Will Cain Country - "Authoritarian" Or Just Tough On Crime? Examining President Trump's D.C. Crackdown! Plus, How To Eat Like Jesus (ft. Dr. Josh Axe)

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

Story #1: President Donald Trump’s deployment of the National Guard to D.C. has the Left melting down! Will unpacks the hysterical reaction from media elites who compare the move to the rise of a dictatorship.  Story #2: Dr. Josh Axe, Co-Author of 'The Biblio Diet,' joins Will to explain why much of today’s “healthy” advice is upside down and why Biblical tradition, not trendy fads, may be your body’s best bet for health. Story #3: After a 'Call Her Daddy' guest claims not to know who Joe Rogan is, Will wonders just how short pop culture memory is today. Will and The Crew test Gen Z’s recall with a quiz and realize just how fast fame fades. Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. 1. Washington, D.C. are we looking at the launch of the Fourth Reich? Or, two decades ago, perhaps the most brilliant television show in history on HBO, the Wire predicted exactly what we're seeing unfold in Washington, D.C. Two, diet, exercise, sleep, rest, was it all laid out for us long before? in the Bible with Dr. Josh Axe. Three, Howard Stern, call her daddy, Joe Rogan. Does your culture memory last more than a decade?

It is Will Kane Country, streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Will Kane Country YouTube channel. The Fox News Facebook page, but always available by subscribing it, Apple or on Spotify. Two days, Dan, tinfoil, Pat, and a big show for you today. Yesterday, I was scrolling through the doom loop of Instagram and X, and I stumbled upon Alexander Cooper, the host of Call Her Daddy. And she had on a guest, of whom I've never heard. I guess she has some level of fame.

Her name is Renee Rapp, and she said something absolutely inconceivable. And I thought it was actually also genuine. She asked, who is Joe Rogan? What would you do if you were forced to have dinner with a straight white man whose personality revolved around Joe Rogan being his religion? I need you to tell me something. Who the fuck is Joe Rogan? Because I saw something.

using, I saw a TikTok using his name today and I was like, what is that? And that was not the first time I'd heard this name, but I'm not sure who that is. He's not in Ocean's 11. No, he's. Who is this? Have you ever watched Fear Factor? No, what's that? Um, do you know what the UFC is?

What is this? The UFC, like UFC fights? He's a, he's a fighter? Well, I don't know. He has a podcast. Who is Joe Rogel? I think among cultural figures currently who you could remain in the dark as to their name recognition, you'd probably have to put Joe Rogan pretty low on the number of people who could ask that question in earnestness.

Who is Joe Rogan? And the weird thing about that is she actually invoked a movie now over 25 years old. She brought up Oceans 11. He's not in Oceans 11. And I thought, wow. is her culture memory not even capable of reaching back within the last decade

but at the same time then she's reaching back to the 1990s I don't know I can't wrap my brain around it so without what we do today is we've run through some of the biggest figures in pop culture over the last decade over the last 20 years

after the last 30 years and ask how far back does your memory go how far back is relevance remain in pop culture so get ready Connor

Until that, story number one. Donald Trump has ordered troops into Washington, D.C., the National Guard deployed to deal with the rising crime rate. It's a crime rate first highlighted right here on Wilcane Country and the Wilcane show. In fact, our charts, as mentioned yesterday, were used by the President of the United States in a White House press conference yesterday. That did not escape the attention of CNN. That did not escape the attention of their media critic, Brian Stelter, who in his newsletter today called it the Fox feedback loop. Will Kane reports that homicide rates per 100,000 in Washington, D.C., exceed third world capitals like Lagos, Nigeria, or Bogota, Columbia. Those very same stats, those very same charts shown yesterday by President Donald Trump.

While Brian Stelter, CNN, sees that as a farcical feedback loop, what I would ask him is, did President Lynda Bain Johnson ever watch Edward R. Murrow? Did President Ronald Reagan ever watch Walter Cronkite? Did a leader of the free world ever get facts and news from the media? No, what's upsetting CNN is not the fact that President Donald Trump is repeating the data reported by, Will Kane. He's upset by the fact President Donald Trump is not reporting the propaganda of CNN. It is not uncommon for world leaders to watch the news, to learn from the news, especially when you're talking about a high-quality program that happens to report the fact. Here's another way

of saying what Brian Stelter reported on CNN. Newscaster tells the truth. President repeats the truth. Imagine the dystopia. The dystopia is actually what they're talking about today. With President Trump ordering the National Guard to control the crime in Washington, D.C., this is finally, at long last, the fulfillment of the Handmaid's Tale fever dream, of the dystopian authoritarianism, of the rise of the Fourth Reich. Dan Carlin has perhaps the world's most popular history podcast, I guess, then placing him among the world's most renowned historians. That podcast is hardcore history. He also hopes, a political commentary podcast entitled Common Sense.

I've listened to Dan Carlin. I can't say often because it's like eating a 72-ounce steak in Amarillo, Texas. You have to take it down, bite by bite. We're talking about hours and hours on the rise of the Persian Empire, which I have done with great curiosity. And I've always thought of Dan Carlin as somewhat of an arbiter of the truth, an objective, voice. Not one interested in partisan politics. But yesterday, he revealed himself, like so many mainstream personalities, of having given in to hysteria, of having given in to dystopia of a belief in the Fourth Reich.

Carlin posted on X the following. Those of you who don't know what authoritarianism looks like, this is it. All the gas sliding about previous presidents, what aboutism, is BS. I've been talking about the slide towards now for 30 plus years. those earlier concerns were nothing. Now we are here. At this point, I think you are supposed to feel the exclamation points. At this point, hopefully, your hair is on fire.

Carlin goes on in a somewhat defensive manner. And this isn't partisan. This is the time for choosing. Do you support the Constitutional Republic or this one person, this one malinformed, narcissistic, completely non-empathetic, except for himself, version of an American wannabe Mussolini, because that's what this guy is. He continues, and here's the rub. If you don't see it, either because you are so blinded by your own partisanship, brainwashing,

or sunk cognitive dissonance costs, or it's because you wanted this all along. You can say, well, other presidents did this or that, but none have come close to doing all of this. You take the most extreme things. previous presidents have done, and Trump combines the most extreme single things into his long list of extreme things. One last post in which Carlin encourages you, not to look at the facts of history, but the totality, the narrative of history. Gaslight yourself till you're in the blue in the face.

I'm a person who knows history. We never had anything like this, and this is exactly what the founders worried about. I've been a multi-decade, I've been warning of a multi-decade slide to get here, but we're here. Everyone who is honest with themselves knows it. Thus concludes Dan Carlin. We're here. We're here at the advent of the Fourth Reich. This is the rise of authoritarianism.

This is the multi-year prediction, perhaps even the decade-long prediction of the fulfillment of Donald Trump's dictatorship. The deployment of National Guard troops into Washington, D.C. is the existential moment for the United States of America. So says, Dan Carlin. Well, I will take a moment to say I have always been concerned about the use of executive power. I've often said I think one of the best presidents and one of the most unrenowned presidents is President Calvin Coolidge, whose guiding light mantra was, do no harm. Historians look at the presidency of Calvin Coolidge and see largely a due. nothing president. But the Constitution binds, not just the executive, but the legislative,

and it preserves freedom for the people and federalism for the local district. But that in and of itself does not resign us to inaction. And for far too long, the form of the American government, and honestly, the mind of the American populace has become tolerant of inaction. Look, we've had now decades of illegal immigration flooding across our southern border, and we have been told that the reason that we cannot do anything about it is because we need a big bill. We need a compromise. We need a pathway to citizenship. We need more money.

We need more funding. We can't do it. We can't get it done. We can't close the border. Those were the exact words we heard for four years from Joe Biden. It took one month for President Trump to close the American southern border. To solve illegal immigration. we still have to solve the existing populace of illegal immigrants.

But we have stopped the flow of illegal immigration. We didn't need more money. We didn't need more funding. We didn't need a bill out of the legislature. It took executive will and executive authority, imbued by the Constitution and executive power. And it was solved. And what you're seeing, I believe, with President Trump, is executive will.

To not sit complacent and say we can't, we won't and ring our hands about our inability, but to solve problems. Is there a problem in Washington, D.C.? Well, many on the left today and in the mainstream media are repeating statistics that crime is down 30% in Washington, D.C. instead of 30-year-low, in fact. But the odd thing is it does fly in the face of not insignificant anecdotal evidence. You keep hearing about the quality of life in D.C. coming honestly from everywhere. Our old friend, Young Establishment James, now works in Washington, D.C. for a congressman. He texted us during the show yesterday. He said, I mean, you can go out to a bar. You don't feel safe walking out. You can see across your apartment street and you can see

with some level of frequency a carjacking. And that even forces the truth coming from the lips of Kira Phillips on ABC. We've been talking so much about the numbers. And yeah, usually that's how you play devil's advocate, as you talk about, oh, well, stats say crime is down. However, I can tell you firsthand here in downtown D.C. where we work, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know, there were two people shot. One person died, literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was within the last two years that I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down from here. And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen a block away from

the Bureau. So we can talk about the numbers going down, but crime is happening every single day because we're all experiencing it. Let's talk about numbers. If you're ranking top five television shows, you can't come up with five better than the wire. The show that hit the airwaves some little over 20 years ago on HBO is for me easily a top three. The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood, Game of Thrones. HBO did dominate prestige television, all of those HBO but for Breaking Bad. And the Wire, if you didn't watch it, I encourage you to do so. I think it still holds up.

It was written by David Simon, who is on the left, on the far left. And it talks about the drug trade in Baltimore. Each season follows a different aspect of the drug trade. The first is on the streets with the drug dealers. The second focuses more on the police side. The third, I believe, if I remember correctly, focuses in on the ports and the docks and the way that the drugs come in through and into Baltimore. The fourth focuses on the school system and kids and how they're raised into this culture. The fifth is the final season, and it focuses on the media.

But in one of the seasons and in one of the episodes, they started talking about the politics of crime. The politics of crime. And it shows how politics can change what you believe to be true. How the mayor, how the chief of police jukeed the stats on crime to convince the public, hey, we're doing something about crime. It's an iconic scene. And here it is from the wire. Juking the stats. Excuse me?

Making robberies into larcenies, making rapes disappear. You juke the stats and majors become colonels. Did everyone on the same section. Wherever you go, there you are. Juking the stats is how you make majors become colonels. It's how you make the chief of police become a mayor. It happens. It happens all the time in every city.

So while I give credibility to FBI stats, I do believe that crime is on the decline over the long haul. I really do, compared to the 1990s. crime is down. But I don't believe that Washington, D.C. is in a better place today than it has been in 30 years. In fact, the crime rate today, 187 homicides last year in Washington, D.C. puts it worse than 2014, 15, 16, better than 23, 24. So what's tolerant?

What's tolerable? What do you do? What's worth it? And who will do something about it instead of sitting on their hands? Oh, I can't. Oh, I need more money. That's the line today from Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. That's the line today from Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker.

And of course the line is, this is all a Fulgazi. It's fake. It's not real. It's an excuse. One reason for the excuse that they're suggesting is a distraction, a distraction from Jeffrey Epstein. The story that they didn't even know of or care for eight years. and now is their number one story. I care about Jeffrey Epstein.

I'm interested. I don't think this story should drop. We've talked about it here. I've told you what I believe to be the real case with Jeffrey Epstein. But hey, I got to acknowledge, do you care about Jeffrey Epstein? According to CNN's Harry Enten? No. I would say that this is from at least a political point of view,

quickly turning into a dud of a story. What am I talking about here? Which is wild. Which is wild. This has been for three weeks now. Exactly. Take a look here. Google searches for Epstein. Down 89% versus just three weeks ago falling through the floor. It is no longer the top term searched alongside Donald Trump's name. That's been trading off between Taros and Vladimir Putin with obviously the meeting coming up later this week. But at this particular point, the American people's interest in this story, it's quickly becoming something of a nothing burger. A dud, down 89% in three weeks.

I don't think that is relevant in terms of whether or not you should care about Jeffrey Epstein. I care about Jeffrey Epstein to repeat myself. I want to know. I don't think we ever will, but I want to know the truth about Jeffrey Epstein. But why would Donald Trump need to distract from something that the American public isn't caring about that searches and interest in has dropped almost 90%? Why would he need a distraction from that?

second oh he doesn't have the power oh this is an excuse if he had the power he would have done something on january 6th that was said by former house majority leader nancy pelosi she posted that whoa all of a sudden you have the power to deploy troops to washington dc but she didn't during january 6th pelosi suggesting she in fact did want to deploy troops on january 6th but the president got in the way the hard thing about that particular story is chief stephen sunned He was in charge of the law enforcement response that day on January 6th, responded quickly to Pelosi. He said, ma'am, it's long past time to be honest with the American people. On January 3rd, I requested National Guard assistance, but your Sergeant in Arms denied it.

Under federal law, to United States Code 1970, I was prohibited from calling them in without specific approval. That same day, Carol Corbyn at the Pentagon, offered National Guard support, but I was forced to decline because I lacked the legal authority. On January 6th, while the Capitol was under attack, and despite my repeated calls, your sergeant arms again denied my urgent requests for over 70 agonizing minutes, running it up the chain, quote, for your approval. When I needed assistance, it was denied. Yet when it suited you, you ordered fencing, topped with Constantina wire, and surrounded the Capitol with thousands of armed National Guard troops. That's several years later. saying it's you Nancy Pelosi that denied the authority on January 6th.

The point is this isn't some expose of January 6th. This isn't some distraction from Jeffrey Epstein. And it's not, in fact, the advent of the Fourth Reich, despite the predictions, sadly, of Dan Carlin. It is, in fact, a president who just like with the southern borders decided that the status quo is not tolerable, that if I can do something, I will do something. And whether or not that's illegal immigration or crime or inflation, what we're watching is a presidency of action. It is in some ways the opposite of Calvin Coolidge.

Action will create mistakes. Not everything will be perfect. But haven't we had it enough, long enough, of wringing our hands and asking the American public for more money so that you can stay in power, stay in office, your party in control, while nothing gets done. We're getting something done with President Donald Trump. Eat clean, eat right, get rest. Maybe just like they told us in the Bible.

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the relevant figures in American pop culture. It is Will Cain Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Making his debut today will be not two a day and not tinfoil pat, but Connor hanging out here on the Will Cain show. He's totally unprepared. I told the staff I do not want him ready. It's been scheduled for me to have a private conversation with Connor for quite some time.

I've delayed that. It's actually been weeks and I haven't called Connor on the phone, so I thought might as well interview Connor on air. Should Connor get a job here on Wilcane Country? We'll find out. Let's see if he can pass the test. Does he know what mattered in America in 1995? That's coming up in just a moment here on Wilcane Country. I want to bring you into the show, the Willisha, really quickly here. Patrick J.T. Lauer says, that's the problem with most American people. You've never lived outside of your own city, let alone traveled to a different state. go to Washington, go to Baltimore, go to a gas station at 1 a.m. in the morning and you let me know if you make it.

Penny McCrary says, we just want safe streets. Who do these thugs think they are attacking and carjacking? Medezzo says crime numbers are not going down. It's just not reported. And then Beast Gohan Overwatch says people need to see a response to set a message. It's not fascist to enforce the law in what is statistically lawlessness. Finally, Eve Melanie, over on Facebook, says the crackdown reflects a government more focused on forced than fixing root causes, real safety needs, investment in communities, not just tougher policing. With all due respect, Eve, haven't we just heard that same thing for decades? I agree, by the way, there are root causes much below deterrence and enforcement. We've talked about that here. If you've been hanging out, Eve, we hope that you'll continue to hang out.

You've got to talk about the family and you've got to talk about culture. You just have to if you're going to solve that, especially when it comes to juvenile crime. but this right here that can't be an excuse not to do something it's time to do something if democrats aren't careful they've now made themselves the party of illegal immigration criminals foreign terrorists no no no it's about principle limited government since when since don't trump you've hated don't trump to the point where now you're on the side of carjackers dr josh axe is the co-author of the bibliode he's also the host of the dr josh axo on YouTube, massive following, from what I hear,

millions joining you every day on YouTube to hear about everybody's interested in how to be healthy. Yeah, yeah, well, they should be. You know, I was looking at the statistics recently, America ranks 70th in the world, and overall longevity and overall health. And there's a lot of people today who have hormone imbalances, digestive issues,

chronic pain, heart disease, cancer, all these numbers keep coming, especially in our kids today. And, you know, I wanted to write a book and start teaching people to heal based on the Bible. I believe the Bible is the greatest book ever written, not just for our spiritual health,

but also for our physical health. There's content in the Bible about what to eat, about farming, about how to heal naturally. And so I think that we can heal this entire country if we follow a diet based on the Bible. Turning to the Bible as a source of wisdom is fascinating when applied, as you point out, outside the world of spirituality.

I mean, it is a cumulative knowledge of thousands of years. And I often say it's like tradition can't bind you. because we've made a lot of mistakes in human history. But it certainly should inform you. Yeah. Like, there's a reason something survives for thousands of years. There's a reason we have traditions. It's trial and error.

Yeah. And the Bible is an accumulation of that wisdom. Yeah. Well, you know, one of the things we see today is, and it's crazy. Sometimes this is political. I know you've seen this on the show. I've been a big part of this maha movement of Make America Healthy again, a big supporter of RFK Jr.

And going to Washington, D.C. and trying to help inform lawmakers on policy and what we need to start doing. But whether, no matter what political side someone's on, no matter what somebody believes about health, generally the Bible has great wisdom. And there's, you know, one thing that I notice with a lot of people is there's a lot of confusion out there.

There are so many different diets. You've got paleo, you've got vegan, you've got carnivore now, you've got keto. There are a lot of different diets now. So how should people decide or know what diet is best for them? And I really believe that God's wisdom, he lays it out in the Bible in terms of here are the best foods for us to eat. And, you know, I think that there are a lot of foods that are mentioned in the Bible that today, things like the American Medical Association and the pharmaceutical companies will say, now, stay away from those foods. But the Bible says they're healthy.

I'll give you an example, a few of those. Red meat, raw dairy, salt, consuming lots of fats, you know, those sort of things. So we see that the Bible, and here's another than bread, you know, almost none of the diets have bread anymore. But the Bible really goes through and says, you know, these foods can help you heal. These foods are healthy. And there's really a big difference today between the foods that, like the bread we eat versus the bread that Jesus ate. Yes. You know, there are, today our breads are much higher in carbohydrates, much higher in a protein called gluten.

And so a lot of people are having allergic reactions. A lot of people are gaining weight on this type of bread versus if you go to the ancient grains bread, bread. One type is called ein corn wheat. This sort of wheat is higher in fiber. It's higher in quality protein. It's easier to digest. They did a process called fermentation. So now you can absorb and digest all the nutrients. And so there's a lot of foods that the Bible talks about are healthy and healing that today do our modern farming practices and modern processing. We've sort of ruined if it's raw dairy is another one. People are getting put in jail for selling raw dairy products. but people have been consuming raw milk and dairy since the beginning of time up until about

100 years ago when pasteurization came into place. So there's a lot of foods today that people are missing out on that could help them heal, but due to sort of a lot of these modern policies and modern misunderstandings, they're not getting in their diet anymore. I was just on vacation a few weeks ago in Hawaii, and my wife and I went on this big, big long hike. It was Holly Akala and Maui. It takes about an hour and a half to drive up there. And I was like, I want to listen to something. So I found some podcast. I've always been on the search for like a good history podcast. And I found this one. It was okay, to be honest. And it was about, it really was a narrow focus history. And it was entitled, like, what did the Romans eat?

I was like, I'm going to listen to this. Yeah. And he was talking about bread, to your point. He's like, the bread that the Romans ate is not even conceivable to the bread that you eat today. Yeah. It was grainy, crunchy rocks sometimes in the bread. You break a tooth in the bread. And it was just far, it was a far cry from fluffy white bread. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And there are, you know, one of the things that sourdough. So my wife, we know, Carrie Underwood did a post, my wife said, and we know them. They're from Nashville, too. And she saw them doing this post over COVID when there were all these lockdowns. And my wife is like, I'm going to start making sourdough bread. This is like in 20, 2021. And by the way, the number of people making sourdough now at their house and homesteading is going

through the roof. And I started doing all this research on sourdough bread. And it's crazy at how much more nutrient denses. I'm talking about at least tenfold in a lot of cases. Because if you buy your regular bread today, you're absorbing very little of it. There's actually something that binds to the minerals. It's called phytic acid. So when you eat just regular bread today, you're absorbing almost none of the minerals, none of the vitamins. Versus when you ferment something or do Ezekiel bread, which is sprouted, sprouted in fermenting, basically unlocks all of the nutrients so now you can absorb them.

So you are getting so many more nutrients consuming a bread that is either sourdough fermented or sprouted. I've seen RFK recently. He was on Fox News with my friend, Rachel Campos Duffy, talking about his diet. And he was talking, and I'm probably pretty much in the vein of whatever the popular diets are, they wash over me. Meaning that's how much I consume. I'm not overly focused. Maybe at my age, I think more. I try to eat a ton of protein.

And I try to eat as few calories as possible. That's basically what I do. And that pushes me into, I think, some good choices. I eat a lot of yogurt or dairy or cottage cheese. I eat a lot of meat. Yeah, right. I don't eat a lot of carbs, and I probably should be eating more vegetables.

But he was saying something that I hadn't heard about, and it's not really washed over me in the way. Talk about fermentation. He was saying, I eat a lot of fermented stuff. He said, coleslaw, kimchi. What's so good about fermentation? Yeah, well, it's high in probiotics. You know, today we are bombarded with antibiotics.

In fact, most people don't think they're getting many antibiotics, but 80% of the antibiotics given the United States are given to livestock. So if you eat dairy from a conventional animal, you're getting antibiotic residue in your body. All of these hand sanitizers, all of these chemicals sprayed even on our food like chlorine, those have antibiotic properties. They're killing off good bacteria. This is a big reason why we have such a rise in autoimmune disease and kids allergies.

I mean, think about how many, like the allergies kids have today versus 50 years ago. It is so much different today. And it's because all of these antibiotics kill good bacteria in our gut. 70% of your immune system lives in your gut. So if you don't have good bacteria, you can't absorb nutrients. Actually, probiotics create nutrients that you don't even have. So there are a lot of reasons why it's critically important detoxification of your colon. So when Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is saying he does a lot of probiotic rich foods, things like yogurt and sourcrow and kombucha,

these foods are replenishing the good bacteria, which is good for digestion, absorption in nutrients, numerous things. And really, it was the ancient way of preserving food. because they didn't have refrigeration. And so today we get very little fermented food in our diet, but it's probably one of the number one things, if not the number one thing, to heal your gut. In addition, I wanted to say, go off of something you said there. If people are wondering, what are a few things I can do right now? Increase your protein intake, lots of meat. In fact, one of the things we cover here in the book, the Bibliot Diet is Solomon, the wisest man to ever live, along with Jesus, the number one thing he ate was meat. In fact, there's something in the Bible

called Solomon's Provisions, where he goes through what he ate every day, and it was like, lamb, beef, elk, you know, all of these, all this wild game. So number one, get more meat. You want to consume, for most people, 30 to 40 grams of protein three times a day. So a lot of protein. And then vegetables, fruits, healthy fats, and fermented food. Those are kind of the fab five we all need more of. All right, the book you've co-authored is the Biblio Diet, looking back to the Bible, to the wisdom of the ages and what they ate. What One of the diets that seems to ring true that has some level of common sense and some maybe even anecdotal like, oh, those people look healthy, evidence to it is the Mediterranean diet. A lot of fish, a lot of oils, a lot of nuts.

Is that have a lot of overlap with the Bibliot Diet? You know what? I would say of all the diets, it does have the most overlap there. I will say, though, here's where they're different. One of the reasons we wrote the Bibliad Diet is we wanted to write the diet, especially for Christians. for Christians saying, I want to eat the diet most aligned with God's design for me. It is the Bibliot Diet number one. A lot of people are following a paleo diet.

The paleo diet is based on this sort of evolutionary principle that's very anti-Christian and untrue. And I've actually had a lot of people who followed a paleo diet. It was bad for their body, eating a lot of raw nuts and seeds, eating a lot of pork, eating a lot of butter and bacon. It just is not a great diet for a lot of people. The evolutionary tie-in that you just talked about with the paleo diet, see if I know that and understand that. I have read and been taught that one of the big leaps forward in humanity was the growth of the brain. In order for the brain to grow, it required a ton of protein. So the minute we started, I guess, the ability to hunt down big animals, who

weren't just hunters and gathers, but we actually had big excess food, excess protein, excess meats, it allowed us to advance with bigger brains. Is that what you're alluding to when you talk about the evolutionary approach of the paleo diet? It is. That's the evolutionary idea. The Christian The Christian idea, Judeo-Christian, is in Genesis 9-3, after the flood, God tells Noah, now you can eat the things that creep on the ground and move on the ground along with the plants. That's what he says. Everyone can go look at Genesis 9-3. So the Christian view is, no, now we need it.

And there might have been a change in the environment after the flood, possibly to where we needed more protein. And that's why he's recommending at that point. But I do believe that protein and consuming meat products is an essential part of a diet. and I've worked with thousands of patients, and I've had so many vegans and people come in to don't eat meat, and they have major deficiencies. And so I think that's important. I'll say where the Mediterranean diet and a biblical diet differ probably

is in maybe even the protein consumption, because Mediterranean diet is more moderate protein. It's really the focus is on fish. Really, there's no red meat, very little chicken. So it's really, it's more of a pescatarian diet for the most part, whereas a biblical diet really promotes a lot of grass-fed organic meat products that are red, you know, red meat. And I think this is important for iron for women. It's the highest source of creatine. So very important for building muscle for men. CLA is in there.

It has anti-cancer benefits. So I would say that's probably the biggest difference is sort of actually a biblical diet promotes more protein and more meat than a Mediterranean diet is probably one of the major differences. All right. So what's your approach to pork? Do you eat pork? Absolutely not. Really? Absolutely not. No. And here's why. I don't believe it's a in. I don't believe we're under the law when it comes to eating pork. However, I do believe God said don't eat pork and shellfish just because they're not healthy. Science proves this today as well. Pork is the great, and anyone can go look this up. Pork is the number one carrier of parasites in the entire world. In fact, if you're going to get parasites eating food, by far your

greatest chance is by consuming pork. And so in pigs, they have a digestive system similar to humans that's known as a mono chamber digestive system. So they digest very fast, but they store toxins. Cows, bison, elk, all of these other chickens. Many of them, like cows, have a multi-chamber digestive system. It takes 24 hours for them to digest food. They don't store toxins. So that's the big differences. They would be, they'd call, we call them bottom feeders or scavengers when we talk about shrimp and pork specifically. They store toxins like parasites, like bad viruses, like bacteria. And so that's the big reason why I tell people not to eat pork is that I believe that it's your greatest, you have the greatest risk of getting a pathogen if you're consuming pork.

And I just think, you know, chicken, beef, more nutrient dense, a much better option. Okay. We'll be right back on Will Kane Country. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more, more perks, more points, more flights. more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card and then some get your ticket to more with the new bemo v i porter master card and get up to twenty four hundred dollars in value in your first thirteen months terms and conditions apply visit bemo dot com slash v i porter to learn more this is jason chafetz from the jason and the house podcast join me every monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests listen and follow now at or wherever you download podcasts. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. This ties us into the past and the present

and perhaps even the future. As I mentioned, I think there's a lot of wisdom in the ages and if there's a reason that that was written into the Bible, you shouldn't eat pork or you shouldn't eat shellfish. My belief at the time is there was a reason at the time because it was one of these carriers of great diseases and it was about health and it was codified and turned into a way of life.

But as we move along, modern scientists and inventions, like, okay, we know how more properly to prepare and cook pork, and it's not as dangerous. And so it becomes something more palatable to the modern diet. So let me ask you that in combination with, how do you reconcile that, yes, this is wisdom, but wisdom can adapt to the ages. I do believe until very recently, lifespans have expanded, we have been healthier until recently, right? If we take this over a great arc, you compare us to our ancestors, to the 50s. The 1400s, the 1400s, our lifespans are longer. They dealt with violence and a lot of other things and not the advent of medicine and hygiene. But we did make great advances.

Sure. And so how do we account for the advances? And for the record, I do think something changed in the last half century where the advances almost started to eat themselves, as you talk about with over-processed things. But we can't ignore that we did make advances and did those advances not help us to understand, oh, you can make, for example, pork a healthy part of your diet. Yeah, well, I think, let me just say this. If somebody's going to make an argument that pork is a healthier form of meat,

they're going to lose every time. I mean, there's no way you could compare pork in its nutritional value to salmon, to bison, to even pasture-raised eggs. I mean, it's going to, so my point is it's going to be low on that. By the reason I don't eat it often. I find it my fourth meat. So it would be chicken is probably the number one consumed meat in my household, followed by red meat, followed by fish. Pork is like, oh, yeah, we haven't had pork in well.

Every time I do eat it, it's like I forget high and protein, low in calorie. It's a chicken-esque type of meat. Yeah, so I'll tell you a quick story. So my cousin's a hunter, and he went on his hunt and killed a wild boar. And this is when I was back in college. And he saved a bunch of it, put it in the freezer, and ate it for about a month. And then at the end of the month, I saw him, he was walking around with a shirt off. And he started getting, he had these yellow lesions all over his low back.

And I'm like, hey, what, have you, have you seen what's going on there? He's like, yeah, it's just some sort of rash. Well, it turns out he had a parasitic infection that was so bad. It was coming out of his skin. And this was wild boar, the cleanest of the clean boar. He cooked it into saw. I mean, it was, it was, you know, turned into sausage. So, so here's what I would say is, is that one, I, listen, are, is it possible that somebody could

really cook pork well and do wild boar and they're not going to have any parasites at all possibly but also there's even things like i mentioned antibiotic residue parasite residue i again i i don't think that it's generally healthy do i think some people can get away with it if your immune system's healthy you're physically active yeah i think people can get away with and there's no doubt that cooking it properly your chance of getting these types of infections goes down dramatically I still don't think it's, let me just say this too. Shrimp is another example of this. It's the highest food in dioxins in all of the ocean.

In fact, there are studies on this saying it's the dirtiest food in all of the sea. So that being said, you know, it's still, there's still carers of toxins, but can we get away with more today? I absolutely think we can. But I do going back to this, really think that the Bible is sharing a lot of wisdom here in terms of, hey, here are the best foods to eat. There's a lot of foods that the Bible talks about. One of the foods it talks about the most is pomegranate. Today, we've seen it contains a compound cartilic acid, which helps boost something called your mitochondrial health,

which is probably the number one thing you do for longevity. It talks about figs. This is an amazing healing food. It talks about extra virgin olive oil, of course, sort of the Mediterranean diet as the number one oil for healing. And when you look at studies in terms of the best oil for your health, by far, nothing else even comes close. Olive oil is the best.

So, again, I think getting back to the way God designed us and eating more real foods, especially locally and that are organic, there are great benefits there. And, you know, one of the thing I'll just share, too, is there are so many people today that are suffering from major health conditions, whether it be cancer, heart disease, diabetes, being overweight. And I think a biblical diet gives them their greatest chance. And my mom had cancer. My mom reversed cancer naturally following a diet based on the Bible combined with some functional medicine wisdom. You know, she juice vegetables. She ate lots of pomegranate while. salmon, lots of herbs, used essential oils, and was able to do that. And my co-author in this book

reversed Crohn's disease and ulcer of colitis following a biblical diet as well. So let me ask you about this, because we are focused on the bibliot diet, but in part, it's not just, and so I don't want you to think that I'm just diminishing it to the wisdom of the ages. It's the wisdom of the Bible in particular of those ages. But I was talking about how we saw advances in human longevity and health there for a while. One of my favorite stories is, you know, Thomas Malthus was a guy in the early 1800s used to predict, you know, that we were overpopulating the earth and that there'd be a huge decline in the human population based upon starvation, just not enough food. And he wasn't stupid. He like did the math, available,

arable farmland, you know, number of people, calories needed, and just computed it out. It's like unsustainable. What Malthus didn't account for was a series of innovations over time from modern fertilizer instead of first it was bat guano the discovery of bat guano as a fertilizer he didn't account for that then it was synthesized fertilizer later and then it was the combustion engine which took away the need for beasts of burden and now we had tractors because beasts of burden eat a lot of the food right yeah horses ox cows eat a lot of the available food

supply so he just didn't and then and then ultimately what he didn't account for is genetic modification of foods. Wheatstocks that went from three feet tall to nine feet tall. All that to mean caloric accessibility exploded. Oh yeah. And population

exploded. And you say well that's a good thing. Like human thriving is a good thing and we have all this like available food. But I guess I'm leading you towards what appears to be this modern miracle and then at times now it looks like we're paying the price for that miracle as we

over indexed in that direction and we have health problems. Yeah, you're 100% right. We have gone way overboard here. In fact, if I were going to sort of pinpoint our biggest reason why I have chronic illness in the United States state outside of stress, I would say the next biggest thing is overconsumption of sugar and then general carbohydrates and calories because now we have so many calories available. And the other thing I would say is, you,

When you look at the Bible, starting off in Genesis, the Garden of Eden was what we would call a perennial food forest. So Adam wasn't planting wheat or soy or these things you have to plant every single year. He was tending fruit trees, which grow and produce every year in berry bushes and these sort of perennial foods. And these are foods that are higher in fiber, more nutrient dense, lowering calories compared to grains. So that's really what we start to see in the Bible. And I really believe Genesis, we were called to make the entire earth like. like a, the Garden of Eden, spread it throughout the entire world. And then we had sort of the creation of grains or the start of the production of grains.

And of course, then we start eating, you know, meat there as well. But overall, if we were farming correctly, the Bible teaches us exactly how to farm. And it's called regenerative agriculture. Some people are starting to do this today. And it's where you do more of these perineal foods. It's more fruit trees. It's more berry bushes. It's more vegetables.

It's more. And then you have the animals graze in and out. amongst those trees, fertilizing the soil. So you're not having to kill the soil to release carbon. You're not having to, the beasts of bird and sort of wear them out. They're just simply walking around eating, you know, basically fertilizing the soil. So there's a way to, and by the way, we would feed so many more people that way. So many more people, if we followed the farming principles based on the Bible, it just takes a little bit longer to get going. We're into all of these shortcuts and in doing things more quickly. But the Bible is a solution for that.

Well, and you've written about this in the book. The majority of our conversation is focused on the physical health attributes of this entire diet. But I know that's not your entire focus. You did bring up some of the problems with kids, mental health, attention deficit disorder, even spiritual, even spiritual elements, which, by the way, I believe, meaning I look at children, you know, and I see my son, and if he comes home from school and he just starts opening packages, right? Packages. I talked to him about that. Like, eat real food, man. Don't go straight for the chips. And by the way, he just hit a health kick. Sometimes sins are great motivators. Vanity is a great motivator. Something happened this summer where he's like, I don't

want to. I want to be big and strong. And now he's focused on all these, like, good foods. Yeah. But before it was like open a package of goldfish. And I do think that weighs not just on your mental health, but your spirit. Yeah. You know, there's this, I recorded a podcast on this recently in terms of getting into all the research of this mind-body connection. I mean, you know, 80% of doctors visits today are stress-related. They're due to emotional, you know, childhood trauma you're still living with today, mental health issues, depression, anxiety, all those sort of issues. But the other, it works the other way too. Bad digestive health actually increases your risk of depression, anxiety, lack of motivation in a massive way.

I mean, I feel it. If I eat like crap, I, feel. Yeah. Like, not just physically, but like, you feel down. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, there are, there are cures for that. And a big part of it is that one of the biggest things we're missing today in our diet are healthy fats, especially omega-3s and especially fats rich in polyphenols. Fastest way to fix that, do a lot of omega-3s from wild-caught salmon and walnuts as a great source of that. Dr. X, do you supplement at all? I do. Yeah, I do. I mean, if I don't eat salmon that day or I don't eat wildcat fish, I will do about 1,000 to 2,000 milligrams of a fish oil supplement.

I do that. I do a vitamin D supplement. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, and similar thing, I'm kind of, if I got enough sun that day, I don't take it. But if I don't, like definitely fall, winter, spring. I'm always taking a vitamin D supplement as well. I mean, one reason is, is, and you've probably seen this statistic, about 100 years ago, most

jobs were agriculture related. I mean, over 50%. Today, it's like 2%. I mean, it is so, so low. So most people are spending so much time outdoors, getting plenty of sunshine every day. Today we don't. Our number one deficiency today by far is vitamin D.

94% of people don't get enough vitamin D. So I just got back from vacation and everyone's talk is all the trends on skin cancer, which is a real thing. And I know people that have had skin cancer. But that's like, do the sunscreens help? Do the sunscreens hurt? Have you seen the stuff about sunglasses? Like, are sunglasses bad for you?

So here's my opinion on that. that here's the first thing to know, don't get burnt, okay? There's no doubt the studies show if you burn your skin and increases your risk of cancer. However, most of the studies show that if you're not getting burnt, the more sun you get, the less skin cancer melanoma you actually will have. Now, in terms of the sunglasses, I've actually been saying this for like 20 years, but I think that if you're wearing sunglasses all the time,

your eyes are directly connected to your brain. And really, it's also going to be connected to your cortisol. and melatonin levels, you want to, you want your eyes to be exposed to the sun. You don't look directly at the sun, but you want them to be exposed so cortisol can get up and it knows when to start going down. And so much of this has to do with the way God designed us,

living in tune with what we call our circadian rhythms. When the sun goes down, we should start going down. When the sun comes up, we should start getting up. But also, you do, listen, if I was down in 30A recently down in the panhandle of Florida, and it's white beach there and I was like going blind like I'm like okay I almost never wear sunglasses I wore them because it was that bright I was squinting so badly but overall I think generally people should wear sunglasses very little because it's actually disrupting your hormones to a degree if you're not allowing that that seeing some of that natural sunlight really interesting

one more supplement question and I want to talk to you about rest really quickly do you take creatine I do so so not just through natural foods I do as well I take I And it's very popular. Yeah. By the way, it was when I was in college, too. So we took it then in the 90s. It kind of went away, but now it's back with a force. Oh, yeah, it is.

I remember in high school, you know, playing high school sports. And, you know, actually, we had like a tub of it. Like, people would just, you know, put it in their water bottle and be drinking it all day. So here's what I would say when it comes to supplements. Number one, try and do more food-based supplements. They're more absorbable. Your body recognizes them more, things like a food-based multivitamin, omega-3 fatty acid supplement, like a fish oil, doing a green or red superfood powder,

food-based vitamins like vitamin D. That should be your primary source of nutrients we're getting. In addition to that, I think that getting certain nutrients we're very deficient in. I mean, creatine is found naturally, number one, it's found in heart glandulars. So like our ancient ancestors ate a lot of organ meats. So it's found there the most along with muscle meat. So if you do a steak, you're getting about five. 500 milligrams of creatine. So it's something naturally that you're finding food. But I do think that most people, both men and women, could benefit greatly because when you can put on muscle, it's so good for your blood sugar levels. It's so good for longevity. It's so good for men for testosterone, human growth hormone. So I think most people could benefit from being on a creatine supplement about 1 gram to 5 grams daily.

Okay, let's talk about rest really quickly. You're not going to like this, because a lot of my stories are pagan. I can tell, like, my analogies and stories are pagan. And they're also very, they're very inaccurate. They're just summarizations of things I've seen on TV or heard. But let's talk about sleep for a minute. Yeah. Okay, so we all at this point recognize the importance.

I think that the fad of, oh, I don't sleep much, is a little bit gone. Everyone understands that it's important. Yeah. So with how and how much is the question. So there was a time, and I'm just going to ramble here for a minute, but, you know, eight is always in our head, eight hours, eight hours, eight hours. When I was in college, I played water polo, and we had a morning practice. And so for college students, we were pretty sleep deprived, but not because we were partying.

We were always like, you know, it's hard to get to bed and wake up at five in college and get what you need. And we learned about, at least we believed at the time, 90-minute cycles, that your rim cycles are 90 minutes, and try to just get a complete rim cycle. So what is that? If you get six would be four cycles, right? Seven and a half would be the fifth cycle. And then I just saw a thing the day, again, it's probably just inaccurate on X.

Like, you don't need eight. You need six to seven. So I don't know. And then the Vikings, they said the Vikings slept in two, three-hour segments. You know, they woke up in the middle of the night. What is, what do you think? What does the Bible say about sleep?

Well, I think, again, it's all, listen, the three-man world religions believe that we came from the dust of the earth. We were made from mud. We're literally made from this earth. We have a deep connection to God's creation. In fact, when we go to heaven, we don't go somewhere. Like, heaven is here. This world is going to be remade into a heavenly place.

That's what the Bible teaches. And so we're meant to be connected to the earth, the sun when it rises, when it falls. So I believe, again, when the sun sets, we should be going to bed. When it rises, we should be getting up, generally speaking. I think you need more sleep in the winter, in less than the summer, even based on your geography. Here's the other thing I will tell you, at least for myself. When I was in college, I would fall asleep fast. And I would sleep through the whole night without waking up once.

Same. And then I would wake up. Today, I hate to say this. Like, sometimes it takes me longer to go to bed. Sometimes I wake up at 3 a.m. Sometimes I wake up at 5. And I'm not sleeping as deeply as strongly. And when you're younger, you're more resilient as well.

So I do think that younger people can probably get a bit more. away with more. But some of the stuff catches up to us later. I think that people can get away with the research shows seven hours of sleep. If you're sleeping that long and you're sleeping well, okay? But I think for a lot of people, they're not sleeping. Your deep sleep should ideally be almost two hours. And so should your rum sleep. For a lot of people, and I know this because I track mine with an or ring with a device here, that's about what it should be. And that's what I think the research shows. For a lot of people, they might be. in bed eight hours or even seven hours, but they're not getting that deep restorative sleep.

And the other thing is just listen to your body. 80% of people say they're tired. You know, so if you're tired, listen to your body, you need more sleep or you need to be less busy during the day. And that's another problem. It's not just the lack of sleep. Most people fill up their schedules from the second they wake up to the second they go to bed and they're rushing through their entire day.

But the only counterpoint to that is sometimes being tired of. leads to being tired, I feel like. You know what I mean? Yeah. Those days that you sleep in, maybe on a Saturday and you're lazy and you don't do much that day, I kind of find myself like, I'm tired all day. Sometimes like when I get up and I get going and I get a workout, that creates a momentum that carries me through my day.

And I think there's two things to consider there. One is sometimes when we get neurologically in a fighter flight state where our body starts releasing cortisol, that doesn't mean that you should. shouldn't be rusting then. I think you can get your body up. You can take caffeine. You can take stimulants or you can just emotionally sort of energize yourself or work out and allow that cortisol to be released as well. But sometimes when our body is tired when you sleep in, I think your body is like, okay, finally, finally, let's go ahead and stay tired. Let's go ahead and try and recover today because I know what's coming up. So I think our bodies are really smart.

And you write about that. You write about the Sabbath. Like the day, like let's take today. Let's recuperate today. Well, I think we should take a day a week and just not work, not rest, devoted to God and family. And I think it's very, very healing. I think, you know, rest is when our body regenerates. If you think about it like this, our bodies have all these little batteries. They're called mitochondria. And they produce cellular energy. They run our organs. They are what give us energy. Most people are very depleted in this sort of imagine you've got, I used to, my grandparents had this golf cart. And when it got low on batteries, it kind of putted along and barely made it. And most people are running like that. This is why, like, women have so much.

hypothyroidism today, so many women. Why men have low testosterone. Part of it is their cellular energy and mitochondria are so low, they don't have energy to run and fuel their organs. And so that's a, and that's something I have a virtual practice and I take care of a lot of patients where we go through. Here's exactly how to heal these root issues. And for a lot of people, it's their body doesn't have enough energy. What's fascinating stuff. Dr. Josh Axe, the book is the Bibliot Diet. He's the co-author. There it is. If you're watching on YouTube or Facebook, you can see a copy of the Bibliot Diet right there. A lot of wisdom, as we all know from the Bible. Maybe we just haven't thought about it in this context and also how to live a healthy

lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. Again, I think this diet really goes through what Jesus ate, what Solomon ate, and how to heal to reverse, you know, everything from heart disease, how to actually fight cancer, how to reverse autoimmune disease, heal your gut with a biblical diet and lifestyle. Fasting, we get into all of it. We appreciate you hanging out. Coming up to Dallas from San Antonio, we wish you'd luck getting back to Nashville, safe travels, and check out the Bibliot Diet. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Dr. Josh Axe. Okay. A popular, famous individual says she doesn't know who Joe Rogan is, that led us to believe and ask, hey, do you know, can your pop culture

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see you there. The Willisha. Now it was a fascinating conversation we just had with Dr. Josh Axe, big YouTube channel and the co-author of a brand new book, The Bibliotide. As he was walking out, I held up my can of nicotine and I said, hey, is this in the Bible? I don't think he gave it to the appropriate attention, he said, I think you're all good there. And then Dan, you said, they smoked in the Bible. Come on. I said, no, I don't think so. They used something. I think smoking tobacco, it feels like one of the most ancient of things. I want you to chat GPT me real quick. I want you to AI this. I believe that is an American, a uniquely American crop. And that's why it was

one of the first big exports, and they didn't smoke in Europe before discovering America. I believe I have that history correctly, stated. I see Tenfold Pat and his visor, like he's about to go coach, he's the new offensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars, nodding along with me. The visor. Let's talk about the visor for a minute. My old friend at ESP and Ryan Rassillo used to talk about certain coaches having coordinator face, and it's really funny if you think about it like some guys just don't look like head coaches they look like coordinators and he'd say they have coordinator face you could be offensive coordinator you could be defensive coordinator and by the way i think those are different faces you know mustache guy built or heavy

defensive coordinator visor a little too pretty offensive coordinator i contend that the visor is an offensive coordinator look and should be retired once being hired as head coach. Brian Schottnheimer, the new head coach of Dallas Cowboys, is not only a visor guy, backwards visor. Patrick looks like he's about to yell at someone for not running hard enough. It's giving me PTSD from that.

I'm more of a special teams guy. He looks like, no, with the glasses and the offense coordinator, he looks like the coach that never gets too worked up, doesn't yell. He's back there. going, that play didn't work. What if I switch the X and the Z receiver? Does he coddle the guys, though?

Is he the codler? Can I communicate this to my quarterback? I feel like he's the coddler. It's all academic to tinfoil pat. Yeah. He's all, no, he's the nerdy academic offensive coordinator, you know? The one that thinks it's all math. That's what I think he is.

So that's what you look like right now. You look like you're about to get your first head coaching job and go one in 16. That's what you look like. You look like you're two years away from unemployment. and having to take a quarterback's coach job at a D3 program. Teach Pop Warner. You're going to get your shot. We just all know you don't have the quarterback.

You're not as good as you think you are. It's probably a two-year run you're going to get with a franchise like the Titans. And then at best, after that, you're going to be hired to be somebody's quarterback coach. Before you know it, you're coaching the Delaware Blue Hens. That's what I think your future is, just looking at you today. North Turner got a lot of extra shots, just saying. all right tell me about tobacco two a days so you're right i was wrong it just seems like something that would be old so tobacco and smoking plants wasn't um invented i guess you could say until

christopher columbus came here into the america so it's strictly america's that started that um they did burn incense and oils tobacco american in the bible there are a lot of things that are frankincense mer But didn't come over until we've discovered the Americas, like tomatoes, potatoes, things that we think are European. Yeah, tomato sauce is not Italian. It's actually South America. Yeah, I've recently learned that too. And that wild?

Think of it as Italy. No. That's not what Italian food is. That's America, like tobacco. Okay. This, I stumbled across just so today, and it really blew my mind. This is from Call Her Daddy. What would you do if you were forced to have dinner with a straight white man whose personality revolved around Joe Rogan being his religion?

I need you to tell me something. Who the fuck is Joe Rogan? Because I saw something using, I saw a TikTok using his name today. And I was like, what is that? And that was not the first time I'd heard this name, but I'm not sure who that is. He's not in Ocean's Eleven. I just saw this. Joan, again. Why does this generation blend their words together? What if a straight white man?

They sound like they're so exhausted by everything and they need a nap. That affectation is the way they talk. It's the worst. I hate the everything is so stupid affectation. I feel like local sports media is infused with that. Everything is so stupid. How does this chick, Renee Rapp, who I don't know who she is at all. Should I know? Let's look up that while we're talking here.

Who the hell is Renee Rapp? How does she not know who Joe Rogan is? And for that matter, how does she know Oceans 11? Like if she's too young and too new to the scene, too Gen Z to know Joe Rogan, how does she know Oceans 11? Hey, isn't Ocean's 11 the first one tinfoil? Isn't that the one? I mean, they came out in like, what?

What year did Oceans 11? 2001, 99? Yeah, early 2000s, the 11th, then 12, 13, yeah, right? She's pretending. So she pop culturally knows something from 01 but doesn't know Joe Rogan. That's impossible. You think she's pretending today? I think it's put on, oh, I don't know who that is.

Like, I don't like things that are cool type of thing, or I don't like things that are popular. I think it's BS. Oh. It's like the dudes who go. So, oh, sports ball. What's sports ball? Yeah, it's the sports ball attitude. Yeah.

Oh. Yeah. Could be. I could be wrong. I don't know. She's an actress and a singer. Do you guys hear about, do you guys hear about speaking of Caller Daddy, the host, which Dan didn't know is

Alexander Cooper. I'm sorry. Apparently Howard Stern is super, according to Barstool, I saw this report. Howard Stern is super jealous of Alexander Cooper, not happy. How much attention. and money she's getting at Sirius X-M. They have to organize the hallways, so whenever she's in New York,

she's based out of L.A., she won't run into Howard Stern. Howard Stern, being very ugly, petty, and Narcethe. You know what? He always was. He always was. It's just like fame and wealth

can overcome that for a little bit. Fame and wealth can paper over, paper over, gloss over. your narcissism, your insecurities for a long time, but not forever. Anyway, I was thinking about this check, Renee Rapp, and not knowing Joe Rogen, and I was thinking about a little bit of a broader thought, is relevance so fleeting now? Let's just take this as a possibility. Let's just for a moment assume.

She really doesn't know Joe Rogan, who is as relevant today as he was eight years ago, But is it so fleeting and attention spans so short that the idea of pop culture relevance only lasts, like, less than a decade now? Like, I do believe when I was growing up, okay? Connor, how old are you? 23. 23. Folks, Connor has been working on our show in the background for quite some time. We've been meeting to have a phone call together, but as is the case, I'm really bad at communication.

So we haven't. So this is it. So, Connor, are you going to work on Wilcane Country? I think I've been working on it. Wow. I've been making your thumbnails and your YouTube titles. Wow. He's already in.

Didn't need that call with the boss. Didn't need the call with me. He's already on Wilcane Country. One thing I didn't know until today. is that you now have the second deepest voice on this show, which busts me down to maybe fourth or third, and I'm not too happy about that. That's why I wanted him here. That's going to be

a real knock on your resume. My gosh, 23 years old and you sound like you've been chewing rocks like the Marlboro rim. You smoke reds or something? Oh, no. How do you get a voice like that? He's in the two-day school

of talk. I was 23 in 1998. If you had asked me in 1998 about stars from the 80s, yes, without a doubt. I think if you'd ask you about stars from the 70s, I would get it. I think if you asked me about stars from the 60s,

I would get it. But has something happened? Has pop culture relevance declined and become so fleeting and attention span so short that you really can't do that anymore. You can't call back. So I think at 23, you're Gen Z. I think you're Gen Z, Connor, right? Yeah, no, I think I was a 02 baby.

people say it starts in 97 but I think it kind of depends on who you ask okay so you're just say you're clearly Gen Z got me wondering would you know people that were famous a decade ago two decades ago let's see with you as our guinea pig whether or not pop culture relevance has declined and you can't do what I think I could have done when I was your age reach back 30 years. All right. So we're going to play a little game here, a little quiz for Connor.

And I think two days, you want to lead us through this? You put this little quiz together. And by the way, I think tinfoil and I should also see if we can pass this test. Because I'm not sure. I think my pop culture awareness has declined. I'm not sure I'll get 05 and 15. Let's do it and I'll give you the reins, take it away two a days. All right, so 2015, when Connor was 13 years old.

Oh, good. We're going to go with someone named Fetty Wop. Do you know who Fettie Wap is? He's like a rapper or something, right? Hold on, Connor. Hold on, Connor. Tinfoil, do you know who Fetty Wap is? I've literally never heard of him.

Wow. I'm not really big into the hip-hop. This is the first time in my life I've ever heard the name Fettywap. He was, you know, what did you say? I know nothing about him, but I'm pretty sure he's like a rapper, hip-hop musician of some sort. Ding, ding, ding. Connor got it. So he was one of the biggest artists in 2015.

Trap Queen, 679. Like, he was one of the biggest rappers at that time. You couldn't go anywhere without hearing of music. Fascinating. Nothing. All right. Second one. 2015, Ronda Rousey.

Yes, tinfoil? I can do that, yeah. All right, we're going to make you go last. on these, Connor. Do you know who Rhonda Rousey is Connor? Go ahead. I have no idea who Ron. I've heard the name before. I could not tell you anything about her. What she does or what she did? No. Okay. Interesting. Really? Now that one's more interesting to me. She was big. She was huge. Rhonda Rousey. Is she like a singer? She is not a singer.

No. Maybe she tried to be. She's not a singer. Rhonda Rousey was at one time, I think this is a fair statement. You two ten foil and two days, correct me if I'm wrong. The most famous female athlete, most certainly the most famous female UFC fighter still probably is of all time. And her popularity at the time rivaled that of Connor McGregor. And people talked about Ronda Rousey, like, could she fight a man? Could she beat a man? She was so good, so hyped up, so big time in the UFC. Yeah, she was big time. All right, third one from, last one from 2015. Do you know who, do you guys know who Brian Williams is? Obviously, you guys do. You guys do?

Yeah, Tinfoil and I know Brian Williams, of course Do you know who Brian Williams? You know it, right, Tinfoil? I do not know who Brian Williams. Wait, wait, 10foil. Yeah, yeah, I know Brian Williams. Tenfoil. You know who he is? Okay, there was a hmm there.

All right, Connor does not know either. For some reason, I'm a little more forgiving of this one. He's huge. I'm more forgiving of this than Ronda Rousey. News anchor. Do you know what the NBC Nightly News is, Connor? I know what NBC Nightly News is. is yes.

Who hosts that now? I don't even know if I could answer this. I have no clue. I generally don't watch too much cable news. Bad answer. That's good that you work here. Glad to have you a fox.

Brian Williams was the host of NBC Nightly News for a long time. He inherited the chair from Tom Brocahaw and passed it off. to Lester Holt, and apparently now it's Tom Llamas. Brian Williams was fired for making up stories about, I think, flying into a war zone, was that what it was, or flying through a war zone?

It was something like that that he got fired. Then he became a host on MSNBC. I don't know if he even still is. Does he host the 11th hour on MSNBC? Brian Williams? No. That's Brian Williams. Yeah.

All right. Should we go back all the way back? What else you got two days? 2005 will go back. So you were three years old when these people were popular. Do you know who Eva Longoria is? Eva Longoria? That's a made-up name.

That is a real name. That is a real person. No, no, I don't know who that is. I think there was a baseball third basement, right? That's a made-up name. Oh, come on, you can't keep giving me sports people. This isn't fair. What?

No? We didn't. We didn't. Well, we didn't. A little joke. Eve, do you, hold on, Connor, have you ever heard of Tony Parker? Tony Parker? No, I haven't. Too old friend.

Well, let's back into this. Tony Parker was one of the best players in the NBA, part of the San Antonio Spurs Dynasty, along with Tim Duncan. Tony Parker married Eva Longoria, but that's just a way to get a dude into it, back into it. We're quickly finding out you may not be a dude. Eva Longoria was a heartthrob. She was one of the most famous women in the world. I believe her biggest claim to fame is Desperate Housewives. Huge hit show on ABC.

And the bottom line is she was hot. That's Eva Longoria. Yep. That's Evil Angoria. All right. Let's see if you could get this one. Orlando Bloom. Oh, he's a football guy, right?

Football player. Do you think, by the way, guys, hold on. Let's do a side. is. Who do you think he's thinking of? If you, if someone said Orlando Bloom and someone said football player, I immediately know who I think he's thinking of. Oh, I don't think he's thinking of it. I've definitely heard the name Orlando Blue before. Do you have one? I don't. You don't, tinfoil. Do you, do you go? Orlando Pace. Offensive lineman. I don't know.

He's not thinking that in the NFL. There's no way he's thinking of that. No way. He doesn't know Orlando Blue of us. He doesn't know, if he doesn't know Tony Parker, there's no. There's no way he knows Orlando base Orlando Bloom you don't know him have you ever seen Lord of the Rings Pirates of the Caribbean Pirates of the Caribbean

No no who does he play Is he Aragorn No he plays Legolos Oh okay no I do know who that is then I just couldn't put a name to a face Yeah Pirates of the Caribbean Yeah

Is it a lot of people I am famously battered actors by the way I always get him wrong Okay well this is And sports and sports and sports and news and news all right last one for 05 all right this is going to

it's close to my heart because she was a crush of mine Anna Kornikova No I could not say who that is you don't know who Anna Kornikova is I haven't heard the name either man Great singer

Yeah Well I will say this Dan You like on a Kornikova like if somebody the premise here is that I could right now you are 20 years in the past so if I was 23 that would be a star from the 1970s

I'm kind of thinking you're going to ask me about like Janice Joplin right you are asking about I don't know what the corollary of Anna Kornicova is in 1978 She was one of the biggest pop culture icons See I've heard of Janice Joplin Yeah

Who is Janice Joplin She's a singer right I think so That's right. Yeah, wow. Okay. All right. Nice.

You must have cool parents. Anacornicova was a tennis player, Connor, and she wasn't so famous for her tennis. Let's just put it that way. She wasn't that famous for her tennis. I just wanted a reason to bring up Anacornicova again. All right, let's go back finally to 1995. How about that? Okay.

So this was eight years before Connor was born in 1995. All right. So I get a pass if I get these wrong. That's true. Do you know who cool you? No. No, hold on. Okay.

Hold on. To put a button on this long show today. What we're going to do to see if Connor gets a pass is you're going to quickly do this with your AI. You are going to take eight years before your birth two a days, tinfoils birth, and my birth. And this is the competition now. Okay, Connor? You only have to do one for us, Dan. But go ahead and give Connor his quiz of eight years before his birth.

By the way, I do know who cool. So Cooleo is the question. You know Cooleo is. Yeah, he's gangsters paradise, right? That's right. Wow. See, that's a surprise. Yeah. There we go. That's a big one. What does that say? What's that say about Culeo? By the way, name a second song by Culeo. Oh, no, I can't do that. I don't think I don't think I can. Y'all that theme song, right? No, neither can I. All right. So should we go more popular? Is that what we're doing? doing? Am I being too harsh on our young one? Yeah. Well, he got Coolio. All right, well, the next one I was going to go with

was Nancy Kerrigan. My daughter's just found out about that. I've heard the name, but once again, I don't know what she did. You've heard the name. It definitely sounds familiar. That's about what she did and more about what was done. to her. Here's one.

Do you know who Jerry Seinfeld is? Oh, yeah. Hold on. Tell him who Nancy Kerrigan. Oh, wait. Was he like the high school girl? He dated her? So Nancy Kerrigan was an Olympic skater who got attacked before the Olympic Games.

Oh. She was the one that got hit with the rod in her leg because her competitor thought she was too good. Oh. By Tanya Harding. Tanya Harding. Yikes. All right, last one for him, two of days, and then hit the three of us. This might be too hard, but Bob Do you know who Bob Dole is?

I've definitely heard that one. Bob Dole. I want to say he was like politics or something adjacent, but I've been, I've gotten more of these wrong than I expected, so I don't want to say anything with confidence. I think the only one you. got with Julio. You should only speak with confidence. Don't let this take you down. Wow. So we found out that news, sports, actors, and actresses, and politics are not your specialty. Bob Dole ran for president. He ran for president. He was a senator from Kansas. And he lost. Republican nominee. To Bill Clinton. 96. Yeah. All right. All right. Can you do it? Can you do eight years before each of our births?

So what was your birth again? We'll do me last. 75. Go ahead and do you two of days. He was 75. Well, I can't do myself. Well, you and me are born on. Do tinfoil.

All right, I got one for... What year were you born in tinfoil? 87. So 1979 for tinfoil. Got one. Do you know who Steve Garvey is? He is a baseball player. Yep.

I believe the Dodgers. No. Wrong. He's a politician from California running for office. Oh, right. And a politician. No, he's both. That's just all he is. That's what he is now. But yeah, Steve Garvey. That's right. Baseball. Do you know Farrah Fawcett is? She was an actress.

Is that for me? No, that was for him. Famous poster. Charlie's Angels. Yeah. All right. What's your year, Will? You're going to need to go to 1967. Okay, let's see

1967 You're going to get this one This is way too easy Do you know who Buddy Holly is It would be 1959 Yeah Okay That's way before my birth

That's not eight years before my birth But of course I know who Buddy Holly is That's eight years before your birth He was around 1959 Yours are too easy I wasn't born in 67 I was born in 75 I was telling you you'd go eight years before my birth

and go to 67. I'm doing this on the fly. I'm not, I'm not 58 today. This is hilarious. The last one we'll do. Will, do you know who Muhammad Ali is? Oh, that's a gimmie. Come on. Oh, you're upset now, Connor?

Do you know who Muhammad Ali is? Anna Kornakova is and then just give him Muhammad Ali. We'll Google it when you get home. Don't tell it on a more computer. Well, I do believe that it has proven my point. Relevance is short-lived. Attention spans are flighty. Young Connor couldn't pass the test, quite like the millennials and Gen Xers on this show.

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