Will Cain Country - Bill Hemmer, Brian Kilmeade, Jersey Jerry, & Guy Benson: The Left's Insane Reaction To Another Trump Presidency
Episode Date: November 7, 2024In another action-packed Election Week Special episode of The Will Cain Show, the Left, especially the late night comedy cadre, is having an insane meltdown over the election of now President Elect D...onald J. Trump as the 47th President of the United States. Also, conservatism is now cool, frat, and 'in' for young men. The GOP is making inroads everywhere. Is the coalition built to last? Breaking it all down with the Host of ‘America’s Newsroom,’ Bill Hemmer, the Host of ‘The Brian Kilmeade Show’ on FOX News Radio, Co-host of ‘FOX & Friends,’ and Host of ‘One Nation with Brian Kilmeade,' Brian Kilmeade, the host of ‘Jerry After Dark’ on Barstool Sports, Jersey Jerry, and the Host of ‘The Guy Benson Show’ on Fox News Radio, Guy Benson. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, meltdown, an absolute travesty, the election of Donald Trump as 47th president of the United States.
Two, conservative is cool, conservative is frat, conservative as young man, GOP is Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
Republicans are working class.
are Republicans forever?
Three, Jersey, Jerry, Brian Kilmeet, Guy Benson, Bill Himmer.
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that together with you hit subscribe to the will cane show even though alessandra lego over there on
youtube it's been an incredible week it hasn't been that way for everyone can we all just take a
moment grab your coffee grab your beer grab your water and let's just pour one out for jimmy
let's be honest it was a terrible night last night it was a terrible night for women for children
for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants who make this country go um for health care
for our climate for science for journalism for justice for free speech it was a terrible night
for poor people for the middle class for seniors who rely on social security for our
allies in Ukraine for NATO for the truth and democracy and decency. And it was a terrible
night for everyone who voted against him. And guess what? It was a bad night for everyone
who voted for him, too. You just don't realize it yet. Sad. And that litany of people that
have had such a bad week, I noticed he did leave out one important group. Two-a-days, Dan,
young establishment James Tinfoil Pat, I need to check in really quickly because
Because I feel that Jimmy Kimmel's neglected important constituency that's having a bad week.
Two of a day's, how's the breakfast, the brunch crew going?
How's the Brooklyn brunch crew?
Are they holding up this week?
There's been a meltdown in the Brooklyn brunch crew, you know.
Everyone's just very sad.
No.
Yeah, very sad.
It's a very sad week for everyone that I go to brunch with and are friends with.
Extra.
Yeah, not fans of Trump and just very sad.
Extra mimosas in Brooklyn this week.
Let's make sure.
It's on me, guys.
It's on me.
You're going to buy around.
You're going to buy around.
I'll buy around.
Yeah,
but it's on me.
That's going to be nice for the Brooklyn brunch crew.
We feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel and the Brooklyn brunch crews this week.
But we are going to have a little bit of fun today.
We're going to have a little bit of a celebration,
but also not without a little bit of intelligence and analysis.
And for that,
we get started right away.
He is the host of America's Newsroom here on the Fox News Channel.
He's the man on the board.
He's the man working the counties across.
United States. He is Bill Himmer. What's up, Bill? How you doing, Will? Good to be back with you and
a good day to you. I'm doing okay. I'm not in Brooklyn. But, Bill, you're a big spin class guy,
yoga class guy. I see you walking around in your athleisure from time to time. There could be
some rough moments here when they're yelling for you to step up the spin rate. You know, it might be
with a little extra sadness. Been a couple years since I've been to spin, but I do like an occasional hot
yoga room. It helps to chill everything out a little bit. Yeah, you know what's interesting about
that premise about how people are reacting? I was talking with a colleague of mine earlier today,
and she's younger than I am and hasn't been through a lot of elections. But I've been through
a ton of elections in New York for more than 20 years. There were so few protests prior to this
election. I don't know why. It's almost like a metronome on the piano, Will. In New York,
It's like every two years, especially over four years.
Now, the George Floyd protests were significant here in New York City.
But, you know, if you want to get a crowd together for just about any cause, you can do that here.
But it didn't happen.
And the only thing I can think is that maybe it was the Middle East issue with a heavy Jewish population here in New York
and a very liberal population as well, that, you know, those two sides are at a bitter opposite ends of the Israel's last.
God's a issue. I think that's a good theory. I think it's a good theory, Bill, and that one is
reflected in the fact that, shockingly, Donald Trump won 30% of New York City. And you have to
assume that issue played a big role. And we should point out for maybe some that don't have
historical context, that's a huge gain in New York City for a Republican and for Donald Trump
to go to 30% New York City. I have two other theories, Bill. I want to run them by you.
One theory is that the hyperbole that he is a Nazi and that's the end of our democracy wasn't
ever even truly believed by those that said it.
Because if they did believe it, they'd be headed for the airports.
They'd be headed for the southern border going in the opposite direction towards Costa Rica.
They didn't actually believe that.
And so today, there's no reason for outrage on the streets of New York City.
My other theory, Bill, is you're a sports fan.
If the Bengals lose by four on a controversial call in the last 60 seconds of the game,
you're outraged.
You're yelling at the umps.
You're yelling at the NFL.
But if you get blown out, as you have in some Super Bowls Bill in Cincinnati, 42 to 7, then you, it's true.
You had a close one against the Niners.
We have three close ones.
Two against San Francisco and one against the L.A. Rams.
Continue as you were.
But you know how it feels to get blown out.
And when you get blown out, 42 to 7, the truth is you don't have outrage.
You're just depressed.
Yeah.
Two things I would add on our Fox News voter analysis.
We've got 110,000 people in all 56.
States. In 24, sorry, in 2020, Donald Trump won 37% of Jews in New York. In 2024, he won
46. That's real close, real close to split in that vote. Yeah. You know, Mr. Wonderful,
Kevin O'Leary? So, on election night, we're cruising through. It's past midnight. The time's just
flying by. You're thinking and you're working really fast.
Maybe it was 1.30 in the morning. He comes out and sits in the set and they ask him a question
about finance or something like that. He said, you know, if you're changing your quarterback,
what you want to do is make sure you see how that quarterback performs in practice and how they take
snaps and maybe have a few preseason games. Because if that quarterback's not up to snuff with what
you need to get done for your team. You got some other options on the bench that you can put
in. I thought it was like, it was the metaphor that I understood about Harris in the campaign
that was run for 107 days. I was listening to her speech yesterday. Look, it's really hard,
whether you get blown out or whether you win or lose by a whisker. It's hard, right?
It was hard for Joe Biden to come out an hour ago. It was hard for her to come out yesterday
afternoon. But she just doesn't open the door a lot to who she is as a person. And it was
mostly language of platitudes and really rhetorical flourish that really didn't land. And I thought
it was emblematic of maybe the way the campaign was run for her. Well, Bill, you're so good
at geography and you're so good at looking at the maps that I want to ask you a serious
question and then a little bit more fun question about a map. So on the serious question,
I hear you talking about the limitations of Kamala Harris. My big takeaway bill has been, yes,
in some part a rejection of the left and a rejection of Kamala Harris as an individual.
But I feel like this has also been a massive embrace of Donald Trump. And I think so much of
what he represents and now even his personality. And for me, some of that has reflected,
Bill, and the fact that Trump got closer to winning New York than Kamala did.
to winning Texas. Trump got closer to winning New Jersey than Kamala did to winning Florida. And I do
wonder, as you look at that map, so much talk about flipping Texas purple or whatever it may be,
you think there's a future where a New York or a New Jersey is actually red?
I want to say yes, because America's in a constant realignment. And we've stayed in that in places
like Georgia and Arizona to a lesser degree and a little bit North Carolina to a lesser
degree. But, you know, there's always changes and shifts. Look at Ohio. You know, Ohio went
8-8 for Trump, and this time it was like 11.5. Florida's just an absolute blowout for the
red team. Yeah, I guess it's always possible, but I think you need a transformational politician
to do it. The other thing you need is you've got to be right on the policies. You know,
last hour we were hosting and listening to Biden's comments there.
He said, we're leaving the strongest economy in the world.
Well, 70% of voters on Tuesday said the United States is on the wrong track.
And that could be a financial reason.
That could be a cultural reason.
We were with Speaker Johnson last week, and I was trying to get to the bottom of the gender divide at the time and the abortion issue at the time.
And he really didn't give an answer on that.
It's not because I don't think you didn't know.
I just don't think you want to get nailed down on it.
I want to talk to a buddy of mine, Hogan Gittley, he's been around the Trump team for a number of years.
And I said, am I on to something with his abortion question, the gender gap?
And he said, you know what, Bill?
You know what we have found?
Now, this is a week before the vote, okay?
This is like one of those data points.
Well, when you have these conversations throughout your day, you're like, oh, yeah, I remember that now.
Oh, and the result was X.
That's the reason.
And Gidley says, you might be right, Bill.
But what we're finding is that in the suburbs, mothers are worried about the transgender issue.
in a significant way.
And people aren't picking up on that
because they don't want their daughters
to be in a locker room
with a person of the other sex.
And he said, there's a reason why
we put more money into that transgender ad
with Kamala Harris than any other ad.
I think you know the one I'm talking about.
Anyway, as I look back right now,
I think what he said makes a lot of sense to me.
Do you, Bill, is there a point in the nine?
where you saw on Tuesday night one particular county or one particular state where you decided
or you saw early, this is going to be what really honestly not many predicted, which was not
just a victory for Donald Trump, but a landslide blowout that looks like it could be, what,
312 electoral votes for Donald Trump?
I think it's the golden question.
I think it's a great one.
I appreciate you asking me that because I'd love to have the opportunity to answer it.
Britt Hume asked me that question at 1030 at night.
I said, Britt, I'm going to try to be fair here, okay?
All right. So I can go to a couple places right now in the metro Atlanta area. She's doing a point or two better, okay, than Joe Biden did four years ago. And that's where the population center is. I said, but I can go to a lot of places and other battleground states and find good news for him. Specifically, what comes to mind is a tiny little rural county on the North Carolina, South Carolina border. It's called Anson County, A-N-S-O-N.
This is, I don't know why you're laughing, but this is.
I'm going to tell you.
Okay, this is a county.
That's about 47% African American and it's rural.
And they have gone.
They've gone Republican one time since 1876.
And this past Tuesday was the second time they had ever voted for the red team.
And that's another one of these data points.
Eight years ago, we were like, you know what, you know, Hillary Clinton,
She's got this huge lead in the polls, and does Trump really have a chance?
A lot of people expressed in all this skepticism that even he didn't think they could win.
On election, I'm from Ohio, so it's the state I knew the best.
In 2016, there are three or four counties in the Upper Northeast section of Ohio from Lake Erie down the Pennsylvania border.
It's like Ashtabula County, Trumbull County, Mahoning County, which is Youngstown.
Growing up, I had never seen a Republican win in those counties in my lifetime, all right, before I was born.
going back, as I said, 80 years. And those counties were leaning red very early in the night.
And I said, folks, there's something going on out here. I said, I don't know what it means.
I know what the outcome is. But I'm just telling you right now, he's in the game and he's got a chance because of what I see right here.
Your story. So I saw that about Anson County, North Carolina, 40% black went for Trump.
The reason I started laughing, Himmer, is because your ability to call on random states, random counties in the United States is unparalleled. I have no idea.
have returned there at 1211 Avenue in America is on the 15th floor of Fox News.
But I have a graphic up here in Dallas, Texas Home Studios.
Now, pay no attention to what this graphic is trying to represent, but it's showing the 20
indicator counties across the United States.
It's pointing out that in 2020, Trump won them all.
And it's the only time, by the way, that a future president-elect didn't win one of
these 20 counties.
That's not the point of me showing you this.
My point is I wanted to ask Bill a random county.
I hope that's too small for you to see Bill.
I'm not going to zoom in because I don't want any help here.
I just, here's a quick quiz.
Here's a quick quiz for Bill Himmer.
I'm going to name a county.
And these are politically significant counties, but somewhat around.
I just want to see if you can tell me what state that county's in.
Can you do it?
Will you play, Bill?
I bet some of the counties are named twice for different states.
But, yeah, I mean, you know what I felt like?
Brett was like, let's poke around, Bill.
And he was like calling out counties.
I mean, I think in the end I got lucky.
But give it a whirl.
Let's see what we get.
To your point, Bear puts you in a tougher spot than Will Kane.
He's asking you to visually locate the county amidst all of the other random
boxes on a map.
Okay, I'm going to, well, here's, I can blow the reputation entirely right now,
but still, I love the game.
Go for it.
Okay.
Well, this is a layup line to start.
So I want to get you warm.
I want to get you hot.
See if you can make sure you can make a few buckets before us to have you start
bombing beyond the arch.
I want you to light that camera for me in the end.
Wood County, Wood County.
There's got to be a lot of Wood counties, but this is a marker county.
Yeah, Wood County.
There is a Wood County in Ohio.
Boom!
I think it's around the Toledo area, I do believe.
Look at that.
Okay.
He's hot.
It's his home state.
Let's just let it make sure he's hitting nothing but net.
What about Ottawa County?
Ottawa County.
There is an Ottawa.
I hope you don't go to Texas.
Texas, because you guys got like 13,000.
There is an Ottawa County in Michigan.
It runs along Lake Michigan.
It's west of Kent County, I do believe, and just south of Muskegon, but on the water there.
Rimmed out.
That's Ottawa County, Ohio, I'm referencing.
I give you a little bit of grace because there's multiple of some of these counties.
Okay, he's still going to be confident.
Okay, go ahead.
He's going to start backing up, though.
Let's back it up a little bit.
Let's check out the mid-range game.
What about Juneau County?
Juneau County.
The hint on this, again, is these are counties that have been predictive of the outcome of the presidential race.
Yeah, but I could go to Clayland County and Washington State and say that they've nailed the winner for 100 years with the exception of 1968 and 1976.
And Juneau, I don't know, you know, I mean, other than the city of Alaska, you nailed me on that.
Okay. Juneau, Wisconsin. Juneau, Wisconsin.
And I'm trying to one more.
Sorry. Sorry. What's the claim to fame for Juno?
Same as, by the way, you randomly picked another county on my list.
That's Clowellum County, Washington, and has been predictive of the president returns on the night.
So I'm still going to back him out.
All right, if I asked you Calhoun County, that's too much of a layup.
That's too easy, right?
Yes. I want to say, yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
Where did you determine this list?
I just scrolled across my feed, and I wanted to see how I had no doubt.
I had no doubt of two things.
One, my producer said, do you think Himmer will like it if you put him in a position that doesn't get it right?
I said, if Himmer takes himself that seriously, he's not the guy I've ever interacted with or met or wrote a Super Bowl bus with or has a home on the Will Kane show.
No, let me tell you.
And second, I just knew.
I come from a big family.
I had a lot of siblings.
If you can't, if you don't have tough skin in that house, you might as well just stay home.
And the other is I knew you'd nail a lot of this.
I know you would know.
I've never seen anybody randomly be able to pull up a county on the map as adeptly as
Bill Himmer.
It's incredible.
Your geographic.
I'm jealous.
I'm also, I feel like this is something I could be good at.
I do love myself some geography.
But I'm just, I'm impressed.
impressed. Well, thank you, brother. I appreciate that. Um, sorry, sorry about Juno. I feel like a
failure. And I really want to grab my iPhone and go to chat GPT right now. You are our resident
chat GPT on election night and every day from starting at 9 a.m. Eastern Time on America's
newsroom. Bill Hammerman, are always welcome on the Will Kane show. Thank you so much for being here today.
I speak with you. Good luck to your Cowboys, always. We're going to step aside here for
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All right. I'm going to need that luck. I'm going to need that luck. But so, you know, I mean,
I'm not the only one that's going to need some luck this, this season. I give you, let's all send
some well wishes and luck to Stephen Colbert.
Well, it happened again. After a bizarre and vicious campaign fueled by a desperate need
not to go to jail, Donald Trump has won the 2024 election.
The deep
Almost like you rehearsed that
The deep shock and sense of loss is enormous
Okay, but let's look at the bright side
This way at least there'll be a peaceful transfer of power
Mike Pence
Ali Ali Oxenfree
All day yesterday I was walking around
Proudly wearing my I voted sticker
Today I wore my
I am questioning my fundamental belief in the goodness of humanity sticker
They give those out
It is shocking, by the way
You know, it's not that
It's not that infused with comedy anyway
So it is shocking though
How much antipathy has been revealed
About your fellow man
You know, about Latinos
Oh my God, all of a sudden now Latinos are racist
About black men, how could black men be so misogynistic
About the goodness of your fellow neighbor
And their hatred towards women
About just the failings of America
I guess they just believe all it's going to take is a little more condescension.
And when we're looking for condescension here on the Wilcane show,
we always go to the host of the Brian Kilmead Show,
the host of Fox and Friends,
who has a unique ability to make us all feel a little more stupid.
Good morning, Brian.
I didn't know I had that gift.
And I know I always take an inventory of my gifts.
Did not know I had that, but I'm going to add that.
What are your gifts?
As you've taken inventory and you're brushing your teeth at 2.30 a.m.
ready to head into Manhattan for Fox and Friends,
and you're doing your Stuart Smalley affirmations.
I'm good enough.
I'm strong enough.
What are your gifts that you rattle off in your inventory?
One, I'm a wordsmith.
That is, my vocabulary astounds me on a daily basis.
One, my ability to get better looking every day.
Usually I look in and I go, it happen again.
And just the way everyone seems to like me.
And I guess, you know, it's not that I do anything special.
I'm just me.
But besides that, I'm relatively humble.
Brian, when I was on last Monday with you on Fox and Friends from Yankee Stadium,
I gave Lawrence a hard time.
I don't know if you heard about this.
I gave Lawrence a hard time about not knowing baseball,
which I was kind of honestly a shot in the dark because I didn't know that Lawrence didn't know baseball.
I didn't either.
You know, it was the 6.30 a.m. hour and I'm like, I'm just going to have a little fun.
Because that's what I do.
You know, if I like you, I make fun of you.
If I don't like you, I don't make fun of you because I don't really talk to you much.
I got a voicemail, Brian, from a viewer of Fox and Friends, very, very angry with me about how dare I embarrass Lawrence on national television, the only person of color, how dare I throw him under the bus, and that she had written several sternly worded emails to everyone in power at Fox, good day.
So, um, you know, it's, uh, the ability, it's,
Hey, well, I get that with Gutfeld.
By the way, Gutfeld always had fun.
I don't really care.
Well, that's what I was going to ask you.
Yeah.
Doesn't bother me.
I was at a diner on, in North Carolina on Tuesday, Brian, and people were saying,
why does everybody make fun of Brian?
Like, why do you guys all give Brian a hard time?
What's up with Gutfeld?
And I said, it's because everybody likes Brian.
Like, where, I mean, are you guys ever been in a locker room?
Like, have you ever been around dudes whatsoever?
However, you make fun of people that you like.
Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing, especially in an environment that allows it.
And you got to see the breaks.
It's mercilessly.
And, you know, in the breaks, we go back and forth.
So, I mean, one of the funniest people that's underappreciated is Ainsley.
I don't know if you fully understand that she has an unbelievable sense of humor.
Most people think she's very serious and very nice.
And she's, well, we don't think she's nice.
You and I do not think she's nice.
Let's be honest.
She said, but she has a great sense of humor.
Talk about sense of humor.
You just played Stephen Colbert.
It's unbelievable.
I just did that on radio.
Stephen Colbert had a cold open where he said, we've had a terrible day.
Like it was 9-11.
Jimmy Kimmel was crying.
His voice was breaking.
And then you have Jay Leno on the talk saying, I came up an environment where we just made fun of both sides.
We didn't really get involved.
Right.
It's crazy what's going on.
The lack of self-awareness.
you know and Brian I mean they're doubling down like and when I say they I want to be representative
I don't know how much is just the crazy outlier left and how much is the mainstream thought
process of the left but for example Latinos men are racist or Latinos at general are racist
towards towards that I mean that was forwarded yesterday by Al Sharpton and Joe Scarborough
yeah so that's not just great well maybe that is the crazy left but you know it's like
we're going to quadruple down and now we're going to go after minorities for being racist
You know, at one point, the executive's got to sit there, close the door, and just say, guys, this is 300 electoral votes plus.
This is, he improved in every minority where we're doing the impossible.
We're alienating just about everybody at one time.
This is not good for our business model.
This is a mandate.
You know, I played John Himes, Congressman Himes from Connecticut.
He said, you know, we used to come out and say, well, he wasn't a popular vote.
There was controversy with his election.
every election he lost the house they lost the Senate he's a loser and now he became a winner
and we have to realize that he's got he flipped the Senate and he's about to hold the house
and he just had a landslide victory we have to reevaluate my hope is the late night guys
reevaluate and you know if they think it's funny to continue to do that and and other people
just say you know I don't like his immigration policy I don't like I love sanctuary cities
as opposed to Donald Trump's a terrible person because no one's listening to the
anymore will they can't even they they know for a fact their opinion so matter that's that's the
big takeaway from me brian they long lost credibility but now they've lost influence no one is
even listening and on the late night front they won't pivot because it's too ingrained in their
identity and honestly it gives an opening to a guy like gutfield that's why he's doing so well
coming up a little bit later here on the will cane show i'll be joined by stephen a smith and
you know what i may ask him that because stephen a openly said he wants to host a late night
show probably at a bc because he already works for disney like what would his approach be to this
tonight i'd be curious to know from stephen a here's another good example brian um take a look at this
this is up in my studios in dallas ellie mistle is a a legal analyst and i'm not sure for what network
and i'm not sure from what law school but he's the absolute dumbest legal analyst that i've ever
encountered or come across um his intellect only matched by his hair and he tweeted out people saying
harris should have done joe rogan are missing the point that wouldn't have helped her
Liberals need to build their own Joe Rogan in all caps,
somebody who can speak to the people he speaks to
without being a guy who wants to kiss ass
to billionaires like Elon Musk.
Brian, I thought liberals did have a Joe Rogan.
His name was Joe Rogan,
and they drove him off like everyone else in America.
Like they drove off Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is a liberal, number one.
He considered himself mostly liberal on issues
until they vilified him when he bought Axon exposed to the Twitter files.
But you're 100% right.
Joe Rogan, I had no idea.
All I heard was that he wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders.
I had no idea where he stood.
He had disparaging things against Trump for the longest time.
Do you remember, Will, what he said?
When asked, are you going to interview Donald Trump about a year and a half ago?
He said, no, because he would help him.
And then little by little, the more he found out, the more he was targeted, somehow he would have to answer that question.
He evolved.
And he just said, I actually didn't know until the day before the election, how he would have voted.
know what he does? He goes, I don't want to do an interview. I just want to have a conversation
with her. And if you're afraid to have a conversation with a guy with no notes, who's not
going to prepare, he's going to talk generally about things, and then see where the conversation
goes. That's problematic. You know, people have tried to seeing the eulogy of traditional
cable news and seeing the praises of things like this show, the Will Kane show, and
terms of digital distribution for quite some time.
And I actually think, Brian, it's being overplayed a little bit.
Fox got 10 million viewers on election.
By the way, Fox just crushed everybody else.
Did you see the numbers, Brian?
Yeah.
Forget cable, broadcast, like CBSNBC, it crushed them, doubled their numbers, doubled their numbers,
and then I'm shocked at how few people are turning into CNN, for example, MSNBC beat CNN.
But the point I'm getting at is it's still a mass audience.
It still matters.
And the podcast value only comes in if what podcasts in long form digital content allow you do
is to reveal your personality and who you are and some depth.
If you don't have that, those things would work against you.
And that's why she couldn't do Joe Rogan or any other podcast.
And that's going to be a lesson for every other politician going forward.
I don't know if you listen to J.D. Vance on Joe Rogan, but he was awesome.
But every politician has to, it's not going to be, I guess next time we better make sure we do Aiden Ross.
it's going to be, hey, how would you do on bussing with the boys?
That's the real question.
Yeah, I mean, there's two separate skill sets.
Number one, when you want to find out, reveal your personality,
I would start off with podcasts.
And then I would say, you know, I'm going to do 60 minutes.
I'm going to do that four-minute hit on CNN or Fox.
And then you mix it in with jean shirt, sitting back.
Let's have a conversation.
It's going to be part of the mix.
You're really going to know people.
I do remember when Bill Clinton put on the dark glasses and played saxophone on Arsenio Hall.
and then went to MTV and answer the question,
boxers and briefs.
And that was controversial.
Now it's almost necessary.
But, like, for example,
I heard J.D. Vance with the Nelke boys
before I really knew him that well,
you just get him scattershot everywhere,
and you get an interesting person.
However, when they first rolled him out,
and they found out he said about cats
and all those other things,
that only comes out in a podcast.
You don't say that in four minutes.
You don't say that in five minutes.
You say that after all,
And generally, these are the people that don't like me.
They do this, this, and this.
And then all of a sudden, boom.
You do that.
MSNBC's, yeah.
MSNBC has their lead.
So you do have to be careful.
But there's no doubt about it.
If you can't do the lifestyle interviews, you can't do it.
You can't run.
But on the whole be careful thing, Brian, I just want to push back or have this conversation
with you for one moment.
That's old school politics.
Like, oh, my God, let's play defense.
Let's walk on thin eyes.
Let's talk about or be afraid of what could be used again.
us. And I do think Donald Trump is a unique figure that is Teflon compared to some of that stuff.
He doesn't get hit. But I think there's also a lesson from here. The media acted like
Tony Hinchcliff's joke at Madison Square Garden was an absolute difference maker in this election.
And it absolutely was not. I believe I have this right. Late Breaking Latino and maybe even
Puerto Rican vote went Donald Trump. The point is running scared and afraid what you might say
doesn't have the downside of showing who you are if you are good and likable on the upside.
Right. I mean, make sure you're not drinking. I mean, Bill Moore's drinking. I mean, Bill Moore
over that show, they're getting high and they're drinking. So are you 100% right? As long as you're
sober, you're not exhausted. Where you go, why did I say that? As long as it's what you believe,
it's okay. And by the way, if you believe, do you remember who is the one who is running the Dodgers?
President of the Dodgers revealed his view on race
and on nightline with Ted Cople.
Alex Campanis, Campanis.
I don't know if you guys remember the story.
He revealed his view on race on a late night show.
Well, that might have come out before in meetings
and no one said anything.
Well, when he revealed it to Ted Cople on network television,
it destroyed his career.
So if you do have holes in your personality
that need to be exposed,
it will be exposed.
But if you're comfortable who you are and your views...
Honestly.
And in the end, that's what's kind of happened to you.
I mean, 20 years, three hours a day, everyone's seen your holes.
And that's why you get made fun of to answer the people in North Carolina.
Like, you've shown too much and we can all see.
And the question about your drinking has not yet been resolved.
Like, is Brian telling us this because he knows the cost of drinking at 3 a.m.
When you wake up, not when you're going to bed.
I would say this.
The good news about doing the morning show, well, you can attest to this,
it's really you can't do it with some any type of addiction right i mean you cannot do it because you
know how oh he went to work drunk again no he was out all night and that lasts about a week so
so i remember the story in new york was they used to have a great six o'clock broadcast and then
they go drink in between six and eleven and the 11 o'clock would be wild at eyewitness news in
new york city because he'd go out and have a few drinks really yeah like we couldn't possibly
If we had an addiction, we wouldn't be able to have the job too long.
So it's going to be hard.
We're going to have to wait until we retire to get fired in order to get addicted to some type of substance.
That's the downside.
We can't do it now.
Yeah.
I mean, you could be a special kind of alcoholic that gets his night's sleep and then starts drinking at 3.30 in the morning.
You could do that.
I don't think that's been done.
It's a tough.
It would explain a little bit.
It would explain some appearances on Pete Hegsat.
I mean, Pete might be that.
He might be that person.
He might be our guy to put this entire theory to the test.
Pete Eggson, pull off morning television.
You just got to answer me this one quick question.
What did you think of the tone?
Did you watch him at Madison Square Garden?
And did you think he was a good comedian?
Tony Hinchke.
I was at Madison Square Garden, but it was an eight-hour ordeal.
I didn't get into like 5 p.m.
And went to like 8.30 p.m.
He took the stage at like 2 p.m.
I think Tony's hilarious.
I don't think roast comedy before a gigantic political audience is the right thing.
saw Tony that day. I saw him at Madison Square Garden smoking a cigarette over there on 7th Ave or
something. And he said to me, I had, because I hadn't heard it, he's like, yeah, man, Kamala HQ's
already coming after me from this joke I made about Puerto Rico. And I was like, eh, they'd come after
you for everything. I didn't think it was a deal. But looking back on it, that was not a pleasure
cigarette. That was a necessary cigarette. Right. I don't know if it's going to help him or
now. It's probably going to help him because Trump will probably have him back on knowing Trump,
he'll have him at the inauguration front and center. Oh, man. Can you imagine.
The guy with the biggest relief on Tuesday night was Tony Hinchcliffe.
He almost could have become basically the Archduke Ferdinand moment of the 21st century.
I mean, like you look back and you, why did Trump lose?
Well, see, there was this comedian.
Right.
Come on, come on my knee.
I'll tell you this story.
Will, thanks to have me on.
Thanks for dressing up.
Why didn't you tell me about the dress code?
I would have put my tank top back on.
I've never seen you dress down.
Never once.
I've seen you dressed down in my life.
All right.
Brian Kill me.
The host of Fox and Friends and the Brian Kilmead show.
You can go. Goodbye.
By the way, now Tony Hinchcliffe could be press secretary, perhaps.
That's a joke.
Maybe it lands better than the Puerto Rican joke.
But wouldn't that be something?
Press secretary, Tony Hinchcliffe.
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By the way, he knows something about addiction.
It's one of his big things, is helping people through addiction,
but not this week, because he launched one of the most successful,
night broadcast in the history of broadcasting.
Jerry News Network from Jersey Jerry at Barstool Sports,
joining us now on the Will Kane Show.
In the studios, in Chicago, not home on a Zoom.
I feel special, Jerry.
Will, I mean, I feel special.
Long time, no talk.
It's always nice to see your face, Will.
Do you know why it's been a long time we haven't talked?
Why?
Because you ghosted me last time I asked you to come on the Wilcane show.
You ghosted me.
I've had Billy football.
I've had Billy football.
I've had Tommy smokes.
I've had Jack McGuire.
But Jerry, I mean, the guy I found off the streets, I found this guy off the streets, put him on air.
And now he's a global star in news and politics, ghosted me here to come on the Will Cain show.
It was a blast.
Well, I had so much fun.
I was so nervous going into it.
And then I was just like texting my friends and whatnot.
They're like, Jerry, just be you.
You're going to be fine.
I was like, I know.
I don't want to say nothing stupid, though.
But you know what?
It turned out to be incredible.
You didn't want to say anything stupid, huh?
That was your big risk.
That's kind of part of the brand, Jerry.
I know.
From what I understand, I'm going to try to pull this up.
I'm going to try to pull this up, Jerry.
You were first, right?
I had Bill Himron.
Bill Him has got nothing on you.
if I understand this correctly.
You, you officially called the five battleground states first.
Here it is right here.
This is Jerry after dark on Tuesday night.
Tuesday night from Chicago, Jerry called North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania,
Wisconsin, and the entire election for Trump before John King at CNN, Bill Himmer and
Beyer at Fox News.
You had it first, Jerry.
And we had it first.
We were first to the party.
You know, early on, it was, he was just dominating the popular vote.
And then you see stuff come up on CNN and whatnot and all these other news networks.
And he's just leading in all these states.
And she's not even closing the gap.
So I said to myself, you know, they're 50% of the way there.
And she's not even getting close.
So I just made the executive decision.
I'm calling this thing.
And that's it.
And it turned out to be five for five.
Hey, Jerry after dark's incredible.
You know, maybe a lot of people know this,
and I don't even know if I'm supposed to say it, but I don't care.
Jerry and I are friends, and we've talked.
And we've talked about doing a show together, right, Jerry?
We've talked about doing a show at Barstall or wherever we may be.
We talked about doing a show together.
And we were talking and you're like, I don't know, you're great,
you're hilarious, you have a huge audience,
but, you know, ultimately at Barstall, you've got to have a show, a podcast, whatever,
like, pardon my take.
I think you found it, man.
Jerry After Dark, you found these live events.
And I've heard Dave talk about it.
Dave, Portnoy's talked about it.
Like, you know, how long does it take you to get a hole in one on a digital golf, you know, whatever?
You've got it, man.
Jerry After Dark.
And now the Jerry News Network.
Yeah.
You know, I'm excited to see, you know, a lot of people have messaged me the last 24, 48 hours.
And they're like, there's something there with the Jerry News Network.
We don't know what it is.
But there's something there because elections are, you know, once every four years, once every two years, whatever the case may be.
when it comes down to midterms and whatnot.
But, you know, we have to figure out something
for the Jerry News Network
that it can be a weekly thing, you know?
I just don't know what it is yet.
Here's what I want to ask you, Jerry.
And now I'm going to ask you a kind of serious question.
Yeah.
I took a walk this morning with my wife, okay?
When I'm older than you, Jerry,
when I was growing up, all right, 90s,
it was not cool to be conservative.
It certainly wasn't cool to be Republican.
It was defined by stodgy men in bow ties.
It was kind of defined by Tucker Carlson
before Tucker Carlson became cool, which he is now.
It was seen as stiff as somebody that wanted to control your social life
who looked down their nose and like the don't dance crew and footloose.
And something has changed, Jerry, big.
Like, obviously we talk a lot about young men,
but I just think about, obviously, there's you.
and everybody over at Barstall.
Not everybody at Barstall is conservative.
I'm not saying that.
And I know who's who are, who's not.
But, um, but the cultural shift is huge.
Like, there's just this huge cultural shift where it's like, why, like, I know this isn't
deep analysis, but it is kind of deep analysis.
Like, why is it now cool to be conservative and so beta dorky to be a lib?
I think social media.
I think a big part of that has to do with social media, you know?
You see a lot of young guys.
out there and you know golf is back golf's a big one and what I want to do with my friends is I want
to go hang out play nine who cares about the score just go out there have some fun be with the
guys talk shop you know watch sports on TV every Sunday you know at barstle Chicago you know a bunch
of us guys get together and we watch sports and that's just what men are supposed to do in my
opinion watch sports hang out be a good human be a good family man and I think
social media uh has played a big part in that um you know this last like decade i'd say and i just
feel like on social media to be a dorky kind of lib is just like not cool you know i think a man's
man is what's in right now and i think okay i think it's partly because they attacked so many
of the things that you just described like all those things got vilified being a man being a masculine
being into sports, you're, you know, you became like the villain of every story in America.
And at some point, if that's the case, there's going to be a backlash.
It's like every other demographic group.
Like, they're even doing it today with Latinos.
Like, oh, Latinos are so racist.
How could they vote for Donald Trump?
Guess what's going to happen?
You're going to turn an entire generation of Latinos just like, I think you're turning
an entire generation of men away from you.
Like, Joe Rogan was liberal.
You had one.
And you drove him away.
And now he's not.
Elon Musk as well.
Elon Musk was
You know blue until a couple years ago
Also listen well I'll say this
My girlfriend is Colombian right
We have a beautiful baby boy
She is an incredible mother
And she voted for Donald Trump
And I asked her why
And you know
She gave me some great reasons why
And she talked about
She doesn't understand
The left has gotten so out of control
She just doesn't understand where this
oh, if you vote Donald Trump, you're going to lose all your women rights.
What rights did you lose years ago when he was president?
You lost nothing.
And a big part of it was just common sense.
Just common sense.
You know what I mean?
The left has gotten out of control.
Do you think there's a pendulum?
Like in my lifetime again, I'm older than you.
I've seen this happen.
Like after Barack Obama, it was like, oh, it'll be Democrats forever.
The total reimagining and a realignment of America.
And there is, by the way, always a pendulum.
There is.
But I sit there and I go, if I think about my generation, I'm like, did all the dudes that
were into Green Day stay libs, did all the dudes that were, you know, like culturally enjoyed
rap who were on the left?
Did they stay on the left?
Like, you know, I don't know.
I don't know if this generation who just aligned themselves with Donald Trump is there
for a generation.
In my opinion, what I think is going to happen,
now more than ever
I think Trump is going to stand behind everything he has said
because now he's seen the people voted him back in
they rallied together
they went and they said you know what
we're for common sense again
we want the common sense back in this country
I think he's going to stand on that
and I think it's going to show the American people
that not only are you going to have Trump for the next four years
you might have JD Vance for the next eight
You might have Robert F. Kennedy.
You know, you might have Vivek.
You know what I mean?
I think it's going to be read for, I would say, at least another 12 years.
All right.
I mentioned, you know, not everybody at Barstool is on the right, obviously.
And at some people this week, like Stephen Colbert, Jim Carmel, having a hard time.
So I also, I wanted to acknowledge the week that you have had.
It's not, you've had a good week, of course, on Jerry News Network and Jerry After Dark,
but it's been hard for you in some way.
ways as well, I think, because I believe you are like a two-year running lib of the year at
Barstool. So you've asked everybody, here's a tweet Jerry put out. It's like two months ago.
He said, please stop with the lib of the year. I can't go to my phone without seeing it.
Public, people in public congratulating me for it. If you don't want to stop, if you want to stop
at one tweet a week, that's fine for now. Why? Because Big Cat and PFT have pointed out,
congrats on the winner of our prestigious lib of the year award right there Jerry I think it's a two-time
award um by the way here's your official map yeah as part of your live of the year campaign
your your map pre-election you had oklahoma going blue uh Mississippi bold bold you had
Mississippi going blue live of the year I think every county in Oklahoma went red right
yeah I was totally one blue county big big cat and PFT
they're awesome funniest guys ever i got this award because on a live stream one day i said i was a big
joey b guy and we were watching football and joe burrow was playing quarterback and i said i never mind
you know joey b i think he's a good guy right man for the job you know with the with the bangles
they took it and they ran with it and next thing you know i'm on part of my take and i got this
prestigious award which they said there was a cash prize for
for the lib of the year, which I won the award.
I have the award, but there's no cash prize.
There's no cash prize?
That's nonsense.
That's fraud, honestly.
You can't advertise a lottery or an award with a prize and not award the prize.
You should look into that.
I don't think you're going to need it because you got weekly Jerry off the dark.
You know, I would say I want to come on, but I'm afraid I would get ghosted when this thing launches.
No.
Can we talk about the Cowboys for one second?
All right, one second.
One second.
Go ahead.
Do you think they should just, do you think they're just going to quit?
Do you think it's over?
They're just quitting this year?
I want them to.
I want to go on Tank now.
I don't want to play Cooper Rush.
I want Trey Lance to play quarterback.
Just see if something happens there.
I don't think he's any good, but at least I want to see if something happens there.
And the problem is, Jerry, you know, if you may be real, I've never been more depressed.
and depressing defined by I don't care as much.
This is the least I've cared about the NFL.
I also have the Longhorns who are really good.
And so a lot of my football passion has been poured into that.
But, you know, man, I just feel like I'm signing up for the same stuff every weekend.
And you know what, Jerry, if you're listening, that's what you need to be afraid of.
Don't be afraid of my anger.
Be afraid of me not caring.
And you're getting me there.
You're getting to me not caring.
Well said.
All right.
But you're doing well.
Steelers are doing well.
You've got two quarterbacks.
You're a big Russie guy, right?
Big.
Very big.
I was first in on Russie.
You know, as soon as he came to the Steelers,
I would say 98% of the Steelers fan base and social media just thought this guy was dead, thought he stunk.
But you're a fickle boyfriend.
You're a fickle boyfriend.
I mean, you, you're all in on Kenny Pickett.
I think you probably had some Mitch Tribeskey love at some time.
I mean, you're a fickle boyfriend, you know, one.
minute i'm here and next you ghost me so be careful russ he's with you today tomorrow who knows
where this goes don't say that well all right check him out on jerry after dark uh over at barstool
i'm telling you uh i love jerry i think you'll love jerry as well he's not live of the year
jerry thanks man hey will thanks for having me too jerry you bet love you buddy there he goes
from barstool um i want you to listen to one more because this is what we're focused on is
I couldn't turn off MSNBC.
I haven't been able to turn off MSNBC for 36 hours.
Simone Sanders, big mad.
And I've just been really enjoying what I've been seeing.
And it's also happening at late night.
Here is John Stewart.
I do want to very quickly send a quick message to all the pollsters, the election
pollsters.
Um,
I don't.
ever want to
from you again, ever.
I don't ever want to hear
we've corrected to the over correction
you don't know
about
and I
don't care for you.
He's got a legitimate point
on this when it comes to the pollsters.
Let's run that by the host of the guy
Benson's show on Fox News Radio
whose podcast you can download right here at Fox News
or catch them every day at 3 o'clock Eastern time.
What's up, Guy?
Hey, Will, how's it going?
It's going good.
So before we get into sort of the reaction,
and you've been talking about it,
I've seen some of the stuff you've been putting out,
about the left's reaction to this resounding defeat,
I just want to ask you a curiosity that I have.
I'm always forward-looking.
I know this is like, everybody's like,
what are you going to do, Will?
You're talking about 20-28, but I still like,
I like the NFL draft.
I like college football recruiting.
I like to know what's coming next.
I'm curious, right now, the way the state of play is, guy, who would you say is the favorite
to inherit the mantle?
Is it J.D. Vance?
Is it Ron DeSantis?
Are you serious?
Are you doing this to me right now?
I am dead serious.
It is Thursday.
I'm dead serious.
It is Thursday.
We just did Tuesday.
There are races uncalled from Tuesday, and you're asking me about four years from now.
Are you kidding?
Do you want me to leave?
Guy, guy, the Cowboys could win the Super Bowl, and within two days, I'm looking at a mock draft for the next season.
I don't think the Cowboys are going to do that, I'm an optimist.
Am I wrong?
The answer is J.D. Vance, right?
He's vice president-elect. He will be vice president.
He is in a prime position when it comes to the future of republicanism.
Yeah.
I mean, I think let's see how the next four years go of the new Trump administration, but barring
all sorts of unforeseen things, which very well might come, because we've had many unforeseen things
just in the last four months, right, leading up to this election. But yeah, as a young, up-and-coming,
not just, you know, shining star of the party to be, he will be the sitting vice president of the
United States, having won that Ohio Senate seat, having been something of a cultural phenomenon
in his own right before that because of the best-selling book and the Hollywood film and all
of that. And I think this is really important, Will, as things stand right now, I think Vance
has won over at least grudging respect, if not more than that, from some of his detractors
or doubters on the right when Trump picked him. And by the way, I'm one of them, right?
I would have made a case for a number of, yep, I would have made a case for a number of other
people. And I stand by the case. Like, I think it was solid reasoning. But open mind, like,
I disagree with J.D. Vance and a number of policy issues, but I think he's smart. I think he's
interesting. He went and signed up and served the country after 9-11. Beautiful family. There's a lot to
commend him. But watching him, I think, grow, come into his own, really hit a stride on the campaign trail,
has been impressive. Not just at rallies, but especially in interviews, masterful in those interviews,
and then phenomenal at that debate. So with the lights brightest on J.D. Vance,
You see the numbers, the flip that he was able to pull off in his own favorability rating, to see that performance.
It's not like he kind of weighed Trump down a little bit and then Trump won anyway and now by default he's the vice president, kind of like a Kamala Harris situation.
He earned a lot of respect.
I think he'll say, well, this guy can perform.
And so I agree with your assessment that at the top of that heap, at least for now, has to be the guy who just got elected VP who's about to turn 40.
he's not 40 yet wow that's that's amazing well okay i know you want to laugh about me thinking ahead
to 2028 but i'm not actually if you look ahead to 2028 you can back your way into what happens
in 2025 in some ways and you what you just shared with me is pretty fascinating about your
conversion to jd vance what i'm saying is um i do have to say that after what we'll end up being
12 years of trump it's pretty definitive the republican party now has been if not permanently
for the foreseeable future
remade. If Trump
had lost, there could have been a question about
which way do we go, do we go back to sort of
a neocon vision or a Romney vision,
but after this, it is
a remade party, I think.
I think, Guy. And J.D.
is a representative of that, and even
someone perhaps who's won you over
in that way, Guy Benson. Right, and
it's not like all of a sudden I'm
a protectionist and I totally agree
with them on tariffs or any number of things.
I just, I like political
talent. I like someone who is
informed and smart. I mean, watching
Vance, I don't know how much you've done this, Will.
Watching Vance in long
form discussions, whether it's with
Ross Douthit at the New York Times or
with Joe Rogan,
he's a dude. He's a dude
who can hang and be
normal. This whole weird thing,
which was coined by Tim Walz,
by the way, like the biggest projection
I've ever seen in my life is
Tim Wals looking at J.D. Vance
and calling him weird.
If you watch-hands, Tim Waltz.
Jazz hands, big, weird kick for no reason.
He loves that move, the this move, the this move.
I'm going to miss him in some ways, but not at all.
I think Vance has proven that he is not this dark, ghoulish, demon character that they tried, caricature that they tried to paint of him.
And he's thoughtful, right?
Like when you come at him and challenge him on something, he's thought about it four levels down.
and even if you disagree with three of the four levels, or even all four of them, he's at least
thought it through.
So I think there's a lot.
Absolutely.
There's a lot to be said for that.
And the future of the party, if we're going to be talking about it, is I think some sort of fusion
between Trumpism and traditional Republican conservatism, some meeting there, some sort of
Venn diagram to borrow one of the illustrations that Kamala Harris loves so much.
Right. And I think J.D. Vance, Ron DeSantis, people like that are going to have to like hit some balance for themselves because I think some of the people who are just Trump people may go to the wayside at some point when Trump is no longer himself on the ballot. Where do you make up those gains? Maybe sort of in the burbs and some of the people who have drifted away from the Republicans but are still curious. I mean, that's a, there will be another remaking of the coalition once Donald Trump himself is.
gone. Guy, I'm an expert communicator. So I weave all this together like Donald Trump. And I
always have it going somewhere. So you're going to see while you scoff at my 2028 question, how it now all
begins to connect together. So I am curious about this today. But this is forward looking. You and I've
been around this game long enough to know this. When Barack Obama won, there was conversation about a
permanent remake of America, landslide. Democrats will win forever. Remember that guy? Forever.
That's what they said.
Obviously, conservatives and Republicans are feeling pretty confident today.
It just never is the case that you have it forever.
I even was with Jersey Jerry from Barstool talking about whether or not this young generation
of men will always think conservatism is cool.
I know from history that the pendulum swings.
It always does, man.
What do you think it will swing?
Like, is it the issue of abortion that could swing the popular culture back to the left?
Like, what is this?
What will cause the pendulum to swing?
wing. First, I agree with the premise, and I think you'd be a fool not to. Nothing is permanent
in politics, right? The coalition of the ascendant, they called it, the permanent Democratic
majority, that was something the left was talking about after 08. There was also an argument
that Republicans had a systemic and perhaps unbreakable lock on the electoral college after 2004.
People have this recency bias where they look at a recent success and failure of the two sides
and say, oh, this side is going to win forever and this other one is doomed.
And it never actually happens that way because things change.
Look at the coalition that Donald Trump just pieced together, which includes a lot of pieces
of the Obama coalition that we were told made it impossible for Republicans to ever win again.
And so, and by the way, this is the other thing.
And do you think there's a lot of, real quick, do you think there's Obama voters that vote for Trump?
Yes.
Like the same person.
I voted for Obama and I vote for Trump.
Well, we know this.
We know this for a fact.
There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of them.
And by the way, a lot of them lived in Iowa.
Barack Obama won Iowa twice.
Donald Trump has romped in Iowa three times.
It's not because a bunch of people voted for Obama and then said, well, I'm going to stay
home and never vote again.
No, they switched, right?
There's a lot of people in this country who voted for Barack Obama and Donald Trump.
There's a good number of them who voted for Joe Biden and now Donald Trump.
Some of whom voted for Hillary, some of whom voted for Trump the first time, people swing.
People are persuaded.
They look at events.
They look at the situation in the country.
They look at the two people, right?
And they make different choices.
I was going to say, well, in 2022, I remember after the 22 elections, a lot of Republicans sitting around kind of shocked.
Like, you know, wow, the fundamentals showed all of these things.
How could we possibly underperform in a midterm election this way?
And there were some very uncomfortable questions around that, right?
Ironically, I think the overperformance by Democrats ended up being one of the most
peeric victories in the history of American politics because it convinced Joe Biden that he was
more popular than it was.
And he said, yeah, you know what?
They love me.
The Republicans failed somehow in this midterm.
Hell yes, I'm running for re-election.
And that set off a chain of events that led us to a red wave mini bloodbath for the Democratic Party
two years later in a much more important election.
So that warning, as good as Republicans, many of them are feeling today, two days, I will remind you, Will, after the most recent election.
If you start looking at 26 and you look at 28, the dynamics can shift real fast.
And often when one party has the trifecta, which I think Republicans are likely favored to have right now, they might overreach.
The opposition party can just oppose.
That is very unifying.
People, you know, in low propensity elections, the party that just.
generally has lost is more fired up and desperate, so they tend to do well. I mean, there's
going to be another swing back here, guys. This is what, this is what happens. And it's a healthy
thing. Right. Because there will be elections to come. You can always adjust and live to fight another
day. That's part of the beauty of our system. Well, if it's inevitable, guy, if it is inevitable,
I actually think that means, then go ahead and check off your dream list. Go ahead and put Elon Musk
in charge of the Department of Government Efficiency and slash like crazy because it's inevitable. It's
wing anyway. You know who I've heard to make that point about Joe Biden that he got too
overconfident based on 2022? And because of that, he decided to run again is the guy who's
coming up next on the Will Kane show that Stephen A. Smith has made a very similar smart
point to what guy is making today. Last thing with you, Guy, you have tweeted about this,
you've talked about this. That is how the left has now turned. They're blaming Latino men
as, and not just men, I think. Latinos in general as racists. They are blaming black men for
being misogynistic. They are doing all the same tricks that they've done in the past for white
men. They're now just expanding it to to minorities. Shockingly, minorities now are the racist. But I
actually wanted to share this with you, guy. This is shocking. This is the editor-in-chief of
Scientific American. And the reason I want to point this out is the kind of credibility that we
afford and the pretense of objectivity we afford to the concept of science and those who championed
their resident priests like Scientific American.
She tweeted the following guy.
Here's a three-tweet thread I wanted to share with you.
She said, her name is Laura Helmuth.
I apologize to younger voters that my Gen X is so full of effing fascists.
Okay, that's one.
Two, solidarity to everybody whose meanest, dumbest,
most bigoted high school classmates are celebrating early results
because F them to the moon and back.
All right.
And then finally, every four years I remember why I left.
to Indiana where I grew up, and remember why I respect the people who stayed and are trying
to make it less racist and sexist, the moral arc of the universe isn't going to bend itself.
Scientific American guy.
Well, I mean, it's hard to argue with that science, Will.
It's very scientific of her.
Look, and by the way, the lashing out at white people and racists and apologizing two young people
for Gen Xers, young people swung significantly to Trump.
didn't win them, but he came close. And by the way, in Wisconsin, Michigan, he did win the youngest
voters in those states. Millennial men went Trump. Gen Z men were awfully close. So, I mean, this whole
thing of, oh, I'm so sorry to the young people. The young people moved in the bleep you kind of way
also, right? And as did various elements of a diverse racial coalition, which is something that
they are really having trouble processing. You mentioned Stephen A. Smith's coming up.
I mean, he had the famous rant about this.
Barack Obama tried the sexism, misogyny, finger-wagging, hectoring, and how'd that go?
Not only did it not help, I don't think it might have hurt Kamala Harris.
So if they're going to keep learning the wrong lessons, by all means, go for it.
I think they'll continue to lose, but I'll leave you with this will.
And this might be a hot take.
Maybe I'm wrong, because there's plenty of examples all over the place of people losing their minds and saying crazy things.
in my feed on my social media among people that I know on Instagram, for example, I'm thinking
back to 2016 versus now, to me, the freak out is significantly less.
I mean, it's still out there, but it's like, I'd say, a third to 40 percent less.
I think some of these people are tired, they're exhausted.
It was so lopsided.
Trump's going to win the popular vote.
Yeah, so they're like, ugh.
So you're still seeing the performative rending of garments to some extent, but to me it is a little
bit more muted than last time.
I think it's what happens when you get blown out.
All right, he's Guy Binson.
Check it out 3 o'clock today on Fox News Radio on the Guy Binson show.
I appreciate you being on the Will Cain Show guy.
Thank you, sir.
All right, here is the host, by the way, of the tonight show.
Jimmy Fallon talking about the election results.
Well, guys, last night America decided to get back with a crazy ex
and elect Donald Trump as the 47th president of the United States.
States. No matter
who you voted for, I think all Americans can agree
it's going to be a rough Thanksgiving.
Really, right?
Yep, Trump returning to the White House
is a huge historic comeback for someone
who literally never went away.
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