Will Cain Country - Big Night for Radical Socialists—Pay Attention to What Comes Next (ft. Steve Hilton, Tim Young, & Karol Markowicz)
Episode Date: June 24, 2026As California grapples with the highest cost of living, steep regulatory burdens, and an unprecedented exodus of local businesses, the foundational blueprint of the state faces total structural collap...se. Republican Candidate for Governor Steve Hilton sits down with Will to break down his optimistic, pragmatic campaign to pull the Golden State out of its "Democrat doom loop." Plus, Will and The Crew are joined by 'New York Post' Columnist Karol Markowicz and Comedian Tim Young to breakdown a shocking progressive socialist wave in the New York City primaries. They analyze how radical "Red-Green Alliance" candidates are weaponizing anti-Israel rhetoric to shift the Overton window, examine corporate media attempts to bully comedian Nate Bargatze, and blast Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson's fictional "transfemicide" emergency declaration. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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The next governor
of California, Steve Hilton,
Tim Young and Carol Markowitz.
You want to sit?
You want to stand?
What do you want to do?
Make yourself comfortable.
Because socialists have taken over New York City.
It's so great.
I love, then.
You're doing so.
It's such a great show.
If I don't know if I catch it at weird times.
I don't know exactly how,
because it's usually now, I don't know.
Anyway, I see it often, actually.
Good.
This is Wilcane Country.
Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel,
the Wilcane Facebook page.
Always here at Spotify and Apple.
We're just jumping right in with
Republican candidate for governor of the state of California.
Steve Hilton.
I love the way you greeted me.
Come on, then.
I know.
We've still got those English habits.
You have these little phrases that I love, like, isn't it?
You know, which I think is sort of a London thing.
Right, exactly.
To throw.
I'm basically at London person, exactly.
Yes.
Come on, then.
And then I'm hearing a lot of it because of the World Cup.
Which is great.
By the way, that is one of the most beautiful things.
That now we're seeing all these.
people from especially England showing exactly the same way I fell in love with America.
Yeah. It's so great. It's wonderful to see.
The scales fall from their eyes. Yeah. Right? Whatever they're told by the media
England, whatever they've learned growing up through education. Then they come here and they're
like, this is not what I was told. Where's ice? I thought ice was hauling people off in front
of me, you know, and Donald Trump's a fascist. And they come here and they're like, look at this
stadium. It's 100,000 people.
And everybody's so nice.
And the thing that's really interesting, there's a big part of it, which is actually the sort of incredible scale of our economic lead over the rest of the world.
That's the thing that I think is a really big part of it.
And there's stuff that's easy to mock, oh, our consumer culture and all the rest of it.
That is our economy to a large part.
And it reminds me of something that was pointed out actually by someone over on CNN that there's this after Brexit,
and the UK leaving the EU, there's this chatter about, well, maybe the UK should become the 51st state and join back to America or something like that.
And then someone did the math, and they worked out that if that happened and the UK joined the USA, if you measure it on income per head of population, the UK would be the 51st.
No.
The poorest, it would be the poorest state. Lower the Mississippi.
Well, it would be the poorest state in America.
Come on.
Yes.
Come on.
Exactly.
Come on, men.
Steve, that could...
I was excited to see you, by the way.
Can we just say that?
Because we've sort of known each other, as it were, you know, we were colleagues at Fox, but I think we've never met in person.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
That's the first time you hugged me, which I really appreciate it.
That's not a very English thing to do.
I know you're American.
Well, I'm also...
Wait.
Right.
Aren't you standoffish?
The English, like the cultural, it's like, oh, you know, a little bit stiff.
I'm Hungarian.
Okay.
Is that a big huggy culture?
Well, yeah.
Yeah, both my parents are Hungarian.
My whole family's my stepfather.
Everyone's Hungarian.
Okay.
So I'm, you know...
Am I right in my diagnosis of sort of English culture?
Like, it's guarded.
I think that's maybe outdated.
Really?
Yeah.
Honestly.
Yeah.
Hey, let's go back to the economic thing for a minute because I want to quantify that.
Yes.
Because surely, I think what comes to America in the form of English culture, and we're here to talk about California and we're going to.
But is maybe the one percent?
of British culture.
Like, the 1% live well.
They live like we do in America, right?
Yeah.
And London, especially London as well, the UK's a way more imbalanced economy and country than Americans.
So the amazing thing about America, and that's really striking when you come, like most of the last year,
I've been sort of grinding it out on the road in California.
So I've seen all of California.
We'll get to that in a second.
And even that's incredible.
When you travel around California and you see the amazing,
economic centers, not just the Bay Area for tech and LA for entertainment, although that's a whole
different story of decline, but right across the state of California, agriculture, San Diego,
and everywhere you go, amazing just centers of economic wealth and opportunity. Then you just come to
here to Texas, and you see what's happening here in Dallas, and then we're heading to Houston,
and you see that's another massive economic center, and then you think about America, and everywhere you go in
this country. In the way people live. Because it's so big, and that's the, I think about it's a lot
right now in relation to the 250th anniversary and why that is, because of the genius of that,
of those ideas, the decentralization of power, the fact that you can have different ways
of doing things captured in different parts of the country. In England, it's not like that
at all. Everything is London. It's totally dominant. So if you're doing well and you live in, it's
the center of everything, business, media, finance, everything.
is London, very centralized.
And so you can go to London
and sort of walk around the center of London,
I think this is a very affluent place.
But then you go outside.
Of course you've got the beautiful countryside.
That's true.
But there's a real, you know, serious,
sort of level of income that is just way behind anything we have.
And I'm not talking about the poverty.
You're not talking about like the working class.
Just regular people, just regular life.
And so that is the statistic.
if you just do the simple math size of the economy divided by the number of people.
Right.
It works out that the UK would be the 51st state.
If I, Steve, and I'm going somewhere with this, and it's not that we're talking about England,
but it's tied to America.
It's tied to California.
It's tied to New York.
I have friends who have moved to America from the UK.
They're not Americans.
They are not Americans now.
One of the things they describe that is a major difference is a cultural openness to possibility.
So, in other words, you can.
do whatever you want. Yes. Where the culture in the UK is more like, that's not really your lane.
Oh. That's not where you come from. That's not your possibility. And let me put that.
Could I run for public office as an American in the UK and meet any sense of success?
I can't think of an example of anyone who's done it and I can't imagine it happening. I really
can't. It's even very small number. It's even hard to think of people, never mind running for office,
who've had sort of roles, you know, serious roles in the media.
I mean, you think about all the people who've made, you know, like,
and even in our, you know, where I used to be your colleague at Fox.
You, peers.
And you've got a American version of that.
Not really.
And it is that very simple line, you know, about America.
Anyone from anywhere can be anything.
Yeah.
And that's really true.
And that sense of possibility, by the way, I really noticed it when we first,
I used to tell this.
So I've stopped thinking about this, actually.
but we moved in 2012.
I had this big job when we moved in the UK.
We were senior advisors to the Prime Minister in London.
You know, you're sort of a big deal
because everything is centralized there.
You're at the heart of power.
Moved to Silicon Valley because my wife was then at Google
and that's the reason we moved from when our second son was born.
It was all a bit much, you know, the travel and whatever for her.
And so I was teaching at Stanford
and just starting to get into the culture there.
And it was just incredible, the openness, exactly what you're talking about.
And that sense of, I used to explain it like this, that you would say,
you'd meet someone at a social event.
And always the question would be not like, what do you do?
Or it was like, what are you working on?
Right.
That was the thing.
Right.
Everyone's always like, what are you working on?
And then you say something, oh, my friend, Jim would be really interested in that.
I'll connect you.
Right.
And then they do connect you.
And then Jim reply, oh, let's get together for coffee, like next week.
Right.
And suddenly that could be your co-finding.
founder for a new startup. In London, it would be, the equivalent would be, oh, I'll have my assistant
maybe set something up and then three months and nothing happens. And it's just that it's a
completely different culture. Right. So balance this for me. Why would I meet so many barriers,
but so many other children or perhaps even the migrants who have made their way to the UK in
the past, what, 10, 15, 20 years? What's the time frame on the mass migration?
Well, it's longer than, I mean, Tony Blair really started it.
So that goes back.
Yeah, so actually more like 25.
So there's been a huge ascendancy of them in the political world of the UK.
And I know that's population-based.
So there's a constituency, right?
There's a constituency for a Muslim mayor of London.
There's not a constituency for an American member of parliament.
I think that's basically right.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah, I haven't thought of it like that.
But the idea of, that's exactly right.
It just feels very difficult to imagine that happening.
So now look at how.
happening in New York, Steve? Like, look at this. We've had three, two DSA candidates, one far-left
candidate and Bradlander who just took down Dan Goldman. And it's New York City. Now, we can
diagnose it, and we should. There's a huge foreign-born population that does vote this way.
I saw a stat from Stephen Miller this morning that 50% of New York, English is not the primary
language. 50. 50. Wow. And 25% is not proficient in English. So that's a big bait. But it's also
the white liberal college-educated voters who are embracing socialism. And if it happens in New York,
I don't think we can easily look at it and go, that's just New York. Yeah. It exports.
Well, it definitely. I mean, it's just same with California. Look at LA. What's ended up there.
You've got the choice of a complete incompetent mayor that's extraordinary that this person
could be re-elected after what happened with the fires. But the competition is now a socialist.
Same kind of crew, Nitha Rahman. And so, I mean, honestly, Javier Bacera, your opponent,
What's the difference? He doesn't have the label. The policies are in the same vein.
But the thing that's so interesting, especially New York and California, the best examples, worst examples, where the reason that you've got the rise of these kind of people is in response to really bad conditions for a lot of the people who are voting for them.
We can't afford anything. Everything's so expensive, the rent, all this. Why? Because of the policies that their party has already pursued.
And now they want more.
It's really interesting how, to me in California, I think I call it the Democrat doom loop,
where their policies make everything more expensive.
Right.
And then they see that and say, wow, everything's so expensive.
We've got to help people.
What are we going to do?
Raise the minimum wage.
What does that do?
Make everything even more expensive.
Right now in L.A., they're talking about a $30 minimum wage for hotel workers and so on.
I think Pierre St. Ange was on my show that day, and he said,
Think about the buses, housing, medical care.
These are the things the government's involved in.
They're too expensive.
Exactly.
And so the answer is more government?
More government.
It's just amazing how that realization hasn't dropped yet.
Well, maybe we should go in a different direction.
Maybe more in the same direction is going to make it even worse, which is always the way it happens.
And all these things that they, and whether it's raising the minimum wage, a good example,
or well-will, more welfare payments to make.
make up for the fact that everything's so expensive. Well, where does that come from?
Higher taxes, which make everything more expensive and drive out business.
There's fewer jobs, and that's a major issue now in California.
We have the highest unemployment rate in America.
And so it's the complete failure of that model.
It is amazing.
I guess one part of the story is that you haven't had a really compelling presentation of the argument against that
in those races, in those levels.
I mean, on the Republican side, who was making the argument?
I hope you find ears open to the argument.
Well, I mean, now let's talk about California.
I hope you find open ears to that.
Look, not betraying confidence.
You met with a friend of mine here in Dallas.
This friend runs a big company.
Moved it here from California.
That's not an isolated incident.
There's so many.
And actually, I've been running now, so we're talking June.
it was like end of April when I launched my campaign, so a year and a bit.
And almost every day, almost every day, a business leader, or it could be a small business owner.
A restaurant owner says the same thing. If you don't win, we're out.
I went to Sacramento last week, and I did a press conference there with this very specific warning
that this exodus of businesses will be a stampede if we're not careful.
They're just hanging on in the hope that maybe we can put some kind of check on the insanity that is just, we have the highest regulatory burden, the highest taxes.
And now you have, there's a kind of dam that's burst.
There was this sense previously, where you've got to be in California, everyone's in California, the sort of cluster argument.
And then, of course, we've got lots of great advantages.
It's an amazing place to be.
The beautiful weather.
Of course, we love California.
But it's so hard now.
All those reasons they're staying are just now outweighed by the absolute nightmare cost.
I went to college there.
People always asked me that.
And you've got to go in a second.
You've got to catch a flight.
We're driving.
Houston?
Yeah.
You got a little wiggle room.
Are we?
Are we driving?
Oh, that's wiggle room.
I'll get you.
Now, when I went to college, people, I went to Pepperdine in Southern California.
Great school.
But people would always say, like, you know what brought you to Pepperin?
I said, well, look, in the 90s.
everyone wanted to be in California.
It's where it was happening.
Not just music and movies, but culture.
It just had a sense of now I see the opposite.
I know so many California kids going to TCU, SMU, Baylor.
I'm going to California this weekend.
I'm excited for vacation.
My family and I were going to go a beautiful area of California.
And you drive around, you're like,
it's impossible to reconcile how this state with so many things going for it is losing.
That's right.
Why would it?
I mean, Farid Zikari,
CNN did this piece that got a lot of attention a couple of weekends ago on his show on Sunday
on CNN and he did his opening monologue and he just went through the data it could have been
from one of my speeches and and and he described it as this is a quote a failed model of
governance it's exactly what it is you've got now the highest taxes in the country for literally
the worst results on everything I mean just talk about we're dry okay we're driving to
Houston I met a lady who runs a contracting company they do public works so every time
I talk about cutting the gas tax. We have the highest gas prices in the country, even though we have abundant oil reserves. Right.
Higher than Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, insane. One of the reasons is the gas tax, all these costs.
Havier, but Sarah, my opponent, every time I say we're going to cut gas, well, how are we going to pay for the roads?
Well, let's look at how we pay for the roads. This lady who builds roads, literally, that's their business all over the country. She says it costs four times as much to build the exact same piece of road in California as it does in Texas.
And Texas has better roads.
Our roads are ranked 50th out of 50 states, just like almost everything else.
It's just unbelievable how bad it is.
And so the fact that, so Farid put this number out there.
During Gavin Newsom's tenure as governor in the last 770 bit years,
1.9 million people on that leaving California.
Nearly two many people.
Ultimate diving.
Exactly.
Why would anyone leave?
Such a beautiful, amazing place.
It's because we make it so highest, housing costs highest.
everything the most expensive, highest cost of living.
The regulatory burden is, I used to run restaurants.
I mean, I don't know how anyone does it in California.
And it's not just the regulations, there's a really big part of it.
And I just want to get to this because it's an important explanation of how we've got there.
Is the litigation.
That is not discussed enough.
But talk about taxes, that's very obvious.
Regulations, red tape, bloat, yeah, we get it.
Lawsuits are just crippling.
California. 90% of businesses that start in California are going to face a lawsuit of some
kind. 50% have one going on right now. There's something called PAGA, stands for Private
Attorney General Act. It was passed in 2004. It means that anyone can file a lawsuit to enforce
state labor law as if they're the attorney general. It's a goal, it's for, it's complete extortion
for trial lawyers who are just running rampant. It's basically a cost of doing business. You're going
be paying out these settlements. If you're a small local restaurant, 65 grand, 100 grand, sometimes
you might get three of them a year. It's just impossible. Why is it happening? Because trial lawyers
are now the second biggest donors to Democrat politicians. It's a corrupt system that they've built,
that they benefit from. If you think about the drivers of all this insanity in California,
the underlying structural reasons, it's all driven by the interest that benefit from them. The government
unions that get favors in exchange for their support for Democrat politicians, the trial lawyers,
the climate activists. That's what's driving it. It's a very narrow group who get what they want
through the machine in Sacramento and everyone else loses out. I want to let you hit the road to
Houston. I do. I do want to ask, so, okay, I want you to find open ears. By the way, 20 minutes is a
really short Wilcane country interview. Really short. I hope you find open ears for this.
So here's what I looked up just before we came on.
It's not to, I just want to know how is it going.
Kalshi has Javier Bresera, 90%.
Yeah.
And then did I have another poll, you know, whatever.
I'm as skeptical as polls as anybody else, right?
This is 270 to win.
And this is from mid-June, mid-June.
It's about a 20, 25-point difference right now, you and Javier Bacera.
Yeah, that's totally.
All of that is exactly.
exactly how it's gone the last 20 years.
It's been a long time since there's been a Republican governor.
And it's become this one-party rule.
And they've got a super majority in the legislature,
and they control all the statewide offices,
every big city, every big county.
And that's why it's gone like this,
because there's no, like we talk about America
and what's great about America,
one of the reasons that we've continued to be so successful for so long
is that other deep idea,
which is checks and balances.
You don't let anything get to the extreme
because it always ends in disaster when you do that.
You look around the world and in history.
When things are taken to the extreme, it ends badly.
In America we have checks and balances,
but in California we haven't.
And so this machine has been built up.
There's this expectation they're going to win.
That's why Berseris basically,
I don't know where he is.
He hasn't been seen since Election Day,
whereas I'm out there pounding every day
because they assume that it's,
going to be like it's gone before. But here's the reasons I'm optimistic. If you just get behind
those basic numbers, which really has been a 60-40 state for 20 years. Right. And Democrats'
favor. Here's a couple of other numbers. Every poll now differently from the last governor's
race four years ago shows that there's a majority of people who think the state's going in the
wrong direction and needs change. So that's the best indicator of a change election, that what they
call the wrong track number. Right. And four years ago, it was.
was mid to high 40s, saying percent, saying the wrong direction. Now that's mid to high 50s.
The last one I saw, 57%. There's one I saw 66% think that California's governance needs a
complete overhaul. So there's a majority for change. So in terms of open ears, this is not
an uphill struggle to persuade people we need to change. The second point is that actually it is
more of a Republican state than people think. In terms of getting people to show.
up and vote, that's the challenge. If you look at the numbers of votes that you would need
to win in this midterm year, you take the average of the last two midterms, that's 2018 and
2022, to get a projected turnout in California this year, it's 11.7 million votes total. So to win,
you'd need for 5.9 million is the number. This primary was a bit of a higher turnout than
we expected, to call it 6 million. The President got 6.1 million votes in California in
in 2024. So the votes are there, but obviously so many people don't vote in a midterm who
vote in the presidential. But actually, there is a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a,
there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a,
voted Republican, even without persuading Democrats and independence. And so we've got
things on the, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a question of showing that if we all show up and vote, we can
get the change. Part of it, part of it, part of my job is to, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a it's a
give that sense of energy and optimism that's been missing.
Well, you have a...
Because people have just assumed it's going to go the Democrats way.
You have an optimistic message.
And there's...
Well, I bet there's another thing, very important.
We talk a lot about the Save America Act, all of that.
In California, in November, in the election, voter ID is on the ballot.
There's a ballot initiative that's qualified for voter ID.
That's really popular.
Right.
That's going to help get the turnout.
So, but the bottom line is, I think there's a logic.
to certain elections.
When you look around the world and I've been involved in some of them,
people tend to get to the right result.
Not always, but often.
It's so obvious we need change in California.
It's so obvious.
And a majority of Californians think that.
And they're putting up a candidate
who's the living embodiment of more of the same.
He's 36 years, a career politician in the Democrat machine,
done nothing else.
and he was asked on CNN just the other week
that question that Carmelah Harris
completely blew up her presidential campaign on the view
when he said, is there anything you'd have done differently?
Do you remember?
Oh, nothing comes to mind.
Basically, Berserra gave the same answer.
He was asked, the CNN guy says,
we have the highest poverty rate in America,
highest unemployment rate, highest cost of living.
Things aren't going well.
Is there anything you would change?
Do you know what he said?
Well, we still have a lot of people going to Disneyland,
So it can't all be bad.
This guy is just not got the capacity to offer California the change that we need of people want.
This will be a referendum, not on you, Steve.
This will be a referendum.
I'm telling you on the people of California, 80% of the people I know in California are actually Republican.
Javier Bocera is ultimately uninspiring in every single possible way.
You have an optimistic message that I think everyone has heard here today.
It's whether or not the people of California are ready to keep circling the draft.
or not. Yeah, but the other point I just finally make is it's such as optimistic, it's very pragmatic.
Yeah. I'm not an ideologue. I don't want to tell people how to live. That's why I love California
because it's the home for me, ultimate home of freedom and do your own thing and that kind of rebel spirit,
which is why we've created so much amazing, you know, innovation and things that have changed the world,
whether that's Hollywood or tech or whatever it is. Because we're California and we just,
And that's the spirit that's being crushed by this kind of bloated and any state bureaucracy.
And so the simple point is, I want to tell you what to do.
I just want you to live your life and simple practical things.
$3 gas, cut your electric bills in half, your first $150,000 tax-free,
starter homes for young families, so you have to move to another state to own your own home, like practical things.
I think that's going to really overcome all this.
I understand why the betting markets are saying that.
they haven't seen my campaign yet.
A lot of people just did, and they will throughout
the next couple of months as you
hit the road in California.
I got to let you go because your team is going to get mad
at me. You're 10 minutes over now. It's really good to see
in person. Oh, it's fantastic. California needs you, Steve.
They need you. Thank you very much. Shouldn't be a want thing.
They need you. Thanks, Steve. Great to be with thanks, man.
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Joining us now, comedian Tim Young, Heritage Foundation.
What are you, a fellow?
You're a fellow.
That's a, you know, it makes me sound like more qualified than what I am.
I said I'd use Steve Hilton's earpiece, but your producers didn't want that to happen.
I said it was dirty.
I wouldn't.
It's not about it.
I just thought I could get like that, that like gubernatorial rub, you know?
Just bring more legitimacy.
Using someone else's earpiece is not.
Heritage Fellow wore Steve Hilton's earpiece.
That's right.
I could be, I mean, I didn't.
But you didn't.
I didn't.
It's clean.
Pat, Dan, do we have Carol Markowitz as well?
New York Post columnist, host of the Carol Markowitz show.
Oh, all right.
Let's bring up Carol as well.
Hey, Carol.
Glad to have you both here.
Let's just continue this for just one moment.
These three, I think it's fair to say three.
Okay, two and a half socialists that all mom-doney-backed.
How about that?
Three mom-doney-backed candidates in New York, one.
Let's talk about why, just a,
minute. I just said it to Steve and I've been reading Carol some of this stuff in the exit
polling. These three people, and by the way, let's talk about this. Two of them have said
some really, really outlandish things. I mean, like way out there. We're not talking about like
genteel socialism, if that exists. We're talking about I wipe my hands on the American flag type
stuff. That's almost a direct quote. I think that's from Chevalier, who sounds like a Haitian
dictator chivalier or or some sort of nice bottled water yeah either one i was thinking
the exit polling says this is who this is who voted for these candidates not poor black and
Latino new yorkers in the bronx it was rich white college educated liberals and foreign born voters
That's who just took New York down the path to socialism, Carol.
Yeah, you know, Dave Marcus is on your show a lot,
and he's been pointing out that the black vote in places like New York City
is being replaced by this white communist and Muslim alliance.
And that's what we're seeing happen.
It's scary to watch because the three that won.
And, you know, not that I thought Dan Goldman wasn't really a socialist, too.
He kind of was, right?
I mean, him and Bradlander don't have that many differences in policies.
Their only difference is one went a little harder against Israel than the other one.
But they're virtually the same.
It's heading down a really bad path.
And I know you and I will root for New York from afar, but it's not going that great over there.
The key that I believe, let's talk about the, she brought up red green alliance.
Okay, there is a red green alliance.
is a Muslim socialist alliance.
And the only tie that binds.
And it's obvious in these candidates' rhetoric.
Here, let me show you something, Tim.
This is Dara Liza Avila Chivalier.
I want a class act.
Yeah, she wrote on X,
I forgot to get napkins,
so I just wiped my hand on the American flag behind me.
The tie that is binding these candidates, this alliance,
this voting constituencies,
I know it can sound partisan if you're listening.
And I know there are several, there are a lot of people in our audience who are on the left.
Really, the only tie that binds is a hatred of America.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's a hatred of America.
And then a lot of these rich white people, it's like white knighting.
They believe that they can save things because they hate Trump.
So voting against him does something for the minority communities.
It's the same thing.
It's the same group of folks who don't believe that African Americans know how to use computers or get voter IDs too.
They think it's up to them to save the world for these people and they are ruining things.
So Chivalier, Carol, you may know what this is as a founder of C-U-A-D.
I don't know what that acronym is, C-U-A-D.
And the organization stated intentions are to undermine and eradicate America
through the use of violence in America.
I can read directly from their mission statement.
Here is the part that is highlighted.
Devastment is not an incremental goal.
True divestment necessitates nothing short of a total collapse of the university structure and the American Empire itself.
To divest is to undermine and eradicate America as we know it.
We act in full support of the Palestinian resistance and to translate their resistance in Gaza to unrest and violence in America.
This is the Congress of the United States.
By the way, she won the primary.
She's going to win the general in New York.
Oh, yeah. It's the Columbia University apartheid divest.
Okay.
And they are, they say they're a continuation of the anti-Vietnam War.
So it's the same funded group that's been around since the Vietnam War, basically.
Except manifesting in those anti-Israel protests at University at Columbia.
Yes.
Carol.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, the issue is never the issue, right?
The issue is revolution.
And that's what they're up to here.
I think that it's the same exact playbook that we've seen from communists all across the world in the last hundred.
plus years. Nothing's really changed. They're only using specific wedge issues to divide people.
Like I mentioned that the Goldman and Lander didn't have that many differences. And so what happens
is you get the slightly further left guy in. And what does Brad Lander think is going to happen
to him in two to four years? They're going to come for him. It's going to be somebody even further
left than him. They're going to keep moving the Overton window further left. And they're going to
get rid of guys like Langer who are just not going to be left enough.
So I want to have this conversation, Carol, and you're one of the people I feel like I can
have this conversation with. Okay, first, you brought it up a moment ago. I read an analysis
this morning. What differentiated Dan Goldman from Brad Lander? What differential his candidates?
The candidates that were the most anti-Israel won. And it's becoming quite clearly the big
biggest issue. Let's start with among Democrats. The biggest issue. If you want to win a primary,
if you want to win the base, you are going to have to be in the race the most anti-Israel Democrat.
Look, I'm a Jewish conservative. I've been pointing this out to my Democrat friends for the
better part of a decade. This didn't happen overnight. This didn't happen since October 7th.
I'll tell you, we quit our synagogue in Brooklyn in 2019 because they weren't taking the issue
of leftist anti-Semitism seriously.
And so this isn't new.
This isn't overnight.
And the fact is that Democrats,
including so many Democratic Jews,
let it get to this place.
And they say it's about Israel,
but look,
it's not actually about Israel, right?
Like we talked about,
the two candidates are so super similar.
Lander referred to himself as a Zionist recently.
Like, this isn't actually about Israel.
It's about the Jewish place
of the Democratic Party.
And Black voters are looking at what the Jews.
are going through and being like, that's going to be us soon.
Is Lander Jewish?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, he is.
Oh, wow.
But sure.
Yeah, he's Jewish.
Yeah.
Hey, Carol, are we the only people on the right that aren't taking money from Qatar and enemies of Israel right now as far as influencers go?
I've been watching fights go on.
Were you all on the phone before the show?
I heard you talking to somebody on the phone about this.
I was talking to actually Eben Brown, a Fox News, fantastic Fox News reporter and a few other people about this.
No, this, this Qatari money, man, is everywhere.
I do.
Yeah, I know.
She hates it.
I call her on the phone.
We text, I call people on the phone.
Please don't do that.
I don't call you, but I call you, Pat, yeah.
Yeah, no.
But there's so much of this money going around, too.
It's not just the anti-Semitism that's building up organically from, like, groups like that.
But on our side, there are so many people who are magically taking these trips to Cutter
and coming back with a totally different opinion.
of Israel.
Okay, I want to talk about that.
And this is what I said.
I feel like Carol is one of the people in this world that I can have an honest conversation
and trusted conversation with about.
So you know when the UFC Freedom 250 terror plot came out, right?
Yeah.
What we saw was in the statements of the different guys, something about fighting back against
APEC, the American, Israeli political action committee.
From that, Carol, it did not tell me if this person was coming from the left or the right.
right. I did not know. I don't know. Right. I don't know right now. And this is present on the right
as well. And I have conversations with young people and I hear it. I'm telling you,
Charlie Kirk was hearing it a lot. Yeah. You know, what I want to ask you, Carol, is how do you
explain it? Okay. And this is the part that, you know, people could say, Will is indulging. I don't
think so. I think I'm just being a critical thinker. Okay. I think this conversation is too often
wholly dismissed as anti-Semitism.
And I'm not saying that's not present,
and I'm not saying that's not even,
perhaps even the majority of it.
But, and then some of it may be what you're saying, Tim, too,
like an actual astroturfed portion of this as well.
Oh, yeah.
But I do wonder if it's happening on the left
and if it's happening on the right,
and I'm not even getting the substance of the issues.
Like, let's say you're in the government of Israel.
Don't you have to kind of a minute go,
whoa, we're losing PR really bad all across.
the board. And it's like the bad roommate theory. I'm not saying Israel's the bad roommate. I'm just
saying if in self-awareness, if you're getting it from everywhere, I just wonder at some point
how you explain that. Well, Israeli PR, if I could write three books about how bad that's been
over the course of my life, you know, that's very easy to do. But I would say that it is an
op more often than it's not. It might not be directly the people you're hearing from are paid by
cutter or that kind of thing. But they are, those entities are paying influencers who get into the
ears of young people. If a young person is listening to this and you think Israel is your biggest
problem, like, that's an issue. And the thing is that from the right, we have to be wary that
it's the left infiltrating our side. It's, yes, they are doing it in a, shouldn't we be paying,
you know, less funds to Israel? Fine. Have that conversation. But so many of these people end up being
full-on communists. Like you mentioned the people who were involved in the White House
UFC plot. If you read what they were saying, they don't sound that different from Elizabeth Warren.
They're also worried about capitalist interest and billionaires and all of that.
And we're letting that infiltrate our side in the name of let's hear them out on Israel.
I just find a lot of it to be a foreign op that we should be much more careful about.
And the thing is Israel should be doing these kinds of ops, but they're not.
and they're so bad at PR, and they always have been.
They're singularly focused on what they consider an existential threat.
I don't blame them on that, but I wish that they did take the public relations side of this a lot more seriously.
It's not the left infiltrating our side.
It's our side picking up.
It's that influencer economy that's going on right now, and we've picked up a bunch of idiots on our side and pretty girls and guys who are a little bit popular who will take money from anything to say anything.
and I'm seeing, you know, it's, there's a shift now, and I think people are finally waking up to it
to who has been paid and who is taking money, influencer-wise, from different companies and
different things and drug companies and whatever else to try to influence politics.
I mean, I am ideal in influencer marketing constantly, but when you see the people who flip,
it's the people who are susceptible to, like, free trips.
So literally, you show up, you give them, you know, a couple of free drinks, you know,
you treat them like gold, and suddenly they're dropping your talking points everywhere.
But, you know, I think one of the biggest ops that the anti-Israel side dropped in the past couple of years was that $7,000 a post or whatever.
They claimed that anybody who was pro-Israel was getting $7,000 a post.
I'm still waiting for my $7,000 a post, by the way.
I will take that deal all day long to support Israel because I already do it.
Yeah, right?
Like, I mean, like so, but they are, they started and it was very smart how this campaign works because you're working with real dummies and you're giving money to dummies that will say anything on,
on the right and show up and just want to be famous
and just kind of want to be around.
And then they drop the op
that Israel is the one paying people when it's the
complete opposite of who's paying people.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back
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Okay, can I offer a little bit different analysis, and I'm wide open to you guys tell me I'm wrong.
Okay, I think part of it, everything is kind of how I believe.
Like, Tim, whatever your strengths are, are also your weaknesses.
Like, they are in the same-
drinking trait, right?
Look for your weaknesses in the same place that you find your strengths.
Yeah.
So America First is a great ideology.
It's one of the best ever come along in the past, whatever.
with a simple premise of every single political issue that we elect our officials to represent us in Washington, D.C., should be passed through the muster of, does this serve America first?
Israel is an ally, but Israel is not the same country.
And so there will be at times tensions in that relationship.
And I think that Israel knows that, and they're going to acknowledge it, right?
There are times when our interests are not aligned with Israel.
And it's okay to look at that.
And it's okay to point it out.
And it's okay to criticize.
And I think President Trump has actually done a great job of threading this needle.
Now, the problem is, I see, Carol, like, okay, if someone, and you said sure, so I think you agree with what I've said so far.
If someone goes down the path that I just went down, one of two things happens, okay?
it does seem to be that if you offer up criticism of Israel is whatever their agenda is in that moment and that given issue, and it's not aligned with America, you are quickly put into the box of anti-Semitism.
And I think that is very, very unhelpful. If you are in support of Israel, that is one of the most destructive things you can do to your entire movement.
The second thing is, and I'll say this, nobody seems very few people seem capable.
of drinking from that chalice without drinking the whole cup.
I agree with where you say, like, a lot of people start out,
and I'm like, that's a very valid point of view,
that person that he or she is saying about criticism of Israel.
And then months go by or a year goes by,
and all of a sudden I'm like, whoa, we've gone really far now.
Now it's like we drank the whole cup.
And I think these two issues are,
I don't even love talking about this,
because I feel like the whole conversation is a mess.
and incapable of actually sober, rational, critical thought.
It's the basic black or white thing.
People can't see gray on anything.
So you're either all in or considered all in or not all in.
I mean, and that's just, that's how politics,
it's becoming a very basic, very simplistic game.
And people can't see that there's that middle.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right at large, Tim.
But this issue right now, and if we're right, Carol,
this is the one that is animating politics,
this issue, I think from both sides,
It's not handled in a way that really engenders any type of sobriety.
I hear you.
But your second point about how the people who become obsessed with this issue,
it becomes the only thing they can think about.
And they become very quickly not America first.
They become Israel all the time.
And we can name all the podcasters that have gone down this path
who never talk about American issues anymore.
So I totally get that Israel is a separate country.
they have separate issues. I have disagreed with Israeli policy on a number of times, and usually I
disagree from the right because I find them to be too peace-nicky a lot of the time and not willing to
do what they have to do. So I get the disagreeing with Israel, and I think that's normal and healthy,
but what ends up happening is that this brain virus takes hold, and we've seen it happen,
where nothing else matters, and those people become not only not America first, but very often
anti-America, criticizing our entire experiment, you know, crapping on everything that makes our
country amazing. And I don't find that to be a path that anybody should want anybody else to take.
I agree. I agree with that diagnosis. I do. I don't think there are many who have threaded
the needle that I just described. No. That it is okay to be critical of Israel on any number
host of issues, but don't keep drinking from the problem. We could all be critical of Israel on any number
of issues without losing for brown.
But you said from the right.
Yeah.
You said from the right.
But like were I to criticize, I don't even know.
Like if I were to criticize Israel on, I, what's a good, Gaza is not a good issue.
They're super gay.
They're super LGBT.
For sure.
Yeah.
But what if I, if I went down the path of Israel, because this is a fact, Israel spies on America.
They do, right?
They do.
And that is something we should be concerned.
turned about through the lens of America first.
That's what I say, Carol, you know what?
So does every other country.
Now, they may do it more and they may do it better.
But we should be able to criticize them for doing that.
And Will, don't drink the whole cup now.
Don't go all the way they run everything in the world.
But at the same time, oh, no, Will's starting to sound little anti-Semitic, you know.
It's like you can't, I see very few people threading that needle.
They don't sound anti-signing.
Yeah.
If you can maintain, yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Sorry, this is what happens with these digital connections.
Geez.
All right.
Next time I'll stop.
It's Carol.
Go ahead, Carol.
Right.
So, you know, Michael Malice has that great line, like take one red pill, don't take the whole bottle.
And I think that that's what a lot of people end up doing is that everything becomes a conspiracy.
Everything becomes, you know, like, it gets to.
you know, this line of thought that Israel had something to do with 9-11, which is ridiculous.
But then it doesn't even stop there. Israel assassinated John F. Kennedy. I mean, Israel has a long
list of things that it's responsible for in U.S. history, which is just absurd. And you can't be
entertaining this idiocy all day because you won't have time for the issues that are America first
and what are actually important to us. Like, again, you get these podcasters and they're never
talking about immigration anymore. They're never talking about taxes. They're never talking about
anything that we care about, the cost of living. It all becomes this insanity of conspiracy theories,
and they took the whole bottle, and now they can't see straight. There's a cult following that
rewards that behavior online, though, and I think that's one of the reasons that it gets louder,
is that there are so many, very, very active people who are anti-Israel now that if you say something
for or against, you will get the numbers off of those posts. And that,
And I've seen people who their entire definition of their character now online is just being anti-Israel.
I totally agree with you guys.
I know, and we all know that.
I just want to add one more thing.
I just want to say that the news from yesterday in New York, I hate that the issue of Jews is overshadowing it.
Yeah, these candidates are anti-Semitic or in the case of Bradlander, you know, he'll say whatever he needs to say to be part of the leftist club.
But the news out of New York yesterday is a three communists won.
And it's the fact that it's becoming about Israel.
about Jews is so secondary to all that.
If you're America first, be very scared that three communists are going to be in our Congress
now.
That is a huge, huge problem.
You know what I would love to know, Carol.
I would love to know how the Upper West Side and Brooklyn Jews voted in those elections.
I didn't see that exit poll.
I would love to know it.
I think a lot of the Brooklyn Jews in Park Slope and Brooklyn Heights and Carroll Gardens
and that kind of thing, they did go for Bradlander.
but on the Upper West side, Michael Lashir won,
who is the least insane person in that race.
It was the one that George Conway was running in
and the Jack Schlossomberg.
So the least crazy person won on the Upper West Side,
Upper West Upper East side.
So, you know, small wins.
Yeah.
George Conway can go back to chasing Fragles now
because he looks like that thing that chases Fragles.
I don't know.
You've never seen the thing that chases Fragles?
No.
Yeah. I don't know.
When they go out into the backyard, don't worry about it.
You'll see it later.
Yeah.
We'll just attach from a lot of our culture stuff.
Because y'all are a bunch of millennials.
Yep.
And I'm older.
Is that what you're saying, Patrick?
No, you just don't pay attention.
You're stuck, you're stuck bailing hay and stuff out there, you know.
Bailing A.
Sometimes I'm a cut.
I've never seen that thing before in my life, Tim.
Well, that's George Lange.
Yeah.
Sometimes I'm a country club guy.
You never know what somebody's going to accuse me of being.
Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country.
Welcome back to Will Cain Country.
Carol has a column up at New York Post.
Mayor Brandon Johnson declares transfemicide crisis, ignores hundreds of black deaths.
This is great, Carol, because...
Yeah.
So he did.
Oh, here's what he said.
Okay.
For too many transgender Chicagoans,
I just thinking back when I was in college, I first ran across that word.
I think it was in college.
Transfeminism or Chicagoans?
Not transfimicide, not trans-feminist.
Chicagoan.
Yeah.
And I think I read it like a Latino word like, Chicago-Wan.
For too many transgender Chicagoans, the sense of belonging they deserve in their city has been denied by exclusion and barriers to opportunity and spaces that should feel safe and welcoming.
since declaring a trans femicide state of emergency.
Our administration has strengthened the city's capacity to support LGBTQ plus.
Chicagoans.
This framework builds on that work by centering voices.
Oh, good, we're centering voices.
That's always good.
And lived experiences, boys hit them all, of trans Chicagoans to chart a path towards a safer,
more connected to city.
I believe, to your point of, like, how many black people were killed on Juneteenth in Chicago,
the number of trans people killed.
in Chicago is zero.
So how do you get to transphemicide?
Yeah, where are they not allowed?
Where do trans people have no rights in Chicago?
Yeah.
Or they solve the whole issue of trans murders by declaring this, you know, day of
transphemicide visibility.
Oh, that's why there's zero because state of emergency.
Or can you tick sort of like what they used to do with COVID?
After somebody's deceased in the hospital, can you tick the box transgender to make the numbers go up?
I don't think the numbers are up, though.
I mean, though, like, after you go like, oh, this one, can we label this one?
Yeah, and then you tick that.
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
I have a quick question.
What is a femicide?
Is it like, is it trans male?
Specifically killing trans people who are male to female.
So there is no trans mascoside.
Like, the women to men are not being slaughtered in math in Chicago.
Does suicide factor into that, or is that not?
No, no, only homicide.
Is there a homicide crisis of trans people in Chicago?
I swear.
I don't want to call a tweet as no it's fact.
No, only if they're being identified posthumously.
Posthumously or posthumously?
Posthumously.
Oh, look at the hero.
She's the smart one.
She's a smart one here.
No, no, I'm an immigrant.
I learned these words reading.
I don't know anything.
This is her second language.
So it's fine.
It's part of us.
Oh, no.
Now you've told everybody Carol's Russian.
and Jewish. Now, they're never going to listen.
You're causing the transphemicide because you
pronounce the word wrong. You didn't know that?
Carol, I learned a lot of words reading too, and I say a lot
of them wrong. I'm serious. Like, when you don't hear a word
and you only read it, I'll never forget I said it on CNN. I said the word
cacophony. Do you know what?
Cacophony? Yeah. Because I read it. I'm like, I don't know.
I've never used it. I just read it.
CNN, so it didn't matter.
Nobody saw it.
Dozens of people at the airport saw your image but heard no words.
Only the deaf read it and post captioning.
And I got away with it to them.
There you go.
So I was at, not humble brag, big brag,
UFC Freedom, too.
Yeah, I saw the pictures, man.
You were the front row at everything, dude.
No, I'm not.
How do I get to be Will Kane when I grow up?
I'm just a nobody.
No, S front row.
I got shady, shady beef jerky back there is the most I get out of anything free and you're in the front row everything. Go ahead.
I walked in, Carol, and yeah, I didn't know where my seats would be and I walked to my seats.
And I was just walking up and I was like, oh, look, babe, took my wife and I'm like, oh, oh, it keeps getting better, right?
A, I think we're front row.
Went to the row and the seat, my literal seat, if it was A14, B-14, was Shane Gillis.
Okay.
He's right here with Shane Gillis.
He's been reminding us.
I got a friend who looks like Shane Gillis.
Shane was like giving hand signals because right across from us on a different little section was Nate Bargazzi.
And they were like, hey, you call me this and that.
And this story cropped up after UFC Freedom 250.
I saw it.
But it was like one article in The Daily Beast.
I'm like, I'm not even going to give it oxygen.
It's stupid.
I think we all have to make choices of how much we actually respond to something that's not actually a thing.
You know, the Daily Beast writes an article.
because one dude on TikTok was like, how dare Nate Margotsie be with these fascists?
Right? And it's not a thing. But now Variety is written about it. And I'm like, okay, it's becoming a thing. And so here's the headline at Variety. Nate Bargazzi slammed for associating with fascists after attending Trump's UFC fight. W. Kamu Bell tells him, don't be in photos with fascist.
When's the last time, W. Kamal Bell has been relevant? See, I corrected you. Is that I say it? That's Kamal Bell. Yeah.
Wasn't he a replacement on Daily Show for a little bit or something, too?
Or he had a show on CNN that failed.
Don't know how to say anything.
Much less who he is.
A lot of this, I think, is professional bullying.
They don't want these people to be successful.
They don't want them.
And to be successful, all you have to do is wink at the right at this point in entertainment.
And you will get everybody to show up to anything that you want.
They really, I think it's professional jealousy, that they were not only there, but recognized by the White House and are getting millions and millions of dollars for being just friendly and not biased.
Yeah.
Is it a thing?
You think Carol, am I still making it?
It's not a thing.
No.
Variety starts writing about it.
Now people in entertainment are talking about it.
Yeah.
Well, why are they coming after Nate Brigazzi and not Shane Gillis?
Right?
They're both there.
How come Shane Gillis isn't getting the criticism?
It's because Shane Gillis would give them double middle fingers and say, I don't care.
And that's it.
Nate Brigazzi is like the nicest human in the world.
He doesn't curse in his shows.
He's like super, super.
welcoming and kind to everybody.
And they know that they can get him riled up about this.
Like, oh, my God, are people not liking me or is this causing a problem?
And that's why they're targeting him.
I've seen Nate Burgatsi and Shane Gillis in the last year.
Shane Gillis made jokes about, like, having sex with your father.
Like, they cannot get to Shane Gillis.
So they're trying to get to Nate Brugetzi instead.
Don't let them mate.
Having sex with your father.
That's how people know they can't get to me.
I make those having sex with your father jokes.
And I'm safe.
I miss that, Shane Gets.
I don't know. I don't know where that one.
I have, no, I've never heard that before.
No, but it's right.
You know, they want the apology.
They want the apology for the big people.
I wanted to put my fingers in my ears.
Yeah, you're fast.
Just adjacent.
What do you mean?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, there's a new one.
We're going to, we'll do that tomorrow probably.
Well, you can't, that's called a deep tease.
That's a tease.
That's a horizontal tease to another day.
I dressed up for this.
Let me teach you something about broadcasting.
I learned this at ESPN, okay?
A forward tease that day, that's good.
Stick through the commercial break.
When we come back, this is coming up, and you get them to hang on a little bit longer.
A horizontal tease to another day, not effective.
Not effective unless you tell them coming up later this week, we've got Shane Gillis.
That works.
But, hey, Will and Pat and Dan are going to talk about Graham Platner tomorrow.
That didn't work, Patrick.
That's true.
It involves necrophilia and bestiality.
I will say going back to this point, do you know,
You know Love Island, Will.
Do you watch Love Island?
I think I tried, because my assistant Ellie is so big on Love Island,
I tried two episodes, and here's what lost me.
It's too much.
It's four nights a week.
Oh, it's every night.
I have trouble.
If somebody tells me the series is great, and I'm game.
But if I'm three seasons behind, that ain't happening, man.
That's signing up for too much.
I can't sign up for Love Island.
So what's happening is there's this girl on Love Island right now that they're trying to cancel because they found a video of her with a Trump flag behind her, right?
So they're trying to get her kicked off this show because she showed support for Trump.
So people are saying you can just you get canceled for something just because you're supporting someone that everyone else doesn't agree with and you have to be a Democrat to be on television.
You know the one that got me? The Bachelorette that got canceled. Was it the Bachelorette that got canceled?
And yeah. And then it ultimately got the host.
And the host.
The Bachelorette, because the Bachelorette, I don't know who she is.
I don't either.
When she was in college, she went to a sorority, a fraternity formal with a, you know, she's in a sorority.
She went the fraternity guy.
And I believe that the fraternity guy was a K-A.
Kappa Alpha is a Southern fraternity.
Okay, that's their thing, their brand.
And their formal is Dixie.
Like, I do think the boys did, and I don't know if they still do.
Blackface.
No.
That's just for Canadian primaries.
That's only Democrat politics.
Canadian prime ministers.
And it's only Jimmy Kimball.
You get to take Katie Perry after that too.
Oh, man.
No, they wear gray.
They wear gray like blues and grays, right?
And the girls dress up in big Southern Bell, you know, the wide hoop type dress thing.
Yeah.
And she did it.
And she had photos taken.
Of course, it's a formal.
They had photos taken.
And those photos came out.
And this is in 2020, right?
This is the height of insanity.
And she's canceled for supporting the Confederacy, I guess, or plantation.
lifestyle and then Chris Harrison gets canceled because he's like hey guys don't have this right Dan
yeah he's kind of like this isn't right you know I don't know that we should really do this
and they're like oh yeah cancel you too bring it jesse palmer 20 20 what crazy is it was insanity
isn't love island isn't that just about hooking up the entire time like what is the plot of love
island I can't watch I got to watch it for the plot I can't watch two episodes yeah yeah exactly
Well, I'm not a...
They wear lots of clothes.
If you know me a little better, you wouldn't be shocked.
You don't answer the phone when I call, Will.
I'm afraid.
You don't have my number.
Yeah, I was going to say, Will doesn't text back.
Like, after, like, days, you're going to...
Oh, it's not just you?
Or it's not just...
I'm hard to find, guys.
Yeah.
See, it's universal.
Everybody here has said, I don't text back.
So, therefore...
I'm going to start calling.
I'm going to go to Tim Young and just start calling you.
If you knew me better, Tim,
I'm not afraid of a dating show.
No, that's not, that's not accurate.
I'm not afraid of a romance game.
I like games.
So I watched, what's the one that's based off mafia?
Traders.
Likes traitors.
I watched a lot of seasons of Love is Blind.
Because I like the gamification of things.
To your point, Dan, tell me if I'm wrong,
Love Island doesn't have a strong gamification to it.
they have a makeout session.
I don't watch the batch.
Because I don't think the game is strong.
Or who can lick each other's feet.
Literally was a challenge.
Yeah, I'm not into that kind of thing.
But you get canceled for supporting Trump.
It's like, well, they got to make sure that the skanky people in there are liberals, I guess.
No equal opportunity.
Unlike the anti-Semites in the world.
If you didn't say, I'm not playing this game.
I'm not apologizing.
Yeah, they might fire you.
but they'll probably fire you anyway.
Sure.
So you have to just step outside that game.
If you want to bring it all the way full circle, you know, again, being a Jewish conservative,
I've always been sort of on the outskirts of the Jewish world where, like, being a conservative
is weird.
But at least I never had to do the ridiculous things that they have to do.
And I got to say, I'm not playing your game.
I advise all conservatives in liberal spaces to do the same.
Okay, I want to end on something a little more serious.
That's always stupid.
But let's take this back to this socialist march.
You brought up Bradlanders, basically.
The thing is, like, what you said, Carol,
this has been coming for a long time, a long time.
And conservatives have been dismissed
when they call people socialists.
But the truth is, this was a march over time.
And the thing is, like, I'm going to play this
from James Talarico.
Now, I'm not a big fan.
You're not?
You don't like that?
Tala Rico?
What?
What?
I've made that clear.
Oh.
So I'm audience.
I'm sorry.
How could that be?
I'm not objective on this.
But I am telling you that he's no different than these people we're talking about in New York.
He's just presenting it differently.
But he would be, I bet his voting record would be indistinguishable from these members of Congress.
And here's what he said about Christianity.
Yeah.
And that's, you know, I always think of myself as a Christian who hates Christianity.
Right. And like, I always get, always get drawn back into it.
I know you got to go, Carol.
So, yeah.
Do you think I'm wrong?
About, he's the same.
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
I think that they know how to run a little bit more moderate in different places.
I mean, Virginia just learned this lesson with Abigail Spanberger.
She ran as a moderate, got into office, became a complete leftist.
So you just, you can't trust Democrats to tell you the truth about.
about their candidates. They keep trying to massage what the candidates say to cater to different
voting blocks. And they keep trying to run like, oh, this is what men look like. This is what
men want. And Teller Rico's latest example of that, don't believe it. All right, I got to let Carol
Markowitz go. I don't know where she has to be. She has to be somewhere 30 seconds ago.
She's important. She's a big-time columnist, man. That's, you know.
Carol Markowitz, columns at the New York Post and the host of the Carol Markowitz show. Always good to hang out.
Thank you guys. Thanks.
Tim, did you like Steve Hillen?
I didn't get to talk to him.
You didn't even get to talk to him?
No, he came in here.
No, I'm, look, I look like a tech guy.
And so, like, they just, they walk by me.
They're like, this guy gets the water for the show.
That was a little complimentary of you.
You look like IT.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, there you go.
I look like I as a candidate.
What's his name?
Who is the Chad Bianco follows me on X, so I like him a little bit better.
But he's out now.
Yeah, I know, yes.
I think he's got a chance to win, you know, if they don't count ballots until 20, 28.
I think he'll be up by 10.
I think election night he'll be up by like 10 points.
Yeah.
And then they'll just keep on counting.
That's the first time I met Stephen person.
I really liked him.
Come on, men.
And that little English stuff that they throw in, I want to master some of those.
A delightful thing.
You know, I would expect more attitude.
Don't start calling it to Lou.
He's a very, very cool guy.
I could tell by mannerisms, again, he didn't recognize my presence.
But I could tell by mannerisms.
He seems like a nice guy.
Yeah.
Seriously smart
I mean
I'm gonna tell you you
don't have enough to that Southern Charm
I know
I don't know why
Like where's you
You don't have enough drawl
Like where's your drawl?
You lived in New York City too long
That's why
People say it's gone up
Since I left
Since I've been back
Is that true?
I would agree
Have you noticed it go up?
Yep
Really?
Southern Charm?
No my accent
Twang
Oh
Because I thought the
The show that you did
When you were at downtown
Fort Worth
In the Stockyards
It was really cool the other day
I thought like that
You're really reclaiming your, showing that you're Texan and not New York, establishing that.
I've noticed it for sure.
Me, I'm never going to lose my East Coast.
I'm never going to lose my East Coast.
I'm just in Fort Worth being a non-accent speaker who is very picky at restaurants.
They gave me a red, white, and blue cowboy hat, right?
I was going to say.
Where do I, go ahead, Dan.
That wasn't my favorite look on you, you know?
Well, when I got a text that morning said, by the way, it's a text that morning.
said, by the way, it's a great hat brand.
It's very nice.
And a great hat shop.
American hats are awesome.
Yeah.
And they texted me.
They said, they have a red, white, and blue hat for you.
And I'm like, oh, no.
I'm like, I'm not wearing a red white.
I'm not wearing it.
I'm not wearing that on camera.
In my head, I pictured something that only two people I can think of, two types of people,
where it's those almost Australian-looking cowboy hats,
with the brims a little floppy, a little too far down in the front and the back,
and it's got big, bold, red, white, and blue stripes on it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And there's only two type of people that wear that hat.
Yeah.
All right.
57-year-old ladies in tank tops down at the lake.
Okay?
That's one.
And the other is the Secretary of War.
So, I mean, I'm not wearing that.
I was going to say he'll definitely wear that.
I mean, he probably has a couple already.
Yeah.
But I went in and Dan, I thought it was much more tasteful.
It was really small red, white, and blue strands that came off from a distance as red-ish, red-ish.
It's a really nice hat.
Tim really likes it.
If it was my size, I have a very large oblong head.
Yeah, I wear.
Seven and three-quarter.
Oh, gosh.
I actually thought about it.
When you said that, I thought about giving it to you.
I really did.
All fit.
I'm a seven-and-three-eight's.
Well, so by the way, I looked up here.
It's Frederico Wilson was the member of Congress.
Remember, she used to wear cowboy hats all the time and dress a macho man?
It's her and macho man are the two people who wear those hats.
Can I ask you a question?
It's a gorgeous hat.
Will, what's a 10-gallon hat?
I always wanted that.
What does that mean?
I barely know.
I mean, that's about the size of the crown.
You know what I mean?
Because that one was pretty big.
That's a pretty big crown.
No, that, no, it was normal.
That was normal.
And he shaped it up.
Nice.
It's itself, shape was awesome.
It's just red, white and blue.
That's not that big of one, Dan, really.
Since your front row at everything, what are you doing for the 4th of July?
What are you front row at for the 4th of July?
What are your premier seats at?
What do you got?
I put you on the roof of the White House to watch the fire, like, what is this?
Now, I'm going to Philadelphia.
That's front row for the 4th July, right?
That's not bad, yeah.
I'm working.
Dan will be there.
I'll be there.
I'm working on Saturday, the 4th of July.
Dan, do we know where we're doing the show from that day?
Yeah, Lincoln Financial Field, right?
We'll find out July 1st.
It could be either one.
It could be the field or outside.
So we have fee for credentials.
But I mean, it's at the stadium.
So the question, and there's a World Cup game that day.
But the question is, where are we?
Are we in the parking lot?
Or are we in the stadium?
I mean, you've got a good streak here.
Every time I'm here, it's front row at something.
I think if I'm going all the way to Philadelphia to work on the 4th of July,
we should at least be in the stadium.
Matches 5 o'clock.
Gianni, if you're listening, all right?
You told me once.
I met him once.
I could broadcast from the field.
Johnny, I remember.
Remember me?
Met you?
The Super Bowl?
My son got his picture with you.
You said I could broadcast from the field.
Time to pay up, Johnny.
Is that the UK-US game?
Or you could do any of the Dallas games.
If that one doesn't work for you,
I'll also accept any of the Dallas games.
I just want a cowboy hat.
Can I just call out the, where's the company in Fort Worth?
I want one of those cool hats.
I have a million followers on X.
I need to start cashing in on this, man.
You let the word out.
You can go get one.
With money?
Free hats.
I don't get paid by foreign governments.
I found out this week that I don't get paid by foreign governments.
I'm the one that doesn't.
What did you find out this week?
You're on a hot streak of people.
Dude, I'm watching some representatives.
I'm not going to name them because I don't want to get into this drama,
but I'm watching people from multiple influencer marketing firms yell at each other about you're taking money from this company or country and you're taking money from this country and they're going back and forth.
And I'm just watching this and I'm just sitting back smoking my cigar watching all this happen and realizing to myself.
They're doing it publicly on X or something?
Yeah.
I mean, look, I apparently should be violating Farrow like everybody else and getting money from a foreign government.
I need to work on this.
Japan.
Call me.
I want to go over and meet Japanese women and go to the Pokemon theme park.
You pay me off.
You don't have to take it from Qatar.
What country would you like to take?
Japan.
Japan.
Dubai?
Yeah.
Oh, I can go see IWGP over there and startup.
Sorry, I'm going off here.
But again, the Pokemon, they need to get me a Canto theme park over there.
All of my nerds, I'll never come back.
You can get a house over there for like $15,000, like an abandoned house in the countryside.
In Japan?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dan, where do you want to take money from?
Ooh, I don't know.
Maybe, I would say Japan.
Japan's pretty good one.
I've never been to Japan.
I haven't either.
I don't even know.
It's hard for me to, it's hard for me to even, like if you said top five places you want to go.
Yeah.
I wouldn't put Japan.
And I don't know why.
I would.
Number two for me.
I think because my image of Japan is Tokyo and I'm like, I've been to big cities, you know, but I know that Japan is otherworldly.
You go up into the mountains and the snowy mountains and they got the monkeys.
I know, I know.
They got so much.
I know.
What do you saying, Patrick?
I said big cities aren't like Tokyo.
Tokyo is a whole different place.
Yeah, that's true.
They get the countryside.
And then you got Okinawa.
Yeah.
Cherry blossoms.
You got, I mean, and they do America better than us.
Like, you go there, you go to get a hamburger for McDonald's.
I don't know what that means at all.
What?
You're saying a McDonald's burger is better in Japan than a McDonald's burger down the road right here?
They like wagging.
Because they love us so much that they go, they take America and then they,
inject it with steroids
and it's like five times in America
that you get here.
I like that. It's crazy.
Patrick's America is fast food.
That's not mine. You would think it would be, but it's not.
I mean, if you ask Patrick, and we did, his five favorite things about America,
two of them are Taco Bell.
Texas Barbecue's in my top five now.
He said Chalupa.
I literally think one of is at Taco Bell.
I think it was a Taco Bell.
What is the Chalupa? Is that the fried one with the...
I think isn't the Chalupa the soft taco?
inside of a hard taco or the reverse?
That's the or Dita crunch.
That's your ready to crunch.
The chalupa's the one that's like it's like a soft shell, but it's also crispy.
But yeah, the street chalupas are out.
Fahita street chalupas, creamy jalapeno sauce.
We're getting them on tonight.
It's exciting.
Oh, the chalupa is the is the puffy but crispy thing at the same time.
Shell.
Yes.
That they only have at Taco Bell.
They don't have like in Mexico.
So, wait, to go back to the other, what country would you want to go to?
Yeah, I did ask all you guys to give me a little time to think about it.
And I don't know, to be honest.
I really don't.
Like, what country is my second favorite country?
I don't know what my second favorite country.
I don't have a second.
I'm just America.
I like America.
But I have to find two weeks, and that's the problem.
When you go over to an Asian country, you have to have time to go over to an Asian country, and I don't have it.
You know what I always like the idea of?
My wife's like, you wanted to go here.
I like the idea of Spain for some reason, but they're super less.
Lefty, super lefty.
Are they really?
You went to Spain?
If I go to the UK now, I'll be hauled into an office somewhere and talk to about my social media posts.
So I can't go to London's out for one for me.
Right.
Germany's probably out for me too because they're even worse.
Running out of European countries you go to.
I've never been to Scandinavia.
Don't know what that's like.
Norway seems fun.
I'm going to say something.
Oh, yeah, I've been to Norway.
It's cool.
I'm going to say something and then I'm going to get emails from somebody probably from that country trying to pay me off.
if Russia wasn't our enemy
I'd love to go see
like the Kremlin
and I want to go see
I've been offered it a few times
and then I talk to my defense intelligence people
and they're like do not take the free trip
to Russia Tim and I'm like okay
Russia offered you free trip
twice twice really yes
they told me I would definitely be honey potted
and it would be terrific
I don't have any of these invitations
where do they come
email
so my email is public
and I get emails sometimes
and at one time the first time Trump was elected
I was invited over to be a part of a free speech
forum in Moscow. And then I was offered to sit down with Sergei Lavrov, actually, two years ago,
three years ago, when the Ukraine stuff was really hot. They asked me, and I was like,
absolutely not. No, I'm not, no. I got my answer. I just thought of it when you were talking.
And I don't know which one yet it is. It's either Argentina or Brazil. I think that's,
I think I'd like to go check those out. And I'm open to hear off. Is the beef? Between the two?
It's right wing.
Yeah.
The libertarian and melee.
Brazil's very liberal and high crime.
Dangerous.
Argentina.
You're going to get kidnapped in the world.
Argentina would be fun.
Argentina.
In Brazil?
Yeah.
Or Argentina?
In Brazil.
I do want to go to Brazil.
It looks like a ball.
They, yes.
The things I want to say, I can't say.
Yes.
Just look at the fans of certain soccer teams and you'll see.
Yeah.
I know.
I've been single for three weeks and I've scouted the entire globe.
Columbia seems like a beautiful place.
What does?
Columbia, just based on watching some games.
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
My neighbor, his wife is Colombian and she offered to take me to Columbia to meet women.
And I go, no, thank you.
But apparently that's the place to go when you're trying to get the green card marriage.
Oh.
I don't know where I am in my life right now where people are offering me that, but it's not good.
It's not good.
Well.
Tim.
Thanks for film.
Doesn't like these people taking foreign money, but open to the idea.
Tim Young.
Not close.
There's it.
Good to see you, man.
Farah forms are very complicated to fill out, I heard.
But you know, whatever.
All right, I'm done.
All right, good to see you, man.
Thank you.
All right.
That's going to do it for us today here on Will Kane Country.
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