Will Cain Country - Can Kanye West Be Forgiven For Antisemitism After Apology? (ft. Guest Host Kennedy & Michael Malice)

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Host of "YOUR WELCOME," Michael Malice joins guest host Kennedy of ‘Kennedy Saves the World’ fame to discuss Kanye West’s official apology to the Jewish community, leaked texts shedding light on interpersonal drama between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively, and the new eating disorders coming to light as a result of increased Ozempic usage across the nation.Plus, Kennedy and the Will Cain Crew react to a bizarre conspiracy circulating on BlueSky that claims the recent winter storm is a distraction from the so called “leviathan” lurking in the depths of the Atlantic Ocean and the return of nationally televised talent show ‘Star Search.’ Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And welcome to Will Kane country. I very clearly am not Will Kane. My name is Kennedy. I'm an F-O-W friend of Will. I work here at Fox News with Will Kane. I host a podcast called Kennedy Saves the World. I was an MTV Vijay in the 1990s and have been known simultaneously and throughout the decades,

not only as America's sweetheart, but as a cultural icon. You can use them interchangeably if you like. You can follow me on social media at Kennedy Nation. You can get angry at me there. You can pass me compliments, platonic love notes. I'll take it all. I'm just happy to take the reins for the day. While Will is on assignment, he will return to this and his other fine broadcast very, very soon.

In the meantime, with all that's in the news, with all that has penetrated and triggered, culture, politics, and society, I don't think I've ever been more happy to make sense of it all with my very favorite anarchist. Michael Malice is here. He is a— Hello. I'm Michael Malice. He is a celebrated author. He is the only person I know who has been to North Korea, and he has documented his journeys. in book form. He has written so many books. You would have eye strain, even if you took them for a

long trip to a deserted island. You would have a difficult time reading all of the words because he is prolific, thoughtful, and one of the most pointedly delightful trolls you could ever find. Michael, welcome to Will Kane country. I'm also an F.O.W. I'm a foe of Will. Yes, you are. And Moynihan went to North Korea. You. know him. He did? Yeah. You haven't been. Oh, that's right. He went on the Dennis Rodman trip, didn't he? I don't think it was a Dennis Rodman trip. I think they were sending the balloons with the USB drives. But he went, he went with Vice. Yes, I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. So Vice, I think had a North Korean outpost there for a while. That's right. Yeah. So we don't want to take any credit

away from Michael Moynihan, who was also appointedly delightful troll. Oh, I want to take credit away from him. He deserves all the hatred he gets. No, I'm joking. He is amazing. He is amazing. He is so thoughtful. He has not written many books, but he should. That's true. So here we stand.

What do you make of Kanye West taking out a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal apologizing to the Jewish community and blacks for some of the comments that he's made over the last few years? He has said

that he is sought treatment. He is into clean living, exercise, therapy, and he blames it all on a car accident that damaged his right frontal lobe, turning him into a manic anti-Semite. What do you make of the explanation and the apology? It seemed kind of sincere to me because I think a big part of his apology was,

I'm not expecting to be forgiven. I have to do the work. And I think for anyone, just broadly speaking, if someone apologizes to you, there's two scenarios. One, they feel guilty, and they're like, okay, I know I'm going to take steps to burn back your trust. And the other is, I'm upset. I'm having consequences. So I'm just going to say what I need to do to get you to move on and leave me alone.

So who knows how this is going to play out? I will say, I don't think mental health is something to be taken lightly and people who struggle with it. It's really a big deal. I'm specifically thinking of when Shiney O'Connor was towards the end of her life, there was this video she was hold up in some hotel in new jersey or in washington dc and she was ranting about how her family doesn't talk to her and she was saying like i'm five feet tall you know what could you be so worried about and it's like if you have some of your family's mentally ill when that darkness takes over them and they say things that are just horrific and intended

to hurt you you can't unhear that you know if you have a family ever like slaps you in the face that's obviously abuse and awful but i'd rather deal with that than when someone's in the throes of mental illness on the attack, for those people who've experienced it, it's traumatic. So I wish him nothing but the best. He's obviously extremely talented. He might be the best marketer on Earth. And you know he had a screw loose because Hitler wasn't exactly a fan of black people.

So, you know, even if you are a big anti-Semite, he's not your guy in this regard, Kanye. And I don't think Kanye is that dumb that on some level he didn't appreciate that. Well, Candice Owens, who's looked up to Kanye for so many years, do you think that she will also take out an ad apologizing for some of the things that she has said? No, I think she's going to say that Kanye got the call, and obviously Netanyahu told him to write this piece in the Wall Street Journal. And you'll know it's true if you circle this beginning letter in each line and it spells something out. That's how you'll know. Yes. I have been looking into ancient Hebrew texts.

And I know through numerology and iconography that Kanye is being controlled. Yeah, yeah. Or now he was controlled before and now he was controlled again in a different way. By the macrons. By the macrons, yeah. BDE. So when you talk about being attacked by someone

who is in the throes of mental illness, because you and I have discussed this, we have experienced that. And, you know, it is hard to overcome, but is it possible for people to heal? And is it possible for people who have been traumatized, say, you know, the entire Jewish community, is it possible to forgive? Yeah, I don't think it's actually that hard. I mean, I'm thinking about, I forgot the guy's name.

There was a person. Mel Gibson. I don't forgive him. Not for half of those, not for Turner Huch. He owes me an apology for that. That was worse. I'm not going to make, okay, I had a joke. I'm not going to do it because we're in air.

But I don't mind. I mean, now are we on air? I don't know that we are. I want to stay on air. I'm Jewish. I'm not, I don't have animosity toward Kanye West particularly. I don't think he owes me or particularly an apology. I just hope that anyone who is struggling and going through it becomes a better person and moves on.

I think it's very odd that we're all. expected and you've experienced this being famous, as you said, since the 90s. In public, everyone's supposed to have an opinion about every celebrity and have some kind of insight into what's going on. We don't know his life. We don't know what's going on over there. Like he said, obviously some very hateful, hurtful things and selling swastika t-shirts and so on and so forth. So who knows what's in the guy's heart. He's also said some awful things about his ex-wife, Kim Kardashian. Has he? Yes. Talking about how she wanted to have an abortion and he talked her out of it. He's sexualized and attacked at Jay-Z and Beyonce's kids.

Oh, really? Yeah, no, he's really, really gone for it. And, you know, I think about Kim Kardashian and how difficult it is navigating a divorce and the dissolution of a marriage and what that does to a family in the best of circumstances. Yeah, of course. But, you know, to have to do that in the press, in the open, with someone attacking you, with such vitriol, I don't know how she unrings that bell. Like for her, I think that's a very difficult position

because she is already a very, very famous person. Yeah, well, my friend Bridget Fetty, the podcaster, has a great line, one headshot per relationship. And I think if, you know, Kim Kardashian had married, like, a suit, she wouldn't be in this mess. Like, she knew it was a snake when she picked it up. There's no way you're marrying Kanye West and not thinking, okay, there's going to be drama.

when he staged, when he stormed the stage and said, Beyonce should have gotten this award and took it. That's not normal behavior. Took it from Taylor Swift. Yes. And at the time, we felt really bad for Taylor Swift. And now that some of her text messages have come out with Blake lively, they were unsealed by the judge in her ongoing litigation with Justin Baldoni.

And Taylor Swift is allegedly mortified. that some of those private texts have come out that, you know, don't necessarily cast her on Blake Lively in the best light. Do you think Taylor Swift has taken a reputational hit because of this lawsuit between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni? I think clearly, don't you think? I don't even need those texts to be unleaked. I think from everything I was a gossip girl fan. I've seen every single episode. It was like a new version of Dynasty.

I watched it ironically or not an ironically. the show was the best. Chuck Bass was my style icon. Blake lively has always been like the epitome of this Gwyneth Paltrow, VAPID, brings nothing to the table, wilted lettuce, white chick.

And this lawsuit is such a great term. But it's true, though. And you see this lawsuit and the thing. And when people, to me, maybe this is my anarchist hat that I'm putting on, waving the anarchist flag, when people throw their weight around

and try to put, others down just because they have the strength to do so, that is like evil. And her trying to usurp and humiliate this guy, Valdoni, in the public eye, and it backfired on her, I thought was reprehensible. And if you're going to be friends with this kind of person that says a lot about you, I think Taylor Swift's mask has been dropping for a while now. You know, she's gotten increasingly political and she got her ass hand to her on social media as a consequence because for a long time she was untouchable, you know, she's, oh my God, she's had 50 breakups, the poor thing. Maybe it is you. And then she sings about maybe it is me.

Okay, so fine. I think she doesn't know what to do when, as you said earlier, she's not America's speed her anymore. Like she doesn't know how to have that lane as a real kind of vindictive nasty B word. It's not her brand. And I think when people like that have a very fragile public image, they freak out when things start to become...

Because you can't unring that bell. Once you see her in that context, that's how you're going to perceive her. And I don't know. I've never liked her. I don't get her at all. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. I'm Jessica Rosenthal.

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It's really interesting because. Yeah, that's the phrase. But she kept going. She kept pushing after, you know, even in her lawyer's defense of her when her name was brought up in the Baldoni lively suit, her lawyer was like, she never stepped foot on the movie set. She had nothing to do with the production or writing of the film. She offered one song.

And then she headlined the biggest tour in history. And, you know, and that's when I knew that her image was getting away from her. Because, you know, you can grant her, yeah, the heiress tour was massive. There's no pop star, no living pop star who will ever come close to that. So it's like the smart thing to do is to humbly take in all the accolades and adoration and step away for a little bit. But she kept pushing every aspect of her life. And when you push that hard, it's something is, you know, It's like Alexander the Great.

At some point, you cannot keep up the facade. The empire is going to fall. Yeah, Taylor Swift is the new Alexander the Great. I see the media headline right now already. MTV-O compares Taylor Swift to Alexander the Great Great Work Kennedy. It's apt. I stand by my statement. I do.

But now she's going to get married and they're going to have, you know, little Uber babies. There's no way she I don't, you can't, you've, you've been around around these people for decades. There's no way you could be that prominent and that famous and that successful for that long of the music industry and remain sane. That is my official position and opinion. It will look at, look at Brittany. Brittany did not have to end up this way. Like they all become broken to some extent. Look at Michael Jackson. I don't think this woman as well, but then what do I know? I don't know her personally. I always just, that's really interesting that you bring a Britney Spears and Michael Jackson because with Britney Spears, there were probably signs of mental

illness from a very young age. And unfortunately, she was thrown into the crucible as a child actor and performer. And, you know, when parents get that excited about your success and you become this lucrative thing, when you are supposed to be, you know, becoming a person and to defend. developing a sense of self. And, you know, when you suffer from arrested development because you're that big, that quickly, Michael Jackson the same way. And there was, you know, clearly some level of abuse, physical or sexual, definitely with Michael Jackson, maybe with Britney Spears. And it's hard to convey to people how big of a mind cuss fame is, especially when you're young.

developing and when you should be left to your own devices with your own friend group to make mistakes and be awkward because that's how you mature into a well-rounded adult. That cannot happen when fame arrests your development from the time you are a child. And all the money and all the notoriety in the world doesn't make you better and it doesn't make it go away. You know, and even under a conservatorship, you look at what has become of Britney Spears. And all of the aspects of her life have led to and fed into the mental illness and the spiral that she continues to experience to this day. I forgot the actress's name, Moira something. She played Matilda and she was a child actress in several other movies, whatever her name was.

She just had an interview where she was talking about. I was a kid. Matilda is not, you know, Britney did risque, you know, videos, right? hit me maybe maybe one more time is sexualized. Matilda is the opposite of that. It's just for kids. But she would get messages from adults. She would have her head photoshopped onto naked bodies. She still sees it all the time. She's like, I was a child and, you know, perverted older men were hitting on me and sending me all sorts of stuff. How are you going to navigate that? Like, it's traumatic enough when you're just a kid in high school and you're developing and, you know,

people, your teachers start looking, you were something like that as a young girl. But when you're in the public eye, and this is, you're in the public eye, and this is, you're, is your reality and you can't really fight back because you're the moneymaker for mom and dad. It's really a dark, dark, sinister thing. And I think there's a realization that, you know, Los Angeles has this kind of Hollywood, has this CD underbelly and has for over a century.

But there's not really anything that could be done about it or is being done about it. So not when you have greedy parents. That's right. And greedy producers. Yes, greedy producers, greedy parents, greedy managers and agents and publicists. everyone who's going to take their cut. And the only thing that matters to them is that the gravy train keeps chugging along.

Because, you know, if you emerge from that and you do have some really serious untreated mental illness and, you know, substance abuse, who do you trust? Like if you are Britney Spears, like, can't trust your husband, can't trust your second husband, can't trust your third husband, can't trust your dad, you know, you think your mom is in cahoots. You don't trust your siblings. Your lawyers are just in it for themselves. You know, whatever trust that they are trying to maintain like a legal trust, you, there's no one around you. So if you have a new doctor, a new psychiatrist, a new faith healer, why would any of their input be genuine? And so, you know, what's the one thing you can turn to? I don't know.

meth and fireball, I guess. But it's all said you had to deal with this when you left MTV. What happens when you're 12 and your career's done? Like what you talked about, you and I talked about this. This is your identity, right? You're a kid. You're famous, your entire life. 12 years old, phone stops ringing.

You're supposed to, you're at the same time, you're like five because you developmentally stop when you're a kid. Your career's over. People aren't interested in talking to you anymore. That's got to be even more traumatic in a sense than when the gravy train keeps going. Like, what do you do now? You're going to have a regular, look at day. Dana Plato is another example.

After she left different strokes and she just spiraled out of control and very tragically died at a young age. It's, it's, the people get the kid from Small Wonder, one of my favorite shows from the 80s about a dad who makes a robot daughter. The son was homeless, you know, living under a bridge. It's like these people get discarded as soon as they hit 12. And it's people like, oh, remember whatever happened to him? Well, now he's in a box. Yes. And then, you know, remember the guy from the Cosby Show, the boyfriend from the Cosby Show?

who was working at Trader Joe's. Right. And, you know, tabloids were making fun of him. And I'm sitting there looking at going, you know, the guy is working and he's making an honest wage and providing insurance for himself and his family if he has one. It's like, who cares? He always got a smile on his face. It was a huge back to that story on social media where people are like, this is great.

He's earning an honest wage. And I think he had a huge outpouring of support. So that was one of the happy ending stories. Yes. but it's, you know, it is, it's impossible to really allow people to see what fame does to you. Because it's not just what it does to you. Because, and I see this with reality stars a lot. You know, you know reality stars.

You know people who have been on shows like Survivor and, you know, different Bravo shows. When you get a little bit of fame and it's not sustainable because you're famous for being part of a cast in a moment, that's what really drives people. You know, it's different than a band who doesn't have any more hits because there are a lot of bands from the 90s. They still go on the road. And, you know, they play their catalog from 1995 and people turn out and they want to see it. But, man, if you were on a reality show in the early odds and, you know, you're still trying to milk that dry teat. It's rough. Take that, Eric Neese.

And by the way, if Allison's Halo from the 90s comes to your time, make sure to see them because they're still putting on new music in there. amazing. The one example talking about the Cosby show, Keisha Knight-Pollum was on the Celebrity Apprentice, and she was the first person eliminated her season. And at the reunion, it was very clear Trump had no idea who she is. So he's reading the cue cards announcing the cast and he goes, Kashia Knight Palam, and it goes to commercial, comes back and he pronounced her name correctly. He goes, oh, sorry about that. You were terrific. No idea who she is. She's now the energy secretary. Well, you're, you joke, but Omarosa was in the White House.

She was, absolutely. And Patrick Duffy. Sean Duffy, which everyone from N.P. Patrick Duffy was from Dallas. He played Bobby Ewing. That's true. He did. He's still with us, thankfully.

Oh, thank God. I was so worried that, that you were going to give me a unwelcome death notice. No, no, no. Don't say that. Don't put that out there, Canada. Absolutely not. No. Patrick Duffy, we need you.

And I'm frankly, lining up and looking forward to the Dallas reunion. I loved watching Dallas. There was a reboot, but lasted three seasons. He was on it, and so was Larry Hagman. See? Wishes do come true, Michael. Retroactively.

So last time I saw you in Austin, I had the great fortune of going to dinner with you, and the man known as Dr. Mike, who is impossibly muscular and hearsuit, all at the same time. And Ethan Suppley, who is a very, very famous actor. And you don't realize how famous he is until you look at, he's an FFP, a formerly fat person.

Yes. And I... Go ahead, please. It was funny. I talked about that he used to be a heroin addict when he was like 400 pounds. And I'm like, he talked about hacking the code. I think he's the one person who's heroin chic and also couldn't fit in a car. Does heroin curb your appetite?

Oh yeah, it makes you throw up. Oh, yes. I remember hearing about that because a guy that I briefly dated, who was in a pretty famous band, he, back when he was using heroin, which was before I knew him, when the Doors movie came out, he took two pints of Ben and Jerry's and two syringes full of heroin. And he shot one syringe and ate the... the first pint and then barfed everywhere in the movie theater and then he shot the second syringe and ate the second pint and barfed on the other side and he said it was the most satisfying day he'd had out

by himself ever i'm gonna guess you don't have to confirm that this anthony ketus but i'd a friend in college who had an eating disorder and she liked ice cream because it came up cold so i'm sure physiologically think about if you're going to be puking something you want puking something that's going to taste good on the way up. You're not going to want to be puking vinegar. You want to be puking. And be soothing. Yeah.

Interesting. He's a smart man that person. Thankfully, I have never had an eating disorder. I know a lot, a lot of people who have. And it's very interesting because with the rise of GLP-1s, it is, it's not just for people who want to lose weight. It's certainly not just for people who are trying to reverse. their diabetes, but, you know, for people who realize that they can get back to the kind of skinny

they wanted to be when they were anorexic or bulimic, it is, and they'll go and they'll get these drugs. They're very easy to get. You can get a prescription online. You do not have to see a doctor who knows your medical history. And people are developing really hardcore eating disorders with the GLP ones. You and I are about the same age. When you and I were going through high school, it was almost universal for girls to have eating disorders or go through that phase. It was extremely common.

And I think what happened in recent years is those young women who would have had body issues and unwanted attention from men and lack of control of their own bodies, they became transmen. They were told, oh, you're uncomfortable with your body, take testosterone. That's what's really going on. And I think it's the same phenomenon, in my opinion, what was going on with these high school kids. So maybe this is a return to form because you can always gain the weight back as opposed to have those secondary sexual characteristics get undone. But if Abigail Shrier talks a lot about this, how it was a kind of social contagion, and this is how one girl would decide that she's trans and then her friends would all kind of jump in the same boat. It was the same thing with eating disorders, especially in sororities.

Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on. Will Cain country. I've never made the connection between the two, but you're absolutely right because, you know, anorexia especially, and it is glorified among young women. And, you know, it's like they teach each other tricks and they encourage each other to withhold food and go into calorie deficit. And, you know, and with social media, I can only imagine how that kind of wildfire spreads. but I never thought about it in the same way,

seeing my girls go through middle school and high school during this time that we're in right now and the number of kids in their orbit who identify as trans. And it is the same kind of social contagion. That is so interesting. I've never made a connection between eating disorders and the trans movement.

And I'll tell you how dark this stuff is. When I was in college, there were three girls who were roommates. Two of them were named Diana. One of them was named Meredith. And they were tiny. So the two Dianas were like 105 and Meredith's like 120. And then Meredith got her eating disorder and turns to one of Diana's, the smarter one.

And she goes, you're the fat one now. So, I mean, when you're 120 in your head, you're the fat one, like this stuff is very dark. And if you're using these artificial, you know, medications to kind of get you to some not natural weight, what does that mean for everyone else who's like you got to have this hopson's choice do you want to be the fat one air quotes at 120 or are you going to hop on that train it's i don't like where this is going and it's also there's all this so-called body positivity uh in the media but the articles only praise someone when they lose weight they don't say oh she filled out her figure doesn't she look better and you and i both know what i'm watching this knows there's lots of people men and women that when they gain some weight it works for them they actually look better but you never see that headline No, it definitely holds up their face, but there's also, there is a lot of data that you want a pear-shaped body.

Like, you want a big ass and a small waist, like a low waist-to-hip ratio. Actually, it increases fertility and it extends your life. And, you know, we had this fake body positivity for a long time from Lizzo and Megan Trainor and Amy Schumer. and then they all went on GLP1s, and they all got super skinny and, you know, glorified it. It's like, so when you were singing, it's all about that base and you won a big ass, were you lying? Was it just a rationalization?

And I'm just glad that, you know, your fellow hipster, Lena Dunham, she's sticking the chorus, man. Yes, she is. She's bucking 400 now and looking fabulous. But isn't there? So the reason I bring up the dinner is you guys were talking about lifting and nutrition and maximizing what you do to look and feel better. You weren't talking about shortcuts. And that's all anyone wants now. Like no one wants to do the work anymore.

You know what? I think I'm in a t-shirt. I don't put on a suit. I think lazy's underrated. Sometimes it's fun just like to not do the work. You know, there's this key, this influencer who's kind of been making the rounds, he microdoses meth to lose weight. So, you know. Yeah, it's called Celsius. What do you mean? Have you ever had the drink Celsius? No. Oh, it's like, hmm, hmm.

Oh, it's like, okay. Yeah, yeah. It is, it is meth in a can. Like, I'm, I'm shocked that the drug warriors have not gone after Celsius because it gives you the shakes. And I can only imagine that's what bathtub meth feels like. I smell an endorsement deal. That was the best commercial or Celsius I think I've ever heard. Don't go to jail on meth. Go to the store and get Celsius. Woo!

Couple of cans will send it to the ER, but you'll be up for days. Homework of problem? Not anymore. Have you ever, have you ever experimented with anything in your body that maximized how you looked or? added muscle. Of course not, officer. I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, you want me to show you? Yeah. This is what a senile old man I am. I have to have this. Dude, I have one of those. I don't want to count supplements every day. Like, oh, did I, did I take my vegan adrenal? Where's my omega?

I've got them right here. I have the magnesium. Whoop. I have the, what's the? This one. Al-glutamine. I don't even know what these things do. Nice. I don't know. I don't take L-glutamine. I don't know what it is. D3. I just do what my coach tells me to do. I take ADK. I take BPC 157. That's a peptide.

I take NAC when I'm not feeling good. I take NAD shots once a week for eight weeks, and then you've got to take a month off. Creatine, that's the big one. Yeah. I tried creatine. I made my stomach really upset. Did it really? Yes. Oh, that's not good. Fish oil did that for me. I had the trots 13 times to the bathroom a day

until I figured out what it was. That was not fun. Was it expired? No, but thankfully it wasn't dysentery either. Only one way to find out. Yeah, that's right. You got a poop in a cup. Is that true?

That's what the hobos at the bus station tell me. While you're sharing your Celsius with them? Here you go, Irv. Take a big swig, buddy. You've earned it. He used to be an accountant. What a shame. I know.

I know. He just, he lost everything. We're thinking about a conservatorship. So now, this is something that is getting people very upset. I do not share their outrage. It's really hard for me to get worked up over a Super Bowl halftime show because I don't, I think the best ones are. behind us. You know, it's like, of course, everyone talks about Prince.

I was there in 1993 at the Super Bowl and Michael Jackson performed at the Rose Bowl. It was unbelievable. It was incredible. And it was before the troubles. I thought Katie Perry had a great halftime show. Bruno Mars.

Usher kind of sucked. That was really weird and he was on roller skates. Everyone is so upset about Bad Bunny. Am I wrong? that my outrage meter can't get past at two and a half. You know, we were told for years that a man in a dress is a woman, and now it's a man that dress as a bunny.

Is that progress? Who knows? I don't know. Point being... Kirk O'Bain used to wear a dress on stage. Yeah, you and I are both old hats. The man's a damn genius. God rest his soul.

We remember when drag was provocative and funny, and it wasn't this Disney kind of performance where everything's from like suburban white. women. So he's obviously doing this to be provocative. He's obviously doing this to get in people's heads and in their space. But that's too easy. Why he knows that. You know he knows that. Don't give the energy. But that's the point. People the audience don't and they're feeding into it. It's like when you're a professional wrestler, half of the people's job, their heels, their jobs to get you in the audience all worked up and upset. There's that that lefty podcaster with the, with the eight-faced

Let's whatever her name is. Yeah, Kristen Welch. It's something. Jennifer Welch. Jennifer Welch. Her entire job is to get conservatives upset and they take the bait every single time. So this is what he's doing. And then he could say, look, you know, I'm getting the bad people in his head.

They're the bad people. Angry. I'm the good guy. And it's a very effective tactic. And I'm shocked. I agree with you. It's a guy. How long have men been in dresses in music?

Like, this is not a thing. Milton Burrell was doing this in the 20s or 30s, whatever it was. Milton Burrell, David Bowie. Yes. My dad for a short period of time. That's right. Bowie's on the cover from 1971 or 72. The man who sold the world in a dress and everyone's like,

they had to ban the record cover from, and now you look at it, you're like, you can't even see any skin. Calm down. What is the big deal? I don't know. And I actually, I like Bad Bunny songs. I don't, I don't ablo Espanual,

but I like it very mucho. We're not going to have that when I'm on the show. this is an English speaking show, thank you. But the other thing is, if you guys, if you're again... English is the official language in Will Kane country. That should be on the screen right now. But the other thing is, you should be more worried about what he's doing when he takes the dress off.

Like, let's keep him clothes. That's what you want. Is he gunning GLP ones to try and make them gains? She's boofing Celsius. What do you think about Green Day? doing it though. Oh yeah, Green Day is, you know, Green Day is another one. So Billy Joe Armstrong, I have known him for years. And for a long time, he was more of a libertarian. He was like a left of center libertarian. And now he just rewrites all his lyrics to, you know, be anti-Maga.

It happened to Drew Carey. It happened to Penn Gillette. These soft libertarians' brains were broken by Trump and or COVID. And that's another example. So I, I'm not surprised at all. I have nothing. I don't have any greenie albums. I respect what they did in the 90s. If this is what they need to do to kind of stay on board the boat, I'm not going to judge them for it.

It's just kind of weak to me. He wore dresses too. Yeah, he was Billy Johnstrung. He would sometimes perform in the nude. Oh, there was, I remember there was a, he got really pissed because people were And in a dress. People were referred to his music as gals. which I think is really kind of funny and apt.

No, I remember Duky and Rancid's Outcome the Wolves and Outcome the Wolves came out around maybe a year apart. And I always thought that Rancid was so much better. And everyone gave Rancet a hard time because they said, oh, it's just a clash rip off. But their songs were amazing and arguably better than Green Day. I said it and I'll say it again. I couldn't get on board of Green Day because I'm too much of hip-up. and they were too popular, so I'm like, I can't listen to this.

They play on the radio, but it's also, it's got to be hard. We're talking about Child Stars earlier. When you're a heyday's, the 90s, that's also got to be a mind cuss for you as well. It can't be easy. I don't think Green Day, even if they're still packing clubs and stadiums, whatever they are, and I hope they are, it's, they're not going to be the same band that made that big splash when their first couple of albums came out. They can't.

No, but I will tell you, we saw Foo Fighters about a year, and a half ago in London and it was an unbelievable show i've no doubt about it but my point is like they're they're like you know it'd be like seeing pink floyd or the beetles like you just wanted to play the hits i saw oasis last year it's like i don't want to hear any of oasis no music but i think the gallagher whatever the bad one is lea or no i forget which one's the jerk i'm positive he's he's the silwyn angry yeah i'm positive that's not of spite for the audience because I think he resents having to go back to Oasis. Absolutely.

That's him giving them a thing. But it's so lucrative. That's what Kanye's trying to do. He's apologizing because he wants to make more money. Even if you have a billion dollars or $3 billion, you still want $3 billion more. And when that all dries up, that is its own mind because he wants, he was dropped by everyone, Adidas, Balenciaga. He wants that.

He wants the Kwan back. I don't know what that. word is but i don't it's from jerry mcguire i i don't i never i don't want but the i don't think it's just the money i think if with kane one thing he was talking about which i'm sure is true is he loses his status and he loses his friend group at a certain point like people aren't inviting you their house they're not treating with their respect and reverence and that i'm sure got to him on some level yes because he started attacking people in his inner circle yeah of course yeah and they're like no man You're too exhausting.

And when the realization hits you that you are the, you know, it's like, oh, you know, Diane, you're the fat ones. Like, Kanye, you're the exhausting one. And it's like you get to be a certain age. And all you're doing is fighting exhaustion. That's the thing. It's not just the hatred. It's just like it's enough already. It's always drama.

Like just take a breather, dude. Just give it a day without talking about Hitler. It's like, stop. That's a big part of dealing with the mentally ill. It's just it never stops or people with addiction. What do you think about allegedly DHS is telling FEMA that, you know, in the throes of these brutal winter storms, they're telling FEMA not to issue warnings about frozen water, also known as ice, when they are discussing the weather. No. Yes.

Are you kidding? No. Well, maybe they don't want like, like, there's ice on the road. Beware. It's like, oh. Well, I mean, they killed two people. So this isn't an empty kind of threat. Holy crap.

You know, people always compare us to idiocry. And it's like, I mean, we're nudging toward it. I don't even know what to say. Like, what do you say to that? I'm sorry. I've been at this game. You and I both did this game for every decade. And now I'm out of words.

Like, if that's where we are, I, I'm out. Like, I want to get up and leave. Seriously? Yeah. What alternate? They just say refer to it as frozen water? They don't give an alternate. They're like, just be very careful when you're giving warnings about ice.

You know, it's like the word now has some taint. So, you know. But the word had it before. It had a negative connotation before. If you're going on the road and there's ice, you're like, oh, I can't wait. This is going to be safe driving. That's the whole point. But they're, they weren't.

that there are there are people who are engaging in protest tourism who are going to hear there's ice on the road and be like oh i i have to warn my signal chat group it's i i am concerned in all seriousness about this you know you there was eight years of the resistance right and people are marching the streets and and acting out and as is they're right of course as americans with no consequences. And I think there's still in that delusion that I can just go up to like a cop and pistol whip him and nothing bad's going to happen to me. We saw in 2020 when there was rioting and there were no consequences. In Portland. And they, the, the U.S. Marshals who were guarding the federal building in Portland, there was an onslaught. And there were officers who were blinded

with laser pointers. And they, you know, they were doing the same thing. And the rules of engagement were very, very different. And the officers then, you know, we're told, uh, stand down. We're not going to prosecute anyone. You can't hurt any of the protesters. And, you know, that went on and on and on. So what changed in Minneapolis? But also, you remember people watching this, probably remember, Attorney General Barr had to go in front of Congress and explain why he sent federal troops to defend federal buildings. It was one of the most surreal thing. How are you not letting them burn down the federal courthouse? How dare you, sir? Have you no decency? I think what changed, is Trump is here's the I was on Will Kane show a couple weeks ago and people have two

voters can have two contradictory views in their head and not ever have to reconcile them which is they're perfectly happy saying every illegal immigrant should be removed but you have to do it nicely like you can't reconcile these two if I'm in this country and I don't want to go back to where I came from even legitimately because I'm coming from an S whole country which is every country other than America how are you going to get me to leave unless you're going to use force. Like that's what the law means any law. The law means if you disobey this law, people are going to put hands on you and take your

stuff or take you and throw you in a cell. So people haven't thought this through. They wanted to be done nicely. You're not getting millions of people to move nicely. Even if you're just taking them on a nice trip, it's going to, you know, there's going to be some problems. Well, we have no shortage of that. And thank God we have you right there at the, um, at the,

heart of the front, the general and the battle on idiocy. Michael Malice, thank you so much for being here on Will Kane Country. See you soon. You're a delight, a breath of fresh air, and one of the finest minds in all of American academia. Thank you so much. Academia. I know, I know. He doesn't like academia, but he loves America.

Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Kenny. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. So here at Will King Country, the producers have brought up a terrifying threat that has apparently been frozen out of the Atlantic Ocean. And we are seeing just hideous winter weather from stem to stern here on the eastern seaboard because of the rise of a Leviathan, an underwater sea serpent that is apparently bigger than New Jersey. And according to people who have been reading ancient Hebrew texts, the beast is real. It has been shown on satellite imagery and the military is keeping it a secret. Dan Patrick, anyone, just feel free to chime in.

Release the Kraken. Not the Seattle hockey team. But this terrifying Leviathan. This is Patrick's world. we're going to need him to update on when I saw this I was shocked that this is actually a thing so apparently this is on blue sky

and people believe that it's winter storm is caused by a Leviathan that it's just hanging off the coast on the east side it's going up and down the coast just hanging out and it's and it's a side

it's not just like Godzilla's size like I was telling Dan like you know a few city blocks it's literally the size of a state according to them. Hmm. And who are,

who are them? Yeah, who are they? Well, at blue sky, I'm going to assume people on the left. Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

Is it anybody? Okay, so we don't have enough chaos and unrest in our politics and in society. We have to invent new chaos

because I think people have gotten so addicted to impending fear that when the normal even ramped up fear doesn't work anymore, they have to mainline new invented fears. Well, we were promised aliens for the last couple years.

Did they just admit that it's real? Yeah, there's no one care. We haven't gotten aliens. So this is kind of BS. So now we need something. Yeah, something to fill that spot. Yeah, we need something bigger, something more sea monsterier than we ever could have imagined.

And what is it about people that they buy into these fears? And number one, that they think there is something that is that big, that is sustaining itself, that has gone undetected by, you know, commercial fishermen. They're just hiding it from us. I mean, with the number of satellites that are circling the Earth with Google Earth alone. You know, it's like Normies, civilians. Like, we could look this stuff up that all of us. has escaped our, our perception. And, you know, the military knows about it,

but the military, which is comprised of hundreds of thousands of people, and there might be some conspiracy theorists, that they're all hiding it? Well, I'll be honest. You know, I can't think that they're super crazy because I do believe that giants once existed in America. So, but. Yeah.

That's the thing about conspiracies, though. I mean, so many people have to know about them and hide them and keep them that I know human beings. There's no way that could happen. Someone's leaking that. Yeah, it becomes implausible, not just improbable. Exactly. I don't doubt that there were giants. I definitely believe in Bigfoot.

Really? Yes. Hmm. I'm on board with that. Yeah, I'm a thousand percent... Godzilla? On board. I don't know.

I don't know enough about Godzilla. Aliens, yes. Absolutely. Aliens, ghosts, Bigfoot, all real. Yes. Interesting. Speaking of distractions, I had a question for both of you. Star Search is back, by the way.

Have you seen that? I have. I didn't know what that was. I got to be honest with you. I was a judge on Star Search. Were you? In 1995. Get out of here.

And it was awesome. And Ed McMahon gave me a giant Mickey Mouse clock, a giant alarm clock that, I rescued from my damaged Pacific Palisades home. And I'm having it professionally cleaned. It's one of the few things that is covered in lead, soot, and ash that I will have cleaned in order to keep for the rest of my days. That's so cool. I mean, I knew of Star Search, I was too young, but I didn't realize how many people and famous people got their start from it.

I didn't realize that either until they started showing the ad. It's insane. Britney Spears. So she did that before Mickey Mouse Club? Well, that was, so Star Search at the time was at Disney World. Oh, interesting. So it must have all been, and I'm sure that's where they got the prospective kids for Mickey Mouse Club. Right.

Usher was on it. They would go audition for a Star Search. So, but it was nationally televised, right? It was like an American Idol at the time. Fascinating. I mean, Norm McDonnell was on it. Interesting. Initially.

Yeah. I mean, I just. And he bombed. He lost to a guy from Africa. And that guy's name was Barack Obama. He did okay for himself after that. A young teen from Kenya. Oh, my God.

But yeah, I watched it. And it's, I don't think it holds up as much as like the voice and all that. And America's Got Talent. I don't know. It just doesn't seem, have you seen it yet? the new iteration. I have not. And I love America's Got Talent.

And I actually went and watched the America's Got Talent live show in Vegas. And I was in tears several times. It was amazing. They did such an extraordinary job. And because they have so many people. They have such a massive pool from all the different seasons that you get everything. You get to see it live in Vegas. Yeah.

So what was your experience with Star Search? Did you make any kids cry? I was a judge with Dweasel and Moon Unit Zappa. No way. And we made each other laugh. Like we should not have been on together because apparently they could not cut to us as a group because we were laughing so hard through so much of it.

And Ed McMahon called my boss at MTV to complain that I was unprofessional. That's so funny. They're like, we have to cut all of this. We're not using any of it. And it's like, in my defense, I was like 22. And that was such a spas. And he were with the Zappas? Yes.

Like, what are you going to do? Yeah. I laugh? No. It was a different time, Dan. Yeah. I mean, I can't even imagine. But yeah, that's a cool story, though.

Those were the days. That and Hollywood Squares. We know Hollywood Squares? No, the reboot in like the early aughts. Yeah. Why is everything coming back from the 90s, though? talk about this? Clothing, music, everything.

Like you were talking about the bands from the 90s that are back on tour. I mean, look, you're in the final. I know. I've been on this for the last five or ten years. I'm like, you know, the 80s had like this really long nostalgia trip. Very long.

And I'm like, why are the 90s not coming back? Because that was way more fun, way more extreme. Like, I knew it was on its way. And now it's here. Yeah. And it's really interesting because my, my, daughter showed me a funny trend in TikTok and Instagram reels where you go around and you ask

people what year they were born and you know it's like 2001, 2006 and then anyone who says 19 they just cut to a shot of the golden girls or like bonanza or something. Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. I mean, I was born in the 80s and that never seemed weird. I was born in 88. It never seemed weird to me.

I'm like, oh, that's not that long ago. But now it seems a long time ago. Yeah, at some point it becomes a long time ago. Yeah. I mean, that's math, but yes. That's, but that's the funniest part. And, you know, that's also why I love being a Gen Xer because Gen Xers don't care. It's like, it's baked into our cake.

You guys bullied us. Don't care. And it's like every other generation is so worried about like, oh, I hope they think that we're still cool. Like we're baby boomers And we're gonna play pickleball And Gen Xers are just like flying the bird Like don't care And as millennials are trying to adapt

Gen Z lingo And it just does not work And Gen Z is like Oh my God, you wear leggings You're so gross You're so crazy You guys you millennials are disgusting Meanwhile they're wearing

All the same ugs And big pants that we wore Yeah absolutely Giant hoodies It's like what are you trying to hide I know I think my daughter tried to smuggle in a keg. Her hoodie was so big.

Yeah. Are they under the Janco jeans? Yeah. Probably get a mini keg under there. Are those back? Those are so back. They're expensive because they're online because they don't make them anymore. So people are reselling them on eBay.

Yeah. And they're like hundreds of dollars. It's fascinating. Oh, God. That's so funny. But I know, but now it's like that's the thing. When Retro comes back and you're in your 40s, you can afford it. You've been working for a while.

So you're like, it's probably a dumb purchase, but I'm going to do it because I like the way it feels. Yeah, originally I had to ask my mom for this, but now I could buy it myself because I'm an adult. And then put your mom in a nursing home. Yes. Yes, exactly. Even though she's way too young. Yes. I know. But imagine what people your age are going to be like when they're in nursing homes.

Like, you think the villages is wild now? I'm still going to be listening to Take It Back Sunday, but it's fine. That's okay. We're damaged. We're scarred. Yeah. Yeah, but would you want it any other way? So what happens to successive generations?

Because obviously, like, Gen Z, no offense, Hunter. Gen Z is known for being a little soft. It's like no one looks at Gen Z and goes, oh, yeah, dudes and pearls. Sorry, Connor. Oh, Connor. Sorry, I said Hunter. He's Jen Zier. He said he can call him Madison.

That's true. Or Caden. But, you know, it's like, are Gen Alpha's going to be like, tough? Are we going to have a return to the greatest generation? Yeah. I have a few in hours. Yeah. No, they're not.

No? No, I need to put them in jiu-jitsu or something because I'm like, these kids are soft. Softer than toilet paper. Send them to Giselle's husband instructor. No, no, no. For them to fall in love? Do you feel like the laziness has gone on in the generations? Because I feel like millennials get a bad rap as someone in the...

chat was saying, Suzanne. The millennials have got a bad rap for being lazy, but we weren't because we were the kind of internet generation, even though we can't afford houses now. No, you're the purely internet generation. Yeah. But, okay, so I'm glad you brought that up because we were talking about this on the five the other day. And Kat Timp, who is a millennial, was like, you know, it is impossible for us to afford homes.

And it's like, I understand that, but, you know, one of my big things with my girls is I do not want to pay for you to go to a private college. You know, it's like, I don't want to pay for that. I don't want you to go into debt for several hundred thousand dollars for something that you could have gotten either for free with scholarships or, you know, it's like just gone to a cheaper school and had essentially the same education. When you saddle yourself with $400,000 in debt and then you wonder why you can't afford a home when rates are high because we should have ended the Fed a long time. go? Sure. It's like I have a hard time looking at some of those choices going, oh, affordability,

Mom Donnie, everything should be free. Buses are free. No, I know. I fell into that. I mean, I went to college and, you know, I was in debt. I probably just paid it off, I think, last year. And I'm 37. And now I just got married.

I'm trying to buy a house. And, you know, I haven't been able to keep. But if you had after college 15 years of debt-free work. Right. And put away just a way. little bit of money. It would have been way different. Yes, then you would have had a nice nut right now.

I wouldn't have had this job, though, but, you know. Well, necessity is a mother of invention. That's why everyone's got to have a side hustle. That's true. Dan, if you were going to have a side hustle, what would it be? Well, I'm a musician, so it would be that. But maybe, I don't know, Pokemon cards. Okay.

Patrick? I'm working on writing some material comedy and stuff. That's cool. Maybe I'll get on Star Search. Yeah, you should. I'll sign you up. Yeah. I still think...

I did the American Idol route and I didn't like it. You've got to watch out for the African guy, though. He's a sleeper. I would get my CDL. Really? Drive a big truck around? I have this false confidence that I'm a great driver. And I really want to try out my skills on the open road.

Fascinating. I do like the little... It looks fun with the little cabins they have in the back Can you get to sleep in it? Yeah, I mean, that's my dream is to, like, have a sprinter van with a surfboard in my bike and go with my sexy teenage fiancé, go to different NASCAR races, and find surf spots, like, in between races. You don't even have any cargo. You're just driving it around. Exactly right.

You're not even working for anyone. No. Just in a big, empty truck. Yeah, but, you know, it's like got these golden handcuffs in this business. call show. Hey, I'm all for it. Sprinter band's not going to pay for itself. So it's like, you know, if this all evaporates, then

my only hope is a CDL. That's right. I say go for it. You know, it's not too late for a career change. Yeah, and then my sexy teenage fiance is he wants to be a blimp pilot.

I thought blimps are a thing of the past. No, but there are only a handful of blimp pilots. That's true. Which I think is the coolest thing in the because he's got his pilot's license. So, you know, it's like, how far away can a little blimp training be? I just imagine they have the steering wheel of an old pirate ship. Like, just with the handles, just turning.

We're going left. We're going left. Got to get over the football field. Yeah. The movie up? Yeah. And, you know, it's like you have one bad accident. And all of a sudden, you know, it's like you're.

Hendonburg. Who? Exactly. You're ruined for eternity. You just give me an idea of a question for Will to ask our president today when he interviews him. Can we bring back what is it? Zeppelin's? Yeah.

Lede Zeppelin's. Yeah. I mean, there is a massive subsection that is obsessed with the idea of blimp travel. Fascinating. You know, there aren't a lot of, and I think it's one of those things, it's like knitting. And, you know, it's like... You always see in those sci-fi movies, like the futuristic, old futuristic ones, they're all flying blimps for some reason. Yeah.

I don't know why. There has to be something efficient. They thought blimps were the future. But they have to be like self-propagating somehow. Do you think they have blimps just built places that just aren't flying around? They're self-propelling, I guess. Yeah. I think, you know, it's like there's a lot of unpopulated federal land out there.

Just full of blimps. It's like, you know, we think it's all romanticized with these Area 51 aliens, but really it's just a bunch of flying zeppelins out there. Get your man in one, get them in the air. I'll fly in it. Could you imagine, like, if they have, like, a safari park with Bigfoot and you could just, you fly around a blimps and the Illuminati, like that's what they're doing for fun?

Yeah. All it takes is one taradactal beacon, you're done. That's why you can't bring back everything. You can't bring back every trend from the 90s. We will try still as a society, though. All right. We will side hustle our way into the future, taking elements to the past, best practices, and conquering in the name of Will Kane.

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