Will Cain Country - AOC and MTG battle in Congress! PLUS, the latest on Michael Cohen's testimony

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

Story #1: Michael Cohen is a convicted liar. He’s admitted to hating former President Donald Trump, and he has now admitted to stealing from Donald Trump. Story #2: There was a figurative street fig...ht in Congress! You have to hear the audio of the battle between Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Rep. Jasmine Crockett. Does it remind you of our esteemed Founding Fathers? A conversation with the Host of Spaces With Josie on ‘X’, Josie (The Redheaded libertarian). Story #3: Will is at the top of the mountain right now. This might be as good as it gets in sports but it comes with a cost.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com   Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show!   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:22 you'll know just how healthy they are. Visit Spexsavers.cavers.cai to book your next eye exam. Eye exams provided by independent optometrists. One, Michael Cohen is a convicted liar. He's admitted to hating Donald Trump. And as of this morning now, he's admitted to stealing from Donald Trump. Two, street fight in Congress. You have to hear the audio of the street fight.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Between AOC, Marjorie Taylor Green and Jazz. Crockett. It will remind you of the esteemed founding fathers. A conversation with the red-headed libertarian, Josie. And three, I might be at the top of the mountain right now. This might be as good as it gets
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Starting point is 00:02:01 This might be as good as it gets. I'm going to have to explore if it's ever been better for me as a fan of sports largely in Dallas. I've got two teams in the Western Conference finals. I had a college football team and the college football playoff. And you kind of combine that with my other favorite activity, which might be, you know, outdoorsmanship and country music and just generally being a redneck. I had a big week in sports, and I got to see Morgan Wallin. I went to the Academy of Country Music Awards, and it all came with the cost. Two days, Dan, young establishment, James Tinfoil Pat, if I said to you, hey, I'm going to say a couple of words, and you tell me what this brings to mind.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Extreme sports, surf, fish, what does that all add up to you? If I combine those words together, what do you think of? ESPN 2. Spike TV. The Man Channel. Okay. Okay. Me too.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Now, I was operating on two nights of four hours sleep. So when I went to the Academy of Country Music Awards on Thursday, and I had to get up early on Friday morning to play pickleball with Kid Rock on television. And Gracie Hunt and former Miss Universe. So four, four and a half hour sleep. Then, doubled down on Friday night, go to the Morgan Wallin concert. It was fun. A bunch of us from Fox, Rachel and Sean Duffy, Brian Kill Me, Dana Perino.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It was a good time. It was a muscle through on the power of Zen. But it put me into a position of another four-hour night sleep. So by the time I got to Saturday morning, I'm doing an interview with a guy that caught a 12-foot tiger shark, right? And he caught it, and he set some kind of record. He's caught numerous fish. And, you know, I get a little packet when I do television, and I'm reading in the packet, surf, fish.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And my last question to him is, man, I got to hear more about this. Like, how do you combine surfing and fishing? Right? Like you guys. Yeah, how does that work? Right. I've heard of paddleboarding and fishing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 ESP and the Ocho. I'm thinking of all this stuff that you guys are thinking of, right? When I'm operating on eight hours sleep over two nights. It didn't take long for the viewers to say, Will, you are a dumbass. Fishing from the beach is called surf fishing, and he tolerated me, and he didn't out me as a dumbass. But, again, leaning into the whole brand, here's Will in his Western shirt, you know, and he knows about outdoorsmanship. I mean, among the most embarrassing things, I've done many embarrassing things on television, they don't bother me. This one bothered me.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Of course, fishing from the beach is surf fishing, and I'm going to blame it on the fact that it was eight hours sleep over two nights. so you all know at home what surf fishing is and now so do i it's fishing from the surf not on a surfboard let's get into it because we have a fascinating interview today one of my favorite follows on x is the redheaded libertarian she's going to be joining us in just a moment for i mean some of the best stuff you ever heard out of congress but i'm going to suspect that josie's opinion is not unlike mine hey this is thomas jefferson versus james Madison. You got to hear this audio between Marjorie Taylor Green, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett. But let us start with story number one. Michael Cohen is once again on the stand against Donald Trump. Over the past
Starting point is 00:05:38 week, it has been established through cross-examination that Michael Cohen hates Donald Trump. The defense has established a motivation, at least in part. Michael Cohen's posted TikTok videos, They've been made aware to the jury. Everyone at home who's on social media can see him talking about, oh, Alvin Bragg has done such a service here. I can't wait to see Donald Trump in jail. These aren't the sober-minded thoughts. It's not the testimony of someone simply seeking justice. It is a motivated individual who has emotional attachment to, like, I don't know, I guess, at this point, 50% of the population to seeing Donald Trump, quote, unquote, behind bars.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Well, that calls into question the credibility of Michael Cohen. Combine that with the fact that it's been established as well, that he's just an untrustworthy liar. I mean, he's been convicted of perjury. He's lied before Congress. He's violated the oath of a court and saying he wouldn't follow the instructions of a judge when it comes to Donald Trump. So why should we suspect or believe that he's going to follow the oath to tell the truth on the stand in this trial? He's lied on numerous occasions in multiple venues who has a motivation that he hates Donald Trump. But add to that, liar, hater, now thief when it comes to Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:59 This morning, the defense attorneys with Michael Cohen on the stand established that Cohen, and this is somewhat complicated, but I think we can all follow through with this. The allegation is that Cohen was an attorney on retainer, and he was paid a certain amount as that attorney. How those expenses were then distributed from Michael Cohen is the issue. Was it with the knowledge of Donald Trump directly to reimburse him for a non-disclosure agreement with Stormy Daniels, or was it understood to be just part of general legal services? Well, Cohen testified the following, that he...
Starting point is 00:07:41 He made that $50,000 was owed to a company owned by Michael Cohen, Redfinch. Michael Cohen paid Redfinch $20,000 of the $50,000. He then turns to the Trump organization and says, you still owe Redfinch $50,000. So because there's a agreement between the Trump organization's accountant, Adam Weisselberg, to gross up what Cohen is owed. That means take whatever he is owed, gross it up for taxes so that whatever he gets in the end after paying taxes is equal to the arrangement. Because they gross up what he is owed, Cohen essentially steals an extra $30,000.
Starting point is 00:08:34 grossed up, doubled an extra $60,000 from the Trump organization without paying that on to Redfinch. Without the Trump organization knowing that he's essentially disbursed that debt from Redfinch, he steals $60,000 from Trump. That's just not my description of a somewhat complicated legal affair. It's the testimony of Michael Cohen. One of the defense attorneys Blanche, and this is from the notes coming from people inside the overflow room in the courtroom who report for Fox. Blanche asked Cohen if he lied to Weisselberg about the money owed because of Redfinch. Cohen testifies correct. Then Blanche presses, you did steal from the
Starting point is 00:09:18 Trump organization based upon expected reimbursements from Redfinch. Cohen says, yes, sir. As of today, he testifies. He lied, once again, this time to the Trump organization. And, and he says, and And he stole $60,000 from the Trump organization. If you listen to CNN or MSNBC, you are going to get a certain picture of how this trial is going, the testimony of Michael Cohen. And that picture will be that within a matter of weeks, Donald Trump could be in jail. By the way, arguments or testimony cross-examination should end this week, closing arguments early next week for their fever. could possibly mean that as early as next week, Donald Trump, behind bars. When we went to the Morgan Wallin concert on Friday, it was a sprinter van full of, as I said,
Starting point is 00:10:17 Dana Perino, me, the Duffies, Judge Gene Piro, Lawrence Jones was in there. And, you know, I did ask Judge Janine, who spent some time in the courtroom, hey, do you think, having been in there that we're in an echo chamber, that we're getting legal experts, or getting analysts, or telling us that it's going a certain way, and that if you are someone reporting for CNN, you can credibly hear that it's going another way. Now, hell no, no rational person could sit in there and say that this has gone well from Michael Cohen, Judge Jeanine Piro. I do wonder about the state of mind of 12 jurors from New York.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Paul Murrow, a former investigator and who is an expert on crime and legal issues for Fox, said he is worried that jury sees this not through the lens of the Wall Street Journal, but they see it through the lens of the New York Times. And that's the final analysis. How does the emotional impact of 12 people who have a preconceived bias impact facts and evidence and color justice? We won't know the answer to that question until they return from deliberation. But right now, the star witness for the prosecution has admitted to being a liar, to hating Donald Trump, and to stealing from Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:45 You have to hear this audio. It's truly entertaining. It's embarrassing. But is it just part of a great American tradition? You got to hear AOC versus MTG versus Jasmine Crockett. That with the red-headed libertarian coming up next on the Will Cain Show. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size? Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget.
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Starting point is 00:12:39 Thank you for taking the quiz. Girl, baby, girl. You bleach blonde, butch body. what now testimony the best you've ever heard from congress it's the will cane show streaming live at fox news dot com on the fox news youtube channel just hit subscribe leave a comment join our community jump here into the will cane show and on demand an audio format by hitting subscribe at apple or on spotify this video this audio this interaction it's gold and who better to analyze it with than the red-headed libertarian.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Josie, the red-headed libertarian, you can find her on X at T-R-H-L official. She hosts Spaces with Josie on X. She's also part of the Tim Cass Network, joins us now on the Will Kane Show. Josie, it's nice to meet you, nice to have you on the Will Kane show. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you for having me, Will. I enjoy your content. I follow you on X, and I thought you're a pretty good person to go ahead and give me some
Starting point is 00:13:51 commentary on what might go down as a Jeffersonian versus Adams exchange in Congress. So let's clue the audience in on what went down first with Marjorie Taylor to Green and then the voice of AOC here last week in Congress. Listen. Do you know what we're here for? You know we're here about AG. I don't think you know what you're here for. Well, you don't want to talking about I think your fake eyelashes are messing up. No, I ain't nothing. Hold on, hold on. This is. Order, Mr. Chairman, would you order, that's beneath even you. I do have a point of order, and I would
Starting point is 00:14:25 like to move to take down Ms. Green's words. That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you attack the physical appearance of another person. Move her words down. Oh, girl, baby girl. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Don't even play. Baby, girl, I don't think of that. We are going to move, and we're going to take your words down. I second that motion. So who will have to? Ms. Green agrees to strike her words. I believe she's apologizing. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Okay, hold on. Then after Mr. Perry is going to be recognized, then Ms. I'm not apologizing. Well, then, you're not straight to your word. I am not apologizing. Hello, Scott. Come on, guys. Okay, girl, baby, girl.
Starting point is 00:15:10 My favorite part, Josie, actually might be that the minute Marjor Taylor Green says maybe your eyelashes have gotten in the way, all the men, almost like, at a Tom Brady roast. Oh, immediately everyone realized, oh, here we go. What do you think, Josie? There were highlights of that. I watched them on a loop because they were just so incredible to me.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But like you had said about Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, fighting in Congress goes back to the inception of America. They had their grand fight in the newspapers. there were fights in Congress, they attacked each other. They almost didn't make our country based off the Connecticut compromise that nobody could agree on. So my opinion is let them fight. This is American to fight.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I mean, I wish there were smarter people fighting. So Jasmine Crockett is not the brightest person. But the other thing about her is that whole kind of ghetto ratchet accent she puts on is actually fake. I went back and I found an interview from her from when she started in or before when she was running for Congress. All right. So it's like two years ago. And her, she's very well educated. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 She's not very bright, but still had an education. She was privileged. She had an education. And she has a normal voice. But then when she goes on to Congress and she wants to get. these sound bites, she does this kind of ghetto sort of accent. And it's fake. It's completely fake. So I thought that that was interesting when I was kind of looking into her and what she did. And then I started looking into her as a lawyer and some of the things that she said. And I realized
Starting point is 00:17:09 she doesn't know anything about the U.S. Constitution. So I have no idea how she got as far as she did by having no idea what she's talking about. Well, and I saw some of your videos, by the way, breaking down the Constitution. And you, as I am, by the way, are fascinated with the Constitution. But I actually think that makes you and me the outlier, not Jasmine Crockett. I don't think many members of Congress
Starting point is 00:17:32 probably truly understand the limitation of their powers or even care to understand the Constitution. What I wonder if is an outlier, Josie, is the acting. Like, you point out Jasmine Crockett's, you know, street accent that she puts on. in Congress. And, by the way, you heard it there from AOC as well. You know, girl, baby, girl. And I think AOC was raised in Westchester, you know, and I don't know if she's privately school-educated, but she's not who she's pretending to be there on, interestingly, not on the streets, but on the floor of Congress.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And it got me thinking, like, I don't know how many politicians. I don't think as many as I suspect are former drama kids. But, like, it got me thinking, like, acting. Like, how much of this, and I don't mean positionally and policy-wise, Josie. Like, I mean, politicians across the aisle, regardless of political party, feign passion on different issues, and even fake positions on issues. But I wonder how many are actually acting. You know, I think about Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. They've done black accents in front of black audiences, you know? And I just wondered, like, how many of these politicians feel comfortable acting? Because I think you're right. What we saw, what we see from Crockett and what we saw from AOC, that's drama. That's acting.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yes. What I had seen from Jasmine Crockett when I had analyzed her video about the Constitution, she was talking about the border. She was talking about how Governor Abbott doesn't have any right to make laws that supersede the Constitution about the border. And she said this in three or four different ways in this little TikTok video. She was being interviewed by MSNBC. I think. It was one of the corporate press. And so I realized what she was saying, she was citing the supremacy laws, which says that a governor can't make a law that supersedes the Constitution, which is correct. However, he was just trying to enforce the Constitution with a rule that already exists. Article 4, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution says that when the states are being invaded, it is the federal
Starting point is 00:19:36 government's job to protect them. And if they're failing to do that, which they are, then that falls to the states and to the people under the 10th Amendment. And she was completely ignoring this and telling people that he's trying to create rules. He's trying to make laws that don't exist. And I don't know if she has any, if she's ever read the Constitution, as I have, as you have, it really seemed to come from a place of ignorance or a talking point that she was handed or something she didn't quite understand. Yeah. I want to share with the audience a video. This is not your video and people can go find you on on X, the right head libertarian, to see you kind of providing a constitutional rebuttal. But I want to give another
Starting point is 00:20:23 example from that moment in Congress where you talk about, you know, her acting and her accent because we heard mostly from AOC in response to Marjorie Taylor Green there. But this is the rebuttal from Jasmine Crockett. Listen to this. Why don't you debate me? Mr. Chairman, I think it's pretty self-evident. You're not, you're out of order. You don't have enough intelligence. Care recognizes Mr. Perry. Okay, move to strike to. I'd like to strike those words as well.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I move to strike. Move to strike the ladies' words again. That's two requests to strike. That's two requests to strike. Oh, they cannot take the words. There's another motion to strike her words again. Please get your members under control. The correct apology.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Ms. Green, do you agree to unanimous consent to strike your words? I repeat again for the second time. Yes, I'll shake my words, but I'm not apologizing. Without objection. Without objection. Mr. Chair, point of order. It's me.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Ms. Crockett. I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleached blind, bad-built, butch body that would not be engaging in personalities, correct? A what now? chairman i make a motion to strike those words i don't think that's a line i'm trying to find clarification on what quality i didn't i have no idea what you just said comer's the star of that by the way a what now
Starting point is 00:21:55 it's it's it's it's amazing it's it's absolutely amazing audio that's that's brilliant um i i just i kept just rewatching that i just thought it was it was so funny it took me a while to figure out what she was addressing like i was like did somebody say that to her or is she making that up she was making that up so she actually jasmine crockett who actually blocked me this morning is that legal i don't know but she uh she made um she's she's releasing a clothing line with all of her clapbacks all right and that's it's one of them so this this uh She releases a picture with the shirt that says bleach, blonde, butch, bad body, or whatever. And under it, it says Crockett clapbacks, and she spelled her own name wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I saw that. Yeah. R-O-C-R-C-R-T-T. And somebody was like, what does that mean? And she goes, you're just going to have to buy it and see. And I don't think she realized that she spelled her name wrong. But we're not dealing with the brightest. No, not bright.
Starting point is 00:23:05 also just not real. And that's what I keep coming back to. Okay, look, I always try to put myself in a check, Josian, the stuff like, don't be a partisan. But I want to go back to that acting thing for a minute. I definitely think we can come up with examples of Republicans who don't believe positions that they advocate and fame, passion, and anger. I can't, and I'll rely on you if you can. I can't come up with the Republican politician that does fake accents and fake personas. You know what I mean? And I'm willing, if I'm I'm forgetting it, audience, drop it into the comments of YouTube or Facebook, because I want to be real. I want to be honest.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I don't want to be partisan. I want to be correct. But this seems to be a privilege of Democrats to kind of put on this drama persona, unless I'm forgetting some Republican, Josie. I can't think of any at all. Any accent is organic, like Thomas Massey and Rand Paul are Kentucky, and they sound like they're from Kentucky. And when they speak to anybody else, they don't mirror them. mirroring is something that narcissists do. And I think that a lot of people who get into power, as George Washington said in this
Starting point is 00:24:13 farewell address occupants of public office, love power and are prone to abuse it. And I mean, a way to do that is divide and conquer, as we see the most, but also it's to manipulate. And so Democrats, when they get into power, and, you know, the Uniparty does this too. It is both sides that do this, but it's primarily in Democrats where they're going to mirror people that they think that they can have some effect on or have some power over. And that's minorities, you know, so they'll go into it and be like, I'm just like you, you know, and they're not. They're narcissists. So we don't, we don't really see people who, and I want to be careful
Starting point is 00:24:53 with my words because I'm, I'm a libertarian. I don't favor someone over another. I'm not a big fan of Republicans, but I hate the Democrats. So I want to be careful with how I would say that, but I can't think of really a single redeeming Democrat that doesn't do that. That isn't in this for power and money. And I think that that kind of speaks to how they abuse the positions that they're in. One last point in this video. I agree with you on something. Look, these two, These three are not Jefferson and Adams, but this fight is not what makes them less than Jefferson and Adams. This is part of the American tradition.
Starting point is 00:25:40 What makes them less than Jefferson Adams is their intellect and their effectiveness. I got in this debate over the weekend with some of my Fox friends, like the role of etiquette. I'm actually not big on etiquette, you know. I don't care. I don't look at Washington, D.C. is this esteemed hall of prestige. what I would like it to be is a place of accomplishment and principle and philosophy and understanding power. And I'll say to all three of these individuals, set aside etiquette. I just don't think it's effective. Like what you're doing, it's not working. I don't, I don't think
Starting point is 00:26:15 it's accomplishing any productive job. And again, it's not because you broke etiquette. It's just because, like, the substance of what you're contributing is so, so lacking. It's just nothing at least jefferson adams knew knew something about a founding of a country they were they were brilliant too they were geniuses founded our country um we're not dealing with geniuses we're dealing with midwit intelligence who think that they're smarter than they actually are and those are the most dangerous IQ of all so um so yes i agree with you well i want to go into something you just said i found fascinating so you said that's mirroring that's a narcissistic personality reflection. So I want to move to Harrison Butker, the Kansas City Chiefs
Starting point is 00:27:02 Kicker, who gave a speech to Benedictine Catholic College, and he talked about the valuable role of being a mother, of being a wife. He said that he believes that women have been sold alive for probably half a century, that the most accomplished thing you can do in this world is to venture into careerism, to essentially follow the feminist path into doing what men have done, which is march off to work. bring home the bacon. That's the most productive life. He said it's not. Being a mother, being a wife is a much more fulfilling role in life. I found it utterly uncontroversial, but also rare and insightful. And it's not to say that women can't and shouldn't and don't
Starting point is 00:27:46 often pursue successful careers. It's like it's just, hey, let's not forget the most valuable contribution to society, which is raising a generation. I want to play for you a clip from NBC Sports Boston. Now, Harrison Bucker was crushed across the landscape of mainstream outlets. And of course, that was going to happen in sports. But I think the strongest clip came from NBC Sports Boston. Listen to this. Contrary to what some may think, I actually strongly believe in free speech and the right
Starting point is 00:28:15 to hold opinions that are different from my own. I also believe there are consequences for speaking out. But what I really believe is there is a big difference between an opinion and dehumanizing hateful speech. I am so tired of people telling those of us at the center of these dehumanizing rants that we need to respect everyone's opinion. No, we don't, and we don't have to tolerate it either. You are allowed to think differently than others. You are not allowed to go out of your way to belittle, degrade, and depict groups that don't look like you as subhuman. That's not an opinion that is hate, plain, and simple. Josie, the best I can tell, dehumanizing,
Starting point is 00:28:56 Subhuman, she is accusing Bucker of that because he said that Pride Month reflected a sin, which again is utterly uncontroversial in the world of Christianity at large, Catholicism, even more so. And then he is a, I don't, I don't, I'm not Catholic, so I don't know the correct terminology, but he is Latin mass, strict Catholic. And he basically said living a lifestyle reflected in Pride Month is a sin. And that is what warranted that from NBC Sports Boston. So that woman made, I think, three points that were completely wrong and completely contradictory. She said he was talking to her, which he wasn't. He was a Catholic talking to Catholics at Catholic College. She said she loves free speech, but not speech she disagrees with, which then you don't love free speech.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You know, that's the thing about free speech is you have to protect the stuff that you really hate. that's that's the stuff that you have to fight for or you don't believe in free speech and that means all the stuff that you see is hateful and i'm catholic as you can see cabrini um is a poster on my wall right now um so i was born raised catholic i believe he's orthodox catholic which is going to the latin mass which is something i didn't do i'm irish catholic uh so so what um i'm sorry i lost my train of thought Well, you made a Rick Perry mistake. You said there was three things she said. So don't make a Rick Perry mistake. Never make three points. You can always get two, and that third one's a roll of the adice. I'm like, I lost it.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's gone. I can't remember it was so unimportant and unoriginal what she said, that it just escaped my mind. But why he was attacked so hard is he spoke against the anti-human orthodoxy. And he was moved to tears praising his wife. She uses rock. You know, she raised the children. She's the primary caregiver. She homeschools.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And he was just, like, he had to stop talking so he could gather himself. This is not a man who thinks women are not important. I mean, I can't think of times where people have done that about women who are working. You know, like, this is something he feels so valuable about that. And then he went on to tell men to be unapologetic about their masculinity. And he was speaking against the cultural emasculation of men. And this is another cardinal sin of wokeness is, and he was explaining why it's so dangerous, which is something they don't want you to know. It's important to have fathers in the home.
Starting point is 00:31:31 It's one of the things that keeps children out of jail statistically. And it keeps them happy. And it shows they need that kind of masculine figure. There's a study that's done. And it was people who are in jail, how they were raised, right? 80% are in jail were raised by a single mother, right? You have the same chance of going to jail if you were raised by a single father or if you were raised by a mother and a father. Because being raised by a father, these are young men.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Being raised by a father, you're taught stoicism. You're taught to deal with your feelings stoically. You're not taught to use your emotions and your fists to solve a problem. You're told to have patience. and they don't they don't want that they don't want people to know that they don't want you to know that if you're living for somebody else then you don't have time to be sick and depressed and fat and lonely and medicated and a victim and they're not able to to have power over you if you're living for somebody else because you want to have as much power as you can
Starting point is 00:32:44 to be able to give them the best life that you can. That's fascinating about single fathers. And I mean, I believe what you're talking about with stochism. You know, when I segued into this conversation, I said, I picked up on you talking about narcissism and mirroring in politics, and particularly among Democrats. I know you studied or you were set to study psychiatry at some point in your life. And one of the things I've seen you tweet about that I find fascinating.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And when you first said it, I was like, is this a real thing? What is this? like you started talking about like cluster B personalities and I think you talked about it largely within the context of trans the trans issue and how many you know there's studies on like trans kids and the personality types of the kids that is a commonality meaning there's higher incidences of somewhere on the autism spectrum a whole host of other personality types but what was more fascinating to me was the personality types of the mothers of trans kids and that you were saying that a ton of Cluster B personalities,
Starting point is 00:33:44 like what is a Cluster B personality? That's narcissism, that's bipolar, that's histrionic personalities. That's where a mother puts her own needs before her child uses a child as a prop. A Munchausman's biproxy is like a symptom that falls within there. So 60% of boys who are trans kids. have a mother with a cluster ofy personality disorder, 60%. Wow. The numbers, I'm so passionate about this because I raised a tomboy in Massachusetts before moving to Florida,
Starting point is 00:34:25 and I saw the way they were kind of coming for her, you know. So the children that they target, and you need to think about this because it's alarming when you realize what changing a gender does. sterilizing a child, okay? They target gay children, foster children, indigenous children, children who are lonely or looking for a community, and they target, the autism is crazy, it's something like 80% of girls, right? And so these are the people that they also want sterilized.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And at the same time, we know that there's an unhuman orthodoxy that we're dealing with on top of this. So they're trying to depopulate and they're trying to sterilize the children, migrant children, that's another one that's targeted. They're trying to sterilize the children who are less desirable in ways. So that's something to really, that should alarm people when they realize who is, who is targeted by this. And that would be fascinating to, as you said, like see trans boys in the connection to the mothers and then I think with trans girls it's a real social contagion phenomenon it's a trend phenomenon where the girls kind of it goes in I mean I think Abigail Shriar wrote about this right it's like it goes in clusters in towns or schools
Starting point is 00:35:54 when it comes to girls but I'd be really curious what boys like you just said what'd you say 60% cluster B moms yeah it's moms who probably always wanted a daughter and boys who want to please their mom's mom's boys um with girls they so so tomboys okay for instance i'm raising a tomboy and they tend to outgrow it around puberty they tend to kind of become more girly which my tomboy did so they aren't they don't kind of go toward that i think i might be a boy thing they're pushed toward that socially they're told oh you dress like this have you thought maybe you're a lesbian oh you dress like this have you thought maybe you're a boy And that's alarming.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Maybe you're a they-them. Maybe you don't know what you are. Maybe you're questioning. And so it's put into the heads of girls, whereas with boys, it seems to be put into their heads by their mothers and like a reward system. You know, so why would like every time they make mom happy, it's because they're, oh, I'm wearing mom's dress and her lipstick and this she's so happy. And, you know, because it's like cluster B personality.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's like the newest bag, right? It's really fashionable right now to have a trans kid. You get a woke point. You are original. You can go to the rallies. Everybody looks at you like you are special and you are brave because you are raising a trans kid. And it tends to be mothers who trans their sons into girls. Well, finally, taking this back to Harrison Buckker, because the launching point was a cluster B.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I find a lot of that kind of mindset, that narcissistic mindset, not just in politicians, who mirror accents, but in media members who think that he's somehow degrading women when I heard you use the term, and I certainly believe he's actually elevating women. Like this is a thing where you're celebrating like one of the most essential roles throughout the history of humanity, you know, in civilization and saying, hey, women, you have something that you can do that no man can do. And it is so integral and should be celebrated. And if, and by all means you should feel fulfilled raising the next generation. Finally, I want to talk to you about Joe Biden. gave speeches this weekend. He was at Morehouse College. He was also in Detroit. All kinds of
Starting point is 00:38:10 stuff came out of those. He called January 6th there's Erectionists, which is, I don't know, I guess that's better than insurrectionists to be an erectionist. He also, he said that George Floyd was murdered and that if you're a black man, you know, the country doesn't love you. But I think maybe the most important thing that he said in terms of electoral prospects is he said, was vice president when the pandemic started and Barack Obama sent me to Detroit to work with the mayor. We're not even talking about a close timeline here, Josie. And when I see that and him saying that, you know, I know we had the announcement of the two debates last week. And then of course, there's the rules, you know, no crowd. Mike's turned down during one. I don't know
Starting point is 00:38:54 any rules can save Joe Biden. I don't know how he debates. And if he can't debate, I don't know how he remains the candidate for president. Donald Trump was saying that he wanted to make sure that Joe Biden had a drug test, which I agree with, because there's no way he's done the state of the union sober, like he is. His eyes are bugged out. He doesn't blink. They know he's sick and they get him all hyped up on something, some kind of amphetamines, just get him through the next speech. You know, like they, what we're seeing is a very sick man being exploited. And the thing is, this is great for the deep state. They can completely control him. He can do what, ever they tell him to do, and he slips up every now and then because he's senile, but they're able to completely control this man and have their way and do their will while he is the face of it. So they'd like him to be the nominee, but it's coming to a point where he's having a lot more slip-ups. It's more obvious that he's not the one in charge of our country, and we look weak on a national or on a geopolitical scale because we have, you know, Russia is getting bolder and
Starting point is 00:40:08 China is getting bolder. And I mean, they were just together, the G and Putin with their having a meeting and they both had their men with the nuclear, with their footballs and in their cases right behind them. And that was a show of power, you know. So they know that we're not being run by a president that our system is broken and it's been infiltrated. And, Everybody's aware of that. So they don't know how long they can keep the facade up and they need to get somebody else in there that they can completely control, if not Joe Biden. But right now he's the easiest thing because there's no pushback. Do you think they will?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Do you think Democrats will replace Joe Biden? I had predicted last year in February that they were going to replace him with Gavin Newsom, but they really wanted to see Gavin Newsom go up against Ron DeSantis. And we saw that. We saw them debate each other and stuff. And that was something they wanted to see that. dynamic because Gavin Newsom is charming and Ron DeSantis is kind of autistic. So there was a balance where he was going to look better. But now it be him up against Donald Trump, who is charming,
Starting point is 00:41:15 who has those qualities. So honestly, I know they don't want Kamala in there because she's even worse when it comes to slip up somehow and she's not even senile. I guess it'll be, I mean, you don't want to think anything bad's going to have. happen. But I think, you know, something might have to happen because he's convinced he's going to run another term in it. He's the candidate. I'm sure they've done up the ballots and he's on them. I'm just not, I'm just not sure what's going to happen. I assume they're just going to go through for another four years and maybe he'll pass away in office or maybe they'll take him out and put Kamala in or I don't know. It's short termism to think, oh, how does he debate? How does he stick through an election? The real question is, how does he serve another four years as president? is it? Like, that's, that's, that's the impossibility that's hard to imagine. I think he just want to- Well, you can check Josie out again. Go ahead. I think they just want to get him in there and then figure it out after.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I think they just don't want Trump in. They want to get him in, and then we'll cross that bridge after in the four years. And then the powers that be can honestly continue to do what they're already doing, maintain control in Washington, D.C. T.R. H.L. official, the red-headed libertarian on X, also host of spaces with Josie on X and a part of the Timcast Network. I really have enjoyed. I'm glad to have the Redhead Libertarian. Glad to have you on, Josie. Thank you so much for being on the Will Cain Show. Thank you so much for having me, Will. All right, hope to do it again. You guys have jumped into
Starting point is 00:42:47 the comment section on YouTube regarding that conversation and some of the questions we brought up. Here is Harold Richard. The high school mean girls crap in today's political climate is an embarrassment. Tambri says sad how unprofessional Congress is. And then Wanamora says, most people in government agencies at this time don't seem to know the Constitution, rule of law, or how the democracy, this democracy worked. Or better to say, how this republic works. I totally agree. And I don't think that not only are they ignorant, they don't care about their ignorance of how this works, the Republic of the United States. It doesn't get much better than this for me.
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Starting point is 00:44:44 I happen to be a fan. If I'm allowed to leave the Greater Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, I happen to be a fan. Yes, they are the dynasty, so it is a bit of front-runner status. But I happen to be a fan of Manchester City, who just won their fourth Premier League title in a row. And then there's the Dallas Cowboys, 12 and 5 for three straight seasons, and that's the end of that. somebody sent me one of those pictures of the like the special forces guys I'm about to come around a corner you know and there's like four special forces guys and it's like over each of the special forces guys is like mavs stars horns
Starting point is 00:45:21 rangers and in the middle of the lineup as they're about to come around the corner is a clown and it says cowboys thought it was pretty good because it's a little hard to not think the cowboys getting blown out by the green bay packers in the first round of the playoffs doesn't undercut all the rest of those but those are titles we're talking about about here. That's final four we're talking about here. And although we did a subject, we did a topic on who has it best city-wise, and the run for Boston from, you know, what, 0-2 through, I don't know, when did it end? 18, 19, 20? It's about as good as it gets. But I mean, in one year, all your sports franchises, two a day's Dan, young establishment,
Starting point is 00:46:03 James, tinfoil pat, in one year, I don't know. This might, right now it feels like I can say this if both the stars and the MAVs lose in the conference finals, it'll be hard to look back on it. But this is all you can ask. You can't ask for titles. You can just ask for runs like this. And that makes your year as a sports fan.
Starting point is 00:46:23 So I don't know who's ever had it better. I don't know. Well, as a New York everything fan pretty much, I don't ask for titles either because I've learned not to and I've just gotten disappointed every time. So I'm done with that. So now I'm rooting for the MAVs, because the Knicks are out.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So I'm right behind you. You're rooting for the Mavs. I'm room for the Dallas Mavericks. One complaint real quick, if you don't mind. Luca Donchik complains a lot. Always throwing his hands up after every single play. A little LeBron-like, not a fan. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Trust me, it is so bad. And I actually started thinking about it. I try to step back because if Luke was on any other team doing this, I would hate him. I would. I mean, he's such a genius play. as you were texting us over the weekend, Dan, I know he's making you a fan of his style of play. I wonder if he uses that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Like, that's just what he uses to amp himself up. You know what I mean? Like, I started thinking about why he does it, because he does it so much that I began to wonder, does he need it? Does he need to sort of feel adversarial against the refs, and he just fights them all game long? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It comes off a little, like, ego. Like, I am the star in this game, and that's it. And I need the call. I need the right call. I know how basketball works, and you're wrong, I'm right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it comes off as star treatment like, hey, I think it comes off as like,
Starting point is 00:47:46 I know more than you. Like, that's a clear foul, right? Or that's not a clear foul. And the truth is, he may know more than those refs because they are incredibly unimpressive. True. Tinfoil, I saw you, you had something. What's up? I was just saying that Champa Bay had a pretty great run there with the Bucks and the Lightning,
Starting point is 00:48:04 both winning championships. I think the Lightning won back-to-back and then Tom Brady won. So that's pretty hard to do outside of Boston, just in one year. Boston still lost. I remember that run for Tampa. The Rays also went to the World Series
Starting point is 00:48:19 that year. 2020, the Mickey Mouse World Series. Good for Tampa Bay. Yeah, I've forgotten about that. By the way, do I get to add this for Dallas? Scotty Sheffler, you know, arrested. going into the PGA championships, arrested going into Valhalla
Starting point is 00:48:38 comes out. I facetiously put on social media. He's about to ride into Valhalla and destroy this course. And I put the overrinder at 65. He shot a 66 that day. I was joking. I was being a little facetious about to 65. He shot a 66
Starting point is 00:48:54 fresh out of the clink. You know, free Scotty signs. That's a feather in the capital. Struggle a little bit Saturday. Came back Sunday but, you know. good weekend not bad not bad the reports are now yeah i mean you're right about saturday but in the end not bad not a bad tournament after getting arrested um they've dropped charges uh the police have dropped charges apparently now against scotty sheffler as they should
Starting point is 00:49:22 that was absolutely absurd it's ridiculous wonder what happens um all right so i got a mavs fan on board I have got Wolves Mavs set up for the Western Crowns finals, which means Will Kane versus Pete Hegseth. And that's what I'm excited about. That's why I was pulling for the wolves yesterday. And Pete had the nerve to text me. He just tempted the fate of the gods and just said, I think we're going to roll you. He was not even talking trash. He was like, I'm so excited about this, but I think we're going to roll you.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And I'm like, you do you. I think the wolves will be favored. I'm not sure how the Mavs match up, all those big men they've got. and Anthony Edwards, but Will v. Pete, we'll do it right here on Off the Rails of the Will Cain Show. We'll be there for Fox and Friends. We'll do it on social media.
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