Will Cain Country - Biden Says Lock Up Trump, While The Left Pushes Story That Trump Loves Fascists! With Alex Marlow

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Story #1: President Joe Biden tells a campaign office that former President Donald Trump needs to be locked up. Plus, the pros and cons of Trump appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience. A conversation with Breitbart Editor-In-Chief, Alex Marlow.  Story #2: Is Southern culture on the rise? Is country music going mainstream just one element of this? A conversation with The Crew. Story #3: The story that is about to drop that could "End Donald Trump's campaign." Is it The Atlantic's story that Trump loves Adolf Hitler, or is it something different? Will breaks down why you should be skeptical of a media driven "October Surprise." Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Biden says lock him up, put him in jail, get rid of Donald Trump. Plus the pros and cons of Trump appearing with Joe Rogan. We break it down with the editor-in-chief of Breitbart, Alex Marlowe. Two, the South will rise again, not politically, not a civil war. The South will dominate culture. And it already has the rise of the South. Three, the October surprise, the story that is about to drop that could end Donald Trump. That's what we're told could be coming.

Did it already come today? Is it that Trump loves Hitler? It's the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page, terrestrial radio market to market across this great United States of America. You can subscribe to the Will Cain Show on Spotify or Apple

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Big important news today as what was predicted right here, approximately one week ago with racket.news is Matt Taibi. There will be an October surprise. Will it be a manufactured story that leaves very little time for rebuttal? Or will it be a true scandal that is covered up a la Hunter Biden by the mainstream media? Did we see the drop today of the October surprise that is intended to end the candidacy of Donald Trump? Don't go anywhere because we want to break that down for the next hour.

But indulge me this moment of diversion. Please indulge me just for a moment because I'm going to tell you where my mind at was literally five minutes ago. And I'm going to tell you why. What actor, if he is in a show, if you're scrolling through Netflix, Amazon Prime, or however you stream your television,

and his picture is in the thumbnail, are you almost guaranteed to click? Are you guaranteed to watch? I put that into the text message chain of the Willisha, everybody here on the Will Cain show. And I'm going to tell you why, boys, I asked this question. But for me, it was easy. And what I realized about myself is in the age of content, I actually think the list is getting longer. I think it might be an indictment of me or it's a compliment to the state of acting.

But there is, at this point, I would say, a list of like 10 actors. I'm clicking on the thumbnail. I'm streaming. I'm watching the show or movie. And what inspired this is a recent inclusion that I didn't even realize I liked this guy so much

and that I would watch. And it is Benicio del Toro. I really like Benicio del Toro. I'm not talking about as a person or as politics. I have no idea. But I like A, the characters that he plays, it's always like,

I'll be honest with you, it's not a like huge range it's almost always kind of the same guy who is brooding, menacing on the edge of violence and it's magnetic but I also like the choices he makes like I love Saccario

I love the movie about the two Navy SEALs in Southern California that's dealing marijuana and dealing with the Mexican dog cartel I also love the usual suspects but I asked you guys to start rattling off names of people that you would

must click will watch capital w i l l will watch if these guys are included and i kicked it off by saying denzil washington if denzil's in i am in zero doubt don't think i've missed i think i might maybe i'm not sure i've seen everything with denzil that's a good call i would watch there's some i would skip of his but you know i told you mine daniel day lewis number one you quickly identified yourself as a hipster because you said Daniel Day Lewis Benedict Cumberbatch Michael Fassbender and Joaquin Phoenix and it's like okay hipster

all by the way capable of good performances and good movies but this is as much about the choices they make as it is the characters they play right I don't even think you believe walking Phoenix because I would bet you're not going to see Joker 2 you're just you're not going to and so he's done something weird fair point And I told you on Fastbender and Cumberbatch, okay, okay, first of all, get off the BBC.

But second of all, they're all very capable of a great movie and also capable of doing a movie about a couple who's fallen into depression. Their marriage is in Malays and one of them has an affair. And as you pointed out, Dan, and then the movie's over. And that's the movie. You don't want to watch that? Look, that sounds very, very exciting. I like stories like that. No.

This is exciting. I don't sign up. for depression. It's like, oh, cool, 90 minutes of depression. Excited. Let's watch that. What do I do after this? I want, just think about my life?

Yeah. I want to be entertained. And I realize something about myself. I'm entertained by history, violence, and tension. That's what I am entertained by. Russell Crow, by the way. You mentioned a glad. I was just going to say him.

Yeah, he's good. Okay. Here's my thought. He is in a category two. There's a category two of guys who make really good choices from time to time and then make choices that I'm like, I've no interest in that and you're not compelling enough to watch it. I'm going to tell you the guys that I consider in that category. Guys like Matt Damon. Guys like George Clooney, pretty good, but not guaranteed to click on everything that he chooses to be in.

Chris Pratt, love Chris Pratt, but I'm not going to be in on every single choice Chris Pratt is made. Russell Crow is in this group Philip Seymour Hoffman's in this group and there's no doubt how great he was he was awesome but I don't want to see every movie with Philip Seymour Hoffman Tom Cruise is in this group for me and I know that like you guys all jumped in on this

you love Tom Cruise but like you're really going to watch every mission impossible heck yeah it's the same movie after a while I don't care you give me the same story different places I'm in how much time you all have that's insane Tom Cruise is like the rock He's great

But some of his movies Are a little too popcorn And for me Just like Daniel Day Lewis's movies Are a little too artsy For me at times So here's my group You tell me if you disagree

I told you it's getting longer Christian Bale I'm gonna watch it if he's in it Like me some Christian Bail Bradley Cooper If he's in it And the choices that he's made I'm there

So so I don't know. He's on the edge, by the way, because he made some choice about, like, the orchestra guy and black and white, you know, I watched that for 15 minutes

and turned it off. Couldn't do it. And so he's on the edge. He's burning a little bit of credibility with me, a little bit of currency. Vince Vaughn, Leonardo DiCaprio,

in, in. Matthew McConaughey, Brad Pitt, in. And what I realized, recently, Benicio del Toro. So I just started watching this show that came out called Escape from Donamora, maybe.

It's a prison in upstate New York. I didn't even realize this came out in 2018. It's a series about those two guys that had a prison break in upstate New York, and it led to the two-week manhunt that was on every news channel. Can you guys remember this? Like, they were gone forever, and it's, I don't know, I think Benisa del Toro, besides the fact, that it's led me down the Wikipedia rabbit hole, which is always great for me. I start

reading about this prison. I start reading about that area of the country, which is way up there by Vermont and Montreal, but still America. And this manhunt, I don't know. It's doing it for me right now, but in no small part because of Benisio del Toro. Those are my guys. That's my must see. Drop in the comment section. Tell us who you will watch if they are in. But, well, let's bring those in a little bit later. I'll get to the. those answers, Dan, we'll bring those in a little bit, but I have to get to this because it's big news. It is Joe Biden mentioning it is time to lock Donald Trump up. Plus, an October surprise that could end Donald Trump's campaign. One journalist says it's been pitched. He's seen

the story. He has not yet reported. Was it dropped today? Donald Trump apparently loves Hitler. Let's get into all that with story number one. Alex Marlowe's editor-in-chief of Breitbart. Dot News, and he joins us now. What's up, Alex? Hey, Will, nice to be on your show. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, I'm glad to have you on the show.

Let's get straight to Joe Biden yesterday. After years of being told that Donald Trump is a would-be dictator, that would use the military to lock up his political opponents, Joe Biden took to the microphone and said this. This is the guy who also wants me. We place every civil servant, every single one, thinks he has a right of the Supreme Court ruling on immunity to be able, if need be, if he, if it was the case, to actually eliminate, physically eliminate, shoot, kill someone who is a, he believes to be the threat to him. I mean, so I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said this five years ago, you'd lock me up.

We got to lock him up. we got to lock him up and you know alice what might be as a interesting in that clip as joe biden is the crowd celebrates at the same time they're sitting there going oh my god he's going he's going to lock up his his opponents and he's going to lock up the media they celebrate their guy saying we got to lock him up yeah well the democrats do constant projection them saying that trump is a fascist on the same exact day that Joe Biden's out there calling a lock up Trump. This is what they do. They call J.D. Vance weird. J.D. Vance is the most normal guy that's in American politics, period. Will, I know you've

met almost everyone. I've met almost everyone. He's the most normal guy there is. Donald Trump is the highest energy guy in American politics. There's no close second. They're saying he's low energy. And now they call Trump a fascist. In the meantime, they're openly fantasizing about locking him up. They've always been this way. They've always wanted to lock us up. And they have. They accuse Trump of going to lock up his political opponents. Paul Manafort. Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, Peter Navarro, how many people do they have to lock up? And they're trying to kill Trump,

not just lock them up. They want them dead. I mean, I think that's clear in the kind of language they talk about there. By the way, just I think you're 100% right on projection. And I think, I said this, I said this so recently is this weekend on Fox and Friends, the average American needs to begin to familiarize themselves

with the concept of projection. It's like, it's a little bit abstract psychology, but you really see what's going on. Like, almost everything they're accusing Donald Trump of doing are things that they are actually doing. I mean, like, and I think, and I don't think it's just a they, like a political class. I think it's actually a human nature as well.

Like, those that constantly yell racism, I think, are the ones that harbor really deep racist thoughts. I mean, I just think that if you're looking at one prism through which to view America, it is projection. Yeah, it is the main talking point of the left, and you can see it right now as their closing arguments are essentially just accusing Trump of all of their weaknesses. I mentioned the one about being low energy.

Trump's out there. He's doing a rally every day. He's getting up early. He's going on Fox and Friends. He's taking phone interviews in between. They shot him in the head a few weeks ago. Hello. And they're acting like he's high energy.

Kamlo was at the vice president's mansion yesterday. What was he doing there? She did a couple of sit-down interviews with friendly media that didn't go well. There's no, it's not even close. So, but they accused Trump of being a low energy guy, because it deflects. This was the whole premise of the Russian collusion hoax. It was manufactured because Hillary Clinton was very vulnerable because her and bills ties to Russia.

My colleague, Peter Schweitzer, report on all this stuff, the uranium one connections, Bill getting half a million dollars for a 45 minute speech. All of this stuff made the Clinton's vulnerable to accusations that they were Russian assets. So what do they do? They say Trump's the Russian asset. That's their playbook. here's another example they're currently running with rhetoric like trump is unwell um tim waltz recently

called him mad he's descended into madness painting a picture that not only is he low energy but he's losing his mind he is either old or insane well we of course know that has been the story about sitting president joe biden for four years and comela harris was asked about that and her role in not alerting the American public to the mental fitness of the sitting president. Watch this question and answer. Can you say that you were honest with the American people about what you saw in those moments with President Biden as you were with him again and again repeatedly in that time? Of course. Joe Biden is an extremely accomplished, experienced, and capable in every way that

anyone would want if they're president and you never saw anything like what happened at the debate night behind closed doors with him it was a bad debate people have bad debates should he that he is absolutely that's the reason why you're here and he's not running for the top of the ticket well you'd have to ask him if that's the only reason why what do you think i am running for president of united states joe biden is not wow you know what is interesting that's nbccc um I'm a big believer, Alex, in follow-ups or everything in the interview. There's no, like, question that, we used to talk about the gotcha question. There's no perfectly framed question to get a candidate off their talking point.

And you see that. And she talks about past tense, right? She said, he's accomplished, he's experienced. She doesn't say he's mentally fit. She says capable, so I'll say that. She didn't say capable. But she doesn't address the real issue. Is he losing his faculties, right?

She does not address that in her role. in covering that up. But the follow-up really shows her limitations. I'm surprised. I'm happy NBC followed up in that interview. And you begin to see the limitations of Kamala Harris and the inability to get beyond the initial talking point, which evades answering the question,

why did you cover up for him? Don't you think he's not fit? Yeah, you nailed that this is her entire strategy in these interviews, is, to not answer a single tough question and to assume that if there's a time limit and she's very well coached, she's got the best, one of the best Democrat political strategist in the business and David Plough at her side. And he's saying these interviews are only so long. If you fill a buster enough, they'll move on to a different question. And that's the whole strategy. And it's unworthy

of being president of the United States. You should be able to answer tough questions. You should be able to be fluent in all the hardest issues. But they've taken an approach that she will just try to run out the clock and not answer any of these questions. That's why, as you say, the follow-up matters the most. It does. It's everything. And that's why, by the way, I believe it's been confirmed this morning that Kamala Harris will not appear with Joe Rogan. She's declined an invitation to do the Joe Rogan podcast. Of course not. While Trump, right, it was the most predictable thing in the world, like zero percent chance that was going to happen. Yeah. But Rogan apparently invited her because he's invited Trump

and he's going to have Trump on on Friday. That's an interesting one. Do you think the pros for Trump outweigh the cons in appearing with Rogan? I'm confident right now that Trump's on top of his game.

He's been very sharp lately. He's not making any mistakes. He's staying disciplined. He's bringing conversations back to issues that he's very comfortable with. He seems very confident right now, which projects well. I think that it will motivate

I bet you Rogan has a ton of people in his audience who would not vote. So I think they're going to be convincedable. So I do think it's a good move. Rogan, I do have a beef with him, though, that he just won't come out and back Trump. And I find it to be he's marshalling this audience of anti-woke people. And he won't say that there's one political party and there's one guy that represents that party that really is the only alternative to the wokeification of America. And he won't come out and do that. And that really does annoy me. So I wouldn't have hated it if Trump didn't want to. to do it but overall if i was managing trump i would say it's the right move it doesn't as annoy me as much as it annoys other people um i just don't think here's what so i want to weigh the

pros and cons with you together so um let's talk about the cons first so rogan i think i don't know rogan i've never met rogan my suspicion is rogan's self image is not that of a political person right he thinks of himself as a culture person and a curious person and he has managed to cultivate an audience i don't know if it's still this way but it certainly was at one time that you would have called bipartisan there've been people of both political stripes listening to rogan right and he would have described himself he does describe himself as a liberal he says he's a liberal um i mean Bernie Sanders social liberals so forth but it's clear if you read between the lines rogan is headed it in a certain direction. And if you and I both placed bets, my bet is he's voting for Trump, okay? But I don't

think he likes the idea. I don't think he likes the idea of being on the right. I just, I don't, for whatever reason, that's not appealing to him as a brand. And I, what I wonder what that means is, you know, for you it means he should come out full-throated and say what we suspect he would do privately. But what I wonder is, what will he do in this interview? Like, will he try, to, and I don't begrudge him this. If he wants to do it, do it. Like, fact check Trump. You know, Jamie pull this up. Jamie pull that up. Will he

try to retain the idea that he's not on the right by being a hard fact checker on Trump and is that a potential con? By the way, Trump should be fact. We should also be fact checked. And I actually trust Rogan to fact check him more than CNN, right? Like, it's not going to be this like

fake yellow flag referee on every little semantical thing Trump says. But I just wonder is what that will create in the dynamic in the interview if rogan goes into it saying okay i am going to be he's not a he's not a debater and he's not a cross-examiner that's not who he is but but he will i wouldn't be surprised if he pushes back on trump yeah i think he will i'm to the first part of your point it's the will i personally i'm a conservative and i'm a republican but what motivates me to get out of bed in the morning is my hatred of the left i think

the left to destroy this country. I have a bunch of small kids. I know you've got some kids. I don't want the left to run the country. And, you know, an election year, it just becomes clearer to me that there's one group of people who stand against the trans stuff and the open borders and the end of law and order in our cities. And I just find that people who won't clearly get off the sidelines. There's a weakness to it that is not what I tend to think of Rogan. And that's why it sticks out at me that he won't just take that last little step. But to your point, I understand your point completely. And I think that if I was Trump, I would welcome a tough interview.

I think this is where he shines relative to Harris. If I was Rogan, I would ask the tough questions because that's his reputation. So I think that if they stay authentic, I think it'll go well for both of them. And if they're trying to overthink it, which they won't. I think that it'll go exactly as people imagine. It'll be a really interesting conversation. I think there will be some tough questions. I think everyone will listen to it.

And we'll all learn a lot about both of them. I like how you said that. I think you're exactly right, if they're both authentic, if they don't go into it trying to think about what the audience wants. And what I described for you was a calculus that I suspect Rogan could be making in his own head about how to not alienate a portion of his audience. But the truth is, you just got to do what you just said. Just got to be authentic.

Yeah. Now on the pro side, on the pro side for Trump, do you think this audience is actually something that can help trump so if i'm right that that rogan used to have these people that that i don't know if they're swayable or they're independent they wouldn't call themselves republicans or but they're open to the idea of trump i wonder it with rogan is trump hitting an audience he's big so you do it period you do it because it's big right but is is there actually um a tangible win in the audience with Rogan?

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a huge upside for Trump. Then the more you've got me thinking about, the more I think there is. I think he's going to reach two incredibly important groups of people. There's some overlap in the two groups. But the first one is, according to our analysts of Breitbart, our Washington Bureau chief, Matt Boyle, who's a savant on this stuff, he thinks male voters are really going to be what swing this election.

And if they turn out overwhelmingly for Trump, as we could be seeing, because again, we're seeing this huge cultural shift, particularly of young males towards the Republican Party, if they really turn out for Trump, he's going to cakewalk and we're going to know that Trump won early on. If they don't show up, then we could see a Kamala win. We could see one of these painful things that drag out for weeks. So that's a big deal. And those people listen to Rogan. The other thing is he's got this huge following that are purely, I think, keeping track of cultural stuff. He's the number one podcast on Spotify. They're just clicking on it to listen. not all those people are going to vote.

And if Trump comes on and he is himself and he's smart and he's witty and he's in command of the issues and he's funny like he always is, then I think he's going to add more voters and he's going to lose. He might say something that turns off someone who's fenced sitting, but I think that's going to be very few. I think he only has stuff to gain here. And I think you're right. So your contention is it's not so much he wins over someone who might be thinking of voting

for Kamala he wins over someone who's like uh to hell with it man i don't know if i'm gonna go vote nailed it exactly yeah um the only other thing so i wonder if trump's are the only thing about rogan that i sometimes wonder we'll leave this last question for this is has he already hit that audience you know he's everywhere right now right von full sinned andrew shultz full sin being the knelk boys there's a lot of overlap in those audience and Rogan is way, way, way high at the top. He's way bigger than those. But I almost wonder if he hasn't already reached those audiences

and you factor that in on the limitation of the pros on this. Yeah, this would be the main pushback, which is that Trump appears to be winning at this point. And if you don't believe the polls or the prediction markets, just look at the panic that's set in with the absurd narratives that are coming out of the Democrats, the clear panic, the attitude, the Obama's. everyone saw clips of that Liz Cheney and Maria Shriver event with Kamala Harris, where everyone

looks sullen. It looks like a funeral. So it looks like Trump's doing well. And so him doing two hours with the tough interviewer, there is a chance he stumbles. And then he could go backwards. And he's probably mostly doing it at this point, Will, because he wants to convince the country that he's incredibly robust. I've spent a fair bit of time with him this year. And I think he's semi-obsessed with this. I think that's why he's convinced. mention speech was so long. I think that's why he continues to do the long rallies. I think he wants people to know that he's not old, he's not feeble, and he's robust. Okay, we got the point. We understand that. He's been working on top. Yeah, I think that has been hammered. That's been hammered to me.

So I see that as, I think you've raised the best objection you could raise to it. So, okay, let's move on to this. I found this fascinating. This is from MSNBC. This is one of their hosts, Alex Wagner talking to some black voters. Now, these are, it looks like at least from the signage in this video clip, they are Trump supporters. So they're, I don't know that they're independent. They may already be with Trump. But I found fascinating what they had to say about Kamala Harris as a potential president. Watch this. Well, for me, the very first time I ever heard the name Kamala Harris, it was an association to locking up parents for a truancy. That was the first time. I ever heard of her name. And I really didn't understand how this person claims to be a black woman, but yet she's

locking up black women and black men and separating families. This is the thing that is, Trump talks about this a lot. He says, you know, Kamala Harris became black when it was convenient. Yeah. Can you, can you talk to me about, do you feel, do you agree with him on that? Do you feel like she's wearing her blackness? Absolutely. She's sworn into the, when she's sworn to the Senate, it was as the first Indian American. Thank you. Which is, it's fine. We don't care. We all know she's not black. Let's understand it.

We are all clear of that. But my point of view, like I told you early, she's already been there. She's in office right now. Okay, that clip has everything in it, by the way. Wow. Amazing. Right? It deals with the identity politics part of this equation because the left, that's their big tool, right?

Appealed to you by your superficial characteristics, your gender, your race, whatever it may be. And it shows the limitations of that with these voters. they then, if the clip went on just a little bit longer, Alex, went on to talk about, like, substance. They went on to say, she's not a commander in chief that you feel good putting on the world stage against other world leaders. And they kept saying, that's what matters to them, right? They don't care about a race. You're not appealing to me because you're telling me you're black. You're not a commander chief.

They kept saying that and going back to that. I don't know how that interview ended on MSNBC, but it should have ended with steam coming out of their ears or a revelation. I'm completely shocked. Well, you see when Trump was talking about how she's not really black, he wasn't just popping off. Trump is actually quite deliberate. He's not given a lot of credit for this. But I didn't like that talking point for him.

I didn't think it would be that effective on a personal level. But I knew why he was doing it for these reasons. I didn't either. Yeah. And I'm a Californian and I knew Conley Harris's record and a lot of it was locking up black people. That's a lot of what she did. And then she got to the Senate and then all of a sudden she tried to pivot. to be more of a civil rights person.

And there's an incidental nature to some of what she claimed is her cultural heritage. She grew up one of the richest neighborhoods in Montreal. She spent a lot of time in Berkeley, California, and she kind of acts like it was Oakland. But I went to Berkeley. I mean, it's a, it's a kind of a calm place for liberals to hang out. It's not the streets. And she tends to borrow some of this phony heritage that Trump never does any of that stuff. And it's a really stark contrast.

She's pretty much estranged from her dad. who's in Jamaica, and he's an economist, and she doesn't really have any street cred. And her acting as though the black vote is a guarantee, and Barack Obama acting like the black vote is a guarantee. It's very arrogant, and it's not adding up to reality right now. Well, it's not, I don't know if they're acting like it's a guarantee. I mean, Obama's heckering black men.

Like, you know, they had Spike Lee. Well, I'm sorry. Spike Lee was on television doing the same thing. Yeah, it was entitled. I should have said entitlement. They're acting like they're entitled to it. Like, hey, you guys are supposed to be with us. Yes.

Why aren't you with us? No, they're definitely not acting like, guarantee. Thank you for the correction. No, no, no. That's right. Entitled is exactly the right word. And they're upset that the entitlement doesn't seem to be, the entitlement check doesn't seem to be coming in, at least with black men.

Of course, that was a, um, right. At least a handful of black women in that clip on, on MSNBC. Okay. You guys at Breitbart do a lot of this stuff. Um, I'm sure, although it probably wouldn't be pitched to you guys. your ear is pretty close to the ground on stories being shopped around. So Mark Halpern, you know, who's broke a lot of news over his career, was on. I don't know where he was on when he said this, but we have the clip where he said there's a story,

Alex, being shopped around that is being essentially sold as would end Donald Trump's campaign. Listen to Mark Halpern. These last two weeks are going to be filled with things like this. and I can tell you without going into detail that I've been pitched a story about Donald Trump now for about a week that, if true, would end his campaign. And there's all sorts of things like that flying around.

I'm not the only one who's been pitched it. I'm going to talk about this a little bit more in detail later, Alex, but, well, first of all, I think anybody that believed that, not what Halpern had to say. Anybody that believes the story that comes out two weeks for an election that's a brand new revelation that could end Trump's campaign. You'd have to be not just a moron, a willing moron to believe that story. But are you hearing stuff like this, that there's a story out there?

Yeah, I am. Let me bring up a couple of points here. I really respect Mark Halperin a lot. I always notice he was pretty good in his MSNBC days, and then he got canceled for some sex harassment stuff. And he's been trying to rehab. His career has taken a long time. But he's always been incredibly smart.

views. And he nailed not just that Biden was going to drop out. A lot of people guessed Biden would drop out, but he got the exact date and time. So that got my attention. So clearly he's very well sourced and he's hearing things that are legit. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. That said, he is a media person and he knows that we're all going to be talking about this clip and wondering what he's got. What I'm hearing and I've got a lot of strategic sources through my work at Breitbart. I'm hearing it's a sex scandal. I'm hearing it some sort of new sex accuser. I have no idea if that's true. I have no idea if there's anything persuasive about it. I have no idea if it's just someone trying to make money or to distract so we don't talk

about the economy or immigration or crime or worse. But that's what I'm hearing. I have no idea if it's true at all or if it'll even see the light of day because maybe people see what you're seeing well. It seems like everyone's already going to vote it early. How much of a difference can make with two weeks to go? It could just ruin your own credibility. I can't. I can't. believe he's really got something solid that anyone will go with that will change the race. But again, if there's anyone who who might know their thing or two, it's Halper it seems like. Well, so, okay, it feels like 10 years into this, everything that could have been reported has been reported and stuff that never happened has been reported about Donald Trump.

So I just find it, and I totally respect what you said about what you're hearing and what's what we're talking about here that's what halpern's talking about it's talking about what you're hearing it's not a story it there's no reporting there's nothing to this yet but like i just why would it be now you know like if there were a thing and we're to presume there's some level of validity to it that will be reported out why would it be now and not at some point in the past 10 years i hear you on sex and maybe some new person steps forward but if they step forward now do you know how much forget sketching skepticism, Alex. How much cynicism I would have about that story?

Yeah, it's an old playbook that's not going to work. It's not going to work for a couple of reasons. I mean, we're post-Cavanaugh and all the absurd allegations against him and the Christine Blasey Ford absurdity that we all witnessed. So I think people are burned out on some of it. And then I also think that due to early voting, which Democrats institutionalize, they are the ones who institutionalize this. It means if you want to get your October surprise out, you better get it out in September, maybe August, or somewhere around the conventions. You can't get it out two weeks before the election if you're smart and it's less than two weeks now. So clearly there are holes in the story if there is a story at all.

And maybe it's just us trying to come up with any excuse to not talk about how bad things are going for normal Americans in America right now. All right. Really good. He's editor-in-chief at Breitbart News. By the way, he's also the author of Breaking Biden. you can check them out on X at Alex Marlowe. I really appreciate him being on the Will Cain show. Thank you, Alex. Thanks, Will. Appreciate you in all that you do.

Okay, take care, man. All right, I want to dig more into that, this Halpern thing, the October surprise, because there was a story that dropped today, suggesting that Donald Trump loves Hitler. Let's get into that, plus the South has risen. Next on the Will Cain show. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world.

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Killian Murphy. I think he's on... I think all three of those are on my secondary list of actors that I'd be very likely to watch what they are in, but not guaranteed.

It's the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. Coming up to just moments, I want to dive into this story about Donald Trump that was published in the Atlantic, the central figures in the story. The claims are, there's two claims from two different stories, that Donald Trump praised Hitler's generals, and that's according to his former, what is it, chief of staff, John Kelly, and secondarily that after having promised to pay for a funeral of a soldier killed,

when the bill came in, the report is Donald Trump said $60,000 to bury a Mexican. He's Mexican-American. So that's the claim. The people involved in the story, the victims, the soldiers' families say, it's all a lie. And they told the author. So we're going to get into that in just a moment. I'm going to dig in deep on this in just a moment here on the Will Kane show. Friend of the show, Lindyman.

What's his real name, Patrick? Paul Skellis, something like that. Yeah, Paul Scalas. He's been on the Will Kane show. Paul Scalas. He had an interesting... Back in the day. He had an interesting idea.

What is that? Before we became the Will Kane show, the Wilcane podcast? Yeah. Everybody knows what you meant by that. Yeah. It's there. No, before we went in video pictures on YouTube and Facebook. But a pretty interesting guy that always talks about sort of like things that have remained traditional, remain traditional is this main thing.

The Lindy effect. You know, if something stood the test of time. culturally and whatever it has value it's probably going to come back he had this thing that caught my attention last week the south will rise again in fact the south has risen again now when people hear that it's almost inflammatory because they're like oh civil war secede for the union it's not what he's talking culture it's not what he's talking about he's talking about that i don't know how old he is um and i can say this is true for me i don't think when I was growing up, the South was considered cool. Southern culture was not American culture.

In fact, when I was growing up, California culture was American culture. And what was cool was California. People aspired. I wanted to, and I did, go to college in California. And it had a magnetic draw. It was where like Hollywood and music and everything seemed to be happening in America. and whatever was happening in California was cool. And he pointed out back then, like there weren't that many, like, movies coming out of the south that painted it in a good light. You could argue smoking the bandit.

But even Southern music, again, if we go back to the 70s, you'd say Leonard Skinner, but country music wasn't national music. It wasn't something that people in New York City listened to. They just didn't. And what he points out is southern culture has taken over America in many, many ways. You can go, you know, to Long Island and people are listening to country music. You can go to Brooklyn and people are wearing cowboy boots. Not everybody, but people are

wearing cowboy boots. You can go to the Midwest suburbs of Chicago and, you know, you're going to, well, not again, country music, boots and jeans, the style, the, oh, I know something he said, whiskey and barbecue is everywhere it's like a thing to do now it's it's like smoke or grills smoke exactly this um and i think he's exactly right and i would also say and i don't have mentioned on the show the draw to the south has has been a downstream effect of this yes people moving there we know the population's moving to tennessee and texas south carolina has been a big beneficiary of the population growth, but also kids in where they choose colleges, from all over, from your neck of the woods, from the northeast, from California, where do they want to go now?

They want to go to Texas in some occasions, TCU, places like that, but they want to go to Georgia and Alabama, and they want to be part of the rah-rah, you know, college football culture, but that's part of southern culture. And I think he's exactly right. When it comes to social capital, the South has risen. I mean, the South is America. It's at the top of the food chain right now. I agree with country music, too.

I said it a few years ago, I saw the trend happening, and I said to my wife at the time, I was like, there's going to be a lot of pop artists that are going to go country. Because it was going in that direction. I thought Beyonce would. I thought Post Malone would. I thought Lana Del Rey would,

and they all kind of went that direction. Because it is cool. Like, it is pop music now. Like, the CMAs are almost, And that's relatively new, Dan. I saw a chart on country music popularity. Like, if you go back to 2016, it's really small. By 2024, it's huge.

It's like the biggest subcategory of music that people listen to everywhere you go. Cowboy boot sales went up insanely in the past two years. I'd love to know the stats on that. I know, we should look it up. I would love to know. And I would have to guess to Kovas is the big beneficiary. I love that. The online boot sales.

See, that tells me everything I need to. to know. Shut it. I have some, too. But when my Brooklyn hipster producer has Tukovas and says, I love them, I think we've figured it out. And James, you and I've talked about this. Don't you think that a lot of kids now from New Jersey and Pennsylvania, they're like,

I meet parents, like, oh, yeah, my kid goes to Alabama. Nobody went to Alabama except people from Alabama and maybe Georgia 15 years ago. It's so weird. I went to a Morgan Wallin concert with some father. box execs in New Jersey, met their friends or social. This blew my mind. A dad came up to me. He introduced me to his son because he was there. He goes, my son's going to Texas Tech. I said, what? From where do you live, New Jersey? You're going to Texas Tech? I'd have a hard time selling a Dallas kid on going to Texas Tech. And I love tech, by the way. Love it. But it's not

exactly a national draw. Yeah. But this is what's cool. now to go down to these places like Tech and Bama and Georgia. I saw it in my own hometown. It used to be kids would never go to southern schools and I went to a very small, small southern school, 2,000 kids and

in my hometown from just Rye High School alone there was five kids in my year to go to it. And I'll get asked too, people were like how did you end up there from Rye? And it's like, no, there's a lot of northeastern kids there now. I have an update on the cowboy boot sales. So this

This is back in April when Beyonce's Western album came out. They saw boot sales jump up more than 20% week over week since Cowboy Carter launched. And Levi's sales up 24% back in April. Wow. Fascinating. Is it a fad? Does it come and go? Is this gone in five years?

Yep. Okay, let me make one counter-argument. It's the new NASCAR. Here, let me make one counter-argument, okay? Part of the rise of this is what we talk about in the show a lot. It's male culture. Southern culture is pretty male, right? Like you said, smokers and whiskey and barbecue,

brisket and boots and jeans. And country music is probably, I don't know, it might be primarily female audience. But the Lindyman says this article, the masculine stereotype cultural stereotype of the north doesn't exist he kind of listed some things beyond like sports gambling so like let's say you're here's what i'd say let's say you're you're a dude from chicago right you're a dude we all know what that means how what does a dude from chicago like how do you identify him what is he lean into what is his

cultural thing that distinguishes him from everybody else. Do you know what I mean? A ball cap? He goes to University of Wisconsin, probably. He goes to a lot of Cubs games with his buddies. What does he listen to?

He might listen to. What does he listen to? I think he listens to hip-hop. I think Chicago's hip-hop still. I think hip-hop's gone down, especially among young men. I don't know. It could be as you get older thing and you actually start to listen to some of the words,

and you're like, I don't know about that. So if he's listened to Morgan Wallen, that is Southern culture dominating that. That's pop music. So what's uniquely, I get you, I hear you, but what is uniquely northern or Midwestern that you'd say that's bros from that culture have that could reassert itself in the next wave of fads? Golf. A lot of golf. Look at you. I'm not sure that's northern, though.

Well, we're known as a country club part of the country. Yeah, we don't know anything about the Midwest. James is a 25-year-old guy. He's a bro. He's from Westchester. And he's over there, and he's at work right now. And I only ever see him at work, but he wears loafers and sweaters. And it's your work attire.

He's wearing a player's championship. It is. Sure. Which is southern. That's Florida. So, like, if your side of the cultural aisle ends up winning at some point, and the southern thing is a fad, does that mean, like, in five years, everybody's dressing, like, country club preppies? And that's the next wave of, like, I don't know. I think so.

No, that's tough to say, too, because I think the color scheme I used to wear, as I went to school in the South was a little, like, lighter in Pestelli. And I remember some girl in the first day was like, you look like you dressed from the South. And I was like, oh, really? What about the pop collar, you know, polo Ralph Lauren look? That's a little too much for me. That's like the fake old money look. That had like a year. The sweater around your shoulders.

There was just like years long trend and it just died out. It was the what do you call it like the old money? Yeah, the Gatsby. Old money aesthetic. Yeah. And it took off and people were like, this is fake, done. Well, what it says to me is I don't know if it's a fad. I don't know.

The South has risen and I'm not sure it's going anywhere anytime soon. Real quick, James. The only thing on that is it become a fat, and kids go to school in the South is I think some northern kids might find, like, maybe they like things about Southern culture, but like, are they ever truly going to fit in and, like, become one with those communities? Are they going to struggle with, no, wait, I grew up in the North. Like, how do I ingratiate with Dallas communities? No, that's right. That would be a thing. But they're going to go home and say, guys, have you heard the new Morgan Wallen?

and that's what they're going to do and it's the export of southern culture and I don't know it's going anywhere anytime soon the South has risen all right the October surprise may have dropped this morning

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drop this morning. Is it? Donald Trump's a fascist and loves Hitler part 12. It's the Will Cain show, streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. About a week ago, journalist Matt Taibi was here on the Will Cain show and we were talking about what bullet is left to fire, figuratively and literally, what's left to stop Donald Trump? And I made a prediction then. Here was what I had to say a little over a week ago. What's left? to try to stop Donald Trump. And I don't know the answer to that, Matt, and we're 21 days out. My suspicion is it's something involving the media, meaning it's either we're going to see

some egregious censorship of a story that you should know about involving Kamala Harris or Tim Walts that you won't get to know about, or a manufactured story about Donald Trump that isn't vetted, is poor reporting, will be shoved out there into everyone's consciousness before it can be fact-checked and rebutted. That's my suspicion of what we'll see in the next 21 days. days it's the only bullet left to fire it's the media yeah i think that's probably right because they've done everything else i mean they've they've they've done he's going to be a fascist and that seems to have at least if not come true on the verge of coming true today because

as we mentioned a little bit earlier in the show journalist mark halpern said there's a story being shopped around that would quote unquote end don't trump's campaign watch these last two weeks are going to be filled with things like this. And I can tell you without going into detail that I've been pitched a story about Donald Trump now for about a week, that if true, would end his campaign. And there's all sorts of things like that flying right. I'm not the only one who's been pitched it. Now, Breitbart's Alex Marlowe was just here on the Will Cain Show, and he said he's heard about this story as well, and he has heard that it's about sex. And another accuser or a story, a scandalous story about sex. Mark Halpern has since gone on other programs

said, I want to clarify something. I don't believe the story is true. That's why I'm not reporting it. I'm only telling you that a story is being pitched and run out there. Well, if it's not this potential story that Mark Halper and Alex Marlowe are hearing about, it might have been the story that was uploaded this morning to the Atlantic by Jeffrey Goldberg. In it, this story claimed that Donald Trump praised Hitler's generals and said, I need generals like Hitler. That according to his former head staffer, John Kelly. Kelly says he heard Trump saying things like this.

He went on to say as well that Trump offered to console and pay for a fallen soldier's family's funeral, Latino, Mexican American. When the bill came due, the story says Trump goes $60,000 to bury a Mexican, and wouldn't pay. Pretty damaging stuff, a pretty scandalous stuff. If it were true, since that story coming out from the Atlantic,

literally, this is according to Greg Price, it puts this together, not a single person mentioned the story is saying it's true. The soldier's sister, the family's lawyer, Mark Meadows,

and other former Trump staffers who were there. And they all have gone on and posted on social media that they told Jeffrey Goldberg, the story is not true. They were contacted, they were discussed, and they said, this is a lie.

This is a damning story, but it's a damning story for the Atlantic. For every principle involved in this story to tell you this is not true, indicts not your ability to report, but your interest in reporting the truth. And what I said there was Matt Taiy, was there will be some fake stories shoved out there into everyone's consciousness with not

enough time to rebut. This, by the way, has been paired with John Kelly fleshing out his beliefs that Donald Trump is a wannabe Hitler would be fascist. Listen to John Kelly. Do you think he's a fascist? Well, I'm looking at the definition of fascism. It's a far-right authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, political ideology, and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized hypocrisy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy. So certainly, in my experience, those are the kinds of things that he thinks will work better in terms of running America. The former president is in the far-right area.

He's certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators. He has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of a fascist, for sure. Some have pointed out since that time, I believe that John Kelly is one of the longest serving cabinet members of Donald Trump. And if this is all true, why now? Why don't you say something when it was happening?

Why did you not? The minute you think it's so scandalous that he said the things that you say, he said, why did you continue to serve? By the way, you hear in that clip, he says, reading from the definition of fascism or looking at it, I stumbled upon this because I just looked it up, And I realized, he's reading from Wikipedia. I'm going to read you the first lines of Wikipedia on fascism.

A far-right authoritarian, ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, enforceable suppression of opposition. Belief in a natural social hierarchy. That's word for word what Kelly did to describe to define fascism. Now, if you're going to learn about what fascism,

is from Wikipedia, you should maybe read beyond the first line. Because as you go down in the article, it's pretty fascinating. There's a quote here in there. It says trying to define fascism is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. Fascism has been basically a pejorative hurled at any form of government that you do not like. There are certain characteristics that have been common to fascist regimes. Most people like to look to Adolf Hitler and national socialism is the best example of fascism. Well, if that's the case, then we need to understand that was a socialist movement, a national socialist movement, hard to describe by any modern conception how it is far right. The most common example of fascism is actually Benito Mussolini in Italy, but again, to accept

the fascism. See, I reject the entire idea of fascism on one side and communism on another. It only makes sense if we're forced to believe in this ideological spectrum from left to right. And it's just not the way it is. And I think all of us are understanding that. I think we're beginning to understand that. A political ideology if it can be put on a spectrum is one that is actually shaped as a circle. And fascism and communism are both side by side. Take your two into the spectrum, fold them up into a circle, and they meet at the top under the authoritarian wing.

Who cares if it's far left or far right? what's the difference it's an authoritarian ideology in fascism's case but i would also argue in communism's case centered around the idea of nationalism the soviet union a nationalistic idea designed to help at least in words the proletariat often expansive in foreign wars yes and yes and now i ask you to apply that to donald trump interest or less interest in foreign wars in the current sitting president Ukraine talking about what to do right now with Iran how to deal with Israel

have foreign wars expanded or decreased since Donald Trump left office is that the type of characteristic you envision when you think of a fascist what about centralizing authority well Donald Trump was present for four years how did he centralize authority most of the platform is an idea of

a more efficient federal bureaucracy and for example when it comes to roe v way taking powers out of the hands of the federal government be it the legislature or the supreme court and turning them back over to the states that's not what a fascist would do um what about this persecution of your political opponents now everybody points to the rhetoric of donald trump what do you do in four years versus what we know about the department of justice going after their political opponents both political figures and the common person who have fallen outside the lines of what is acceptable. And just today, as a reminder, the sitting president, not a candidate president, which I would argue is very different. Candidate Trump lock up Hillary Clinton.

Sitting president, Joe Biden, saying lock up Donald Trump. Listen. This is a guy who also wants to replace every civil servant, every single one, thinks he has a right of the Supreme Court ruling on immunity. to be able, if need be, if it was the case, to actually eliminate, physically eliminate, shoot, kill someone who is a, he believes to be the threat to. I mean, so I know this sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said this five years ago, you'd lock me up. We've got to lock him up. Forget the misinformation for a minute. Physically eliminate, shoot, kill. those is standing in his way like what kind of hyperbole is that

I mean this this stuff you got to give it hours before it ratchets up that's all it takes we went from though he's going to use the National Guard to lock up his opponents to shoot, kill his opponents I mean this is insanity and then his conclusion is lock him up

projection okay understand the power of projection accuse those of the sins you are guilty I ask you who's guilty of not just wanting to be but making positive steps towards executing

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