Will Cain Country - Big Tech Tries To Erase Trump! PLUS, The Writers Of 'Gutfeld!'

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Story #1: What has gone wrong and what is still right when it comes to the Olympics?  Story #2: What goes into a day behind the scenes of Gutfeld! Featuring writer and comedian, Joe Machi. Story #3: Why are Google & Meta tuning down searches and images of former President Donald Trump? A conversation with the crew. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here it is. It's Tom Shillow, in for Wilkane on the Wilcane podcast. Do we call it the Wilcane podcast? Do we call it the Will Kane show? Show now. It's the show. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know why. See, podcasting used to be like, oh, that's your junior partner in the broadcasting world. Oh, I have a little cute podcast. but podcasts now are ruling the world. So to me, I almost think podcast sounds better than show, but we're going to go with the Will Kane show. Listen, this is a great opportunity for me to get back in this game. Tom Shaloo, who used to host a daily show on Fox News Radio, three hours a day.

So, you know, I'm getting these muscles, you know, getting back in the game as it is, all right? I love the Will Kane show, and I love Will Kane. I've always thought that, you know, Will and I, would probably make a great team, except for the fact that we are, we're too simpatico. You know what I mean? There's no, there's no, there's almost no difference in our world views in the way that we look at politics and everything else. So we'd be constantly saying, Will, I totally agree with you. And he'd say, Tom, you're the smartest guy in the world. And I'd say, Will, I just think you're the, it would be boring. Do you understand what I'm saying?

You know who loves Will Kane? Let's bring up that video of Paula Dean. I was down. in, where the heck was I? Where is that? It's Savannah. I was down in Savannah for the, what was the celebration? Do you guys know? I think it was St. Patty's Day. St. Patrick's Day, of course.

It's funny because when you're down in the South, I think of St. Patrick's Day as like a Boston, a New York thing, you know, like with the Irish, it's cold, it's windy, you got to wake up. You go down in the South, they have huge St. Patrick's Day celebration. So Savannah had an off-the-charts at St. Patrick's Day, and I was down there, and I ran into Paula Dean on the street, and I started talking to her. Let's play Paula Dean. She wants to know where Will Kane is. Let me ask you something. Where is Willie Kane? Willie Kane?

Uh-huh. I thought he'd come see me. Maybe. Maybe you did. Why didn't I try to see him? No, I don't think so. I hadn't seen him. Oh, okay. Will. I'm so happy. Tom is such a unique person, and he's got the key. The sense of humor you've ever met. See what I mean?

That is like me and Will. Like, you know, if you like me, you like Will Kane. So I'm talking to her. She's like, where's Willie Kane? I didn't even know what she was talking about. So anyway, Willie Kane's not here. I'm filling in. And let's talk about what you did this weekend.

Watch the Olympics, maybe. Okay, we're going to start with the Olympics controversy. Then we're going to get to actual Olympics. Olympic Controversy, the opening ceremonies. I didn't watch them because I tend to not like that kind of, you know, I don't like ceremonies. You don't find me watching the Oscars or, you know, the Tony Awards or anything like that. The watching parades of people, I don't know, it's just not that fun.

It's not a thing I do. So I didn't hear about the controversy until the next day, and then everyone's blowing up. Oh, did you see what they did? It was satanic. What? Satanic? What happened? Oh, they had the, you know, they mocked the Last Supper.

They had the, you know, drag queens and everything else. Fairly unsurprising. Now, France comes out and, you know, originally they decided to say like, oh, you know, it was just about inclusivity. And, you know, this is just the way it is. And they tried to kind of blow it off. Well, it looks like by today, by today's news, they're apologizing for it. They've finally decided that they want to shake themselves to this country. controversy and say, okay, we did a bad thing. Because people were just disgusted by it. And I think,

you know, I can't imagine it didn't affect the ratings because I was, when I saw that opening ceremony, I let's decide I didn't watch it live, but, you know, when I saw the news of it, I thought, you know what, I'm just sick of, I'm sick of this kind of stuff. I'm sick of, you know, our world being ruined by these people. It's kind of turned me off of a lot of sports, you know, with the whole, you know, the national anthem kneeling thing and everything. A lot of Americans were like, I'm not going to watch sports anymore. Now, you know, then you get back in and you watch sports and you forget about it. But a lot of us got turned off of a lot of national things that way. You know, our national pastimes, baseball, football, all that stuff because the woke crowd

had kind of ruined it for us, right? And that's the way we felt about the Olympics. But, you know, about three or four hours later, I was tuning into the Olympics because my daughter is a swimmer and we wanted to watch the swimming. So we got back into it. And, you know, once you start watching the sports, you realize it's all about the sports and you can forget about all those woke characters and everything else. Have you guys been watching the coverage? Yeah. Yeah. It's been interesting. Yeah. You know, I don't know, I didn't know what to make it at first, but it's been, it's been interesting. Definitely very French. is what I can say.

Oh, yeah, you think, well, there's a lot of, there's the look of it, you know, the graphics, the fonts, everything else. And then they keep cutting to that, you know, the graphics with the balloons and, you know, there's a lot of people who spend a lot of time on this stuff. You can't begrudge designers and theater people for, you know, putting their two cents in. But the, but when you get down and you're watching the events, it is still quite exciting. And it's one of the few things you can do as a family. So we're watching it with the kids, and we're watching the swimming. And let's get to something my daughter brought up, okay? I got a 14-year-old daughter.

She likes swimming. What's the name of this guy? The French guy wrote his name down somewhere. Look it up, guys. The French medalist. He won... Leon Marchand. Leon Marchant.

Okay. This guy is essentially American. I mean, he's French, but he attended you. university here, I think in Arizona. He swims for an American college. His coach is Michael Phelps's coach. Wow. And Michael Phelps helps coach him as well, because that's what these guys want to do. He's one of the best, or if not the best in the world, certainly in some events. And so the top coaches want to work with him and the top coaches are American. My daughter said he shouldn't be allowed to go back and compete for France. Basically, he's getting all the benefits of the

American sports system. He's going to university here. What do you guys think? Do you agree with my daughter? I think it's almost just so pro-American that even France's best athlete is a product of our system. Yeah. So you think it's good. It's kind of cool that we know that he's getting the benefits of the American system. Yeah. And it goes both ways. I think Joel and Bede, you know, non-Americans playing for Team USA basketball. So it's interesting. Oh, so we are, we're benefiting. Yeah, we're benefiting. Now, where's this? Joel Embed is Cameroonian American.

So he was born in Cameroon, but he's playing for the team USA. So it's going a little both ways. But I'm okay with it. You know, you get to choose what you get to choose. People have dual citizenship and things like that. So I'm all right with it. And I posed the question to, because I was kind of arguing with my daughter. I was like, look, the guy's French.

I mean, and then he started talking, and I said, listen to the guy. I mean, he's sons, he's got the French accent. We, yeah, yeah, exactly. So he's very glad to be swimming and all. And so I said, the guys, you know, he's got to face his French family and everything like that. He wants to be there and, you know, the Olympics are in Paris and everything. I almost had her convinced, but then I started thinking, wait a minute, what if this were like Russia or China, right? If you had like a someone who came from China and now they're in the U.S.

U.S., they're going to school here, and then they went back and they swim for the commies, somehow that wouldn't be appropriate to me. I don't think they would roll with most people. So you're right. It depends on the country. It's very country-oriented. The French are harmless. Yeah, exactly.

That's it. I mean, they're an ally of us, so, but when it comes to it, I guess the dividing line is, it's commies, right? Is that where it is? Axis of evil. Yeah, I guess it is. Very astute. Okay, so the, obviously we've got the controversy that happened over the opening ceremonies, but nobody lost their job over it, right?

But guess who did lose their job? Do you guys have the tape? It's from TikTok. It's just a quick clip of this guy. He's a sports guy, all right? And Bob, what's his last name? Bob something, I think he's an Australian broadcaster. But he was talking.

And this guy's been doing this for years. The guy's like, yeah, Bob Bauer. So he's got a 30-year career in sports, all right? He's well-respected, he knows this stuff. So they got him on the crew here, and he's doing, you know, whatever he does, play-by-play or color commentary. I don't even know because all I've heard is this one little snippet here. But after the women finished up, I'm not even clear which sport it was.

Maybe you guys can tell when we show the clip. But it's a women's team, and they were taking a while to get from one place to another, and this was the comment that he said. Intent. Well, the women just finishing off. You know what women are like, hang it around, you know, doing the makeup. Oh, here you just bought. Some of the men are doing that as well?

We're doing the make. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So that's it. That's it. I mean, let's play it again. I want to hear the exact, you know, I want to hear his exact words because we can go over

what he said and why it was so offensive. And the woman, she says outrageous. So they quoted her in the press saying, his co-host was shot. and she said outrageous. But do you really think she was shocked and offended? She's kind of laughing along with him. Play the comment again. Well, the women just finishing off. You know what women are like. Hang it around, you know, doing the makeup. Oh, here you just bought. Some of the men are doing that as well?

We're doing the make. Okay. Okay. Okay. There's two things I want to say here because the guy was fired. He was removed from the broadcast and the broadcaster made a big apology. over it and he made an apology as well he said that was you know I'm so so sorry that my comments weren't meant to offend you know the classic apology and then said I won't be saying anything more about it and so I saw various posts on social media saying oh look at this guy he's he's taken women's sports back in time or whatever the guy was joking around obviously the women weren't putting on makeup because they just had gotten off the the athletic field they were just

performing. He was making a joke to his co-host, who was a woman, and that's probably why he was making that joke. He said, you know women. They were hanging around, doing their makeup, ha, ha, ha. She said, outrageous. And then she said, which I think is interesting, some of the men were doing that, too. I don't know if they were. I mean, neither of them were doing it. No one was putting on makeup, okay? The guy liner. Exactly. Maybe, yeah, I think, the guy who did the opening ceremony, there was a little eyeliner there. But the point is, everybody knows girl boss, women are in sports. Everyone loves women. I mean, with, you know, the Olympics, all I was watching was the women's sports, because I got a couple of daughters and we

want to watch the women. And then, you know, then they cut to a commercial and it's, you know, Edward Jones or some investment company, and it shows a woman, you know, doing the floor routine and, oh, invest in your future, and, you know, and the women's gymnastics team, the swimmers, the whole deal. Everybody loves women, loves women in sports. We never shut up about it. And as a result, that we're always talking about the, you know, girl power and everything else, people make silly jokes like that.

Overreaction? What do you think, guys? I think a little bit. It's tough now, especially, you know. I always, would I say that to my fiancé's face? You know, that kind of thing? Yes. Yes, I would.

But is that, like, writing jokes, too, like, I know he's not a comedian or anything, but is there, that's not an over-the-line thing, right? Well, also, they, I'm assuming this guy is a colorful character. Right. Trying to bring some humor to the broadcast. Yeah, he's not a, you know, your kind of A-list broadcaster or, you know, the main anchor. So you hire these guys to be your kind of side man and to come up with, interesting things to say. If you're not that interesting, if you can't come up with anything,

then, you know, you're boring and they're going to find a new side guy. Right. Guys like myself, I'm brought in as a comedian. Now, am I going to make everyone roll in the aisles laughing on Fox News? No. But sometimes I come up with an interesting, witty comment about somebody, you know, sometimes when I'm co-hosting a show, like the big weekend show, I'll say something. And, you know, the rest of the panel laughs because I'm known as a comedian. It wasn't even that funny. I'm kind of riding on fumes at that point. I have the laugh track ready just in case. Exactly.

It's like my reputation. You know what I mean? Or Jimmy Fala. Jimmy Fala will make a salient political point and people will laugh and it's like, well, you know, same with gutfeld, you know. So they have us around to be funny and they want us to be kind of funny and edgy and maybe say the things that the host can't say. That's what this guy was doing. And he's there to be kind of jovial and whatever. and also be kind of the dorky, middle-aged white guy.

So what do you do? You make jokes like, oh, that's the way women are. Just kidding. I'm a dorky old white guy. You know, we have antiquated humor. So the whole thing is of a piece. It's like guys almost, that guy was almost making fun of himself and doing a dad joke.

And yet he was fired for it and acting as if he was being sexist. That's true. But, you know, it's tough. But that's kind of a – people will just get a little uptight about it, say, like, you know, that's an in-private kind of joke. Yeah. Well, that's what they say. A broadcaster fired for inappropriate comment. Yeah.

Sexist comment gets a man fired. That's the way you will see it portrayed in the press. Well, what does it end up doing? I mean, look, we're not going to shed a tear over a guy who's had a 30-year career in broadcasting. But the fact is it just makes life less fun all around. because nobody can be joking or being loose or things like that. Unless you're someone like Gutfeld, who every day of the week says far worse things, and then he just puts in a title that says, a sexist would say, and he gets away with it, right?

Smart. Real smart. So on the Olympics coverage, I want to talk about Mike Torrico. He's great. Like, I'm watching the coverage, and he's kind of bland. He's kind of generic. There's really nothing exciting about him. He's not going to make any, you know, sideways comments about anything,

but he's excellent at his job, and he, there's people around here that are like that. You know, when I am, you know, doing Dana Perino's show, you know, America's Newsroom, and I'm sitting next to her and Bill, and then the reporter comes in with some live breaking news, you know, on the border or whatever it happens to be, these guys can riff, they're very serious, they know their stuff. And, you know, a lot of people think I'm like, oh, Shaloo, you're like a comedian, you can just kind of wing it, you can riff. Nobody can riff like these news people, you know. It's true. So someone like Mike Tariko, he's on all day long.

I'm sure the guy's like getting four hours of sleep a night. He's doing great work. But I think he's excellent at his job. And guys like that are very rare. He's an NFL guy, right? Yeah, he does Sunday Night Football. Yeah. Yep.

Yeah, I used to work for Dan Patrick, too, and he was one of those guys. He used to Sunday Night Football and the Olympics. Absolutely. Dan Patrick. Let's do a list. Let's make a list. Because I grew up with Jim McKay, okay, ABC News, obviously a legend. Also very bland, but he delivered the goods.

He was the kind of guy you could spend the whole day with watching Olympic coverage. And then, speaking of the news guys, you know, I'm of an age where I remember the Munich murders that happened there in the Olympic Village. and Jim McKay went from sports guy right to news guy and he covered that thing like he was one of those old-fashioned guys who could just become a newsman when the news

broke and they left all the coverage with him they didn't have to go. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So Jim McKay, all right, he's one of the greatest. Who were some of the other top guys? Al Michaels. Al Michaels has done it. Bob Costas was a big one for the Olympics. Bob Costas huge. Even though

Costas became You know, because I'm talking, you know, one of the things I, to me with these guys is their blandness. Like, they're not supposed to take away from the coverage at all. Right. Like, no one is going to accuse Mike Tariko of having an outsized personality like Howard CoSelle or something like that. Bob Costas, I think, was one of those generic guys. But then he became a personality. He started giving his opinion, and he became almost bigger than the, that role.

and then he almost became a color guy, I think. Yeah, and then he was one of those guys that when something broke very serious in the sports world, they would go to him. Yes. You know, he covers the very serious parts of, like kind of the news of sports almost. Yeah, yeah. Jim Nance is another guy. Can watch that guy forever. Love that guy.

He's the best. Hello, friends. Yeah, exactly. And I think Brian Cumble was great, too. Yep. I mean, he came from sports, but then he kind of became a, you know, one of those morning guys. but also very good, you know, very good at his thing. So we've got a lot going on today.

We've got some of my, one of my favorite guys, Joe Mackey is going to be coming in. We're going to take a break, then we're going to come back with Joe Mackey, right? Do we have him? Is he here yet? He is here. He's waiting in our makeshift green room. He's here and waiting. And what I would like to do is kind of get behind the scenes and talk about what we do on the Gutfeld show.

A lot of times I go out in the road and. people are like, you know, how do you guys do it? How do you put that show together? I mean, do you just kind of wing it? Is everything written? Well, we're going to kind of get to that. We'll talk about how we build the show with Joe Mackey and how we deal with Greg Gutfeld, who can be, well, we'll just say. I'm going to let Joe Mackey talk about what it's like to deal with Gutfeld day in and day out. So this is the Will Kane show. And I haven't checked in with anyone online. We got people giving us feedback and everything online, right? Yeah, I could read some later on. I can. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We'll get to get to the people. I want to interact with my

audience, right? Because, you know, I see the way Will works it. He's working the audience. Man of the people. He's reading the comments. But when we come back, we will talk with Joe Mackey and we'll be talking about all things gutfeld. We'll be back on the Will Kane show. it is time. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at thequiz.com. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz.

We're talking about flights with Joe Mackey here on the Will Cain Show. We were, I basically said, Joe Mackey, comedian, how was your weekend? And, of course, he was out on the road playing a comedy club. Where were you? I was in Spokane. Spokane. Beautiful city. Washington.

Yes. I've never even been there. It is on the... western edge of Washington, and it's a little drier. It's not like Seattle. Beautiful giant pine trees, not nearly as big as Seattle. Fantastic. So what were you doing? Friday Saturday? Friday Saturday gig, lots of Gutfeld heads out there. Yeah. Yep. The power of Gutfeld. For, you know, I'm sure we have some Gutfeld fans here, and the audience is huge. I actually, everybody knows that Greg's ratings are through the roof

and he's either beating or competing with all the top late-night shows. But I actually think his ratings are even higher than are said. I don't know if I can say that on this show. Are we supposed to like poo-poo the rating system? Because I think it's not really dead on. I think Fox News ratings are higher than they say,

even though we're number one. And I think the Gutfeld show, particularly, because I'll base it on this and see if Mackey agrees with me. Back in the day, I mean, I've done television. I've been doing it for years. I'm no superstar, but I was on a place called Comedy Central for years. And all these other channels, MTV, you know, Comedy Central.

I was on the Daily Show when it was first on. I've done The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon probably 25 times. I used to do Conan O'Brien all the time. I would never get the kind of juice out of those shows. shows from that audience, occasionally somebody would come and say, hey, you know, I'm a fan ears. I watched you on Comedy Central. Nowadays, though, with Gutfeld, I go out of town. The room is filled with people. I walk in the room. The whole place erupts, you know, it's like, it's unbelievable. Do you have the same experience, Joe? That's a good point. You know, I did the Tonight Show, and it was great,

and it was a lot of fun, but I don't think I've had anyone come up to me after a show and say that they came to the show because of the tonight show. Maybe it's the time that you're on Gutfeld or the amount of times, but they feel like they know you when you do Gutfeld, which is a big help. It's a family kind of feel. Yeah, yeah. It's the Fox News fans, the Gutfeld fans, they're used to watching you. Obviously, part of it's the repeated viewing because they see us, we make many, many appearances

on the show, but also because they have a, they feel like they're part of some community, right? I can only speak for myself, but you feel like you're homeless in stand-up comedy and entertainment. And then finally someone comes along and has a point of view that's not calling you an idiot every 10 seconds. And that means something to me. To go a little off topic, it's like, I've had people come up to me and be like, well, why didn't you make more Trump jokes at the show? And I'm like, well, look, that's a good point. I didn't make that many.

But there's every other comedian for that. Yeah. Like, I can't escape that. Yeah. Where all you have to do is not watch Fox News or, you know, a few other outlets. It's just, it's, we're living in their world. Yeah. And people are grateful that's, like, in some small way, the battle's been joined in comedy.

Yeah. It's funny because the, uh, nobody demands equal. time in other kind of, with other comedians, you know, like if you see, you know, Seinfeld, people like, oh, well, all you did was that, you know, observational humor. Why don't you do any impressions, Jerry? It's like, well, I kind of do these things and other people do those things. Yeah, yeah. It's like, why don't you play the guitar, you'd be a wreath of Franklin or I don't know. It just people do what they do. That's okay.

So you are doing, do you usually go out on the weekends, most weekends? Yeah, I'd say 35 to 40 weekends. Oh, my gosh. That's a brutal schedule. Yeah, yeah. And then you're going to get back here for work. Yeah, and I'm lucky. They let me write remotely.

Yeah. So that helps. But, yeah, I got maybe next summer I'm going to take off. It's just, it's hard getting around in the summertime. Let's talk about the workflow and Gutfeld, all right? The show's on every day. I'm not really sure how it all comes together. because the, you know, at the end of the day, a show has to be done.

So how it all comes together, I'm not sure. Everyone seems to be working very hard. You've got approximately how many people on the staff. And I'll say this, that, like, I've seen those other shows. I've been over there to The Tonight Show. I mean, we're talking about 30 or 40 people, just comedy writers. Yeah. Forget about the production staff and everything else.

I mean, there's, like, more than 100 people who work on the show. Tonight Show. It's insane. When James Corden did his last episode, they did a montage of goodbyes of all the staff, and I couldn't believe how long it was. It just kept going. Our goodbyes would be like, it'd take five minutes. Yeah, it's like a dozen people

give or take one or two. And I don't know what those other staffs do all day, but Gutfeld, the whole process is like everyone has an input. Yeah. It's all hands on deck.

but there is a general, and that general is Greg. Yeah. And he's essentially head writer and producer of the show, even though the show has writers and a producer. Yeah, yeah, it still all comes down to him. But he wants your input. Like, he's not acting like a dictator. He wants to hear what you think we have a... Surprisingly.

Yeah, we meet every day at 2.30 to try to figure out how we can make the show as good as we can. Yeah. And I don't, I'm not on writing staff on the show, but I'm not on the show. I do sometimes come in as writer and go to those writer's meetings. So I guess the day starts with Greg and his monologue. A lot of people say, does Greg really write that monologue? He does. Every day he gets up, and I think he writes it when he's exercising on Peloton or something

like that. Yeah, and we have a couple other guys that will write sometimes. But yeah, Greg will write it or one of the other two will write it. And then Greg will rewrite it and then we'll add jokes and try to go back and forth. and like, you know, something could be a little stronger here. Maybe we need a space here. And then we try to figure it out collaboratively, which I like. It's kind of fun.

He sends the monologue around and in an email and not even in an attachment, right? It's just like he just emails you the monologue. And then we all kind of, you know, not the whole staff, but the writers all send, what would you say? Like about four guys are working on it at a time? I'd say three, three. myself, Joe, Nick, and then... Nick DePalo, Joe DeVito, and yourself, and then say, if Joe is off, or if you're off,

I'll be in there, and I'll be part of that trio. And then the monologue goes around, and you kind of will write a comment or a joke in red ink, right? And then you send it back. Yep. And then that goes to Greg, and then he picks what he likes, throws out what he doesn't. And not even that he doesn't like it, It just, he wants to keep that four, four, five minutes.

So, yeah. And we're all on a time crunch. So it's all got to be done because he's got to tape the five as well. So, yes, he's got to get in the five. So he has a meeting at 2.30 and then he kind of runs off and does the five. But the, basically, what you're saying is that most of what you write is going to get thrown away anyway, right? Mm-hmm. He'll just look at the jokes.

So you'll write five jokes and he might pick one of them. Does it ever, do you ever get attached? to jokes and think, oh, you know, this is a good one. I hope Greg, you know, does this. Or if he throws it away, do you ever say, hey, not for nothing, Greg, but take a second look at that great line I threw at you? All the time, yeah. I think it's just ego, because at the end of the day, it's Greg show.

Yeah. It's the great Gutfeld show. It's not the Joe Mackey show until Friday when I guest host. Yeah, it'll be the Joe Mackey show. That's right. Yeah, it's tough to, I think that's tough for any comedian because, like, I never wanted to write for a show. I never aspired to, because I'd never like the idea of someone getting the credit for my joke

or spending the mental energy it takes to write jokes for someone else. But I find out I kind of like it. And once you can just kind of get over the fact that, like, it's not always your decision. You have to, like, let go of it and let Greg do what he does. He's doing pretty good. I can't argue with his track record. Yeah. So I'll let him do what he does.

Yeah, he knows what he's doing. Or he must. You have to kind of trust that. But I say to my wife, like, I will write stuff. I'll write, you know, we write the intros. We try to write silly intros for people. Everybody throws those in. So, you know, naturally, it's rare that yours is going to get picked to be the thing.

But you just kind of, you can't worry about it. You just throw your ideas down and whatever he picks, he picks. And then I kind of forget about it. And then when I watch the show or I DVR it at night, wake up in the morning, make a cup of coffee, and I watch Gutfeld. And so the days that I work as a writer, I just kind of watch the opening jokes and the monologue. And if one of my jokes gets in, I think, oh, that's great. It's kind of fun to see if your joke made it.

He sometimes rewrites it. Sometimes, to be honest, he ruins it. He'll ruin my joke, but he'll make it for him. Like, there'll be a way that I think it will work, and Greg will make it work in his way. And I'll say, oh, he didn't, you know, he didn't word it the way I wanted. but okay, whatever. It's still kind of fun that your line inspired

the joke, right? Yeah, it's still kind of fun. And every Friday he does a longer version of the opening jokes and he says if they don't work, he's going to do something horrible to me and he shows my picture. Yeah.

And sometimes I'm like, well, you changed it. You can't blame you. Exactly. That way, if it doesn't work, it's not my fault. So there's a double-edged short. There's some good to when he changes it

and it doesn't work. Yeah. So, I can't even really, I'm not really sure about, do they, does he do jokes every show? I mean, Friday is the big leftover, so he does a couple of minutes of jokes, like what, about 15 jokes or something? Yeah, it's longer on Friday, but he does it, it didn't used to be this way, but now before the monologue, he'll do five or six opening jokes. Yeah. Which is, it's kind of fun, it's kind of light, and it's tough to go straight into a serious monologue with a cold audience. So I think it's a good idea.

It's like it's almost like he's his own warm-up comic. Yeah. And that's just kind of worked in. It was almost never really decided on. But because there's so many jokes, you know, floating around the office, I feel like Greg was like, oh, we have enough jokes, not just for leftovers, but we're going to do some on Thursday. And then he started doing them on Wednesday. And now it's basically like, you know, we've got a monologue set up where he does jokes and then he does the story. right yeah yeah basically we used to just go straight into the straight into the cold monologue and

I love those monologues but sometimes I kind of felt like jokes got missed yeah because the crowd just wasn't used to laughing yet like a because a lot of times they're serious subjects it's very rare they're not so um even even trying to shoehorn jokes in you got to get creative like you can't make fun of a horrible tragedy that was Afghanistan's collapse. So you have to make fun of John Kirby's tie. You know, I'm just throwing out an example. It's hard and it's hard for the audience, too. I think I'm doing panel on the show tonight.

Have you gotten the rundown yet? Yep, yep. We do have it. I'll send it to you. But yeah, we usually get the rundown. First thing in the morning, we all submit stories, hoping to get some ideas for the show because it's very collaborative.

Greg, let's everyone have an input. Like, my bend is probably more populous than anyone else's on the show. My jokes, my sense of humor is pretty dark. Yeah. But Greg takes what he wants. And Joe DeVito, man, that guy's got an endless stream of kind of silly jokes.

Yeah. Which is such a nice contrast. Because a lot of his sort of light and funny and he's great at puns. Yeah. So he makes me laugh. Yeah, yeah. It's different.

And, yeah, it's good to have that kind of different flavor. And then, like you said, Greg will always kind of turn it to his, you know, his way of doing things. But where do you get your stories before? So you're pitching stories for the rundown, essentially. So what do you do? Like, I end up, when I wake up in the morning and I'm on writing staff for the day, I open Apple News, because it's very generic, like Apple News kind of. features the stories of the day, basically.

I open up Drudge Report because, you know, there's a few incendiary headlines, and then there's some kind of weird stories as well. But what other sources do you use to kind of get your ideas for stories? I go to Bongino Report. Yeah. Because there's a whole bunch of different stories.

Sometimes I'll go to Twitchy. Sometimes I'll go to Outkick. The challenge often is trying to find a couple of stories that are light that maybe we could have fun with at the end of the show when we try to take things a little less seriously

because everyone's going to send the Olympic opening ceremony stories so I usually won't even bother with that. Yeah, because you know, like, oh, that's going to be covered. You're looking for some kind of other angles, right? What am I going to submit that no one else is going to submit

is the hope at least? Yeah. So I feel like when we're working as writers on the show, it's kind of like once the A block is done, that's like it's almost you can kind of coast for the rest of the show.

Do you kind of feel that way? Yeah, and usually, and it's not unique to our show. Yeah. Usually you want to do the A block, which if you're, usually a lot of television shows, they section it off into a letter named blocks. Yeah, we got A, B, C, D, D, D. Yeah, it's usually five blocks per hour, so we actually have our A block be longer because we want to get those viewers into the show.

So it's... Yeah, it goes like 20 minutes, right? Yeah, it can. And that's a crazy... amount of time to not interrupt with an ad but we want to we want to get the people to care about what we're talking about yeah and then the rest of the show is kind of riding those coattails yeah and you got what like the five-word story gregg likes those because you don't have to write them you just basically read the five words and then you're off to the discussion yeah and i think

it's kind of inspired by the five where you kind of have to trust the panel at a certain point so it's less dependent on writers and more dependent on just improvisation and funny things happening in a conversation. Yeah. So it takes a little bit of pressure off our tiny writing staff. I think the amazing thing that most people would be surprised by is how much the host of the show has control over the show. Like I think a lot of people in media, they think that there's producers. Now, you guys, you do, you have a lot of power. I mean, you sent me the stuff. You're in more, you guys are more in control of today's show. But when it comes to it, the Will Kane show is like Will Show, right? Like, he's like, this is what we're doing today. This is what I want to

focus on. And it goes, when I got Red Eye, I was amazed at how the, the head honchos at Fox News were like, this is your show. You decide what to do. And then I'm paired with this producer who was a, you know, legit guy. He had been working with Gutfeld and, you know, and he had, he'd worked at, you know, in network TV and he would sit down. And I kind of thought he would be like, okay, this is what we're going to do. And he was like, what do you want to do, Tom? And I'm like, oh, I get to decide. It's like, yeah, you're Tom Shaloo. Yeah. That's the way it should be. It's, it's got your name on it. Yeah. So the only thing that I've only hosted Gutfeld one time. Yeah. And you're right. It's a lot of responsibility. And it's, it's, it's kind of overwhelming to an extent.

because you've got the producer in your ear and you've got four guests. You want to make, part of the thing is just making sure everyone talks. Yes. But the good part is it's like you can kind of personalize a little more because there are people that have Fox News on all day. Yeah. And one of the things that the only time I ever hosted, but I didn't want to have it be just the exact same thing that they'd already heard that like, oh, they pulled off the, I'm sure Google having the, Trump assassination not show up in search results. Yeah.

That's going to be on a lot. So it's like, that's a huge story. Yeah. I actually, we have some shots of that from today, right? Because I thought we would discuss that today. So you think Greg's going to talk about that tonight?

Well, Tyrus is hosting tonight. Okay. So probably, but I wouldn't put it first. Yeah. If it were up to me just because. Because everyone else has talked about it? They saw Martha talk about it.

And maybe they saw Brett mention it. So it's tough to thread that needle. because there are a lot of people that'll see me and they'll be like oh I love you on the five and it's not that they don't watch Gutfeld they do they recognize me

it's just that they have the five on and then Fox News is on they love it so it's on all day so so this thing about the the Google search results with Trump I saw it when it broke yesterday I saw it because of Elon because Elon kind of retweeted something

but I think it was lives of TikTok who broke the story they did the assassination of Donald Trump and it was like like assassination of Donald, T-R-U, and the suggested results were assassination of Truman, right? Yeah. Like, you know, did they even, did anyone really try to assassinate Truman? I guess at some point somebody might have, but.

I have the Elon one up if you look. Oh, you do. Let's pop up the Elon tweet. Okay. No, so this is a different one. It's not the assassination. This is just searching Google, President Donald. And it says President Donald Duck and President Donald Reagan, there's no.

I mean, Donald Reagan was like a chief of staff of Ronald Reagan. But so Trump is being, he's being, you know, ghosted in search results by Google. They're denying it. And they said this, okay, you can take a look at this, tweet this up there. No, go ahead. Put up the tweet about Jared Lee Loeffner. He's the guy who attempted to assassinate Gabby Giffords, right? Right.

So they said, when you put. in assassination of President Trump, nothing appears in the search results because we don't like to promote political violence. So there's automatic, you know, you can find it if you do a search for it, but we're not going to give you auto-correct suggestions. But if you put in Jared Lee Loeffner, it pops up there. If you put in assassination of Gabby Giffords, it shows you a number of choices. It actually starts with, you know, shot Gabby Giffords. Gabby Gifford's shooting, shooting of Gabby Giffords. So the Google is basically not telling the truth.

Well, these mistakes only seem to go one way. And the thing that the thing that irritates me about is that anyone is surprised. These aren't good faith actors. This isn't a mistake. This isn't an accident. They're going to lie again. They're going to double down on their lie again. But like, you're seeing it all over the place.

Suddenly Harris isn't the most, wasn't the most liberal senator in 2019. suddenly she had nothing to do with the border. She wasn't working on it at all. It's like, yeah, they're not going to suddenly start telling the truth. Yeah. It's just like the, I don't know. Why didn't they do it? Like, so Axios sends a, writes a story.

You know, Republicans are lying. They say she was the borders are. She wasn't. And then they write a whole article. And then people say, Axios, is this you? And they show the article saying, you know, welcome our new borders are. Yeah, yeah. We contradict ourselves.

and we have to go back and edit ourselves. So it's like when you get caught in a lie and you have to tell another lie. That's kind of what they're doing. But like there's a lot of people in the world that like if you be like, hey, can you believe that five people would get together and plan a bank robbery?

And they'd be like, well, yeah, that happens all the time. But if they're wearing suits and have a good job and a college degree and you're like, well, can't believe five people would get around and plan to lie to people? People, they're like, no, they're not going to do that. I don't know what it is. I don't, I don't, people just, people have too high of an opinion of humanity.

Yeah. Like, it's a dark thought, but yeah. Well, if they are actually worried, say, take someone at Axios who believes the line that Trump is somehow going to end the United States of America. He's a danger to democracy, right? You know, even going beyond whatever they think about January 6th, they think Donald Trump, is going to somehow change the U.S. government, you're going to stop voting or whatever, the crazy ideas that they think, okay? If they actually believe that that's something Donald Trump's going to do, based on whatever

information, you know, has been fed to them, do you think they would say, okay, the ends justify the means, it's fine to, you know, to ghost Donald Trump in search results because, you know, it's really not hurting anybody. It's just kind of dampening down the ability for Donald Trump, the, you know, the, you know, the insurrection is to get his word out there. Do you think they have a sincere belief that they're doing the right thing? No, but I do think that voters might. So that message could be effective to some voters because you hear that repeated.

And I take, you know, individuals that are consuming this content at their word, that they sincerely think that Donald Trump is going to become a dictator at 79 years. years old for the first time after he he gave up power the first he couldn't even do what he wanted to do his in his first administration because you can't just do stuff and have people go along the military like some generals disobeyed him it seemed like really was playing both sides of the fence at times so it it just seemed to you know recording phone calls and sending them to to congress it just, it seemed like they had their own agenda that was not necessarily his own and just the idea that even Biden could be like, okay, I'm just going to stay in office. There's not

going to be an election. And everyone's just going to go along with that. It doesn't, it's kind of nonsensical. Yeah. Do you think that the, do you think anyone buys any of this stuff anymore? I mean, I happen to be watching a network TV the other day. One of the networks, you know, it was like the news, whatever, the seven o'clock. news or whenever it's on. And they were reporting on Kamala Harris. And it was, you know, it was kind of like a campaign commercial. And it seemed so silly to me. I was looking at it and thinking, well, no one's really buying this, are they? I mean, it's just obvious that this, you know, this network news, you know, this anchor and the reporter that was doing the report

has been captured by the Democratic Party and they're just giving you Soviet-style propaganda. So it seemed kind of funny and quaint to me, but I thought, boy, I wonder if there's anyone out there who still kind of buys this stuff. Do you think anybody, you know, with all this stuff, with Google, with the news bias, you know, when you look at, you know, it's just the fact that even in that debate the other day with Trump and Biden, you know, those were, they were anti-Trump anchors, you know, working the debate. The framework that people see the election through is definitely biased against, you know, Trump and Republicans. It has been for some time. Do you think that there's anybody out there who doesn't realize that at this point? There's a lot of people. They wouldn't do it if it didn't work.

Yeah. And it's like those are the blatant ways that the media is untruthful. There's all kind of ways that they're untruthful that no one really thinks about. And one of the examples I use in a joke. I'm working on about this, is that if birds die in an oil slick, that gets covered. If birds get hit by a windmill, that doesn't. It's like, no one's really telling a lie that the birds were killed in the oil slick. Yeah.

But you lack all the context if you don't cover equally when birds are killed by a windmill. Yeah. So that's another way that you lie. It's like with January 6th versus. all the writing it's like there's so many different ways to to lie but it does work and i remember when trump was elected a comedian i know that's gay was saying oh he's probably going to get rid of all the marriages and and i said well he hasn't really said he's going to do that and you can't do that unilaterally how would he go about that actually yeah it's just uh all the steps that would

have to happen couldn't just happen it would take a monumental effort. I don't even think conservatives would go along with it at this point. I don't think there's the will, but you would have to have a super majority to do it, and then

courts to do it. It just, I just don't think it would happen, but this guy believed it. Yeah. Like, he had been scared into believing that. Yeah, I remember talking to a guy who said, when I look at those Trump rallies, this is a comedy writer, a Jewish guy

from L.A., but he said, oh, Tom, I know you're right wing, but, you know, You seem like one of the good ones. He seemed to, you know, the right wingers that he knows, he seems to think, okay, they're just like, you know, there's something weird about them, but hey, you're a good guy. But he said, but, you know, when I look at those Trump rallies, he said, those people, Tom, they want to kill me. I know they would, if they had a chance, they would kill me. And I'm thinking, like, you really think they would kill you? Yeah.

What are you looking at when you look at a Trump rally? Like, I mean, this is a guy he probably doesn't leave L.A. much, you know. And all the, like, where we can go somewhere else, you can seek out a different viewpoint. If you're not really looking and you're getting the Washington Post and you're getting NPR and you're getting Hollywood and you're getting the New York Times and MSNBC, it's like, who's going to tell you that you're wrong? Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, they will run those things like, you know, I remember like, like, um, You know, when Trump, he said something like, oh, look at that guy.

I'd like to punch him in the face, you know, the thing that De Niro brings up. So someone who's just not tuned in at all, they'll see that, you know, clip played ad nauseum. And they think, oh, that's what Trump likes to do. He likes people punching people in the face. Right. And Biden had said, it's like, oh, if this was high school, I'd take him back behind the, was it the gym or the barn or something. Yeah, it was behind. Yeah, it was behind.

So I'll take him a hide somewhere. I don't know. Like he did with corn pop. Yeah. But Joe, let's plug some. I reinterpret the corn pop story as like corn pop was innocent. And then Joe Biden was just like bothering him because he misunderstood the entire situation. I'm sure of it.

I mean, he always brings it up like the, you know, because there's something to do with cornpop. There was something to do with a greasy chain. Like he grabbed a chain and he took it to corn pop. in some way, and I'm thinking like, I don't like the whole scenario here, Joe, even though you're making it up. Corn Pop was probably a black guy innocently swimming at a pool, and then Joe Fide just like waltzes in, thinking that he's some superhero. Yeah, with the hairy legs.

Got some classic audio, too. Here we go. Corn Pop was a bad dude. This is the way he did. That was at a, he went back to his hometown, and he had a black audience, and he thought that that's the way he's going. going to impress them. The video of him telling those poor kids at the swimming pool that just want to go have

fun, they're wearing their goggles and it's like, we were playing Marco Polo. We have to listen to this. Yeah. Because I thought it was clear from that. I'm like, this guy's detached from reality. And that was years ago. That was years ago. People were like, oh, he had to mention 2020.

I'm like, he had dimension in 2015. Like, oh, there was that debate where he started talking about kids hearing. record players? Oh, yeah. And I was like, what? Yeah, the record play. You got to listen to the record play. They're not listening to the records enough.

Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. Like, if I were one of his competitors, I'd be like, is this guy all right? Do we, but, yeah. Are we going to hear from him? I mean, we have till November. He's supposedly the president, you know, until November, he's going to be the

president of the United States. Are we going to see him speak? Is he going to give another speech? Or is he going to just remain absolutely hidden until he has to give him? up office short speeches like like the one he did at the oval office and uh staged press conferences where he's already got the questions in advance because i like when he did that press conference at the other uh after the debate yeah the one word the same day he called uh zalinski putin and Harris trump yeah uh it seemed monumental and even his supporters seemed to act like it was

monumental for him to stand up there and just talk like people can like like politicians I don't think are that bright or intelligent. I'm like, well, yeah, they could answer questions for an hour. But for Biden, it just seemed like this, it seemed like landing on the moon for him. And yeah, they're going to, they're going to keep him as bottled up as they can. Yeah. Okay, let's plug some dates for Joe Mackey. First of all, your guest hosting on Friday?

I'm guest hosting on Friday. I am off the road on August for August, but go to joe macky.com. or my Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook. I always posted my dates, and I got a lot of road work this fall. Oh, wait, Friday. So that's August 2nd, right? Yeah, August 2nd. I'm going to host on the first.

I'm going to be, I'm guest hosting for Gutfeld on Thursday. I've got to follow your... Yeah, big shoes for Shaloo, right? Yep. So the, this is Joe Mackey, go see some live shows. I'm going to be plugging my dates when I host the show. That's where you always get some good, you know. Right. I am doing a show with Cat Timp on Sunday the 4th, so I should plug that.

What is? Is it a live show? It was a live show at the City Winery in Manhattan. There's a lot of Gutfeld fans in Manhattan. I did my solo show with the City Winery. It's a nice place, nice theater. I did the upstairs one. Are you doing the main room? I think it's probably the main room, not sure. I bet you're doing the big room, you and Cat, filling those big seats. I did the room upstairs, but it's a great kind of very artsy room where people can have wine and it's very sophisticated.

Yeah. So that's great. Joe Mackey, I'm going to let you go, and then we're going to come back with our closing remarks, but this was great to spend some time with you here, Joe. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. You've got to get back and punch up Gutfeld's monologue. Someone's got to make this show funny, and it's not Joe DeVito.

Yeah, exactly. Joe Mackey, thanks for being here on the Will Kane show. I'm Tom Shaloo filling in for Will, and we'll be right back. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week.

Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Tom Shaloo, back on the Will Kane show, filling in for Will.

And we had a great day with Joe Mackey. I want to take a look at some of your comments for the day because as a guest host, I want to see how I'm doing. Any reviews on here? First of all, anything negative, anyone being like, this guy stinks, get him, get rid of them. Absolutely not. There's not much negative. I don't know if this is a negative. Someone said you looked like you, Tom Shaloo, look like.

you, Tom Shaloo, look like a mix between Christopher Walken and Ed Norton. Oh, yeah. Oh, there you go. That's a positive. Yeah, well, Chris, everybody does a Chris Wawking in person. I don't really do Chris. How does he, he talks like this, right? Like there's a period at the end of every.

You know, this watch. This watch was my father's watch. Yeah. I could do it. I can do him. That's good. And, yeah, oh, that's it. You know, I never got Ed Norton.

But maybe because, you know, I got the side part on hair today. There's a few Ed Norton's in the chat here. Oh, interesting. What about the burn notice guy? People used to say a burn notice. I could see that one. I see that one. I forget that guy's name, Moriarty or something. Yeah, I don't even know that one. But yeah, at least it's not, you know. People were also mentioning about the Google and Google and Trump. They were doing it as the show was on and saying someone Googled Donald Trump. And the first thing that came up was an article about Kamala Harris. Oh, that's right. If you Google Donald Trump and you forget about the, the autocorrect search.

Yeah. Just a straight search of Donald Trump. I'm going to do it right here on my phone right now. Donald. Live time. Trump. And yeah. Okay.

News stories. Kamala Harris. Picture of Kamala Harris. Exactly. Picture of Kamala. One, two, three. And it's the, you have to go down to the fourth story before you get Donald Trump. And what's the story?

Trump loses it over devastating Fox News poll on Kamala Harris. You got to love it. It's really interesting. I mean, that's what, you know, the people are talking about. Someone said Google's always, you know, not telling the truth, usually. Yeah, I mean, this is the kind of thing that if we didn't have, you know, people keep praising Elon Musk. I mean, the guy's no right-wing Republican, you know, he just, he went, since he took over X, he's been, he's gone a little bit further to right. Obviously, he endorsed Donald Trump.

but his real contribution to the right has been the fact that he's keeping X a free speech platform. And I actually don't really love his, you know, the AI stuff that's been going on with X. Do you guys use X? It's the thing I use all the time. I used to a lot more because I worked in sports media and it was where breaking news happened. And I haven't. And also, what do you call it? You don't tweet anymore.

You X? I still say tweet. I still say tweet. I say X. Like I said, oh, Elon Musk on X said this. And then I say, and then somebody retweeted it. You know, I'm not going to say they re-Xed it. It sounds stupid.

It sounds stupid. Yeah. But the thing is that he's got this grok now, which does the headlines. So you sign on to X, and it summarizes the news. And it's, it has a kind of a way of, because it's AI, if people do, for instance, in this past weekend, all the people on the left are talking about J.D. Vance. So it's like J.D. Vance comes out for, you know, you know, says childless women are. are sad or whatever. J.D. Vance, first of all, he didn't say anything because the people on Twitter are

bringing up an interview that he did three years ago. But the AI program on X kind of amplifies the nonsense stories that are coming out. So I'm a little bothered by the way that, you know, these algorithms they will basically buy into the fake news right off the bat, you know. I feel like they're trying to do a little too much. It used to be such a simple platform. You get your words out there. You say what you think.

You get an argument or, you know, compliment somebody, which is very rare. But I think they're just trying to do a little too much. Yeah. It's kind of like bogging it down a little bit. Exactly. And we don't want the robots taking over. But Elon does. Like Elon definitely wants to be, he kind of wants to be half robot.

He wants to put a chip in your brain. So he's got a lot of, like, weird, you know, ideas that kind of verge on the, globalist nightmare. But at the same time, he's great. And so we got to take our victories where we can. He's definitely for free speech. And if we didn't have people on X correcting the world in real time, I mean, it's not something you do on Google. Like, the Google search results are there. It's not as if some, you know, right winger can change the fact that Kamala Harris comes up when you search Donald Trump. Yeah, unless it's a Wikipedia page. That's better. Yeah, so it's like the only thing you can do is basically find your platform and try to correct information as it happens.

Is Zuckerberg doing the same thing in this election as he did the last time? Because he put literally like hundreds of millions of dollars into, you know, the election. And that means he was trying to fortify. He said it was to, you know, increase turnout. Well, it was to increase turnout in certain areas where he knew the debt. that Democrats would be, right? Does he think he's going to get away with that same thing this time around? He's putting committed notes on the Trump photo with the hand in the air and the fist and saying

there's chances that this could be digitally altered and there's tons of screenshots of it. Zuckerberg's doing that. And he's also turning down the amount of politics there are on Facebook just in general, but that could be because Facebook is a place where a lot of older voters might start to lean further to the rights. So just by doing that, he's tamping that part of Facebook. influenced down. It's quite amazing. Zuckerberg is very suspect. And the example I always use is that when we were coming out of COVID, I mean, it was like two years, this whole world was shut down. We came out of COVID and then the comedy clubs opened back up again. I was playing a comedy club

in Connecticut. Which one? That's where I'm from. Oh, yeah, it was the stress factory in Bridgeport. Love that one. And so Vinnie Brand, I know him, he's got the stress factory in New Jersey. He said, hey, do you want to come out? You can be one of the first guys to come back because, you know, they finally allowed me to reopen the club. I think they were able to open Jersey before Connecticut, but then they opened Connecticut

and I went and did a weekend there. So I posted on Facebook, guys, come out and see me, and I said, this is a real live show, not a virtual show. So I put the poster up on the thing. Facebook put a warning on there, and they said that, yeah, that people essentially shouldn't go

to see me. Because Facebook, at the time, time, they were all charged up about, you know, maybe we can go, you know, make it so that nobody does live shows anymore. Everyone has to do their stupid shows on Facebook. That's interesting. I didn't think about that. Yeah.

That's kind of smart because it, they created such platforms with like, you know, even Zoom and things like that. Yeah. They made a ton of money with this online. Yeah. And they were like, Zoom and Zuckerberg would just be happy if, you know, live performance was totally dead. So even though the state dragged its feet and New Jersey.

and Connecticut, they waited as long as they could, and finally they allowed live shows, but even after the state said it was okay to do live shows, Zuckerberg was like, you know, and he wouldn't let me put, you know, advertising on it. So essentially, I said, I wanted to pay Facebook, because when I do live shows, I'll pay Facebook five, ten bucks, you know, in each city just to boost my, my ads for the show. They wouldn't take my money, because they would say this show is in violation of our safety rules or whatever, doing a live show. And they're like, good luck go promote somewhere else. Yep.

Yeah. Have fun with that. Yeah. Yeah. Very sad. Yeah. Well, guys, we're going to do this again, right? Because, you know, I passed the test.

You guys think, you know, I'm okay at this job. Yes. I'm no Will Kane. I'm no Willie Kane, right? No Willie Kane. But the viewers seem to think that I got at least. least like a what, a B minus? I would say a little higher than that.

Okay. So you're going to have to, you know, tomorrow just get that grade up. Yeah. Well, you know, it's like I said, it's basically muscle memory. And I remember when I first started doing radio, I was like, how am I going to do this? How am I going to yap for three hours? Fill time. Yeah, it's hard.

But then in the end, it's like, oh, well, this is what I do every day anyway. It's not as if I'm not talking all day about all of this nonsense. And I'll tell you one thing, an hour just went by really fast. You must have been doing a great job. Exactly. All right. Well, this is Tom Shaloo. This is the Will Kane show.

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