Will Cain Country - Caitlin Clark Snubbed! PLUS, Is President Biden Holding On Too Long?

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Story #1: The most resentful, racist, and dumbest decision made by the U.S. Women's Basketball Committee in leaving Caitlin Clark out of the Olympics. Story #2: Would former President Trump really a...rrest his political opponents if he gets back into office? Is President Biden putting his party at risk like former Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg? That and more with the 'Lunch Break Panel,' Gen Z Influencer Link Lauren and comedian Vince August. Story #3: Airing out the dirty laundry. Will, the Willitia, and Tyrus address the tension caused by the Celtics-Mavericks NBA Finals Matchup. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, the most resentful, the most racist, the dumbest decision made by the Olympic Women's Basketball Committee, leaving out Caitlin Clark. Two, is Donald Trump going to arrest Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? We break it down with our lunch break panel. And three, airing out the dirty laundry, clearing out the room on the Will Cain Show. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always on demand wherever you get your audio entertainment. Hit subscribe at Apple or Spotify. Hit subscribe on YouTube, and you can always hang out with the Will Cain Show.
Starting point is 00:00:57 go back and watch past full episodes or get exclusive interviews, like our interview with former President Donald Trump, which has now been seen over 1.4 million times on YouTube. Coming up a little bit later in the show today, we've got some air to clear. The Dallas Mavericks are down, 02, to the Boston Celtics in the NBA finals. And two a day's Dan, young establishment, James and tinfoil, Pat, I don't know. if you can read between the lines of the inter show text chain but there is some
Starting point is 00:01:33 tension bubbling I feel tense I'm not happy with one particular member of our show staff and it's time that we air this out it's time we take the laundry all right here we go put it on the clothes line and let it see the light
Starting point is 00:01:49 of day this threatens to metastasize to tear this show apart and if certain individuals quite honestly don't get their crap together this is going to be um a cancer that destroys the will cane show so i try we're going to have to deal with this i've been trying to stay out of it as much as i can i just let it happen yeah i can see the silence is a reflection of the tension is not going unnoticed what started out with a bevy of text has dwindled into silence and that's
Starting point is 00:02:24 good that means you're picking up what i'm putting down and i'm putting it down. And I'm not happy about the NBA finals. I'm not happy about the Mavericks down 02 to the Boston Celtics. But I will say, I'm super impressed with the Celtics. We're going to deal with this in the final segment of today's Wilcancho. I'm super impressed with the team. I'm super impressed with the coach. Joe Missoula, by the way, has studied under, I think, maybe the greatest coach, perhaps in professional sports, but certainly in the world of soccer, Pep Guardiola of Manchester City. And he's just done a phenomenal job in this series. He's calling timeouts at the right time. He's got his defense incredible. Just shutting down Kyrie Irving and containing to some
Starting point is 00:03:08 extent, at least tiring to some extent, Luca Donchich. But I really impressed as well with this question that was asked to Joe Missoula after game two of the NBA finals. I want you to listen to this question and listen to his response. Hey, Joe, Benzgo or Yahoo Sports. For the first time since 1975, this is the NBA finals where you have two blackhead coaches. Given the plight, sometimes the black head coaches in the NBA, do you think this is a significant moment?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Do you take pride in this? How do you view this or do you not see it at all? I wonder how many of those are been Christian coaches. David Aldridge? And the room fell. silent. Joe Mozilla, head coach of the Boston Celtics, declining to, I think, indulge identity politics. I think what's left unsaid there, what I appreciate so greatly, is by pivoting to, I wonder how many of those were Christian coaches. Yes, he tells us what's important to him,
Starting point is 00:04:09 but he also says something about the way we identify in society, that we have leaned so heavily into our most superficial characteristics. I think what he says, and I'm sure he doesn't reject his identity, but he doesn't use his skin color as his definition. Instead, he pivots to, I wonder how many of those coaches were Christian. I think revealing how he primarily identifies and asking, I think, all of us to think deeper about individuals. And what deeper sense of identity can you derive than your spiritualism instead of your skin color? Man, really, really impressed with Joe Missoula. And not just as a basketball coach, but as a human being. I think there's something for everyone to learn, to witness, and to emulate, not just in the world of basketball, but in society.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Let's, though, take Joe Missoula and his lesson and see if we can't apply it to the world of women's college basketball. Let us start with story number one. And perhaps the most resentful, the most openly racist, and the most deeply racist, and the most dumbest decision imaginable. The committee of the U.S. women's basketball team to participate in the 2024 Olympics in Paris has decided not to include the leading score of all time in women's college basketball, phenomenal rookie, and international superstar, Caitlin Clark of the Indiana fever. Caitlin Clark is, I think, without a doubt,
Starting point is 00:05:49 one of the top 12 to 14 women's players in the world, certainly in the WNBA. She ranks in the top 75% of almost every statistical category that you would measure when it comes to guard play. She's in the top, I'm talking about the top 75% of the people selected for the women's Olympic basketball team. So she's better than 75% of the women in most of these statistical categories. Point scored, assists.
Starting point is 00:06:18 She even ranks highly in rebounds for a guard, averaging something close to six rebounds a game. She's a threat, and then again the top statistical category when it comes to three-point shooting. Caitlin Clark is on the merits, an Olympian. But even if it was a close call, it's just absolutely brain dead, brain dead, dumb. to leave off Caitlin Clark for years for years
Starting point is 00:06:45 we've heard women complain about the fact that they don't receive the attention or the treatment of men not just in basketball but in really
Starting point is 00:06:52 any sporting endeavor you can hear arguments about equal pay you can hear arguments about mode of travel do we fly coast do we fly first class to we fly private
Starting point is 00:07:00 when the bottom line truth is sports is an entertainment product not so different from movies and you're going to be judged by the box office How many butts do you put in seats and how many eyeballs do you attract to the television?
Starting point is 00:07:13 And no one has ever attracted more eyeballs to women's college basketball or women's basketball than Caitlin Clark. Her initial ratings in the WNBA seem to suggest she's forcing them to change stadiums from 3,000 person seat venues to 20,000 person seat venues. She's getting in the millions of viewers for a sport that was totally bereft of audience. It's subsidized by the NBA. It's not a profitable venture. And here comes along, not just a superstar, but a savior. You could argue that Caitlin Clark is one of the most recognizable names and stars right now in basketball. Who we have in the NBA finals?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Luca Donchitz, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, Kyrie Irving? I'm telling you, while she's not not be quite on the level of Kyrie Irving, she's getting there. Caitlin Clark. And there is no other women's player even in the realm. of potential audience. And the women's Olympic basketball committee made up of five individuals, and it's worth knowing who these five individuals are. On the committee to select the Olympic team,
Starting point is 00:08:22 it includes South Carolina head coach and former U.S. coach, Don Staley. Simone Augustus, an LSU assistant, Delicia Milton Jones, the head coach at Old Dominion, Jennifer Rosati, the president of the Connecticut Sun, and Bethany Donovan, WNBA head of league operations, have decided it's in the best interest of their sport, of the Olympics, to leave out Caitlin Clark. This is just chock full of resentment. I think the resentment is wide. I think it could cast a wide net as the source of the resentment.
Starting point is 00:09:02 All of a sudden, she receives all this attention, and these other women have been playing for years. All of a sudden, people only want to talk about Caitlin Clark. They don't want to talk about anything they knew nothing of before the WNBA. And she is heralded as a superstar because she is a superstar and there's just petty human jealousy. You can argue that this decision reflects the worst characteristics of humanity, jealousy and resentment. And also racism. There is without a doubt a role that race is playing in the way that she is treated in the treatment of Caitlin Clark. I mean, this is a sport primarily dominated by black women in the NBA, black men.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And now the face, by the way, of both leagues is white. In the NBA, that's either Nicola Yokic or Luca Donchich. In the WNBA, it's Caitlin Clark. And there is resentment and backlash. You can see it in the way the players treat her on the court. You can see it in the response and press conferences afterward. But above and be all racism and resentment, this is brainwomen. dead dumb. None of us want to hear ever again about whether or not your flying coach or first
Starting point is 00:10:10 class. No one ever wants to hear your pay compared to the men in the NBA. Your savior has arrived at your doorstep, bringing along with her eyeballs and butts to be placed on televisions and in seats. You are there to finally create a market, a capitalist opportunity to get paid. And you pass. No thanks. Rather lean in to petty. jealousy. And even if you want to argue well, is she really one of the 12 best players in America? We're not talking about Anna Kornikova here. And Anna Kornikova was a good tennis player. She was good. I don't want to take that away from her, but her primary attention was because she was hot. You're talking about a player who not only brings attention, but can
Starting point is 00:10:51 play, is great. And she has said for her sake, that's fine. She told her coach at the Indiana Fever, they've unleashed a monster. I think the W&B has invited us all to ignore them. Ignore them at the Olympics. Ignore, as is part for the course and something we're used to doing, ignore women's basketball at the Olympics. What could have been a top three storyline? What? Simone Biles, I don't know, what else at the Olympics, and I'm an Olympic fan. Everyone would have paid attention to Caitlin Clark. They've invited us to ignore them, which we're very used to doing. Ignore women's basketball. And for that, they should never receive a serious conversation ever again about their pay, their treatment,
Starting point is 00:11:40 marketing. That's one of the favorite arguments that I'd make. WMBA would be as popular as the NBA if they would just be marketed. Well, you're being marketed and you've rejected that marketing. And in response to all of that, Kailen Clark has said they've unleashed a monster, but she said she responded this way to the disappointment of not being picked to the Olympics. honestly no disappointment like i think it just gives you something something to work for um that's a dream you know hopefully one day i can be there and uh i think it's just a little more motivation uh you remember that
Starting point is 00:12:14 and um you know hopefully in four years when four years comes back around you know i can be there hopefully in four years i can be there this is your savior because if it's going to bring us back it's going to be the class and the play and the popularity this is your lifeline this is your Life vest. This is the buoy that has been thrown to you in the drowning sea of attention. And I can honestly say, if I'm drawn back to it, it will be because of Caitlin Clark. Resentful, racist, and brain dead dumb by those that lead women's basketball. Let's see what our lunch break panel thinks about that conversation.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 You just go hit subscribe. Part of our community today is our lunch break panel. It's Link Lauren, a Gen Z influencer, former campaign advisor to RFK. You can find Link on X at It's Link Lauren. And Vince August, he's a comedian. He's also a former judge, and he can be found on X and YouTube at Vince August 21. Glad to have you guys on the show. Link, what do you think about what I just had to say about Caitlin Clark? Seems just resentful, racist, and to me, astoundingly dumb to leave her off the Olympics. Yeah, I feel like I'm the perfect person to ask
Starting point is 00:14:54 because I don't even keep up with sports that much, let alone basketball. But I know who Caitlin Clark is. I know Caitlin Clark is a big deal. And definitely should have been on that Olympics team. Also, in terms of branding and marketing, if you want to get your WNBA team out there, you want to get more eyes on the WNBA, why not put your money on the person who's the biggest star in your league right now?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. Vince, it seems, I mean, in your estimation, why? Well, I want to begin by thanking you for not discriminating against me, as I sit here with my piece of the parquet floor from the Boston Garden as a Celtic fan. Here we go. My piece of, oh, it was another piece of the parquet floor, autographed by Larry Byrd. So thank you for having me on the show.
Starting point is 00:15:37 No, but getting to the story. Look, it's a no-brainer from a marketing standpoint. You have to have around the team. From a pure basketball standpoint, I tell people, look, if you look at somebody like Michael Jordan when he first came into the league, was he one of the 12 best players that year, can make an argument not necessarily. Now he's the greatest player of all time, maybe in top three at worst, depending on who wants to throw in Kobe and LeBron. So purely basketball, I think it's good for Caitlin because it's going to give her something to work towards from a marketing aspect for the WNBA for women's basketball. It was a crazy decision.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It made no sense at all. It reminds me of hockey. I'm going to tell you why. you know, if you were the best darts player in the world, you would want to put your best foot forward. Every press conference you'd welcome the press in and you'd welcome every question. You wouldn't try to emulate those that have already arrived.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The best darts player in the world is not going to go up to the podium and act like, you know, Luca Donchich. You're not going to be short-winded. You're not going to be quick. You're not going to sometimes be irritable with the question. You're going to be appreciative at the very presence of the media. And everything that the WNBA and women's college basketball, rather women's basketball at large, does, seems to try to not necessarily be antagonistic to its audience or the press, but to emulate the NBA. And this is why it reminds me of hockey.
Starting point is 00:17:14 There was a time in the mid-2000s when hockey thought it was on the same level, the NHL, as the NBA or the NFL. And they started paying players, like similarly. And all of a sudden, like, hockey guys made as much as NBA guys. it took a couple years and they realized our market's not this big it took a strike it took a lot of things that hurt hockey and set it back and they had to readjust salaries to match their market and i see the w nba a little bit big for it's britches right now like you're not the NBA you need to be out there embracing everything that welcomes in an audience you need to behave like darts because you're more comparable to darts than you are the NBA you need to be finding ways to appeal to an audience and there's nothing more appeal to than Caitlin Clark, Vince. No, I agree with you. From marketing standpoint, 100%. Look, if I'm a fan of Caitlin Clark, though,
Starting point is 00:18:07 I actually think for her development as a player, this might be a good thing because the last time we saw something like this with a college player that came out that was a great white hope. I mean, Christian Leitner, and we saw him rushed onto an Olympic team, and he wound up busting so again for her development i don't think it was a i think it's in a help her game i think it's in a helper develop but yeah look i will no one can argue the marketing aspect of this she is brought eyes to this game that
Starting point is 00:18:45 weren't there before and if she's not on it well guess what those eyes are going to follow her and they're not going to watch right all right let's move to politics. Link, what happened since the last time I saw you? You were a campaign advisor to RFK. Now you're out with RFK. What happened? In the last two months, Will, it's been a crazy world. And what happened in the crazy world? Why are you no longer a surrogate or a campaign influencer for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? Honestly, the short answer is some of the core values, policies of the campaign shifted, and I didn't think I could be added there anymore. But I have total love for all the Kennedy supporters, like I have no issues with any of the Kennedy
Starting point is 00:19:27 supporters. They're great, amazing people. In fact, that's really the only thing I miss is going to the events and seeing the Kennedy supporters. And I'm still cool with Bobby, still cool with the campaign, but I didn't think I needed to be there anymore. Can I ask just as a follow-up? And I know I'm prying, but, you know, I just follow my curiosity where it is. What core policy differences did you find you differed with the campaign on? I think some of the policy around pro-choice, pro-life, some of the other immigration policies and things like that just weren't exactly my personal beliefs and personal policies. But that's totally their prerogative. It's his campaign, right? He's RFK Jr. He can run his own campaign the way he wants to. And I also felt like
Starting point is 00:20:08 it was time to just go be a voice for Gen Z, a voice for my generation without being in the confines of the campaign. And the reason people respect me in this business is I don't go and trash them. So I'm not going to sit here and spill campaign dirt. But I do wish them well. I said it when I left on April 22nd and I mean it today. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. And my answer is not so much for the gossip as the substance, but I appreciate it. I try to do the same thing, by the way. Even when I have deep disagreements or even some cases dislike, I try not to talk about
Starting point is 00:20:37 people that I've worked with in the past until they, I don't know, cross some imaginary line that it goes into the realm of necessity. Sorry, our campaign was already plagued with so many leaks. And then after I posted my resignation announcement, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, New York, every journalist is trying to talk to me, and I didn't talk to them, so I wasn't at any of those hit pieces. That's just not my vibe to scorch the earth or burn people, and I do wish them well. So yesterday, Vince, I was on an airplane. I got on a plane from New York to Dallas, and I sat next to this lady. I don't know why this, I find all of these details intriguing for some reason. She had on like Jordans, she had on like Jordan Lowe's, and I don't see, ladies don't. I mean, they do, but it's just not a common sighting white lady.
Starting point is 00:21:27 She was wearing a ball cap, and then I couldn't help but notice the entirety of the flight, pretty much. She watched MSNBC, and I was watching this other world, man, like in my side glance, and that world is crazy. Like, one of the lower thirds on what they were talking about on MSNBC was Congressman Byron Donald's, black from Florida, Republican. I don't know. I don't know the original thing of what he had to say, but the lower third said, Byron Donald's heralds that black family was intact under Jim Crow. And the conversation seemed to revolve around like, does Byron Donalds want to take black Americans back to Jim Crow? And I don't know, again, the details, but I can imagine him stating something factual. I don't know if he's saying causationally, I doubt he's saying causationally, but correlationally, it's true.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Black families were stronger in the, you know, 1940s. and 50s, and they have been in the 1970s and 80s, and there's a lot of different reasons we can explore for that. But to turn that into, he wants Jim Crutch. What an other worldly thing is going on here with this lady on MSNBC. And although this wasn't on MSNBC events, this was on CNN, this is the world that AOC is peddling to them that it would be like under Donald Trump. Watch this. It sounds nuts, but like I wouldn't be surprised as this guy threw me in jail. really he's out of his mind i mean he did his whole first campaign around lock her up like this is his motto oh he didn't say that you know he said he didn't say he's yeah right um he i take him at
Starting point is 00:23:07 his word i take him at his word i take him at his word when he says that he's going to round up people that is from the carous swisher podcast um aOC saying that donald Trump, Vince, is going to lock her up. It's pretty funny hearing someone say they take a politician at their word. First off, second off, I mean, look, this is classic AOC and really what we're seeing in politics now. It's deflect. It's the other side is going to do the thing that we're doing right now, but they're going to do it. And it's also, I think a part of it is she saw that what happened with the result of the,
Starting point is 00:23:51 the trial and the guilty verdict started raising him hundreds of millions of dollars. And she's like, wait a minute, I think I need a conviction. I need to be a target. I need to be part of this. I'm going to get locked up thing. Maybe I could use it as a way they're going to come after me, everybody. I need your money. Listen, I think she gets too much attention and to be stuck on a plane and having to watch
Starting point is 00:24:13 MSNBC or CNN at a corner of your eye, man, if there was ever a time you wanted a door to come off an airplane, it was probably there in that flight. probably were hoping it was a Boeing right I feel like with AOC every accusation is an admission I mean these people they say oh he's going to jail his political opponents isn't that what you're trying to do right now
Starting point is 00:24:36 I mean we just had this ridiculous case in New York the 34 felony counts so every accusation is an admission AOC also if Donald Trump said he was going to throw AOC in jail when he took office his poll numbers would probably go up okay that's a very positive thing So AOC is also everything she used to stand against.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know, she's supposed to be this progressive outsider. And now she's like hanging out with Joe Biden wearing aviators hosting events for him. So I don't take anything that comes out of her mouth very seriously. But your point- Nor does anyone else. Right. Link, I, you heard Keras Swisher there in that interview actually referenced my interview with Donald Trump, where he did say incorrectly, unfactually, that he didn't say lock up Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And that's the biggest thing in the world to them that he now is saying he didn't say that. But they're making this like the biggest deal in an environment where they literally are this close to locking up Donald Trump. Like they're literally doing, you said it perfectly. I saw David Sacks, the tech entrepreneur from Silicon Valley say kind of what you said, Link, that every accusation is a confession. And this week it wasn't just AOC. The Biden Harris campaign put out this like statement. text form, you can see it out there, basically saying what AOC is saying, oh my God, Donald Trump is going to use the DOJ to go after his political opponents.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Like, what is going on here? You just did that. Right. I mean, they're in a glass house and they're throwing boulders. So I think they're just trying to deflect, deflect, deflect, because that's exactly what they're doing with the DOJ right now. So all these ridiculous cases are just backfiring. I think the best thing for Joe Biden right now would be to have a conviction so we can actually go up in the polls and raise some real money. I want to stay on CNN, Vince. You brought up CNN. So this is a little bit more of a serious topic, but I learned some fascinating things this weekend about the raid in Gaza that rescued four hostages. And here's why I referenced CNN. CNN ran a lower third after this,
Starting point is 00:26:44 you know, shinbet goes into Gaza, incredibly rescues four hostages, including the beautiful young lady that everyone saw taken away on a motorcycle, and then a lower third that said the hostages were released, not released, rescued. And now, you know, Vince, there's this conversation. It's out there about whether or not this hostage rescue was somehow a violation of international norms or laws. I just flashed up on screen, and you can see it, and I'll read it for the audience. audience who's listening to us on terrestrial radio or Apple or Spotify, CNN's headline talks about
Starting point is 00:27:20 shin bet wearing a Palestinian civilian garb. They were undercover and that's a violation of international law. And in fact, this guy who's an international lawyer from the University of Sydney and he's not a nobody. I mean, he's like involved in like the international criminal courts. He tweeted some stuff about this like, you know, this rescue attempt might have put Israel against the norms of international law. I mean, I want to pull this up so I can read this directly because it's pretty astounding. He said, Israel's rescue of four hostages in Gaza, one, may have been illegally launched
Starting point is 00:27:54 in anticipation that civilian casualties would be excessive, and two, reportedly involved the additional war crime of perfidy. Never heard of it. That's disguising some forces as protected civilians. And again, he's like, his bio says, chalice chair of international law at the University of Sydney, United Nations special, I don't even know what these words mean, rapporteur on human rights and counterterrorism. So he's not a nobody.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And he's referencing, you know, 274 civilians were killed in this rescue operation to save four hostages. And many are pointing out, Vince, hey, isn't it against international law to, you know, take civilian hostages? You know, there's so many layers to this. And it's really hard to peel it back without having. to both sides it because on the one hand, look, I look at the people of Palestine and the fact that Hamas took out this action and, you know, they can sit back and say, look, don't judge
Starting point is 00:28:53 us Palestinians by the actions of the people that did this military operation. And they're right for doing that. Look, as an American, I would say to anybody, you know, 20 years ago in Iraq and as, what, 14 years ago in Syria, don't judge me by the actions of our government attacking a sovereign nation or Barack Obama bombing Syria on what turned out to be a lie with gas attacks. So I understand that aspect. The other aspect is, look, if I'm a family member of one of the hostages, if I'm of Israeli descent, you know what, you took hostages. You're going to reap what you sow when we now take military action.
Starting point is 00:29:36 rescue those people. So you know what? You brought that on your own people in a roundabout way. With regards to international law, I always find it to be a joke because what it is a joke picked and choose about which international laws we're going to enforce. I mean, go back to Vietnam and move forward. And wow, a lot of people should have been prosecuted that never were over the past 60 years. So, Link, I had this, my co-host, Pete Hegseth and I had this guy on,
Starting point is 00:30:12 and I'm granted, he's a former spokesman for the IDF, but he gave some color to this raid. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Fowda. Fowda is a series on Netflix, it's out of Israel. It's a huge, it's very entertaining about Shinbet and running operations in Gaza
Starting point is 00:30:28 and the West Bank, the counterterrorism operations. And for those listening, I don't know, Shinbet is, you know, I don't know, some cross between Navy SEALs and, you know, FBI, what do they call that, the international teams that drop in really quickly and rescue American citizens. I mean, they're just, they're top of the line, counterterrorism in Israel. And he said, truthfully, it's a lot like an episode out of Fowda. They go in, the four hostages were held at two separate locations. The one team, they take, they go in as a team, I'm sure they're.
Starting point is 00:31:02 undercover. I'm sure they're dressed, not in IDF uniforms. And they take out the guys, which included civilian spotters, and they get the three men hostages into a van, which is armored, but not protected against RPGs. And RPG takes out the vans. It can't move at that point. And then it's swarmed. It's swarmed by people. And it's, you know, yeah, Hamas and civilians, but it's indistinguishable at that point. It's all antagonistic. And then they call in the cavalry, both air and land. And yeah, 274 people die in getting these people out. And you know what my takeaway is, Link?
Starting point is 00:31:35 That's war. Yeah, it's not good. It's not pretty. But last week we talked about D-Day and World War II here on the Will Cain show. And we talked about civilian deaths. I mean, I think it's 20 million in China, 20 million in Soviet Union. This is what happens in war. It doesn't mean you co-sign, but please, with your international law.
Starting point is 00:31:54 You took hostages, as Vince said. Right. Now, we're freezing up a little bit of war. I can't. I don't know if you can you hear me. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead, Link. Yeah, I got you. I just said you're reaping the whirlwind of war. Yeah, no, there are a few different things going on here. Number one, we get conflicting numbers from Hamas, from the Palestinians, from our guys in D.C. like Jake Sullivan, we'll get vastly different numbers. Also, there's a deal on the table for Hamas if they want to take it. They're the ones who are hiding in civilian homes. They're hiding underground. They're putting the Palestinians in harm's way. And then the last thing I have to say, I know some people aren't going to, to like it, but it's just the truth. I don't think there's a parent, a mom or dad on earth who wouldn't go to extreme lengths to bring their kid home from captivity, right? If your kid is being held captive by a terrorist organization and they come to you and say, well, you wipe out X, Y, and Z to bring your kid home, I know my mom would say yes. There's nothing my mom wouldn't
Starting point is 00:32:45 do to bring me home. So it's very hard to put a price on these things. Absolutely. And by the way, like you, Lincoln, you're my connection, maybe freezing up. I'm still solid here. I'm sympathetic to the I'm sympathetic to the long-term solution here of how these two people can go coexist like I want I hope there's some type of you know I understand the world's inherently tribalistic this is the price this is what happens when tribes go to war
Starting point is 00:33:13 I mean this is just this is what happens hey Link I want to move back to politics if you're hearing me clearly I want to show you a headline from the Atlantic because I found it really punchy it's the headline is Ruth Bader Biden and it shows it's making the parallel between Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Starting point is 00:33:32 former Supreme Court Justice and Joe Biden Ginsburg held on too long link she could have retired under Barack Obama instead she passed away under Donald Trump allowing Trump to appoint a conservative Supreme Court justice and tip that balance of power Biden's hanging on you know and I don't think many people believe
Starting point is 00:33:50 that he actually would make it through a second term and I don't know what this says Ginsburg held on way too long and tarnished her legacy a bit by hanging on too long. What I also have to say is the Democrats have always been successful putting forth these like young, spry, transformative leaders like JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. Joe Biden is sort of the first time they've done a big about face and put forth, you know, a walking zombie. So it is going to be to their detriment. I felt like in the 2019 primary, they could have reared young talent in the Democratic Party. And they kind of just pushed everyone out of the way to go with old Joe Biden,
Starting point is 00:34:24 who's been around for five decades. And what does that set them up for, Link? I mean, like, if Kamala Harris is president, I really think that could set back Democrats a long time. I mean, I always say Joe Biden is an utter calamity. Kamala Harris is even worse. I mean, Kamala Harris is Joe Biden's real insurance policy right now because no one wants her and she's polling incredibly low as well.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I know also like a lot of black women are really disappointed in Kamala Harris and she's supposed to be, you know, the first woman of color in this high executive office. So, no, that would be a total disaster to have a Kamala Harris presidency because all she does is cackle on cue, crack some jokes, and then go back to the Naval Observatory. And I don't, again, I don't know, to complete the analogy with Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I don't know what that does the Democratic Party long term. All right. I don't know if we have, we have both, my guess, solid connection right now, Vince August and Link Lorne. And that's perfect because I would love to wind up our conversation with this right here. events.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Story from the New York Post. An Amazon tribe receives Starlink from Elon Musk. And this is an Amazon tribe, not totally disconnected from civilization. But now, much more connected. And they are concerned because their young men are already downloading a ton of porn. And within an hour, they had found, I don't know, you porn. And they're off and running. It's a greatest story that there was today.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I mean, are you kidding me? Can you top this story? First off, there's a rule, Will. It's a very simple rule. If it exists, there's porn about it. That's the rule. So if it's out there, I don't care if it's Amazon porn. I don't care if it's Martian porn. If it exists, there's a porn about it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Now, whether or not I've seen it firsthand or not isn't the point here. The point is it's there to Google. And no matter what you Google, there's a rated X, triple X version of whatever you Google. So you know what? It's about time it made its way there. Good for the Amazon. Yeah, I feel like this is what the internet was invented for. I mean, you get what you pay for.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I'm just imagining this tribal living their nice remote life. And now they're watching like Stormy Daniel sex tape, you know. So it's just very interesting this whole situation. But, yeah, I'm not judging them whatsoever. What are they supposed to do? Look, we don't need people on the Amazon being more productive than me because I have porn and they don't, okay? We need everybody to waste about an hour a day and be unproductive, Will, okay? Why is your show start at 12, Will? Tell everybody.
Starting point is 00:37:11 What's your point? There's everything. So I wonder what those Amazon tribesmen are choosing. I don't think they're choosing Stormy Daniels. So with the world of options at their fingertips, what type of porn exactly is, proliferating in the Amazon. Don't answer that. Don't answer that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I'm definitely also the wrong person to ask. So ask Vince. Yeah. I feel equally dangerous asking you, Link. So we'll leave that to the imagination for everyone. And we will pray for the tribes of the Amazon. All right, Vince August. Again, check out Vince.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's on X and YouTube. August 21, and Link Lauren, not RFK, but now Gen Z influencer, former campaign advisor to RFK, and you can find him on X at its Link Lauren. Vince, I wish you the worst of luck in the coming week. Boston Celtics, you bet, thanks guys. Boston Celtics up to O'O on my Dallas Mavericks, and it threatens if we don't deal with this, you know, like when I was a kid, Did anybody, did you get warts? What's kind of weird?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like, I don't get warts now. But when you're a kid, did you go through a phase? What grade was that? Like, sixth grade, I'd get a wart, and you picked that wart. You know, it'd bleed forever. But, like, because you got, you got to pick the ward off, you know. We got a wart in the Will Cain show. Let's pick it off next.
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Starting point is 00:39:03 laundry, let's clear the air. Let's deal with this wart on the Will Cain show. It is the Will Cain show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. And always on demand. Apple, Spotify, hit subscribe. Hit subscribe if you're hanging out with this on YouTube and you can jump into the comments.
Starting point is 00:39:18 We'll bring you out on air, on YouTube or Facebook. We want to see you back here every day on the Wilcane show, 12 Eastern live or afterwards. It doesn't matter whether or not you comment live or afterwards, we'll do our best to bring you into and a part of the Wilcane show. Maybe you can replace the fly in the ointment, the wart that has turned out to be Establishment James. Two days, Dan, tinfoil, Pat, young establishment James, who is a,
Starting point is 00:39:48 Boston Celtics fan. I don't want to hear from you, James. I want you to sit in silence for a bit. Your team is up 2-0 on my Dallas Mavericks in the NBA finals. Ten foil and two-o-days. I feel like there is...
Starting point is 00:40:06 I don't even want to call them unwritten rules. There is a feeling in trash talk that one has to be able to sense. And if you don't feel it, you're going to have problems and maybe I'm sensitive. Very, very possible because I am salty. I am salty. I don't, I'm not tweeting. I don't know if you guys have noticed. I'm down to like one tweet
Starting point is 00:40:30 a game. I did notice, yeah. I'm not saying, I'm not saying things on the text chain because my maps are getting just curb stomped right now. And here's James. Five minutes into game one of a seven-game series. Outmatched. They're flustered. This is over. He's talking like it's a sweep. Five minutes in to game one. Tell me tinfoil in two a days.
Starting point is 00:40:58 He's not reading the room. I legit was like, wow, like to myself just flabbergasted at the audacity of the texting that early in the game is wild. Wild.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Did I brush him off the plate when I said you are the dumbest sportsman. I legit, I was with some buddies, I legit, like, showed it to my friends. I was like, yeah. What did your friends say? Were they on my side or his side? Oh, no, you can't trash talk that early on your side, for sure. Tim Foil, did you know I was mad?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Did you know I was like back off when I said you are the dumbest sports fan? No, I thought I was a little gutsy. I don't think I would have done that. I like to play a little safer, closer to the vest. But, you know, I didn't really, I think of it more like payback for all the good sports that you've had the last year at my detriment. So I was okay with it. I've had it. I've had it so good.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I didn't even know it came at your detriment. I mean, I guess the Longhorns in the playoffs over the Seminoles. But I've had the Longhorns in the college football playoff. I've had the Texas Rangers World Series. I had the stars in the Western Conference Finals. I have got the Mavericks in the NBA. I got it good. So my tolerance for what's happening here on the Will Cain show is low two days.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, it's about to get worse right now. We actually have a caller on the line that wants to have a word with you. Caller, are you there? Can you hear us? Sweet. Yes. My name's Tyrus, first-time caller. I, the minute I heard you have a caller, I was like, God, man, I know what this is going to be.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It's Tyrus. Hey, hey, kids. I'm sorry, Will. I'm normally, I'm a little more prepared. I took a couple days off with and took my kids to Orlando. We're having some fun. I didn't get a chance to catch the games. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:43:04 I feel dizzy right now. I feel legit dizzy. I'm just, I mean, oh, what's how? Kevin, sweetheart? Who's up, 2-0? Oh, picks are up? So, that means daddy's winning? And what does that make, Will? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? And my daughter is very, also because I'm a family man, I'm a family man. My daughter's picking out your shirt.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Right. Rie, would you please tell him what you picked out for him? We got it made and everything. So we are locked and loaded. Hey, you guys, I told you. There's going to be a problem. And apparently, Luke is only in shape for three quarters. Oh, man. You have co-opted, Tyrus?
Starting point is 00:44:03 You have co-opted your daughters into this? I'm a family man, and I would thought you would have respected that. We win as a family moment. loses a family. We're not Mavericks. We're Celtics. Tyrus. How old are your daughters? Back to work.
Starting point is 00:44:23 12 and 10. The 10-year-old couldn't be here, and you're lucky because that's the one that cusses. All right, Tyrus. I see how it is. All right. Now we're going home to Dallas. My kids will be involved. Now my kids are in. That's the family.
Starting point is 00:44:39 This was... Let's bring them all in. And even bring them all in. nice young man I met, the soccer phenom that you took out of your time when I got a chance to meet in New York. I'm sorry, his name escapes me. But yeah, bring them all in. Bring them all in. Just the only thing I say is leave the wife's out because they'll ruin it for all of us. No wife. I agree. I agree. Leave the women out of the sports trash talk. Bring in the kids. All right, Tyrus, you get your shot. You're up to O. You're up to O. Enjoy Disney World.
Starting point is 00:45:07 I assume that's where you are in Orlando. Yeah, I'll call you Thursday. All right. Thursday it is. Tyrus here on the Will Cain show talking trash with his family. Nice job, guys. Okay, yeah. So, yeah, everyone's really reading the room. I see it.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I see it. That was not my call. I didn't want to do this because I don't want to jump in on this thing. Also, I'm being kind of a butt kisser by rooting for the Mavs, as James pointed out in our group text also. I'm going to let you talk in a second. No, nope, nope, nope. In a minute. In a minute, because I have a question for you, okay?
Starting point is 00:45:42 a question for you. I don't want to hear your trash talk. Tyrus just got it. Okay. Okay. I have two questions for you. Pull your mic back, Young Establishment, James, and keep it quippy. Are you at all nervous about going back to Dallas? They say a series doesn't start until the road team wins, and I will grant you. We seem to have no answers for the Celtics. But maybe Kyrie starts playing like Kyrie, and maybe the role players play great at home. And game two was actually kind of close. Are you all worried going to Dallas? That's question one. We'll see how they come out in game three, because I think the reason that I trash talked so quickly five minutes in was just because I have a very good eye for basketball and can
Starting point is 00:46:25 just see the court. Okay, okay. All right. We'll see what happens. That leads me to question two. That leads me to question two. I actually watched the game. No highlights. Is it, you have a really good eye for basketball. Would that be a James that has a good eye for basketball? Would that be young establishment, James, that has a good eye for basketball? Or would that be the West Village guy that has a good eye for basketball?
Starting point is 00:46:55 Because we've found your burner, buddy, on X. And it's up on the screen right now. This is what you're doing under West Village guy. Take that down. Take that down. No. That's my roommate. We're going to show. That's my roommate.
Starting point is 00:47:07 We're picking this ward. That's my roommate. Uh-huh. It's your roommate. Stephen A. Smith has tweeted, put it up again, two a days. Stephen A. Smith tweets, send me questions to answer on the Stephen A. Smith show today. Make them good.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And West Village Guy says, on a scale of 1 to 10, how handsome is Will Kane? He was so worried about what was happening and what we were going to do for this segment. And now he knows. I'm going to have to scroll through and make sure. Yikes. You better. You better start deleting. right now because put up another one here
Starting point is 00:47:43 two days. We got another one from West Village Guy right now who seems to be a big Doug Bergam fan. The profile is Doug Bergam on West Village Guy. And I tweeted, Kyrie has to show up or this is over. It may be over anyway. And West Village
Starting point is 00:47:59 Guy says, Dallas kept the wrong European. West Village Guy. So is West Village Guy your good eye for basketball? West Village Guy. He's verified. too, which is the best part. He paid for it. Yeah, paid for it.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I don't know. This guy seems pretty smart, but... He has good points. He has good points. Patrick, tinfoil, start screenshoting immediately before he deletes this stuff. I want all of West Village guys. I mean it. Like, right now, I want to see your eyes on the screen,
Starting point is 00:48:35 tinfoil. I want you screen... He's deleting. I can see. He has the phone in his hand. I just hope management's not watching. Village Guy's greatest hits. So James, you've got to interact with the show. You can't be looking at your phone. Who is the basketball mind? Is it you or West Village guy?
Starting point is 00:48:57 I would defer to the guy that hangs out in downtown Manhattan watching all the games. I don't know. That's you? No, that's not me. Are you West Village guy? No, can't confirm. or deny. We definitely can't confirm. That's a hard take the fifth moment right there.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I'd like to remain employed. He's like KD with all the burner. Well, you just kind of ruined the burner because now you've got to create a new one because it's you can't be open and honest if you work for a large corporation. Yeah, we get to see the real you. Yeah, well, you get to see the real you now. He's funny. West Village guy's funny if you don't say so yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:41 He's got a couple bangers. I can see. He hangs out in the West Village. He's a big Doug Bergam fan. He likes the Boston Celtics. Is West Village a guy a guy you want to go have a beer with is the question? Is that the type of guy? Right now he sounds a lot like Young Establishment James on my text feed, and the answer to that is I never want to.
Starting point is 00:50:07 By the way, James, this isn't just as you as my antagonist. used to you as my, you know, colleague and on the same side of things when it comes to the Texas Longhorns, I meant it. You're a dumb sports fan. You tempt fate. When in Longhorns games, you will be like, we got this way too early. And I'm like, have you been a Longhorn fan for a year? You never, ever proclaim victory until the clock hits zero. You are calling games out there left and right way too early dumb but they're never wrong until
Starting point is 00:50:44 they are though that's the point and I will never be happier if the mass he's got a horrible resume I mean his resume is Patriots I'll say we'll see what happens in game three if they come out in game three and it's strong there's a series but it's
Starting point is 00:51:04 it comes down to that I don't let you you can't equivocate no you you call I answered that originally. No, if the Maver's come back, I'm halfway, I'd say a third of me wants this for Luca and a third of me wants this for the Maverick's legacy. I was, another 15% wants this just for my own selfish joy. But the remaining 15 is I want to rub your face in it so bad. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like after that text. How good would that feel? Oh, I want slit their throat, rub their face in the mud sports victory at this point. I don't want joyous. I want King Leonidas. That's what I want. This is Sparta. Our favorite president always said all publicity is good publicity.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Is that what you're doing? You are West Village guy. All right. That's going to, that's going to, there. The laundry is aired. has been picked. Am I right about that? Did you guys have warts like, did you ever have a phase of warts like in middle school? Fourth, fifth grade? Yeah, when I was about seven. Yeah, what happens?
Starting point is 00:52:17 It's your, when, yeah, why is it that age? And then you don't get them when you're an adult. I could be wrong. You know, I mean, maybe it's like a right before you start growing up. I think it's your like immune system figuring itself out when you're younger. I think. Did you, and you picked the wart, right? Yeah. I had it, did you have it like, I had it like frozen off one of them on my foot? I had them frozen. which works sometimes doesn't work other times and then you know you've got to get deep
Starting point is 00:52:44 so you pick it and then you bleed forever yeah I think I just got some new followers around fifth grade fifth grade in warts oh you're creating a wart colony over there at West Village guy all right sweet
Starting point is 00:53:01 we've aired our dirty laundry here on the Wilcane show so now the room is clear and I can move along in a more happy state of course until Wednesday and Friday, where I will be at game four of Mavs Seltz. Until then, and until tomorrow, I'll see you again next time. And Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free, on the Amazon music app. Fox News Audio presents Unsolved with James Patterson.
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