Will Cain Country - Behind The Scenes Interviewing Former President Donald Trump

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

Story #1: Does smoking crack every 15 minutes qualify you as an addict? This may be more controversial than you think. The trial of Hunter Biden. Story #2: Reaction and analysis to Will's exclusive interview with former President Donald Trump. Did Will fail to fact check him. Story #3: A hard basketball play or racial resentment? The saga of Caitlin Clark.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail]   Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show!   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, the smoke and crack every 15 minutes qualify as an addict, the trial of Hunter Biden. Two, reaction to our exclusive interview with President Donald Trump. Did I fail? Did I fail to fact-check Trump? Three, a hard basketball play, or victim of racial resentment, the saga of Caitlin Clark. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live, Fox News.com. On the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always on demand wherever you get your audio entertainment. Just subscribe at Apple or on Spotify.

Make sure you hit subscribe on YouTube or follow us over on Facebook to the Will Kane Show. So you can keep up with all the latest and the greatest, our exclusive interviews, my hot takes, our lunch break panels. I missed you. It's so good to be back. So good to be back live. I was gone for a week, took a vacation with the family in France, and I used vacation in quotation marks. My buddy Pete He said just got a new horse. He's now a cowboy in Tennessee.

He got a new horse named Maverick. Apparently, maybe, in honor of my Dallas Mavericks taking down. his Minnesota Timberwolves. More on that later this week as the Mavericks head to the NBA finals to take on the Boston Celtics. He needs to learn a few things about horses. His horse is not brown. It's chestnut. And he needs to learn the phrase road hard and put away wet. That's how I feel like I've been road hard and put away wet. Not only have I been staying up late for the Dallas Mavericks, but also the sad departure of the Dallas Stars in the Stanley Cup playoff. But I have been running at 100 mile an hour. Pistons all firing, never letting the engine cool down,

four or five hours night, sleep between work and what was not a relaxing vacation in France. More on that, just a moment here on the Wilcan show. But I missed you while I was gone. I missed you two days. I missed you young establishment, James. It's good to be back. How are you, boys? What up? What's up, man? We missed you, too. I mean, we had great fill-in host, but, you know. I only missed you. We did. We did. Bobby Burrack, Sean Duffy,

Cat Tymph, and Tyrus. How about a round of applause for the fill-ins? Big numbers. They did great on Facebook. And, you know, I don't like to brag about ratings or numbers, but it's actually kind of point to part of our discussion. We're going to have a reaction to our Big interview with Donald Trump.

We're going to have some of your reaction, some of the criticism of me and my performance in that interview with Donald Trump. But the fill-ins, Duffy, Tyrus, Burrack, big numbers last week on Facebook, so big, in fact, that they are much, much more popular, apparently, than former President Donald Trump. Much more popular. Tyrus. Duncan on President Trump. Tyrus did something like 200,000 last week on Facebook, and President Trump, our exclusive interview, 48 hours after his conviction in New York, only did 50,000 on Facebook. It's such a blowout one would wonder, huh, what's happening on Facebook? How is that possible? By the way, our interview now well above 600,000 on YouTube, off and running.

But weirdly, for all of you watching on Facebook, apparently you weren't that interested in an exclusive interview 48 hours after his conviction. New York and hearing from President Donald Trump. It would make you think maybe that Facebook was manipulating the number of people capable of hearing from the leading candidate for president of the United States of America. Now, I don't know if you would call that election interference. I don't know if you would call that censorship, but I think we can all agree, I would call that odd. Now, if there were any claims made in that interview that were, quote, unquote, misinformation,

I would love to hear them point it out. I would love to hear exactly what was inaccurate, what was unfactual. I would think this would be of high priority and interest to the citizens of the United States of America. They have to make a crucial decision about who should lead this great country in some four, five, six odd months. But weird, I guess there's no appetite in the public, or at least on Facebook, very popular on television on YouTube, but on Facebook in hearing from the former president, in hearing from Donald Trump. But again, boys, two a days, young South. applause. Just an excellent job by Tyrus and Duffy and Barack. I mean it. I think they did an awesome job, and I so appreciate them all stepping in. While I took a quote-unquote vacation in France.

What's up? No, I said, thank you to them. They made our jobs a lot easier, too. It was great, and they were great to come in and do the job. Let me make your day a little bit brighter. So later this week, a day before the 80th anniversary of D-Day. I want to break down my trip to Normandy. It is one of the most inspirational experiences of my life. It was shared with my two sons and my wife, and I have been consumed, obsessed, in fact, with World War II. I just binge-watched, re-watched, Band of Brothers, which is up on Netflix,

and I've been reading more and more about Operation Overlord and all the events of, for example, Easy Company. And so tomorrow here on the Will Cane Show, I want to share with you my experiences from Pointe de Hoc, from Omaha Beach, from the American Cemetery in Normandy. But I also went to Paris, boys, and I'm going to be honest with you. Not my favorite. Now, here's the thing I've learned about myself.

I don't like big cities. I don't mean that as, I'm just a country boy. No, I spent 15 years living in New York, 15 years living in New York City, and I think my gas tank is empty on big cities. I get the charm. I loved visiting Rome because of the history. Barcelona was okay. My family and I try to do a trip every year, an exploratory trip. And we learn. We do history. And Paris is full of history. By the way, Summer Olympics 2024, it's going to be incredible in Paris. They have all these stadiums buried into the streets and

onto the parks. You're going to be sitting next to the Louvre as your background while you're watching BMX and skateboarding in a 2,000-person seat stadium. It is very big. beautiful i mean crew down the sin river it's it's amazing the way they're setting up for the olympics and paris has its charm my favorite moments on any family vacation is the small moments it's not hey mona the museum d'orsay it's having a coffee in the morning with one of my sons at a little cafe and breaking down life and of course in our experience soccer because that's we're a big family when it comes to soccer um it's having a beer with my wife one night at a little place that we find. And Paris is awesome with its little alleys and cobblestone streets and history

and charm in that way. But we stayed in an Airbnb because God love my wife and I love her. She is budget conscious and I love that about her. We stayed in an Airbnb above an Indian restaurant, which meant we all smelled like curry. Wow. Soaked in curry. Wow. And it rained a good portion of the trip and cities are not good for rain. Anyone who's ever lived in New York could tell you the worst weather isn't snow it's not ice it's rain because you got to find some place to be inside and that's not what you're doing when you're on vacation but getting out of the rain one day we went into this cafeteria in a department store you know a little you know what i mean when they have some kind of nice cafeterias inside of a department store i was kind of excited i got there and i'm like

all right oh look they have some fish and chips i'm just going to have some normal food but i am a bit of an adventurous eater, okay? I don't have, I'm not queasy. I like, especially, you know, anything in the meat film. Oh, what is it? I've never had rattlesnake. I'll have rattlesnake. Well, I go to this buffet, I go this cafeteria, and they have these sausages.

And I'm, I like a sausage. I think sausage is one of the three staples of barbecue in Texas, you know. It's brisket, it's ribs, it's sausage. Good jalapinia sausage, German influence in Texas. Yes, sir. give me the sausage well they got these big sausages and they're kind of frying them up on this um griddle that's looking good because you know i like hearing a crack and a sizz and a little bit of a burnt in i'm like this is looking kind of good what is this sausage i was like yeah give me one

of those so i put it on my plate and i'm kind of in a big area you know i'm not intimate with my food yet meaning i'm not close my face isn't near it and i put on my plate and i and i had a pay and i head to the table. My boys joined me. My wife is still shopping through the cafeteria. And I'm going to show you, two a days, I'm going to show you young establishment what I picked to put on my plate. We have a picture we're putting up on YouTube and on Facebook on Fox News.com. You can see the sausage that I selected. If you're listening on Spotify or an apple, or if you're listening on terrestrial radio, because by the way, the Will Cain Show now syndicated across the country on terrestrial radio. Welcome. We love you. So glad to be

across the country. What you can see in this picture, I would say, good inch inch and a half in diameter sausage bursting at the seams like the casing is broken a little bit so i'm like that's a lot of meat inside that sausage that's going to be good right but i'm going to ask you guys what do you think that is when you look at that sausage what do you think that is two a days um i have to say that looks is that like a blood sausage or no well i'm not familiar with blood sausage but young establishment i i mean let's be real for a minute with everyone listening, watching. It looks like horse penis. If you're being

honest, that's what that looks. That's something you're going to... Am I wrong? You got to eat that with a fork and knife. You definitely do. Yes. And you wonder, hey, what appendage am I diving into? Well, it's not horse penis. So I go and I sit down at my table.

You guys stay here with me on camera. Stay part of this conversation. So I sit down and something is off. Something's off. It doesn't smell. good but not yet does it smell overwhelming so I cut it fork and knife to your point young establishment I cut it on the end and when I cut into it I'm like I was pretty pink um like is that undercooked and I thought I don't know this could be bad and it didn't smell great and the

smell is getting stronger so then I cut down the middle of it and then in the middle it's still pink and I'm like okay well maybe but it's the same shade of pink it's not pinker right where in the middle you'd think, okay, that's where it's the most undercooked. And I'm thinking, well, okay, this is maybe what it's just supposed to look like. And I glanced at it before I put the bite in my mouth, and I noticed, like, you know, concentric circles, rings, you know. And I'm like, that's smooth muscle, but I put it in my mouth. And immediately the smell is overwhelming. And the bite is horrific.

Again, I'm not a spit it out and send it back guy. So I'm muscled through that bite. But by the time it's down my throat, I'm like, this is horrific. One of the worst things I've ever eaten. And it literally smells like human excrement. And I'm like, what did I, what is this? And so I shoved it away. I got up, and I'm really fighting my stomach at this point.

And I go back into the cafeteria and I see the sign. And, okay, and it says, and duet sausage. And I'm like, okay, well, you know, I grew up in Texas. You know, some cultural crossover with Louisiana. I've heard of Van Dewey sausage, you know. And I'm like, did I just eat tripe? I'm like, well, you know, I've had Minuto before, didn't love it. And I've probably experienced tripe at some point.

So I'm not into it. I don't want it, but I don't expect it to be this horrific. Now, I'm not back to the table before my wife and kids are bickering about who, get rid of this. It smells, it's smelling up the entire area. And I'm like, I'm like, um, baby. okay i'll get rid of it and i took it over to the place you deposit your cafeteria tray and then i swear to you i got what i replaced it with was um you know fish and chips and i used the same fork and i'm like i can't use the same fork it's awful man it's all over the fork the smell so i

go get new silverware the plate they're all like this smell is lingering will what is this this is terrible they're kind of retching over their food so i googled i'm sitting on my phone i'm like what did i just put in myself and i googled and dilett sausage i'm going to read you guys the Wikipedia entry, okay? Andulet sausage is a French coarse-grained sausage made from the intestine of pork. And duets are generally made from the large intestine and are two and a half to four inches in diameter. A true Andolette is rarely seen outside of France and has a strong distinctive odor coming

from the colon, although sometimes repellent to the uninitiated, the scent is prized by devotees. Why? Why are you doing this? In short, fellas. In short, I ate butthole in France. Clip it. And that's the truth. And you don't know. Now that we're on terrestrial radio, I don't know what you have to beep. But that's authentic. That's the real. I ate colon. And it sent me back an entire day. Horrific warning, public service announcement, all Americans. to not get Andulet sausage in France. Someone, someone, we have, we have some comments in the chat. Baby Z, 627 says, he sounds like a moron.

If something doesn't have a good smell, you don't even attempt to eat it. So, I mean, that's just some input right there. Well, baby Z, guilty is charged. Moron. Multiple warning signs. It was only one bite that I took in. but multiple warning signs that red flags all over the field and I kept I kept marching the ball towards the end zone

thinking I'm tough I can do this and do let well they you guys eat some weird stuff in Texas too right isn't that aren't there things like you know cow tongue and you know things like that so it shouldn't be that weird for you I mean maybe back in the day of like you know giant James Dean I mean they I remember he married some girl from the East Coast, the next thing, you know, she was eating brains. But like in modern day, Texas, I don't, I don't know if I've ever had brains. I've never had tongue. And that's the thing I would. If somebody said, hey, what's that? That's brains. I would eat, I would do,

I would eat brains. I would, I would do tongue. But I'm not eating colon. That's, that's off the menu for me. I don't understand the delicacy. I don't understand the appeal. So stay away from Andalette sausage. Hey, today, we have some very fascinating. We, we always like to be real. We like to be self-reflective, and there's a lot of criticism. And I'm going to be honest with you, and I don't think it's deserved. And in fact, I think it's misplaced. If I'm being real, I think it's idiotic regarding our interview with former president Donald Trump. And I'm going to explain to you exactly why the accusations. Will did not fact-check Trump. Why? You're missing the forest for the trees. But first, story number one.

Does smoking crack every 15 minutes qualify as an addict? Hunter Biden, in trial today over federal gun charges, if you'll remember, one of the many charges now facing Hunter Biden, which include tax evasion to the tune of millions, um, spousal support payments unpaid to the tune of millions, and a federal gun charge, wherein Hunter Biden filled out a federal form, for a Colt Revolver, and on that federal form was required to say whether or not he was a drug addict. He checked the box no.

Not long after, in a spat with his brother's former wife, now his at that time lover, she takes the gun, throws it away in a dumpster. It is collected by the Secret Service, but in this process, it's revealed that Hunter Biden is in possession of. of a gun where he illegally filled out a federal firearms form. He faces potentially up to 25 years in prison. We all know it'll never be 25 years. But he didn't get the sweetheart plea deal that just a few months ago was agreed to when a judge said that's not appropriate for this charge. So they have impaneled a jury.

One juror has already been dismissed. All the jurors in Vodier were asked whether or not they had experience with addicts. And as you would expect in America, every single potential juror. did, whether or not personally or with a family member, have experience with addiction. It'll be fascinating to see how that plays in a jury. You know, my wife once sat on a jury in Texas over a crystal meth production charge. Guy was making crystal meth in the basement of his grandmother's house. Anyone knows anything about crystal meth?

I mean, it's incredibly dangerous. And I think what ended up happening is that the lab exploded. You know, crystal meth smells apparently like cat piss and is highly... explosive. She said what was interesting is when they went into the jury room to deliberate, almost everybody in the jury room, small town Texas, had some experience with meth. They had some experience with someone in their family who had been addicted or somebody in their family who had been involved in production. And those that had personal experience were not empathetic. They were not forgiving. They were like, throw the book at him. I know these

kinds of people, they're sorry. And so the fact that everyone has at least some experience with addiction will be fascinating to see whether or not that inspires, you know, empathy and connection to Hunter Biden, or it inspires a lack of forgiveness and understanding, which I think is pretty accurate to say, he's sorry. So he's facing now, opening arguments have begun. in the case. And the list of potential witnesses for the prosecution, special prosecutor David Weiss, include Kathleen Buell, that's Hunter's ex-wife, Zoe Keston, his ex-girlfriend. The defense plans, by the way, to call James Biden to the stand, which will be fascinating. And reports are Jill Biden is sitting in trial every day, which one could argue that's pretty

interesting in and of itself. I mean, Hunter's not Jill Biden's biological child. She didn't really help raise him. I guess you could argue she helped raise him because, although technically an adult, he's still a child. Or is it a display of power, a muscle flex that the first lady of the United States of America is sitting in a criminal trial for the president's son, Hunter Biden? The question might end up being, according to a frequent guest here on the Will Kane show, Lexie Rigden, a criminal defense attorney. What is the definition of an addict? In America, semantics are everything now.

What is a man? What is a woman? Bill Clinton famously depends on what your definition of is. I do think the modern left's power is often derived from wordplay. It's distorting the sense of words. Because if you can distort words, if you can play semantics, you can distort reality. Words are our way of communicating, objectively, would be the target, reality to one another. But if you can distort our transmission cables, our system of communication, our words, then you can manipulate reality to one another.

You guys know the game that's been played. I mean, from everything from the definition of racism to misinformation, all you have to do is play with words. And then you can manipulate people's reality. So what's the definition of an addict? Well, in his memoir, Hunter Biden said he was smoking crack every 15 minutes. The fact that he was an addict, does that mean he at the time doesn't know he's an addict? You know, so not an intentional violation of federal firearm form. It's a game of semantics.

It's just constant. And I would think by anyone's common sense in our interview with Donald Trump, he said, look, all my policies are just centered around common sense. And common sense is what's been lost in America. Anyone's sense of common sense is, yeah, you smoke and crack every 15 minutes, you're an addict. And you know you're an addict. And you lied on a form. Of course, I don't think anybody listening or watching today has much faith. in the American justice system. There's a lot of people that say, that's a shame, you know,

that's wrong of you or me to lose faith in the justice system. You know, the justice system is a little bit like a republic or a democracy. Is it the best form of government? Is it perfect? No. It's just the best that we know. It's better than the alternatives. And our justice system has been better than the alternatives, but that certainly doesn't make it perfect. And you don't say to a battered wife, you know, you shouldn't point out that he's hitting you, you know, not focused on the fact, hey, he's hitting you. So it's not on the people noticing the justice system has been corrupted or institutionalized or captured by group think and weaponized from the highest levels.

It's not on those that notice who've undermined the justice system. It's not on those that pointed out who've undermined the justice system. It's those that abuse the system that has caused the lack of faith in this institution, in our justice system. And I don't think anyway sitting here today, it goes, you know, I don't have any faith that Hunter Biden's going to face any form of real justice should be criticized. It should probably be listened to as people accurately describing reality. We'll pay attention all throughout the week as the trial continues of Hunter Biden. But coming up next on the Will Kane show, reaction, criticism, highlights the most important parts of our exclusive interview.

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for the first interview, a former president Donald Trump, after his conviction in New York, 48 hours after he was convicted, we had a chance to sit down with him for something like 80, 85 minutes. He was open. He was in good spirits. He was in a good mood. I keep searching for the right word. I wouldn't say peaceful. I wouldn't certainly wasn't angry. I was going to ask him at one point, do you feel vengeful? And I didn't end up asking it. As I mentioned in yesterday's episode of the Will Kane podcast, it's a different interview, you know, than you would experience here on this show. Because here, when we do a long-form interview with somebody, I'm by myself. And I follow up and I listen and I'm curious. And I'm all those same things, but I have to defer as well. I have to be a part of it with three people.

I have to, and I feel very respectful of my co-hosts. And oftentimes they will ask questions that I'm thinking, so I don't have to have my hands on the steering wheel, but still changes the dynamic. It still changes the ability to pursue a linear line of questioning. But still, you know, it was shocking President Trump's mood because I didn't have to ask him if he was angry. I didn't have to ask him if he was vengeful. Because for 85 minutes, I got to hear from him. They say he hit nine birdies on that day, and Saturday said it played 25 holes of golf and hit nine. birdies so he said yeah I am in a good mood but my co-host Pete Hex had asked him are you worried about

you know going to jail you worried about going to house arrest and he said no I'm not worried he said in fact I saw one of my one of my um people on TV saying oh that would be bad that would be bad and he said he said don't beg don't don't say that is it is what it is you know we'll do what we have to do I don't know his his mindset was certainly remarkable um one of the moments from this interview that has received the largest amount of criticism and particularly targeted at me was when I intended to ask him how he would use the Justice Department. It's, I think, fairly well held, except for those in the firm anti-Trump, I would argue, even captured by a 2016 Trump derangement syndrome mindset that what we have seen in New

York is a weaponization of the Department of Justice, is law fair. I mean, CNN legal analysts writing in the Atlantic or New York magazine had written that never has this been done before. And a set of misdemeanors, which amounted to one crime, but charged up to 34 crimes, 34 instances because of 34 separate checks written. And by the way, the silliest commentary. For example, coming from a guy that I like, Colin Coward, Fox Sports, saying 34 to nothing, like it's a scoreboard, like it's a game, not understanding exactly what's happening with the justice system. It's never happened that this has been charged up to a felony through federal election law

that was passed on by the Federal Election Commission and the Southern District of New York who has jurisdiction over federal law. Never had it been done, ever. And it leads to the question, well, what could happen in the future? Could a prosecutor in Wyoming or in Deep Red Texas decide, you know what? I'm going after Joe Biden. That has not been done in America. As Kevin O'Leary, you know, Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary said, no, because we're trying to

protect the greater brand of the United States of America. And going after political opponents is a sign of a third world banana republic. So I wanted to ask Trump, like, where are you on this? In the past, you've talked about de-weaponizing the DOJ. Do you still feel that way? Do you think that you want retribution? Will you use the DOJ the same way? for example, has been done by Joe Biden.

So I started with, you know, you famously said, lock her up when it came to Hillary Clinton. But you didn't lock her up. And he interrupted me before I got to the part about how you will use the DOJ. And then he said this. You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, lock her up. You declined to do that as president. And purposely, because after I won, you know, it's different when you win. I see it tonight.

I'm going to UFC with Dana White. And I see fighters, they come in with hatred like you wouldn't believe it. It's amazing. It's a little metaphor in life, right? The hatred, the hatred. Then after the fight, somebody wins, somebody loses. Sometimes they get knocked out. Sometimes it's, but they hug and they kiss each other.

It's like crazy. I beat her. It's easier when you win. And they all said luck, and I felt, and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me. And then this happened to me. And so I may feel differently about it.

I can't tell you, I'm not sure I can answer the question. Hillary Clinton, I didn't say lock her up, but the people would all say, lock her up, lock her up, okay. Then we won. And I say, and I said pretty openly, I say, all right, come on, just relax. Let's go. We've got to make our country grade. So in response to that, the criticism has been he did say lock her up

and Will Kane didn't push back at all. And I would say to that, you're right. He did in the past say lock her up. It wasn't just crowds that said lock her up. He said, lock her up. Here's an example of some of the criticism. This is from Instagram. You can follow us on Instagram, Will Kane Show, or see Will Kane, my personal Instagram.

And this is what one commentator had to say on Instagram said from Ionitis Fitness. When Will was on first take on ESPN, I respected that he stood up for his. beliefs. I didn't always agree with him, but I respected him if he thought somebody was lying to his face. As soon as the president is lying to his face, I never said lock her up. Then he turns into a mute. No gumption. What happened to Will? Now, I will tell you, that comment, very reflective of a lot of comments out there. Like, how dare will, you know, sit there and let President Trump say that? And I just told you, he did say lock her up. And I didn't push back in that moment. And here's why. You're missing the forest for the trees.

If I decide in that moment to bicker with him about whether or not he had ever uttered the words lock her up, and he did on many occasions. If I decide to bicker in that moment, this interview becomes nothing, no different from how many different Caitlin's work at NBC and MSNBC? I don't know. There's like half a dozen Caitlin's, I think, CNN or NBC. All those interviews devolve into an interview of nothingness, bickering over small things like this. And by the way, it is small. it's not true that's right but it is small and let me explain to you why it's small because a he didn't lock her up that is the point it's not it is so unimportant in that

moment whether or not he admits to ever having said lock her up the point is he didn't lock her up he didn't use the DOJ and if you think Hillary Clinton has no crimes to be investigate. And by the way, if the best you can ever do with Donald Trump, sicking the federal government, the DOJ, several of which, like the Southern District of New York, chose not to go after him, and the Manhattan District Attorney's Office on a real estate developer in New York, and all you can come up with is some bookkeeping errors that you call fraud, let me explain to you this. He might be the cleanest real estate developer in New York, might be the cleanest real estate developer in New York if that's all you can come up with. You put all those institutions on any

real estate developer in New York, you're going to come up with more than bookkeeping ledgers. The point is he didn't lock her up. Now, by the way, some on the right are upset about that. They're upset. You said you'd do this. She's guilty of some of the same crimes they've now convicted Trump. She got away with a fine, a fine on calling, I believe, payment for the steel dossier, a legal expense as opposition research. She did virtually the exact same thing.

And by the way, that is one. If you believe that Hillary Clinton has no crimes in her background, you are living in Never, Never Land. As people say, oh, he tried, but he couldn't find anything. Get out of here. Never, never land. And he didn't lock her up. That's the point.

That's the substantive point. That is what matters. Okay. So you have missed the forest for the trees. And I think for those that are caught up in this moment, you are really suffering from Trump Drainment Syndrome locked into. 2016 what does it matter seriously substantively what does it matter what he did or did not say in 2016 what he matters is a what he did through 16 through 20 and he didn't lock her up and be

if you are concerned if you're truly concerned about the verbal dynamics of locking someone up why don't you listen to this clip one more time why don't you listen to the answer to the substantive point being made. I want to play that clip one more time to see if you can get beyond the points about Hillary Clinton and put your eyes through the windshield and not the rearview mirror. Listen. You famously said regarding Hillary Clinton, lock her up. You declined to do that as president. And purposely, because after I won, you know, it's different when you win. I see it tonight I'm going to UFC with Dana White. And I see fighters, they come in with hatred like you wouldn't believe it. It's amazing. It's a little metaphor in life, right? The hatred, they hate each.

Then after the fight, somebody wins, somebody loses, sometimes they get knocked out, sometimes it's, but they hug and they kiss each other. It's like crazy. I beat her. It's easier when you win, and they always had locked her, and I felt, and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing, and then this happened to me. And so I may feel differently about it. I can't tell you, I'm not sure I can answer the question. Hillary Clinton, I didn't say lock her up, but the people don't say lock her up, lock her up. Okay. Then we won. And I say, and I said pretty openly, I say, all right, come on, just relax. Let's go. We've got to make our country great.

I don't know. I can't say. It's a tough question. I asked him, would you use the DOJ in the same way of Joe Biden? In the past, he said, I want to de-weaponize the Department of Justice. Now he's saying, I don't know. And that is the substantive point. That is what you should be paying attention. Now, there's others on the right that say, good, you should. There are others on the right, I know, these people as well, go, no, no, no, you've got to be above it and you've got to, you've got to re-correct the justice system. You've got to de-weaponize it.

Wherever you fall, whatever. I think there's actually an interesting debate to be out on one. on both sides. Assurance of mutual destruction is what ends it, or trying to get rid of partisan hacks running the DOJ. But it doesn't, the point is, people like Keith Oberman, I think I can call him a colleague, because I do think we overlapped. I remember seeing him shuffle through the hallways with his little lap dog at times in the ESPN green room at South Street Seaport, tweeted the following in response to that. He said, he said, imagine being a, oh, we've got it blacked out, Well, I don't, imagine being a whore like Will Kane and letting this five-dimensional gas lading go by without even flinching.

Oh, come on, two days. What do we, what are we taking that word out? That's not one of the five-dirty words, two-a-ays. What are we doing here? Being conservative, I'm sorry. You know, I'll let you say it. It's not a tea party here. We're not, I mean, not the Republican Tea Party.

It's not a, you know, this isn't prim and proper. We're not on TV here. Say it exactly. it is. I don't need to edit that language. Oberman called me a whore. Okay. When I said, Oberman, are you a single-celled amoeba capable of only single thoughts, rudimentary, elementary thoughts, caught in the 2016 insanity zone. He just told you, regardless of what he said in 16, he may do it in the future to Joe Biden. That seems to be the point that matters here. It's like, I've been struggling to find the right metaphor. Your kid says, hey, daddy, daddy,

Daddy, we're going to the fair. Can we have ice cream? You go, you know, they don't have ice cream there. And by the way, it doesn't matter if they have it or not. You're not allowed to have ice cream. You can't. Why? Because I said so.

And then you get to the fair and you see they're selling ice cream cones. You said they didn't have ice cream cones here. What does it matter to that? I don't care. I told you, you can't have it because I said so. Like, what are you focused on this? I don't have a knife. And then I hold a knife to your throat.

You said you didn't have a knife. Whatever I said doesn't seem to be the most important part of what's going down in this moment. You just focused on whether or not he said lock her up. He's saying, in effect, I don't know, I may lock up Joe Biden. You can say that's right. You can say that's wrong. But that's what he's saying in that moment. It's true. I didn't follow up. I didn't bicker about that. Maybe I should have. And maybe there are times I would like to push back harder. I'd love a one-on-one interview with President Trump, right here on the Will Kane show. But if you really think this is some big moment, you are bumping your head against trees. You have no idea where you're going in the

forest. None. There are other big moments I wanted to highlight in this interview. I thought another big moment was a conversation about deportations. He said he's going to deport illegal immigrants. Millions. Millions have come into the country. And I find, by the way, President Trump present. Okay, that's part of his, I think that's a real challenge in interviewing him. He's present. What I mean by that is everybody thinks he, you know, filibuster, no, other politicians fill buster to avoid answering a question in a calculated way he just follows his thoughts wherever they're going you know and what i find is he does have a pretty good ability to come back so you ask a question i think at one point i asked something about the doj he starts then he starts going to

foreign policy then he starts going next thing you know we're talking about how many cars are parked in afghanistan and i'm like where did this question begin and then he does come back at the very end and somehow readdress, I don't know if he ties it in, but he re-addresses the question. And so he said, you know, on deportations, so being present, he always reacts to the question. Like when he brought up UFC, I don't think that's a planned answer. You know, I'm going to UFC tonight, and, you know, these fighters are angry. So I asked him about, yeah, but can you really pull off deportations? This is what he had to say.

How can you implement deportations and do you think the public will have, the appetite, the stomach for watching deportations on their television screen. Well, the second part of that question is so great and so tough. Because, you know, the radical left is going to start saying, oh, look, so you'll get rid of ten really bad ones. And one, you know, beautiful mother who they think is guilty of something, and maybe she is, maybe. And it'll become a story or a family that's a good family and came in wrong,

and, you know, they're going to show it. then it's going to always be tough. It's not going to be easy. And we have to use a lot of good judgment, but the way you get rid of them is the local police. You know, the local police know these people by their first name, their middle name, and their last name.

The local police are great. They're just not allowed to do their job. They're afraid of losing their pension. They're afraid of losing their wife or husband. They're going to lose their house. They're losing everything. And one of the things I'm doing is giving local police immunity from prosecution.

They get prosecuted. When they do their job, they get like your soldiers. So the how there is I'm going to empower local police and reinforce immunity for them in enforcing the laws. The interesting part is, what about when they splay it all over television and AOC dressed in all white, leans against a chain-link fence? There was a time in America when deportations were kind of like, yeah, that's what happens if you're an illegal immigrant. You get deported. Cheet and Zhang, l'amigra, lemigra, you know, running away.

because that's kind of the point. Millions of people have come in. And by the way, some on Instagram, this is from Instagram as well, commented the following when it comes to deportations. M. Heinrich said, all you have to do is stop giving out free stuff and they will leave on their own.

She's pointing out the incentive structure, the incentive mechanism. We talked about sanctuary cities in that interview as well. And Todd Martin, 387, said it doesn't matter. They are illegals and bankrupting our system, our schools, our health care. And so one, so one get them out, um we have our own to take care of and keep letting these people in there will there isn't

anything left for the people who worked and contributed into the system and paid taxes hey um two a day's in young establishment james you guys or maybe it was tin foil pat tech this morning guest hosting last week sean defy pointed out i believe right guys that these aren't all people just look into you know take advantage of the health care system that these people are i mean a lot coming for other potentially much more nefarious reasons isn't that something that Sean pointed out two days? Yeah, he definitely did. He was talking about the same exact thing, right, James? Yeah, I think President Trump pointed out

in the interview, too, that he got a lot of folks from China, a lot of young folks. It looks like they're building an army here. Yes. Military-aged men, people get pointed out. And by the way, how many are on the terrorist watch list? We don't know. We don't know.

We don't know. Nobody knows. And what in the world are all these people from China coming? You know, like, that is the oddest thing. It's, you I think Americans, to some extent, go, oh, okay, times are tough. They were, not as much. In El Salvador. Okay, I'm leaving El Salvador to get a better life in America.

What? You're crossing the Pacific going through Mexico and coming up to the southern border? We played a clip from an illegal immigrant on Fox and Friends where one dude, I think he was from Turkey, was saying, this is sketchy. You know, these guys coming across with me, I don't know who these dudes are. Like, you guys should check on them. Like, he's the illegal immigrant as well. And he's worried about the other illegal immigrants. This is such a big deal.

And I'm afraid we won't even realize it until it's entirely too late. And then I wanted to share this one other moment. Rachel Campos Duffy pressed President Trump on the way she framed this is that people have lost trust in institutions. And the only way you're going to get trust back in institutions, whether it's the Justice Department or the intelligence agencies, is to begin to be transparent, to be open with them. And I was yesterday flying from New York back to Dallas. and I was on our Facebook chat. The Facebook and YouTube chats super active yesterday. And I saw some people saying President Trump really backed off when it came to Epstein.

But listen to this when she asked about declassifying various secrets. So if you were president, would you declassify, you can answer yes or not at this. Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files?

Yeah, yeah, I would. All right. I guess I would. I think that less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would, or at least... Do you think that would restore trust?

Help restore trust? Yeah, I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died. It would be interesting to find out what happened there because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn't happen to be working, et cetera, et cetera. But you'd go a long way toward that one. The other stuff I would, I would definitely do the January 6th because, oh, beyond all of them, because what happened?

How about the unselected committee? They had meetings, you know, they had all Democrats and two failed Republicans, right? Cheney and Brian Adam Kinsinger. Well, everybody pointed out, whoa, you know, and again, I think it's a stream of consciousness. I think it's his answering in the moment. kind of backs off from Epstein and people like, oh, there's pictures of Trump with Epstein, whatever. You know, there's other stuff, too, about Epstein. And we've talked about here on the show, like, was he an asset?

Was he a Mossad asset? What was the point in all of this? So, I mean, I would love to hear the truth behind what it was going on with Jeffrey Epstein. I also think it's incredibly tentacled and deep. I thought that was a fascinating moment from the interview with Donald Trump. you can go check out the whole thing it's up on the will cane show youtube page right now um like i said like 600 000 views on um the live stream yesterday and if you're listening on radio or on podcast on spotify or apple and you want to watch it you can just go to the

will cane show it's at will cane show on youtube and and it's right there for you whenever you'd like the full interview with president donald trump next is it a basketball play was it a basketball play, or is it racial resentment? The saga of Caitlin Clark. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com. The victim of racial resentment in the WNBA.

It's the Will Kane Show streaming live at the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Every day, 12 o'clock Eastern Time, join us right there. Come hang out. Clubhouse, having fun, talking about the news, trying to set us back on the right foot in America. Hangouts as well on Spotify or Apple, just subscribe, and we'll be with you five days a week on those platforms. I want to get into the Caitlin Clark saga in just a moment, but, back in the control room to Wilicia

today we've got two days Dan and young establishment James tin foil pads on vacation today I believe he's currently sitting at the beach you guys had a question or two

for me you said what's up yeah I was just curious being in the room with Trump doing that interview I mean he just went through this verdict

and everything what's he like in the room that people don't really know I mean so many people love him so many people hate him and have these strong feelings

what's he like as a person and being in that room like kind of off-camera almost well you know what's interesting and this is what I want to always like just be open and honest with anyone whoever listens or watches me

and so you know I wasn't originally and like a lot of people weren't in a supporter of Donald Trump and if I'm being real about why a lot of it was actually

personality from afar who I read him to be in a speech or a rally or in a in a debate. And it wasn't policy. Maybe even early on I had started because I think he's also effectuated a policy or ideological shift in the right, which I find actually really, really healthy and good with a bigger focus on the middle class and bringing jobs back to America, more doveish view on foreign policy. But like anybody and everybody in the beginning of your

reaction is just to Trump, the man, the dude. Forget ideas. It's just Trump. And for most people, it still is. So my perception back then from afar was a judgment based upon my perception of his personality. Then I start to evolve and I'm like, well, it's useful his personality. And he's exposing things about people. And it's almost like he's sodium pentatoll, he's truth serum. And all of a sudden, the ugliest is coming out of everyone. And like, oh, is this what you always thought of me or anybody disagrees with you? Did you always think shut up? Did you always think everybody was racist? And it was like all of a sudden this like ripping the mask off of people moment.

I started to see the utility in that. And institutionally as well, the media. I've talked about this. I worked at CNN from 2009 or 10 to about 14. And I've said this. CNN was biased. Biased. I do not think they had morphed into agenda.

And I think there was a third iteration of their morph into propaganda after agenda. But he made me. realized, was it always there? Were they simply biased? And now he's exposed that they're actually have an agenda and they're willing to engage in propaganda. So he started to expose the institutions and I'm gravitating, right? I'm like, okay, this is bad. Like, you can't cure cancer unless you first diagnose cancer. And he's forcing a diagnosis of all these problems. And then there's bigger institutions beyond that, like, you know, the Department of Justice or the NIH or any of these other things, and you're like, wow, what I'm driving towards two days is the last evolution

for me and sort of seeing the, not just value, unique value in Donald Trump is his personality. So, you know, I'm sure because of that, I've met him twice, if I'm able to be able to twice. If I'm, I'm sure I'll be accused of, like, in the tank or in the can, whatever. I just got to tell you the way it is, what I think. He's incredibly charming. He's incredibly likable. I am sure he's a bad guy to have as your enemy. I am sure. But he says it in the interview.

Like I think in the interview I said, I think I asked the question from a viewer, what is the first thing you do every morning? Like what's your routine, what your habit? Like his lack of sleep and his diet are legendary, you know? And he kind of starts to answer, and then he meanders like he always does. And he said, you know, I just love life.

And I think that has got to be true, like the amount of things that he does, you know, like that day we interviewed him. He did two fundraisers, an hour and a half interview with us, and then went to the UFC fight that night. And like, I think nine out of ten people more, nine and a half. I know me. At some point, I'd be like, I don't want to talk anymore. I don't want to talk to people anymore.

And I love people. I love life. I love people. But he has an endless appetite for, like, being around people and engaging. And, you know, I said this before on my, when I. I met him once before. He wants you to have a good time. Are you happy, you know?

And like, do you like this? Especially in one of his places, like that, Minster, if you do the interview there, whatever. So, what's he like? Really charming, to be honest. Now, I'm sure that if I'm one of the half a dozen Caitlin's at CNN or NBC, and I bicker with him over every little thing, I get a different version. I'm sure that I do. I think I do. I haven't been that person, you know.

But, by the way, if somebody else pointed out, did you guys know, you guys know, Has he lost weight? Someone asked me that. I think he answers, yes. He definitely looked that way, yeah, for sure. And a lot of people pointed out that they thought, like, Biden couldn't even get through an interview like that. So his, you know, a Q me right now is great. Oh, he pointed that out.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, but he looks and seems as charismatic as what you're talking about, whether you love him, hate him either way. he has also an unpredictable style somewhat you start to think it's predictable of answering a question you're like it's going to be long it's going to meander i'm telling you just because i don't i asked myself at any point in this hour and a half to your point of joe biden did he ever falter did he ever at 77 years old and i think the answer is no there were moments there was only one or two in the interview. The three of us have done this together so often. You can get a general sense of pace and you can kind of read, not even body language, but energy from each other, like who's

going to go next? It's really unique. And I don't care if this sounds like it's lax humility. I think our show, Fox and Friends Weekend, has arrived at the level of chemistry to, you know, be second only to maybe inside the NBA on TNT. He said it, yeah. It's just, it's incredible. I've never been a part of something with this kind of chemistry with not just we like each other, and not just respect, but like reading each other. It's really, But there was only one moment in the interview where it's like, oh, oh, he's done talking. He just stopped. I'm like, well, I didn't expect that.

And we didn't know who was going to go or what question to ask. I fumbled one out about Ukraine. And I did ask myself, is that because he forgot what he was saying or he didn't have all of a sudden he's like, but I don't think so. I think it's just kind of unpredictable and it was late in the interview. So no, in an hour and a half, no sign of mental slipping. Yeah, like where he had that pause moment, what was that a couple weeks ago? So, like, that didn't seem like that's an issue during this interview, you know, that kind of thing. I didn't see it.

Yeah. Yeah, I saw nothing like that. How old? I saw nothing. If you didn't know his age, how old do you think he would be? Well, I'm bad at that. I don't know. I mean, how old would I be?

People accuse me fresh this weekend of dyeing my hair, you know. Still, I mean, smoke. I don't. Dying your hair, there's smoke fire there. I don't know. that it comes up a lot It does It does

There's grays here on the side There is oh look at that You can start to see I don't dye my hair What's that saying? There's a hit dog hollers To it Ran

Hey by way next time we have Ram Paul on All of a sudden he's a blonde Saw him last night on Hannity I'm like whoa Really blonde That's what older guys do They go blonde all of a sudden So I don't know, James.

I don't know how old I would guess. I mean, I will tell you this. I hope I have that energy at 77. I don't think I will. I hope I have that energy at 77. All right. Let's dive in quickly to the saga of Caitlin Clark. WNBA superstar Caitlin Clark,

all-time points leader in women's college basketball, has received a rough welcome to the WNBA. this weekend, Kennedy Clark of the Chicago Sky, gave her a hard body check. Not a basketball play. Everybody agrees. Flagrant foul. Nothing to do with just playing hard basketball. And it's interesting.

It's led to conversation everywhere, not just in sports media. I mean, I think they're doing it on CNN. They're doing it on Fox. And the question is, what's driving this? Like, what's going on? And I see a lot of... It's kind of... is the people that see race everywhere, all of a sudden can't see race.

Like, hey, welcome to the WNBA. It's just a physical basketball play. Come on. Get real. It's not. Because it's part of a larger set of circumstances that begin with WNBA former stars saying, she's not that great. Cheryl Swoops lied or was like so,

willfully ignorant about Caitlin Clark's scoring and history and all that, diminished her records, the former women's college basketball leader, Linnae, I don't know, also said, I will always be the real scoring. They're like, why? Why is she being diminished? And she arrives at the NBA, WNBA, and she's getting this type of treatment, these type of fouls. And by the way, she's a star. I don't care what sports you're in. Stars are protected. Stars are protected. Wayne Gretzky, Steph Curry. I'm talking about. by the referees in the league. Stars are protected. Quarterbacks, because the moneymaker, and she is the moneymaker of that league. She is the rising tide. She's lifting all boats,

new shoe deals, television ratings, all thanks to Caitlin Clark. And, you know, she is not just receiving hard treatment and hard fouls, though there's women, like Kennedy Clark went to social media right afterwards and it was like all she's good for is three pointers and just everything is an insult everything is resentment and that's not just basketball and if you always see race and everything i have to ask why are you blind now why now are you blind is the answer because it's racism in a direction that you're unwilling to see this is in part yes because she's white it's also because they want to put it in her place. Oh, she's everything.

We've been doing this for a long time. Also because she's a rookie. But she's not the only rookie. She's not the only celebrated star. She's the biggest celebrated star to ever come in. But all of that, plus the fact that the most celebrated star in the WNBA is white has led to resentment. It's star resentment. It's attention resentment.

It is racial resentment. And that's the truth about what's going on with Caitlin Clark. And it is a shame. Every single woman in the WNBA will benefit from the presence of Caitlin Clark, every single one of them. But if you play a majority black sport and you're white, good luck. Luca Donchich is getting over that hum. He's been disrespected as well, by the way. We could pull up clip after clip and commentary after commentary.

My old friend Stephen A. Smith recently said he didn't belong on first team all NBA. Stephen A voted for him for first team all NBA, then reconsidered. Maybe because he's such a New York Knicks homer and wanted to put Jailen Brunson on there. But numerous individuals diminishing Luca Donchage, you can't anymore. You simply can't. I mean, he has driven his team to the NBA finals. And good luck betting against him. By the way, as you know, big homer for the Dallas Mavericks.

Young Establishment, James, big homer for the Boston Celtics. Our guest host last week, Tyrus, big fan of the Boston Celtics. We're going to lean into that and see if we need a little trash talk going a little later this week when we tip off the NBA finals. But if you are the minority in that majority sport, it's not unlike it was back in the day being a black quarterback. Get ready. Get ready. You're going to have to earn it. And above and beyond earning it. And that's what's happening if we're being real to Caitlin Clark.

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