Will Cain Country - Cain On Sports: Mock Draft Extravaganza

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

On this edition of Will's Friday sports episode on The Will Cain Show, Will sits down with Senior NFL Columnist at CBSSports.com and NFL Analyst at CBS Sports HQ, Pete Prisco to break down the biggest stories from next week's NFL Draft. They look at which 6 quarterbacks could be taken in the first round, which teams they may go to, as well as what may shock fans on draft night.   Plus, the crew participates in a full first round mock NFL Draft. Did Will draft Dak’s replacement?   Subscribe to the full show on YouTube   Tell Will what you thought by emailing [e-mail]   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We break it all down first with CBS senior NFL columnist Pete Prisco as he and I go deep. We're going to talk, we're going deep on offensive linemen, wide receivers, and of course quarterbacks in the first round of the NFL NFL draft and then I apologize in advance we're going to try to make this work we're going to take all that knowledge and we are going to have ten foil pat

young establishment James two a days Dan and myself draft mock draft the entire first round cross your fingers here we go here is CBS Pete Prisco Pete Priscoe

Pete Prisco senior NFL columnist at CBSports.com and also NFL analyst at CBS SportsHQ here on the Will Kane show. What's up, Pete? I'm excited. I'm excited to talk NFL draft. I'm excited for it to get here. I'll be honest with you. It's amazing, Will, and you know this for being in sports. Well, the paralysis by analysis. I mean, they can actually move this up a month and get the same type of drafting they would get if they wait until April, which is what they do, because it just keeps it in the news cycle. You know how that goes. I love it, though. I can't get enough. I mean, it's one of my, I mean, shameless sports addictions. I read yours and every other mock draft draft. I do my own on mock draft simulators. I can't, I mean, I don't understand it psychologically, because I know I'm not alone. I think it's just like shopping for men. You know, it's like all 32 fan bases are filled with hope. We're all excited. We're going to get better today. I don't know. It's, I love the draft. Oh, I love it too. And believe me, when I was a kid, this is how long I've been around. this is watching the draft and playing attention to the draft. When I was a kid, we used to have to listen to it on the radio.

That's where it was on a Tuesday. You got your picks on the radio. That's how they announced it. Then when I was a college, you know, I went to Arizona State. So I was out west and they used to have it on Tuesday. And we'd skip school and have breakfast with the draft and watch it on a Tuesday because it was on a Tuesday. Nobody paid attention to it.

But I'm with you. I see the passion. I love it. And I understand it. I, you know, I'm a little. nostalgic for like I grew up in small town outside of Dallas but like just waiting for Goose Gosselin's you know mock draft and in the Dallas morning news and I uh and I loved it when it was on what was it used to just be two days Saturday and Sunday so you got up early on

Saturday and it was just like your entire day and everything was more precious then it was like okay you know you had to wait for that one or two mock drafts to come out and you had those two days Now, to your point, you're inundated with analysis and mock drafts. But at the same time, clearly I have a bottomless pit of appetite for it, because even though it was so precious back then, it's like fast food. I just consume it all, man. I just, I can't, I, it's less precious, but still valuable. I don't know. And so here we are today.

It's yours. You put out your mock drafts, as I said, I've read your mock drafts. So let's start with this. How many quarterbacks in this draft make it into the first round? You know, it's interesting you asked me that, particularly today, because I talked to somebody today, he told me he thinks six are going to be gone by pick 15. And I find that hard to believe. And this is somebody in the league, and I find that hard to believe.

But when you really look at it, I think four for sure will be gone by pick number six, four of them. And J.J. McCarthy being the one that most people, didn't have for much of the process going in the top six he will so you're going to have six go in the top i mean four go to top six and then you get to Atlanta Atlanta's an interesting pick when you consider they signed kirk cousins but he's not a long-term answer so you could draft the quarterback there if you want to and michael pennicks his name has been linked to him so that's possibility and then you get to who's the sixth quarterback that would be bow knicks do i think he's

worthy of a top 15 pick? No. But what if Sean Payton, who might see Drew Brees 2.0 in Boe Nix, besides he wants to take a shot on him? Then all of a sudden, you know, six quarterbacks go in the top 15. So do I think it's going to go that way? No, but somebody did tell me that today, which I found surprising. All right, let's come back to Bo Nix. I have a few questions about him in particular, but the four guaranteed to go in the first round are Caleb Williams. It looks like everything is, know, obviously pointing towards the Chicago Bears with Caleb Williams. Then you have Jaden Daniels and Drake May, North Carolina, and LSU, who seemed to be second and third.

You pointed out the rise of J.J. McCarthy. So every year in the draft, we have quarterback inflation. Guys rise just because they are quarterbacks and teams need quarterbacks. That seems to be the case with J.J. McCarthy. Like, I'm with you. I've read what you've written about your doubts about McCarthy and, and, and, you know, him being a first-round quarterback. I never watched him and thought, oh, my God, they better do something to stop J.J. McCarthy. But I will say, Pete, like, he does have this knack of making

the play that you need to be made when it needs to be made. So third and eight, and somehow J.J. McCarthy throws for nine yards. And I do wonder, you know, maybe I missed it, because the NFL's in love with them so much so that I'm starting to see, I think it was in your draft, your most recent mock draft. It's not Jaden Daniels and Drake May 2nd and 3rd. The J. he's not only climbed up to the obvious number four, but he's breaking into the debate of who's two and three. There's no question about that. And I don't see it.

I'll be the first one to say it. I've said it throughout the entire process. But you do see teams and personnel guys who love him. And one of the things you keep hearing over and over again is the New England Patriots love J.J. McCarthy. And I think it's going to go Caleb Williams, like you mentioned, one. then I think it's Jaden Daniels at number two, even though they brought all the quarterbacks in this week.

I think it's J.D. Daniels. And then number three, I think it's a decision between J.J. McCarthy and Drake May. And I think in the end, I think it will be J.J. McCarthy, at least as of right now, unless I get some late information in the next week. And if that's the case, then I think Minnesota makes the bold move to go up and get Drake May.

Minnesota has said to be in love with Drake May. You know, Kevin O'Connell really likes Drake May, but more than that, you know, the quarterback coach, McCown, coached him in high school. So there's a real link there. So I think that's the way it will play out. Now, which team makes the deal? Is it Arizona or do they stay put and take Harrison? Or is it the Chargers at 5 who moved down and allow them to take the quarterback?

So, as you point out, it could be six quarterbacks. If it is 5 taking the first round, I saw this put out by Fox College Football, well, 2021, five quarterbacks taken in the first round. 2018, five quarterbacks taken in the first round. That's the most, both of those two drafts since 2000, with five in the first round. But it's interesting looking at who they are, because of those 10 quarterbacks, only four remain starters in the NFL today, which tracks closely to what we know. It's a 50-50 proposition for a first round quarterback.

None of these guys, including Caleb Williams to me, Pete, are in that. that Trevor Lawrence, obviously Andrew Luck, level of this guy will be a starter in four to five years. For me, even Caleb Williams, if you're looking at those guys, and we'll just stick with the four obvious ones right now, I feel like it's a crapshoot, especially among Daniels May and McCarthy, who's the bust and who is on the right side of the stats of becoming a starter. Well, and I agree with you on Caleb Williams. as well. There's a lot to like about his game, but there's a lot of flaws in his game as well. I personally have criticized it. I don't like seeing a guy cry on his mom after a loss from a football

game, so that bothered me a little bit as well. But I think there are flaws in all their games. I think he has flaws. He holds the football too long. He looks for the big play too much when there's opportunities. Now, in fairness to him, his offensive line was terrible last year. He was much better the year before when he had Addison at wide receiver. But there are flaws. in his game. Jayden Daniels is the most improved player I've ever seen in my entire life. Like I said earlier, I went to Arizona State, watched him as a true freshman. He was okay, got worse, transferred, was okay.

And then all of a sudden, he's this great quarterback, and he's improved. And that's a good thing. I hear he's one of those guys that's the first one in, the last one out. I love that. But he's thin. And he's really thin. That's a concern. And then, you know, Drake May got worse.

And there were reasons for it last year. but he wasn't as good as he was the year ago. That's always concerned. So who's the bust? I think of the four, I'm going to pick McCarthy as the bust. I don't know if he will be a bus, because they all could be serviceable, but I don't think you're going to see two or three stars out of this group.

You might see one. Usually it's one star or one really good NFL quality starter, a guy that hangs around as a starter and ends up being a backup, and then one major bust and one guy who's nothing more than a, a backup for most of his career. But you're right. Track record history says one will be a bust, one will be okay, and the rest of them will be backups. Well, and it kind of sounds to you, to me, Pete, like you're saying, you think the star, if there is one, is Jaden Daniels. I do. I do. I would take Jane Daniels first. He would be my first quarterback taken. Now, you talk to guys in the league,

And every, and I watch all the tapes, so I keep up with it all. But every single guy that you talk to in the league says that they feel Caleb Williams is generational. I don't see how a six-foot-one quarterback like that can be generational, at least to me. That's the way I look at. Now, I have guys I trust in this league that agree with me, and they've said it to me that they don't see it either. But, I mean, they see it. He's a good player. Don't get me wrong.

I think there's a chance for him to be special. But like you said, the slam dunk. I don't see that as we did with some of the other guys that came out recently. So, yeah, and I look, history says I was one of the few in this whole process that was on Josh Allen, the entire process. I loved them. And people picked him to shreds, and we got the buffalo. They picked him the shreds, and he wasn't accurate.

And if you watch the tape, I always say he was throwing the bouncers and bartenders at Wyoming. That's what had cowboys. He wasn't throwing the receivers. The balls would bounce off their face masks. Well, he got the buffalo. he struggled early and everybody ripped them and then he became a quality NFL quarterback. I think you have to evaluate what they can become

and I think Jane Daniels can become a star. All right, so I'm going to be a smart broadcaster and I'm going to tease the remaining bits of this quarterback conversation for a little bit later because that's what most people tune in for to talk about quarterbacks. But my interest lies much deeper, so we're going to indulge some of that, but we're going to start with this. You said, you know, you talk to guys.

I've always been fascinated by this. You've been doing this for a long time. And, you know, I'm sure that you do some element of your own talent evaluation, watch in tape, you pay attention to the combine, but you also have to talk to scouts and to teams. And part of putting mock drafts together is not just where you think – this is what, like, again, Rick Gosson would always say. This isn't what I think should happen now. This is what I think will happen in talking to teams. One of the thing I'm always curious about, Pete, on this is how do you know when they're lying to you? Because they're definitely lying to you, right?

Now, that doesn't mean anything about your personal relationships, some of which I'm always. sure very valuable. Some of them are pretty hard to balance in this process, I think, because they're just hugely incentivized to not show their cards. So when you're talking to teams about what they're going to do, how do you know whether or not you're being played?

You know, it's interesting that you say that because I've been played before and got played by a guy that I had great respect for, and he had great respect for me over the years, and he played me. And when he played me, it made me look like an idiot. And when he made me look like an

idiot. I flew out there the next month and met with them and told them. I said, of all the people, why me? And he said, well, there was this, and I'm not going to get this specific, but he gave me a reason. We smoothed it over, but he played me. And so if he played me, you're going to tell us who? You got to be careful. You got to be careful. So there are certain guys that I really, really trust, and I've known for a long time, I don't think they would play me. But most of the stuff I talk to those guys about is the evaluation process more than where they're actually going to pick a guy. And you mentioned it. I do a mock draft, and it comes out next week on who they should take.

I do one of those. And nine times out of ten, I do better with that one than I do with my actual mock draft, which is weird, because you wouldn't think that would be the case. But I do do one. And that comes out next week. So, but you're right, it's more, it's not predictive. It's more of what I think they should do than it is predictive. well so that shows your instinct then if you're saying what they should do and it's reflecting what is reality the what they will do reflects that they're all trying to play in poker um when they're talking to guys like you are you going to tell us by the way i mean i i don't do things like hide my own curiosity so i have to ask are you going to tell us who played you

A former GM He told me that He was going to No, I'm not going to tell you Yeah Let's put it this way It was when Kyle He struggled with it

I could see your face You were struggling It was when Tyler Murray was picked Let's put it that way You can figure it out from there Oh, okay Yeah I'm assuming that means

you didn't think he would be picked, and then he was picked? I don't know. It's fine. We'll leave it there. You're right. You're right. That's the right right. Which is a weird thing to do because that was the first overall pick, right? So why do you have to play? That's the one pick you don't have to play. I mean, I don't know why you have to play with that one unless you're trying to get some trade value because you're not all in on the guy. I don't know. Well, remember, remember there was a baseball part of that. Remember, there was the baseball part of it. Remember? It was the baseball part of it. Right.

He's threatening to go play baseball. ball so that there's where i was i was used okay all right uh so okay so this is the part that indulges my own curiosity and anybody else out there who has you know such an obsession with the draft okay positions i'm interested in tons of offensive tackles uh we could say it more broadly offensive line because some of these guys by the way they all have like similar names it's a problem this year. Like Troy Fatano and Talisi Fawaga and then Olau-Fashnu. I don't know. Man, there's a lot of names with F's and vowels that make it really hard. And some of them can play guard and they all played tackle. So, you know, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. I own it. I talk about it always. And

so I've been paying attention a lot of time to offensive line and who will fall down the domino chart to possibly make it to 24. And almost everybody says it's top. Gaiton from Oklahoma. But I am kind of curious, like, do you think it will be a run on all these offensive linemen? I mean, to get, if it's, if it's Guyton for the Cowboys, that means probably six other guys, or at least five other guys have already gone somewhere between, you know, six and 23. So is that what's going to happen? Will there for sure be this run on offensive linemen in the teens? Yes. I think you're going to see a run on the offensive lineman. I think you'll see Alt will go first.

He'll probably go to Tennessee, unless the Chargers take them, and we know how Harbaugh likes big people. So I think Alt goes first. I think Vashano will go early. I think you'll see Latham go early. Mims will go at some point. I don't know when. You mentioned Guyton. Butano, a lot of people look at him as a guard, but he can play tackle.

Fuaga will go in there as well. I think he's a left tackle who can also play guard or right tackle. you're going to see a run on tackled. You'll see seven or eight of them go in the first round. But more than that, you know, how do you count Graham Barton, too? I mean, Graham Barton played tackle at Duke last year, but most teams see him as an inside player. I think he has a chance to go in the first round.

So you'll see eight, maybe the center from Oregon. He might go in the first round. You might see eight, nine offensive linemen going the first round. Something about offensive linemen. So you brought up, so Guyton is in this discussion, and so is MIMS. And for that matter, so maybe. the other guys like Latham and all, but they're just getting really gigantic. Like, they're getting, it's just, I've noticed it recently, and I think it's because I have a

nephew that plays offensive line at Clemson, and he's now working at center, and he's a huge kid, and he's aggressive, and he's a mauler, and he's smart. But I know how big he is. I mean, he's like 6.3, you know, 315, but now we're talking about at the tackle position, 6-8, 340, you I mean, these are legit Goliaths. They're huge. And guys like Mims and Gaiton, they have varying degrees of experience. So what you're doing, though, is you're saying all of these traits, huge NFL draft term, all these traits add up to the guy you want. But I do remember that draft, Pete, from a few years ago that had, I think it was the same draft that had Evan Neal, but it also had the guy from Louisville, who was gigantic. And Mackay – was that Mackay Beckton? Mackay Beckton was from Louisville. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and there was another one like Beckton, who I can't remember who was also like just a giant. But here's what I'm getting at. Like, Beckton hasn't been great, and he's had injury issues. So some of these guys, like – I don't think the bust rate is quarterback level, but it's weird how you can take all these traits and you still don't know who's going to be the starting offensive tackle in the NFL. Yeah, and even Evan Neal, you mentioned him. And he's been hurt and banged up the last couple of years. He hasn't lived up to the expectations yet either.

So you're right. It's a good point. But here's the other point, though, and why they get a run on them. You mentioned the size, but there's only so many big people on the planet, and offensive linemen will tell you this all the time, who can do what they do. There's only so many of them. And offensive line play has so deteriorated over the years because they don't rep. They don't get the hit.

They don't, you know, part of being an offensive line, and I'm sure you could talk to your nephew about it is working together on, you know, in sync and getting off your blocks and the timing of getting off your doubles and getting to the next level. And when you can't hit, and they don't hit in the NFL and they don't hit as much in college anymore either, it's hard to get in sync. And plus the college game is a different game. So it kind of makes it even more challenging for those guys. So the NFL offensive lines have really fallen off in terms of their play. and I think that shows up. That's why the value of the position,

if you can get a guy, lock him in, then you don't have to worry about that spot and you can kind of work on the other ones that I think there's even more value to that spot. Okay, two more positions I want to talk. So I'm always fascinated by wide receiver. It seems so deep. By the way, the positions that everyone says

are ridiculously deep are wide receiver, offensive center. You can find a starting level NFL center, perhaps in the fourth round of this draft, which is a need for the Cowboys. But wide receiver, you know, I know you, I've seen you put out some guys, you like the guy from Oregon,

but there's a lot of receivers that people seem to like. There's four or five at the top, and then that's before you get to, like, the two guys from Texas, Brian Thomas from LSU, Ladd-McConkie. It's just like, I don't know. As much as I like a lot of these receivers,

it feels like it's so deep, Do you need to take, you know, I'm trying to think who's in the middle ground between Brian Thomas and Romeo Dunezay. I'm trying to think somewhere in that ground, it's like, why do I need to? Okay, so Mitchell's in, so Adonai Mitchell from Texas. What's the drop off from Mitchell to the guy I can get in the third round? Well, when you look at it, there's only so many big receivers, too. I mean, you can get the smaller receivers in the second and third round.

And I like a lot of those guys, by the way. You know, there's a lot of good smaller receivers in this draft. But if you want to get a big, like, you know, Mitchell's a big physical receiver. I think when you look at Thomas at LSU, big physical receivers. So those guys are probably going to go in that area. You mentioned McConkey. McConkey's an interesting guy. Boy, he's a good football player.

But in talking to people even today, he's going to get overdrafted because of the saxon things that you just talked about. There are a lot of guys that you can get in the second and third round, but people are going to overdraft him because they don't want to wait. You're right, though. They're going to see a run-on receivers. It's a deep receiver group. I mean, it really is across the board.

You mentioned Franklin. A lot of guys don't like Franklin because he's skinny. But he's going to put on weight, and he puts the fear of God, defensive backs with that speed, the ability to just take it to the house. There's a big value in that. A smart team is going to get a good player. And could you imagine that in him to the chiefs? If the Chiefs are sitting there at the back end of the first round

and getting a speed guy like that, that would be incredible for them. So I do think you're going to see a big run on receivers. On that note, like Xavier Worthy is fascinating to me. I mean, I'm a Texas fan as well, so I watched Worthy, but then he goes and run, and he's good. He's good. And the thing about drops, it's not, I think that's nonsense.

He was hurt the year he had drops, and when he's healthy, he's caught the ball. But he runs a 4-2-1. And so, I mean, and he's skinny. By the way, he just fits almost every profile you just said. He terrifies me on the Chiefs. But how high will he go? Where do you think Xavier Worthy will be drafted?

I think he's had a chance to be the back end of the first round. I think Mitchell has a chance to be probably the back end of the first round, as does Franklin. I think all those guys are in that group. I think you'll see the little run there at the back end. A lot of those teams, the good teams need receivers. You know, Baltimore needs another receiver. If you look at the Ravens and so, you know, they like to get another guy for, Lamar Jackson that passing game. So you're going to see a little run on wide receiver there

into the back end of the first round, into the early part of the second round. And you mentioned there's a lot of those guys are going to go in that area right there. All right. So the other position I wanted to ask you about is all we've talked about is offense. And honestly, that's because offense is kind of dominating mock drafts between quarterback, wide receiver, and offensive line. You're eating up into the, I mean, with a few exceptions here, you're eating up into the 20s. And so there will be defensive players, a couple of cornerbacks, and Dallas Turner, the defensive end from Alabama. But what I'm always curious about is when drafts go like this, somebody is going to get a really good player, like a defensive player, that we're going to look back on this and go, how did he go 12th? Like, that's what happens, you know, because everybody is making this run on these offensive positions.

I don't know if I need a defensive player and I'm drafting like, you know, 13th, 14th, I'd be getting kind of excited. I don't know who that is, Jared Verst, the defensive end from UCLA or who it is, but somebody is going to be underdrafted on defense. No question. To the corners. I mean, you know, Mitchell, the corner from Toledo is a really good player. And Arnold is a heck of a player.

I think they're the top two corners. But you mentioned LATU, LATU has the medicals. And if your team checks them out on his medical. then I think you're going to get a heck of a player. That's the guy to keep an eye on as the steel. You mentioned it 11, 12, 13. If your team passes him on his medicals and you're okay with him, your doctors say it's okay, he's a hell of a pass rusher.

You're going to be getting a star pass rusher for a long time if the medicals are cleared. And we don't know that. You've heard teams are good. Some teams might, some teams might not. And I'm a big believer in you can clear a guy if you want to. You know, they all act like, well, our doctors didn't clear them. If you want him to clear him, you'll clear them.

So I think he's cleared for a lot of teams, and a team who gets him is going to get a heck of a pass structure. All right, so I'm going to get your predictions on two things. The player that will shock everybody goes higher than every mock draft is predicting and everyone is expecting. Who will be that player? We're like, wow, they really reached, whether not they did or not, the perception will be, they really reached for that player.

Pennix. I think Michael Pennix is going higher than everybody thinks. thinks he is. You know, there's a lot of people don't happen in the first round. Yeah. I wouldn't think, actually, right now he'd go in the first round. We're going to come back to quarterback then in a second. So who's the player that everybody thinks is going to go really high, but we're going to be shocked when he's sitting in the green room, maybe even into day two? Well, that's a tough. I'm going to take a guess and say MIMS. I think there's a ton of ability on MIMS, but he hadn't played a lot of football,

and that's concerning, and there are some scouts who think he's a little lazy, and I watch the tape, I see what they're talking about, but there's also a lot to like. That's why back end of the first round, if you take MIMS, you might end up with one of the best tackles in the league, but he also might end up with a guy

who's never really a quality starter. There's a lot of risk there, but he has a lot to work with. He just hasn't played a lot of football. Gosh, I hope he doesn't get past 24 with the Cowboys. Okay, so finally, we go back to quarterback. You brought up Pinnix. So you liked Josh Allen.

I had a daily radio show on ESPN. I talked draft. I talk football all the time. Josh Allen's always one of the most fascinating guys to me because the consensus problem with Josh Allen was accuracy. And I would have quarterbacks come in, former quarterbacks, and tell me it's the one trait that doesn't improve, that you can't learn to become more accurate.

I think everyone is revisiting that now, because we've seen it, not just with Josh Allen, we've seen it with a few guys. We're like, whoa, that's not the 58% passer I saw in college. Now he's a 70% pastor in the NFL. But I'm wondering if it works in reverse, because you're not big on him, but I've read, to your point,

about six quarterbacks getting in the first round, Bo Nicks, what everybody loves, he's just accurate. He puts the ball where it's supposed to be. So does that accuracy translate, and people are accurately big on Bo Nix? I think Bo Nix, and watching his tape, there are concerns. There are times when Troy Franklin's behind the defense and he's waiting for it. That's concerning to me.

But there is also a lot to like about Bo Nix, to your point, he is accurate. He is one of those guys that can command his offense. And you hear from people in the league that when he really had that group rallying around him, almost like a coach on the field. And NFL people love that. And so I could see a team taking a shot on Bo Nix, like the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton, and making him part of their offense where they build it around them like they did with Drew Breeze. I'm not saying he's Drew Breeze, but I see those kind of comparisons.

He's a shorter quarterback. He's not big. He doesn't have a great arm. And remember, when Drew Breese, he's. came out of Purdue, he didn't have a great arm. He was accurate, but he didn't have a great arm. And he had a command of the offense, but he didn't have a great arm. Then he had the shoulder surgery. And for some reason, Drew Breeze's arm got better. Drew Breeze had a stronger arm after his shoulder surgery. And one thing guys told me, and I've asked Drew about this when I used to go

down there when he was at the Saints. He threw over a hundred passes one year where he didn't see the receiver. And I said, I asked him about that. offensive lineman told me that. I said, how? And he said, just from reppping it, knowing where he's going to be, understanding where the receiver is going to be, and throwing it. And to me, that's timing, and that's the kind of quarterback I think people think Bo Nix can be. And if that's the case, and Sean Tate's in Denver with a need at quarterback, you would understand if he took him. you know back in the day pete that's how i always understood quarterback play worked because again reference cowboys achman used to talk about that like i mean he didn't see the receiver was open

he knew that he was supposed to be in a spurt and spot at a certain time and looked for that spot and then boom irvin would be there by the time the ball arrives you know or somebody like that you do see a lot more quarterback play now even in the NFL where it's like see him open then throw it. So, I mean, I would think if Bo Nix can do what you just described, maybe he could be the sleeper quarterback in this draft on the plus side of those percentages. This is fun conversation. I always love it, Pete. Thank you so much. Remember, check out Pete at CBSSports.com. We've got the draft coming out, mock draft coming out, on what should happen before next week and check him out at CBS Sports HQ. Thank you so much, Pete Prisco. You got it. We'll be right back with more of

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and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. Just can't get enough. Love that conversation with Pete Priscoe, which went on another five to ten minutes after we finished recording about who the Cowboys would pick. going down four rounds deep. I can't get enough so much so we thought we might try something today here on the Wilcane show.

We might try our very own mock draft. Now, this may go terribly. This may go horribly. This may be awful audio. This could be a horrendous video. We're going to try. We're going to bring in the crew. We're going to bring in two a day's Dan, young establishment James, and tinfoil pat to conduct our own

mock draft. The four of us are each going to take turns drafting for a team. We'd have varying degrees of levels of knowledge here. And we have varying degrees of objectivity here. Don't be surprised if several Florida State players go in the top 10. We have an opportunity to try to have an interactive mock draft with two a day's Dan drafting first, ten foil pat drafting second, Young Establishment James drafting third, and pulling up fourth, me drafting for the Arizona Cardinals. We'll each take our teams. We're going to rotate through. We're going to do the entire first round.

We're going to put 20 seconds on the clock. Two days is going to monitor it and be our draft monitor. And we're going to make through the entire first round in timets. Are we up for this? Honestly, are you guys up for this? I think so. And if anyone talks too long, I'm buzzing you. Literally, I'm buzzing you.

So just be prepared. Nice. Yeah. Nice. I'm not as read up. I'm literally my guy Peter Schrager. I'm growing with his mock draft. I like him, so I'm going with it.

All right. Well, just don't be afraid to be independent two days. And let's just take a minute, just one, not even a full minute. Let's just take 10 seconds to acknowledge tinfoil Pat's new alt-right haircut. I know. I have not seen until right now, but he's gone full. Groyper, and it looks great, by the way. You know, regardless

of which stereotypical groups have, you know, commandeered this haircut, it looks good. Well, for the audio, for the audio audience, let's just, it's shaved on the sides and long on the top, just so you know, you know, you know, what the kind of haircut that is. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I was

that transitioning look before, you know, really long, and I decided to change it up a little bit. Yep, looks great, bud. God. Somebody, Buddy, put the guards at the Capitol. Tinfoil has got a new haircut. Where were you on January 6th?

I was drinking. Let's start this draft before we get into some terrible territory. We get some calls from Fox Corp. All right. Should I start, Will? On the clock. Okay. Two a days, Dan, Chicago Bears, on the clock.

All right, pick number one. I don't mind my quarterback crying. So I'm going Caleb Williams, number one. I'm okay with it. He can cry all he wants as long as he scores touchdowns. Well, he's not going to do that. Good luck with the fingernails. All right.

Look, I mean, so who's next? I have all the big boards, but I don't have the actual draft. Let's see. Good job. coming prepared. You are representing the Washington commanders with pick two. It checks out. We're going to go with Daniels just because

you know, they need a quarterback. That would be Jayden Daniels. Jaden Daniels. Yeah. Yeah, Pete Priscoe just said that he thought he's the best quarterback in the draft, that he's the home run hit. So congratulations, tinfoil. As long as he not playing FSU, he's going to rep your hometown team.

You get to represent your hometown team establishment, James. You get to pick at number 3 for the New England Patriots. And by the way, this would be fascinating. Who does he want? Does he want J.J. McCarthy? Does he want Drake May? Who are you picking as your quarterback, I'm sure? James. Really tough choice. Dane Bruegler has Drake May as his second best quarterback, but I just don't find May very exciting. Maybe it reminds you too much of Ms. Chibisky. And J.J. McCarthy is a winner. I think there's a much higher ceiling there. We've had good

history with Michigan quarterbacks. It's J.J. McCarthy. We're going to do it. We have 60 seconds on the clock, by the way, in the real draft. Too long. Too long. But you're going JJ McCarthy. No, we don't. 20 seconds on the clock. You're not Dane Bruegler, so you can make your pick.

And by the way, every single Patriots fan thinks that J.J. McCarthy, our hopes, is praying that he is your Tom Brady reincarnate. So I have no doubt the fan base will be clamoring for McCarthy over May, if that's the case. All right, that puts me at fourth. with the Atlanta I mean with the Arizona Cardinals and we're not doing trades in this draft Cardinals already have Kyler Murray so no need to then take the available Drake May by the way fellas that's going to be the hard part here you got to keep up with who's available good luck this is this is where this whole thing is going to see the wheels shoot off in all

directions I am going to draft wide receiver Ohio State Marvin Harrison yeah yeah that's a good one That's a great call. Arizona. Kyler Murray, love it. All right, I'm up. So I am the New York Giants that pick number sixth. No, you're pick five with the Los Angeles Chargers. It's already coming off the rails.

You know what? You know, if I'm the Chargers, I'm doing this. As a Notre Dame fan, I'm going Joe Alt, man. Offensive tackle. Let's go Joe Alt from Notre Dame. Okay. I like it, actually. Right.

And that's what Harbaal will do. Yeah. That's what Harbaugh will do. Yeah, I mean... All right. That puts 10 full back on the clock. Picks his. Yeah, I'm going to handle the New York teams, apparently.

Get all the New York teams. And it makes a lot of sense to me with the offense that they run to go with Brock Bowers here at tight end. Rock Bowers, wow. Wow. Okay. A lot of people like the surprise now. Vote a confidence. tight ends, but I think Dave will use them right.

Well, it's a vote of confidence for Daniel Jones. You're not going to draft the available Drake May. Already the cameras in the green room are focusing on Drake May because we've already got to pick seven and he hasn't been taken. We found our first dropper here in the NFL draft. All right, that puts Young Establishment James back on the pick at number seven for the Tennessee Titans. There's any act. I think in a real scenario, there's going to be a team trading up for Drake May here, but I think the Titans say that they see him as better than anything,

when they got in their quarterback room right now, and they take May. Taking Drake May. You think the Titans, you think the Titans take Drake May? Yeah. Since we're doing no trades, we'll go Titans. Okay. I don't think so. Wow.

I like the kid from Kentucky last year. Yeah, I, uh. Levin passes the money ball test. I mean, they drafted, yeah, what's his name? Will Leavis. Was it, Will what? Levis. What's his last name?

Levis. Yeah. Last year, so I think you're wrong, James. And you also messed up what I was going to do with the Atlanta Falcons at pick eight, because I do think they'd pick May to sit behind cousins. But that leads me with this. Do I go wide receiver and help out Kurt Cousins? Or do I do what we talked about with Pete?

Prisco today, recognize the falling value of a defensive player, and take, yes, Alabama-Edge Dallas Turner to the Falcons at 8. That's good call. I like that. That's what a lot of mock drafts have, him going, right there. All right. I'm pick number nine. If I'm the Indianapolis Colts, I'm going wide receiver.

I'm going LSU. You are, once again, you're picking for the bears at nine. What's going on? I'm doing so well at this. No, I'm looking at this mock draft and it's all trades, projected trades, and I'm looking at that. Either way, the Chicago Bears, I'm going, Caleb Williams is going to be throwing to Malik neighbors is what I'm trying to say. Oof. I like it.

Yeah. I like it. He's not going to get to Florida State cornerback. He's going to be okay. All right. All right. You're back on the clock. Back on.

You're on the back on the clock tinfoil. All right, Pat, with another New York team, the Jets. And who's falling right now? We're pretty much covering the picks. Romodun's. You've got a receiver. Is anyone writing this down? No.

I'll do it in post. This is going to be awful. In about four picks, this is going to get awful as we don't keep up with who's been drafted. Yeah, nope. Not even writing. You've got to, Odun. the wide receiver from Washington, and you've got a whole host of offensive linemen.

That's right. So I think Aaron Rogers has a lot going on with skill position. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to take some off the linemen to help him. Now that's the problem, is which one? And I think, because I can't pronounce any other guy's names, I'm going to go with J.C. Latham, Latham.

I can't pronounce his name either. So we're going to go with J.C. Latham. That's a nice pick. Okay. I like it, too. Yeah, not bad. You jumped up there for Bowers, fulfilling your name of conspiracy theory, you know, really looking beneath the surface at the real story of something. But now you kind of went chalk with J.C. Latham to the Jets. Putting James on the pick for the Vikings, I'll be the one that I guess keeps us on track here. Thank you.

For the Vikings at 11. Minnesota's been tied to a lot of quarterbacks. That's a situation that got a fix. this scenario they don't have a quarterback to really go after. I'm going to go with Ali Miyawana Fashanu, the offensive tackle from Penn State. Swore up that line before they find a guy. So that was the first opportunity to hear if Michael Pinnock's or Bo Nix jumped up. I thought about it. You didn't do it there with the Vikings. I'm just glad he took this guy, so I don't have to try to pronounce this name.

Yeah. James was practicing that during the show earlier, that name. Off the cuff. Say it again, James Melikamiko Wawa You can't do it again There's no way No, sorry, I got the song Stuck in my head

All right, well, you're up Say it again What is the name, James? Oliminawi Fashano It's not horrible Not bad Not horrible

Not bad Yeah What's the answer? All right I'm at 12 with the Denver Broncos Yeah. Hey, guys, remind me, who's the quarterback right now for the Broncos? Who is it?

Am I forgetting? Drew Locke. I mean, it was Wilson. No. Locks Wilson. No, he's not there. Who backed up for Wilson in those last couple games? Gosh, I feel terrible, but...

All right, let's solve it for him. Yeah, you might as well draft somebody. I mean... I think we've got to do it. Who did Sean Pay? I think I'm taking Michael Pinnock. No, I'm not. Whoa.

I'm taking Bo Nix. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Bo Nix, quarterback, Oregon to the Broncos at Pick 12. That's right. Okay. All right, I guess I'm up.

Am I, the Raiders this time? Is that real? Is that what's happening? Oh, my goodness. Yes. At 13. I hope we make it to the Cowboys. Oh, my God, I know.

Who's left? Who do we got going on? Oh, there's a big one that's still out there. Let's see if it falls to me. You know what? I'm just going to go for it because I like him a lot. And I don't think he should be out of the first round. This is crazy.

But with the 13th pick, for the Raiders, I'm going, Michael Pennix, Jr. I think he deserves to be in the first round. Yes. He needs to. I like it. Right? I think he'd fit in there. Huge quarterback inflation.

Yeah. And he's going to fit right in in Las Vegas. Yeah. Now do you get to seven at the same? some point. I like it. Yeah. Why not? I don't think so. Okay, who's that put? That puts Pat on the clock for the Saints and I know you got to do it. I know you're going to want to do it soon. And the only question is, can you do it at 14 or do you do it at 18? And I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, but they need to do it. They got to have an edge rusher. They need

an edge rusher. You got to go to Jared Verse here. Here it is. You got to do it. The best edge rusher in the draft. From? Come on. From the Florida State University.

From Florida State. Yeah. There he goes. More passionate about James Winston, Trey Benson, and Florida State than anyone on the planet. Fascinating. Hey, if Denver had gotten James in free agency,

they wouldn't be in this situation. Just saying. be looking to win a Super Bowl next year. You know where he is? You know where he is. Yeah, he's in Cleveland. Do you guys in New York know where James Winston is? Cleveland. Is he? I did not know that to be quite honest.

Yep. Pick 15 James, Indianapolis, Colts. You got the number six over all guy on Mel Kuiper's big board still available. Romay adunesay, the wide receiver from Washington. Oh, that's a big dropper. Yeah, there's no way

he lasts that long. Yeah, no way. I totally forgot he was still on the block, but it's a good call. I don't know. I've been, I grew up Fallen Priscoe, and I'm a big, best-available player, and I just think wide receivers are kind of not the best available

necessarily. I would have dropped him. All right, well, 16, Seahawks. So, I got I got the Seahawks at 16. I'm just trying to figure out which of these offensive linemen have not yet been taken. and I'm going to take the local boy from Washington, Troy Fattano. It's a good call, you know.

Guess they're not going to fall to Dallas. That's kind of chalk right there, though, at that pick, too, which is not bad. It was pretty chalky. Yeah. All right, that comes back to me, right? Jacksonville Jaguars, pick 17. I'm going to go a little chalky. I'm going to go Quinnian Mitchell, cornerback at a Tull.

Alito fast. Yeah, he probably won't drop that far. No, he won't. Yeah, you have to take him at some point. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm going to follow up. James? Is J.C. Latham? No, Patrick. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Bangles, me. Patrick. I'm going to go with the best

cornerback in the draft. Cooper to Gene for the Bengals. Trey, pair with Trey Hendrickson. why is he the best cornerback patrick that's what that's what nick adams said so i'm going with that he's one of those first guys in last guys guys out scrappy players yeah coach's son he's a top five pick lunch pale guy yeah yeah lunch pale guy yeah yeah just seize the game just a hard worker coach's son type player coach's son's got a high motor yeah yeah and to be fair um not just nick adams but PFF also has him ranked date

so he's still pretty high on some places so it's not a complete crazy grab Big steak guy All right James where you at All right now you're up James with the Rams at 19

So J.C. Latham still on the board from Bama? No No So he's not Let's replace Aaron Here you'll mean to give you James I got it Here's who's available

Okay for the audience as well. Terry and Arnold, cornerback, Alabama. Talisi Fugga, offensive tackle, Oregon State. These are some of your highest available players

that have not been picked. And Byron Murphy, defensive tackle from Texas. That's who I was going with. Oh, a little Aaron Donald replacement. And is it Dan could see

it had it up, ready to go? He actually did. That's true. okay um boy this is dropping the cowboy's way here after a while but i'm not trying to manipulate it i just think it's you know you got to do what you got to do the steelers at pick 20 take a cornerback terry and arnold from alabama okay that sounds like something they do offensive lineman offensive linemen are dropping to me will i might have to break your heart here with the 21st pick with the Miami Dolphins.

To a tongue of ILO, it needs another receiver. I mean, he has Jalen Wally, has Tyreek Hill. But I might have to go Xavier Worthy out of Arizona, out of Texas for the Miami Dolphins. Are you serious? Straight speed. Yeah. That's a way. We're not doing that.

Yeah. No, I know. I just want to take him from the Cowboys. Well, I'm not drafting a receiver either, and the dolphins aren't either. Did you really just take it? Is that, are you taking him? I'm just messing with him. They need to go tackle.

No, I'm going out of Georgia. Amarius Mims, offensive tackle. Okay. For the Miami Dolphins. Okay. They need to protect, protect that QB and that knee. We'll see. We've had some crazy, crazy tackle drafts lately.

Is Talese Fulwaga still available? No. He is? He is? Yes. God, you're right. You said it. Lisi Fuaga has not been taken.

You said it before, although a lot of the names sounded like. Joe Alt went already. It's just, of those top guys, only Fugas available. Yeah, and you took Mims over him. Joe Alt's gone. That's all right. It's not crazy. As the Philadelphia Eagles representative.

Tinfoil Eagles. And I just heard him pronounce it. Delisi Fuwaga, we're going to have to go with them because they don't have a lot of needs. So you go best available player. I think you take a tackle. shore up that line and you know you getting older lane johnson's a little bit older got to got to go with somebody there fill that out that's a bummer all right is tyler guyton still on the board

on the best nfcese team out there Tyler guyton still on the board who is this the Vikings James yeah yeah we already took a tackle yeah but they're not taking guyton you're just doing it to mess with me. Yeah, New England. They're not taking Guyton. New England just traded up to that pick and took Tyler Guyton. Are you taking Guyton for the Vikings,

for real? You know what? I can't do that because they already took an offensive tackle. Could shore up and have the best line, but let's go with Darius Robertson on the edge. Just go best player available. Okay. Okay.

Not a bad pick. Okay. So you've passed on quarterback, right? And receiver. Exciting offense in Minnesota next year. And Justin Jefferson's short. He's gone soon. No.

All right. I guess I'm taking Tyler. I would have rather Fugger somebody falls to me, but they didn't. So I'm taking Tyler Guyton for the Dallas Cowboys at 24, offensive linemen, Oklahoma. Let's roll. Wow. Wow. That is a pick if I ever saw him.

All right. Let's finish out the first round. This is horrific, and everybody's already turned it off, so we'll do it for our own amusement. Let's finish out the first round. I'm glad the Packers went to me because I am a Packers fan, and I'm going with a guy who looks like he would be great for the Packers. Georgia-wide receiver, Ladd-McConkey is going to the Green Bay Packers. Oh. They need receiver.

Xavier Worthy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A.D. Mitchell. I like him, and he looks like a guy that Jordan Love would just love to throw to. I'm going loud But Mitchell has diabetes So you've got to factor that in Wow

Hey I That was the That's the thing Huh? Yeah something like that I saw it I saw it I said

Patrick When his person When his blood sugar is low His personality is really difficult To deal with I read it You got to have a snickers Sounds like someone else I know over here

Just kidding Okay boy Got the Buccaneers By the way real quick And we're going to finish this off all right we're going to finish this off but real quick

it's funny how you do this you end up drafting just by stereotype you took Ladd McConkey because you thought about like all those white wide receivers Jordan Nelson's my guy

Jordy Nelson yes I thought you want man he's a guy I absolutely did I mean to but I didn't mean to but I didn't mean to my bad

is that the only place that they actually worked out in the NFL like in Green Bay I have no because like New England don't really work out.

Maybe New England. Yeah. I mean, that's it. Remember those catches Danny Amadola made against the Jaguars? Not really. All right, Patrick. Well, wide wide receivers are on a hot run

in Green Bay, New England, and with the Rams. True. Damn. True. Cooper Cup. Amandola was with the Rams before. Patrick.

All right, so we got the bucks. Bucks. Now, it's tricky. Nate Wiggins is still on the board, right? I think, yeah. Yeah. Cornerback. I mean, I'm going to have to probably go,

oh, you go with Nate Wiggins for them. They seem okay at wide receiver. They just resigned Evans, so they'll be okay. Okay. James. I was trying to decide if the clock had run out yet on that pick. Arizona? It was close.

Who do they take earlier? They took a tackle? Quarterback. I'm completely off the rails on whoever I picked this entire time. Let's go with Xavier Worthy. Okay. I like it. Wait.

Who did you just pick for, Arizona? Yeah. Yeah. I picked Marvin Harrison for him earlier. Yeah. They're going to be stacked. Do you go two wide receivers in the first round for Arizona? Then you're going to, no.

We're going to go with Edgar and Cooper, the linebacker out of Texas A&M. A linebacker in the third round, but nice. I like the aggressiveness. Not according to Melkuyper Jr. Third round pick made in the first round? Melchiper Jr. He's got him at 31. All right, Will.

Todd. All right, Buffalo Bills pick 28, replacing Stefan Diggs. You guys have passed on Worthy. You've passed on Mitchell. and passed on Brian Thomas. I'm taking Brian Thomas to the Buffalo Bills. Wow. L.C.?

That's a mature answer. All right. Okay. It is. So I'll go pick 29 Detroit Lions. I'm going with the coolest name of the first round. Cool-Aid McKinth Street. Cornerback Alabama.

It is a cool. I have to. It's fantastic. It's a good one. Does anyone know the backslash? story well no i'm going to do this because i just i want to uh solicit i mean it's the end of the first round i want to solidify my homerism and you know the ravens don't seem to need a lot of stuff they absolutely don't need a wide receiver they don't need a defensive tackle

they need defensive tackle that's braden fisk all right a cannonball in the middle of that line best defensive tackle second round pick and made in the first round yeah what gosh he will not go in the first no

oh he'll go at the end of the first two more let's kill this let's kill this dead horse James come on San Fran yep all right let's go with Jordan Morgan

offensive tackle out of Arizona shores up the line for another few years okay all right so here's what's happening in the first round according to the Will Cain Show mock draft.

You've been boarded tears. The offensive centers have been dropping like a stone. The two Texas wide receivers are available for Kansas City for the last pick, Xavier Worthy and A.D. Mitchell. There's an FSU guy there, too. A couple of Florida state players, highly overdrafted. White wide receivers really valued. This is your summary of the first round,

leaving the Kansas City Chief to replace Tyree Kills. one year removed with Xavier Worthy, the fastest man in the NFL, pick at 32. We apologize for the amount of time that you gave us. What's up, Patrick Sullivan? Thank you for hanging through. Those of you are still listening. And that's going to do it for us today here on the Will Kane show. May God have mercy on our souls.

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