Will Cain Country - AOC and Hochul Go All In for Mamdani at Wild NYC Rally w/ Michael Malice

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Story 1: Like it or not, Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani continues to garner massive support from New Yorkers, but what does he offer that other Democrats don’t? Will compares Mamdani with other members of his party and points out what everyone else is too afraid to admit. Story 2: Host of "YOUR WELCOME" Michael Malice joins to unpack how Mamdani’s rise parallels that of politicians like Barack Obama and Margaret Thatcher and the ripples NYC’s election has already sent throughout the Democrat party. Story 3: Will and The Crew observe the Left’s reaction to President Donald Trump’s East Wing construction project, before sharing the slew of issues with the recent Netflix “thriller” 'House of Dynamite.’ 'In ‘Final Takes,’ Will and the Crew react to Brian Kelly being fired from LSU after his third loss of the season, and Barstool's Brandon Walker stepping onto the field just in time to watch his team blow a massive lead.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠@willcainshow⁠), Instagram (⁠@willcainshow⁠), TikTok (⁠@willcainshow⁠), and Facebook (⁠@willcainnews⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Two, Governor J.V. Pritzker of Illinois says, Don't you dare, don't you dare use the term illegal alien. With the host of your welcome, Michael Malice. Three, the east wing of the White House is down. Up are the spirits of the left. They have something. this time to fight for the east wing final takes it is will cane country on this monday brand new week

brand new time to spin together a whole new week let's get after it you and me the Willisha, tinfoil Pat, two at A's Dan, Ed, Herman, Wilcane Country, let's get to it with story. Number one. Queens, New York, stadium capacity 13, 14,000, Forest Hills Stadium Stadium used for concerts, this time, filled with supporters of Zohram Mamdani, the leading candidate for mayor of New York City. Mom Donnie has now received the endorsement of Governor Kathy Hokel. As she took the stage, the crowd implored her. This is what we want. Tax the rich.

We need more child care. And it has to be universal. Child care for everyone who wants it. So here's what we're going to do. Tax the rich. Tax the rich. Tax the rich. Zoroamundani now backed by a traditional Democrat in Governor Kathy Hokel already has the endorsement of Senator Bernie Sanders. The support of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who positively sounded like. Howard Dean.

This city was built by the Irish escaping famine. Italians fleeing fascism, Jews escaping Holocaust, black Americans fleeing slavery and Jim Crow, Latinos, seeking a better life, native people standing for themselves, Asian Americans coming together in Queens, in Brooklyn, in Bronx, in Manhattan, in South Island. in this country, in a vision to build the freest, toughest, and greatest city on earth. Raw!

I'll tell you for granted that you remember Howard Dean, the leading candidate for president for Democrats, and a Democratic primary screamed, raw! At the end of a high-pitched speech, not unlike what you just heard from AOC, and in a much quaintor time in America, that roar killed the campaign for Howard Dean. There was a time when Michael Dukakis looking like a midget on top of a tank wearing a helmet was mocked and laughed outside of a presidential race and a time when you could roar and people would laugh and that would be the end anymore.

It's wonder what is it that actually ends a campaign? What is it? What kind of publicity? What kind of negativity is enough to actually end a race? for mayor, for governor, for president. AOC is a socialist. Bernie Sanders is a socialist. Zoramam Dhani is a socialist.

This is the brand now. This is what it means to be a Democrat. We now have a party of open, honest, branded socialism. That party is the Democrat Party. No, it's not, Will. There's still moderate Democrats. There's Andrew Cuomo. There's Abigail Spanberger.

Let me ask you a question. Not just where is their constituency. Not just where is the energy. But where is the platform? If you are a modern-day moderate Democrat, what do you stand for? When you stand in front of a crowd to the extent that you can gather, a crowd. What is it that you promise? What is it that you positively put forward? Because all that it seems is left, of the left, is anti-Trumpism. There's no unifying message other than

hatred of Donald Trump. There's nothing that you can stand on the stage for. If you're a Kamala Harris, you're a Joe Biden, other than you are the opposite of Donald Trump. And that impulse has led you into an unrecognizable party with no positive platform. Donald Trump's pro TikTok, you're anti-Tik-Tac. Donald Trump's anti-Tik-Tac, you're pro-Tic-Tac. Donald Trump has closed the border, your open border. Donald Trump serves American citizens. You serve illegal immigrants.

Donald Trump's pro-tariff. Now you're anti-tariff, and you're all of a sudden free market. Donald Trump's dovish on wars and wants to find peace in Israel and Gaza or in Ukraine, and now you're all of a sudden pro-war and bellicose and banging war drums. Russia. You're nothing. You're simply anti-Trump. And the public has noticed that energy has tapped. It doesn't drive anyone anymore. I'm not sure it doesn't drive anyone. It doesn't drive enough to simply be anti-Trump. It doesn't even drive the left. When the kids look at Andrew Cuomo, what do they see? They don't even see the man who has sexual harassment

charges as governor of New York. They don't see that. That's not what's holding Andrew Cuomo back. holding Andrew Cuomo back? Nothing. It's like you're running an episode of Seinfeld for mayor of New York City. What's it about? Nothing. The same old stuff. What? Incrementalism, marginal anti-Trumpism. What are you? Seriously. Lay it out. Democrat. Into the void walks Zoran Mamdani, who yes, of course, is anti-Trump. And all the trite things in the past of the left but he's also something more he has a vision say what you will dislike what you want but there are not 14,000 people gathered in the stadium because he's simply like everyone else because he's like andrew quomo no he's offering something you can mock it and you can

hate it you should mock it you should hate it but you can't ignore it you have to see a stadium filled with people and go why are they there because mom donnie has a vision public grocery stores, free buses, a weird mix of Islam and wokeism, anti-Israel. He has a message. Don't get caught in your feelings. If you're listening right now and going, I hate that message. Stop. Acknowledge.

You're looking at perhaps the one Democrat politician out there that is offering the voter something. something something positive I don't mean that in terms of good I mean that something in terms of not just the negative anti-Trumpism a vision of a future

that they can attach themselves to as they pay $3,000 a month for rent and a one-bedroom apartment walk up and lower Manhattan or as inflation prices them into snap in Queens.

He offers them free groceries. He offers them free buses. He offers them something in the void of nothing. That is Democrats. And that something is filling stadiums. It's winning the race for mayor of New York. That something is socialism. But that socialism is filling a stadium

in Queens take that and compare it to your other alternative if you're a Democrat and you're looking across the landscape

right now Zormandani is real he's authentic oh he moderates oh he equivocates but you and I both know down underneath that moderation and equivocation

is something real he believes in something and you compare that against for example the sitting governor of California who has now said in the most shocking news you could possibly receive today, oh, in fact, he will consider

a run for president in 2028. After the 2026 midterms, you're going to give it serious thought. Yeah, I'd be lying otherwise. I'd just be lying. And I can't do that. Governor, you have long said that if you ever run for the White House, you need a compelling why, a reason. Are you moving closer to figuring out your own why and your own decision?

Yeah, and he just said, compelling why, you can endure anyhow. And so I don't think, I think the biggest challenge for anyone runs for any office is people see right through you. I think everybody can see through Gavin Newsom. Here are his latest numbers. According to Decision Desk, H.Q, his unfavorability number is at 38.4, is favorable at 33.5. It's actually some of the best numbers that he has had over the past eight, nine, months. Still, though, underwater, more unfavorable than favorable. Why? Because, as opposed to the authentic radicalism of Zohran Mamdani, you get the transparent inauthenticity of Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom was

just on the All the Smoke podcast, where he described growing up as a child. He grew up in the hard streets of California, you understand. He survived on mac and cheese and wonder bread. And he bounced a basketball, just like so many NBA stars, into relevance, out of poverty, into success. Here is Gavin Newsom. But also, you know, it was also about paying the bills, man. And it was just like hustling. And so I was out there kind of raising myself. Turning on the TV, started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting there with the, you know, you know, the wonder bread and five stacks of, you know, like the white stack five story.

That's right, man. Come on. Macaronian cheese. Yeah, hold on, man, bro. Are you talking about me? Young YG is it. YG, man, I do it. Every day, every day in the backyard,

just bouncing the basketball, throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is just like frane, man. And your arms fall off. That's it. Whole thing. That's his story. That's Gavin Newsom. There's a magazine article from 1991.

It talks about the rich kids of San Francisco that are doing more than simply sitting on their laurels. They're actually looking to do something outside of being just rich kids. The story focuses on the children of Bill Getty and Justice Bill Newsom. Justice Bill Newsom, the father of Gavin Newsom. What did those rich kids want to do? Well, they opened a wine store together. That's what they did. They opened a wine store in San Francisco.

If you're watching us on Facebook or at Wilcane Country on YouTube, you can see some of the images of Gavin Newsom in the launch of this wine store in San Francisco. I guess he finished up his wonder bread and mac and cheese and put on his pleaded khakis and button down, three buttons down so you can see the appropriate amount of chest. And threw on his burberry scarf and went intended to the wine store. He and his buddies look straight out of a Brett Easton Ellis novel, just manning the tiller there, bringing in the French wine. Oh, no, this one here's an Italian. This is the hard scribble growing up of Gavin Newsom. And it's so transparently fake. So transparently fake.

This is your option if you're looking for a Democrat. You get this slimy, plastic BS artist, or you get with a man like Zoramam Dani, who's not afraid to take a picture with the Cuban communist delegation. Yeah, it's scary, but it's real. Zoramam Dani posing with a delegation of communists from Cuba. Zoroamam Dani, who talks about his experience after 9-11, because his experience after 9-11 is what matters, is what's important. When you think about the 3,000 souls lost on 9-11, don't forget about those souls as well that lived after 9-11 in New York City. I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt who stopped taking the subway after September 11th

because she did not feel safe in her hijab. You see, his aunt is who you should remember every 9-11 because she had to stop taking the subway because Zoroamam Dani was pulled out of class along with his other Muslim friend because the teacher was concerned about the backlash to Zoramam Dani. Zoram Dani says that he never felt like a New Yorker. He doesn't feel like, even though he came from Uganda and he's a Muslim, and there's this false promise that you too can become a New Yorker, but he wants you to remember those who somehow don't feel like they fit in because that's what it means to represent an entire city, a city that lost 3,000 on September 11th of 2001. Zoroamom Dondae, a

whose father said, his professor father, Abraham Lincoln was inspired by Hitler. This is what he thinks of America, but Zoroamandani thinks. It's ugly. It's stupid, but it's real. And it's gathered 13 to 14,000 people in the stadium in Queens. And it is far and away leading the race for mayor in New York. Yeah, there might be those who can still be attracted to the used car salesman in California who peddles fake lie after fake lie about himself and about what he stands for, about what he would do with America, but you know what Zoroamam Dani would do with New York. You know what he would do with America. And that's something right now is more than nothing. The Democrat Party is now the party of socialism. Zoroamam Dani is now the leading figure. for the future of Democrats. And that can't be ignored. That can't be ignored as it fills up stadiums. That can't be ignored as it becomes the mayor of New York City.

That shouldn't be ignored as it becomes one of the leading voices now in America. Let's break this down with the host of Your Welcome and the author of Not Sick of Winning. Michael Malice coming up on Will Cain Country. The Mayor of Mexico, J.B. Pritzker. It is Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Fox News, Facebook page. Set a reminder, hit follow, like. That way you're with us every Monday through Thursday live at 12 o'clock Eastern Time. If you can't be with us live, then you just follow us on Spotify or on Apple.

J.B. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois, is running to be not mayor of New York City like Zoroamandhi, appears he's running to be the mayor of Mexico. Don't you dare, don't you dare use the word, illegal alien. Here's J.B. Pritzker. But it starts with that people, anybody who's progressive is for open borders. Well, some people are. Well, I'll tell you that Democrats are not for open border. I mean, we had a real problem and we needed to do something about the border. But now, now we need to do something about the people who work for you and work for other people who are here and law abiding, doing the right thing, and they want to be good Americans. They want a path towards staying in this country, whether we call it citizenship or just legal residency. We need to give them that path.

That questioner went on to use the term illegal alien, in which point he grant said and said, don't you dare use. that racist and bigoted term. Michael Malice is the host of You're Welcome, also the author of Not Sick of Winning the White Pill and the New Right. Michael Malice joins us now. What's up, Michael? I thought that, did you catch that

when he said, we used to have a real problem with the border? So according to Democratic propaganda, there was never a border problem. This is entirely a right-wing Fox News propaganda point. Trump's making it up to be racist against Hispanics or Mexicans. And now Pritzker's, oh, yeah, we used to have real problem.

When? When would he admit that there was a problem with the border? It was just a very casual slight of hand. And I think his point to using that term illegal alien, if there's one thing people take away from what I say today, is that they use language to manipulate, not to communicate. The entire point of what Pristaker says or Newsom says is to get you to think how he wants. It's not to persuade you through logical reason,

but to force your brain to think in progressive terms. On the point of the open border, I would love to go back. I would love Pritzker to point out where he suggested at the time that the border was a problem. Of course, he didn't under Biden over those four years. He did the opposite, I'm sure. As you point out, he used it to say, that's just Republicans making up something, and they're a bunch of bigots. Now, to your point of the sleight of hand, he casually admits that we had a problem. We fixed the problem.

But now we have a new problem, and that is the Trump enforcing deportation. And you're absolutely right. And, you know, I'm tempted to accept. your statement and move forward because I agree with you and it seems self-evident, but it's not self-evident. I think everybody should listening always have these antennas up, but the way that you manipulate language is the way that you shut down thought. And by suggesting that the term illegal alien is somehow bigoted is a way for you to no longer think of someone who's in the country illegally as anything other than a citizen. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And maybe Pritzker is just

jealous because if Trump, we could put him on the border, you don't need a wall. And then what's he going to, you know, what use is he going to be running for president or for governor? He'd certainly keep out, uh, uh, illegals of all kinds. Um, but the, I think it just also speaks to fundamental truth that people like Pritzker don't regard illegal aliens as not having a right to be in America. Their point is, you're here. It is our job to take care of you, regardless of your backstory. And to a certain point, he's not incorrect. If someone is an illegal immigrant and they got hit by a car, you're not going to leave them on the street to just die, right? So there is a minimum level of care for these people but the idea that

the way forward is to make sure they can stay here and make it easier to be here people like Pritzker also pretend humans don't respond to incentives so if I'm in some other country and I know hey if I just get my my butt over the board of Texas or to California I know I'm home free you see what's happening in England I was just there over the summer you get you step foot in England you get Netflix you get a stipend free money to buy whatever you want.

And the thing is, these people are refugees, air quotes, from France. And I'm like, I can understand maybe, theoretically, you're from a war-torn country like Syria. France? Like, you can't handle living in France. They've got to take care of England. So there's no limit and there's no bottom. And until people appreciate just how far people like Pritzker would go, they're going to have a real issue with America as a Republican any sense. aOC has said that every human being has a right to health care that's obviously meant to suggest not just American citizens so you're here illegally you have a right to health care that's in part tied to the belief that health care is a human right and I actually think that's an earnest belief that is held by much of the left I don't think they understand the philosophy and logic of what that means to have a right to health care they don't understand the difference between a negative right and a positive right and that those two rights cannot coexist if

one has a right to health care, another doesn't have a right to his time or his labor, that one being the doctor. If you have a right to positive things, entitlements to things, you've taken with the freedom of somebody else in the negative rights realm. Negative rights are free from. I'm free from interference. I'm free of my time, my property, my labor. So those two things can't coexist.

They just simply don't coexist. And for what's worth, I know you know this, Michael, like the South African Constitution, Soviet Constitution. These are based upon the existence of positive rights, that you have a right to a job, a right to health care, a right to leisure, right to vacation. You have a right to all of these things. Of course, these things are not things that grow on trees. Negative rights do grow on trees. They're granted by our creator and they're to be protected by the government. But you can't have one and the other. You get to really pick. Which one do you have, positive rights or negative rights?

you know i i don't think they regard freedom as one of their top values i think it's kind of like you know if there's a flavor of ice cream i like and it's my seventh favorite i can say with the straight face it's one of my top ten but every time i go to the store i'm going to get one the first second or maybe once a mile the third it's just never going to come up you know it's frankly it's almost in the same way that republicans talk about uh spending cuts like they talk about it we're not seeing it you we haven't seen it for decades so it's really kind of unfortunate uh that the republican parties are more serious about cutting spending is i'm sure you and and most people listening to this would like.

But the thing is, that is their point of view is more dangerous. Because at that point, it's like, okay, if I have people here who need health care, health care is not cheap, right? So I'm in a position as the government to, you know, take as much as I need to from upper class, middle class citizens through taxation and just run that printing mill, printing machine. And, you know, God help what happens to the economy. If you look at Great Britain where they love the NHS, the standard of living,

is lower than the perverse American state. We just don't realize it because those posh accents. You know, real quick, as an aside on spending cuts, one of the things is philosophically and principally, and for that matter, practically as well when it comes to the future of America's solvency, spending cuts are an important topic to be had. But there was also a political reality that I promise you every politician is calculating, and that is that no one really ever gets elected or reelected based upon spending cuts. idea is it's bad. It's bad politics. Because for the same reason, people like Zora Mamdani

in a watered down version of it, they like the pork running to their district, in whatever form that takes. It could take the form of an airport that's being built out in a county that may or may not need that airport or a military base, whatever it may be. Government spending has its beneficiary, so it doesn't really help anyone electorally to cut government spending. There's just a small counterfactual here today that's worth noting. And that is Javier Mali in Argentina, who has been cutting government, just won his party a ton of elections in Argentina, retained power. Beyond Mali, you know, like the rest of the Argentinian political apparatus that's been cutting was actually rewarded. And that's a really fascinating development.

It's because their economy is doing well. You know, austerity measures have helped. Government cutbacks have helped the economy in Argentina. And it's working for them electorally. But at the same time, Argentina was a far worse state than we are. Even, I think, they were like just his, I mean, in terms of crime, in terms of economics, at that point, it's kind of like any port in a storm, and he didn't win a huge landslide when he was first elected. So, and also to your point, and I want people to appreciate this, every single government program

has someone in Congress who will fight tooth and nail to make sure that program is not removed, and that person is often a Republican. And they can make a very easy defense of it. You need this military base. You need this stadium. you need this program for this school it's it's it's pork but there's always some ostensible reason so yeah maybe your point is correct we're going to have to get to that level i don't want us to get to argentina to have to enact spending cuts but you know looking at the data

that looks like or what it has to take canada had austerity measures too i believe in the 60s with a trudeau's dad i i'm sure it wasn't in good economic times no right that's a really really good point it comes you know know, at the moment of crisis. That's when those types of measures are actually implemented. And we're just simply not at that place in America at the moment of crisis. Michael, you're the perfect guy to discuss Zora Mamdani. You brought up Gavin Newsom. He is some version of Andrew Cuomo, I believe. I actually think he's probably even a more odious version of a Democrat politician than Andrew Cuomo. That's not just because Cuomo is the alternative Mamdani. There's just

there's a plasticness to Newsom, a wantonness and a naked ambition and inauthenticity that I find particularly odious with him, even more so than Cuomo. But I think it's fascinating that Democrats today are kind of looking at Newsom as one potential future of the party. And in New York, there's another future of the party that is on the rise. And I watch those videos, Michael, from New York, from Queens. from Forest Hill Stadium, which I looked up holds 13 to 14,000 capacity. It looks like it was a capacity for that Mamdani rally.

And I'm going to tell you something. I walk away, and to me, the story out of that isn't primarily listen to this guy and how radical he is, listen to what he has to say. That is all part of the story. But walking out of that rally, to me is look at all the people buying in to that story. And that is the thing you need to discuss. This stuff, Mom Donnie, is really popular in New York. But, Will, we saw this before.

This is 2008. We had the corporate hack Hillary Clinton, who was the anointed candidate of the machine. And this was a great moment in social media. She had this ad about like, oh, we're all going to work together. This is going to be a fun conversation, vapid platitudes, and some fan parodied that 1984 Apple ad, where someone in the audience swings a sledgehammer and slams into her screen where she's big brother, I guess big sister in this case, and that Obama's the alternatives telling the Democratic voters, you don't have to go down this path.

This guy's young. He's not this boomer leftist of the new left. He's a new way of thinking, yes, we can. And Obama, you know, ran the primaries against her. And this is exactly what we're seeing. Cuomo is a Clinton figure. He worked for the Clintons in some capacity. He definitely comes out of that wing of that corporate hack, Wall Street, old school blue-collar wing of the Democratic Party. And Bundani is just Obama, too.

So Obama's, as you and I discussed, Obama's brand of politics took a massive hit in 24 with the defeat of Officer Harris. And now this is the resurgence of that wing. I think what we're seeing behind the scenes is the Clinton DLC wing versus the multicultural anti-American Mamdani Obama wing. Where does Gavin Newsom fit? Do you agree that Newsom is the corporate Democrat? He's just the West Coast

version of Cuomo? He's literally Hillary Clinton. It's the same exact venality, smarmyness, holier than thou, soullessness. I don't think anyone on the right or the left would look at Gavin Newsom and say, like you were saying in your monologue, this guy has real principles.

His only principle is Gavin Newsom. And as that was on your show and I said, all they have to do is run an ad that said, says, would you buy used car from this man? And he's done. And every poll I've seen, and please correct me if you've seen, dad, I haven't, shows that, yeah, he has high recognition in the Democratic Party. But any time he's run against the J.D. Vance versus several other potential nominees, he fares poorly because Karen, who's like the swing voter in America, sees right through him. She knows this guy. She doesn't trust him as far as she could throw him. He stands for nothing. And he's, I don't think he has much. He'd be.

a great VP nominee for them because he's good or at least he's portrayed as good by the media as an attack dog but in terms of leading the ticket i don't think he has a snowball chance snowballs chance at hell so could it be a o c for president in 2020 let's continue this conversation with the host of your welcome michael malice on will cane country i got to say if i was Zohra Mamdani or Kamala Harris or whoever would be at the top of that ticket. Before you asked Gavin Newsom to be your VP, put on a bulletproof vest with most of the armor in the back. Make sure you have really good protection from behind because that man will do anything to be president. Okay, okay, so this is what I want to acknowledge that that Mamdani,

As you heard me lay out, despite hating America, despite being openly socialist, at least offers the Democrat voter something. It's a positive vision. People think positive is always a good thing. I just mean a forward vision, something for them to rally around. Not the corporate anti-Trumpism of Cuomo and Clinton and Newsom, but I do want the Democrat voter who's 25 can tell themselves. I do want free buses. I do. I am. I am mad at America because my teachers indoctrinated me into thinking this is a bad experiment. This man actually says something, and there is an ugly authenticity to Mom Dani that must be recognized because I do believe this movement is not limited to Queens. This movement will expand. This movement will find its other champions.

It may not be specifically Mamdani. It'll be hard to find a similar level of charismatic champion, but if they do, this is the future of the left. Well, it's also the past. Again, this is the Obama playbook. It's just, you know, remember, the Obama campaign could be summed up in one word, change. What do you want to do? Change, change.

And he's right to use that word because, again, the Democratic part at their lowest point in decades. So if you're going to have Cuomo say, we got to stay the course, it's like, that course got us Trump twice. So as a Democrat, why would I want to go back if I hate Trump to the same people, who weren't able to defeat him. So of course, I'm going to pick someone who's young, who is good as good on social media, which is obviously the future of politics in general in many ways, as opposed to some.

And frankly, it's just like in 2020. Every person who voted for Biden was an anti-Trump vote, right? So I don't think it's, I think it's impossible to tell people one reason to vote for Cuomo other than to stop Mamdani. Not one person likes him. Even Kathy Hokel, who was, people forget, his lieutenant governor. The only reason she's governor is because he was such a mess. And it's kind of funny that as a former New Yorker, you know, I've lived here in Texas now since 2021, the choice is, do you want to vote for the guy who killed a lot of people in the past or the one who's going to kill a lot of people in the future?

These are your, or Curtis Slewa. Poor Curtis Slewa. These are the choices New Yorkers face. God help that city. Well, okay, hold on. I want to explore God help that city for a moment because I get to thinking about this, Michael. And I may be talking about this throughout the day and end of the week. Okay, I think what we're looking at is a fascinating moment for what it means to be a Democrat. Because for half a century, Republicans appointed at Democrats and said, underneath the surface is socialism. To that, by the way, it's been denied by Democrats. Now it is no longer being denied.

It's being accepted. It's being, yes, in fact, I am a Democrat socialist or I am a socialist. And the temptation on the right is to go, okay, good luck New York City, meaning we know the cost of these policies. and what you'll have is a failed city. However, what is the response to a failed city? What I mean by that is socialism is nothing new to Europe. Socialism is a legitimate political party in most European countries. And they, of course, win.

They win to some degree, some parliamentary seats, some prime ministerships, certainly influence the outcome of policies in a parliamentary government in almost all of these European countries. And, yeah, it doesn't work. And yes, it has a slow, slow dripping decline of civilization over time. I think it's beginning to speed up as right now in Europe and it's getting undeniable. But never has the European response really ever been, damn, this stuff doesn't work. Let's go in the other direction.

It just slows or speeds, but always continues in the same direction of progressive socialism. So what comes after, Mom Donnie, regardless of the results in New York City? probably probably more socialism you're incorrect sir because in 1978 a certain woman named margaret thatcher ran on a campaign slogan of three words labor isn't working and the next year she was elected the big majority in great britain after you could there's no way in hell donald trump could have been elected unless you had eight years of obama before him this guy who's a nobody real estate developer reality show guy if it had been 2012 he had much worse of a shot.

So, historically speaking, a lot of these countries, especially America, is going to revert to the mean. I do not believe, if you look at the past, you had leftist Woodrow Wilson, you had 12 years of Republicanism. Okay. I'm not, I'll do respect. I don't think I am incorrect, sir. I think that you can point out the rise of Margaret Thatcher.

You can point out the election. of Herbert Hoover after Woodrow Wilson. And those are fine counterfactuals in a small sample size over about a decade span. But my point is, over the long arc of history, it has moved in one direction. Look at England today. Is it the England of Margaret Thatcher? Or is it the England of Zoramam Dhani? And the point is, Thatcher can come in and do her thing for eight years, however long

she was prime minister. and that's fine. But the arc of New York City over time will follow the arc of the UK. And the arc of the UK is they have debates over how much health care should be free, not whether or not health care should be free. They have arguments incrementally about the extent of socialism, not the existence of socialism. And I feel like once we go down this path, open election.

of socialist policies, I'm concerned, you don't go back, Michael. You don't go back over the long arc. You just gravitate because of the populism we were talking about earlier. You give out a little and you get addicted to the government spending, just like that. And what does the counterfactual look like after Mbondani? It's, hey, these public grocery stores, the prices are too high. We're going to bring down the prices at public grocery store, not eradicate public grocery stores. that's the ratchet effect yes so you and you i agree with you they they put in their policies and the person who comes in who's a response pulls them back but not entirely we saw this with isanhauer after truman and fdr but here's a counterfactual regarding new york because in

nineteen eighty nine david dinkins was elected defeating long-time mayor ed kotch it was a complete debacle there was open violence in in neighborhoods like crown heights and what does the mayor do when you have these open riots he decides to crack down on jaywalking but as a result of him You had eight years of Rudy Giuliani, and then three years of Michael Bloomberg, who was hardly some kind of conservative Republican, but was certainly a technocrat and moderate who just wanted the city to be run well. So I agree with you, but the concern is what do you, right now, people are much more mobile. The New Yorkers have more, like I left. A lot of people are leaving New York because there's other options. Cities are becoming more and more outdated because you don't need to live in New York like you did in 1989 because we have the Internet now to put up your shingle and establish.

establish your store and establish your brand. So I'm agreeing with you in this regard. It's going to be a lot more dangerous to have a Mumdani in 2025 than in Dinkins in 1989. But although that arc does drift in that direction, it's not a hockey stick like the Greta Thunberg kind of sense. What would you say if you were placing your bet today, Michael? Would your bet be?

It looks like, by the way, Zoro Mamdani is going to be the next mayor of New York. Would your bet be that there will be a pendulum swing and a Rudy Giuliani type figure that's the next mayor after Mamdani of New York, or which one would you bet on first, that the next candidate for president in the United States as a Democrat will be a Mamdani-like figure. I'm not going to talk about, I don't, not the Muslim elements of Mamdani, but the socialist element of Mamdani. So the Republicans did this thing as well, right? They had Bush, who was run as a conservative in 2004. Then they tacked to the left with McCain and Romney.

Then they went back to the right with Trump three times in a row, which is obviously largely historically unprecedented. So the Democrats have the same thing. They had Biden, who's the corporate hack after Obama. Kamala Harris, I think, kind of straddles in some senses. The Biden corporate hack wing and the Obama left this wing, she just really was a puppet of the machine. She really had much principles her own. So if I'm a Democrat, and I think all the momentum is certainly with that Bernie wing, that Bernie wing that was denied twice by Biden and was denied by Hillary Clinton, that's where I would

definitely put my money. Obviously, it wouldn't be him. He's not going to run for president. But someone of that ilk who is going to carry that mantle, I don't think Newsom would have a chance in hell in the primaries against someone like that. But someone like that remains, the problem is it still has to be a person. back to, I'm here today to give credit where credit is due with Mamdani. I'm here to sound the alarm bells about Mom Donnie. But I am not here today to simply dismiss. That's specifically what

I'm not here to do. You cannot dismiss Mom Donnie. Some of that is personal to him. I don't know who that national figure is that can do what Mamdani is done outside of New York. Well, Trump came out of nowhere before 2016, Obama had been a nobody before 2008. It is, you know, three years out. So it's very, and Clinton also in 92, what the Democrats like to do is take someone as kind of an unknown figure. The media portrays him as the second coming and the Democratic , especially the primary voters, vote for it. So all it would have to take is some governor or some senator that is in your mind radar screen, carry this mantle, have Bernie endorsed them, and AOC endorsed them. And they'd really be a jugger.

not in 2028 plus the Democrats have a huge advantage because in 2026 in the midterms they get to see okay who are people voting for are they voting because you're going to have 435 house seats you've got many governor races and center races who who is getting the voters out who's getting the the donations is it going to be the DSA wing of the Democratic Party is it going to be the kind of new some corporate hack wing and then they could run someone accordingly we have some evidence to answer that question Michael And here it is from the New York Post. Chuck Schumer's fundraising slows to a trickle, leaving him open to a tax from his own party.

Chuck Schumer, rumored to be running against AOC, his fundraising has slowed to a trickle. And just to fill in the gap, Schumer is your corporate Democrat. And there are suggestions that the parties, the party's alternative will be Senator from New York, Alexander Acosio-Cortez. And that is shocking because he's also the minority leader and former majority leader. this guy's roots in wall street and new york city go back for decades he is the quintessential left-wing corporate hack so for him to be behind her at this point i got to tell you something else and i bet you you agree with me if the tea leaves are going this direction chuck schumer he said a lot of things about him he's no dummy i think he'd retire rather than be humiliatingly defeated by aOC in a primary

yeah that's probably true and it gives us some answer and by the way Maybe that answer is AOC. I don't know that she has all of the intangibles necessary to have national appeal. And I just, and I'm not sure it will be there for a Mom Doni or an AOC in time for 2026 or 2028. I think this Texas state senator running for Senate in, in Texas, James Tala Rico, probably comes from something like this wing as well. and I think it could be a little early, but the point is there's some talent out there. I'm not 100% sure. It's pure Major League talent, but it's quadruple-A. It's more than AAA talent for Democrats coming out of this wing, Michael, that we're talking about.

This socialist hate America wing of Democrats, there's quadruple-A talent. Let's see if they can make it in the majors. And the Bernie machine is there for the taking. So he's built this infrastructure now for several cycles. So it's not going to be very hard for him to hit his mailing list, his supporters, to anoint someone as carrying on his message. And right away, that person is going to be top tier in those primaries, whoever that Bernie candidate would be.

All right. Check him out at your welcome. It's Michael's podcast. You can check out any of his three books, white pill the new right not sick of winning always enjoy the thoughtful conversations with michael malice thanks michael always a great pleasure will we'll see you man um you guys understand what i mean by quadruplea right everybody's enough of a sports fan to know that tinfo pat to a day stand you're a baseball fan dan you know that that that quadruplea player right that's the

guy that is always raking at triple a he's and you're kind of looking at him at triple a going let's call him up but every time you call him up it doesn't translate and he's not a major leaguer And he put him back down at AAA, which is the last stepping stone before Major League. And he does it again. Who is that? He's really good at AAA. And he promote him again. And he's not so great in the majors.

And it's like he becomes known as a quadruple A player. I'm going to throw a name out there for you, Will. A guy blast from your past, Nelson Cruz was given this label until he broke out with 50 plus home-run seasons. Clint Frazier, the Yankees, was kind of that way, up and down. Yeah. It always makes you wonder why. Like, how can you be the best player on the field at AAA? It's a big jump.

It's a big jump. I guess it is a big jump. It's a big jump. Oh, Ed's pointing to his head. Also, whatever. You know, there's just a mental game right there. I don't know if that's belief in yourself. Finally made the show.

Zen Ed. Now you're not the same guy you were. Yeah. I thought when you were going to offer me a name, Patrick, it wasn't going to be Nelson Cruz. but an actual politician who might be the next socialist star for Democrats. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, the star issue on the left is the destruction of the east wing of the White House.

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Had to go. Had an early kickoff on a high school football game. And they all hung around playing bumper pool and so forth. And it was Ed and Ellie and Miller and Herman. And they all decided to put on their community theater hats. and they all did impressions of me. They're all gathering here for their roasting on Wilcane country. And let me tell you, so my son's liked it.

You guys liked it. I saw you guys on the text. That's awesome. They're all mocking, doing impressions of me. Is it mocking or just doing you? He says, are we mocking you or are we just doing you? And my son's liked it. My son's watched it.

And one of my sons said, they thought Ellie's acting job of me and scheduling was really good. And they go, I don't know about the acting of the white guy. And I go, there were no white guys in the video. I don't know what you're talking about. And I said, you're talking about Ed? Yeah. No, yeah. And that's why they said, are you going to tell him?

I go, you damn right. I'm going to tell him that you called him a white guy. Ed is Latino. He's a whero. He is a white Mexican, or Mexican that's very white. But you've got to do your accent when you do your acting so that people know. Otherwise, there's like, who's the white guy on Wilking Country? The white guys are tinfoil pat and two a days, Dan.

All right, we've got a couple of other things there today for final takes. But let's talk before we get to college football. Let's talk about the East Wing because it's an issue that they just love, not going anywhere. I never heard of this guy. Is this a guy that we should know? I'm just not into the chef. I don't know chefs. He is a celebrity chef?

Okay. His name is what? Tom Coliccio. Tom Coliccio. And he posted a picture of he and his wife, and he says in the picture, my wife and I, in the East Wing, I can't believe it's gone. Can I just give you a little personal peep? And it's hard. A lot of people get it wrong.

And I'm not real good at grammar, but I did learn this lesson. And once I got it, it stuck. You guys see what's wrong about what he wrote? My wife and I in the East Wing, I can't believe it's gone. Comma? It's not I, it's me. My wife and me in the East Wing. I can't believe it's gone.

You know the rule on that? It's a real easy rule. I'm in the East Wing. I just take out my wife and I said it would read I in the east wing um me in the east wing take out the other part of the subject and then you ask yourself does it work and so it's me and the thing is people do it

and I'm you know I mean I have family members to do this a lot and they do it because they think I sounds right or more formal than me they think the me is like grammatically me in the east wing it doesn't sound as like oh just the eyes like when you're writing it not when they say it when they write it like it just sounds solid i right versus me but it's just take the rest out and say is that right yeah i in the east wing my grandmother told me that one me in the east wing this is probably why he's cooking for a living so it's a real easy it's a real easy lesson

um but that's just my pet peeve community notes pet Pete pointed out, this is clearly not the East Wing. They're standing in the diplomatic reception room, which can be found in the main White House building, not the East Wing. A picture featuring the painting, fireplace, and bits of wallpaper can be found here. He's not in the East Wing when he's taking the picture, lamenting the fall of the East Wing. Tom Coliccio. I think the White House, or somebody involved in White House responded, just put the fries in the bag, Tom. And then the rest of the rest of the world

jumped all over it and it was pretty funny Jack Posobic says I took this iconic photo of the east wing of the White House many years ago I can't believe it's gone no kings

it's the interior of a pizza hut from a long ago time I remember those remember that guys oh yeah glass the stained glass chandeliers over the booths

and the picnic table red and white made it feel like a local mom and pop yep speaking of that chef andrew gruel says i took this iconic photo of the east wing the white house many years ago i can't believe it's gone no kings and that's an old school McDonald's look at that that's with the tree and the mural on the wall with ronald macdonald oh and do you remember the little uh barstool things they had god that was some good times that's when you had your birthday party at McDonald's and you fist pumped because of it beef tele fries where's your birthday party McDonald's jealous he's having his party at McDonald's Donald's ball pit so awesome oh yeah the whole

playground was awesome Tim pool I took this iconic photo in the wing of the White House I can't believe it's gone that looks like a is that what is that interior he's got there and says on the wall Funco Lane is a yeah it's like a block for before game stop

there used to be much smaller games we used to get Funco Land I would get like N64 games game boy games We had electronics boutique You can rent them Different kinds of those Yeah There's a rent video game

Man I I love like sitting there on the couch You want to watch something tonight And when you guys do that How long do you shop I shop so long that I'm like Well I don't have time to watch the show now Like I check Apple TV

I check Hulu I check Netflix I check Prime You know unless you have something going If you're in that nether region If I have nothing going I shop But it's not as good as the days of going to Blockbuster and shopping

That was part of the ritual, man That was a good time Sitting there, walking around the aisles of Blockbuster What are you going to get? What candy are you going to get? Two? I said, we're going to have a big weekend We're going to get two?

Two movies? Amazing. I don't know. I've advised me, by the way. I will, before you give me advice, okay, I want you to give me advice. watched something other than football this weekend and I and I did it like late night Saturday and I didn't finish it because I fell asleep I went out Saturday got home wasn't ready to

bed started a movie probably got 20 minutes into the movie finished it Sunday morning I love that like you wake up let's finish a movie first thing and I'm curious what you're going to suggest and see if it's what I watch so just on the count of three say what you are going to suggest one two three a house of dynamite that's what I'm I watched, Dan. I knew you were going to say it. And you're giving me the thumbs up on a House of Dynamite. You are recommending this because this is going to solidify

it for you, man. This is it. From now on your taste is done. Go ahead. I texted you guys. Did you not get my text on Saturday night? We probably watched it at the same time. God, Jesus. He turns them off. That hurt my feelings.

Anyways, so I started the House of Dynamite. I was like, oh, this is cool. This is right up my life. love this. I texted you guys. Hey, recommendation, House of Dynamite, watch this movie. You're going to love it. Let's discuss after. I get to the end. I texted you. Just kidding. That was horrible. Oh, you did. Do not watch. Go back to your text. I said, do not watch it. This was a terrible, terrible movie, terrible ending. What the hell? I just put myself through an hour and a half of stress and anxiety for no GD reason. You tried to warn you. Okay. See, good job, Dan. I wish

I would have watched your text that night. It was Saturday night. I was doing things, man. I was actually social. I was having a good time Saturday night. So I wasn't reading your texts, and that's the night I came home. And I would have. This is like I didn't get the text about the nuclear bomb that had dropped, right?

You were texting me, be careful, be careful. And I walked into the radiation zone because I didn't check my text. I got home, and I'm like, what is this House of Dynamite? Oh, it's a new Netflix movie. It looked awesome. It's kind of interesting. Straight actors. And dude started it.

started it you described the perfect it it was good you're like so good stumbled on something here right this is good zero dark 30 yeah katherine bigelow zero dark 30 hurt locker i think i stumbled on to something here dude i saw the gig coming dan i saw it two thirds into the movie two thirds i saw how much time was left in the movie and i got the format now i knew what we were doing we were looking at the same moment through three different lenses right you saw you saw it through the White House Situation Room. You saw it, I believe it was through like the NORAD military base and command central eyes.

And then you saw it through the eyes of the president. And I started doing the math on it. And I'm like, if we're seeing the same thing from three-diff angles, there's going to be no resolution. There's no time for the resolution. I don't want to spoil it, but. At least give us an ending. Well, I'm here to tell the odds.

What happens is there's no ending. There's no ending to the movie. It simply sets up a cataclysmic nuclear event. and then it's over and then it's over and you have no idea I looked at my wife what happened what's the point we look at each other like what the hell this is not to make everything political but that is what happened here Dan this is a movie about nuclear proliferation it's not a movie about a story this is where politics matters you have to understand why this happened they made this movie because they wanted to warn the world about nuclear proliferation but

they didn't make a movie. They didn't make a story that carried you through. And so what happens at the end of that movie? It's a PSA, dude. You're supposed to get to the movie and go, that's scary. Yeah. We should, we should, we should really dearm nuclear.

We all know that already. We all know it. Yeah, we know that. That's right. What land do you think we're living in? Sorry. You do not like the end of the sopranos? This is not like the end of the spruis.

It's a little. It's a little like that, Pat, but it's like that times a hundred, man. There was no plot device that ended it. No. Yeah. Dan, in the beginning, because you went through the first one, and then when they reset, you're like, this movie could be 20 minutes. Like, the movie could be quite literally. Like the first episode, it quite literally could be 20, 30 minutes, but then they did the same thing from those different angles.

And that's how they got to an hour and 15 or whatever it ended up being. but it literally advanced the plot zero each time. Do you do this thing where you try to like kind of guess little things like what's going to happen? I'm always like, oh, that's going to be, you know, they're going to go this way and that way. I kind of say it out loud to my wife. And God, was I wrong on every single thing. I thought it was something so completely different than what it actually was. And it ended up just being a warning.

And with all these great actors, how did they sign up to this? How did Rebecca Ferguson and all these great actors and Idris Elba, Sign up for this. There wasn't even like... The same way that we... The way we clicked on it. The same way we clicked on it. Zero Dark 30, Hurt Locker.

In. In. They signed up for it. We clicked on it for the same reason. They could have ended it even a little better by just giving us a little, little hint of something. You know what I'm saying?

Nope. Because, and this is why, you know, you talk about politics and culture. this. I wouldn't even mind Dan about the political message if they made me an entertaining story at the end. Land the plane. Give me a plot. And then maybe it's entertaining enough that I'll accept your lefty premises. But I haven't seen that Leo and R. DiCaprio movie

and everybody's saying it's a lefty, you know, dystopic vision of the future. But if it's an entertaining story, I might watch it, even if it's got this message. But this one was just message. Well, yeah, nuclear proliferation whole thing. Don't we all worry about that? Yeah, I mean, yeah, we do all worry about that. But there's an element of realism to nuclear proliferation that I think the lefty vision is what? We're all going to kumbaya this thing all of a sudden and the Chinese are going to stand down and the Russians are going to stand down and then we're going to stand down.

It's like who's the first one that puts their gun down? I want to watch that movie with Pete. know it's... And see the realism of it. Just like all the processes of what they went through. They could have ended that so many times. I wondered if Pete or any of the people that we know working in the administration would watch that movie and go, this is so unrealistic the way it unfolds.

Because that's the only cool thing about the movie is that it seems to be behind the scenes of how it works in these places. And I will tell you, as someone who's been in SECDF's office at Pentagon, damn they did a good job it looked just like that really just like that in the movie yeah um so i've never been in the situation room i'm gonna assume based on that that's what it's like in the situation room um angel reese was in all those different environments angel reese being the one in it you didn't pick up that it was left you at that point i did the president is making a celebrity appearance the minute they go the minute they go the president is appearing at a w nba they're

He called her the best three-point shooter. Yeah, of course. And then it's not, yeah, and it's not Caitlin Clark. It's Angel Reese is the celebrity thing that he's going to meet. The president is spending time that morning because he's with Angel Reese instead of dealing with a nuclear crisis moment. What did you ask, tinfoil? I don't remember. I knew you were, you're right.

that moment, I was like, oh, this is a lefty movie. Well, they called her the best three-point shooter in the WMBA. Patrick, my wife goes, I know her. You are like Patrick Mahomes. Like, you know what, man, we don't even need a play call. You just call it at the line, baby. Adlib this thing. Just, just, what do you call, call an audible?

We'll call it at the line once we read the defense. Yeah, I mean, I studied a lot of. Don't let the catcher call pitches. Think about it on the way to the mound. What is the pitch going to be? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I figure it out.

Watch this. It doesn't matter. So anyway, Omaha. Omaha, Omaha, Omaha, time for final takes. Final takes. Now that he's warmed up, let's let him clear his throat. And 10th will path going to take us through final takes. You know, I don't think I have to today.

I mean, I did it earlier. So we have another coach, another coach fired after an abysmal season so far. Brian Kelly of LSU is out. He's no longer the head coach there. And it's a pretty big deal. Now you have openings at Penn State, Florida, LSU. I think there are 12 schools. Should be 13 schools.

This makes me happy as a Notre Dame fan You know, I got to thinking about this As they weren't yet getting blown out by Texas A&M I was at a party For a school event They had the games They had Texas on and then they had this game on And I was with

I was with both A&M fans and LSU fans And at this point, right They're in the game against Texas A&M And they have two losses on their record And I was, I did say like he has a lot of heat on him for a two-loss coach. Like, Sark has two losses. A lot of guys have two losses.

And you start thinking about why was Brian Kelly already getting heat. And do you think you have a good answer for that question other than it goes really back to that introductory press conference where he faked an accent? Like, I really do think that was bad, really bad for his future, because it made him so fake and inauthentic. And then he was kind of just a bad cultural fit. And the only way that was going to be forgiven was for him to win. and win big. And he didn't. And then they're like, well, this guy's not one of us. He doesn't fit culturally. And that's that for Brian Kelly at LSU. $54 million buyout. Second biggest, I think, to Jimbo Fisher's buyout, right? So that's the second

biggest buyout in college football history. And immediately, would you say rank these, these are clearly the top three jobs? So let's all rank them really quickly. Penn State, Florida, LSU. What's number one? LSU LSU for sure Easily You think it's above You think it's above Florida?

More recent success Yeah, I guess, yeah You have more recent success So, you know, then you also have Essentially like Any player out of Louisiana is coming to you Just guaranteed It's just like built into the fabric

Whereas like Florida kids Or Texas kids They have all these different schools To choose from And people come poaching them But it's like If you're in Louisiana You're going to

LSU. Yeah. I would love to know the athletic department's budgets, the size, what they're paying between those two schools. Penn State's prestigious. I tend to think of Florida as bigger. Everybody seems to think Penn State is below Florida. So if LHSA is up there with Florida, I'm not saying that by us.

I'm not saying, no, I'm saying, I know that, but I'm saying it is, it is, there's a reason they've had 15 years of inadequacy with five head coaches. Like, it's really hard to win there because they don't really support the things at that level. Well, let me say this. There's more big-time openings than big-time coaches. More big-time openings than big-time coaches. And what that means is a lot of money, a lot of money for Lane Kiffin. Wherever he goes, even if he stays at Ole Miss, a lot of money for Lane Kiffin.

Kiffin. And by the way, can I get a little credit, boys? I called Ole Miss over Oklahoma. I called A&M over LSU, and you guys all raised your eyebrows. That's true. That's true. I thought A&M was going to win than I. I don't like it. I don't like it. I have a question for you. Do you think the NIL and transfer portal has made college football coaches more important to the process and everything or less? Because I feel like we don't talk about them as much with as much stature. I don't know. Did you guys see over the weekend where a rumor erupted on Saturday morning that Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian was entertaining the idea of the Tennessee Titans? It was reported by Diana Rossini at the athletic, and it was shot down within, I'd say, what, hour and a half, two hours by CAA and Sarkisian.

But in that two hours, let me just tell you, those were some texts coming in that I definitely read. And the question was, is this real? this real, would he do it? And it keeps coming back to lifestyle. Like, he's not apparently actually going to do it, if his denial is to be to believed. But NIO and Transfer Portal has made that job. I just, unless you're a huge, great corporate delegator at this point, and you have an awesome staff under you, being an NFL coach is so much easier than being a college coach.

Such a better life. You know, I don't, I don't know. I wouldn't grudge Sarkesian if he wanted to do that. I don't know about more leeway. Your job, well, both of them are in that two-to-three-year range now. It's like English Premier League managers. You know, it's quick now. It is a lot of them.

But, I mean, what you got going for you in college is the buyouts. Those buyouts are amazing. True. Right? But guys don't go play for Nick Saban. They pay $5 million not to work. They go play for money. You know what I'm saying?

they don't go play for Land Kiffin and do you think that those buyouts are going to go down at all I mean like we're getting into some pretty crazy money where people I mean like multiple buyouts of like tens of millions of dollars

are you know schools are paying these to multiple coaches I have to think these buyouts are going to start you know getting a little yeah I mean well Lane Kiffin's going to be as big a buyout as he wants he has very little competition

It's him and Matt Rule, you know? Right now, I mean, who else is in the running? And if you've got five jobs competing for two dudes, get ready to pay a big buyout if you fire him. All right. One other story in final takes, Tinfoil Pat, you really like this. This comes from our friends over at FS1 slash Barstool. That's right. So Brandon Walker at Barstool, he's a massive Mississippi State fan, and he was extremely excited.

as they were up a bit of, I believe, 17. He walked out of the press box and down onto the field, preparing to celebrate, and he just happened to be right there at the catch, quote unquote. And it just completely ripped his heart out. This has been all over the internet. It's all anyone's talking about, really. It's amazing that they have behind the scenes video.

He's so pumped up, as you would be. In the fourth quarter, they're up, was it 17? or 18. I can't remember the exact. 17, I guess. And they were up 17. I mean, everybody, these are the texts I'm also reading was like, we're terrible. We're an awful football team, Texas, this and that. And then improbably Texas comes back. Their best player, their punt returner, again returns a punt for a touchdown, like he did against Oklahoma, like he did almost against Kentucky, setting them up to win. He does it again. And in overtime, the backup quarterback because Arch took a big hit to the head. Backup quarterback comes in for one play,

throws a touchdown to Emmett Mosley. It's real, real edgy on one not. It was a touchdown. It was, by the way. I legitimately think he caught that, got that foot down. And as you can see, if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, he catches it literally right in front of Brendan Walker, who had walked down onto the field. He's standing in the end zone right there in both of these photos to see Mississippi State lose to Texas in overtime. It is. Amazing. It's a good story. It's funny.

There's a great There's a great editorialized video out there, so go check it out on the internet because it's pretty long, but you know, it's really, really funny, just watching the video of him getting his heart ripped out.

One more thing about football. Everybody likes... Go ahead. No, I was going to say, just before we end the show, Bronco is real good because the Cowboys, you know, it's tough. Yeah. Cowboys' defense is horrific. It's real bad.

44 points. Yeah. Cowboys, watch Cowboys score 40 next week and win. This is who the Cowboys are, right? The offense is legitimately good. I know they only scored 24 yesterday. Dak had the first bad days had in a month. And Cowboys are going to lose that game.

They may win next week, you know, because they score 40. they win 40 to 37 and this is what it's going to look like on our way to a what is it a 7 and 10 record or no we've already tied a game so 7 9 and 1 record that's who that's who that's they are to the cowboys are I don't think the broncos are that good all right that's going to do it for us today here on will cane country we're back again tomorrow same time same place spot apple will cane country on youtube we'll see you again next time Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime members. You can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon Music app.