Will Cain Country - America AFTER Trump with Patrick Bet-David!

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Story #1: What does America look like and how will we be led after former President Donald Trump? Plus, what would you do today to build the life you want to build tomorrow? On Chris Cuomo and the media company being built by Host of the PBD Podcast and Minority Owner of The New York Yankees, Patrick Bet-David. Story #2: If you see a video of President Biden looking old, you are really looking at 'disinformation.' So, say dishonest actors on the Left. Will has a 'Second Take' of one of the big stories of the week. Story #3: Will's on edge as he's trying to quit nicotine given the Zyn shortage. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, what does America look like? How is America led after Donald Trump? Plus, what would you do today to build the life that you want tomorrow? Chris Cuomo and the media company being built by Patrick Bet. David. Two, do you think that Joe Biden's not all there? Do you think maybe he's slipping? Well, unfortunately, I have news to break to you. You might be the victim if you think this. If you think you might have seen evidence, if you've seen a video, if you have actually seen with your own eyes or heard with your own ears, you actually might be the

victim of cheap fakes. And three, goodbye to Zen. It is the Will Cain Show, streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, on terrestrial radio stations from coast to coast, and always on demand. Wherever you get your audio entertainment, just hit subscribe, Apple or Spotify, and you can catch the Will Cain Show whenever and however you like. You can also subscribe to the Will Cain Show on YouTube. It's a text link right under this live stream, and you can see a little button there. to the Wilcane show, hit subscribe and you can watch the Wilcane show whenever and however you like. I'm on the back end, like the shakes have gone away, the cold sweats have started to subside. My mood is not completely yet, right? But I'm on the back end. I can see the tunnel.

I'm off the bed and I've got the cold rag off my forehead. I, at the same time, apparently as the market and ready to say goodbye to Zen. I don't know if any of my fellow nicotine addicts have noticed, but it's impossible to find Zen, almost impossible to find Zen on the store shelves. And when you find yourself going to the fifth gas station in a row asking if they have Zen and then peddling off some off-brand nicotine pouch, of which you've tried them all and torn up your lip and receive not near the bump that you need, and then you see the news that they're going to stop the sale of Zen online because of the courts? Well, maybe it's just time. Maybe it's just time we say goodbye to Zen. And I've got to tell you, it's been rough,

once again, for my family, for my friends. It's been rough on my mood, but I'm on the back end. I'm 36, 48 hours in, and I'm starting to see light at the end of the tunnel. We'll bring up speed on that plus the second edition of second take revisiting some of the stories we've talked about this week here on the will cane show has further reading for their evidence changed my opinion on anything i shared with you earlier this week we're going to begin to understand the concept of cheap fakes but let us start with story number one patrick bet david is the host of the pbd podcast, a very popular show on almost every digital streaming and live on demand platform. He's also an entrepreneur, a very successful entrepreneur for the past decade in

media. I've talked to Patrick a few times in my life, but this is the first time I believe I've gotten to speak to Patrick on air, so I'm excited to welcome in to the Will Cain show. What's up, Patrick? How you doing? I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad to have you here on the show. You know, I got a lot to talk to you about today.

You, your career, your thoughts. But let me just start with sort of a question I was thinking about this morning at 30,000 feet into the air. And there is just no doubt, Pat, that Donald Trump has changed America. I think we're going to probably have books written about Donald Trump for the better part of a half a century, attempting to understand who he is and better even yet who we are and how we responded to Donald Trump. And that leaves a very obvious and interesting question. what happens after Donald Trump? Not just who leads America, not just who leads conservatism, but kind of what happens to the national psyche

after the better part of the decade of defining itself and its personality as a reaction to Trump. So what happens after Donald Trump? It's such a great question. I mean, you've got to look at it in a couple different way, right? If you think about Rush Limbaugh, everybody wanted to be Rush Limbaugh, who's it going to be? Is it going to be Beck?

Is it going to be, you know, this, guy, is it going to be Clay? Is it going to be? I'm going to be the next Rush Limbaugh, right? Because he had such a big Johnny Carson. Who's the next Johnny Carson? Is it Letterman? Is it Leno? Is it this? Is it that? Are we going to follow their footsteps? You know, Morton Downey Jr. And a bunch of people may not even know the name Morton Downey Jr., but he was at one point beating Oprah Winfrey, beating Montel Williams, beating all these guys. So who's going to be the next thing? When you think about sports, Michael Jordan, sometimes I dream that he is me like Mike. You know, I want to be like Mike. Kobe, I want to be like Mike. All these guys want to be like Mike. There's only been one person

in the history of America that has reached a milestone of being a trifecta. Let me unpack this for you what a trifecta is. Where you make it in business and you become a billionaire, check, where you make it in media and you run a TV show or something that's popular that you're up there as a number one spot for five, 10, 15 years. Hey, you got the apprentice 15 years running, dominating the marketplace. Arnold tried to do it. Miserably failed. Check, those are two things. And then you make it in business. You make it in media. Then you mean to tell me you go become a president? That's what you do. Yes. No one's ever done that in the history of America, period. He is one of one. Love him, hate him. He's one of one. Now, your question of what happens after him, that's a,

there's a lot of dynamics to it, right? It's not just a one-dimensional question you're asking. Let's kind of process that together. If you look at the marketplace today, Mark Cuban just sold the Dallas Mavericks to the Merriam Adelson, I believe, the widow of Sheldon Adelson. And she just bought him out. And, you know, they're a $30 billion net worth type of a family, a lot of wealth there in that family. And at the same time, he gave, I think, she gave $100 million right after the conviction that she's committed to give in to the Trump campaign. That's some stuff that's circulating to the point where Adam Silver had to come in. You follow sports closely.

And Adam Silver had to say, hey, we don't necessarily know if you can be the governor representative. representing the maps. We think it needs to be your, you know, nephew or somebody else, your son. They chose somebody else because of how much aggressive she is of Trump support. And in the NBA, the BLM type of a market and Mark Cuban being somebody that was total of the face of DEI while he's running the widest team in the NBA, according to Guardian for the first 19 years of his ownership, 75% of his team was always white, the widest him in the NBA. He leaves the team and now he's sold the company, sitting on a lot of cash. Is Mark Cuban thinking? about being a trifecta because Trump's his

inspiration? Because he's made it in media. Shark Tank is a phenomenal show. He's made it in sports. He's famous. He's being a billionaire. He's had nice exits. The only thing missing from from Cuban's resume is what? Being a president. Who else is on that list? This guy's not a trifecta, but he's

a beast of a guy, Jamie Diamond. Why is Jamie Diamond talking about he's stepping away from the game? What's he doing? Where's he going to go? Go to another guy. Dwayne Johnson. It's two out of three. He's made in a media higher than any of these guys. He's got 600 million total followers, shy of a billion followers on social media. He's the highest paid actor in the world. Last four out of the eight years, he was a number

one highest paid actor worldwide. In 2021, during COVID, he made $270 million as an actor, Zoha Energy, give or take, billion dollar valuation. Teramana, if we use the same calculation as George Clooney's tequila drink, it's worth $3.3.5 billion. World Wrestling Federation, and chair, all this stuff that he's done, movies. You know, he may want to run for office. He's about to be a billionaires, he's at $800 million net worth, give or take. So I think the 2028 field is going to be a star-studded field. It's going to change.

It's not going to be who knows the most about policies. It's going to be who's the most famous, that's recognizable face, likable, that people have the last thing to check off their resume, even, you know, some of them may be discouraged to do because they saw how the media destroyed Trump's personal life where he's not invited to the parties anymore. So that may scare the crap out of some of these guys. Do I run as a Republican? Do I run as a Democrat? Do I run as an independent? To that part's going to change. Now, the real question becomes it's more important than any of the stuff that we're talking about. And I'm sorry for giving a long-winded answer because you asked a pretty heavy

question is what's going to happen to America? Because yes, there is one side that are aspirational leaders that are running because they're motivated to be their own stuff that they want to get knocked out of the way. Hey, I want to be an NBA champion. Hey, I want to be an NBA also. Hey, I want to win the balloon door, you know, where on the best score, Ronaldo Messi, hey, I want to win the World Cup, you know, Portugal. I want to go. I haven't done that yet. That's great. And we need that. But how about the, you know, finding the next true believers who love America who are coming from a place of wanting to protect and serve and, you know, where it's not about the resume. It's not about the legacy. It's not about the fact that I want to be like this other

person. It's about the fact that no, I'm doing this because this country changed my life and I'm not going to let China, the establishment, Iran, Russia, anybody else on the outside to come and ruin this thing here. I'm going to do my part. I'm not going to let the DOJ in the future scare the hell out of somebody else to run for office because one side of the political party can ruin the other opponents. I'm worried about that. And I think that's the next true believers that we're getting right now. We need more synergies. Every civilization and society and company goes through a few different phases. First, they have the profit, the visionary.

This is the founding fathers. This is Benjamin Rush. This is George Washington. This is Thomas. This is Adams. We're going to build this thing. There's no taxes. Here's what's going to happen.

We cannot believe what they did. We're going to leave. We're going to make this the greatest country. These are profits, right? Steve Jobs, profit. You got founders that are selling the vision. One day we're going to do XYZ. Then founders attract barbarians.

Sometimes the founder is the barbarian, but you bring the barbarians. I'm willing to fight for you. I'm going to go. out and face the enemy. So the barbarians are attracted to a profit. Then the barbarians, next phase, you find builders and explorers where they build stuff, the, you know, Rockefellers, the J.P. Morgan Chase, the Carnegie's. We're going to go build railroads. We're going to go build companies. But then shows administrators and lawmakers. Then it shows up bureaucrats and aristocrats. We are at that phase right in America. The only way we can save this country is the last

phase of people that show up during this phase of bureaucrats and aristocrats. And those are synergists. America is desperately in need of a lot of synergists that can talk to everybody and challenge everybody and stay firm on our values and principles. I'm hopeful that those 16-year-old, 28-year-old, 32-year-olds, the bench of other great Americans are being born today that are going to come up and do something about it. So I know you were expecting a two-minute answer. I think I give you a seven-eight-minute answer here. That's all right, but I am going to follow up with questions, so you're going to have more opportunity to explain. You know, when I hear the word synergy, Pat, I'm going to be real with you, I'm turned off.

It's immediately like a concept that sounds like it's given in a HR course, a mid-level management position at a not very impressive business. I love your description and your analysis of what's happened with America, sort of the turnings of leadership. And there's been people that written about this, you know, the fourth turning, the third turning, the second turning. And we know this also, we've seen various memes, you know, hard men create easy times, easy times, create soft men, soft men create hard times, hard times create hard men again. I think you're right in how you break down America in those phases. And we've seen it, and I know you've seen it, in entrepreneurship. You know, Steve Jobs is different than, you know, Tim Cook.

There are founders and visionaries, and there are men that keep the train running on time. I think you're probably right as well about where we are in America today, that it's largely in the administrative phase, but I don't fully understand your explanation of why we need synergists. Again, a concept I'm skeptical of, synergist to guide us out of this phase. You know, and I'm not calling for revolution. I just did get a new book, Pat, called The Age of Revolutions, and it's from like 1750 to 1850. Like every great nation state went through the age of revolution. And look, our founders said, you know, revolutions are necessary to maintain the course of liberty. I'm not calling for revolution, but I don't know the model that

takes us through all of those turnings you laid out. We're sitting at the administrative state that brings us back to a visionary state based upon the concept of liberty. So, and I appreciate that. Keep in mind, the one thing I did say is a synergist that doesn't compromise the values and principles of America, doesn't compromise. One can have the ability to deliver. You a message without compromising this, but doing it in a way where the other person says, I disagree with you, but I respect the fact that you're firm about that and you're not willing to compromise it. I don't have a choice, but I love the fact that you spoke to me in a respectful manner where

we have the ability to do something about this. Now, watch this. Four weeks ago, my wife and I, you know, we have four kids, 12, 10, 8, our youngest is about to turn three years old in a week, and we are, I'm obsessed right now with a few different things. But the companies I'm running, I'm obsessed with HR because we have to go to a couple thousand employees. HR is the biggest, you know, hurdle. We have to learn a lot more on the HR side. So we invest a lot of money into our HR because we have to recruit faster and we have better jobs at engagement. On the personal side, we've spent the last couple years on a state

planning. And I'm studying everybody, the families that did it right, the families that didn't do it right, the families where the wealth didn't go to the second generation. Vanderbiltz completely screwed it up because the father wasn't really that involved with the kids. So once the money went to the second, third generation, never made it past it. They just spent it. They were lavish. They were not responsible. They were not disciplined. Where you see the Rothschild, the Medici family, they were more intentional where it went to multiple generations. Four weeks ago I'm in Chicago, the Ritz Carlton of Goldman Sachs. It's called the Family Founders Forum where we're in a room with 60 families, a net worth a billion plus to be in that room. We're the poorest ones in

a room, by the way. But we're in that room. We're invited because they're saying, okay, this is what's going to happen with what you guys are doing with all the assets you have, you're going in that direction. Great. And I'm sitting there trying to see the mistakes other families have made. Then we see the Crown family. Keating Crown gets on stage and he says, I'm the oldest G4 in my family. What is an oldest G4? G4 is fourth generation kid. Now, the Keating, the Crown family, they own one of the biggest shareholders of General Dynamics. So they're a $15 billion family that have a lot of money. So he says, I'm the oldest G4. There's 47 of us. Damn. He says, my daughter is 12 years old. She's the oldest G5. There's 150 of them. Wow. So you're sitting there saying, okay, let's just

say you're worth a billion dollars. The family estate is worth a billion dollars. What's a billion dollars when you have 150 G4 grandkids? How much goes to everybody? Then the next family comes up And it's three siblings that are running the company called Let Us Entertain You, the restaurant chain, they own prime. They have like 8,000 employees. It's a big branch, Chicago base. And you've seen these kids talk, and they're telling stories about how they made it work together and responsibility. Who was the driver? Who was the CEO?

Who was the ops? Who's the biz dev? Then the next family comes. And then next family. Everybody's kind of giving their testimony. And then all the owners of the Chicago sports team show up. So you've got the Rinesdorf. He's on stage.

He's speaking relationship with. with his father, the Chicago Cubs son, and one of us asked the question, and the question was, how did you know amongst your siblings that you were the one that was going to run the Cubs? You know what his answer was? It was a beautiful answer. He says, well, it didn't take long because I was the first at the office and I was the last to leave, and my sibling simply didn't want to do that. And they realized I'm the guy that's going to do that. They're like, naturally, yep, you're the CEO, right? It's kind of like, you can hate them all you want, but guess what? I don't want to work that hard. You know, I'm the rich,

that I've been chilling for a while and I've been spoon fed and I kind of don't want to work that hard. I want to go golf five days a week. I want to go kind of do this. I want to sleep and listen, you're filtered out naturally. Where am I going with this? Our goal as a synergist is not to try to convince everybody. You're not going to win.

I don't go into a room when I'm speaking to a crowd trying to win 100% of people over. That's called conformity. You will be miserable. I am trying to speak to people who in the, context of the book, Power vs. Force, there's people above a consciousness level of 200, then there's those below 200. Below 200 is shame, apathy, guilt, pride, arrogance, desire, anger. Those are the levels below 200. And we know which political party has a lot of that, right? Then you have the people above 200, which are courage. You have the courage to have tough

conversations. You are willing to have the conversations. Your ability to be able to be neutral and entertain both ideas and then decide what you think is best for the country, right? And you have the ability to reason. The key word is reason. My job as a leader and whoever decides to become the leader of the free world after President Trump has to be able to deliver the message to the people who have the ability to reason. That is a very small audience. Right now you can look at a lot of different data.

You'll notice the Independence Party is growing, the Independent Party. Some say 49 percent. RFK said 43%. More and more people are leaving the Republican Party and the Independent Party. They're going here, right? They're leaning a little bit more to this side. For a person that knows how to give a message to the reasonable community, because we know elections are won by people in the middle, not the left or the right.

You and the people in the middle, those are the reasonable people that maybe are going to say, you guys make a lot of sense. I don't understand what the Democrats are doing right now. That's who's running the world, running America. I think a synergist who doesn't compromise values and principles, who knows how to speak in a reasonable fashion, has the courage and a willingness to talk to them. And targets the reasonable people, I think we'll be safe. This is not about winning everybody over because that's impossible.

Do you think, Pat, as I get older, I try to be less smart and I try to be more wise. And I think those two things are not the same. And one of the things about wisdom is you're always, and you think you should, check your own self-awareness. And I have this conversation with my co-host on Fox and Friends Week in racial campus. a lot. Just because I believe something doesn't mean it is so. Just because I believe something or the way I see the way something is doesn't mean it's going to win. And what I'm getting at is, you know, you and I don't know each other well, but I can lean upon a couple of things here. One, you and I, and I don't think I'm betraying any confidence. You and I had a phone

conversation. It was about a year ago. And you said to me, I remember you saying, I really like the Will Kane on first take? I liked how fiery you were on first take, you know? And one of the things that told me that day is, oh, well, one, Patrick, David, watches some first take. And I know you're a sports fan. But of course, what first take represents is being in the arena. It's a place where people of disagreement try to make arguments with each other. And based upon some occasions, it's reasonable. Other times, it's very unreasonable. But it is literally in the arena. And then I look at, I'm also going to lean on what you've built, what you're building at value attainment. And, you know, I really like your content. I probably told you that a year ago. I maintain

it today. I think that you're doing something that's really interesting and not well represented in the media spheres where you're trying to bring together on numerous occasions people of disagreement for interesting conversations. What I'm curious about, Patrick, and you've been successful, right? And, you know, you've recently brought in former CNN host and Chris Cuomo. What I'm curious about, about and asking you about wisdom is you're building a company and you like a certain type of thing, which, by the way, for what it's worth, you and I share that similarity. I like the same type of thing. But I'm not 100% convinced that that is the path of success.

Not for you to build an empire, but to bring America together. There are too many models of success where people confirm biases, provide affirmation, affirmation. Don't appeal through reason, but appeal through emotion. And what I'm wondering is, is your appeal for a synergist something that you like or it actually appeals to

America? Well, I mean, you know, you and I can say whatever we want to say, right? Like Angel Reese is like, I'm also the reason why the WMBA is doing very well. Data says otherwise, sweetheart, because the data says the average WMBA attendance at a game

is 7,300. The average game that you play in is 10,000, but the average game that Caitlin Clark goes home or road is 15,600. They're not that interested in you. They're interested in Caitlin Clark, not because of her skin color, because she's an underdog, and America's always loved underdog. Whether your name is Serena Williams, whether your name is Tiger Woods, whether your name is Caitlin Clark, we like underdogs, right? And numbers never lie. A person can hate Joe Rogan all they want. He's number one in 94 countries on Spotify. This last week, Candace owns posted the top three podcasts on Spotify. It was Rogan one, Tucker two, and Candace was three, right? Now, what do those three have in

common? Just the fact that they have their own opinions and they're going to talk that you don't agree with everything, Joe says. You don't agree with everything Tucker says. You don't agree with everything Candace says. But guess what? That's what they're saying. Now, you can sit there and say, I fully disagree with them. Right. That's the conversation. You can go on Pierce Morgan. Your name is Candace. You guys can have a fiery conversation together. And then you and I can dissect the whole thing and say, this is where I disagree with Pierce. This is where I disagree with Candace. That's what the market does. But the numbers tell you the market is interested in that. Pierce Morgan since October 7th, in my opinion, has been the number one guy. Why? Because

he's brought everybody. And you know what happened when he brought Basim Yosef? 30 million plus views, whatever it was. You know what happens when he brings a jank debating another guy and the other side, six million views. You know what happens? He's bringing, the world is telling you they're interested in discourse and debate. So I'm not, I'm not one, I've never had the reputation of losing sleep over wanting to win you over or win people over. I'm a leader amongst leaders. When you identify, at 28 years old, I wanted to find out what was the pinnacle of my life. Was it about being a billionaire? I could care less. Was it about fame? Could care less. Was it about being in Hollywood? Could care less. Finally, I realized that 28 years,

old, the most important thing that I wanted was to be a leader amongst leaders. And that's going to take a lot of work for me to get to that point. And along the way, we're going to make a lot of mistakes. No problem. I'm not one that's afraid of making mistakes. I'm not going to walk around eggshells trying to please everybody else on mainstream media or media period or friends and family because one person's not happy of what we're doing. Here's the reality of it. Do you know who watched a conversation between Dave Smith and Chris Coma? Probably Anthony Fauci. Do you know who probably hated that podcast that we had between the two for three hours probably big pharma you know probably hated that conversation that we had that got tens of millions of views all over if you include

twitter x instagram probably a couple hundred million views all the people from the establishment hated that podcast so we were able to bring people from the establishment to watch that because chris many would say represents the establishment side he may not even like the fact that i'm I'm saying this, and he and I can get into an argument saying, I can't believe you said that on Will Kane. No problem. I'm very comfortable having arguments and debates. I'm simply trying to bring the eyeballs. I have my own positions.

People know where I stand politically. You know where I stand family wise. You know where I stand. The other day, I put a tweet about, you know, why is it that we have 143 days a year dedicated to the LGBTQ community, and we have one day dedicated to Father's Day and Mother's Day. Well, first of all, gays don't procreate. Neither do lesbians. Why is our national, you know, birth rate the lowest it's ever been at 1.6? Because we're endorsing these types of things.

And given the entire month of Pride Month dedicated to that, we're not increasing our birth rates. Oh, no wonder Chuck Schumer's getting on stage saying, well, you know, we know the birth rate problem. We have in America. This is why we need immigrants to come to America because we're not having any kids anymore. Chuck, why do you think we're not having any more kids anymore? How much are we edifying husband and wives and, you know, families who want to have kids and raise their families? What happened to the Lyndon Johnson case and ideas that he proposed in 1964, where we went from 4% of kids in America in 1964, being born to single mothers, to today it's 40%. You think these policies have bad consequences?

Why don't we have those types of conversation? My idea is, I want to get back to two kids, child rate. I'm going to go to 2.5. And to do that, we've got to go to certain other values. But we're definitely not going to shy away from signing certain. I'm going to sign people that people are going to say, man, could move by. PBD, I will definitely watch him, and I'm on a sign paper. I like the move.

But regardless, viewership has increased. May was our biggest viewership month in the history of the Valuetainment brand. We've never had this many viewership in the month of May. I like the move of signing Chris Cuomo. I appreciate what you have to say about the numbers, what Pierce Morgan is building. I agree with you. And that's why I always check it. That's why I want to say, if I agree with something, if it's something that I believe,

I just want to ask myself, is America ready for it? But I think you're right. The numbers do reflect. people need, because they're surrounded in a world of propaganda and manipulation right now, they need the sense they're getting something authentic. I'll tell you what, I want to dig into a little bit of that choice you made when you were 28 and kind of answer the question for some people, who the hell is Patrick Bet, David? And then get back into Mark Cuban, Dwayne Johnson, and Jamie Diamond.

What comes after Donald Trubbles? Take a quick break, and then we'll come back with more with Patrick Bet David on The Will Kane Show. You know, if you look at any poll, as we approach this 2024 presidential election, if you look at the list of concerns for Americans, number one is almost invariably inflation. And it's really no wonder why. I mean, in the last 18 months alone, the cost of groceries and basic necessities for a family of four has gone up $11,000 a year, as would be the case when you. print money like a drunken sailor, as is in any basic economic understanding, supply and demand.

You increase the supply of something, you reduce the value of something, and we've increased the supply of money to the extent that your dollar has lost 24% of his purchasing power. This is all backed upon the fact that we rack up government debt and print money, government death the tune of a trillion dollars every hundred days. So what can you do as this decreases the power of your own purchasing power, decreases your own family's ability to survive? Well, you can do what people have done really, honestly, for centuries, and that's invest in hard metals, invest in the longest store of value, invest in gold. And I've done that. And what better way to do that than the way that I've done that through our friends at Lear Capital?

Lear Capital will help you through the process. What you have to do is call them. It's 800, 920-8388, or go to... Learwill.com, L-E-A-R-W-I-L-L.com. They'll help you convert your 401k or your IRA. They'll help you step into the longest door of value in human history. Gold. Dwayne the Rock Johnson, Mark Cuban, Jamie Diamond, maybe Patrick Bet, David.

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For those that are wondering, Pat, who the hell is Patrick Bet, David? Born and raised in Iran, right before the revolution, October 18, 1978, to a communist mother and an imperialist father. Lived in Iran for almost 11 years when Khomeini died June 2nd or 3rd of 89. Six weeks later, we escaped to Germany, lived at a refugee camp in Germany for a year and a half, came to the States, November 28, 1990. Glendale, California, went to the Army, went to 1001st Airborne Division Air Assault. I got out of the military. I wanted to be the next Arnold, Mr. Olympia, Mary Kennedy, going to Hollywood, you know, eventually run for governor. And then I married a Hudman.

I went into the financial services. I left bodybuilding, and I realized Hollywood isn't for me. And in financial services, I start off with Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, and then eventually went to Transamerica World Financial. October 1 I started my own insurance company, grew it from 66 agents to, 50,000 agents eventually sold it, had a nice multi-multe, multi-nine figure exit. And then in the meantime, started a media business on the side that turned into a consulting firm, Bed David Consulting, which you can go to bedavid.com to learn about what we're doing. That led to our event this September.

We're going to have an event called the VAL Conference. 10,000 people at Palm Beach Convention Center. Dwayne Johnson will be there as well at the event. For three and a half days, we're talking business, things like that. And then launched a few apps, have grown the business, married four kids, somebody who loves America and somebody who believes future looks bright, but at the same time got another side of me that's overly paranoid about the future as well. So multi-nine-figure exit, and this is from the, I believe, life insurance business, right?

Yes. Life insurance sales across the country. You were talking about estate planning a moment ago, so I'm assuming, you know, I'll never know, unless you want to add it up for me between taxes of some sort. I don't know, you know, what the exit entailed. with another, you were 100% owner, but we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. Why then, hey, about a decade ago, I want to do media. Yeah, so a pastor of mine, Pastor Dudley Rutherford, I used to go to this church called Shepard

Hills. We love the church. It's in Porter Ranch. I believe it's the best church in America. Last week, I was in L.A. going to Universal Studios. He came. We went and hung out to get out of Universal with the kids. We're going on Jurassic Park Ride, all this stuff. He one day gave a message saying the seven mountains to climb. And he's going through church, family, business, military, Hollywood, and all these things he's breaking down. And he said the most influential one and the toughest one to climb his media. And he said this to me, I think in 0809, 2010-ish is what I'm giving a timeline. And then I started thinking about, I'm like, you know what?

If you think about movies and storytelling, you know, there's a lot of influence with how we look at people based on movies. Rocky Four had a big impact of my life, right? When you think about movies, John Q. with Denzel Washington, what happened to his done, right? The fact that he didn't have the money to buy a heart replacement for him or some of these movies we go through, you know, you're watching a lot of powerful stuff here for movies. So eventually when I started studying the marketplace and seeing who's competing in the marketplace, I sized everybody up just the same way I did insurance. And I saw opportunities and leaks in certain areas that people were not competing in. And then I tested out my content

to see if the market's even interested in the way I talk and the way I communicate in my values and principles. I said, I'm going to give it two years. If the market's not, interested. I'm done. I'll take a different route in media. And then slowly but surely there was interest. And then that grew and I said, wait a minute, there's maybe more interest in this. I've never wanted to publicly talk too much about politics. I said, let me take the risk and do that. I separated the channel from Valuetainment of PPD podcast on PBD podcast. I talk more about podcasts, more about politics and current events. And then eventually it turned into what it is today. Now we're going to be buying a campus, 11 acres, God willing, and doing the whole nine. You'll be

seen us in the next three, five, 10 years doing movies, docs, a lot of different things. We're just getting warmed up, but I think America is primed right now for new media companies to compete, and the market's going to filter them out very quickly. You're going to know who was motivated by money. You're going to realize who is completely on one side, that they can't entertain other types of conversations, no problem, who was motivated by fame, and then you're also going to know in the next 10 years who was motivated by a real crusade or real cause about wanting to correct and injustice. And that's going to take about a decade to filter that out. I think will be

very formidable in the next 10 years. So you care a lot, as you've mentioned in our conversation today, Pat, about leadership. You know, leadership is a fascinating thing because I think is not tethered to ideology. It's not necessarily, there's no monopoly, you know. There's powerful leaders from the left. There's powerful leaders from the right. There's actually no monopoly on you know, virtuous leaders versus those leaders who have malevolent intentions. They're very successful, bad leaders.

You know what I mean? What I'm getting at is, you and I talked about what comes after Trump. I want to revisit this for one moment because you actually took the answer in a direction that I wasn't thinking. We'll come back to the way I was thinking in a moment. But Cuban, Diamond, Dwayne Johnson,

what do you see in them beyond celebrity that represents some quality of leadership? I think Jamie Diamond's running the number one bank in the world. And he has sat down with every major name in the world to know he's a phone call away from anybody. And he's overcome a lot of challenges as well. As a leader, he comes as a former guy who was assistant to Sandy Weil at American Express. He started off as his executive assistant.

And eventually Sandy fired him because of what, you know, Jamie Diamond made the decision, I think, to either not promote or fire Sandy's daughter and Sandy's wife was not happy about it. You can read the House of Diamond and kind of study it to see what happened there. And he comes to Chase and look where he takes it. You've got to give the guy a lot of credibility. And at the same time, you know he's not a Trump guy,

but while he's at World Economic Forum, he's sitting there and disagreeing with people on the left to say, what are you doing sitting here saying bad things about Trump? He actually did very good things for the economy. So he has the brass to have those types of conversations. You don't have to like him. You don't have to love him. but he's a guy that's a leader who has a lot of poise

and he carry himself very, very well. I like that part of Jamie. I think Bob Iger was interested in that. I think Bob's had a terrible last three years or else he would have been the top ten list as well of somebody that I think was aspirational by wanting to run for president. I think that may be out the window

because he had a right of a lifetime until he came back and it's not been a right of a lifetime for Bob Iger. Dwayne Johnson, super likable. I think he loves America. I think the interview he did with you when you were able to ask him a question about his position he took with Joe Biden and would be he doing the same thing. He says at that time, I'm paraphrasing, but at that time I thought that was the right move to make, but I will not be doing the same thing I did then. That was an interview you did with him. I think it was a stadium behind us.

I don't know if that was XFL or where you were at, but you were in a stadium while you're doing the interview. WrestleMania. WrestleMania. He's a guy that's, you know, liked by left and the right. And I just don't know if he's willing to go to the phases of being hated because it's going to happen with certain people when you take certain hard stances politically. But every time you see the guy, he's pro-military, pro-flag.

He was at the RNC in 2001, on-stage speaking. Most people forget about that. You can go type in Duane Johnson, RNC, O'1, you'll see him on stage. And he's like a Michael figure. Michael Jordan had customers from the left and the right, and he knew how to kind of balance that out. I think that's the part with him. And in Mark Cuban, I just think he thinks he's better than Trump.

And I think he has got a little bit of a jealousy and envy and competitive side, whichever one of those three may be, that's driving him to want to overcome that. And I don't know if he's going to end up doing it or not. And the only reason he doesn't do it, maybe he's distancing himself from selling the ownership because he wants to not have any of the repercussions going to the math side. But I wouldn't be surprised if he puts his name in the competition in 27, 28. He thinks he can compete with anyone. and I think he would be a formidable Democratic candidate for 2028 presidential nominee.

So my thoughts on those three individuals quickly is this is like what you said when we first started a conversation. Trump is one of one. And so it's hard to build a model. And you did it really well. You talked about, look, what comes after Jordan, what comes after any number of seminal figures? And the answer is not someone who resembles the original figure. You know, LeBron comes after Jordan. And LeBron is nothing like Jordan in terms of play style, body style, mentality.

So you just don't look for a carbon copy. You don't look for a clone. Whatever comes next will be a surprise. Jamie Diamond, in my estimation, extremely competent and somewhat unpredictable. But I think that the next leader of America has to be able to connect with the common man. Not exclusively, not a pure populist, but at least have some ability to seem to connect to the common man. I question that with Jamie Diamond. I really like Dwayne.

I've gotten to know Dwayne. I think he's a really, really good dude with the best of intentions. I don't know, to your point, of whether or not he has the thick enough skin to deal with half of the country hating you. That's just going to be what happens in politics. They will. And in Cuban, I just don't think Cuban has the charm to pull people over. And I don't even know what to make of him anymore. There was a time, Pat, when he was like, yeah, I like Ian Rand, and he was unpredictable, and he had interesting thoughts.

And now he's indistinguishable from a in this house, love is love, and, you know, the cliched sign sitting in the front of every far left household. And that's Mark Cuban. He's like a human embodiment of that yard sign. And so I don't know anymore that Mark Cuban satisfies any of the things beyond celebrity and ambition to get to be president. By the way, you were born in Iran. You did serve in the U.S. military. Leadership is what you're all about. Where are you taking this leadership?

Like, what do you want? Oh, I can't run for president because I'm not born here. If that was, if I was born here, I would certainly consider that because from a place of, I think I would make certain policies and lead the world in a way that would be valuable. It would be a different style, but it would be my way because I, you know, I have confidence in my way of delivering. But that's out of question. So I'm not somebody that's going to play that role. But I'm going to be involved in a lot of conversations behind closed doors. speaking to different people and my own thoughts and strategies that I have a mind doesn't mean that

I'm right. It doesn't mean that I'm, you know, 100% accurate. It doesn't mean, but, you know, when you're sitting down and you're thinking about a position like this, there's a few different things we can think about. You know, a lot of times we think, man, I don't have all the information. What am I going to do if I sit against another guy that's a historian? Like, when you listen to Mark Levine, oh my God, that guy's like read every one of these books. I can never be like Mark Lewis. Right. Oh, my God. When you listen to Thomas Sol or you listen to Dennis Prager, You listen, these guys are ridiculous. Why didn't Prey Graver run?

Imagine what he would have done. So you think that's one element, right? Which is very important. That's one part. Then you think the other part, which is, you know, the charm component, the people skills, being able to sell the dream, being able to sell the vision, being able to sell what we're going, being able to sell the history of what makes us special and doing that part. And then the other part is, you know, the painting the picture of the fear of what if we don't do something to get people to take a lot of action?

Trump knows how to do that. Obama knew how to do that. Clinton knew how to do that. Reagan know how to do that. You know, John F. Kennedy, know how to certain people know how to do that. And policies comes with experience in your personal life where you're sitting around seeing what's going on with policies. This didn't work. That was a bad idea. I remember one time, very interesting story for you. I have an office in Addison, Texas, right? I know you're a Texas guy. And my office is in Addison, Texas, down the street from the airport.

And my office, probably out of 100 employees at the time, I would say, 70% were African-American. Let's just say 60 to 70% are African-American, employees' home office. And probably most of them were not fans of Trump. And it's 2016, and he's talking about lowering the capital gains taxes and all this stuff. And boom, he wins. And I bring everybody into my office, and I'm talking to all the employees. I said, so, guys, how do you feel about this? Yeah, you know, blah, blah, blah. I said, well, listen, did you guys hear about what he's doing with capital gains? What's capital gains? You know, when you're an employee, you're not studying capital gains because it doesn't directly impact. He said, well, he is going to allow us to give

the money more to us to invest it in the way we want to run the company than giving the money to taxes, which is allowing the government to do better with the company. All he's saying is he thinks you and I can do better with the money than the government can. Or I never thought about it that way before. So because of that, here's what we're doing. What's that? For every month you've been with the company here, we're giving you $100 every month. It's a bonus. You didn't do anything different. Just because the capital gains taxes was decreased. People in the room are crying, will. I mean, the people who were in the room,

they will remember this. They're remote. Oh, my God. This is so amazed. Patrick. Thank. Does this really mean? I've only P.L. Yes. Seriously, yes. Oh, my God. You know, this is awesome. We love you. I said, I don't know why you love me. I didn't do it. Trump wrote capital gains taxes. I said, the only way I'm willing to do this is if you're willing to to tweet and say thank you to Donald Trump. No, no, no, I'm not doing. I said, you don't need to do that. The point is, that's the concept of delivering a message in a way where the average person

sits there and says, you know what, I never thought about it that way before. I think some of the candidates that we have, honestly, they look at the screen when they're talking to a guy like you, and they think their audience is only senators and congressmen. They sit there and talk to a guy like you, and I don't want to give names. I've been in some of these rooms, and they're only talking to policy people. They don't realize 99% of the audience that's watching is the average day-to-day person that's worried about their family, finances. So we have to, you know, simplify the way we're explaining a lot of things that we're coming up with. And I think we need a candidate that's going to play that role.

But for me, I'm going to be playing my role to make sure America stays as the greatest country in the world. I'm going to play in a different way. I think when you think about Avengers, everybody has a different superpower. Mine is very different than being involved in politics and president, governor, any of that stuff. Well, you've been very successful, so it'd be a disservice if I didn't provide my audience the opportunity to hear from you on this one thing. We have an economy that right now feels like it's teetering. I know the stock market's doing fine, but inflation's not yet under control. Interest rates don't show sign yet of coming down. That means at some point, who knows,

hard landing recession. It's already sitting on top of an economy where young people can't really buy homes. But everybody has those ambitions. Everybody wants to, everybody, you know, I hate to ask the question like, you know, what advice would you give to someone trying to get rich? Because, again, back to that wisdom thing, like richness is, is, richness is not exclusively defined by wealth. Now, wealth is a big part of it, and people want to build their own wealth because what wealth affords is freedom and purpose and ability to apply oneself in the appropriate direction.

But what, how about that? I'll ask it that way. What would be your one piece of advice to people looking to build wealth? Well, let's kind of go through that. Whenever I sit down and I talk to somebody, let's just say someone says, hey, Pat, I want you to talk my 22-year-old son.

He has big plans of wanting to do something. Can you give him some counsel? Or I'll get somebody that's maybe 42 years old who's had a decent career, but they kind of want to make real money and they just got fired. They're like, what do I do next? I don't want to put myself in this situation again.

And I got a couple hundred thousand dollars, but I'm not wealthy. I'm just barely making, you know, and I'm trying to take care of my family, my three kids. First thing you do is you make a list of your gifts and the talents that God's given you. I love math, and I love people.

Very simple. So I'm very curious with people and their stories, and I love numbers. I just think those are two things that are my passion. So financial industry was a very natural process of me getting into that because of those two things I have. Now, you know, my son loves politics and movies. My youngest son loves sports and competition and numbers. my oldest daughter loves bakery and she's sweet customer service brings people together and my youngest daughter is super animated right sometimes we just have to sit down and kind

of make a list of what things like when I was first starting my channel I said babe what do I talk about a lot I don't know what I what channel should be around she said babe and I talked to five people that I trust the most with my wife being there she said babe you always talk my capitalism you always talk about my business you're always talking about entrepreneurship I'm like you know what then that's what we're doing we're going to be talking about those types of things. So what's your gifts? That's one. Two, a guy the other day asked me a question on the app, Menect. Menect is where, you know, you can ask people question and you pay for it and you get to respond back. So you can call the email somebody,

call the email, DM somebody on Instagram, no one's going to get back to you, but on Menect, do you have a minute to connect, let's connect. On Menect, the guy pays me to respond back in a audio format or text or video. And he says, Pat, I have X, Y's amount of money I'm making per year. I'm married. I got two kids, but I've lost my fire. I read your book, Your Next Five Moves. I read your book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, but I've lost my fire. What do I do? Let's talk about that. Whenever you've lost fire, and sometimes you can waste a year, two years, three years, five years, ten years, to find that fire? All you have to do is go run with a fired up founder. For example, do you think if you work with Elon Musk naturally you're going to be fired up?

Of course, because he's fired up, right? Do you think if you go play with a player on a team that's absolutely a driver, that level of standards and expectations is going to pass down to you? Yes, of course, right? So, you know, I initially, when I came into business and I wanted to make some money and create some wealth, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I didn't have a vision. I'm like, oh, one day we're going to save America by bringing back the free enterprise system

and hope to America. I had nothing like that. So I went and interviewed people that I wanted to work for. And I said, I would literally ask people, who do you know that's the guy that he thinks the most ambitious person that's going to do big things? Oh, it's this person. Really? Can you introduce them to me? So I was recruiting my boss, such a very different concept.

I'm like, who should I work for? Who should I go with? And then I would go and interview with these guys. And, you know, one of the guys, Jamie Hep, that I just, you know, he's writing a book coming out. And I interview with him at 22 years old. I'm like, dude, this guy's going to do something. And I'm like, then this other guy. And I'm like, I want to work for this guy.

So I was able to shadow others that were way ahead of me for me to learn what they did. And that kind of saved me 10 years of what I would have done on my own. But I did that in 6 to 12 months. So I think that would be the feedback I would give at the high. And then last but not least I'll tell you this, no skill set in America until today pays more than you're learning how to sell. I know a lot of people don't like to hear this. Obama is a salesperson. Trump is a salesperson.

Steve Jobs is a salesperson. The other day, Elon Musk gets on stage and says the robot. business is going to be a billion robots. He says 10 billion robots is what we're going to build. He says, and I believe Tesla is going to build 10%, maybe 20, 30% of those robots. What's he doing? He is getting the level of optimism and the stock of Tesla to be like, oh, my God, what's going to Tesla look like in a future?

He launched a salesperson, and then he delivers. So I think a very, very high paid skill set for a lot of people to have his sales. I don't think enough people go learn how to learn sell. You can actually learn it. The market is going to pay very well if you're how to sell. My favorite thing you said there, Pat, is recruit your boss. And I've heard that on more than one occasion from successful people. And I like how you said, it can save you 10 years.

Because you recruit the right boss, he can put you in the right position to succeed, plus all the intangibles of what you will learn from them. I made that mistake, Pat. I always wanted to be, you know, how the kids talk about Sigma. I wanted to be the lone wolf. I wanted to be the pioneer before I ever worked for a big corporation, which I've done for entirely too long. but I want to do it on my own because I thought there'd be more virtue or I thought there'd be more virtue in that you know I didn't want to trade on networking I always thought it was a dirty word it's not you got to recruit your own boss it's really good stuff um Patrick bet David awesome conversation we could go for three we could do this five times I hope we do it again man on your show or mine I always enjoy talking to you Patrick bet David of the PBD podcast and value taming thank you so much pat thanks for having me on appreciate you all right there you goes

Patrick Beck, David, check them out. Okay, he's on every social media, TikTok, Instagram, X, YouTube, very successful. Independent media on all of those platforms and a place where they're having the conversation, as I said, in the arena. All right, second take. Turns out you might have seen some videos of Joe Biden not doing so well, being led around on stage. Maybe you shouldn't believe your lion ears, your lying eyes. Maybe you have been the victim of a cheap fake next on the Will Cain Show. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy podcast.

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or whether or not it's Joe Biden being led around on stage by former president Barack Obama. If you think this means that he's somehow not playing with a full deck, well, you're the victim of a cheap fake. It's the Will Kane show, streaming live at Fox News.com. News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, always on demand. Hit subscribe on YouTube right now or hit subscribe on Apple or Spotify, and you can always hang out with this. So says Corrine Jean-Pierre, White House Press Secretary. She says deep fakes and cheap fakes have convinced people not to believe that Joe Biden is a vigorous, healthy, energetic, sharp, 81-year-old President of the United States. Here is Corrine John Pierre.

Ironically, several recent sheet fakes actually attack the president for thanking troops, for thanking troops, that is what they're attacking the president for, both in Normandy this happened and again in Italy. And I think that it tells you everything that we need to know about how desperate, how desperate Republicans are here. And instead of talking about the president's performance in office, and what I mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been able to do for the president. the American people across the country, we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos,

and it is, again, done in bad faith. Deep fakes, cheap fakes, manipulated videos done in bad faith, desperate to manipulate your mind. Let's just analyze each of those words. Manipulate you. desperate, trying to convince you of a lack of a fake reality in lieu of the reality that he was there to thank troops. And by the way, they were criticizing him for thanking the troops, for thanking the troops, says Corrine Jean-Pierre.

Well, every bit of that was fake. Every bit of that was a fake. Every bit of that was manipulation. Every bit of that was desperate. Nobody criticized Joe Biden for thanking the troops. It doesn't matter if Crean-John-Pier says it. twice. Nobody, nobody criticized Joe Biden for thanking the troops. They criticized Joe Biden for wandering around. It wasn't zoomed in. It wasn't cut out of context. Oh, yeah, there was another paratrooper

or parachutist that landed somewhere different than when the rest of the world leaders were looking, and Joe Biden wanders over to a second one. That is true. But do you know why the Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney went over and tapped him on the elbow and asked him to come back? Because they had been given instructions, according to Emmanuel Macron, the Prime Minister of France. They've been given instructions to all stand together and interact with only the one parachutist.

But Joe Biden can't follow instructions so Georgia Maloney has to bring him into line. That's the context. You want to zoom out? That's the reality. And it was also echoed on stage with Barack Obama. When he didn't know how to leave, Barack Obama grabs him by the hand and leads him off stage.

We can all see it. But that too dismissed as a chief. fake fake, a cheap fake, cutting something out of context, zooming in, not allowing you to see reality. Now, let me give you an example, a perfect example of a cheap fake. Ironically, a YouTuber named Brian Tyler Cohen, who has a show called No Lie, gave us a perfect example of a lie. He tweeted the following with this picture.

He said, here's a photo of Trump having to hold something. someone's hand to guide him off stage. I'm sure this will get as much coverage as the daily Biden-old story. And here's the picture that no lie with Brian Tyler Cohen gives to the public. An absolute lie. It is President Trump seemingly holding hands with Donald Trump Jr. guiding him off the stage. Is that real? Or is that a cheap fake? Is that a lie? Here's the video. There's Donald Trump clapping, waving at the crowd. Donald Trump Jr. below him on the stage. A quick grab of the hand, like a high five.

Two hands touching together for about one, one thousand, one second. Is he being led off the stage? Is it a lie? Or is Brian Tyler Cohen, the host of no lie? A perpetrator of cheap fakes, of deep fakes, of manipulation. of desperation to convince us it's not Joe Biden who's old it's Donald Trump who needs help

or is Brian Tyler Cohen in fact a liar by the way all of these have been echoed from Queen Jean-Pierre on to CBS and NBC

and ABC and every other mainstream outlet they're now running and you'll see the buzzwords take off with cheap fake it'll be like June 10th

in a year. Today is June 19th, June teeth, which when I was growing up was a barely known local holiday that all of a sudden is a national holiday. I mean, if you look up Google Trends or Joe Biden tweets about June 19th, they're non-existent before 2019. Of course, with our racial reckoning of national freakout, it becomes a national holiday. It doesn't seem tied to the best of intentions. doesn't seem tied to the

abolishment of slavery. It seems tied to some other lack of unity in the United States of America where we need separate anthems and separate holidays. Yes, of course, we celebrate the abolishment of slavery. But no one ever heard of Juneteenth. And my estimation is if you pulled 10 Americans, 10 African Americans,

could you get two to truly tell you what is Juneteenth? I would love to see that sample size. but just like Juneteenth exploded out of nowhere, you're about to be inundated with cheap fake. On second take, they are once again guilty of what they accuse their opponents. They are guilty of manipulation, of desperation, of cheap fakes, of deep fakes, of lies. It's time to say goodbye to Zen next on the Will Cain Show.

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had a long conversation day with Patrick Bet David of the PBD podcast and Value Tainment. Some of your comments, Jimmy May says, PBD 2028. Unfortunately, Jimmy, Patrick Bet David is born in Iran. As he laid up for us, he can't be running for president in the United States of America. Chief Walk-On says, Mark Cuban would be a huge upgrade to the rest of the demon craps. I think he's referring to Democrats there. I would not be one. that would be supportive of Mark Cuban.

I don't think he's distinguishable at all. I can't think of many ways at all, that he is somehow an iconoclass to the mainstream flow of the Democratic Party. As I said, he's becoming distinguishable from in this House yard sign. Jimmy May also says PBD speaks common sense, a foreign language to many on the left.

I thought he was really good. I thought that Patrick Pet David was really good. Enjoyed having him today on the Will Cain Show. Take a look at this headline. Zin, you can't be found in the United States. Salt, site halts nicotine pouches sales amid probe. What that is is direct sales at Swedish match of Zinn products, the nicotine pouches, which grabbed me in the chokehold of addiction, can't now be bought online.

You know, Chuck Schumer, Senate Majority Leader, various investigations have gone into Zinn, and they basically shut it down, which is the oddest thing. I don't know that that's why I can't find Zan, but you cannot find Zan, at least in Texas. Supply chain disruptions. I don't know what it is. Increased demand. But you can find every other type of nicotine pouch. It's just showing the irrationality of these types of investigations and cars.

It's just gone after the most popular one, Zinn. And by the way, the others don't hold a candle. I'm sorry, I've tried them all. Rogue, On, Zone, Velo. They're all. No, I can't do it. In fact, I can't do it to the extent that I'm done. I'm done.

Two days, young establishment James. Everybody sent me this, by the way. All my friends have sent me this supply chain. It's not going to be a problem for me. It's the perfect confluence of events. Because I'm done again. This will be my second time, quitting. Do you know somebody told me that nicotine is more addictive than heroin?

Somebody recent told me that. And because somebody said it, it must be true. I think we should get a doctor on to confirm that because that seems a little ridiculous. When I quit nicotine So someone said People are saying It took a I used to be a pot and a half a day of jewel Which is the equivalent to a pack and a half

And to quit I had to do Nicotine gum And not drink for the entire eight weeks Wow They go hand in hand It was hard I didn't know you were such a jeweler Young James

By the way Will So your ending Zinn You got me I'm not saying you got me Addicted to Zinn But I've been using it since we've been talking about it, which is not bad. It's okay.

You need to stop. I know. It's a tough cookie to crack. I mean, I really like it. Yeah. But here's the deal. Can I just tell you, here's the negatives when you're on it. I feel my energy yo-yo all day long.

And I don't know. A lot of guys that also do it don't tell me they feel the same thing, but I do. I'm on an energy roller coaster. And I want, it's partially, I'm going to bet my age versus yours. You know, guys my age already, they talk about your energy has, you know, it waxes in Waynes and, you know, and all I want is to feel energetic all day long. I just don't want to feel tired all the time. And I already am dealing with like, I'm getting indated with freaking texts right now. Will I do Fox and Friends first tomorrow? I'm like, am I ever going

to sleep? When do I get to sleep? When I get a regular night's sleep? It's a lot. So I'm too old for this. And so my energy is already doing that. And so I don't need something. You know, and you tell yourself, oh, I'm tired. Bump of nicotine. Now, because then the roller coaster comes back down and you got to do it again now you're on the ride all day long but here's here's also why not to do this so i'd say i quit on sunday so what is today today is wednesday um yeah i told you guys this once before i have been grouchy i've been real grouchy no and at first i was like why is the at first i was like why is the world coming to an end why is everything negative and then I realized, oh, maybe you're, maybe you're withdrawing from nicotine.

Yeah, dude. Maybe that's what's going on. Yeah, dude. Yeah. That's a real thing. It's not pretty. Yeah. Crankiness is a side effect of not using nicotine.

Yeah. Turns out that's true. Yeah. Wow. Wow. By the way, I tried. And I gave it a good. I went and I bought every, you can't get Zen in Texas.

Like, I would say you got a. a one in six chance when you go to a gas station. You know what I mean? That they're going to have it. So you start trying, and I tried them all. Man, they tore my lip up. They don't feel the same. So they're going to get this industry.

They're going to get it by getting Zen. And I don't think they should. I just think you shouldn't start it. And I should quit it. Go back from a long cut. I'm done. Well, my thing now is it's golf season now, and golf season is where I really love to do.

that. So I'm going to have to really stop myself when I'm on the golf course. Just tough. What are you doing? What flavor. What's that you've been doing this? What's that? What flavor? Oh, just the regular. Smooth? Yeah. No flavor? No flavor. Really? I don't like flavor stuff. I try to

vape one time and they had like the cherry ice and all that stuff. I don't like any of that stuff. It's just ridiculous. So just the flat, you know, I used to do skull pouches. That's serial killer movie. there. I mean, dude just chooses smooth. Yeah, I drink black coffee. No, no frills.

Well, I wish you luck. Quit. Wish me luck for another day or two. I think I'm starting to see a light in the tunnel. I'm starting to feel a little bit better about things. But I quit Zen and apparently so has America is going to be forced to quit Zen. All right. That's going to make us quit today's Will Kane Show. Hit subscribe, Apple, Spotify, YouTube. We'll see you again next time. Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad free on the Amazon music app. From the Fox News Podcasts Network.

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