Will Cain Country - BREAKING: Supreme Court Blocks Trump's Birthright Citizenship Order (ft. Rep. Andy Ogles & Dan Dakich)

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Just hours ago, the Supreme Court issued a devastating verdict for President Donald Trump’s agenda: a 5-4 decision that overturned the President’s Executive Order to do away with Birthright Citize...nship. Congressman Andy Ogles (R-TN) joins Will to argue how this ruling weakens our national security, and what can still be done to fight back. Rep. Ogles also weighs in on the rise of the Democratic Socialist movement as more and more candidates continue to pop up across the nation.Plus, Outkick’s Dan Dakich hops on the show to put an end to the age old question: If you’re an immigrant here in the U.S., which national team do you root for? Dan, Will and The Crew also react to European politicians blaming Americans and our air-conditioning for the current Parisian heat wave and the idea that the WNBA “doesn’t need Caitlin Clark anymore.”Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Your babies have Americans, illegal immigrants, World Cup tourists, just passing through Chinese birth tourism. The Supreme Court of the United States strikes down President Donald Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship, making the United States one of the few, very, very few countries in the world where all you have to do is pass through to be an American. with Congressman Andy Ogles on Wilcane Country. The Wilcane Country streaming live with the Willcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, but never miss an episode, just hit follow at Spotify or on Apple. Outkick has a three-part America 250 series. It's going to be released over the next three days,
Starting point is 00:01:16 and joining us in just a moment will be Don't At Me with Dan Dockich. It will be Outkicks Dan Dockich. Let's talk about the attack. on Caitlin Clark. Let's talk about the take that Caitlin Clark is bad for the WNBA. But we have to start today with breaking news. The Supreme Court of the United States within the past hour has struck down President Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship. Birthright citizenship, the policy that if one is born on soil of the United States of America, then one is an American. Whether or not your parents are illegal immigrants, whether or not your parents are World Cup tourists,
Starting point is 00:02:10 whether or not your parents are Chinese birth tourists, the Supreme Court of the United States, and a 5-4 decision that includes Justice Amy Coney-Barrant and Chief Justice John Brown. Roberts has said, you are American. This opens the door, or permanently puts the door stop in an open door that allows the very concept of a nation state to be questioned, to water down the idea, the concept, the word of what it is to be an American. Let's break down. This breaking news now with Republican Congressman for Tennessee's fifth congressional district. It is Congressman Andy Ogles joining us now here on Wilcane Country. I find myself, Congressman, emotionally on a seesaw.
Starting point is 00:03:06 In some ways, I find myself unsurprised. I knew this was going to happen. You probably knew this was going to happen at the very least because I knew that Chief Justice John Roberts simply would not overturn $1,000. 130, 140 years of Supreme Court precedent. As a watcher of the Supreme Court, I'm very well aware of the instincts of Chief Justice John Roberts. At the same time, I find myself unsurprised, and I rate that basically what we have now
Starting point is 00:03:39 confirmed is there's no such thing, in essence, as being American. I mean, it's disappointing. it's a bad decision. And quite frankly, I would argue it's a portrayal. I mean, because we know that China literally you have leaders within the Communist Party, the same Communist Party, the same country, China that does everything they can to undermine us every single day. They want to see America on its knees.
Starting point is 00:04:12 They literally, there's a pipeline of Chinese communists going to Guam, having babies. And now that Manchurian child has been. born. And so you have, I guarantee you, and I promise you that someone has been born of Chinese communist descent in Guam, that is a U.S. citizen now, that at some point will be brought to the mainland and will try to run for president of the United States of America. There is a more sinister play here with the Chinese and the Supreme Court has led us down. They've left our flank exposed for a communist country to undermine the United States of America. That, no doubt, I believe as well to be true.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And yet somehow, Congressman, I find that, and I'm not being dismissive of your example, that anecdote is even less threatening to me than what I know is happening right now in America. What I mean by that is, you're right. Someone has already been born in Guam. That person is a United States citizen. That person is being raised in China. They are being raised under the Chinese communist education at a very not even cultural level, but in a politically targeted level, to your point, to someday come back to the United States and exert the powers of the Chinese Communist Party here at home in America. But I'm even more a rate at the idea that we have watered down the concept of citizenship to the point that it's almost a denial of the existence of the nation state. Can I use what I think some people may dismisses even more trivial anecdotes?
Starting point is 00:05:45 I'm a fan, Congressman of Soccer. I'm a fan of the World Cup. One of the star players of the United States of America is a man by the name of Fallon Balligan. And he's really only playing with the United States of America because his mother was deemed too pregnant to travel back to England. and therefore Balagan was born in Brooklyn, raised in England, trained in England, better soccer player for having been trained in England. He now is playing for the United States of America. And it's great. He's scored multiple goals.
Starting point is 00:06:21 He's helped propel us to success. And it is, you know, a story that one would point to on the benefits of birthright citizenship. On the other hand, Congressman, I'm watching this morning scrolling through my social media feed. My sons and I were up last night watching Morocco beat. the Netherlands in a penalty shootout at the end of the game. And I wake up this morning and I see these videos of Moroccans celebrating on the streets of Amsterdam. You know, waking people up at 6 a.m. I don't know if it's a riot. I haven't been able to dive in quite enough to find out if it's a violent or riotous celebration.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But it doesn't matter. I just said and I thought, here are these Moroccans living in Netherlands benefiting themselves of the society and culture of the Dutch. and celebrating vanquishing the Dutch. And there's just something that really strikes me poorly about this idea. And I know the exact same thing is happening here. If Mexico defeated the United States and the World Cup, we would see celebrations on the streets of America on the defeat of the United States of America.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah, I mean, and look, I understand that someone, you know, from Mexico or wherever may have some national pride, but you know, if you want to come to this country, you should want to be a part of this country. You should want to work hard and contribute to society. You should love this country. And we have literally people from foreign nations who hate us who are using and abusing our immigration system. That's why I've been working very closely with the White House. I have the assimilation Act, have the Remigration Act. We're literally going to be dropping anchors away, which really pushes back against the Supreme Court, this idea.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Look, if you're pregnant and you're from a foreign nation, you know what? It's time for Congress to pass a law to say, you can't come here. You can't have a baby on US soil and exploit this loophole, and we're gonna attack this head on. And so, you know, our founding fathers,
Starting point is 00:08:25 they warned us about a judiciary that was too powerful. We're supposed to be co-equal branches of government. You have a judiciary that day in and day out legislates, legislating is the job of Congress and I'm tired of usurping or being usurped by the Supreme Court. And quite frankly, they got this horribly wrong. Just because you have a hundred years of bad precedent doesn't make, you know, multiple wrongs don't make a right. And it's time for them to do their dang job. And so you know what? In Congress, we're going to fight back. We're going to start passing
Starting point is 00:08:53 laws. We're going to take our country back. We're going to secure the border. We're going to start kicking people out of this country. On that note of remigration and the concept of assimilation, see, I don't either begrudge a Mexican from being prideful and really. for Mexico. The choice, though, and I emphasize, the choice is when you move to America, you should be making a choice to become American. And that becomes your primary loyalty. And I wouldn't even mind someone, and I know it sounds like I'm only talking about sports, but obviously I'm not exclusively talking about sports, because this is bigger, but sports becomes incredibly illustrative. If Mexico is playing Venezuela and your family is of Mexican descent, I think that's
Starting point is 00:09:43 great. Root for Mexico over Venezuela. But if Mexico is playing the United States of America, you have chosen affirmatively to live and become an American and you root for America. Otherwise, this is just simply an economic land grab. You're coming here because you want a better way of living, but you don't actually appreciate the society that's produced that better way of living. Here's a great example of what I'm talking about. And you've got this remigration bill, and I know that they're talking about this in Europe. I'm going to give you one more example to everyone listening to you, Congressman. I read this this morning. I can't remember the player's name. This guy played for the Dutch national team in the World Cup in 2010.
Starting point is 00:10:23 So he represented the Netherlands at the World Cup in 2010. He was born and raised in the Netherlands. But his family is of Moroccan descent. And I don't even know how many generations back you would have to go. It could have been his parents were raised in the Netherlands as well. I don't know. But he definitely is of Moroccan descent. And he said he was rooting for Morocco over the Netherlands. And it makes me go, then why are you Dutch? What makes you Dutch? You know, what makes you Dutch? And sports being illustrative, I have to ask. And I don't think I'm absurd in asking this. If the Netherlands and Morocco went to war, who would you side with if this is what you're saying? I want to know who you would side with. Because if your answer
Starting point is 00:11:10 isn't the Netherlands, if your answer isn't the USA, then how are you American? What makes you American? Well, and we've seen this over and over again. You talk about it's an economic grab. It's a land grab. It's this, you know, despite what the liberal media might say, the most powerful and sought after passport in the world is the U.S. passport. The most respected passport, the most free passport in the world is the U.S. passport. And we saw under Joe Biden's administration where he had 200,000 Afghanis come to this country, not to work, not to make America a better place, not to assimilate into our culture.
Starting point is 00:11:49 No, they came here, and over 50% of them are on welfare. Over 70% of them are getting free health care. That should piss you off. Because we've got veterans killing themselves at 20 to 22 a day. We have third graders that can't read right into arithmetic, which, by the way, if you can't read right into arithmetic, when you graduate the third grade, you're most likely going to prison. And so we have a choice, a clear choice.
Starting point is 00:12:12 We choose Americans. We choose our veterans. We choose our children. Or we choose people that hate this country. We choose people that are coming here to suck and leach off the American people. I've had enough of it. That's why I've led the charge on assimilation. That's why I've led the charge of remigration. It's why I'm leading the charge on preventing pregnant moms, in particular from China, coming to our country and exploiting this loophole that is what you saw
Starting point is 00:12:38 with the Supreme Court. I'm just getting started. I'm fired up and I want to continue this conversation with Congressman Andy Ogles here on Wilkane Country. History is in Justin Textbooks. It's the story of us. The United States. 2026 marks 250 years of America. And throughout the year, Bill Hammer takes listeners on a journey through the 250 most impactful moments in American history. From the spark of revolution to the battles for freedom, the ideas, inventions, and decisions that change the world.
Starting point is 00:13:08 The 250 most impactful moments in American history podcast. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox Newswineshop.com with code FN Radio 20. 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31st, 2026. Must be 21 order to order. Please drink responsibly. All right. So, but then, so I love the bills that you, you know, I've talked about these bills. I love these bills. Now, it sounds like you've got a third one, right? So you've got the remigration bill.
Starting point is 00:13:41 This third one is about birthright citizenship, essentially using the let, which is, you know, that's what the Supreme Court is saying. You're going to have to pass this through Congress. Pass it through Congress, define birthright citizenship. But the problem is always, Congressman, is, okay, this is a good point in what's to talk about the Supreme Court last week. Last week, the Supreme Court said that temporary protected status for Haitian migrants and others is not indefinite. And the Haitians that came over, now 15 years ago, horrible earthquake in Haiti, came over, we took them in as refugees, under temporary protected status, could be returned. And I think Stephen Miller said it well. Like, you know, the Supreme Court said temporary means temporary. Like 15 years, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:14:27 It means that's got to be beyond the realm of temporary. The argument today on why we can't return Haitians has nothing to do with an earthquake. It has to do with crime and corruption and all of those things. But that's not why they were brought in under TPS. But I'm a little shocked, and this goes to your bills. I wake up today. I see former governor John Kasich. I see Mike DeWine all.
Starting point is 00:14:48 talking about, these are Republicans. I'm not even getting to the socialist left yet. These are Republicans who for some reason don't see the greater umbrella of immigration issues the same way. And those people are going to stand in the way of the conversation we're having as much as anybody on the left. Well, that's why I've been fighting so hard on these issues. And quite frankly, you know, we have the benefit, you know, look, Europe is the surveillance state, which obviously is a bad thing. But from my perspective, that also means there's a lot of data available. And so when you look at London, when you look at Paris, when you look at Rome, there's a lot of crime data out of those countries. And you see the migrant population. And you see where these
Starting point is 00:15:33 migrants are committing, you know, they're maybe 10, maybe 12, maybe on the high side, 15% of the population, but they're committing 50% of the sex crimes. I mean, we have the data to show while allowing your country to be invaded is a bad thing. Quite frankly, it's common sense. And when you start talking about facts, and oh, by the way, that data is from the London police. It's from the French Interior Ministry. It's from the Rome police.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So these aren't data, that's not data that I made up or that will made up. That's from the governments in Europe admitting that they've got a problem, but they're too cowardly and feckless to do anything about it. And that's why it's important for you to sing the truth, for me to preach the truth. And for your listeners, your viewers, to get involved, call your congressman and say, hey, we want a freaking country back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Hey, let's listen to the Ohio governor together on this issue of TPS and Haitians. But the other point is it is not in the United States' interest, certainly not in Ohio's interest, to have people who are working every single day, who are supporting a family, who are buying houses, fixing up old houses, starting businesses, and then put deep roots in this country and really are contributing and yank them out i mean look at look at what the the mayor of springfield says mayor says that is a huge huge mistake they're contributing rob ruse says they're contributing greatly yeah okay that's almost back to that economic argument i don't even know i i don't have the data in front of me on what's happening in springfield
Starting point is 00:17:09 when it comes to crime rates economic but the point it that is a front end argument not a back end argument. If you want to make the argument that bringing in these people via legal immigration would have these benefits, then make that argument. But you can't have it on the back end. Bring them under temporary protected status, redefine what it means along the way, and then justify it with the argument we just heard from Mike DeWine. Absolutely. And that argument is nonsense. I don't know what kind of drugs he's on, but none of what he said makes any sense. I guarantee if you looked at the data, none of those talking points are accurate. And I guarantee you the disproportionate number of those individuals are committing crimes. That being said, maybe I'm wrong,
Starting point is 00:17:52 but it doesn't matter. Why is he saying they came under temporary, Congress. In your mind's, Congress. Permanary status, right? Exactly. But why? Why am I hearing that from DeWine and KSig? I mean, seriously, is it, is there some financial benefit to the politicians? Is it, you know, concern over local economic impact? Is it sort of the George W. Bush compassionate conservatism I'm hearing? What is that that I'm hearing there from Republicans when it comes to immigration? Look, I can be compassionate, but you still have to come here the right way. You still have to follow our laws.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And if you and I were to go to the Middle East, the UAE, we start a business, and we're working there 8, 10, 12, 15 years. and they decide, oh, by the way, you ever stayed your visa by 10, 11 years? You know what they're going to do? They're going to yank us up by the scruff of our neck. They're going to put us on a plane. They're going to send us home. You're not going to hear any whining about that over there. And yet you have these liberal Republicans that, you know, try to make these silly cases twisting facts and data to try to make their case, like you said, on the back end.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Look, if there's a program and someone wants to come here legally, fine. But look, part of being a sovereign country, part of being a sovereign country, part of being a the leader of the free world is you have secure borders, that you have an open, honest judiciary. And, oh, by the way, you have a process of immigration that is controlled and transparent and accountable. And right now we fail in that category. And I'm sick and tired of it. You have all these illegals that are here. You have all the people that are literally a drain on society. And I understand there's some good people. That doesn't change the fact that their very first act coming into this country was to break our laws, to break our immigration laws, and they are, quite frankly, a criminal.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Meanwhile, Congressman, on the left, we've got a whole different thing going on. You know, it is kind of interesting if you thought about if we had a parliamentary system in America, what would it look like right now? Whatever party you're in is not the same party as Mike DeWine. And that's not to say you don't have overlap. You're going to have things you agree on, and that's what happens in a parliamentary system with multiple parties, you create coalitions on things that you agree about. But, you know, we're seeing a divide on the right. The left, I don't know if it's fair to say we're seeing a divide. We're seeing
Starting point is 00:20:14 a takeover or a migration. Okay. Democratic socialism, and in some cases, some of these people are saying out loud that they do believe the ultimate goal is communism is on the march. And it's not just New York City. Hassan Piker is the, he's the streamer, and I don't know if he's the face of this, at least from a non-politician perspective, but this is what Hassan Piker is saying about the popularity and the spread of democratic socialism in America. Yeah, there was a new poll that just came out that showed, with the exception of Barack Obama, the top three most popular politicians across the board in the United States of America were all Democratic socialists or socialists in general. you had Bernie Sanders, Armumdani, and AOC in the top three.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And I think this is precisely what a lot of establishment Democrats are terrified of. So I woke up this. Go ahead. I was going to say, I mean, there's a little of takeover taking that you're witnessing within the Democratic Party. I mean, even Hakeem Jeffries is in jeopardy of losing his role as a leader within his own party because of this surge of this democratic socialism. It's, by the way, people like socialism until they're standing in line for bread because they have no idea what they're talking about. So look, you know, I think ultimately the elections in New York are a wake-up call. But I think what's going to happen, whether it's two years, four years or five years from now, New York is going to be like, holy crap, what have we done?
Starting point is 00:21:45 And you'll see this pendulum swinging the other direction. But in the meantime, they're in for pain because they're going to steal from the rich and give to the poor until they illegal. I think it's a pretty optimistic view quite honestly. There's a pendulum that would swing. Because socialism is a doom loop. But it is a doom loop, though. It's like, okay, socialism creates a problem. How do you fix it more socialism?
Starting point is 00:22:08 The buses are bad in New York City. Well, buses are government run. That's a city program. What do we do to fix that? Well, we'd put more government into the busing system and make them free. So it's like socialism becomes the cure for socialism, and it's a doom loop. way down. I don't know if there's ever a pendulum swing. And it's not just New York to my, to the point. And you said it. Maybe he's right. So this is Oliver Larkin. He's a Democratic
Starting point is 00:22:36 Socialist. I think guys, if I remember correctly, he's running for Congress in Missouri. We're seeing candidates, by the way, in multiple states across the country rise on Democratic Socialism. So here's Oliver Larkin. Don't for a second believe that this movement that we are building for democratic socialism and for a country that truly reflects the needs of the working class is limited to just small pockets of the country. As Mayor Mammandani Ted on ABC News just yesterday, this movement is capable of winning anywhere in the United States of America. I agree with that as well. Do you, Congress, I mean, it's a great promise. I'm going to give you his stuff, whoever his is, the guy over there. Right, right. Well, I mean, I think, again,
Starting point is 00:23:20 it's a wake-up call. Like if you're in a blue city, whether it's, you know, I'll look at Tennessee, a Memphis or Nashville, that you're going to see this insurgency of this socialism. That doesn't mean it'll be successful. And I don't necessarily believe that it'll succeed everywhere. But when you look at the economic burden that New York, quite frankly, will ultimately become because of Mom Donnie, you know, you and I pay the price of that. Look, we are a republic of free states. And I always say, you know, California has a right to be socialist. That means Tennessee has a right to conservative. We have a right to be Christian and we can have we have a right to say heck no and so my hope is is that the electorate wakes up but that's why
Starting point is 00:23:59 we have to you know the more I have been attacked I have been vilified I have been defamed because I'm willing to say the tough things that most members of Congress are unwilling to say and the more they attack me the louder I get because you know the Republic is at stake and I'm not gonna let it watch it die and weather on my watch you know our founding fathers you know, literally risk their life and their fortunes to build this country. And I have an obligation to take that same type of oath and to defend this country, whatever it takes.
Starting point is 00:24:31 You have been attacked and vilified. I don't know what the future looks like, Congressman. Like, on one hand, I do see European countries beginning to, and by the way, European countries foreign migration. is at a lower percentage than ours. Like, we always try to treat Europe as some, like, big cautionary tale. I believe the percentage of foreign-born in the U.K., I don't have France in front of me. It's lower than the percentage of foreign-born in the United States.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Now, they are taking in, you know, Muslim, Pakistani, Arab at greater rates, obviously, than we are. Ours is largely driven out of migration out of Latin America. That's right. But not exclusively, but largely. they have begun, and again, it's a parliamentary system, so this point of view gets a better chance to be represented. Remigration. They've begun the conversation of assimilation in ways that I don't think we really have. You know, we don't think we're having a real open conversation about this.
Starting point is 00:25:41 It's immediately dismissed as whatever, racist or xenophobic or bigoted in any way. And I don't know what the future looks like. I don't know what the right says. I don't know what, I think I know what the left says in the coming 10 years. I do. I think the left is pretty clear. It's multiculturalism. It's cultural relativism.
Starting point is 00:26:03 But that only being a way station on its way to cultural dominance of another culture to replace American culture. And I think that I don't see, I don't see any Democratic politician who is, is, you know, middle ground on it, to be quite honest. is even middle ground on it. I think most of them are bending towards the arc of that point of view. But I don't know. I don't know what the next 10 years says for the right. I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:33 I think you're going to get people to say, oh, we need to have borders. But after that, I don't really know where it goes on the right. Well, I mean, I look to Europe and there is a glimmer of hope. But it's after some of the horrible data that we're saying, seeing. I mean, you know, you probably saw that report out of the UK that's a week and a half or so old, where you had 250,000 young girls who were sexually abused by these Pakistanly, in
Starting point is 00:27:02 particular, Islamic rape gangs. And, you know, that's coming to a city near you if we don't have this honest conversation. And like you said, we have a greater number of, you know, immigrants here in this country, predominantly from Latin America. But when you see this saturation of populations from countries that literally hate us. They have a different culture that cannot, quite frankly, assimilate with ours, with Western values. Then you see these crime rates skyrocketing. And, you know, I mean, there's literally no go zones in Paris and in London.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And is that what we want for London? I mean, for New York or Chicago or for Nashville? No. And so that's why I continue to be loud on this issue. And look, if you want to come here, I get it. But you need to come here and love this country. And so, you know, when you look at remigration, you should have to have a job before you get here. And if you don't have a job, we're going to send you home.
Starting point is 00:27:59 If you commit a crime, we're going to send you home. And, oh, by the way, if you came here in the last 10 years under false pretence, like Mom Donnie, we're going to denaturalize and we're going to deport you. This is our country. I say it all the time. We get to decide who comes in. We also get to decide who leaves. But that's going to take courageous politician and elected officials at the federal level, at the state level and the local level, to stand up and said, we've had enough and we want our communities back. It's our community.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's not theirs. Right. All right. Always a rare and interesting conversation with Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee. Congressman, it's good to see you. Thanks for being with us here today. Absolutely. Thank you. And keep up the good fight. Okay. All right. I will. Thank you. Coming up the host of Don't At Me at Outkick, Dan Dockitz joins us to talk about Caitlin Clark on Will. country. Hey y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if. Just style you love and quality you can trust. Visit Wayfair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home.
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Starting point is 00:30:12 And, you know, I drove up to Santa Barbara or just south of Santa Barbara. and you can see the rigs. You can see the offshore rigs that are not running. Do you know what I'm talking about? The Newsom shut down. Like, they're there. They have gas. They have oil in California.
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Starting point is 00:31:43 Okay. Don't at me with Dan Dock. which you can catch every day at Outkick. Dan Dockich is sitting here listening to this award-winning broadcasting as we speak. Dan, this, you probably just tuned in. Here, I'm going to read this comment from a viewer because this is actually a sports conversation. I don't like the way that's loading either. No, I don't know what's going on there.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Here's the comment. It's from Big Jep. Okay, see, he's always here. He said, I'm a Danish citizen still. I love America with all my heart. I also love Denmark, my homeland. You can love more than one country. Rooting in sports does not identify you. It's a sport. Come on, man. And then James Marsh says, Big Jep, sounds like you're saying assimilation is working. Okay, no, Big Jep, which you listen to us every day, and I appreciate that. And I'm going to bring Doc at you on this conversation. I don't begrudge you loving Denmark. Like, love it. Root for Denmark against Norway. Root for Denmark against Norway. Root for Denmark against Switzerland. Root for Denmark against Germany. Do it, man. Root for Denmark against
Starting point is 00:32:51 Paraguay. But when Denmark plays the United States, I do expect you to root for the United States. That's how I work. I'm actually really passionate about this and you guys know this. It's like, it's not a gray area. No 50-50, no split jersey. No. Or go back to Denmark. And I love you, Big Jet, but that's the kind of the, you're the one making the choice, not me. you're making the choice. I'm not. So, Dan, what I'm talking about is these Moroccans celebrating on the streets of, you know, Amsterdam today because Morocco beats the Netherlands. And this is a conversation about immigration and assimilation, these things as well.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But I even had this like, Patrick, you see him in the name of this Dutch player. He played for the Netherlands, Dan, in 2010. Okay, played for him in the World Cup. And he said he was rooting for Morocco against the Netherlands yesterday. And that, honestly, I'm not Dutch. What do I care about? It makes my blood boil. It makes my blood boil.
Starting point is 00:33:52 What makes you Dutch? Why are you Dutch if you're rooting for another country against the Netherlands? And obviously, I don't really care that much about the Netherlands. I'm just applying that to the United States. Well, you know, I was raised by a father that was Serbian. Dad came over. a mom that was Polish, dad, grandparents came over. And I root for Serbia.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I root for Poland, but not against United States and not even a little bit. Like, look, I'll talk about Sleevovich, and I'll talk about sausage, and I'll talk about all that stuff and enjoy whatever it is that we're going to talk about relative to Serbian or Polish culture. And I'll go right to the Serb Fest, the Polish fest, and have a great time. But for me personally, again, now. I'm second generation. I'm not, you know, just came over on the boat like my grandparents did,
Starting point is 00:34:48 or grandfather, I guess, did. But I'm rooting for the United States. And I'm with you on this. Like, I get it. You go back to a city, for example, and you go into a Polish restaurant and, hey, I'm Polish, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, well, am I really? I mean, you know, just because people came over a long time ago. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But you know what? here is the deal. I do think in certain instances, like I have a player who played in Belgium, and he really adopted. He learned Flemish. He learned everything.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And he roots for Belgium in everything except when they're against the American. So I'm kind of with you. You're born an American. You're here in America. I'll give a crap what your history is. You root for America. Don't even mess around with it.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Don't dick around with it. Let's go. That's it. Italian Americans do this most. This isn't complicated. Yeah, well, okay, that's a northeastern thing. Yes, I have a lot of Italian-American friends at work at Fox. I have all kinds of Italian-American friends.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I have all kinds, some of which I feel, well, I know we're connected, right? They all rooted for America. They had unbelievable national pride before they went to jail. But that's a different story. I don't know if they still feel that way, you know, in a hole. But, hey, it is what it is. Root for America and shut up. I want to emphasize this.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I've already said it because people seem to get confused on the line. The line is bright. I don't care if you root for Croatia, Dan. I think that's fun. If I'm hanging out with you and Croatia is playing England and you are rooting for Croatia and you're in that red and white checker jersey, I think that's fun. Break out the Croat food. I don't even know what Croat food is.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But break it out. Okay? Meets. That's fun. I would want to go to your house to watch that game instead of sitting at my house watching Disinterested. It would be fun. However, now we are, it's everybody ready?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Big Jeff, you ready? Everybody ready? Now we're approaching the bright line. Croatia is playing the United States. If you root for Croatia, I got problems. If you root for Denmark against the United States, I got problems. if you root for Mexico against the United States. I got problems.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And don't give me, it's just sports man. Sports is a metaphor for life, and I will say this. I don't care. Everybody can say, it makes me wonder, if we go to war, which jersey are you wearing in that one, too? I tell you what jersey I'm wearing. I'm old, man. I'm going to watch it on TV if there's a war.
Starting point is 00:37:35 My old ass ain't wearing no jersey. We'll see it online. I get the point, though. And, you know, I do, one of the things I've loved about this World Cup is the passion of the fans. Like, we're passionate here, right, for the Super Bowl. You love all things, Texas, the Dallas Cowboys, all that kind of stuff. You know, I grew up. My weeks were ruined if the Bears lost when I grew up outside Chicago.
Starting point is 00:38:02 But I'll tell you what, Will, fellas, I think this is a different level of passion, man. This is an intensity combined with a hell of a lot of fun this World Cup. So I don't think you're going to see any true Norwegians or I don't think you're going to see any true Moroccans or the Scots rooting for anybody but their own team, period. And I don't think you're going to see them begrudge the United States because they've learned, as we've seen in all these videos, they've loved the United States. So I think you can love, I think you said this earlier, you can love what's going on here being in the United States and loving and being surprised how great it is relative to what is reported. But you ain't rooting for the United States as you're rowing a boat down Times Square as a Norwegian, whatever the hell they are.
Starting point is 00:38:56 They're here now. They're mustering in Dallas. They're literally mustering at the bottom of our building. That's what I'm saying. It's great. The Vikings, the Vikings are gathering. Dallas as we speak. All we got going for us is the heat. I saw Erling Holland, their all world strikers say, it's landed at DFW. It's boiling. I'm like, yeah. Well, luckily, you're going to play at AT&T, aka Dallas Stadium for the World Cup, and it's going to be air conditioned. So enjoy. It's going to be great inside the stadium, which, by the way, is more than the Europeans can say. So there's a heat wave, right? I don't mean to laugh. In Europe. It really is hot. At first I was like, what is it? 87. But it's in the hundreds, I think. And it's largely in France, some in Germany, some in the UK.
Starting point is 00:39:48 What, 1,300 people have died? Is that in France? Or is that in Europe at large? 1300. That's just in France. Okay. All right. It's largely because they don't have ACs. Do you have that sound, Dan, of these euros talking about AC? There was no sound. Do we have that? Because they speak in different languages. No, I saw a French lady speak in English. She was blaming.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. Oh, I didn't see that. I was looking for it. Yeah, you got to have a producer. You got to have a producer that knows that stuff. What a show. She was blaming it, Dan, on a. Well, first of all, you got the deputy mayor of Paris, who blamed it on Americans.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And then this person was saying, AC makes it worse. So AC makes it hotter outside. So by cooling, and I guess that's technically true if you're standing right by the condenser outside. It does kind of blow some hot air, like if you're right by the condenser. But I don't think it's making the climate hotter. Hey, look at me. I'm stupid. You can tell I'm stupid by looking at me.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I mean, it's my whole life. And I understand this. If it's hot outside and you got air conditioning inside, if you don't want to be hot, you go inside. So why, if you have air conditioning inside, are you standing outside worrying that it's hotter? Look, I think one of the things that people have learned in coming to America are the little things that actually, are big things. And air conditioning is a massive thing. It is. You mentioned a number of people that die. People in cities all across the United States, when we have these heat waves this time of year, do as well. But it really, if you can prove to me that air conditioning inside makes it hotter
Starting point is 00:41:48 outside, God bless you. But you know what? This is a real problem in our cities. It's a real problem, obviously, in FAS. And it's an incredibly sad situation. But I I'm not going to go with air conditioning inside, makes it hot or outside. I don't think my air conditioning has anything to do with what's going on down the street. This is what it was. This is an interview with ABC, this person, Van Vandekisteel. She said this in English, Patrick. My honest response is I don't think that should be the solution anywhere, speaking of air conditioning.
Starting point is 00:42:22 In the longer term, what happens is installing more air conditioning actually emits more heat into our environment. will actually increase the speed of warming. And she says, we're not doing this for us. We're doing this for future generations. These people are in a cult. They're in a complete cult. Climate stuff has totally died out here. And many people point out, the Europeans are terrified of air conditioners,
Starting point is 00:42:52 but not of a Muslim cultural invasion of the continent. You know, I don't get a lot of this. I don't. There are so many videos. You've seen them. There's so many videos of Bernie Sanders or particularly Al Gore. Here's one thing I've never understood, and I would like you to answer this for me. I've never understood Greta Thornberg.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I've never understood any of that mess. I've never understood why somebody becomes a spokesman at like 10 years old for global warming. And now as we move it forward, we see all of these predictions are total bullshit. So, look, I get it. You mentioned a cult. You're probably right. It seems to me that if you are promoting this, you are in some way making money from it. That's the way I look at it.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Well, that's just to manipulate you. If you get somebody young enough, Patrick. So you get somebody young enough to promote it, it makes people feel emotional about it. There's an emotional connection. It's a child. and so it's a manipulation tactic. Mostly to target women. By the way, this is what Europeans think is happening.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I know, I saw this. I loved this. Wow. Yeah, that's a hell of a breeze going across an ocean, but, eh? What are you going to do? That's when I, where do I get that air conditioner? That's a great air conditioner right there. Okay, Dan, let's move to,
Starting point is 00:44:23 to WNBA. Dan, are you friends with Emmanuel Lacho? I was. Emmanuel and I haven't spoken in a long time. We were,
Starting point is 00:44:35 we crossed past at ESPN. I had a very friendly relationship with Emmanuel. He's a nice guy. He certainly since 2020 has branded himself, fashioned himself into a bit of a sports intellect,
Starting point is 00:44:50 you know, very, what's the right word? earnest conversations. I mean, his thing was, what was it? Was it honest conversations with the black guy? Uncomfortable conversations with a black man. Uncomfortable conversations with a black man.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yes. Now he's on a show called Speak Easy. And here's what he said about Caitlin Clark and the WNBA. The W at this junction in time would be better without Caitlin Clark because she is a bigger distraction than she is an additive. Caitlin Clark has gotten the WNBA over the necessary threshold they needed. Now people are watching. Now we realize, oh, there's talent in the W.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Talent that's actually even greater than Caitlin Clark. And I'm not just talking about Biggs like Asia. I'm talking about the Olivia Miles. I'm talking about the Paige Beckers. Hell, I'm talking about the Kelsey Mitchells. Caitlin got the necessary eyes there. But now that the eyes are there, we don't necessarily need her anymore. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:44 WNBA doesn't need Caitlin Clark, Dan. I think the opposite is true. I think people realize this is seventh grade kids basketball. I mean, I think they realize, wait a second, I hear how great these women are. Now I started watching, and, you know, it's not great. I think the absolute opposite is true. That would be like saying, you know, Michael Jordan became a global icon, and his shoe is distracting us.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Michael Jordan, the Jordan rules when the Pistons had to beat Michael Jordan. He's distracting us. Let's just be honest. Sports need stars. I've always said this, and maybe this is just me. Sports, I love dynasties. I like somebody trying to beat the Yankees. I like somebody trying to beat the Nick Saban, Alabama teams.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And sports need stars. Stars are what make us gravitate to sports. Now, the point being, look, Caitlin Clark did this for the league, and now everybody's wine. I always think there's a racial element to it. I do. I always think that, hey, and people say, well, why not Paige Becker? Okay, it's a racial sexist element.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Paige Becker's conducts herself like a lesbian. She walks around looking like Eminem or kids in play or whatever the hell. she's trying to look like. And I always think that. I just do. And I know enough people that sit close enough to the court at fever games to say, how many times can Caitlin Clark be called a white bitch, MF and white girl? I mean, it's ridiculous. The league has done nothing. So, you know what, it would be fascinating to me. If I were her dad, I said this last night on Laura Ingraham, if I were her dad, for the first time, I would start looking at other options. Maybe call up Ice Cube or ice cube and say, man, is that $5 million
Starting point is 00:47:22 or whatever it was still available? I think he's full of shit. I think he can put glass. What was that for? The big three? The big three? Was he going to pay her to come playing that? I think Acho's thing about uncomfortable conversations
Starting point is 00:47:35 where the black guy was simply to say, if you don't agree with me, this was in 220, then you're a racist. It's all bullshit. Doug Gottlieve said it best. Yeah. Even though he put on glasses, it's still a dumb shit thing that he said. and it is and it's typical because the league needs Caitlin Clark now more than ever. And actually, I would argue Sophie Cunningham has emerged as a face of the league.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Those two have become the faces and you can b-b-wine and moan about anything else, but it's all based on racism and sexism. They're not lesbian. They're straight white girls and that makes people crazy. Let's take a quick break. But continue this conversation with Outkicks, Dan Dockich, when we come back on Will Kane Country. So you said a lot of. there that I want to respond to. First of all, it's patently false. We know the ratings with
Starting point is 00:48:24 Caitlin Clark on the floor and on TV, and we know the ratings without Caitlin Clark on the floor and on the TV. Obviously, the league is not ready to move on with Caitlin Clark. It isn't though she delivered this huge audience and it stuck around for everybody else. That's what he suggests. That's simply not true. It's not true in the present tense, much less the future tense, meaning they don't watch other games except when she is there, when she is playing. You brought up Jordan. Okay, he's a great example. Jordan, after he retired, we saw the greater NBA ratings go down. They went down the minute Jordan was no longer in the league.
Starting point is 00:49:00 LeBron comes along, they come back up, right? When LeBron goes away, I don't know where the league is right now. Do they have a star ready to carry ratings? I don't know. Who would that be? Well, maybe. Wimbiena? Cooper.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Maybe, Wemby. Yeah, you know, to your point with ratings. Honestly, you're probably right, Dan. It might be Cooper in a couple years. Yeah. That's actually a good guess. We do have breaking news, by the way. I'll tell you this, though, if you want to go even farther to show you the, particularly in basketball,
Starting point is 00:49:28 because nobody has done a better job than the NBA at promoting individual stocks. Like the Major League Baseball, all you got to do is think back. I mean, a little bit of history when Magic and Bird came in. The league was dead. In fact, Magic's first year, 1980, the NBA finals, his great game where he jumped center and everything else. That was on tape delay. I watched it on tape delay. 1030 on CBS in Chicago and now all of a sudden, Magic and Bird get going. And now, boom,
Starting point is 00:49:55 here we go. Right. So, you know, the idea is to your point, historically nonsense. And Jordan is the latest or LeBron is the latest example, but you can go back historically. Bird magic saved the whole thing. Right. What's the breaking news, Patrick? So according, I believe it's Shams, is reporting this, that LeBron is coming back for another C. but not with the Lakers. So the Warriors, everybody saying he's going to be with Golden State, another super team, an old super team. Can I ask you guys a question? How about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:32 At this stage in LeBron's career, does this affect any bit of his legacy as a ring chaser, or is this just business as usual? And he's set in stone. Business as usual. reputation's already set. He can't do anything to hurt it. I thought about it. It's all upside for him.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He should go to Golden State. He should try to get a ring with Steph because he has no downside. Everybody already thinks that stuff about him. And if he adds another ring to his category, then he's got potential upside. So all I care about is, does this in any way help the Mavericks get Luca back in 2028?
Starting point is 00:51:12 That's what I want to know. I'll give you this to the point about Caitlin Clark and Ocho. Well, you think if LeBron goes to the Golden State Warriors, how many times you think the Golden State Warriors, who are a fading franchise? Let's be honest, they are a fading franchise right now with Steph getting older, Clay being gone, Dremont opting out. How many times you think they go from here right now
Starting point is 00:51:34 to here when LeBron signs is a free agent to the point of star power in basketball? I mean, you're going to get tired of watching the Warriors again. Yeah, they'll be on TV all the time. I mean, here's a question for you, basketball guy before we move on to something else. I mean, I don't think that does put the Warriors. Now, the conversation is, can they get Anthony Davis too? That's what they're trying to get, Anthony Davis and LeBron. But I don't think that puts them better than the Thunder. I don't
Starting point is 00:52:04 know about the Spurs. I know they just went to the finals, but I think they still have some growing pains to go through. I don't think this makes the Warriors one of the, I'll go this far. I don't think it makes them one of the three best teams in the West. I'd have to think about that. I think that OKC, I know they got beat. I do think the spurs are legit and that young talent. And, you know, Will, in the NBA, you got to go through getting your ass beat a little bit. Again, we're talking about the history. History says, you know, Jordan had to figure it out, Bird had to figure it out. Everybody got to figure it out to where you knocked down. Wembe is not going anywhere. I know people get mad at him and, you know, he didn't play well. He
Starting point is 00:52:42 didn't handle post game. Whatever. Dude's 22 years old and a freak. And he's got a couple guys with them Castle, Vassel, the other guy, they're pretty damn good. So I'm with you. It doesn't, this isn't LeBron 1999, whatever the hell, 2005. This is an old guy that's in great shape, is a really
Starting point is 00:53:01 good player, coming to a fading team with an aging superstar next to him. And, all right, let me ask you, when the Mavericks made that trade for Luca, I had a couple NBA guys say, hey, look, if Davis
Starting point is 00:53:17 can stay healthy. They've got one of the best, if not the best front lines in basketball. Well, Davis has never stayed healthy. So it doesn't matter. You can't even say if anymore. If they get him to Golden State, what difference is making? He's going to play 25 games. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. That's absolutely right. Let's put a button on Caitlin Clark. I think you're right. The race thing, you're obviously right. You're obviously right. It is interesting why, I've asked this, why is, Paige Becker's not, she's a white girl for everybody who doesn't know. She's good. She's not as good as Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Why is Caitlin Clark get so much hate versus, say, a girl like Paige Becker's? And you gave your reason. I think it's even more complicated. I think it is complicated. It is race. It is sexuality. Baker's, Clark is straight. Beckers is not.
Starting point is 00:54:15 it is um fame Clark is resented for her fame resented and envied for her celebrity and then
Starting point is 00:54:26 there's one more element I feel like Dan you brought up you know Becker's fashion but what I would say is and you know better than me because you're there in Indiana
Starting point is 00:54:35 somehow Clark got perceived as I don't know if the word is conservative maybe it's because you know, people say, oh, conservatives champion her. But she didn't bend the knee in a way that so many other girls did on BLM issues or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And that exacerbated all of this. But the weird thing is, I think she kind of did too, didn't she, Dan? She just kind of stayed out. She said she realized her- She didn't do anything. She just stayed out. She realized her privilege is what she said. Yeah, she said, you know, she said that, you know, I've worked for everything I have,
Starting point is 00:55:12 but I also understand there's a privilege here, which was a mistake. because you never do that. That gives an end. Do you think that slowed down, Alyssa Thomas, from knocking around her ass? No, you never give end to that. But to your point, Paige Becker's, let's just use her. Page Becker's dates an African-American girl or did date an African-American girl. She dresses in a certain way.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Caitlin Clark dresses in a more of a fashion, kind of a typical heterosexual female way, along with Sophie Cunningham, along with Lexie Hall. You know, the only person not talking about Caitlin Clark is Caitlin Clark. She just shuts up. And to everybody, like there's two different things. She's like the nicest person to deal with for the front office. But she's also a pain in the ass to the coaching staff, a whiner, a bitcher, that kind of thing. So, you know, both things can be true.
Starting point is 00:56:09 But Caitlin Clark has basically, she shows up with a boyfriend, Connor McCaffrey. She doesn't involve, she sits in the front row of games. She goes to things with a boyfriend and with Sophie Cunningham or Lexi Hall and dudes. She has not given into what the WNBA wants you to give into as a white person. She just hasn't given into it. She hasn't given into liberalism. She hasn't given into homosexuality. She just hasn't.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Not that she wouldn't. I don't. She just, she's one of the few people in sports. that's a superstar that just pretty much talks about the game, bitches about officials and does stuff game-wise and nothing else, and she gets killed for it. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Did Paige Becker's an Ozzy Fudd break up? You said was. I used to get People Magazine. I don't get it anymore, but I would have known if I got people. You said they broke up. They're still together. What's interesting about that, they're still together. Okay, thanks, Dan.
Starting point is 00:57:09 You're okay. Yeah, because actually, Dan, Dockich, That's something we talked about on the show because we don't do a lot of WNBA talk, to be honest. But I found this fascinating. Page Beckers was the number one pick by the Dallas Wings a year ago. This year, they drafted her girlfriend, Ozzie Fudd, number one overall, right? And nobody talked about it. Like the athletic didn't write about it.
Starting point is 00:57:32 ESPN didn't write about it. That's like a huge deal. You can't think of a locker room. It's not, the issue is not that they're gay. The issue is that they're a couple. And if you introduce that into a locker room dynamic, you have to consider what that means. What happens if they break up? Do we have a problem on our team?
Starting point is 00:57:51 What happens if they're too close? Does that mean the other girls don't feel included in the team chemistry? All these things. You would think a lot like this is a rational sports conversation, right? If Archmanning were dating Cam Coleman, teams would want to know, hmm, what if we had them both on our team? Does that have some impact on the team? it's a legit sports conversation. So when you say they broke up, I'm like, uh-oh, what's that mean for the wings?
Starting point is 00:58:17 The guy that made the call, Kurt Miller, is a longtime coach. And he's the GM of the wings. And Kurt's a friend of my. Kurt was the women's coach at Bowling Green when I was the men's basketball coach at Bowling Green. He comes in my office one day. And Kurt's about this tall and he's got this lisp. And he's a great coach, not good, a great coach. And he's pissed off.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I said, Kurt, what's going on? His two best players broke up. And neither of them will practice. And he's like in the top 25 bowling green. He comes in my office. He throws, doctors, I can't believe I got to deal with this shit. This girl. And they won't practice.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And they're crying. And he talks like that. And my assistants, and we're all friends, right? And my wife and him are great friends. We're all friends as coaches. We go out drinking. We go hang out. And he, I can't believe that you know what I.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And I walk out there to look. And his best player, who's like a third team All-American is sitting over there. They're all in practice gear. And his girlfriend, who's their starting point guard, is over on the bleachers on the, and they won't practice. So he, my point is. This was two girls. Two girls.
Starting point is 00:59:34 His girls basketball players. My point is he understands that dynamic, Kurt does. But nobody knows this. You know, but nobody, so nobody understands it better than him because he dealt with it in his first coaching, head coaching job at Bowling Green Women's Basketball. He's got his best player over here, his best point guard, and they won't practice because they're both hurt that they broke up,
Starting point is 00:59:58 and he's got a mess. And he handled it, and I think they went to Sweet 16. My point is Kurt Miller understands that dynamic better than anybody. So there you go. Maybe he decided it's going to be fine. Maybe you decided we can handle it. Therapist and coach. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 01:00:14 That's right. What's that? Therapist and coach. Therapist and G. Yeah, GM. All right. Outkick, which is the home of Don't At Me with Dan Dockich, has a three-part America 250 series. It's over the next three days on courage, grit, and sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And we have a little bit of it that we can play right now. I think that everybody should have a dream. of where he wishes to go. Not only in athletics, but in our everyday walk of life in which we live. Bad bunny, bad bunny, that's what it's about. This has gotten so out of hand. I hope I'm finding happiness.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Sports, culture, and the American conversation transcending the sidelines. What do you know about this, Doc? You know what? I've seen all three, and they're really cool. The first one's about the rise of college football and how college football came through the dust, Bowl. And the second one is really interesting to me. It's about how I think it was Teddy Franklin Roosevelt saved the NFL. I mean, I didn't know all this. And the NFL, man, it was out. It was
Starting point is 01:01:43 brutal. People died. They didn't want it. And the President of the United States Roosevelt saved the whole damn thing. And then the last one, that one that you showed there is about pop culture. Hey, Will, it goes back to like how sports and entertainment have collided. It talks. about Joe DiMaggio dating Marilyn Monroe back in the day. One of the guys, this is how weird and how big it was. One of the guys on the team, man, named Moose Skowen, who was a great player with those Yankees, he's told me one time, he said, hey, damn, man, I got invited to go to dinner with Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe. He said, I was so freaking nervous. I shaved twice that day. He said, I was kind of crapping myself. So these things are really cool. They're
Starting point is 01:02:27 really well done. Outkick did a great job. And I think if you're a football fan in particular, you're going to absolutely love the first one about how college football started, came through the Dust Bowl. And then the second one, I didn't realize, man, if you played football, you were kind of a pariah. It was brutal. They wanted it banned. And then President Roosevelt said, wait a second, we're going to support this because it's better than what you think. And now you see where it is. It's really good, really, really good three-part series.
Starting point is 01:02:55 FDR. FDR. No, I guess that was Teddy. FDR. How about that? All right, you can check those out at Outkick. Also, check out Don't At Me on Outkick with Dan Dockich. We always love having him here as part of the conversation.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Thank you, Dan. Good to see you, man. Thanks, my friend. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys, everybody. See you later. All right. There he goes, Dan Dockich.
Starting point is 01:03:19 All right, before we go today, I want to see if I can get my technology working here and check in with the audience really quick. Oh, I did. I got it. Look at that. Okay. Larry, this is over on Facebook, Larry Arnwine, political or otherwise, talking about the Supreme Court, their job is only to interpret the Constitution. I think that's exactly right, Larry. I'll be honest, I haven't read the majority opinion or Justice Alito or Thomas's dissent, but I want to. But that is the job. It's to interpret the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Donna Willis-Francis says, I disagree with their ruling. That door opens for anyone to just come across the border and drop their kid and it's a citizen. That's not what the 14th was for. I do know enough to know that Justice Thomas, I've read a little bit, he emphasizes that. This was not what it was about. It was about freeing the slaves, giving the slaves full citizenship right. Cindy Adams says on Facebook, the Supreme Court decision really let down America. While David Quiet says, it's not a major deal in the Supreme Court decision.
Starting point is 01:04:21 It was a weak argument, and they knew it. I do think it was always a long shot. David, I think it was always going to be a difficult Supreme Court decision. And like I said earlier, I knew what Justice Roberts would do. I didn't know what Tony Barrett would do, but I think I could probably guess. It was pretty obvious. And she, yeah, that's right. Because of her personal beliefs?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yes. Because of the oral arguments for me. And a pattern of her voting at this point. While Gene Hendricks over on YouTube says, Congress needs to fix this, but it will be a hard task. That's true. By the way, if Congress fixed it, it would re-put it in front of the Supreme. Court, and again, I'd have to read these opinions, because they could say it's enshrined in the Constitution, birthright citizenship. You know what I mean? So in other words, they could strike down
Starting point is 01:05:07 legislation defining birthright citizenship in a different way, saying that that legislation is unconstitutional. We have to read their opinion to say what they meant by subject to the jurisdiction there. I'm not sure the legislature could even fix this because it's enshrined in the 14th Amendment. So it's how they interpreted that 14th Amendment. Another law of TKO says, I support a Supreme Court, but I don't like their decision. This only furthers the need to close our borders permanently and remove unwanted guess. That's the truth. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Honestly, if you want a response to this, even more so than passing a new law, it is overwhelming immigration enforcement. That's what it is. Deportations, overwhelming immigration enforcement. That's the appropriate and doable response. Razzle-Dazzle says effing traitors. I want to know, see, Dan, Big Jep talking about rooting for Denmark. Has he come back into the chat?
Starting point is 01:06:14 I want to know what he says about what I said. I want to know if Big Jep disagrees that he would root for Denmark versus the United States. That's the key. not Denmark in general, but Denmark versus the United States. Let's button this up with that World Cup list. I didn't like that list you sent me, Patrick. The five friendliest cities in America hosting World Cup. No, I thought it was...
Starting point is 01:06:43 It was Dallas last. It wasn't even on the list. They didn't make the cut. Five friendliest cities for World Cup tourists. Sorry. I don't meet the last one. Go ahead. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 01:06:57 Go ahead, read on, Patrick. From five to one. Well, they didn't really have a number system. So, like, so it was like... It's just the top five. New York, New York, New Jersey was one of them. Which I... Fascinating.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I have a problem. Fascinating. That were nice. Already. Already nonsense. Yeah. Already. New York is a lot of things, but Friendly is not one of its top adjectives. No. No. Philadelphia.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You're buying that one? Come on. Now we're just making a joke about this. Philly's the worst. The literal worst. Right. I mean, not the worst city, sorry. Now, Boston.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Not the worst city, but the worst hospitality for an outsider. If you're from Philadelphia, I love how much they love Philadelphia. They're going to an Eagles game is a gamble. Right. Well, maybe it'll be nice to you on Friday, hopefully. Oh, yeah, I'm going to Philadelphia, right. Yeah. I'll protect you.
Starting point is 01:07:56 You know how Boston is. Super friendly. New York, Philly, and Boston. Are your three? I know another one. Another one you put in there is Seattle. I mean, come on. They're nice, but they're just on drugs.
Starting point is 01:08:11 That's why. Yeah. And then Atlanta, which, you know, Atlanta, which outside of like the actual part of Atlanta, the rest of it's pretty great. You got that Southern House. I like downtown Atlanta. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I would have guessed among World Cup host cities the most friendly. I do think Dallas and Houston would be up there. I think Kansas City would probably be up there. Yeah. Yeah. Tejas means friendly. Texas is what it means. People are welcoming in Dallas. I agree. People were nice down there. You were nice. You weren't welcoming.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You weren't welcoming at the Alamo. That's true. Good point. Well, they were attacking us, Patrick. Just saying. It's like that whole Denmark-USA thing. We don't mind. We'll be friendly until you attack us. But I do agree with you.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Celebrate Morocco on the streets of Amsterdam. Kansas City would definitely be a friendly place, right? I would think. What do you think the most friendly actually is? Like, unbiased? I think. I think the most... I'm going to go...
Starting point is 01:09:33 I do think Texas would be up there. I do think... No, you're confusing nice and friendly. Those are not the same things. Like being genteel or polite is not the same thing as being friendly. There's a warmth and an openness that sometimes, you know, being nice or polite is actually a cover for not... I, like, honestly, and I know a lot of you are my friends from the South. Like, it's like the bless your heart thing, right?
Starting point is 01:10:03 That's not the same thing as being friendly, right? Was it Midwestern passive aggressive? No, South's passive aggressive is hell, man. Yeah. But Midwest is more, right? Yeah. Like the Minnesota style. The Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin style is much more.
Starting point is 01:10:23 But I would say the South and Texas are. definitely, if we were putting a real top five list, I would look at those areas. And outside of those areas, I think Utah gets high marks, like Salt Lake City. The Mormons? My guess is, yeah, very friendly. I will say, if long as you're not selling Legos. The first time I went down to Texas and Dallas, I will say on average in every interaction I had with, like, weight staff and just everybody, everyone was nicer than where I'm from. On average, like as a whole.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Yeah. Everyone was more kind of just sweeter. Man, I went to Seattle. last summer for this soccer tournament, and you get a healthy dose of, of, I talked about this, of condescension and hatred with your meal, with your coffee. Right. You will get, I hate your presence here with your coffee, you know. So don't sell me that Seattle is friendly.
Starting point is 01:11:17 No, no effing way. Like, I don't care if you like this coffee. I didn't come up with it. Realtor.com came up with it. They're liars. Realtor.com. Fake news. They're trying to rebound.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Those are all the cities people are moving out of, by the way. All of them. They're at cell houses. com trying to do something about their business. Oh. They're just trying to get people there.
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