Will Cain Country - Cody Tucker: The Best Of American History! PLUS, The Left Manufactures A 'Constitutional Crisis'

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Story #1: Two weeks ago, the Left's favorite talking point was "Oligarchy.' One week ago, they moved to the term 'shadow government.' And now, they are parroting 'constitutional crisis.' Story #2: Inside mind-blowing historical facts with Instagram sensation, Cody Tucker.  Story #3: Which one of The Crew went on American Idol.... Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for $5.5 plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. One, in the voice of Casey Casey, topping the charts two weeks ago on this day, your favorite Democratic talking. point oligarchy. One week ago, your favorite Democratic talking point, shadow government. But topping the charts this week, coming in at number one, constitutional crisis. Two, random history facts made viral on Instagram by Cody Tucker.

Three, someone here on the Wallitia, get this, I just learned it yesterday, was on American Idol. It is the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Terrestrial radio and a growing number of markets across this great United States of America, but always available, to subscribe at Spotify or on Apple. more of you are joining us every day right here at 12 o'clock eastern time on youtube facebook and at foxnews.com numbers going up as they are on the fox news channel fellas the ratings came in and it looks like since its debut the will cane show is up 68% on the yearly average is that good from its predecessor and 94% year over year meaning take that same time period and compare it to this time period one year ago doubled up the ratings in the demographic the coveted 18 to 54

up 109 percent so we're off to a roaring start which by the way two days has translated over here as well onto the will cane digital show we have seen a growth in the willisha yeah we have a great audience building every day in the live chat we love you guys great numbers Facebook trending upwards Facebook numbers are getting big I don't know if that's because of the audience or because maybe we're not shadow band Who knows

That's what I wonder as well Yeah 100% Have we been unlocked On Facebook whatever it is We like the current status Much more than the previous status We like more of you joining us And the way that you can by the way

As two at eight points out Is that you subscribe on YouTube And then just drop it in the comments section become a member of the militia and we bring you into the show we like this to be a conversation speaking of that it was an interesting conversation that unfolded yesterday with a little uh huh i did not know that about one of the members of our crew one of the boys i'm not going to unveil who it is i'm going to keep you guessing it's called a deep tease so let's just put it this way you can take your bets who was on at one point american idol

Was it Young Establishment James? By process of elimination, you would say he's much too young to have ever been on American Idol. If I said the voice, I think you might have had a safer bet for Young Establishment James. Was it tinfoil pat? Interesting idea there. Would not blow me away. Would not blow me away. Or was it, Today's Dan, our Brooklyn hipster.

Save your votes. Jump into the comment section. And we'll reveal it here a little bit later, as it was revealed to me. We have an absolutely fascinating guest today that I was diving into earlier this morning, and I'm pretty open about how I produce. You guys know this about me, you guys watching, and you guys working on this show. We're working on transforming the television show into a little bit more of the way I do things, which is spontaneous, living out loud, and authentic. Meaning, I don't want to be driven by a script, and I don't, I don't sometimes tell people what I'm going to do ahead of time. but I think I'm going to I'm a big fan by the way just as an example of a guy named Wade Stott's who I discovered on X and Wade's really good and he does some really fascinating monologues and so forth and we've brought him into the the Will Kane show on Fox News Channel but I don't just want to do a regular old formulaic guest hit I want to see what Wade can do and what he does and I want to help build up some people I think are really good I'm liking who we're scheduled to sit and talk with today.

Today we'll be a long, wide-ranging conversation about a guy who's taken history, which you know I love. And I had a conversation over the weekend to Super Bowl that sometimes the news gets enthralled with new. It's the very nature of the word, what happened today, what is new, that is news. But you can't start a conversation on third base. You got to sometimes help everybody understand how you got there. Was it a triple? Were you moved by the previous batters of the base runners? Did you steal your way to third?

how did we get from first to third and that takes some context that takes some understanding some history i love it i i don't know if you know audiences love it but we're going to find out because i want to for example not just say yo trump's interested in greenland but i want to know like let's talk about the history of us making bids on greenland throughout the 1800s and into american history and why let's like dive into the map i need some visuals i want to know like what is you guys know i love the northeast passage right the northwest passage that was that drove you understand the idea of how do we get from western europe to the pacific more easily than going around the horn of africa drove humanity for a century like this is captain james cook

discovering hawaii how did he discover why because he was looking for the northwest passage on and on i mean just how did all these guys you know lose their lives freezing in the Arctic? Why did they lose their lives freezing in the Arctic? Looking for the Northwest Passage. Well, that as well is tied into why we want as the ice melts somewhat and we develop technology, which Russia dominates on ice breakers, icebreaker ships. Why do we need Greenland? What modern strategic advantage makes it so important. So I love that context. And my guest today dives into random facts about history. that sometimes you didn't know.

It's the minutia sometimes in history that you didn't know about, say, Ulysses S. Grant. And we're going to be diving into that a little bit later with Cody Tucker. But let's get into it now with the latest Democratic talking point. It's hot off the presses, guys. I mean, it is an absolute chart stopper. Let's get into your favorite song, constitutional crisis with story number one.

For our story number one, we're going to dive into constitutional crisis and many other things in the news with a round of quick hits with the most electric man in television and broadcasting, Don tinfoil. Take it away. It could have easily been me on American Idol, Will, because of the things I do here and the experiences. But we'll see. The term, the left's new rhetorical term, is constitutional crisis. We have a few examples for you. And we're going to play the first one. This is Caitlin Collins of CNN on sharing her constant response. We are three weeks into the second Trump presidency, three weeks. And tonight, there are warnings that the U.S. is dangerously close to a constitutional crisis. Now, the first shoe on this dropped when a federal judge today said the White House is defying his order to unfreeze billions of dollars in federal aid. Defying.

All right. Caitlin Collins, the voice of objectives. media laughs the crowd at Stephen Colbert's audience. It is not just Caitlin Collins, right, tinfoil? This is a viral hit. It's not a solo act. She's not necessarily dominating the charts on her own. It's like a We Are the World version of all your greatest stars in left-wing media

parroting this new talking point. Let's go now to Elizabeth Warren. It's not just the media, it's senators. We've got our toes right on the edge of a constitutional crisis here. Constitutional crisis. It's also tenfold, something I saw, well, I was reading about my ratings this morning. So I saw a lot of press coverage of my rating. So I was reading CNN's Brian Stelter, whatever it's called.

I don't know what it's called, his newsletter about media. Thank you, Young Establishment, James. Of course you know the name. And he did lead, he did mention the rock star ratings at the Will Cain Show, but he did lead with the reality of the constitutional crisis. And it's so fascinating to see him do so because he actually catalogs how it's taking over the media. It's everywhere. And it is viral. And it is, first of all, need to be placed in context.

This is such a naked tactical play. As I mentioned, one week ago, it was shadow government. Two weeks ago, it was oligarchy. Six months ago, it was threat to democracy. Three or four years ago, it was pandemic of the unvaccinated. And I can't keep up with all of them. And it spreads so fast. That famous video of all those newscasters, all saying, pandemic of the unvaccinated,

reading the exact same thing is so fascinating. It makes you wonder about the people giving you your information. information. Why do we worry about AI? We're in the age of AI. Like if you're all saying the exact same words, you are artificial intelligence. And it is also, it is also so fraudulent. Look, you'll never convince me. And I don't think this is a subjective opinion. I think this is an objective fact that the left is not just uninterested in, but antagonistic to the idea of the Constitution. Throughout its history, the progressive movement has seen the Constitution as an impediment. They want a living, breathing constitution, which means interpreted to the current

movement and not to be constrained by whatever it is. They don't like checks and balances set forth in the Constitution. Article 1, Article 2, Article 3, they have openly threatened to pack the Supreme Court when the judicial branch doesn't follow what they want to happen in the legislative or executive branch. So it's not real. It's not, it's not sincere. They are not worried about the Constitution. What are they talking about? Donald Trump's executive orders, hiring freezes, buyouts, birthright citizenship, have all been challenged at the federal court level, at the district federal court level. This is one of the places where I want to take a minute and get everybody from first to third base and not pedantically talk down or patronizingly

talk down to everybody, but make sure. Like, does everybody understand, do you guys all understand how the federal court system works. I'm going to ask the least political, I think, among us. Two days, Dan, do you understand what that means when I say a federal district court judge? So more of a local court judge and a state level and not a federal level? Well, I mean, district level. Yeah. So the country is divided up into federal jurisdictions, districts. Yeah. Do you understand how the judicial appellate system works? Like how many levels there are and all that of our judicial system? Not exactly how many levels. Nope. okay there are three so you have federal judicial districts across the country single judge

handled a district okay that judge has a lot of power oh so that's because that's where you have to start you know you don't start at the supreme court you start at the district level and a federal district judge has a lot of power to issue an injunction and do so forth an injunction being a stop well from there if you don't like it you appeal it to the court of appeals there are nine courts of appeals in America. So now we're down from, I don't know how many federal judge ships there are at the district level, but then you go to the appellate level. They're nine. In Texas, we're in the Fifth Circuit. That's with Louisiana and Mississippi. California is the Ninth Circuit, so forth. There you have three judge panels, but they have more than that.

They rotate. I can't remember how many they rotate in into it, but they make decisions with a three judge panel judging whether or not the district court judge got it right. And then from the appellate district, it goes to the Supreme Court of the United States. That's your third level, which is the final arbiter. You have the numbers of federal districts? 677 permanent district judgeships. Okay. And obviously, by the way, you can jurisdiction shop.

So you could file a suit in a place where you think there is a friendly judge who has a political leaning or past decisions that you can anticipate. The point is the question that they're all introducing is, does the president defy some random 665 federal judge. Does he defy his ruling? Well, the rulings right now are putting an exec on executive power. Again, we have three branches of government, Article 1, Article 2, and Article 3, Executive, Legislative, Judicial. And the executive is the power over his personnel. That's just a fact. The legislative grants the power of the purse. They give the money, the President spends the money on the things inside the executive branch. Should a judge really be able to say to Congress, hey, you can't fire congressional staffers? No, that's under the

legislative's ability to control who works for them. And the executive power is the same. So is it a constitutional crisis that Donald Trump is managing the federal personnel assigned to him under the executive branch? I don't think so. And I think this idea of a constitutional crisis is absolutely absurd. We'll see, and it will be appealed, and maybe he ignores it. These are also people who have been antagonistic to the idea of the Constitution on going to war, left and right, Republican and Democrat. How many times over the past 20, 30 years, have we been at war having nothing to do with

the responsibility of Congress under the Constitution to declare war? So don't give me any sincere worry about the Constitution. Jessica Tarlov has talked about this as well. Did she post this on X or did she talk about this on the five? It was on the five. Let's listen to Jessica Tarlow. Well, I think there are two issues at play. The constitutional crisis here is that Congress has been subverted.

So these are congressionally appropriated dollars. And we've seen this over and over again in the federal judges that have ruled on this. They're not saying that there aren't programs that don't deserve to be acts. They're saying that these aren't dollars that the executive can decide what to do with. But it is. it's like the difference between an accountant and a chief operating officer or a CFO and a chief operating officer, you know, the legislative being the CFO. Here's the dollars. Here's what we're going to spend. The president can't monitor that for waste and fraud. The president can't say

we're over-employed. We don't have to have this many people doing this job. That's insane. We're not a parliament. That's not who we are. You know, we're not the UK. We are a constitutional Republic, driven by a separation of powers of three branches of government. This, the fact that the executive has his powers is not a constitutional crisis. All right, Don Tinfoil, Pat. Take it away. All right, well, we got another one for you. Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth is bringing back Fort Bragg, but with a little bit of a twist. It is now going, the former Fort Liberty is now going to be named in honor of a World War II hero. This is a win. This is a against the Marxist

elements bringing back Fort Bragg is that a question or was that you opinionating I was asked question mark oh

Marxist um yeah I mean say there are elements in black lives matter well it is the rewriting of American history

to fit a modern palatable lens that we were led to believe was the mainstream for about a five-year fever pitch that we lived in from 2017 to 24, so a little more than five years. I don't know how long the fever pitch lasted, where we tore down statues and renamed bases. Fort Bragg, named after a Confederate general, was renamed Fort Liberty.

The Secretary of Defense said we are going back to Fort Bragg. He did find a workaround, to your point. He is not naming it after the Confederate General Bragg. He is naming it after, is it a World War II? war two hero by the same last name bragg okay that's correct makes everyone right to sit with well if were i to sit with the secretary of defense i would be very curious about this what does that mean for other look by the way common sense um those in the military continued to call it brag they didn't call it liberty okay they don't want you to rewrite history

there's a lot of reasons have nothing to do with confederate general my dad served at brag my granddad served at Bragg, I served at Bragg. You see what I'm saying? Like, it's a tradition. I put it in the first person. I'm not, no stolen valor, I served, and none of those. But the question I would have for the secretary would be, okay, you're going back to the name, but you're avoiding going back to the Confederate General. What does that mean for other bases that were named after Confederate generals that went away? So I'll give you another one much like Bragg that everyone is pretty familiar with like people are familiar with fort hood that's a pretty famous army base in texas it's in kaleen texas well fort hood is named after a confederate general um i had it pulled up just a moment

ago um what to know about fort hood you guys can check that out really quickly but it's been renamed fort kovazos okay that doesn't roll off the tongue nobody kind of knows what you're talking about um but would he go back because it was a confederate general to Fort Hood, two a days. Confederate General John Bell Hood is who was named after. Yeah, so that's my question for the secretary. And there are others, right? I think there are other bases that were named after Confederate generals.

I don't know. Is Fort Benning in Georgia? Was that a Confederate general? What's the base in El Paso? I can't remember the name of, it's not Lackland. I can't remember the one El Paso. It's highly featured in Lioness. Yeah, Fort Benning was named after General Henry L. Benning, who was...

Confederate General? Yes, Confederate Army. Confederate General. What is Fort Benning now? I'm sure they've renamed it then. What are they calling Fort Benning? Fort Moore is what they call it now. Really? Yeah. I've never even heard of that. I've never heard of Fort Moore. After Honor Lieutenant General Harold Herald. How more?

All right. Well, so that would be my question for the secretary. What about Fort Hood? What about Fort Benning? What is the movement? Okay. Take it away tinfoil. Last one.

Tennessee pastor Steve Cottle is not a fan of Elon Musk or Doge. And he justified violence in the name of Jesus against the billionaire in the company and his company. Watch the clip here. And in this nation, I'm worried that we. We are on the verge of bloodshed. This is an attempt to take us back to a day that we do not want to go and we will not go. Therefore there will be conflict. I pray that the peace of God will win out and overcome the madness that is attempting to take over this nation.

And I will say to you, beloved, no one likes violence, but sometimes violence is necessary. Elon Musk forces his way into the United States Treasury and threatens to steal your personal information and your Social Security check, there is the possibility of violence. Wow. Wow. From the pulpit. Wow. I had not seen that. Let's start with the premise. I don't even have a problem. with a pastor acknowledging the truism that sometimes violence is necessary everybody wants to avoid violence but sometimes violence is necessary that's true that's just the way the world works but for him to apply that truism to Elon Musk and Doge is beyond the pale what do we know about this pastor I don't know like is Chattanooga tin to see yes what what what church is this a part of

I'd be very curious this is a part of this is a part of Congregation. Got that with me. The Greater Second Missionary Baptist Church in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Baptist Church, violence might be necessary to protect your privacy at the Treasury Department against Doge and Elon Musk. I have to think that this should be a bigger story. I don't even know why, but I've got to think. we've crossed a real bridge

first of all it's just so shocking that those in the left this is their wall you need me on that wall you want me on that wall defending all of this government spending USAID and so forth and in fighting Doge's push for government accountability and efficiency is the wall that they intend to stand on

in defense of what and then to hear the links of which they'll go to fight on that wall from a pastor go ahead two days um so i'm reading here that he's on the planning commission of the hamilton county and the hamilton county mayor weston wamp has asked for him to immediately resign after making these statements incredible i would have to think that that i would i would want i would want to know the response of the baptist whatever division first baptist southern baptist i don't know whatever that is there's a

There's a leadership mechanism. I would be curious about their response of that message from the pulpit. Absolutely stunning. Okay, that's going to do it for us today on Quick Hits. Coming up, a man who dives into history. In fact, he makes these really viral videos. I want to give you a little taste real quick of what you're about to hear from Cody Tucker, who's joining us in just a moment on the Will Kane Show.

Watch this. In the 1500s, archers would practice using targets very similar to the targets we use today, except the bullseye back then was painted white. If someone was standing close enough to the target to be guaranteed to hit the center, they were standing close to the white, or in French, Blanc, of the target, which became the phrase point blank range. In 1600s France, people started making pants out of a stronger material than what was normally available. This fabric was named after the city that it was made in. That city in France, Neme. So, fabric Denim became denim. And a lot of those pants ended up being sold in the Italian city of Genoa.

In French, Genoa is Jean, which is why they're called jeans. In the mid-1800s, it was customary for ranchers to brand their cattle. Nearly all ranchers did this except for one Texas rancher who ardently refused to brand his cattle. That man's name, which is now the word that we used to describe an independently minded or stubborn person, was Samuel A. Maverick. Fascinating. Can't wait to get into that coming up with Cody Tucker here on the Wilcane show. But have you ever wondered what happened to the legendary Chuck Norris? I recently saw a video he made and I was shocked. He's in his 80s and still kicking butt and working out and staying active.

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and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com. I did not know how we got the word jeans. I did not know how we got the word denim. What Cody Tucker did. in his viral history videos coming up in just a moment here on the will cane show streaming live at fox news.com on fox news youtube channel and the fox news facebook page hit subscribe at apple spot affair on youtube and join us every monday through thursday live at 12 o'clock on any of those streaming

channels i don't know if you guys know back in new york you know when we broadcast from the digital will cane show studios here in dallas texas i often show some of the flags on my ceiling um coming into this segment here today I showed two flags one a blue field white star with the letters Texas around the inserts in the star the other a Mexican flag with the numbers 1824

printed in the middle do you know why I have that flag do you know why I have that Mexican flag I don't do you we're a bunch of northeastern kids are you are you a James Polk guy and wish he'd gone a little further south and I'm from Connecticut acquisitions that flag is one of the original flags of the Republic of Texas

although it wasn't officially a flag of the Republic of Texas it is the flag that that flew I believe that is the flag that flew over the Alamo so the defenders of the Alamo the revolutionaries in Texas were fighting for the enforcement of the 1824 constitution of the Republic of Mexico they weren't looking for secession they were looking to enforce what they thought was a violation by Santa Ana of the 1824 Constitution.

So that flag, which many people are like, why does Will have a Mexican flag in his studios, if it has 1824 printed over it, that is actually a flag of the Texas Revolution. I'll bet you, the man coming up in my show in just a moment, would probably know that because he makes history videos that have gone viral. He's got almost a million followers on Instagram,

where he gives you a little bit of fascinating history in a short amount of time. Videos like this. In 1860s, England, rugby and football were two versions of the same sport. To help differentiate it from rugby, the Football Association was born. Association football was shortened to ASOC football, then a soccer, then soccer. In the 1820s, when printing presses became more mechanized, those machines made a clicking sound every time the typeface was pressed onto the ink. That clicking sound that

was repeated over and over was given the French name for clicking. Cliche. The typeface that was used over and over was called the stereotype. In England during the middle ages, poor children would go around food stands and steal food. These kids were living in poverty, so some people would say, just let them go, for they have not. These children who had not were more likely to get into trouble, aka naughty. Ah, did not know that how we got to the word naughty. It's not just though how we arrived at our different places in language. He's also pointing out things that happened in history that you might not know about. His name is Cody Tucker, and he is the proprietor of these social media feeds and the Cody Tucker show. Uh, and he joins us now on the Will

Kane show. What's up, Cody? Hey, man. Appreciate you having me on. Yeah. One thing that sticks out the minute I see you or the minute anyone sees your videos is your style, man. Rocking a Grateful Dead T-shirt. You got the bandana going. You've got misfits and rush posters and behind you. Yeah. What are we doing here, man? You look young. What? What? What are we leaning into here? Well, yeah, I'm 31, which I feel like I look a whole lot older than that, but, you know, working on it. You look good, man. Doing well.

Thanks, man. Thank you. Hey, I would say I'm trying, but I'm not. Yeah, and, no, I'm just really into, you know, any, I mean, any older music, you know, it's kind of my thing. I'm not a big fan of modern anything, you know, so it's just one of those things, man. I love, yeah, Rush, Grateful Dead. I love heavy metal, classic rock, you know. I need to Abba, you know, span the gamut there. You know, I never listened to Rush.

That's one of those bands that, like, I kind of knew existed out there just as a quick aside. And since you delve into minutia in history, I'm just looking at that Rush poster over your shoulder. Is that a Pentegram? Like, what is that on the Rush Poster? It sure looks, from my vantage point, like a pentagram. I mean, technically it is, because it is, you know, a fendogram. five-pointed star in a circle, but it isn't a pentagram in the sense of like the occult or anything like that.

Because it's actually that album, 2112, is like, is a sci-fi story, which is, you could really go into the weeds with that one, but it's, um, you know, like a 22-minute song about this like science fiction epic. And that's kind of like the, the image of these like overlords, you know, in the future. yeah boy i sound like a real nerd right now but that's uh yeah well if i ever put you on the fox news channel we're gonna have to drop that man because no one's gonna take the time to know that's anything but a pentagram over your shoulders they're not gonna hear a word that you say but that's fair i can i don't i got plenty of replacements i'll put a glen campbell on there

make everyone happy there we go oh i love me some glen campbell why do you like everything old i think i'm a little like you i love history yeah you know like for example one of the things i'm into I love even in every form You know sometimes I think was I born in the wrong time You know like I love 1970s music But I love country Like so I love Waylon Jennings and Merle Haggard And in the country that was coming out then

I love some modern stuff as well I don't know man There's just something about that time frame That appeals to me And then like when it comes to history and movies I love 1800s And I love like I'm in American primeval right now The story of what's going on in Utah

And the Utah War But I also dig like you know, explorers from the 1700s into the 1800s who are on ships exploring across the world. I was something about that

that appeals to me over the modern. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, as far as pop culture goes, I just think there was something more, there was more of a mystique to, you know,

70s entertainment, whether it's music, movies, you know, like Jack Nicholson, you didn't really know a whole lot about them. Like, you, I mean, you could tell he was out of his mind,

but you didn't really know, you know you don't know like who he's day you don't like keep up with it the same way that it's kept up with now with social media and then music it's just there's just more talent it didn't seem as processed there was uh more room for for like innovative artists you know like now you if you are strange you're not making it that back then you know like it was or you're like david bowie the strange yeah the strange and weird or it's a affected and manufactured. Exactly.

Yeah. So I'm, I just, I like that. I always feel like I've had kind of an old soul. I mean, obviously I love history,

love learning about, you know, these like weird avenues in the past. And yeah, I just, I don't keep up with like the modern world too much in most ways. Well,

we played two of your clips today, which by the way, what I really like about it, I'm going to say two things, and I hope one of them is not insulting. Your presentation, your presentation style is unique. Like, you're not performing. You're pretty, you know what I'm saying? Which can become a performance.

Like, you're giving it pretty down the line. You're not opinionating, and you're also not theatrical. You're just kind of laying it out for us. And yet, your videos are doing tens of thousands of likes. You've got a million followers. And the secondary thing that I like about that is it just shows. I don't know. There's an appetite. People enjoy learning. Well, how about that? We'll just leave it there. They enjoy learning.

Yes. People do, people love learning. They just, school ruins it for them. Like public school for most people completely ruins the fun of learning. Like if you can get taught something kind of weird or dark about history, you grab people's attention. And, you know, instead of just memorizing a bunch of dates, which obviously have their importance and you should learn. But people, you know, people just have an innate desire to learn interesting things. And yeah, I don't try to like put an opinion on any of it because it's history. Like nobody really needs to hear my opinion on something that happened 300 years ago. So I just, you know, just say what happened. And hopefully it's interesting. And, you know, if not, that's. okay but yeah that's an interesting point that I may follow up in just a moment but I'm gonna do this we we played two of your clips so far today and in both of those you dove into language you talked about how we in America have used the word soccer which by the way englishmen should stop mocking America for calling it soccer because they're the ones that

called it soccer they just gravitated back to football and we decide to not you know do version 2.0 we didn't we didn't keep up with the updates uh yeah and then and then we followed your track on jeans and denim. But you're also doing other parts of history that there aren't necessary linguistic. I think we have this video where you talked about Ulysses S. Grant. What do we know about Ulysses S. Grant? That he was the leader of the Union Army, that he became a president of the United States. I think we might even know that he liked to drink.

I think he was a heavy drinker, and you might have learned that in school. But, you know, I think we have this two days. Maybe you didn't know that he also was basically the victim of a Ponzi scheme. Watch this. Ulysses S. Grant was a civil war hero and became the 18th president of the U.S. After his presidency, Grant began investing money into his son's friend's investment firm. Turns out it was just a giant pyramid scheme and Grant went from being very wealthy to having only $80. People across the country found out about this and began sending Ulysses S. Grant money.

Later that year, Grant was diagnosed with throat cancer. He had also been writing his memoirs at the time and finally was convinced to publish them. A friend of his wanted to publish those memoirs for him to help him get out of debt. That friend was the author Mark Twain. Mark Twain was able to sell 100,000 pre-orders of these memoirs. This made Grant happy knowing that he'd be able to leave his family with money. He finally finished the memoirs and died seven days later. Mark Twain ended up selling 300,000 copies of Ulysses S. Grant's memoirs,

outselling Mark Twain's book, Huckleberry Finn. Wow. See, there's so much in there I didn't know in what was that, a 45-second video, so much I didn't know about Grant. Yeah, he's a fascinating guy. And so, like, that kind of goes to my point is, why don't we get to hear little stories like that? You know, it only took me about 45, 50 seconds to tell that story. Like, why can't we learn that in school? Like, why do we just have to learn the things that are, you know, these things that are just not attention-grabbing, you know?

And I, that's kind of the... And history is full of it, right? Like, you know, when I'm watching that video, history is absolutely full of these. I don't know how many videos you have up. I'm a pretty recent, you're a pretty recent discovery for me. But, like, maybe people know, you know, Jefferson Adams dying on the same day, right? Right. The 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, yeah.

Fascinating. But I don't know, like the details of, let's see, the presidential assassins, you know, like, who were they? why were they there's just so much have you done these videos like there's so much to learn yeah i did one on charles coteau in america yeah i did one on charles gatoe who shot uh i believe garfield i think it was garfield uh yeah he was in a i think i thought mckinley was the mcginley i think was the like serbian or slovenian guy oh i might be wrong about this but yeah i'm pretty sure was garfield that uh gatto shot but he was in like this weird you know sex cult that also made like silver and it's the Oneida Silver Company, which if you still go by like

Silver Spoons, they're made by Oneida Silver Company. And he was like in that cult who, you know, and then he went and shot him. And then like Abraham Lincoln's son was present at almost every assassination besides Kennedy, obviously. But yeah, he was there when Garfield was shot and when McKinley was shot. Wow. Which is weird. I just got two days did the fact. check. It was Garfield. It was 1881 for Charles Coteau. Charles Couto, by the way, just a dude lost to history. We don't even learn about him. He's not even present. Yeah, exactly. And he's, I mean, he's fascinating. He believed that he was the reason that Garfield was elected and should be given this cabinet position, which, you know, obviously Garfield has no idea

who this guy is. And he's writing letters to him saying, you know, where's my position? Why am I not getting promoted to this job that I was never promised and that's why he killed him just because of that i mean he was like a absolutely insane person what is your favorite part of of history cody oh um i i like like victorian england i think is very interesting you know like the whole like kind of jack the ripper sort of time and then ancient rome ancient rome is just endlessly fascinating. What is it about both of those? What is it?

And I can tell you mine and the wise as well, but I'm curious what attracts you to those two periods in history. So ancient Rome, there's just something, it's hard to explain why the idea of like an emperor and like Julius Caesar, Mark Antony, you know, like these people, why they're so, there's something so enigmatic about that time. And I guess because it's so long ago, but it was just this. massive empire and then there's so much like ancient roman influence like today like the words that we use and things like that like so much of it comes from obviously latin but the

specifically latin during ancient rome um and then Victorian england I just uh I like the aesthetic of it like I like how it looks like the you know the way people dress the I don't know there there's that side and then there's like the darker side of it with like like the Jack the Redbird, the whole industrial revolution going on where, you know, everything's kind of grimy and, yeah, I like that kind of aesthetic of it. I have trouble. You know how the whole thing is like, how often do you think about the Roman Empire, that whole meme about men? I don't think I'm actually one of those guys that satisfies that.

I have trouble with ancient Roman ancient Greece in that, and this is where you come in and technology comes in. I have trouble identifying with Seneca, you know, or somebody like that. Because they are, their place in history at this point is a bust, like, you know, made of stone. And they have names that I don't relate to. And I'm just telling you the way it is, not that it's right or wrong. Right. But I saw, there's a viral AI video going around that takes the vision of Roman emperors, the faces of Roman emperors, and AI turns them into humans.

like what they actually looked like and for example julius caesar looks different than whatever you think of in that you know that flat gray stone bust you're like oh man he was a blonde he was a blonde shocking yeah yeah he looks like anne hache yeah he does look like anne hache that's exactly right and and all of a sudden i'm like oh and it gets more interesting when i can connect to them in that way and then so mine cody is uh Mine is 1800s America, Western Frontierism. And then it is separately late-1700's English exploration. It is James Cook.

I just read a book about, I read The Wager by David Graham about shipwrecks, you know, in South America. And I think that there's a tie that binds both of those for me. Kind of like you said, there's a mystique to 70s music. There's a mystique to life, to exploring, to venturing dangerously into the unknown. And it's extremely manly. You know, it's like, it's extremely, like, can you imagine? And every time I romanticize it, then I read the book and I'm like, oh, my God, this is an awful life. Like, I don't not want to be on a ship exploring the Pacific for a year and a half at a time.

I do not want scurvy. Yeah, it sounds terrible. The Wild West sounds awful. But I'm with you. I love that idea of people just going into the unknown, you know, the Horace Greeley, go west young man like that whole which i think it's horace greeley but yeah that whole feeling of like we're going to leave safety behind although you know even the east coast was not necessarily the most safest place but we're going to leave our comfort behind and go into this

unknown like it's um like the the donner party like that that kind of you know like that's a fascinating story you know Abraham lincoln was almost one of the people that left with the donner party and you know what really maybe yeah so he um he served in the uh or fought in the black hawk war uh with one of the guys who was leaving the donner party not uh the main donner but there was another guy and uh yeah they served together in the army both being from you know illinois and that's what the donna party originated out of was illinois and he invited them but then mary todd told him yeah i don't want you doing that like we have a newborn like you You don't need to be leaving to go to, you know, the Sierra Nevada's.

So he didn't go. But I think it was, almost. I think it was last week I had Steve Ronella, the guy who started meat eater here on the Will Cane show, has a new series out on the History Channel where he explores the mysteries of history, and he does talk about the Donner Party. And everybody knows about that because of the cannibalism. Right. Speaking of that AI video in ancient Rome, here's what I'm talking about, where they take

these guys and they turn them into human beings. Watch this. Here you can see Augustus and Tiberius. It doesn't have audio, but for those of you listening on radio or on Spotify or Apple, it's wild. Like Tiberius looks like, I don't know, he looks like he could be running a Wall Street firm, you know? Caligula looks like a Hollywood actor, you know, leading man type material. You know, Nero, Nero looks like, you know, one of my sons grown up he looks like a Logan or

it looks like Logan Paul that's who he looks like it's crazy looking at these guys and seeing the actual person Cody yes it's and and I'm I understand what you mean

look at Titus Titus looks like that dude that stars in the zombie show on HBO the guy that was in Narcos once the Latino guy I know I know exactly you're talking about yeah yeah it's fascinating I mean, Trajan kind of looks, well, geez, that's a kind of rough one.

But yeah, there's there's something about like how you were saying that you kind of have like sort of a disconnect from it because of just time. You know, these guys are just bust and there's just so far back. That's actually what I love about it, you know. So I understand what you mean, but that's what's so fascinating about it is that it's so long ago yet still so important to our day to day lives. you know, with just the way they ran their government, the whole, you know, the idea of like a Senate and some of these like philosophers, some writings that, you know, have lasted till today from ancient Greece and ancient Rome. Like, it's, it's just amazing to think that 2,000 plus years ago, well, for ancient Greece and then a little bit less than that for ancient Rome for the most part. But like for something that far back is still so important, you know, and I think that's what's. interesting is it like wow they figured all that out that long ago like that you know the aqueduct

or you're making these roads that they still use you know they still use those roads that were made two thousand years ago yeah and that's what i think is so fascinating like the aqueducts and the roads you also i read a book one time called the rational optimist by matt ridley and um it's talking about ideas are sort of the currency of progress through humanity but you can't take for granted and that we're just always going to progress. And the places where life has stopped progressing is because they constrained ideas. But the point is what I'm getting at,

you were at a high point in the Roman civilization, and then you went down. Like, it went down. The idea of civilization went down in Europe. Like, they lost technology. They lost the ability to move water, clean water like they did in Rome. I mean, I'm talking about for 1,000 years, you know,

life didn't continue to progress like they had established that high watermark in Rome well yeah I mean there's a lot of it it's just yeah because they were invaded you know relentlessly and it's pretty hard to innovate whenever someone's trying to you know when someone's trying to kill you every five seconds like it's so yeah

and but before then Rome was such a powerhouse they didn't have to worry about things like that so you have the leisure of being able to innovate, you know, things like that. And it's just not really a thing that happens, yeah, when you're being invaded by the, by the Huns and the vandals and whoever else. But yeah, I mean, that's, and then, of course, there's like the bubonic plague that comes later.

The Roman Empire gets split in half. Like, there's a lot of things that kind of ruin the Roman Empire. And then it just becomes the Vatican. Like, it still exists. Right. You know, the Roman Empire. It's just, it's the Vatican. Like it became a church.

Let's take a look at another one of Cody's videos here on what he's doing so popularly with a million followers on Instagram bringing history and making it digestible. Watch. In 1910, there was a massive meat shortage throughout the United States. So many government leaders started looking for ways to fix this problem. A representative from Louisiana named Robert Brousard suggested one of the wildest plans you will ever hear. He wanted to go to Africa and collect large numbers of history. hippos to bring back and place in the bayous of Louisiana. He believed that these hippos would provide thousands of pounds of fresh meat for Americans.

Not only was this plan brought before Congress, but was also backed by Teddy Roosevelt and the Department of Agriculture. The two men who helped propose that plan to Broussard were Frederick Russell Burnham, the guy who helped create the Boy Scouts of America, and Fritz Duquesne. A few years earlier, while both of these men were serving on opposite sides of the Boer War in South Africa, they were both one. once given the task of assassinating each other, but neither one of them did. Fascinating, man.

That's, hey, go ahead. That's the American hippo bill. Almost, almost passed, too. I want to go to some of our audience here. Cynthia O'Dell says, what is Wollisha? Well, you are the Wilicia, Cynthia. That's everybody, part of the audience here. It's not spelled W-A-L-I-S-H-A.

It would be T-I-A. You know, it's the military. Bad Buddha says on YouTube, Grateful Dead shirt and Fox News. That should be mutually exclusive. I don't think so. I don't think so. I'm into the combo.

Paul Castillo says, that's so cool. I didn't know that about some of the history that you're sharing with us. Mark Harbin says, dude is awesome. I love his videos. John Roberts. Cody Tucker is awesome.

Great videos. Suzanne says, I like this Cliff Notes version of history. Mars will rule says Rush, Grateful Dead, and Misfits in the same frame. My 80s punk rock mind would be so annoyed. That's a good point. Why? They don't mix. That's not my genre, Cody.

Grateful Dead, Misfits, and Rush. What Grateful Dead is is hippie Americana style, I'd call it. Misfits is what? Punk? Is that punk? punk, like horror gothic punk from New Jersey. So on opposite sides of the country. Yeah.

And then Russia, you know, they're Canadian. So the 51st state. Yeah. All right. Let me follow up in something you said earlier. You said, people don't need my opinion on history. I thought that was interesting. And in some ways, I think you're right.

In other ways, the challenging thing about history and why it's endlessly fascinating is that there's more to be uncovered is it's here's a truism that is true history is written by the victors it's just a fact right and they control the history books they control the narrative um it's why it's important to be the victor but um you know you can you can dive in to the loser's side of any portion of history and that's what's interesting to see the desimplified version you know um we see dan dan um who's the famous historian and podcaster Dan Carlin. Dan Carlin does way too many hours. It's probably 20 or 30 hours on the Persian side of the war between Greece and Persia. You know? Yeah. We see the Spartan side. That's what we always hear, right? We hear the Western side of that.

Well, the Western side of that simplifies the Persians into pretty evil people to the point you get to the movie 300, which I love, and they're just caricatures of evil, right? Exactly. But what were the Persians thinking? What was their society like? Why were they expanding? What was their whole M.O? Because the Persians were actually, while we talk about what was great about the Greeks, Persians were a pretty advanced society as well, pretty advanced civilization.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Persians were, they were like, I don't know if you ever watched Friday Night Lights, but they were kind of like the Dallas Carter of ancient history. You know, they were made to look like these just horrible people. and you know and they weren't you know the that's kind of how it is and then you know ancient grace would be odessa permian that's um but yeah and we look at alexander the great as being which rightfully so one of the greatest military minds of of all time but we look like darius and

xerxes as being you know the way that they're depicted in 300 you know basically nipple rings and all you know everything else like that's how we look at ancient persia but i mean it was one advanced civilizations of its time, if not the most advanced. I mean, one of the most powerful, like, I mean, they had, they were so far more advanced than like the Macedonians and the Greeks in many ways. But, you know, we don't see it like that. It's, it's, yeah. A little bit of a Texas high school football analogy for one of the greatest historical battles

of all time. If you don't understand Greece versus Persia, hopefully you understand Dallas Carter versus Osessa Permian. That's it. I've got family that's mojo, so I got it perfectly. And I was told before we came on air, Cody is from Longview. Yes. So we share, we share, I'm sure, our interest in Texas.

Yeah, I think that's why it's an endlessly interesting story to dive into, because you can see, A, why it's important to be the victor, but B, why it's interesting to look in to the other sides of all this as well. I think what you're doing is really cool, Cody, really cool. And in fact, I'd love to talk to you some more on this program, on other programs, and hear more about what you're going to build out there at the Cody Tucker Show. Thank you, man. I really appreciate you having me.

I've had a blast talking with you. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it some more. Let me get your number when this show is over. Check him out on Instagram. Check out the Cody Tucker show. He's making history interesting and accessible for you guys.

We'll see you, Cody. See you. Okay. That's really interesting. my brain is going a mile a minute on all the different ways and interesting things that you could do stuff with Cody Tucker. Speaking of ambition, somebody here on the Will Cain Show once had great ambitions of being a big time star in music.

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Hit subscribe at Apple, Spotify, YouTube, hang out with us every day, whenever it fits your schedule or live at 12 o'clock Eastern time at YouTube and Facebook. All right. Has the audience loved Cody Tucker, according to the comment section. They absolutely loved him. And I'm sure that's going to be great for him and his following. And I want to figure out ways to use him. has the audience weighed in

I'm sure they did a quick Google search and that's the easiest way to answer this so that's why sometimes you don't deep tease something because you want to get an immediate response who here on the Will Cain show would have been on American Idol do we have any comments and votes that are tipping the scales one way or another two a days

we have one that I saw says mixing board guy has a nice talking voice that's my vote mixing board guy new nickname just dropped yeah mbg

mixing board guy is also a Brooklyn hipster so that's another that's another little checkmark in his column tinfoil pat's counterculture

a lot of opinions on music you know so that's kind of a check mark on his column None for James. None for me. Someone's guessing tinfoil because he has guitars in the background.

Oh, yeah. Oh. I've never noticed that. Where is, in the far back corner there, is that a guitar? Is that a bass, bass guitar? Of course your bass. Yeah. That's exactly who you'd be.

Oh. Was it tinfoil that was on American Idol? Oh, wow. Okay. Well, let's do this. Let's roll the tape from American. and Idle, see who here, talk to, I don't even know who was on the show at the time. Let's find out. Hey, guys. How you doing? What's going on? How are you? How are you doing? How are you?

I'm here to see you. What's your name? I'm Dan Overlock. I'm from Guilford, Connecticut. I understand that you do something for a living. I do. In the television business? I do. TV and radio, the sports show. Dan Patrick Show. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's cool. What do you do on the show? I'm assistant producer, so I kind of just take the blame for things when things go wrong. Do you like doing that? I love it, man. I've been doing five years, the best thing ever. Yeah.

That's a pretty, you know, high-ranking gig. How did you get the gig? It's good, man. I just came out of college. First job, kind of knew someone, got me an interview. Yeah, and it's the first thing. Went to school for it, and now I'm doing it. And how do you find time for your music?

Find time all the time. After work, I go in early. I'm out early, so I get time to play at night and do things like that, yeah. That's great. You're going to play for us now? I am. Yeah, yeah. What you got?

I'm going to do the A team by Ed Shearing. Cool. What are all going to play? That's so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing. It was 10 years ago. Was it 10 years ago? So your judges were J-Lo, Keith Urban, and Harry Connick Jr.

That's right. Okay, so much commentary. First of all, how did I not know this until you guys texted it to a gesture? Who found that and texted it out? Who was it? I did. I did because Harry Connick Jr. was on the Super Bowl coverage and someone reminded me of it.

So I thought it was a funny little thing. So I brought it up. All right. No judgment here. Skinny Dan. Skinny Dan. By the way, a little hipster Dan, but also those jeans, could they be tighter and shorter? No.

Oh, yes. I had tighter ones at the time. I did have tighter ones, but those were the medium tightness. And then we got like some swayed ankle boots on. Is that what we're doing too? Leather ankle boots, yep. A little... My goodness.

Super absurd. My goodness. Buttoned up to the top. No, so... What are you going to play for us? You're going to play for something for us? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gave us a three... Gave us a triple yeah. I was so nervous, dude. Because you meet them ahead of time. They talk to you and you kind of talk through what you're going to do on American Idol. So you kind of like, hey, I'm going to do this. Not like fully scripted, but, you know, you have an idea of what you're going to do ahead of time. They're all super, super nice.

But it was the last year was on five. You met the judges ahead of time. Yeah. Not just producers. You met the judges. Judges, producers. Yeah, yeah. Real, real quick. Oh, there's the triple yeah again. Yeah, yeah. Are you nervous now? Is that why you gave us the triple yet? Yes, because it's, it was just, it's embarrassing watching it back. You know, 10 year old, you know, yourself 10 years ago. It's different than 10 years now, you know. So it's a little embarrassing to watch, but it was fun.

Okay. Talk to us. about why did you go on American Idol? So one of my really good friends and old roommate won American Idol a year before. Like won the whole thing. What? From my town. Who?

What? Who? This guy Nick Fradiani. He won the entire competition the year before. And his song was used on the Women's World Cup from American Idol that year. And then so we invited him on the Dan Patrick show when I was there. And we sang together on the Dan Patrick show.

And Dan and Nick challenged me to go on American Idol that year. Okay, okay, I got so many questions here I don't care how long this takes I hope everybody's into as I am So, okay, let me just back up Your friend Nick I've never heard of him Did winning American Idol change his life

At all? He's a Broadway star now He played Neil Diamond On Broadway for the past two years Yeah, he played young Neil Diamond And was he a nobody You know what I mean In entertainment business before American Idol?

Yeah, yeah He had played, you know, around. We played bars together and stuff like that. You know, we'd switch off nights and things like that for a long time. And then he started garning a little more, like, following. He put out songs and stuff like that. Nothing of, like, critical acclaim, and then he won American Idol. And then things kind of blew up for him.

So I'm curious, they've had so many winners of these competitions. I couldn't. You know, it's like Kelly Clarkson. And I watched the first couple years of American Idol. And then you quit. But I was curious, as the iterations went on, how big a stars those people, when I say stars, how about this? How much of a career were they able to establish off of winning American Idol? I think the longer it went on, the less likely it was to create a career out of it.

Like, you know, Kelly Clarkson in the beginning and all those people, because everyone watched it. And then the more you do something and the more you see every year there's a new person, I think it gets a little muddled. A lot of times the second place person would have a bigger career. Yeah, Morgan Wallen. They would be, sometimes the American Idol contract kind of boxed you in to what you could really do. That was a big problem. He signed to, you have to sign to a contract when you win, and you're boxed in, and they tell you what to do. So they made him do country music after that, and he didn't want to at all.

So he broke his contract with them. Yeah. It was a big machine, I think. Okay, now back to you. Tell me about the process of getting on American Idol. Like the fact that you were on the Dan Patrick show, did that help you get on? Was there, like, I'm not talking, what we just saw was your quote-unquote tryout, right? That's round one.

That's round four. Oh. What is it? That's round four? Explain. So, right after that day, there was an audition in Providence, Rhode Island, when Dan and Nick challenged me to do it. So Dan gave me the day off from work reluctantly. and I went up and you stand in line for hours.

I stood in line for maybe seven hours with everyone outside. Then you get up to the booth with three other people. You sing, you do your songs. And then they have your story and then they have what songs you're going to do. So yes, being on the Dan show helped. Who are you? But at this point, you haven't met, just producers. Just random.

You haven't met Connick and J-Lo? Nope, just kind of like E&G crews, just out in the field. And who's judging you? Producers? Just producers. At this point? Yep. Just producers of the show.

Like, you know, line producers, things like that. And then, so my biggest help was that I knew Nick, who won the year before. And I like to think I have a pretty decent voice. I don't know. We'll be the judge. But then you go in the back and then they videotape you auditioning again. Then they sent it to executive producers. Then they call you.

Then you come to another one in person. And then you get to the final one. Dang. How long is all this? Months? Is this months? I think it was three, three and a half months it took just to get to the main audition. And at the point at which you're now at the main audition, which is aired, you, what do you think the cut down rate has been?

Is it like 95%? Are you in the top 5%? Of everyone that tried out? Yeah. Probably 2% I would say. Not to sound like... Two percent. Okay. Yeah.

No, no. And by the way, I mean, I think you would admit this as well. We know American Idol. It's not just talent that is getting through. It's story. Yes. It's also, you can be really bad. And they keep pushing you along for the entertainment part of the...

Pants on the ground. Well, like the guy after me on the show when they aired it had, you know, not to be sad, but killed his younger brother in a car accident. Like, that was his story. And so it was just like they used that car. I know. It was crazy. I was like, why would you use that? Anyways, but I thought that was a little weird.

But it's that kind of thing. They kind of tugging your heartstrings or interesting story or, you know, personality, character. Or being terrible because, like, that's the entertainment factor of the TV show. Exactly. I mean, we want there to be some ratio of terrible people in there. Because for us at home, we don't know that you've already gone through four rounds, right? We want the idea that it could be anybody. That's the fake part of reality TV.

But, so it's going to be interesting to find out were you one of the terrible ones or not, that they pushed along. I picked the wrong song. Okay. I'm just going to throw that out there. We're going to get to that. Now, I have another question. How good looking is J-Lo? Absolutely gorgeous.

Unreal. Yeah? Unreal. I was like audibly gasped almost. Like, just absolutely gorgeous, yeah. This is 10 years ago. This is 10 years ago? I'm just beautiful now.

To this day, would you say, is she one of your top five? Top five most beautiful person I've seen in person. Hands down. Really? Yeah. Super sweet, super nice. Everyone was great. She was very nice.

That part. Now I think you're lying. Now I think you're lying. What about her being nice? No, she's very nice. Well, she has a reputation of a huge diva. I know. I've never met her, and I'm not saying she does, but she has a reputation of being a huge diva.

Right. But yeah, absolutely. Now, Harry Connick seems like a dude. He is a dude. He is a dude. He is a dude. Absolutely. 100% a dude.

Keith Urban, sorry, not a dude. he was he was i believe that yeah i believe that yeah but what do you mean by not a dude he was a little more closed off than the other ones and a little more just like i'm here to do this and that's kind of it but yeah hey i told this story this weekend at super bowl because at this point i've been you know i get to meet a lot of people

who are quote unquote famous and now i've met quite a few people who are really big superstars i already say this on air last week um the two most personable superstars i've ever met and since i if i told on air i've i've interacted with him a second time now which i haven't told you guys about this but brady's awesome brady hung with my son a little bit sweet in not long just talked to him um and he was an awesome guy the rock out of sight the most personable superstar i've ever met well the rock and donald trump and what i mean by that is

there is no sense from either of them that they're going through the motions zero no rush not trying to leave interested in you trump in the rock are something and and by way brady is awesome but there's a lot of i've also never been with brady in a um not public i mean there's a lot of people do you know what i mean not like huge crowds but a lot of people so there's always a little the demand on attention in that scenario. I've been with the Rock and Trump in one-on-one situations. And you can tell who's going through the motions, you know, in those situations. Yeah. They're amazing. And I would guess, at least I want to believe that's Harry Connick as well. Absolutely. I want to believe that's who he is. He was genuinely just like nice and, you know,

just willing to kind of push you through it and help you along. You could tell in that clip, he was like pushing me along because I wasn't very like on air ready yet. I hadn't gone on Dan show like, And so he was helping me along with what I, you know, directions I should go and talk about. All right. Let's get to it. Let's get to now your performance on American Idol. Right. White lips, pale face, breathing in the snowflakes, burnt lungs, sour taste.

Lights gone, days end. Struggling to pay rent Long night, strange men And they say She's in the class A team Stuck in her daydream Been this way since 18 But lately her face seems

Slowly sinking wasting Cumbling like pastries And they scream The worst things in life come free to us Thanks man Thanks man I made J-Lo dance That was my big claim to fan

RIS Bopping along while you're going I made a gif out of that actually So dude Okay Okay Full of curiosity All right

You're good You are good Like I would not say that First of all Oh thank you Gigantic brass balls Thank you gigantic.

I mean... I was so nervous, dude. To do that? To do that? And I know that I don't even know what I should or shouldn't be using the type of language, but there is nothing I could have said that is more right and evocative than the way I said it. For you to do that, I take huge ones. Big balls.

Huge ones. Like the kid in the government. It was probably the most nervous I've been in my entire life then and up until this point. I would have to think so. if I would have been there and I'd already knew you I would cry I would cry I would cry I would cry I know it like well here's why James I know this about me obviously I don't get a lot of stage fright anymore and I do this a lot so like you're on will okay let's do it but when people that I that I'm close with do it yeah my anxiety is through the roof for them like

like if my wife gives a speech or my best buddy gives a you know best man toast my my eyes will water i'll get so nervous for them that my eyes will water and my mom was shaking i think that's just she's shaking oh yeah my mom my sister my girlfriend at the time they called they're all blonde so they called them my blonde tarrage on the show my mom was shaking like you were saying the same type of thing um go ahead 10 foil. So your voices seems a little higher there. Does your voice change in the last 10 years or so?

No, I sing very, very high even right now. Okay. By talking voice is low, but I sing very high. Do you ever consider singing like something a little deeper? They say, just in the say, yeah, it's fine. People are like, what the hell? Wow. That's a little Merrill Haggard next time.

You need to start doing some music for our show. I know. Bump ins, bump outs. Give us some, like, custom songs. I know. I really should. Like, can we? Will you do that for us?

Yeah. We need some custom songs. I had to build my studio. I don't know what I mean by, I don't even know what I mean by custom songs. I know, like, some of the radio stations, sports radio stations I listen to, they have musical guys like you and they have like cool like intro, like whatever, our intro song. You know what I mean? I used to do, I used to do parody songs for a dance show back in the day, which is fun.

We're just tapping into your talents, dude. Um, all right, so Keith Urban cut you off? Is that who cut you off? Keith Urban cut me off. Harry Connick Jr. said yes. Keith Urban was a hard no. J. Lowe was a very nice no. Why is Keith such a dick?

I don't know. Yeah. We don't like him in my family anymore. Really? Yeah, no. Screw that guy. Just kidding. No, let's get to that, though.

You were good. Thank you. You're good. Really good. Wrong song. And so you think it was the wrong song? It didn't show a range of vocal, like a vocal range, which they really want. I get that.

It's more exciting on a show. when you're like, you know, it was kind of one-nody. And it was just the, they tell you what songs you can and can't do, and I had to pick one out of some. So I picked that one. What were your other options?

I can't even remember now. But that was just the one I knew the most. My humps. Go ahead, tinfoil. What you say? My humps? Yes. I write black IPs?

Yes. Yeah, that was on the list. Do you have range, Dan? I do. Like, can you do that? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I sang and choir my whole life. I played at bars and restaurants and bands and stuff like that for the past 10 years all over the place.

So if you had to do over, you to pick a song that had that in it. Yeah, I'd probably, my second choice was this Sam Cook song that I always sang at the bar. So I probably would have done that one because it shows a little vocal range and, you know, a little more of the, you know, vibrato and things like that. I don't know I know like one Sam Cooke song I think I don't even remember the name of it I was born by the river In a little tent

That one Oh yeah Yeah Yeah I love that song Yep But it wasn't on the list So I couldn't do it Yeah

That wasn't on the list But it was a fascinating Man They do a full interview for like 45 minutes They make you dance on camera Did he say Did he say it was flat

Why did he say no? No. Hard no. What do you say? I'm trying to think back, but I'm pretty sure is something along the lines of, you know, it's good, but just not good enough to, you know, push through and win this show. And so he's like, I'm not going to put you on if I don't think you could have a chance of winning the show. And I will give him that rationale in that there's no way he could hear that and say, you're bad. There's just no way. Right. He said he was good. Yeah, yeah. Right. But if he said good, again, it's the TV show side of this, right? So like, will this person compete to win at all? Or am I getting somebody who's going to make another round or two? There's a little bit of a yin and yang there. You know what I mean? And each guest, each host or whatever, only could say yes to a certain amount of people each day. So they get like, they can only say yes to like 10 or so.

so they have to pick carefully who they're going to put through what Jailo do Jalo was like I really love that song I'm gonna go know yeah your voice was really great I just I gotta go with Keith on this one and I just you know I just can't push you through I'm sorry

that's the deciding vote too right yep two or three yep and Harry was like yeah he liked the vibe I think he liked my story too because him and Dan Patrick got along really well so I think he liked the story of that too so I helped a little bit. All right, round of applause for two days.

Come on. We've got to give it up. Boom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That is not only brave and awesome, but I think it was really good. And I want your music on the Will Cane Show.

Screw Keith Urban. All right, really good stuff. Fascinating. What a fun show today. Check out Cody Tucker. Check out Dan Overlock at a bar near you in Brooklyn. We'll see you tomorrow right here on the Will Cane Show. Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcasts.

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