Will Cain Country - Are Trump-Friendly Podcasters Moving Left? (ft. Kayce Smith)

Episode Date: August 17, 2026

Socialism’s popularity continues to grow within the Democratic Party, and some of the Right’s most important recent figureheads are getting swept up with the wave. What’s really going on? Barstool’s Kayce Smith joins the program to help Will and The Crew work through why socialist ideas have caught on within the Right, before reacting to Rep. Nancy Mace’s (R-SC) bold new look. Plus, they take a look at Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey’s rigid dance routine at the Black Entrepreneur State Fair, and a 13-year-old Arizona boy charged with assault... for pelting his ex-girlfriend with dodgeballs during gym class. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Socialism at record levels. Acceptance with the Democrat Party, and it seems to be bleeding over into some of those popular figures that supported President Donald Trump. Today on Will Cain Country. It's Will Cain Country. He's streaming live with the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Will Cain Facebook page, but always here by following us at Spotify or on Apple. Tinfoil Pat. Casey Smith from Barstool, and he's back, Two a Days Dan, from his adventures in the Great White North. How far north into Canada were you?

Nova Scotia, baby. It took a while. And how white was it? It was, there's white caps in the water. Oh, that way. Okay. Yeah, well, we'll see. Oh, is that not what they mean?

No. When they say the Great White North? I don't think so. Not anymore. Yeah, I don't think you could say that. Ten years ago. It's more about the snow. There's a lot of snow and, you know, white cap mountains.

Snow. Oh, I see. Hmm. I didn't know. Were you guys getting nervous? Once again. What's up, Casey? Hi, it feels weird to be in New York doing the show after doing it with you in person all of July.

It feels strange. I know. I can't glare at you as much on this side of things. I do think we need to get you like a tether will, by the way. We'll just tether you to the... What does that mean? So like before the show starts, we'll have you. You can go about five feet away from...

No, I need a... an intercom. I'll just yell at them. Hey, come to the microphone, starting. Let's go. You freaked Justin out last week. I looked at the clock. It said, it said 59. And then I walked in here, and it looks like I was 30 seconds late into the show. And I was like, oh, well, I got a new phone. And I don't know. Maybe it's not right the timing on my new phone. We're having trouble with text messages. Getting a new phone is one of the most stressful things in the world for me. Like, If you ranked things, am I alone? I feel like it's gotten a lot easier.

It used to be where you had to sit and sink it forever. Like you had to sit at the store or sit at your laptop. Now they can just sink right away. So that's not, I'm not stressed out anymore. I will tell you, Casey, I was pleasantly surprised by that. Yeah. Like I left the store. I'm like, that's it.

You're not going to do anything. You just hand me the phone in the box. And that's that. Yeah, you're good to go. You just put it next to your old phone and it just immediately sinks. It wasn't that long ago. I feel like in New York City, I had to sit at an AT&T store because they were having a hard time transferring all of my data over, and they had to do it like manually.

You know, that's that's old news now. My old phone was dead, dead dead. Like I could not boot my old phone. Oh, that's, yeah, that's stressful. But it did it from my, it did it from my iPad. I just set it next to my iPad and boom. Everything's in the cloud. It was good to go.

I guess so. I never, that happened to me once where my phone. There's something where you. What are you left with on your phone? pictures and texts. No, but even your texts are in the cloud. Contacts. Are your contacts in the cloud?

I think they are. They can be. Right? So really, any pictures that weren't backed up, it's only anything like pictures or contacts that you put in since the last backup. That's it. Right? That's it. Otherwise, you don't need to buy storage anymore.

Like, and that's not even a selling point. When I was in there and I was buying the new phone, you know, I'm still like, oh, do I need to get the one with the big stores? And he's like, they all have the same amount of storage now. Yeah. Like the cheap phone. Really? And the expensive phone. I didn't know that.

Yeah. They all were saying. That's not a sales point. But what happened? Because I always see, especially like moms of young kids being like, I've run out of space on my phone because I take so many photos of my kids. That's not a thing. Well, the reason I think they're not doing that, that's possible. But the theory is you're buying your space in the cloud now.

So if you're backing it up, you're running out of space and your plan that you have in the cloud. but there really shouldn't be anything just on the device anymore. It's kind of scary. Therefore, you don't need all this storage. He said all that matters, the difference is the processor on the phone and the number of cameras. Or quality of cameras. The camera is the big, is the main thing. I got less.

Yeah, I got less cameras because I wanted the pink phone. They were like, well, the pink doesn't come with three cameras. I don't need three cameras. I only need two. I want the pink phone. Really? Yeah. The color was that important?

Yeah, I wanted the pink, so I have like a clear background, but I mean, I feel like that's, that's good. I didn't need three cameras, Will, you should give me a prize for that. Like, you would think I would want more cameras. I don't. The difference is pretty staggering, though, through the three cameras. It's pretty insane. You can't buy a pink case for your phone. You can't. So it's damn near impossible. Patrick, please. So you know, you have to sacrifice to cameras. I like the idea of the phone itself being pink, okay? And I didn't need the third camera. Because who needs, who, yes, can you tell you? Well? Yeah. Today. Today I can. Today I can. Who? Influencers.

Well, I don't even know why there's three cameras on here. But Dan's right. It looks great. Because I had the two camera before. And my pictures were not as good looking as people with the three. And I don't care. I actually don't care that the picture is not this great is the person with the three. But I will say if you care, it is way better with whatever's going on here.

By the way, it says three, Dan, but then there's also, like, other stuff going on. There's a little thing over here and then a dot there. It's like five things in addition to the flashlight. Yeah, you could shoot like a decent-looking movie on that. Yeah, they have music videos for certain. I don't, I can't, off the top of my head, I don't know who the last musician was. There was a major musician that did that, that it was like the whole music video was shot on the iPhone. The baseball games on Apple TV now, like I was watching the Yankees on it.

They shoot half of it on an iPhone. It's insane. I just don't care I guess This whole industry is changing Yeah It's whole The whole industry is changing

Um The biggest thing with a new phone for me Is that it fits differently in my hand That's always like that's always my biggest thing Like when I get a new phone The adjustment of having to text With one hand or whatever that's That's my biggest complaint

That's the most 2026 first world problem complaint It's a big problem I just pulled off technology. I was very proud of you just there. I was too. I was watching. Did you see that? I'm so proud of himself.

I'm very proud of you. Yeah, yeah. Very proud of himself. What a moment. That's phenomenal. I was worried for two seconds. Oh, man, I got the new phone and I sent off like, I couldn't text. My phone crashed on Friday.

And I, and, okay, I know you're riveted. You're listening at home, but that's what you do. You hang out with this. Yeah. My phone crashed on Friday morning, right? I moved my son into college on Friday. So that's why I was off on Friday. So, yeah, I guess it's a clap, Dan.

It's a bittersweet clap. Yeah. It's a big moment for you. So we moved our son into college on Friday, but I woke up Friday morning and my phone was done. It's like it didn't charge overnight. I tried charging it every different box, every different cord, every different outlet.

I couldn't get it back to life. And I didn't have time. On Friday, I don't have time to go to a store. on Saturday, it didn't really either because I'm doing more moving stuff and I'm driving back to Dallas from Austin and so I just didn't have time until Sunday go get a new phone. That meant I went

48 hours, more than 48 hours without a phone. Now, I do have an iPad, but my iPad is not connected to the internet. So, I mean, it's not connected to the cell. I have no cell plan on my iPad. So it only does, you know, internet. And so when I would go back to my hotel

room, twice a day, I checked my texts. And I could text from my iPad, anybody that texted me. But what I'm getting at, long stretches of my day and night where I don't have any communication. That's so nice. And I know this sounds so trite and cliched. Fellas, lady, it was something else. I mean, there's a bit of a detox where you reach for your phone.

It's like a ghost arm. You reach for it. And then you stop. and my level of presence went up by the hour, by the hour. You know, I was with my younger son, and we went somewhere, I got some lunch and went to a store, and my wife went to Target, because that's what you do when you move a kid into college, you make multiple trips to Target on things that you find out along the way that they need. And my younger son and I were walking around, and we were just talking.

He goes, should we meet him at Target? And I go, I don't know where Target is. I didn't have a phone I didn't have a phone to look it up You don't have your map quest printed out You don't have the printed out directions From back in the day Now he had his phone

And I'm like don't look it up Let's just keep walking Let's just go this way You know and it felt so good And like walking at a leisurely pace Talking and not glancing in my phone I did I time traveled and let me tell you something

It was good back then. And I liked my own behavior in my own emotional state better with my son that I'm the younger one. Like I just, we laughed, we talked. It wasn't so, you know, here. That phone just puts it all right. I was that way last week too. I was completely unplugged. I didn't have an international plan.

So I couldn't use my phone. It was great. There's something about it though, because when you, it's like you used to be on airplanes. You just didn't have the option. You just couldn't get on Wi-Fi. So if you were on a plane, you knew you were unplugged, that's fine. But then when you're on a plane now and the Wi-Fi isn't working, it becomes stressful because people know you can be plugged in.

Does that make sense? It's like you used to have the excuse. Now you don't have the excuse. So when it's not working, it's more stressful than it should be. I hate that. I hate when there's Wi-Fi not working and I feel myself stressing out. Like, why can I not just sit here and read a book? Why do I need to be connected to the Wi-Fi?

our brains like have assimilated and by the way Casey I read I've been reading a book lately like literally a hardcover book and I would do that instead of go to the internet it's so it feels so good it really does it feels so different also reading hardcover books there's nothing that can ever I cannot have a reader I can't have a Kindle I can't have any of that I have to have the book in my hand it makes me feel like I'm actually reading So I know we've talked about this. It reminded me of our friend Charlie Kirk. And it was the book that he wrote right before he died, right? This was the thing that he wrote about.

And that was basically his whole thing was observed the Sabbath. But he's a lot of things that he did. But one of the main things is he set his phone down for a 24-hour period. He did it. And I remember this from the book that he wrote, Friday night to Saturday night. That's when he did it. And he was back after sundown on Saturday night to use it on Sunday. And he said, the reason he doesn't do Sunday is because it's just more conducive to his work schedule.

But he took one day fully present with his family, with his kids, not on that phone. And this little experience I had, now it took some logistics. And my wife and I talked about it. I said, this is something we should do. Like, this, I just did this by accident. Now, like, we went out and met people. And I could only check my text like twice a day. But I did have her ghosting, ghost texting for me.

I'd be like, hey, well, you text Mark's wife. We're going to meet them later. Like your assistant? A little bit. So you weren't unplugged. Not a ton. You were, but you weren't. But I did have that crutch.

My point is, so if I tried to do this and I thought about it during football season, right? Well, like, I can't do Saturdays. I'm going to go to Austin. I'm going to go to UT games. And that's logistically. How do I meet up with my son? How do I meet up with this other couple that we're going to, or how do I get here. My ticket's on my phone. So I don't know how you do that. You know, I don't know how you do that.

Maybe it goes back to being Sunday is your day, but Sunday I start preparing for work a little bit and I need my phone and that kind of thing. I don't know when to do it, but I know that we need one of those seven days to do it. I think it's impossible. This what we need is for you to be less accessible. Worse at testing. To be honest, man, to be honest, I worried about that. I was like, well, I don't know, could either show staff be texting me? What if something goes horribly wrong? I'm like, you're not that important, dude. Well, they're going to be fine.

They're going to be fine. I mean, I thought, what if the, I mean, I know this sounds like, what if somebody high level in government reaches out? You know, like, well, you know what? I guess they're not going to hear from me for six hours. That's the way it's going to be, which is kind of how I am anyway, right? If Pete needs your opinion on something serious. You're saying. No, there is, I think it also having, having a young son. So when he goes to sleep,

like I found myself going to bed earlier and earlier unless I have a reason to stay up, whether it's a game or whatever it may be. And I usually do put my phone down a lot earlier than I used to. And when I wake up in the morning and I see people being like, you know, texting me at what their normal hours are, it's like, they didn't really need me. They just wanted to talk to me at that point. They could have, they easily waited until the next day and everything kept moving. It's completely fine. It's like once you actually do it, you realize you're not that important. Like everything will wait till the next day. Yeah.

Set that precedent. Yeah. You know? And then the people around you, literally, the people around you physically in your presence become more important, as they should be, as they should be, you know. Speaking of Charlie, I, Charlie Kirk, I, I continue to look back on Charlie with increased sense of reverence and increased sense of importance. Charlie Kirk may have been the most important person over a 10-year period in politics, left or right,

and his loss is felt from the highest levels of government to the Internet. And I say that because I look at what's happening on the Internet. So, and all over the political spectrum. So I listen to Candace Owens versus Andrew Wilson debate with Patrick Fett-David. And let me just tell you the quality of content that you're getting when it comes to, You know, to be blunt, Candace was incredibly unimpressive, like incredibly unimpressive when her ideas were challenged and she had to back them up. It was just really, really revealing. And then you have this.

So this new poll, Democrats now favor socialism over capitalism by overwhelming amounts. Now, the headline is one thing. when you break it down to the actual numbers, you start seeing some even more concerning things. 58% of Democrats have a positive view of socialism as compared to only 32% have a positive view of capitalism. So by a 26 point margin, Democrats favor socialism over capitalism. Let's break that down just one step further. When you look at the type of Democrats that are driving this movement, 71% of Democrats with a college degree have a positive view of socialism.

Fascinating. Isn't that? No degree, it drops to 49%. It's massively driven by Democrats with a college degree. So, you know, in some respects, we've kind of been hearing this. We know what's happening. But now I want to play for you a clip, because I'm talking about Charlie Kirk, Joe Rogan, Shane Gillis

talking about you know some of the policy ideas of socialism is communism the g-gast ever somebody needs to look into how a communism but isn't it crazy that it's making a comeback

yeah it always does it's a cycle the problem is if we cannot call communism if we get free health care that would be a good move that would help a lot we're calling everybody communists that wants to free health care free health care is cool

Yeah. We should have that. It's normal. That's not communism. We should have health care and education. You should treat the entire country like it's a community. If you have a community, would you want the sickest person to die who could be very valuable if you could like take care of them? Okay, so what's interesting there is they're kind of decrying what?

He said community and communism. That's communism. Treating the country like it's a community. Is that communism? No. No. Just because the first couple letters are similar? Yeah.

Communism community. Oh, that's like the street salesmanship. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with Barstles, Casey Smith, when we come back on Will Kane Country. Look, community is voluntary associations of people doing things to lift each other up and support each other. It's revealed in the fact that churches are the most charitable organizations in this country. It's revealed in the fact, by the way, that conservatives give to charity at a much higher level than Democrats. Communism is the forced community of spending other people's money. It's not helping one another.

It's forcing someone else to help someone else. Joe, you know, the health care thing is such a Trojan horse for communism. That's the problem. The health care thing, it can't be reduced into that conversation of like, wouldn't you want to help the sickest among you? Well, first of all, the sickest among us can go to the emergency room and get health. Health care. That happens today. That's what happens. It's, and isn't it so wild that every, yeah, well, because you're pawning it off on somebody else. Right. That's what it is. Somebody else is picking up the tab, and that's always the issue with communism. It's the idea that

somebody else is there to pick up your tab. And isn't it weird that all the things that we do, a.k.a. subsidized through the community or government is more expensive and more unaffordable than things that are not. Why is it that my friends, my, my son's friend's dad, moving into the dorms is like, you know what, I'm going to get him a TV for his dorm room. He ran down to Target. He walked back. I saw him carrying and he goes, $79. This TV was $79. I'm like, really? And yet, and yet the most expensive things are college. and health care and housing and the things that the government puts its fingers into to, quote-unquote, help. The things that it doesn't help, it doesn't subsidize TVs, keep dropping, keep getting higher in quality.

Explain that to me about how, you know, in the words of Shane Gillis, universal health care is cool. Do people know what happened, like how, what health care was like, I don't know, like back in the 40s and 50s? No, Patrick, that's the answer or no, because what I was going to say to Will is the fact that you have, have the knowledge of what it looks like on the other side. The issue right now, especially with younger people who are in favor of communism. Well, no, I'm talking about like Gen Z. Okay, you're not that old. But I'm saying like the, a lot of like the voting that we're seeing or like in New York City who voted for Mondani. It's like these people are hearing, oh, we can help each other, free health care, free education. And if you say, well, I don't want that, then you're automatically

seen as a bad person instead of hearing out exactly why it wouldn't work. That's the issue that we're running into right now because of course it's cool to say yeah free health care everybody can be taken care of but it's because people don't understand what that means and what it actually looks like and that is a real issue right now i have another buddy this story was but i have a friend that told me this month before his mom needs um i can't remember what she needs it's something serious medical care in canada he's from canada he lives here now but she lives up there seven months she has to wait seven months for whatever it is she's going to get in Canada right and it's it's not the kind you want to wait on. It's like, oh, this is the kind of thing that gets compoundingly worse the

longer that you wait. This free health care that everybody offers comes with that. And there's also this. Patrick, you may be able to look this up. Sometimes I think you know things, but then I remember you don't. So you'll need to look it up. Like, social security is expected to go bankrupt. I believe by 2032, six years away. It's crazy. And Medicare Part A is, I think, scheduled to go bankrupt by 2035. The whole, all these socialized medicine is based on a simple, simple premise. One generation pays for another. Young people pay for old.

Everybody thinks not because I paid in over my lifetime. And so I want the money out, you know, because we all have Social Security withheld from our check. But that's not how it works. That money is not held in a trust and not touched. It is replenished by young people paying into it. That's how it works. Have you seen birth rates? Anybody seen birth rates worldwide?

Birth rates are absolutely plummeting. Plummitting. Not like a little small trend down, plummeting. So explain to me how you continue to fund these things with fewer young people than the old people drawing out. You can't? And so then there's the, then you get the, this one. Oh, billionaires, billionaires. The billionaire thing is the most absurd thing in the world.

It's really the most, if you don't like billionaires. if you don't like billionaires and you just want to tax billionaires more, fine, fine. Just say that I'm doing this out of envy, I'm doing this out of animus. That's what you're doing. I don't like them. I don't like that they have more than me. I think they should pay higher taxes because I'm pissed off. That is a better rationale than billionaires will fund health care for all.

Shane Gillis and Joe Rogan's idea. They can't. You could tax them at obscene level. levels, obscene. 90%. That's the highest it's ever been in American history. You could tax them at 90%. It would not fund, it would not even come close to funding half of the DSA's wish list, which includes other things besides free health care, but it wouldn't come close. By the way, you could add in a 90% tax rate, a wealth tax. We did this on the show the other day. A list of taxes you could add in. It doesn't come close to the wish list. You can't afford the utopic dream that they're selling through communism. But the issue is, well... Free health care, by the way, is the biggest one. But the issue is, is that people aren't educated enough to know those facts, what you just

said, because what you just said is absolutely true. And if you actually know the numbers and how it breaks down, then that's fine. But the issue is the general public, especially people who are saying they favor socialism, do not either know that, understand it, or want to know that. So when they're spitting out their facts... I think the last one's key. Yeah, they don't want to. They don't want to know.

But I mean, let's just say just Shane Gillis's quote right there on Joe Rogan. If he said the opposite, well, universal health care isn't cool, then that immediately makes you sound to the mass general public like a jackass. Even though he might have reasons for it, but it's an easier thing to say, well, yeah, I want everybody to have free health care. I want everyone to have free education because they don't want to actually present the numbers and the facts. And that is an issue. So that word you keep using cool is, is, um,

is sort of the one driving a lot of this, I think. Like, how do I, and it's, it's tricky. So I am old enough for this now, Casey. In my lifetime, in my professional career. Never going to let that go. Well, I wasn't alive in the 40s and 50s or whatever. You just said back before, back when you went to the country, doctor, paid with cash. Say that.

What was the invention of the airplane like? Sir, you are projecting. I did not say that, okay. I know that you are very young. My apologies. Over middle age, according to your. scale, but my apologies. In my lifetime, I have survived, lived through definitely, the majority of my life,

conservative ideas are not cool. They are not cool. Liberal ideas are cool, okay? That has flipped in the past, what do we think? Eight? Eight-ish? No, no. No, maybe just six.

No. Six? No. After COVID, right after COVID. Two to three. two to three 2021 2 to 3

yeah because in 2020 it was it was very cool to be liberal yeah I think that hung over you're right maybe so liberals

I think you're right the entirety the entirety of the Trump first term he was not cool quote unquote cool right

yes like Shane Gillis and Joe Rogan would not have supported Trump wouldn't Rogan a Bernie bro was he a Bernie bro was he a Bernie bro

Were they anti, forget not support. Were they anti-Trump up until what? 2020, 2020? Yeah, I would say, 22. I'm talking just generalized. Like, I'm not talking about those two specifically, but I still, I mean, I feel like maybe it depended on where you lived, but I mean, living in New York in 2020, it was very cool.

And I'm putting this in air quotes, cool to be liberal. I feel like until probably 2021, 2021, 22. Rogan was critical of Trump before 2024, and then he kind of endorsed him a little bit. Kind of softens, yeah. Yeah. But, like, I think that's when it was around the time of the assassination attempt, I think, also helped. True. Because it kind of helps soften him a little bit, made him a little more human and palatable for people.

But also, I mean, like, you know, Alex Broussowitz did a really good job of, you know, working with people to try to make the ideas cool, I think. And Patrick, it's not cool to be supportive of the person in power. So I will say, like, even if this is flipping on Trump, and I kind of think it is, like, not Trump, if this is flipping on, I'm not even sure a lot of these people ever supported conservative ideas. They just supported Trump, actually. They liked the image of Trump. What do they support their ideas? Like, what did any of these guys say? Right.

Nothing really. Well, Shane in other places is like, yeah, I was definitely in favor of Trump when I thought he was going to release the Epstein list and shut down the wars. And, you know, and there's public perception that he didn't do those things. And that, so this perception, then it's the fact that Trump is the end group now, it kind of leads to more pushback. And people who are naturally, naturally like to push back are going to do that. Well, Shane is also interesting too because what he talks about in his standups and publicly versus who he actually is is actually very different. And he says that. Like he kind of plays to the Trump crowd with his Trump impersonations and all of that.

But that's actually not how he's usually leaned politically. So there is a difference. And that's true with a lot of Hollywood. I think that's right. I don't know that. I do know that. I do know that. And I do know that.

And that is something that he has said. And I mean, he even in one of his Netflix standups, he talks about, you know, early on. on-set Republican and how that happens to men in their 30s. They start watching the history channel. This is something that he has said a lot. So if you are a Shane Gillis fan and you notice him or if you know him personally, he actually is not near as pro-Trump as he seems to be in his stand-ups. But that's not a secret if you're paying attention to Shane's work.

Because most comedians aren't like liberal or conservative. They really aren't. They look at the world completely differently than most people. What's going on with Bill Maher? Bill Maher just did his thing on Friday night on you must assimilate. If you're an immigrant, it's your job to melt into the melting pot. You must assimilate. Like, is Bill Maher now?

Because he's engaging on the ideas. Like Shane Gillis and to some extent Joe Rogan, they're not even engaging on the ideas. It's just on the image, right? It's on the vibes and feels of the whole deal. Mar's actually doing the ideas. He's doing... I'm having a margin. I don't give Mar too much credit because Mar will pivot back to saying Trump is racist in next week, probably.

But he definitely will, Patrick. But he, but in the meantime, it's worth noting he's not just doing the vibes and feels thing. He's actually talking about a very substantive idea here. You must assimilate. But Bill Maher is one of the few people who spoke out against a radical Islamic fundamentalism. for the last few decades. All the way through. Consistent on that.

Consistent. But he's kind of like subject to subject, no. I mean, he just, he doesn't have a political stance just staunchly on one side. He kind of goes subject by subject on what he believes instead of just kind of like going party line. I actually think that's something you can appreciate. I would say I actually appreciate that because in that way you can actually decide, do I agree with what somebody is saying about the specific topic as opposed to I only vote this way. so I have to across the board believe what people believe.

And that's just not real life, by the way. And then each side is going to get mad of what you say. Yeah, that's not real life. That's not the way that everyday people live their life. You don't just take a menu and say, okay, I'm only a Republican or I'm only a Democrat on every single issue. People actually have those conversations. My only rebuttal to that, Casey, is at least with conservatism. I don't think, I think with progressivism, this doesn't apply.

One of, okay, here's, here's one of the, I wasn't always conservative. Okay? And I know when it began to come together for me. Roughly at the age of, I'm going to call it, 23 to 26. And it was a process of law school studying the Constitution and understanding the law. And then quite honestly, I did read a lot of Ayn Rand and I did, I think, yeah, she was very influential. But the point is at that moment, I start to see the connection between ideas. Like, oh, well, if you believe this, that impacts this idea. in this way, or this idea is, it is contradictory to this other idea. Do you see what I mean? And so that's how you start getting into a little bit more of a vein of a through line of thought, where progressivism, by its very nature, is ad hoc. They don't have to, they can conflict with one another. It can be self-defeating. It's one day Barack Obama doesn't support gay marriage, and seven years later, if you think a dude shouldn't play girls' sports, you're a bigot. You know, so it's it's very, very fluid and non-cohesive set of ideas driven.

It doesn't offer anything. By image and empathy. Empathy is the gratuitous way of me describing it. Image is the more, what I mean by image is like virtue signaling, being cool. And that's kind of what I'm talking about. This cool thing is changing and it's driving so much and it's reducing everyone. And so, you know, everyone's, we've talked about this last. time we're together, I think, Casey, but everyone, if you listen to Candace Owens versus Andrew

Wilson, and I don't think Andrew Wilson did any great job, but the point is Candice is playing on, she's really good at rhetoric, really good at argumentation, but not good at defending actual ideas. And she does really slick rhetorical tricks. Like, I'm not allowed to think. It's illegal to think. No, you just have to support your thoughts. In a rational world, you support your thoughts, they survive challenge, you go back and forth. But every challenge you runs from in that way. And we're running really fast to lowest common denominator is what I'm getting at. And I look back at Charlie and I go, Charlie was actually smart, actually had depth of ideas, actually had a good sense of judgment, and didn't run to the lowest common denominator,

and yet still made everything pretty cool. Like, you know, if I go to a fraternity house at the University of Texas, or I can tell you this as recently his last season, Charlie is brought up to me, right? Well, everybody knows Rogan, the other brain. But Charlie was the one that was driving a lot of young, specifically men, to seeing this way of life and this view of things as cool. And we've lost him and without him,

I really think it's a huge moment of this is how you end up here. Nancy Mace has a new podcast, the former congresswoman. I thought this was AI, by the way. For a solid amount of time yesterday, I thought these tattoos were AI. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with Barstoles, Casey Smith, when we come back on Will King Country. She unveiled in her new influencer podcast world. She's got a bunch of tattoos. Okay, well, I don't know.

I don't know what to say about the tattoos. They're not just tattoos. They're a specific type. I saw a lot of people describing them as the Gen Z formula of them. I don't even necessarily know what that definition is, but they are a specific type of tattoo, right, Dan? I mean, you have, you're tatted up. I've got some tattoos.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I want to explore that. I want to explore that. The Gen Z style, what Casey just said, because I was in Austin. By the way, Casey, you may like this. Oh, boy. Austin, come on. Get it together. If I didn't love the University of Texas, and I didn't love a lot about this, and you came in from out of state and you went to Austin, this is not the Austin I lived in 20 years ago.

It's true. It is not. I drove down so much nostalgia. I drove down so excited. I was listening to Pat Green. I was listening to Robert O'Keene. I was listening to Cory Morrow. I was doing like, yeah.

Randy Rogers? I can't. Oh, yeah. Randy Rogers. Josh Abbott? Keep it coming. Casey. Well, that's a little younger.

I love Josh Abbott. But now we're getting a little bit yet. Okay, sorry. Josh wasn't around. You got me on Texas country. You got me on Texas country right now. I could spend an hour talking about it. And I get there and I'm walking through West Campus and I'm seeing the Black Lives Matter flags.

I'm like, what? And I could and I'm inundated with trans flags. And can I just tell you for a minute? Do you know where all those flags are? Do you know where it's still 2020? Churches. University churches. The University Baptist.

church, the university, you met the church. If you run into a trans flag, what happened to Patrick? Did he leave? Now, we're just fixing his audio situation. Oh, that's where you're getting it. You're getting it from the churches. So, Dan, I want you to get it on this. Casey, I was sitting at this in Austin at this pretty cool place, burger joint, you know, and these people were sitting down from this and I said something to my sons. I'm like, man, I don't know how long ago it was, but The cool tattoo to have was like a sleeve, right? That's what you did.

Dan, do you have a sleeve? Working on it. It's a process. You're working on a sleeve. That's going to date you, Dan. Don't care. Because the tattoos I saw around Austin, the style now is randomly placed tattoos that are disconnected. Yep.

So when I look at Nancy Mace, that's kind of what she's doing, Casey. Is that what you're talking about, the Jin Z style tattoos? Uh-uh. Yes. Dan, you and I are going to disagree. on this because yes, a lot of my friends who, you know, I either have worked with at Barstle or whatever that are younger, it is, it's the random

all over. Like, I have little tiny ones all over that are not connected, but I'm talking about with Nancy Mace, it's like, that's not a sleeve. Like my guy friends, because it's mostly my, and I have some girlfriends who have sleeves, but it's like they start from their shoulder, they work on their shoulder, then they go down the arm and it's all kind of one continuous

tattoo. We're talking about different things though. But that her style is more of what the Gen Z people are doing. No, so that's what I have. She has American traditional. That's what that is where you're talking about a stick and poke. Oh wow, it's got a name. Yeah, yeah, it's traditional. No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about, no, I'm not talking about the actual size. I'm talking about the continuity of tattoos.

No, I know you're saying. So her tattoos are all done in. They're not connected. Which is more of a jinzy thing. But I still have a full sleep. I still have a sleep. You know what I'm saying? Like you connect them by doing different things.

You're talking about like a different style of tattoo that is all completely covered, connected. American traditional style is disjointed and not connected, but it is still considered a full sleeve. Well, that might be the definition. It's been happening since the 1920s. What she's doing right here, that's considered a sleeve? Yeah. Let me look at it again.

It's on its way to being a sleeve. If she caps off her shoulder and if she fills it in with stars and stuff like that, what you usually do, that's what an American traditional. You usually do. That's the point, though. What you say is you usually do. A lot of people are not doing that that are younger in Gen Z, which is what her style is right now.

So the style, they call it the TikTok style. My tattoo artist talked about it. Like it's the little, it's like the really disjointed, like it's kind of all over the place, you know, and they're smaller. Yes. Yes. That's Gen Z, but that will fade. That style that Nancy Mace has has been around for a very, very long time. Okay, hold on.

So for a long time, the style has been to not basically see skin between the tattoos. Like if you get one here and you get one here, you fill it in with stars or something like you said to wear it all sort of, you don't see skin. Right. It's all color. Right. Like from here, from wrist to shoulder, it's colored in some way. It may be different colors and it may change designs, but it's all like one big montage. It's a sleeve.

It's like I have a long sleeve shirt on it. Tattooes are sleeves. That's all I'm saying. It's just completely different styles. But so the kids, and we're in the same vein, Dan. So the younger Gen Z, it's a lot of skin between the tattoos. So, like, I saw a girl, and she may have 12 tattoos on her arm, but they're smaller, and they're not connected in any way. Because you could get rid of them very easily.

That's why. And they're randomly placed on her. That's why? They're cosplaying. Yeah. I would disagree with that. I have, like, I have, like, little tiny ones, like, all over it. It's not because I have them to get rid of them.

It's because there's more of, like, I have. didn't have a thought. I want an entire tattoo. I just have like my son's birth date or something like that. With Nancy Mace, if she continues to get skin filled in, then I would agree with you. But from what it looks like right now, because she's already moved down. Like my guy friends who have done it say, okay, you're going to get a half sleep. We're going to have our whole shoulder and bicep done. Then we're going to do the lower arm. She's just kind of done it all the way. And it is more of a gen Z type look at this moment. Taylor LeWan is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. And what I think we're...

Oh, yeah, but he's tatted up from head to toe. But he is filled it in. Dan, let's see yours. Show us yours. I'm not taking my shirt off. I'll show you later. Why? We need to see some skin on this show.

Come on. Take off your shirt. I don't want to do that. It's just a T-shirt. Okay. That's 100% serious. Like, he was like, I don't want to do that. I'm not showing up my chat.

Do not pressure him to get undressed on this show. It was my first day back. Don't get me fired. All right. We'll have to bump the rating. up to two spots. All right, you do it, Casey. Just right.

We'll get called really quick. Hey, listen, there will be a lot of people, eyeballs, but it'll be a problem. No, I, but back to the whole thing with Nancy Mace is that I did not believe it was real because it surprised me that she had that tattoo style. That surprises me.

A lot of yellow and orange. She chose a lot of yellow in orange. Oh, there's Dan's tattoos. So I got to fill it in. Oh, Dan's doing it. Why do he changed his mind to do it? You didn't have to, Dan. Peer pressure.

So I haven't filled in a line, so I'm going to fill it in. But see, I, I will. wouldn't call that a sleeve. It's not a sleeve. I said I'm working on a sleeve. Yeah. Yeah. I still think that. Yours is a little like Nancy Mace's. Yeah. Yours is a little like Nancy. I have the same, I'm doing the same style as she is. Yours, yours, I would not say are jinzy just because each tattoo is so big. Well, they're thick lines. They're neo-traditional. They're American traditional style.

So they're thick lines, bold colors. Only three, only three colors, usually. What are the colors? Over my. It doesn't matter. It does it not matter? You're just saying you limit yourself to three? Or is there three that you would do? Yeah, they're usually three in it. It doesn't matter what they are. It's usually three colors in it. So Nancy Mace has got black.

I think just black and orange. Oh, that's some green. I see some green in there, too. She has some shading, too. Do we know how far down her arms they go? Have we seen that? Or did we just get a piece? She has nine overall.

So I don't think that's probably, it, I think. Maybe I'm alone in this, but it surprised me. I don't know why. I did not anticipate Nancy Mays having these type of tattoos. I got the ick. So these politicians, like, what's going? You got the ick from this, Patrick?

I don't like tattoos. From Nancy Maces? Yeah. It's way too many. Okay, I have two conflicting opinions. I love it. I actually think her tattoos look pretty. I think her tattoos look pretty good.

I love it. That also, but I don't think she, I mean, it's not my place to judge, but like, I, I I don't know why you're doing it at this stage of your life. And, like, what are we doing post-politics? To me, if she had never been a congresswoman, like, first of all, I think that no tattoos is the biggest rebellion act there is right now. Like, that's the way to truly be unique or rebellions. Or because people have gotten them. There's a 50, I saw a stat.

I think 50% of women have them under a certain age, I think have a tattoo at this point. So like no ink, you're now the, it's like if rebellion is defined by deviating from the norm, like if you're going no ink, you are now the rebel. The norm is to get tattoos. I'm trying to do the math in my head of how many of my girlfriends around my age or age demographic don't have tattoos and I can't think of one. Really? At least like one small one somewhere.

Yes. I mean, I have, speaking of Austin, like I have girlfriends who live in Austin who have like full sleeves but like I mean when I dress you can't usually tell I mean I have a couple on my wrist but I can't think of one of my girlfriends my age that don't at least have one

so you're that that's right I like it Patrick well yeah I mean it's yeah it's also different for men and women like tattoos on girls but that's also Dan's style like that's like

yeah I just know I regret every girl dated has had tattoos or sleeves Patrick, you and I were talking about this point, there's something about, I don't, I don't, it's weird. I don't mind her tattoos aesthetically. They, they, they, I think they look pretty good. But what is it with members of Congress seeking to be cool? This is going back to this thing I'm talking about. It's like, there's no value other than cool and cool as a mechanism to attract attention. And it's like, statesmen, you know, wisdom, being principled. And I can't rob her of these things just because she got tattoos. That's not what I'm saying. But there's something about this that's like, why is every, Congress should not be an avenue to fame, right?

AOC should not be the model. Since when did Congress become celebrity? That's not a good thing about America. and where we're headed. I don't know. I mean, like, I think that, I think back in the day, it used to be a lot easier to become, well, not easier to become a celebrity, but you could get fame other ways. And now it's like it's so hard to become a celebrity because everything is so niched

and nuanced in pop culture that this is probably the best spot to do it because people are always focused on politics and government. Also, side note, Ellie just sent me. Ellie just sent me a text message of exactly what Gen Z style tattoos are. And we're right on it. Just so we know, Ellie, our Gen Z representative in your office right now, Will, is fact-checking us on Gen Z tattoos. You and I are right. Yeah, this, yes.

And Dan, too, and Dan as well. They're the little ones. They're a little stick and poke. But they're just all over. I don't think they're sticking poke. They're just like little thin-lined. No, these are, these are my, regardless. Yeah, that's right, Dan.

That's a lot of what I saw. Yeah, the little thin-lined, like. stick figure stuff. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. A lot of that kind of thing. Not big, intricate. And Nancy Maces are more big and intricate. Check in over here. On YouTube,

metaphoric says, I became a conservative when I started dating my now husband. But prior to that, I went from progressive to libertarian. Maybe this is why so many, not on the left. Maybe this is why so many. On the left. left is anti- Yeah, just know the left. On the left.

On the left. On the left is anti-men marriage. Yeah. It is amazing how much power your spouse or your significant other has over you. I think that a lot of husbands end up guiding or leading or influencing their wives into conservatism. It also happens to co-inside with the institution of marriage, the process of having a child, and the life of raising a child. Those will push you in those directions as well. But I've also seen the reverse

where a lot of wives pull their husbands to the left. I don't know that I've ever seen a wife pull a liberal husband to the right. Has that ever happened? A wife pulls a liberal husband to the right. I don't think so.

James Carville's wife failed. I've never let anyone really fully influence anything of opinions I have politically or... Oh, bullshit, Dan. That's... Come on. Now you have to take your shirt off. I'm totally kidding.

Now you have to go shirtless for the rest of the show as punishment. So, Will, did you watch the White Lotus? Are you a White Lotus person? Yeah. So the scene from last season where the three women are at the table and they find out that one of them is now living in Texas and she voted for Trump. Do you remember that scene? With the church, right? She's from Austin, too, by the way.

She lives in Austin. That was the hole in that story. I'm like, you didn't move to Austin and get conservative. Right. Yes. Yes. So that scene is now making its round, at least on my algorithm on X, but of course, because I've watched it one time as soon as it popped up.

But now it's a whole rhetoric is happening where it's like, this is what's happening in so many female friend groups, especially white women, that now if you are a conservative or you did vote for Trump or whatever, that you are now shamed out of that friend group and they're using that scene as a reference. and of course, each side is talking about it. But that is exactly what you're talking about because in that scene, that woman that she is playing, she was persuaded to be more conservative

because her husband was conservative and because she went to church with Republicans. And that's the way they're portraying it, that if you were liberal and you decide to be conservative, it must be because your husband or the people around you have brainwashed you. And that's exactly what they were trying to show in that scene. That's the overall thought.

I'm not saying it's correct. I'm saying that's the way that it's portrayed right now. But I remember that scene. I didn't think it reflected poorly on the woman who said she was conservative. It reflected poorly on the women around. Because you're conservative. But you're saying they did that. Because you are conservative.

So other people see it and say that she's the mark. She's the dupe. So other people who, because I have girlfriends in New York that are extremely liberal. And it was almost like it became a thing where it's like if you even thought that somebody would vote for Trump, that it was like, oh, what happened? Who got to you? Who brainwashed you? But then if you're a conservative and you see that, you're like, oh, well, because she,

decided that she wanted to think a different way. But that whole discourse on social media right now is happening because of that scene from the White Lotus. Well, here's the thing. I think that's a common path to tread. That's what I'm saying. Like, I bet that in real life, there's a lot of women like that woman that her husband influenced her to become more conservative. Husband and life circumstances, meaning, like I said a minute ago, it's not just that the dude brainwash, you got married. You tied into a traditional institution of marriage. You, you, you, yeah, I. Yeah. So had a kid maybe, started raising a family, went to church. These things are going to guide you in certain ways in life, not always, but sometimes.

Because I'll say the opposite. When I meet a dude that's liberal, I often go, wonder what his wife is like. You and I have, I'm not going to say who we were talking about, but you and I had that conversation off air when I was in Dallas. I'm not talking about you, Dan. You're not talking about you. But you did, you and I were having a conversation about this. We were talking about somebody that we mutually know. And you immediately were like, was it because of his wife?

I was like, I don't think so, but that is a true statement that a lot of times that happens. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with Barstools, Casey Smith when we come back on Will King Country. Absolutely. Absolutely. Really quick, back to the comments, Chichael says, or C.C. Whatever, come on. Hassan Piker literally says, thank you, Candice Owens, for totally wrecking the Conservative Party. The Democrats love her and Tucker now. That should tell you all you need. Candice is doing incredible damage. Absolutely.

So it's Hassan Piker, but. Oh, I was about to say that, isn't that the scale right now, Will? I mean, we've talked about Husson Piker a lot of times when I've been on air, and I know you do too, but it's, it's happening on both sides. I feel like Hassan Piker and that group is a lot louder because it feels like it's bigger. But on the conservative side, there are people that are doing the same thing. It's just most people seem to be more in the middle. You just have the extremes on either side. Like Candace Owens would be one of those, that if you want to point to the conservative party, be like, well, she's conservative, look at what she's doing. You can always point to somebody that's going to be extreme. That could be hurting the party.

Well, I'm hesitating to join you for two reasons. Okay. If you want to know. We just have a one of the conversations here. The extremes on both sides thing is sort of like buying a crackerjack box. Like, what toy do I get? I feel like it's always like, oh, it's the thing that everybody gets to say and it makes everybody feel good. because it shows that you're thoughtful, there's extremes on both sides. So I just don't like jumping into that pond because I think it's cheap, it's cheap points. There are obviously extremes on both sides. The second reason I'm hesitating is I don't know that anybody on the right has the formal influence in power that Hassan Piker does. I'm really trying to think through this on myself. There's going to be comments and you can bring them on, damn.

Just based because of the fact that... Candace doesn't have a politician. Hassan Piker has an army of politicians at this point. You see what I'm saying? I wouldn't say army. Like nobody... I think it's how he was introduced to us, though. There's a difference between audience.

I'm not saying they both don't have audience. That would be an apples and apples. But Asan Piker is putting candidates on stages and on ballots with his points of view. and I don't think Candace is doing that. Don't you think some people are just agreeing with him? I'm not saying she wouldn't if she could. And because of that reason

and not fully believing in what he's talking about. Yes. And knowing he's in place. So they are. Right. Well, polls, as we see, are wrong a lot of times. But I think like because of his name and because of his audience

that they're platforming him. They want to saddle up to him because they know that they are going to be put in front of his audience. Whereas with Canada Owens might not have that. We've seen stats, we've done them on the show. I mean, we just shared with you how socialism is growing in popularity on the left. And we've seen, for example, you talking about men to go young women, we've seen the stats on young women getting further and further left, right?

So the argument in reverse to us as well, the Candices of the world or whatever, or Nick Flintzis are radicalizing the right. But when we've seen those stats, the young men have not gone farther right. We've done this several times on the show. We've shown those graphs and those stats. But they have not moved. So you can't assign to them the same level of influence. Now, I have said, I've said on this show, and in my private life as well, when I meet young men,

they often bring up some of these people we're talking about. but we don't see it macro statistically yet. Maybe you will in five years, but you don't right now that the right has moved further right the way the left has moved further left, attributing pretty good power to whatever's pulling them in that direction. Well, there's also like this faction that we're not talking about

of young men who are the Nick Fuentes, who I don't consider right at all. It's like this online belief system. You know, it's not left or right. It's like the, that kind of like discord, I don't know, there's this other faction of younger men that is not traditionally conservative. You know what I'm talking about? And they don't really fit on either side.

But I think that's growing. I think that's growing more than just young men on the conservative right as we know it. I would agree with that. That there's more, it's more, and maybe it's a cliche and it's a cop-out, but it's the more in the middle type of thing. They're like picking and choosing from either. party on what they believe. That seems to be more normalized with young men. Speaking of politicians, kind of becoming influencers or using their, trying to be cool.

Do you know what I want to play? Why are you already laughing? I already know what you want to play. That's ridiculous. Oh, no. I know. I know what it is, too. Do you guys all know what I want to play? Really? I think. Well, tell me what it is. The dancing video. I want to see how good you are guessing my segues. Jacob Frye. Yes, it is. The dancing video. It is Jacob Frye. The minute. governor i mean the mayor of minneapolis um what is he at a black entrepreneurship festival or something like that correct this doesn't matter where it is but okay if you're watching if you're

listening on spotify radio or apple i'm going to let this play for a minute i'll do my to describe it on the back end play by play this dance please might get demonetized for all right he's I don't know how to play-by-play this, Casey. I don't know. I can't see it. I can't see it so I can't play-by-play it. Have you ever been to any wedding ever?

Now the older white guy is dancing like this. The drunk older white guy. Yes. And thinks he's killing it. His lower body and his upper body don't seem to be connected. No. But he thinks they are. He thinks they're in rhythm.

He thinks they're in the same way, but they're not. He thinks he's doing what the other guy is doing. Yes. He has had it. He is the older white guy at a wedding two or three hours into the reception that has had one too many beers and thinks he's a great dancer. The bottom half does not move. He's going for it.

Right. This is a counter. This is a counter argument. I'm not a good dancer. I'm going to tell you this. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Very often. And I'm jealous of the guys to get out there.

It's mostly at a wedding where guys will get out there and go for it. And I've even said this to my sons. I'll be like, the best dancers are not self-conscious. They just go for it. Right. The problem here is Jacob Frye. But Jacob Frye needs to be self-conscious. He's going for it.

He's not out of wedding. He's not. at a wedding. He's not out of way. That's the issue. You have to know your time and place. If you are going to be that person, you have to be at a wedding or someplace where you're just be like, God, that guy's having a great time. Like, what a life that must be. Not at a black entrepreneurs festival where everyone's going to make fun of you. He is on beat, though. I will tell, I will give him that. And there's only two people on the dance floor, the guy with a mic and him. That's it. You can't be that guy. You just can't. He is on, he is on rhythm. I'll give him

that. This is him eating the Somali food. Is he, he is? I can't see the video right now. Now I have to double check that whenever. Is he really? I did not. Yes. Okay. Play it with the audio down. Well, you can't. Then she won't know if he's on rhythm. I can't see it because

I can see it, which is fine. I can watch it in there, but. Like his movements, he is moving to the beat. He just has poor movement. Poor movement to the beat, but he is on beat. So he has rhythm. You have to, you hope that if He's, again, not drunk at a wedding, that he has to know he has some sort of rhythm in order to even have that.

If I saw that guy out of wedding, I'd be like he has some sort of rhythm but does not know what to do with it. Can I ask you a question? Why is that so objectively uncool and Trump dancing is cool? Because he's not on rhythm. I'm serious. I'm curious. Because he's also. Who?

Trump is not in rhythm. And he's, and it's not like he's actually trying to dance. Is that like it's not, he's not trying. Like, he's not thinking he's doing something. Yeah, to YMCA. I mean, he's also 80. That makes a difference. An 80-year-old guy doing what Jacob Fry did right there might be a little bit more acceptable.

Hey, Dan, does the left think of Trump as 80? I forget. What, like, as an old man? I really do. Yeah, it's brought up constantly. Yeah, I forget he's an old man. I forget he's a little. I really do.

They talk about it all the time. that's a that's a point for the especially like the younger and dan knows exactly who i'm talking about the younger liberal influencers they're like oh everybody made fun of sleepy joe but look at trump he's falling asleep all the time he's wearing a diaper like that's a thing that they do all the time they do really yes i'm i mean of all the things you could criticize trump for this is just the weakest to me i mean i don't know when trump's going to vote for a long time come on man I mean will

they did it at the whenever Trump was at Madison Square Garden for game three of the NBA finals like it looked like he was falling asleep at halftime and then he left the entire discourse on the left was like see he can't even stay up for the NBA finals and we shut down all of Manhattan for this guy

like that was immediately what they talked about because it looked like he had fallen asleep in the suite his age is a thing though for sure right that they bring up I got to tell you. You forgot who's 80? That lands nowhere with me. I'm not saying it should.

I'm just saying that is a narrative. I mean, I'll tell a couple things, Dan. Mm-hmm. I mean, this is, the energy is insane, right? Not just for an 80-year-old, for anybody. The amount that he sleeps and the amount that he works, it's insane. It's pure insanity. I don't know anyone else like that, no matter what age.

I can't do that. I don't think you do that. You're in your 30s for a little while longer. Hey, what the hell? But, and then I'm in this mate, I don't, I think, I know he colors his hair. Does he still color his hair? Yes. Does he kind of embrace the gray.

It's like, he does like 25% of it. It has a hue. It has a dyed hue. Yeah, there's a little tint. He doesn't look 80 to me. Any, and any, and I'm not saying he's young. I'm just, but like, him. I'm going up and down the stairs of Air Force One. He's doing fine.

Like if you did a biological what's your real age? Yeah. Thing. He doesn't look at 60s. What does he look like then? Like early 70s? He looks like he's in his 70s to me. Yeah, maybe early 70s.

I do think that it just depends on, it depends on where, what algorithm you're stuck in. Because Dan, I know you and I have seen it. It is like if you are stuck in a certain algorithm, it's all people talk about is how old he is. That's right. There's the conspiracy theories about how he stays awake now. There was one that went viral last week. And I don't know who the woman was behind him. I forget her name right now.

But she was touching her stomach because she's pregnant. And they thought she had a buzzer. A buzzer under her shirt. That was just a joke. That was my favorite one. That was just a meme joke. Will, Will. There were a lot of people that were embracing the joke.

But there were enough people that actually believed it and were saying it, that she then quote tweeted it and was like, guys, I'm just pregnant. And if you went and read the replies to her even doubling down and saying, I'm pregnant. She's like, these people are living on marks. I saw it. She would touch her. I don't even know if she did it more than once or if they just looped the meme, but she'd touch her stomach.

It was so good. He'd jostle back away. It was like the buzzer. It was the Astros cheating scandal inside of politics. But it was like clever. It was clever because they were saying there's a spotter that would see him fall asleep and then give her a nod. and then she would hit her stomach buzzer that would buzz him awake.

My God. That's clever. It's so dumb, but there are so many people that want to believe that. I mean, Patrick's a conspiracy theorist. Patrick could probably believe something like that. That's not true case. I'm really tired of the labels.

What are you in today, Patrick? Are you in Joe Rogan Studios? Yeah, I thought I'd come down here. I'm getting a little, I don't know, it's kind of a weird vibe. Very red. I thought it was a spaceship I thought it was a spaceship

Yeah same But we've never been to space According to Patrick So Over on YouTube metaphor It says Joe Rogan never left the political left Um Ida

That's right He said He wanted Michelle Obama He wanted Michelle Obama to be president A couple years ago But didn't Joe Rogan kind of become From a podcasting standpoint Like didn't he become the quote

like voice of the right. Yeah. Oh yeah. Assigned. Assigned. That's what I mean. Or the alternative. Never self-proclaimed.

Right. So how does that happen if he has never left the left? How does that? Because he's the biggest podcast on the planet. Because the left moves so far left. We know the answer to this. It's because the left moved so far left that anything slightly to their right, they called alt-right. Joe Rogan is a guy of the left.

And stayed on the left. He did embrace Trump to some degree. agree. But the left keeps lurching further and further left to the point where we're now having open debates about socialism. So you can't look at somebody who's on the center left and go, ah, he's just a moderate. No, they look at that person and they go, we've said this before. They don't see the difference between somebody like me and Rogan. Well, he, he represents the do your own research crowd. You know what I'm saying? Like that kind of person, the alternative thought and not the traditional thought. Yes, but it's also a mistake. I want to do this story. I want to do this story. Yeah.

Why? Because they think that if they keep up with the same leftist talking points that they used to use, that they'll be spared and they won't. Like, they'll keep being eaten. You're right, Patrick. You're right. You're right. Yeah, the left hasn't stopped eating.

The one thing about the left surge in socialism, whatever, is it isn't actually a bigger tent that's bringing more people in. it is still moving further and cordoning people off. So you're not, there's nothing going to be left of whatever it was in the middle, the center left. That's gone. That's hollowed out.

And I do feel like, and maybe this is, again, going back to just my experiences in my personal life and just in general, but it's like if you even remotely disagree with one thing that they have to say, they, they can't associate with you. They're like,

never mind. Like you don't agree with me on one fact. It's like, then I, our missions don't align. That's facts. Which is crazy. Oh, by the way, that's another thing about Austin. So we know, we can Austin. The flags, the leftism.

When I lived in Austin, it was like fun, lefty, you know, Willie Nelson. Yeah. It's angry now. Angry. It's angry. The music's angry there, too. It's got a real, everything about it is a super negative vibe. It is not, they use words like love.

and tolerance like axes and hammers. It is wild. You can, and you literally feel it. You can feel it, the anger. Before we go, I want to do this story with you, Casey. Arizona teen charged for relentlessly targeting ex-girlfriend with dodgeballs during gym class. Okay, I saw this on the rundown before I got in here, and I didn't want to look up any of it, because I wanted you to answer these questions.

How old are we talking? Are we talking 13? Are we talking 18? I need teens I know teens but there's a big difference to me If this is a 13 year old boy doing it Versus an 18 year old boy It is a different level for me

I can give you a grade Because I don't know ages It's 8th grade So like 14 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 That's 13 yeah I turned 13 in 7th grade I don't know so yes like

The 7th or 8th grade Okay All right I want to hear it How hard are we talking Like was she going to the hospital She got bruised Look at the picture You got bruised.

You don't have this one. I've got. She doesn't have, Casey doesn't have her. I can see this one. I can see this one. Okay, those are. She's got a bruise. On her ribs, it looks like.

She's got a couple. I don't know if that's all the same bruise, Patrick, or if that's multiple bruises. It looks like maybe on her, what? The two left ones. A boy. Oh, three teen. Now, hold on a minute. This is different.

That's different. It was the ex-boyfriend and two of his friends. Yeah, no, I'm out on that. If it was like. Not chill. here's the thing. Criminally charged? Criminally charged? Like actually they're going to jail?

That's crazy. When I was just being charged. So when I was in seventh grade, we went to paintball at church, like a church camp situation, and I had a boy specifically target me because I wouldn't say yes to him to go out on a

date and he lit me up with paintballs. And I had welts everywhere. Straight to jail. And when I got out of this specific paintball game I was crying because it hurt so much. No, I did not date him. Did you ever date it? No, he was too short for me.

Did it work over the long haul? No, he was too short. He was too short. Too short for me. Okay, too short. It wasn't my vibe, all right? But I remember saying to whoever it was, like, he hurt me.

And the answer was, well, you were playing paintball. So there is a difference. Now, if he comes outside of the game, outside of the inside, you know, the boundaries of the game and shoots you with a paintball gun, have a problem. However, you were playing paintball. That's within the rules. So I was told to suck it up. Now, that was also a long time ago. I don't know what the rules are now. But I do feel like I remember him picking on me by shooting. It's very similar. But I will say that if he had two of his

friends also doing that to me, that makes it different. Well, okay, it makes it not cool. You always go for the week, but he doesn't make it criminal. No, it doesn't make it criminal. It's dodgeball. It's dodgeball, yes, correct. Unless they're saying out loud, we're criminal charges. I wonder what that kid that did that thing is doing. Well, why, Dan, would that make it criminal? Probably, yeah.

It's not criminal in a game of dodgeball. Why? It's in the game. It's assault. What is? And it's all, nothing, nothing they did is extra of the game. Right. If it's within the confines of the game.

If we were playing dodgeball. They hit her off while she was off the court. Oh, well, that's different. Is that different? Yes, that's what I'm saying. Is that criminal charges, though? They're still within the confines of a game. No, because it's different.

If you're playing dodge ball, the point is to hit people with dodge balls. So it's because she's within the lines. Got it. Right. Well, it's like, I mean, think about it any sport. If you're playing football and you get tackled by a 300-pound linebacker at the line of scrimmage, that's fine. If you're outside of MetLife and the 300-pound linebacker tackles you, that's probably assault. Right.

Yeah. And it's okay if, like, in the football game, the whole. the whole team goes, we are going to target and beat the hell out of the running back or the quarterback or whatever. That's part of the game. If Patrick and I say in this dodgeball game, let's go after Dan. And we said out loud and say, we're coming for you, Pansy. We're like, Pansy, we're coming for you. We're targeting you.

And then we just continue peg you. It's not assault, Dan. It's not. It's mean. It's mean when it's for you guys to a girl. But does intent change it? Because of the X thing. But what's the intent in dodgeball?

No, because the intent in dodgeball is to hit people with balls. Right, but if they're saying we're coming after you because we don't like you because of what you did and blah, blah, blah. What's the matter what the motivation is? Let's call the kid that lit me up with paint balls. I wonder if I have his numbers still. If I can find this kid's, if I can find this kid's contact that lit me up with paintball, I'm absolutely going to reach out to him like on Instagram or something and be like, I need to know how, like, was the intent? intent to hurt me or was the intent to just really annoy me and get me out of the game?

Those are two different things. I will never forget that. God, it hurts so bad. Getting hit with a paintball, it sucks. There's one more thing. Like, if you're this kid's dad and you hear about it, if you got his two buddies to do this to the ex-girlfriend, that's different. We're only talking about this through criminal. There's also just being a good dude.

And if I found out my son and his buddies did that to his ex-girlfriend, he'd have problems at home. Which guy version is he? that problems in my house. That you came up with your theory thing? Which one is it? Rick. He's for sure Rick. But that's where it's like they may be using the game of dodgeball to be ricks.

And that is also a problem. Should it be criminal? No, but you absolutely cannot do that to a girl. Which goes to the point that men should not be playing in female sports for this reason. They're stronger. There you go. Tie it all together, Will. Yeah.

This is a girl playing a boy sport. then she accepts the risks when she stepped into the arena. Is dodgeball technically a boy's sport? Yes. We all know it is. We all know it is. When we play it, we all know what's happening. All sports are boys or boys sports.

Don't do it's bad. All boys sports are. Oh, here we go. Here we go. My goodness, just get women out of sports, period. I see everything. Ice skating, Patrick. Yes, men are better figure skaters too.

Better tennis players, better everything. Oh. I will. Come on, Patrick. I will say that yes. Dodgeball is inherently seen as a guy's sport. No, cheerleading isn't. She's an Aggie.

She's an Aggie. He would say that's not a sport. Women are back to cheerleaders? Oh. He would say that's not a sport. You do have male cheerleaders. We have yell leaders. They wear overalls, right?

That's not a cheerleader. It's like a cheerleader outfit. They do not wear a cheerleader outfit. They lead yells. Yeah, yells. One piece? Yeah, what do cheerleaders do? They lead cheers.

It is one piece. I think it's a one piece. Is it a one piece? No, it's not a one piece. It's not. It's not. It is not. And the only reason I know that for a fact is because when John Gruden lost a bet to me last year, when A&M beat Notre Dame, they were going to send him a yell leader suit. And it is two pieces with a belt.

Thank you very much. Thank you. So you can't just keep coveralls at Home Depot. You can't keep white coveralls in Home Depot. They do have the overalls. They do have the overalls. There's a, you know, we're getting. Didn't you just talk about how much you hate Austin.

now what are you doing? I bet you if you went to college station, Texas, you would love how conservative it is. Thank you. Well, I'll be in Austin for the next couple of years. All right, that's got to do it for us today. Casey Smith from Barstall. We always love her hanging out with this. Thank you so much, Casey. Thanks, well. All right, follow us on Spotify, Apple. We'll see you again next time. Listen to ad free with a Fox News Podcast Plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members who can listen to this show, ad, free on the Amazon Music app.