Will Cain Country - Barstool Joins Fox Sports And Colbert's Show Is Canceled: What Does It Mean For The Future Of Media?

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

On the Friday sports edition of 'Will Cain Country,' Will and The Crew dive into the viral Coldplay “cheating scandal” and debate the morality of public shaming over private failings as the video that everyone is talking about continues to spread. They then break down the major Barstool–Fox Sports media deal and what it says about the industry’s shift back toward corporate platforms. Are "pirate ships" less appealing than initially believed? Also, what rules would you change in sports to make them more appealing or exciting? Will and The Crew suggest rule changes, like shifting soccer’s offside rules or reducing replay, to make sports more fun and fast-paced.  And finally, with the cancellation of 'The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,' is this the beginning of the death of traditional late-night comedy in an era of podcasts, social media, and ideological fatigue? Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Eastern time at FoxNews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page, but always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify, like our Friday edition of Kane on Sports. Big deal for Fox Sports, big deal for Barstool. We break it down with the fellas. Tinfoil Pat,, two of days Dan here hanging out as we make our way through some of the biggest stories in sports. Well, and today in culture. So I sort of want to start fellas with this story

that everyone is talking about. It is all over the internet and now it's all over news. And it is the story of the CEO of astronomer and the head of HR Being put on the jumbotron at a Coldplay concert in a loving embrace they are not married to one another and as they're up on the Jumbotron and realize that they are exposed to the audience, they quickly depart from each other. He ducks out of camera

shot, she turns around and covers her face. And who's the lead singer of Coldplay's Chris Martin? Yeah, says, Oh, they're really either really shy or they're having an affair Well as it turns out it's the latter They it appears it appears as though They got caught like they're having an affair. He's married and By the way, his wife pictures are her very very attractive If it's that way why you taking it kitchen, is the lady in the kitchen? Yeah. No, I think so.

It's an internet joke. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Everyone falls for it. I'm glad. Oh, all right. I actually really appreciate that. So here's, here's my thing. So today's you're going to play the video. I said, I don't appreciate that. So here's my thing.

So two days you're gonna play the video. I said, I don't wanna play the video, why? He said, well, we could use the clip for social media. Well, I don't wanna use the clip for social media. And here's my thing about this story. I find it gross because it's graduated from virality on the internet into now coverage on news. It's like being covered as though it's a story. And my thing is like

why is this a story? And I'm not even talking about like, oh, it's not that important, you know, and there's bigger things happen. No, no, no. I'm talking about like, this is a private affair that when I say affair, this is a private deal of people's lives being destroyed that everyone is now indulging in as though. It's a major story. You're already shaking your head two days. Why I? They made their affair public that's on them It's not private at that point There are real people involved I understand like But they made this his wife

his well his wife and his children didn't and now that is being drug into everyone's reality TV soap opera and it's like I mean I'm fascinated you're so callous about this like you're the mr. empathy you know closest to the left. But that's the thing. That's all fake. Anyway, I'm not saying you I'm saying all this. Sure. Hey, it I don't.

I get it. Actually, I get it. That's not the point. I get it. I get why everybody is so fascinated. I totally do. And I think there's so many different angles of why it's captured people's attention. I think that the people involved in the way they look, they're both fairly attractive individuals.

I think that's fascinating. I think their jobs, he's CEO, she's head of HR. That's fascinating. I think even the way they were holding each other, that is fascinating. And certainly the way that they reacted and the fact that went on the Jumbotron. I get it. I get why everybody is fascinated by it. But I think it shows the worst instincts of us and even me right now I'm like are you not talking about it by saying you don't want to talk about it

But at some point and I had a debate like am I gonna do this today? Am I do it on TV? Everybody's doing it and If I do it, it's because I think there's some value in saying I think this is really Forget them. It's like saying an affair is bad That's the layup. That's easy. Everybody goes into it with that and comes out of it with that But what does it say about us that we all are taking such schadenfreude in these people's destruction? And I I think there's something really gross. That's that's not really really gross because they made this They made the decision the immoral decision to do that. I mean, it's not our that's what it is today Schadenfreude is taking enjoyment and other and someone else's downfall someone else's destruction, right?

But their own self-destruction for their own self-destruction though, not just Things happening to them. I do agree I think it is overblown and is ridiculous But like I don't feel bad that they got caught and that it's on the internet like there's a difference between feeling bad for them and at some point looking yourself in the mirror and being like Why am I so into this and and why am I? Into it there's shows Remember that those shows where they follow people around getting caught cheating like people love this stuff Yeah, and I did watch that show a couple times I

Guess I don't know like these are different the people and cheaters sign up for this at least one of the two do by the way um, I Just you know, I was watching Believe it or not news coverage of this and I saw commentators say well one of the good things about this Is it it shows that on the internet, you know, there's still a belief that infidelity is bad and you know in this callous culture that we live in, at least there's some consensus in the interviral social media world that this is condemnable. And I totally disagree. That is not what's happening. If you believe everybody on the internet that

is enjoying this, but is are living some life of morality or perhaps even fidelity and that they have a position to do this from? You live in Never Never Land. That's insane. This isn't like the morally pure having found the morally impure and yelling shame. That's not what this is. This is people Gleefully watching the destruction of others lives and that's what this is and the internet is really really Experienced in doing this the internet is not really experienced We don't have to try to go that the internet is the enforcers of morality, please please This is people like really really gluttonously enjoying

granted all of the interesting period details of this and I just think at the other end there's real human beings and you can say well they put the Okay, forget these two Everybody else involved in the story, you know everyone else meeting next to them that knew wives Kids what the woman that worked with them those next to them that knew about it That was clearly with them and know about their affair. That's kind of repugnant as well Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess what are you gonna do if if that's hey, I'm not hanging out with No, but I do wonder I mean is that you do you have the like

Say tin foil the three of us were were out and you knew he was with this other woman Are you calling his wife? No, but I'm not like thing to be around him. I'm not hanging out. Oh, really? Yeah, hell no I was with I've had a friend who cheated and I told him I'm like look man as long as you keep doing that I'm not hanging out with you guys won't do it. They weren't even married What if he was your boss? I'll do that for you, buddy. No, okay Yeah, it's just I don't know it's it's it's an overblown thing, but it's just What what's happening is really like?

Probably it's a lot of people who want to be able to cheat but they can't and so it's like cutting in line It's like hey, you can't do that So if you're gonna get caught doing it, I want you to go down because if I can't do it You can't do it a little bit subconsciously. I think Yeah, I don't know and I know I know a lot of people are gonna disagree with me I think you're probably on the majority side of this two days because I mean like You have two things going for you in this and I don't care because this is the way I feel about it But you have two things going for you

You are on the position of infidelity is awful. Well, so am I, but I'm not talking about the infidelity. I'm talking about the way you react to other people's sins. You understand what I'm saying? Like, there are all kinds of sinners in this world, and there's all kinds of sins. And, you know, I'm not trying to get religious, but there's a ton of wisdom in Christianity. There's a ton of wisdom in this stuff. And like, the whole Jesus thing, like,

let he is without sin cast the first stone. Like, let's really think about that for a moment, because my suspicion is everybody casting stones right now, they've got a lot of logs in their own eye. You know what I mean? And I just, I think you can look at that and go, man that's a shame for that family. And that's a real, it's a real mark on everyone's character. And that's fair to say, a real mark on everyone's character involved. By the way, just one more caveat,

we don't know everything about this story. And I'm reminded that every time the internet takes a story and does this and you know For all Elon says about how great X is at breaking news I would actually and this isn't a lefty like oh misinformation thing. It's like one of the places It's absolutely the worst is in breaking news Yeah, you get stuff quicker, but you get so much wrong things like me not know like me not knowing that's not his wife Right the the kitchen picture

Like it's all over the place and it reminds me of the old miss story Remember the old miss story the sorority girl and everybody on the internet believed that she was You don't remember this today that she was cheating on her boyfriend with his dad That was the story. That was bad. And it ran everywhere. That was bad. And then what happened? It got picked up by some broadcasters who wanted to ride viral waves.

And now, it was all false, it was all fake, and she has defamation lawsuits going against a lot of these people. And there's something about this that just reminds me of that. Like, what do you, and even if it's not defamation, what do you know about either of these two people's lives? And the answer is ultimately nothing. And you can go well, it doesn't matter. They shouldn't be cheating. Maybe maybe you're right. And I'm not excusing. That's not the point. Like, is his wife? Is she cheat on him at a Lumineers concert last week? No, I don't know. Is he abusive?

Has he already left him? Do they have an open... We don't know any of this stuff. And the point isn't to excuse it. It's like have some humility in the judgment and stones that you cast, at least some humility, if not in your own fallibility and sense, but in your lack of complete knowledge. Like you just don't have that much.

And then there's just like foaming at the mouth, glee about this, that I'm just taking aback by how much everybody is run with it. Well, there's two things. One, I think it's a big factor that he is a CEO and you know how people on the internet feel about CEOs these days. Second of all, do you think if they didn't react that way, if they just like played along

with it, this wouldn't be a big story and would have gone viral? That is an interesting. You think if they just stayed in that embrace, if they just stayed there, no one would have known. No one would have posted it. Exactly. Exactly. Probably. Move on no one would have known banana costumes next and no one would have posted it exactly exactly Probably but do you think just put yourself in that situation for a moment you know resisted the urge to run hide Absolutely not I'm ducking as fast as I can

Right There've been these things on jumbotron Things I feel like I've seen another one of these things on the internet. But they're close. Not to this level. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, be careful with the Jumbo Tron. But I don't know, I was the school marm. I don't want to be a school marm. I don't mean everybody's having a lot of fun, you know, with this. And I just think it just turns me off. That's that's the truth. I can't explain it more. It turns me off how much fun that's the point how much fun everybody is having at the destruction of some people, even if like two days things

they deserve it. All right. We just talked about something without, while suggesting I didn't want to talk about it. So I'm a hypocrite. We'll be right back on Will Kane Country. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy Podcast.

I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at FoxNewsPodcast.com. Welcome back to Will Cain country. Meanwhile, big news announced this week in the world of sports Fox Sports has signed bar stool to a licensing agreement. Dave Portnoy, El Presidente will be appearing on big noon kickoff. I heard yesterday that when he's not available for a couple of Saturdays,

Big Cat perhaps will be joining the desk at Big Noon Kickoff. And then FS1, the cable channel of Fox Sports, will be licensing several shows. I'm not sure how many of bar stools throughout the day to fill out their hour. They canceled several shows this week. They still have coward going They still have what? First things first going I think you're muted tinfoil Did Dan mute you or you meet yourself I Think he just hates me. I don't know. Why do you mute him, Dan?

Because like when you're doing your thing, I don't know when you're going to bring us in yet, so I guess I could just bring us up. Because sometimes there's background noise with tin foil, so I got to ride the microphone a little bit. I think right now you're airing towards me watching his mouth move with no sound coming out more often than ambient noise in his house. So you have Colin Cowherd, 12 to 3, and you have Nick Wright, I think for two or three hours after that, or two hours after that. And first things first, everything else got canceled. two hours after that and first things first. Everything else got canceled. So that's like is the whole is the whole in the day basically morning until coward which starts it what time is coward start 12 o'clock eastern? Yeah. So basically the whole morning slate is what's open. I believe Barstool is going to cover eight to ten if what is what I recall hearing.

Oh just two hours. Just two hours. Yeah. And then what? What's 10 to noon? They don't know yet. It's still up in the air and then they still have a hole at five to six, I believe. Which is not a good hole to have because it's right up against part in the interruption, which is a ratings juggernaut so you know right in the world of sports yes ratings juggernaut in the world so I think I think so there's a lot of different things people are saying about this they say that this is Fox finding their McAfee with Dave Portnoy. I saw some of my Prude it's a while to say they're prudes because they fashion themselves on guide talk

Local sports radio guys going can't I just get my they were doing the can I just get my X's and O's thing, right? This is what we talked about. You want entertainment. You're not entertaining and therefore you act like entertainment is bad want entertainment, you're not entertaining, and therefore you act like entertainment is bad. Yes, X's and O's can be part of that, but get over yourself. You got where you are in your career mysteriously without being entertaining, and yet you can't get that everybody else wants some entertainment. Will Dave work and all that? You know, we'll see.

I've never seen Dave in this environment before, although they have a show like this at Barstool. They have a game day style, big noon style show at Barstool, which is going to continue. I heard Big Cat say the other day. But I think it's a super interesting play by FS Swan and Fox Sports. I think it will be a draw. I'll be interested to see how it plays out and watch. What I'm more interested in, I told Ten Fullest Mornings, I'm interested in it from I told Ten Fool's Morning, is I'm interested in it from the side of Barstool. And I'm curious to know why, you know, so the holy grail in

media for a long time, at least for the last couple years has been to be an independent, to be able to talk about what you want to talk about and make whatever you can make. And yet we've seen some of the biggest successes in that genre, the pirate ship genre, pull their pirate ships into the port of big corporate media. That's Pat McAfee going back to ESPN. And that is now this deal, which is a licensing deal between Barstool and Fox Sports. And I just think that's really interesting from an industry perspective. And it shows a couple of things in my mind. By the way, this is happening right now on the political side. People love to attack, quote unquote, corporate media. I work for corporate media, right? I'd like to think I'm pretty independent and can say what I want to say

in fashion content the way that I want to fashion. But everybody wants to attack corporate media. And then, isn't it interesting when the opportunities come? I'm not saying anything particular about Barstor and Bess. I'm just saying like, it's not dead. Everyone wants to proclaim it being dead. It's not dead. It has huge power. It has huge reach. It's a huge platform. And if it weren't, then why are they pulling their ship into that harbor? Pretty interesting. Or the money out there in independent media isn't as good as everybody has pretended it is, or it's not as good as it once was because it was largely funded by gambling, fan duel,

DraftKings sponsorships. And you take a guy, here's a great example, Dan Lebatard, right? He leaves ESPN, he signs a big deal with DraftKings. They talk about what a huge success it is, how much better they are to be independent. Interesting. I'll be curious to watch what happens when that DraftKings deal expires. Has it already expired? I don't know how long it was. Did it re-up? How are they doing? It's like, I don't hear much about them anymore. I don't know if you guys do. Like they kind of don't exist much about them anymore. I don't know if you guys do like they kind of don't exist in my world anymore

And there's other shows my friend Kay Adams did a show on fan duel I mean she she left good morning football and NFL Network. Yeah, that's another great Yeah That's that's a great example, but but on that I'm not going after your friend can't Kay Adams I don't know is that a success or is that not I know good morning football is a success, right? I do know that personal brand brand versus brand brand, I think. Well, you still have to have a, you have to have two things real quick, Tinfoil. You have to have an audience, which means you have a reach, right? Yeah. And you have to be able to,

this is a business, you got to be able to monetize that audience. And I think those two things are still great unknowns. Not that look, there are successes in independent media, for sure, and we could rattle them off. But I would just think it's interesting that Pat McAfee was an absolute success in digital media, and still chose to go back to the big corporate media when the option was presented to him. But those both. Yeah, yeah, but it's all under the ESPN umbrella umbrella. Oh, is it even the YouTube page? They license it.

Yes. Okay. Yeah. So I think it says something about the industry, not about these individuals. The point isn't the individuals. It's about the industry and this belief that corporate media is dying and independent is the future. It's true in part, but certainly not to the extent that people have played it up.

Go ahead, Tinfoil. I was just going to say that K is actually one of the names being floated around to fill in some of the other FS1 openings. So for what that's worth. Yeah. I hadn't seen that. I don't know. I think it's really, and by the way,

big noon kickoffs are great, huge success. And so is game day. And Mac, if he does more for ESPN than just his shows, he was the MC of the All-Star game. He's a- WWE. College game day. He's WWE. Yeah, right. I mean, he's a massive success.

But I don't know. I just think it's really interesting that the death of corporate media has been predicted, at least television, for way too long. And I'm not saying it'll never happen, but it sure isn't happening on the schedule everybody thought it was going to happen. Right? How about that? We'll be right back on Will Cain Country. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We asked people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do.

Take the quiz every day at the quiz.Fox. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz.fox then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Welcome back to Will Kane country. All right, three things in sports that you want to change. Each of us have a nomination today for something

we'd love to change in sports. Mine will be the least popular, because nobody cares. But go ahead, Tinfoil, what's the one thing you would like to change about sports? So this is coming off of the swing off in the All-Star game. We thought that was a pretty big deal. Everyone loved it. So what would you change in sports?

Thinking about most sports, I'd probably revert back some other rules, some of the rule changes, which I don't think is actually a good thing. So if I was choosing something new, it would be to change soccer offsides to be more like hockey offsides. So it's interesting you bring this one up like you don't like soccer though. Soccer's fine I mean but I but he wants to change it. Yeah I feel like I feel

like hockey is like a better version of soccer. Make it more like what we like. So if you know if it was more like, I think I would enjoy it more. And one of the things I cannot understand is offsides, like in soccer. I can't follow along with it as easily because I have to, I don't, you have to be able to see the ball leave the guy's foot and then you also have to see the other side of the field

at the same time. It's really tough. Whereas in hockey, it's like, if you have a line, you know, you know, right. But that's the challenge. I mean, I'm going to give you it's tough. And as a guy who is like immersed in soccer constantly because of youth soccer. Yeah, you get used to sort of like seeing two things at the same time, at least as a fan.

I didn't play like my boys. So I would be curious when one of my sons is a striker, right? so he is the guy literally on the end pushing the defense, but he can't go too far too fast or he's offside and You're looking backwards. You're constantly looking backwards and you're also anticipating is that pass going to be a forward pass? Is that going to be a through ball or an aerial that I can run on to? going to be a forward pass? Is that going to be a through ball or an aerial that I can run on to? Because you'll see them make runs Patrick all the time and the pass doesn't come and then they have to backtrack and get back on sides, right? That's constantly happening for those guys, the forwards. But as a fan, like my wife surely doesn't get it. She doesn't

know like it's funny to some sidelines with a lot. I mean, to be honest with a lot of the moms, not not knowing offsides, you know, but the whole thing is designed to stop cherry-picking So you have to be back there With the first line of the defense ridiculous when the ball releases off of the off of the Your teammates pass his foot because it goes off his foot your teammates pass his foot, because it goes off his foot. And it's hard because in your brain you'd be like, because of hockey, once the ball goes then you go,

like once the ball passes, that's not it. You can go immediately when the ball basically, it doesn't have to be in the air, right? It just begins its forward motion, then you can begin yours. And it is confusing, I will give you that I Don't know what a line would do to it like a clear line. You just sit on that line. I guess yeah I just think there we I mean there were a lot more goals, but to Patrick's point I

Feel like it, but see hockey is you can't go into the line until the puck crosses So it would be similar. You can't go into the line until the puck crosses so it would be similar. You can't go until the ball crosses that line so This way actually gives the offensive player a bit more of a head start if he can anticipate when that pass goes forward Changes the whole game though. I mean it would change everything Yeah All right. I was speaking of sports that people okay. Here's what I would do It's gonna address the sport that I played water polo. Oh

Cool, so we're gonna end the show. I would Institute I would Institute hockey Line changes shifts in water polo. It's exhausting I'm not just saying this from a player's perspective But like the transitions and guys swimming back and forth slows the game down and you want to speed the game up I feel like and I think shift changes would be really interesting explain it though it would just be well is a lot like it's like hockey or basketball yeah explain like what the what it's like because I don't really know what water polo how it works well it's like hockey or basketball and and the number of guys on the field are

smaller right and then you have a transition and the transition it's a long pool I can't remember how long but it takes a while to get fully into transition to make to swim from one end to the other and there there are transition goals in water polo, but I feel like there's a lag time, a period in there where the game slows down, that you could speed it up, increase scoring. Now the problem is, you do a line change,

and you guys jump in sort of like off the bench, which would be about a third of the way down the pool, with fresh, they'd feel fast they've been rested is that a total disadvantage for the defenders and it and it probably is you know in hockey by the way there you have to how strict are they about coming on versus going off you know I mean I know that they can penalize you for too many men on the ice but it feels like they're pretty loose on like Not every guy has to going off off the ice before guys are on you know what I mean Yes, you're out of the play. It's you know like within five feet of the bench. Yeah, usually look the other way

I mean that was you know that was one of the complaints about by the Kings back in the 93 Stanley Cup finals Because they were doing the same thing and actually got called for it But yeah in general on their line changes. Yeah, they think I called for too many men and the Canadians scored and won the series but You know normally they look the other way Yeah We have to be out of the play basketball basketball is too fast like you brought that up today's it's too fast Wait, there's no need no need and and you it would just be weird but the length of the ice it's it's shorter than a pool is in water polo and they cover it so much

faster but it's actually shocking in hockey that and it does happen that line changes produce goals and odd man rushes and that kind of thing but you would think it would happen more. Well, it depends on- For as often they're having line changes. It depends on what the sport is, like getting into position, how important being in a quick position is.

I mean, like basketball, you can lose on a fast break if you're going in and out so easily every time. Yeah. So it just depends on position of play well a water polo score is something like seven eight it could be up to 12 13 goals like you're in that range seven to 13 goals is a not not for both teams combined for one team right so you have you have that you have offense that resembles not NBA fast break but but half-court offense a lot you know I

mean like trying to break down the defense after you're already set up. And I just think it would speed up the game, make it way more entertaining. I think water polo actually can be an entertaining sport, but it's slow. Not to pick on soccer too much, but I kind of like this idea for soccer as well.

Like more changes. No. I love it. I love, I mean like they're running around all the time. It's an endurance game. Quick change, I hate that. Well, I love it. I love I mean like they're running around all the time endurance game But I hate that what? I'll tell you guys this When you guys come to Dallas? Two days has been a couple times you got to come tinfoil. Yeah, we do it

Maybe it'll be a time when my youngest son is playing futsal and I'll take you to futsal games and tell me if you don't Find this and I don't want you to watch it on the internet because on the internet Well when you watch it you're the highest level pros of it I almost feel like it it slows down compared to kids playing it Because it's perfected and now you're talking about like a lot of half court style stuff It's perfected. And now you're talking about like a lot of half court style stuff. But foots all, as you know, five on five, soccer, hard court, heavier ball, moves faster but doesn't travel through the air as easily.

Everything is like on super speed. And everybody touches the ball more. And it's just really fast paced and fun. And you can't shift change, but you make quick subs, you know, in and out a fair amount. I just think it's way more action. I think you would really, really enjoy watching, especially youth futsal. But you can still look it up if you want, two days on the internet. I see you doing that right now.

I'm going to Dallas FC. What's your change? Mine's a little dinosaur, and I'm going to sound very old old but I'm going backwards. I want to get Get rid of some of the replay we have I think it slows down the game in all sports I mean baseball God and football just slows down games. I think there's way too much, you know off the field Eyes on things and and decisions made off the field I think everything should be made on the field a lot more. And I just think it makes the game more organic

and back to what it was. And I just, I would change that for sure. So here's my opinion on this. Replay and speed of game is like music. There's no right or wrong. You have to thread the needle to the rhythm of what works. And what I'm getting at is I do think the NFL has just about perfected it. I don't think the amount of replay has ruined NFL games. Now, I hate pass interference.

I hate it. So when they brought in a couple of years ago instant replay for pass interference I was kind of excited about it let's make this objective but like music all of a sudden now there was too much replay when that came in and I will admit that disrupted the game even if I wanted to perfect in pass interference it didn't fit with the flow of the game and I think the NFL has perfect perfected flow of the game I really do this P. I love college yeah, and holding and I think

College football which I I like just as much as NFL. I think one of their problems is the rhythm of the game It's too slow like they've got to find a way to speed up college football games. They can't be four hours four and a half hours you can't do that and and You know, I don't know Baseball, I also appreciate human error to your point. Like I think humans are Part of sports including on the referee. Yes, And I don't know about automating like... Balls and strikes, no way. But everyone's like, don't you want the correct answer?

Right. There's an element of me that's like that, especially when your team is on the receiving end of a bad call, then you want it to be perfected. But I think you would lose something. I really do. They have done robotic... Tried. Pitch boxes, strike zones, already, right? Somewhere... Minor leagues does it a lot. Minor leagues...

Have you ever watched a game like that? I'm curious what it feels like watching the game. I never have. There's not much difference. I saw a minor league game this year and it wasn't much different. I mean, like the pacing wise. That can be wrong too. I mean what's to say there's machine error sometimes. Say it's the World Series and they're fully implemented this, there could be error there. You know what I'm saying? I mean I just think the human element of the game is what makes it.

Plus you just change the history of the game. You change stats. You change what you compare older players to newer players if they're using all these different things. I think it just changes comparison. But we're already doing that in baseball. I mean, football, baseball, you can't do that anymore. You just can't compare old stats to new stats anymore.

At all. What, Babe Ruth is not a quarterback stat? We all agree, we know quarterback stat comparison is stupid, right? Like this, it's just not even, you're really gonna tell me Kurt Cousins, you know, was better than Troy Aikman or however you want to do it, you know, Terry Bradshaw versus name your, I mean, Terry Bradshaw's stats would put him like what, bottom five in the NFL now, like completion percentage, touchdown interception ratio. I really like two days. And baseball is the same way.

Yeah. I think like there's something like really exciting about like, you know, being a fan and like watching like pictures trying to figure out the strike zone. And it's like, Oh, it's three inches off, you know, outside you get the call. But yeah, each side you don't get to call it. Yeah, exactly. Each umpire is a little bit different. And so it's like, it's kind of like a strategy game that you're playing on top of it. Yeah. All right. This guy's going to call inside balls or inside strikes outside. But you know, it's like, all right, I got to fit within

that as long as it's consistent. You're the guy Tim Full you're the guy that is always being jobbed by the humans you know in college football and everything. I would think you would welcome your mechanical overlords to finally get it all right so you can stop being on the receiving end of all these conspiracies. Chat GPT refs. I was telling my brother this this was a problem because I mean the Braves got screwed in 97 for the same thing you know know We go outside foot off the plate. I get it. You know, I get it. I want but like I love human error I just love the no you don't yes. I do I do love if as long as it's fair across both sides I don't as long as everyone's getting job. You're okay with it. Yes. Yeah

Right now it's just you that's getting Yes, yes. Okay. But just right now, it's just you that's getting jobs. Just you know, you're getting, you're unfairly getting more jobs than everybody else. You like everybody getting jobs. I'll go back through our text and I'll show you how only I'm getting jobs if you want. I'm keeping a running tally. Don't worry about it.

I'd love for you to. Yeah. And the 96 Braves, that's a new one for me. That's a new one. We got all the Florida State entries 97. This is not this is not something that's like that out there 97 Braves against the Marlins The strike zone was crazy. It was crazy. Like you got all your members. Yeah, everyone talks about it. Yeah I don't think so. I don't know. We'll be right back on Will Kane Country.

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Stephen Colbert was such a partisan hack and unfunny that he killed the whole franchise. No, it's... Colbert really wasn't funny. Let's just get that out of the way. I mean, and he was openly partisan. Like last night, by the way, when he announced that it was his last show, you know, his, everybody's pointed out who his prime guest was, was Adam Schiff, Senator from California. I guess the days of Brad Pitt promoting FFF1, you know now we're here with Adam Schiff Night after night of Trump derangement syndrome on on the late show. So I've got no crocodile tears for for Stephen Colbert But it's pretty interesting that there's gonna be no more late show and you know what Donald Trump posted He's and who knows if Trump is right. he's like, I hear Kimmel's next.

And then he said something about Jimmy Fallon as well. And that brings to your point, Tim Poyle, you think the franchise model, that model of late night comedy, it's over. I will say Guffeld is doing great. So it's cable versus broadcast and so forth. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, the people not want comedy anymore after their local news. I think it's crazy that, you know, the size of like Gutfeld staff, I mean, that seems huge to me, you know, with our staff, but like, you know, Gutfeld staff compared to

a late night show staff like that is like, I mean he's doing it with like a third of the staff. I mean like, I think you know, types. Not even that. Not even that, yeah. I mean it's an economics issue to me. Like it just does not make sense. It's like SNL too. I mean the reason why these shows aren't doing well,

I mean there's funnier things on the internet every day when you're scrolling through Instagram. So you can't be as funny as the internet is right now. So it's impossible to write sketches and be funny Like that when you could just go on your phone and laugh harder Yeah, okay, so what you're getting at then is the plethora of options for entertainment Versus when Letterman and Carson and Leno did this It doesn't even occur to me that those shows are on like it doesn't even occur to me

No, it doesn't and by the way neither does like Network TV. I don't watch I don't even know what's on anymore. Like what are the sitcoms? I think it feels like it's all CSI's and and I don't even know I don't know the sitcoms anymore Big Bang Theory was a day long Is it I don't know it's it's it's indication I don't think it's on you know new anymore but there was a time when all that mattered big-time you know Thursday nights on NBC and whatever I can't even remember what ABC might have had Friday nights who knows I don't don't know. But that mattered. And that feeling at the

end of the night, that the nation was gathered around some unifying moment, where you got to see celebrities interviewed, and sort of touch on the biggest cultural issues of the day, that's long gone. For so many reasons, to point comedy everywhere celebrity interviews now everywhere on podcasts Options I'm gonna watch squid games not Stephen Colbert and don't Don't discount the way that it no longer was unifying like they went all one way Politically and it became their main thing and it was with Donald Trump. I remember this y'all remember Late night comedy wasn't really political. That's not to say they wouldn't do political jokes, but they

Was it's their bread and and it wasn't their bread and butter. Yeah, like it wasn't the thing and then it started in 2015 with Donald Trump and thing and then it started in 2015 with Donald Trump and Big time I remember this because Fallon was the holdout Do you remember before that Fallon was was doing really well in the ratings by essentially putting on a variety show? Yeah, he would do it was good It was good. Yeah, I did pranks and bits and things like that. I was like, this is the future This is the future. Yeah lip-syncing all that and then 15 comes along Donald Trump and everybody gets obsessed with Trump and The other ratings went up Colbert went up Kimmel went up Fallon went down

So then Fallon had to join it and they all went full TDS Trump derangement syndrome He he was the full show the whole driving ethos of the show and then as time went on they became openly not just like Donald Trump's a big character. Let's talk about him or make fun of him. Openly partisan and political to the point of Stephen Colbert doing that vaccine thing. Like, that's one of the most unfunny things, grossest things you've ever seen on TV, that the vaccine dance. And so I think the combination of all those things meant there's just no place for it anymore

But like you talked about what we're gonna put on FS one. What are they gonna put in its place? What's gonna go on it ABC NBC CBS? law and order SVU from 1998 yeah Yeah, probably It actually makes the most sense I mean a lot of people really want syndication like people love old shows Because they relate to those shows and like no one wants to TV I mean, yeah, everyone's watching streaming and what changed that you're saying like Thursday nights this show

What changed that a little bit at first was HBO Sunday nights that changed everything. Yes, you know I'm saying Yes, so that's what would start to be the downfall then it, then it's watching that, and then it's watching it on streaming, and then you're not watching regular cable anymore. There's better options elsewhere. What do you watch? I watch news. Apple TV shows are love. No, I'm saying for TV.

I don't have it. Yeah, I watch Netflix, Apple TV, Paramount, Prime. I don't have Hulu. But when I'm talking, when I go, I have YouTube TV for my cable, right? And there was a day when there was like 15 things that you could say you watched on TV. I'm down to two. Yeah, I'm down to two's 11. And live sports is the other. Yeah, live sports is really the only thing. The only problem is, though, like, I love the Yankees. I can't watch the Yankees.

I'm 11 miles from Yankee Stadium, where I live. And I can't watch the Yankees unless I get the MSG app, which is also the Yes app, which is like so much money. It's insane to be able to watch my own team same with the Rangers or the Knicks You know it's all these crazy things it needs to consolidate at some point right? I mean it has to YouTube TV thing so yes network Yes network or MSG or not on your cable provider. You know I don't have a cable. I don't have a cable provider So I don't have YouTube TV. I do have YouTube TV, but not a sports package And they don't have yes because they don't have a cable provider. So I don't have YouTube TV. I do have YouTube TV, but not a sports package.

And they don't have Yes, because they don't have a deal with Yes. So I don't have traditional cable. I thought we were going there where things were more consolidated to where you only needed Netflix, or you had Hulu, or you had one of these streamers, you'd be fine. But then everyone went into streaming game. And then it's like, well, now you

can't find where your favorite shows are. And it's like, oh, you want to go watch a movie. You want to go watch Jurassic Park. And it's like, it's on the one you don't have. But going back to Colbert, I used to love the celebrity interviews. But you're right, I could see them on any podcast during any movie campaign they're doing.

Like, five different ones. Totally. You watch Brad Pitt on Dax Shepard. Yeah. Right. Before we go, it's probably not the end of the road for Colbert. Have you thought about this? Like, what do you think the likelihood is?

This will be fascinating. Could he be signed by CNN to try to do what Gutfeld has done? Or be more serious? CNN's in a, I think they'd say go do your show. Interesting. Do a comedy show. But I'm going to offer, so first of all, CNN's in cost cutting mode. Like look at what they're doing with their talent, right? It's not high price talent.

It's not very talented because their business model doesn't work. They don't get ratings. And second, like they'd have to pay Colbert. I don't know what he was making at CBS, but I'd put the over under it, probably 15 million a year. And that's not going to be something that they could afford. And third, I'll bet you he wouldn't rate. You put him on CNN, it's not like you're, what was Colbert getting on CBS? Probably a million and a half people,

maybe 2 million people? He's getting like a 2.2 rating. So I don't know what that translates into. It's not like he goes to CNN and they get those numbers. No. Like he would actually probably get like three or 400,000. You know, maybe a little more, maybe five to 800,000. I mean, I'm not sure it would be a big boost over what they

already have. Yeah, say what you will about Colbert. I do think that he's still 15 million estimated a year. Oh, hit it. Hit it on the nose. Yeah. I think Colbert is still extremely talented. If you go back, like he was very funny at one point. I don't know what happened between 2015, 2016, and now.

I think besides TDS, but like, I mean, I could see him going to like a kind of doing what Conan O'Brien's doing and go, you know, because it might make the most sense to like go do a podcast. Well, people only watch his clips. They don't watch his full show, right? You know like they watch a little thing CNN CNN's not you know Some of these places don't have the money to pay these kind of guys You know what they're worth for what they would would have in the open market You know back in the day. You're probably right probably is like a podcast

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