Will Cain Country - Can California Be Redeemed? Plus, More Biden Revelations Emerge From Cover-up (ft. Steve Hilton)

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Story #1: The Left tries to play their 'Get Out Of Jail Free' cards as more revelations come out about the cover-up of former President Joe Biden's medical conditions, including the Biden camp's belief that President Donald Trump was going to end up in jail after a massive lawfare campaign against him. Story #2: Can California be redeemed after years of reckless policies that have people fleeing the state? Plus, breaking down the South African refugee crisis as the President of South Africa is set to meet President Trump with Republican candidate for Governor of California and Author of ‘Califailure: Reversing The Ruin Of America’s Worst-Run State,’ Steve Hilton. Story #3: What are your Top 5 Sports Movies of All-Time? Will shares his Top 5, and you'll be shocked which Kevin Costner movie is on his list.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, get out of jail free card. Everyone's now seeming to think they can somehow kill, assassinate their own reputation, and then come back and go, wasn't me. Can Jake Tapper, can CNN, can The View, can Whoopi Goldberg get a get out of jail free card? Two, can California be redeemed with the recent candidate for governor of California, Steve Hilton? Three, well, I don't know, we're going to have to ask two days. I can't remember what we're doing in story number three. The Will Cane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page.

Every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time, please remember to subscribe on Apple or on Spotify. And if you feel so deserved, and we probably don't deserve it shooting out of the gates today. Leave us a five-star review. Two days, what are we doing in story number three? We're doing our top five sports movies, something like that. Top five sports movies. It's been a big topic around the office here to the... I am going to get dizzy looking at 10th wheel pads fan spinning around the ceiling.

I mean, good Lord, man. It's, you know, they do that thing in TV, like, don't wear striped shirts. It gives you, what do you call that, morays, the lines move. Yeah. So, that's the least of 10 foil Pat's concerns. I have to stand up for the gravity. He's playing injured today. here on the Will Cain show.

I feel so bad. Yesterday, Monday, tinfoil pat checked himself into the ER with kidney stones. Brue. According to most day to the second most painful thing in life, second only to childbirth. How are we doing?

I'll say the first. yeah well you have direct experience yeah yeah you've had a kid you can compare the two that's tough bud how you feeling i'm here you're standing yeah last night have you passed the stone have you passed the stone no okay it's somewhere rattling around inside your kidney or urinary tract this yeah it's working its way down Yeah. So terrible. But why is it every dude?

You know, when somebody has a health malady, we're like, oh, man, I'm sorry. And then when you find out it's kidney stones, you're like, ah, but then it's also funny. It's like your buddy when he's skateboarding down a big hill and he gets the speed wobbles. And he crashes and he gets strawberries and road rash all over his body. You're like, oh, I know that stinks, but you can't help but laugh. Yeah. Why is it we laugh at our friend's kidney stones? Because it's not, you know, it's going to pass.

It'll, you know, he'll get through it, but it's also just like one of those things that you just have to if to get through those. I can't even think about it. I mean, I hope I never have it. I've had buddies have them before. And I hear horror stories, Patrick. Is this the worst thing you've ever been through physically? I've been through a lot, so. But yeah, I think it's up there.

Was Vietnam? What are you talking about? I'm arthritis. If anyone is just now, universal. Joining us, tinfoil, Pat, works, 13-hour days. He's suffered from arthritis. He once fought in Vietnam. Works through dinner.

And now, you know, he's being afflicted with kidney stones, which is real. And that's a deal. That's a deal. Last question for you on this before we move forward. What will you do with the stone once it passes? Will you keep it? Will you fish it? Will you fish it out?

Will you jar it? Well, I'm having to go in like a container so keep it. So they like want to be able to test it or something. My wife says I can't keep it though. Put it in a jar like off camera so we could always have it right there. I told her like you got to keep all the kids you had. So I don't see why this is a bit different. Have you named your stone?

Not yet. I have to see how many we have. I don't think you can say that on air what you're going to name it. so do you have more than one i think it's just one i'm not sure yet okay you're not having twins um there was another question i had about oh do you do they know why are you not drinking enough water are you super stressed like what are the causes of kidney stones isn't it like dehydration and stress and things like that working too many hours that's probably it it's hard work

do you drink water yeah I'd say so that's drink enough I mean you can also be hard water my mom my mom's had like kidney stones like four times and part of it's like we just have hard water here in Florida so

it could be a part of it just calcium build up all right well you're going to keep a surprise day by day on where it is now in his tract where it is in his system we want to get a daily kidney stone update we would i would actually like it if you wouldn't mind would you video when you pass it would you would you uh go ahead you can keep

it zoomed in on your face i just want to see or at least here you know kidney still watch 2025 i'll take pictures for you i want to hear the dime for size i want to like know how bad it hurts So I need to hear how bad it hurts. Yeah, I need to hear it. I'll do my best. It's all projection, which I hope remains projection for me, theory, abstractions. I don't ever want to deal with this. But I am curious.

Good luck, buddy. It talks about how bad it is. So, yeah, we wish you the best of luck. Please videotape your pain. All right, let's get to it with story number one. Day by day, the new cycle is now driven by a revelation that we've all already known. It's as though we were reporting that the sun. rises in the east with breathless revelation, and yet now we get the biggest skeptics on

earth to admit that it actually does rise in the east. Day by day, we get new information about the cover-up of Joe Biden's frailty, now which encompasses not just his mental acuity, but also his what appears to be really late stage, perhaps terminal cancer diagnosis. And yet, as we mentioned, every day there's new reporting and new online. eyes opened. Here is Whoopi Goldberg on the view. There has always been a mass trust issue because

politicians, media, nobody does what they're supposed to do. Now, I say, for me, listen, he's 83. So he's a little stumbling, he's a little rumbly. I can't point to anything that he's done

as president, that he did. No, but he's running for his neck for years. But, but, but, I I'm saying, I want, not you, but I want somebody to tell me, well, when did you know it was bad? If you knew, why did you wait? Yeah, well, we should have known that exactly at the time, but we did. That's the other thing. We did know.

Everyone with any credibility, and by the way, it should be stark now who deserves your credibility. You know, when you tune in to somebody like me, you know, you're going to say, oh, Will has his opinions, or perhaps he's not completely objective. Well, my form of objectivity is honesty. That's how I see things. I'm going to be honest with you about my opinions. I'm going to be honest with you about my biases. And you're going to be able to account for those. And I'm going to subject my opinions to rebuttal in different points of view.

But what has totally been burned is the idea of credibility for those who tell us, they only tell us the truth and that they are objective. There's nothing left. That house is burned down. You don't build it back up. It doesn't need a new roof. It's down to the foundation. for people like CNN's Jake Tapper,

who now with this reporting is basically asking for, as much of the media is, a get-out-of-jail-free card for what they did for four years because they've now written a book with revelations about the cover-up of Joe Biden's decline. Tapper was on NPR, and he was asked about why Biden thought, he might be able to win in his current status and condition.

How could he win the race for presidency in 2024? And this was a fascinating. This, I think, is actually a fascinating revelation. Do you think this decision is made if Donald Trump isn't the opponent looming? Do you think there was a convincing of he has to beat Donald Trump, and therefore we have to position him this way? You know, they will say that the threat of Donald Trump made it so he, he didn't really have a choice.

And that being said, you know, just given what we've seen of their actions and how they acted after debate, I think he would have run anyway. I mean, I think, you know, he spent most of 2023, him and Donnell and President Biden and Mike Donnellon spent most of 23, convinced that Donald Trump was going to jail, convinced of it. Convinced Donald Trump was going to jail, which again, by the way, was something we talked about, the attempt to win an election through lawfare. and that's another one of the list of things

that people have dismissed as conspiracy and you can say oh that's not an admission of the usage of law affair to take out a political opponent but it was Joe Biden's DOJ pressing forward and special prosecutors on many of these issues and he was convinced of what would be the outcome until the Supreme Court announces on most of these cases

that they're either meritless or the president of the United States has immunity that that Joe Biden thought he could walk into the presidency because Donald Trump could be taken out through extra democratic means, anti-democratic means. It's just another nail in the coffin of the talking point that you were subjected to. This talking point is dismissive. It's like mind manipulation propaganda that Donald Trump represents a threat to democracy. There are people

still walking the streets today who believe that, who willingly buy into the authoritarian line. and still run with it today, all based upon this political maneuver to suggest someone is a threat to democracy, all the while representing themselves as anti-democratic in the Democratic primary and their willingness to win based upon lawfare, their commitment to stay in the race, based upon anti-democratic processes, the replacement of Joe Biden with Kamala Harris, which was anti-democratic against the will of the people. they, to the extent that it was an honest primary, chose Joe Biden to run.

And we put this up yesterday on the Will Kane show at 4 p.m. on the Fox News Channel. Donald Trump has almost taken a sympathetic tone towards Joe Biden and said, I blame the people around him. And it's true. Like, we ran a list of everybody. Those people could not have been ignorant of everything going on with Joe Biden,

And they covered it up. And that list includes his doctors, his wife, his children. Speaking of children, this is what Jake Tapper now has to say about another thing that was waived away, Hunter Biden, and how much influence he had and his corruption that was covered on places like Fox and dismissed on places like CNN. But now here today is Jake Tapper. How big a factor was the Hunter stuff? I think it was considerable. I think Hunter was driving the decision making for the family in a way that people, he was almost like a chief of staff of the family. Does that strike you as pretty bizarre?

It's bizarre because I think he is provably, demonstrably, unethical. Oh, gosh, he goes on from that cut two days. He says, unethical, corrupt of low character. Katie Couric who's doing the interview goes, wow, tell us what you really feel. but he said all kinds of really condemning things about Hunter Biden and then talks about the influence that Hunter Biden had in that administration. I mean, he talks about that he was one of the most,

he might have been the leader of the family, according to Jake Tapper. And then we get to the cancer diagnosis, which I think is one of the biggest scandals in, I don't know, half a century. I mean, to cover up. we talked about this yesterday, there have been presidents that cover up their health maladies.

JFK had the, what is it called, the, what is it, sorts of the A, not Addison's disease. It was, it was a life-threatening, life-cripling disease that he hid from the public. He also wore a back brace. He had a horrible back issue. FDR covered up his heart troubles. The last couple of years of Ronald Reagan's presidency, Addison's disease for, for JFK. Ronald Reagan's last couple years of presidency,

but the difference is Joe Biden was seeking re-election, hiding that from the public, everything he was doing, including what appears to be now a cancer diagnosis, prostate cancer that doesn't metastasize in the stage four bone cancer in 100 days. That's something that has been talked about. For example, you guys familiar Scott Adams,

creator of the Dilbert cartoon, and a thinker on the right, who just in the last week announced he too has prostate cancer. Watch. Some of you have already guessed. So this won't surprise you at all. But I have the same cancer that Joe Biden has. So I also have prostate cancer that has also spread to my bones.

But I've had it longer than he's at it. Well, longer than he's admitted having it. So my life expectancy is maybe the summer. I'd expect to be checking out from this. domain sometime in the summer you know can we take this moment um tinfoil pat i know you're a big fan of scott adams and let's just acknowledge scott adams is played a it's you know cartoon creator but in the latter stage of his career a real thinker a content creator um a prolific user of x in that video as well as on rumble and many people are taking some time now with

this news, talk about what integral role he played in not just Donald Trump, but guys like Scott Adams, in repositioning the thought and policies of much of the right. And I know you're a big fan tin foil. What would you say about Scott Adams? I mean, you know, I have many Scott Adams books. This has Reframed Your Brain. A lot of the way I think comes from the way, you know, he's presented himself and um you know a cure the dawn had a had a whole album with just his one of his uh talks on on x and he's real he was really crucial in helping get don't trump elected in 2016 and changing the entire way we think of politics nowadays because he understood how how trump was thinking and he understood how trump presented himself

because he's a master he's a he's a master hypnotist so he understands a lot of how these persuasion techniques work and things like that so he's uh he's contrarian he's a deep thinker he's not always right and he's admitted to some things he was wrong about but it was always a worthy thing to listen to scott adams somebody that over the last decade has covered himself in earned credibility while we've watched the the the torch, you know, the blow torch taken to the credibility of most of mainstream media that today wants to act like investigative sleuths towards something that you knew, that we all knew. And while we'll get nuggets out of this and we'll get anecdotes and, but we're getting it from

the same people that basically assassinated their own reputations, assassinated their own credibility. And you don't get to come back. You know, none of us are protected from being wrong. Scott Adams was wrong at times. I'm wrong at times. different than running cover for political purposes and purposely telling a lie. And that's what we're going to have to remember today as these people tried to get that get out of jail free card. All right, can California be redeemed? Steve Hilton is running for governor of California. And he joins us next on the Will Kane Show.

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It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. Steve Hilton is the author of Calafalier reversing the ruin of America's worst run state, but he isn't just writing about it. Now he's running as well for Governor of California. Hey, Steve. So great to be with you. How are you doing?

I'm good. I know you were sitting in the on-deck circle listening as we talked about this scandal over Joe Biden. And I know you have thoughts. So first of all, there's one. specific thing, the specific detail of this story that for me captured how outrageous of a scandal this is. And actually, it's not in Jake Tapper's book. This week we knew about before came out last year. And remember, I've worked inside of a government. I was senior advisor to the Prime Minister of the UK, David Cameron. I've seen what it's like right at the top

of an administration. It was reported last year that Joe Biden, as president, more than on one occasion, his meetings, internal one-to-one meetings with senior officials in his government, including the defense secretary, were scripted. He had scripted meetings, not like a press conference or a public event. This is just internal conversations. That is unimaginable to me. That is so outrageous. We clearly had a puppet president. there's no other way of putting it. And this whole, oh, he had good days and bad days. When you're the president, you can't have bad days.

You can't go in and out of lucidity and capability. It is totally outrageous. This is a massive scandal. We had a puppet president. We need to know who was pulling this. Who was writing those scripts, right? Who was actually directing the business of government? It's just unbelievable.

And of course, you're right to say that we all knew, and we're all saying it for years before. I mean, I remember before the 2020 election, right? He was, on my Sunday night show, we would have, it was so frequent his, you know, obvious decline that we turned it into a weekly segment. And there's always, and there was always material. I, we called it the Joe Biden comedy segment. I mean, look, it's not funny, but like every week there was something.

So it's just outrageous. And, and I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the right next step is. Because it seems to me there has to be some kind of accountability for this. It's not just a story. It's not just something we should get angry about. This can't happen again. The power of story, Steve, is to make and create and help public awareness.

And so the purpose of story is that we don't make these mistakes again as a people. So that viewers, listeners, voters are more skeptical to people who have, burned their own credibility, so that when they come out there in mass, both elected officials and people in the media, and tell you this is the best Joe Biden ever, that the president is sharp as attack, that you look at those people and what they ask of you in the future with mass amount of skepticism. But you're right, there has to be more than simply asking the consumer to be more skeptical as a purchaser. I'm using an analogy there as somebody who walks into a store. Because if I go into a store, Steve, and I am defrauded, I'm defrauded on a

sale, I do take some personal responsibility and think the next time I'm in a store, I'm going to be more critical of the pitch. But that doesn't preclude the salesman from being prosecuted as a fraudster. And everybody wants to see accountability, Steve, like you point out. And there are multiple levels we're asking for accountability. And there are multiple levels. We're asking for accountability on Afghanistan. We're asking for accountability from the former DOJ. And now we're asking for accountability from the shadowy people who are running from the United States government. But my hardest thing is Steve, and you kind of alluded to this, I don't know how we're going to accomplish accountability. Yeah, I don't know because I mean, you know, it's easy to

say, prosecute, do this, do that, have an investigation. Okay. But there has to be an actual crime, right? We believe in the rule of law and the constitution. So, I mean, what is that? I don't know. That's not my field, but I think that we have to push this to the limit of what is legal and constitutional in terms of demanding accountability, not just let it drop. And actually, all of this reminds me of a broader point, which is there was, and, you know, Megan Kelly made this point brilliantly in her conversation with Jake Tapp. I haven't, I didn't hear the one you just had. I mean, that's even more offensive when you hear Jake Tapper now saying, oh, yeah, we all knew hunter was corrupt. Well, excuse me, when we were saying that, it was called a vicious personal

attack on someone who's lost his son. Do you know what I mean? It's just so offensive to me that they're now saying what we were saying all along. And actually, it's not just this issue. On so many issues, we literally at Fox were almost the only people telling the truth on issue after issue, on the border crisis, on the crime wave going on in our cities, on COVID, both parts of COVID, the destruction and cruelty of the lockdowns and the origin of the virus. I was the first on television to lay out the evidence that it was Fauci's research that led to the pandemic. I was accused of conspiracy theory and all the rest of it. Now everyone agrees. Now everyone agrees we shouldn't have locked down the schools. But when we said that at the time,

they said we were putting people's lives at risk. We were the only people who told the truth on so many issues for so long. Totally correct. And what? One of those issues, by the way, and one of those people who need to at least be held publicly accountable in the minds of the voter, of the consumer, is the state of California and the governor of California, Gavin Newsom. Now, he is not running for, he is term limited in California, mercifully. But that doesn't mean California is going to make a wiser choice. They haven't made many wise choices over their recent history. You are running to try to give them a choice of wisdom. You are running for governor of California.

And the question is, can California be redeemed? Yeah, it's the question. My answer is, yes, it's not going to be easy, but it's not impossible. And because it's not impossible, we have to go for it. Because we can't just put up with, you know, our biggest, for me, the most beautiful and magnificent state in our great nation, just slipping further into decline and stagnation, which is what's happening right now. I mean, if you just, I mean, we talked about this before. when I discussed my book, Califalia, but on every single measure, pretty much that matters

to people, California is the worst performing state in America. We have the highest poverty rate, highest taxes, highest cost for rent, housing, electricity, water, you name it, the lowest income growth, the highest unemployment, most of last. It's a real disaster. And you have Gavin Newsom bragging about how we're the fourth biggest economy. And that's true. Statistically, I mean, you can quibble over whether we're now the fourth biggest economy because Japan went down rather than California going up, but whatever. It's a fact. I'm proud of that. I want California to have a big economy to be successful, but it's not enough to be big. It has to be good. It has to work for the people who live here. And California's economy is a disaster for the people who live here. A recent

survey showed that 35% of Californians cannot afford to meet their basic needs. Businesses are leaving, people are leaving. We can't, you know, it's the heartbeat of our economy in many ways, and it's just being really badly crushed. So the question is, can we turn it around? For me, the ingredients are there, right? You saw it last night. You saw 10 counties in California flipped from blue to red. Trump got more votes in California than any presidential candidate in a generation. You've got the DAs kicked out and the mayor's kicked out in the Bay Area in Los Angeles. You look at the way that the Latino vote, which is now the big, the biggest group in California, that's shifting statewide, sorry, nationwide towards Republicans,

the working class vote shifting to Republicans. The ingredients are there. But for the longest time, it seems to me, Republicans in California haven't put up a really strong fight, haven't really said, you know what you can do this. It doesn't have to be like this. We can be better than this. Here's our positive, practical, common sense plan to turn things around. And that's the point of my campaign when the theme of it is old and again, because It's the golden state. We all know what that means, the California dream. It's like an amazing thing.

In many ways, it captures the essence of the American dream. And that's what we need to get back to. Honestly, I've been on the road now, was it, three, four weeks? There's massive energy out there. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's going to be possible, and I'm determined to do it. To your point on the California economy, the fourth largest economy in the world, I consider that for Gavin Newsom a natural resource, not unlike the Pacific Ocean or the Sierra Nevada's. You inherited these beautiful natural resources.

What have you done? What you've done is take those things that you've inherited and literally, literally driven people out of your state. Listen, Steve, I'm a born and raised Texan. And if you're listening right now and you are a born and raised Montana or Arizona, you know that your state is full of refugees from the state of California. And people welcome Californians that come with the right mindset and are coming for the right reasons to places like Montana. or Texas. But when I was growing up, Steve, although I'm born and raised Texan, I wanted to go to college in California. And I did. I applied to USC. I went to Pepperdine. Ultimately, I went to Pepperdine. And of my age, and I think this is an interesting conversation, Donald Trump won the

presidency, not just on policy, but will never underestimate the power of policy, but he also won it because he tapped into the culture. He shifted the culture, but he also saw a pent-up demand in the culture. What I'm getting at here with you, Steve, is culture. When I was growing up, growing up, California was cool, man. Like, everybody wanted to go to California. It was a place where things were happening and you could happen. And whatever that means, it's not just mean waiting tables until you become a movie star. It was, yes, music and movies, but it was tech.

And it was everything. It felt like the coolest place that you could go. And I'm telling you, Steve, it doesn't feel like that anymore. It now feels, it now feels, honestly, kind of feels like it's Texas. I see all these California kids, you know, I wanted to go to USC or Pepperdine. Now these California kids want to go to TCU or Baylor. And there's got to be, I love the Golden Age, there's got to be a reinvigoration of what it meant at one time

in a positive light to be Californian. This is 100, but you absolutely nailed it. That is the whole point of what I'm saying. That's what I wanted to call my campaign. It's called Golden Again, right? And I talk about this the whole time. I mean, I moved here with my family in 2012. So this is my new home.

I feel at home here in a way I never did in England. My parents are Hungarian. They were refugees from communism. So I know what it's like to go in search of freedom. And I feel like I'm to the place that should be the absolute heartbeat of that. And the essence of all the good things we think of as the American spirit. And when I talk about this, you know, like California, should be the means to America, what America means to the world, right?

Innovation and energy and optimism and ambition, all those cool things. But there's one other phrase I always use, which is the rebel spirit, right? There's something about just California like the rebels and the pioneers, they cross the Sierras to get here through incredible difficulty and built this amazing place. And that's been crushed with this ridiculous, bloated, nanny state bureaucracy from the government here that's telling you how to live and what to do and what car to drive and what kind of you can't own a single family home because you all have to live in apartments like it's North Korea and you can't cook your food the way you want because you can't have a gas stove and all this like

BS endlessly telling people what to do that is not California it's not cool and so restoring that spirit I think is what this is all about but from a policy perspective that means cutting back, like massively, this ridiculous, bloated bureaucratic government, because that's what's really crushing everything. I talk, when I'm on the road and I talk to families and business owners, small business, whatever, any time you ask people, where's the pain coming from that's making it so difficult to do anything here, to live here, to raise a family, to run a business? It's all these agencies and bureaucracies churning out this nonsense all day long. And the good news about that is that the governor runs that. You run the executive branch.

So you can really get to work, chopping that back and restoring California to its glory. Well, here's hoping you can recapture the golden age, golden California, California. Cool. More of the Will Cain Show, right after this. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me, Kennedy. Make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. It is time to take the quiz.

It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz. Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Welcome back to the Will Kane show. All right, you brought up refugees for a moment.

I thought of you when I thought of this story, to mention your parents who were refugees from communism, refugees from Hungary. We talked about Californian refugees. Donald Trump has welcomed in. at this point, something like 59 refugees from South Africa. Now, this led to some very interesting exchanges on Capitol Hill yesterday between Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Senator Tim Kane,

who seemed to press Rubio on the administrations in his mind, racist openness to bringing in white refugees from South Africa. I've had it pretty fascinating. Rubio said, you're the one bringing up race. And to my knowledge, Steve, America has welcomed in refugees from all over the world. They welcome them in from Latin America, from Afghanistan, from Somalia. But it isn't until they welcome in from South Africa that the eyebrows are raised from Democrats. I know. It's amazing, isn't it?

Like, we're open to everything as long as it's not white people. White people are bad. It's just we've got enough white people in America. We don't need any more. It's just so ridiculous. It's very serious what's been going on there. And actually, I have a direct personal experience of it, not in South Africa. but very close by in Zimbabwe, used to be Rhodesia.

And I had an ex-girlfriend many, many years ago in England. And she was, her family were farmers in, you know, back in the days when it was Rhodesia and then Zimbabwe. And then they experienced the exact same brutal assault from people in Zimbabwe in that case. But it's exactly the same thing that's been going on with many farmers, particularly farmers in South Africa. It's just, it's really bad. And of course, we should be ready to welcome refugees from that kind of violence. It's the same language that you use when the Democrats have been defending the open borders. Oh, people suffering persecution and violence and whatever.

Yeah, that's exactly what's happening to some of these people. So it's a total double standard, of course, driven by race. Coming up at 4 o'clock today on the Will Kane Show on the Fox News Channel, we'll be speaking to one of these refugees, one of these Afrikaners from South Africa. We can hear directly what's been happening there when it comes to land confiscations and violence in South Africa. I want to also ask you about this while we have you today here, Steve. Tulsi Gabbard told us at the time that she had been put it on this quiet skies, no fly zone, watch government air marshal watch list under the Biden administration. She was on with Laura Ingram last night as Senator Ram Paul has confirmed.

That's exactly what happened. And she told us last night with Laura Ingram when it happened and what she thinks is the reason. she was put on this list. Watch. I think they were trying to intimidate me, but also they were trying to really create this chilling effect, probably knowing that I wouldn't stay silent about it and send a message out to people that if you go and criticize then Vice President Kamala Harris,

who is now going to be the Democratic nominee for president, you too would face the consequences. And I am not the only person, by the way, under this Quiet Sky's domestic terror watch and surveillance program, that was targeted for political reasons. You know, I look back on this, Steve, and I'm like, what did she do? What did she say to be put on a list?

It's absolutely disgusting. Tulsi's a good friend of mine, and the thing that is so clear about Tulsi amongst any wonderful qualities, she's an unbelievable patriot. She loves this country. She joins the military. You know, the idea that she comes down on a threat.

It's so obscene. And this whole thing is obscene. someone who's, you know, my family experienced communism. This is exactly the kind of authoritarianism, totalitarianism that you get in regimes like that, where enemies of the state who step out of line are just, you know, quietly, silently punished. I mean, it's what you get in China with the, whatever they call, the social credit scores. You know, if you say the wrong thing, suddenly you find you can't travel on, you know, if you can't buy a train ticket, this is what happens in regimes like that.

The fact that it was happening in America is so disgraceful. And again, you can't just let it slide. We need to fight. Who made that decision? How did that happen? Who approved it? Was a political person at the top aware of it? You know, we need to get into all of that.

Yes, under the banner of defending democracy. Well, Steve Hilton is outside. Looks like he's at a public event today amidst his run for governor. He's coming to us live via a Starlink, which we appreciate the technology and the time as he makes his run for governor. Steve, great to always talk to you. Thank you. Fantastic. Great to be with you, Will. Thanks. All right, there you go. Steve Hilton, candidate for governor in the state of California. One last note on will we get accountability? It's not only the likes of Steve Hilton or Will Kane asking for this accountability, it is also the likes of Charlemagne

the God. Here he is on the Breakfast Club. I'm interested in the, you know, the Biden stuff, because, you know, Jake Tappler's book, original sin comes out today, which I'm looking forward to reading. And, you know, this book talks about his inner circle and how his inner circle kept his mental decline

and health diagnosis from others. So I think they announced, you know, his president of Biden's prostate diagnosis to get in front of that book. Some of the other stuff that's coming out. And whatever may be in that book. And I'm looking forward to reading it

because I want to see if people like Jake Tapper hold themselves in their networks like CNN accountable for how much they didn't report on. because they're all complicit and not calling a thing a thing in regards to President Biden. That's what we all need. We need accountability. And actually this conversation is part together here, you and me, it is part of that accountability. Top five sports movies.

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Thank you for taking the quiz. top five sports movies of all time it is the will cane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the fox news youtube channel on the fox news facebook page hit subscribe at apple spotify jump into the comments and you are a member of the willisha bringing tinfoil pat and two a day's dan this is dan's idea and it is uh not going to be one when you do top five lists sometimes they're boring because there's too obvious of a consensus i have a feeling that's not going to be the case today. I have a feeling all three of us

might have different movies. I have a feeling you're not going to like mine, including number one. Let's do this. Let's start a little brainstorming session, okay? You don't have to hold back your top five and you don't have to list your top five.

I just want all ideas or good ideas moment here on the show. I want you to stay movies in case I forgot them. So let's just take things out of our pocket. Let's take movies, you know, like I'm just going to reach in my pocket here. and I'm going to pull up Moneyball. I'm going to put Moneyball on the table. Let us never forget.

Brad Pitt and Moneyball. Michael Lewis book. Great movie. Did it make the top five? Let's take other movies and put them on. What do you guys think? I think both of you are big fans of Remember the Titans. Big time.

Remember the Titans is up top five for me. Absolutely. It's a great movie. Yeah. What else? What do we got throw into the pile? So I don't forget. I'm a big fan of the trilogy, The Mighty Ducks.

I mean That's elite Very elite for millennial years So that's three of your top five The Mighty Duck trilogy Gordon Bombay Oscar I got a one that might not be put up there

Because it's a little bit of rom-com But for the love of the game Kevin Costner I think Kevin Costner You know when You know three girls From the same friend group End up in the homecoming court

and then they divide the vote and none of them win and like you know a dark horse steps in you're like oh how'd she win it's because everybody else divided the vote yeah Kevin Costner and baseball movies almost in a way undercut one another but on their own they're all really good yeah bull Durham obviously field of dreams but you're right I do think an underrated one of kevin costner's when it comes to baseball is for love of the game um another one Rudy I mean I'm a Notre Dame fan that's huge for me that is definitely top five Rudy I was going to say, I watched it in the last six months, and it holds up solid. Does it? See, Rudy didn't even make my brainstorming session because it's taken on. Yeah, I know, man.

And I'm not saying I'm right, but in my head, it's taken on so much corniness. Like, I think of Rudy now, and unfortunately, I think of cornyness. And I don't know why. I don't know if that's Sean Aston and, like, the unbelievability of him being a defensive end. But, you know, I just, I don't. don't include it. Here's one. Okay, and there's some categories I'm into. I'm curious if what you guys think of this movie, um, it didn't make my top five, so I'm not burning material here, but the wrestler starring Mickey Roark.

I don't think of that as a sports movie. I mean, it's wrestling. I get it. Really? It's athletic. But yeah, I don't really think of it as sports movie. I think, I think, like baseball, golf, that kind of thing. I mean, you just made an entire world of wrestling fans, including tinfoil Pat, incredibly upset. I know. But it's such a a quality movie. And one of the things that I noticed in when I started to make this list, for those of you, they're going to be upset with me, it's not going to include, for example, Talladega Nights. And I've talked to you about Talladega Nights. And here's the thing about it. It's hilarious. And I've watched it on numerous occasions. But for comedies, for me,

if it gets a little worse every time I watch it, then I forget how much I liked it the first time. And there's two different kinds of comedies. There are those that get better every time I watch it, aka the Big Lobowski, and those that get worse every time I watch it. And that's Talladega Nights. It gets a little more slapsticky, punch-liney, and corny, and so therefore the jokes don't hold up over time.

Go ahead, tinfoil. So does the Big Lobowski count as a sports movie since they're a bowling scene? Oh. Oh. Obviously, you're not a golfer. I had a couple of categories that I thought about. These is a category of movies that is not going to be on my list,

and it is because of my age. And it's going to be all of our ages. But if you look up top sports movies, it is going to be, if you look up a top 150 list at Rotten Tomatoes, littered with movies that were just before our time. Now, if we go back into movies like in the 40s and the 50s, a bunch of big boxing movies that honestly you and I probably haven't even heard of.

I'm talking about pre-Rockey, pre-Raging Bull, right? And those movies, I'm sorry, you're just a little too old for me at this point. Like, I can't indulge. But the 70s had a bunch of football movies that I haven't seen and I'm curious about. And I feel like maybe they're not 100% too dated. So that's movies like, the longest yard, the original, Bert Reynolds, longest yard. Not sailor. North Dallas 40.

Heaven Can Wait with Warren Beatty. And this, you know, football movies don't do well. You're not going to see on my list, you know, any given Sunday. Love that movie. And I don't, I don't dislike it either. I like any given Sunday. It just doesn't reach top five material. But I feel like the 70s went all in on the football movie

And I want to go back and give some of those a shot What about? Didn't you guys seen any of those? Longest Yard? Any North Dallas 40? I have. What about Brian's song is a good one too? See, I never saw Brian's song.

It's fantastic, yeah, yeah. But also, for the record, I have a little bit of an aversion that sports of, to sports movies that are simply vehicles for a bigger story or societal issue. So if your sports movie is about race relations in the U.S., like you're going to have to be really good because that's been done over and over

and Brian's song's about cancer I get it but but you know it kind of turns me off when do I want to watch a sports movie about cancer when I want to watch a sports movie I want to watch a sports movie you know and I think to not saying anything bad about Brian's song

and I think to your point about comedy sports movies they're different because when you think of a sports movie you think of triumph overcoming some obstacle that's what you think of a sports movie so comedy makes it hard when you throw it in there like boxing is a separate thing too because you can put four boxing movies in the top 10 easily

totally agree that's one of my categories I was going to bring up so 1970s sports movies another category is boxing and there are movies on top lists that are boxing movies that I haven't seen I'm like oh I still got to see that one like there's one that's on all the list called

a prayer before dawn and it's about a boxer in a Thai prison and I'm like oh that sounds kind of interesting I kind of want to watch that movie. And here's another category I didn't include. Documentaries. Any list of best sports movies,

it's always littered with documentaries. And there are so many good ones. By the way, talk about wrestling. That's a great category of documentaries beyond the mat. I'll tell you another category within the documentary genre. Extreme sports. Like surfing and skateboarding documentaries are awesome, even if you're not in.

Even if free solo, mountain climbing, Awesome. Dogtown and Z-boys, skateboarding, step into liquid, riding giants, surfing. You don't have to be into those sports to enjoy how good those movies are. So those aren't included as well. And for what it's worth, neither is the damned United. Really good soccer movie. I'd say watch it if you haven't. Also not included, Friday Night Lights.

Shows better. Shows better. partially because it's better as a book every development of Friday Night Lights got further from the truth you know you've got the book then the movie then the show which has no relationship to the actual events are you serious right now about no I'm not serious I'm joking but Kyle Chandler is fantastic he just is a great actor

all right so with no further ado here my my top five sports movies according to the will cane show number five ford versus Ferrari one of the most recent entrance on my list it is rewatchable matt damon and christian bail are cool it's got a healthy and true story arc based upon a real life character characters in carroll shelby who's a fascinating guy in american history the fashion, the cinematography, and the excitement of sports. I absolutely love Ford versus Ferrari. Number four, I've seen this movie 1,142 times,

starting in my college dorm room, Caddyshack. I don't care if you think it's a sports movie or not, but Caddyshack, and it's a bit dated at this point, is absolutely incredible and worth watching more than once. Watch Caddyshack. Number three, I guess my top boxing movie the fighter Christian Bale's second appearance on my top five list

along with Mark Wahlberg I think about that I think it's awesome it's fun it's drama it's funny it's heroic it's overcoming the odds awesome acting by Christian Bale and Amy Adams and Mark Wahlberg love the fighter

number two I don't care if it's cliched I don't care if it's Disney fide and the bottom line is It's true. Miracle. I love the story of the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team, and you could watch a multitude of awesome documentaries about it, but when having been turned into a movie, it's awesome, miracle. And at number one, which may come as no surprise,

I talk about this movie quite a lot, and is without a doubt a sports movie, is Ten Cup. I love everything. about 10 cup i love the lessons which can be encapsulated in this line and this interaction it was the greatest 12 of all time roy no one's going to remember the open 10 years from now and who won but they'll remember your 12 my god roy it was well well it was immortal i love him going for it and into the water over and over until he gets a 12 i just absolutely love It's a love story, though.

There's my top five. I know. And you know what? In most shows, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, it was a movie I was watching the day. When they go into the romantic part, I'm like, this is the bad part of the movie. No one wants to see this stuff.

But it works. It works in Ten Cup because their relationship is so much a part of his golf journey and him making the final day of the U.S. Open. all right that's my top five what do you guys think any big objections any big endorsements um i think it was good the fighter was a was a curveball for me because it's a really dramatic story and wrestling boxing is kind of part of not the main part of it really it's about family it's about interaction it's about drug abuse it's about you know so boxing wasn't the main part but it was really good um someone's asking is point break considered one

I don't think so I think it's a crime heist show That's what I thought you were going to go with actually So did I I think you're going to throw a point break on there But I like your list It's a great list It's a very Will Kane list

To be honest with you Do you guys like Tin Cup? Because there's some people that hate Tin Cup Love it That's a top five for me Absolutely Really good It wouldn't be a top five for me

But I like it's a good movie Yeah I mean Kevin Koster and Dominique Let us know what you think and it's got costner and think about all his baseball movies then you add in 10 cup costner dominates sports movies i think that's fair yeah who we if we were ranking actors in the sports category he would far and away be number one i don't even know who would be number two i'm not i had christian bail twice sandler probably just in terms of a number of

them yeah i'm just joking but like i mean like happy gilmore is a great movie that has staying power but like I watched Waterboy not very good. How much credit how much credit do you give Ray Allen as Jesus Shuttle's worth and he got games? That's a good one. Oh, I forgot about that one. Damn, I would have thrown that up real high. That was Ray Allen. That was Ray Allen before

he was Ray Allen. That's wild. You know? Yeah, I forgot about that. That would be top 10 I think for me. Really? Yeah. He got game as top 10? I mean, I'm from Connecticut. He's Yukon. He's you, you know. Love Ray Allen. Yeah. Yeah. All right, drop into the comment section and let us know what you think. What movies did I miss?

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