Will Cain Country - Democrats' New Scheme: Get Arrested, Go Viral, Play The Victim (ft. Guy Benson)

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

Story #1: Are Democrat politicians trying to get arrested on purpose? Will breaks down the "theatre kid" performances of the Left.  Story #2: Guy Benson, Host of 'The Guy Benson Show,’ joins Wi...ll to further debate what 'America First' means in the Israel/Iran conflict. Plus, Guy shares his thoughts on Terry Moran's claims that journalists were never supposed to be objective.  Story #3: When will the WNBA step in to protect their star player in Caitlin Clark from attacks? Plus, following Will Smith's recent explanation for why he turned down some major roles in hit movies, Will and The Crew ask "what happened to the movie star?" Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One, long-lived theater kids, Democrats, graduating from drama school, organizing to get themselves arrested and then proclaiming Donald Trump a tyrant for enforcing the law. Two, the debate between America First and support for Israel. A continued conversation over whether or not the United States should be participating in military intervention in Iran with Fox News, Guy Benson. Three, what happened to Will Smith, movie star? What happened to Bill Simmons' analysis of the movie star? anymore. Movie stars. It is Wilkane Country. Streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Terrestrial radio, some three dozen markets across this great United States of America, but always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. There are pages on Facebook and on YouTube for you to join the Will Cain country community, for you to join the Wallitia. Jump into the comments section. Yesterday, we had a nice conversation, a debate about whether or not the United States should militarily intervene in Iran. Your votes and comments were collected. Today we're going to continue that debate as it rages online between Ted Cruz and Tucker. Carlson, New Right, and Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:01:57 We're going to continue that conversation with Fox News's Guy Benson. We also have a fascinating revisit of a 2012 column that everybody here, tinfoil Pat, Two A Days, Dan spent time reading back in the early 2010s at Grantland. Bill Simmons column about the movie star. Now something like 13 years old, it's interesting to revisit what happened to the movie star maybe specifically what happened to will smith let's get into all that but while we're talking about theater drama and movie stars let's talk about the latest play to dominate entertainment the martyrdom of democrats story number one new york city mayoral candidate
Starting point is 00:02:45 brad lander arrested yesterday intervening in an ice detention of a suspected illegal immigrant standing in the hallways of a court proceeding lander linked arm and arm with the suspected illegal immigrant as ice agents came in to detain the suspect lander refused to let go playing a little game of red rover linking arms and demanding that ice agents show him a judicial warrant for the arrest he has no right to see a judicial warrant. Yesterday on the Will Kane show, I said he has no right to ask to see that warrant. Many on the left loved that particular phrasing. Keith Oldman said I was not an expert on anything, including hair care. Weird. Attack. What's wrong with my hair? But I don't know what a
Starting point is 00:03:45 bystander, even one running for officer holding the Office of State Comptroller has, in the form of rights to tell an officer in a totally unrelated arrest to anything having to do with said mayoral candidate to demand see the warrant. But this is the current act by Democrats. Play the martyr. Get arrested. Act like you're the victim as you break the law. You can see the video and Lander is absolutely obstructing officers in their arrest of this illegal immigrant. He is physically obstructing the detention of the suspected illegal immigrant. And shortly afterwards, he made the rounds appearing on MSNBC. When you woke up today, were you trying to get arrested?
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, I had hoped what would happen was what happened last week and the week before that I could walk peacefully out of the building with these families so they could reunite with their kids and continue to make their application for asylum. That is all I wanted. How are you feeling? I mean, I feel angry. I feel sad. I wanted to see Edgardo be able to get out of the building.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm going to be fine. I lost a button on my jacket, but I've got a good lawyer. I'll sleep in my bed tonight. He's in ICE detention. He has no lawyer. He's been stripped of status and due process. He feels sad. Not as sad, I would assume, as Senator Alex Padilla of California,
Starting point is 00:05:11 who took to the Senate floor to cry over his detention by F.B. for intruding upon a press conference by DHS secretary, Christy Nome. But Alex Padilla, marshalling all of his theater kid training, shed crocodile tears, cracked voice. He's really got cracked voice down. He's really good at sounding super sad. As he was detained for barging in on a press conference aggressively and not identified, himself until already law enforcement had been initiated. But that's
Starting point is 00:05:52 just two of the theater kids breaking the law and then crying tyranny when the law is enforced. In fact, take a look at the list that's now growing here on the number of Democrats who have theatrically placed themselves in the
Starting point is 00:06:08 way of law enforcement. You have Congresswoman La Monica McIver who on June 10th was indicted for allegedly interfering with immigration officers. She was arrested along with Ross Baraka, who outside that New Jersey detention facility interfered, physically interacted with officers. You can see the video of La Monica McIver, sumo belly bumping officers over and over and over again. From Red Rover to belly bumps,
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's not quite the coordination for illegal activity that Judge Hanna Dugan did in Milwaukee County when she helped illegal immigrants avoid detention, ushering them out of the courthouse, distracting ICE agents, and ushering them out, absconding them out the back door. Brad Lander, Alex Padilla, LaMonica McIver, Hannah Dugan, Ross Baraka. Democrats playing the role of martyr in order to get media attention that's what this is these are political stunts the entire conversation around illegal immigration is a political stunt not really even anymore playing upon empathy but playing on theatrics that's the view the view is nothing but theatrics so they thought they'd put some of that to a real actor you know a highly
Starting point is 00:07:41 paid actor. In fact, a movie star, you know, not just a performer like Sonny Hosten, but a real movie star in Arnold Schwarzenegger, also an immigrant, also the former governor of California, when they asked him how he feels about what's going on considering his status as an immigrant to America. Watch, listen. South, you are an immigrant. You're an immigrant in his country. Did you have a visceral reaction to what they're doing, what ICE is doing when you see the Well, I tell you, you said that the immigrant, I'm so proud and happy that I was embraced by the American people like that. I mean, imagine it came over here with the age of 21, with absolutely nothing, and then
Starting point is 00:08:32 to create a career like that. I mean, in no other country in the world, could you do that? it's incredible and it reminds me of that famous comedy bit by bill burr what a great man was Arnold Schwarzenegger you know imagine immigrate to another country get famous for lifting weights I lift weights nobody cares get famous for lifting weights against all odds become a movie star when you can barely speak the language and nobody can speak you yet get a massive blockbuster movie basically with a little person in Danny DeVito marry into that country's royalty maria Shriver, famous Kennedy, and then, to top it all off, run for governor of a state you cannot
Starting point is 00:09:13 pronounce, California. 30 straight years of nothing but net, yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger thought he could have sex with the maid and get away with it. Are you kidding? It's a layup, said Bill Burr, because his immigrant story is that of a great man. Agree, disagree, issue, policy, politics, party. He is a wonderful story of accomplishment, a great man in the United States. So he continued on the view. I was asked to do on July 4th a big speech, the keynote speech at Mount Vernon, that George Washington was made the rest, where he lived and all that,
Starting point is 00:09:56 to celebrate the 250th anniversary of America, the existence of America, and I would be doing the speech that they asked me because I'm an immigrant, and there will be 7,000 some people there and there will be people that will be sworn in and will become citizens that day. So it's really a great, great celebration. This is what this is all about, is to celebrate people becoming Americans
Starting point is 00:10:22 and coming to America. And at this point, all the D-List performers are the bobbing heads at the panel. That's great. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. will be Goldberg nodding along. They all seem to think he's with them. Here we go. Yes, we're persecuting the immigrant.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yes, now we're talking to a real immigrant who came to America and succeeded. And we don't really care about everything he has to say about the greatness of America. We can tell it's all leading up to. And yet here we are today persecuting illegal immigrants. They can tell this is where it's headed. Here we go. Let's do it. And then finally, he says this on the view. But the key thing also is at the same time
Starting point is 00:11:04 that we got to do things legal that is the important thing you know so you got to do things legal and those people that are doing illegal things in America and they're the foreigners they are not smart because when you come to America you're a guest
Starting point is 00:11:22 and you have to behave like a guest like when I go to someone's house and I'm a guest then they will do everything I can keep things clean and to make my bed and to do everything that is the right thing to do rather than committing a crime or being abusive or something like that so that doesn't really work in this country now the tone has changed
Starting point is 00:11:45 attempts to interrupt him the yeah yeahs aren't so soft the hmm's not so in agreement hmm and then Sonny Hosten reaches over and places her hand on Arnold Schwarzenegger's arm as though to stop him to interrupt him to get this thing back on track. It's so wonderful to see this implode on the D-List Performers of the View. But the D-List Performers of the View are the model these days for the elected representatives among Democrats. As they go out there and commit acts of theater
Starting point is 00:12:21 to get arrested for breaking the law, in fact, physically interfering with law enforcement, so that they can claim tyranny once the law is enforced, just a ridiculous idocracy of modern-day politics. That's the theater kids that today run the Democrat Party. Let's get into once again whether or not it is America first to intervene in Iran. I've read your feedback. I hear from you.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Let's bring that. And Guy Benson on next on Will Kane Country. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio, your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes iced coffee and delivery. Fox News Audio presents Unsolved with James Patterson.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Every crime tells the story. but some stories are left unfinished somebody knows real cases real people listen and follow now at foxtruecrime.com accusations of me being a warmonger accusations of me being anti-war all in one day's time here on will cane country streaming live at foxnews.com on the fox news youtube channel and the fox news facebook page hit subscribe if you would please at apple or on spotify I set a reminder on YouTube and on Facebook on our personal pages on each of those platforms for Wilcane country. Bobby Burak over at Outkick put together an interesting premise yesterday, an interesting opinion when it comes to Israel versus Iran. He wrote on X, as I told Kilmead this morning, I don't trust a single person talking about Israel, Iran.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Every single one in Washington, the media online, Hollywood, is some combination of compromised, uninformed, or scared. The conversation is divided into four groups. Group one, Israel is always right, no matter what. And if you dare question it, you are a dangerous anti-Semite. Group two, Israel is always wrong. And if you disagree, you are a joke blackmailed by Israeli intelligence. Group 3. Trump is always right. And if you don't agree, you are actually never MAGA and are a traitor paid by Qatar.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Group 4. Trump is a bloody dictator, fascist and racist, sexist, and xenophobic. Meanwhile, most Americans just want someone to fix the economy, get the government to stop wasting our money and someone to stop violent criminals. from shooting us in the backs, or shooting up our blocks. That's what was posted yesterday by Bobby Burak. Yesterday, as I laid out and asked the question, whether or not intervention militarily in Iran was actually America first, I said that the answer to that has to satisfy, in my mind, both of two questions.
Starting point is 00:15:46 One, how does it serve America, the people of America? How does it serve the United States? And two, is it worth the cost? Simple analysis that I believe helps us understand whether any foreign intervention is actually America first. It can't be, in my mind, the answer of how it helps Israel. It can only be how it helps America. And it currently, as it stands, it's a pretty low-cost investment.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Even if it is demanded offensively, we drop bombs on nuclear facilities or even facilitate a regime change in Iran with no troops on the ground and no nation building. And I have a great amount of humility about how worlds can spiral where they can go. and you have to have foresight and ask yourself what next. At current, I think the answer to those two questions is, yes, it is America first to intervene in Iran. That earned me accusations of both being anti-war and a warmonger, which may say I struck the balance just right or I am a poor communicator. But as tinfoil pat has pointed out today, you don't seem to fit very neatly into any of the four categories as described by Bobby Burrack. continue this conversation now with the host of the Guy Benson show at Fox News Radio, a Fox News
Starting point is 00:16:58 contributor. It is Guy Benson. What's up, Guy? What's up, Will? What do you think? What do you think? You think it's America first to militarily intervene in Iran? Yeah. So first, let me address the four categories that you laid out, or I guess Bobby laid out. I think there's more than four categories. I think that does not include everyone, myself very much included. And I think you just identified as well as someone who doesn't quite, you know, fit into the four box matrix that he presented. I am certainly not someone who says Donald Trump is always right, much to the chagrin of much of my own audience. And I hear from them from time to time when I say that I think he's wrong. And I'm not bashful about saying it.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I think my job is to tell the truth as I see it to give my opinion and not tell people exactly what they want to hear. So sometimes that involves criticizing anyone, including the president of the United States. I'm also not a Trump hater or one of these, you know, reflexive, he's a criminal, he's horrible, impeach, and I'm definitely not the resistance either. I think that Trump is often right, but not always. And when it comes to Israel, I think Israel is usually right, but not always. I think compared to that neighborhood and people in the region, I think Israel is by far our greatest allies sharing our values the most, doing a lot of our dirty work, frankly, which is what they're doing right now in Iran and have been doing for many years. They're great on intelligence. They sort of keep an eye on some very dangerous characters in that part of the world who want to kill us more than they want to even kill them.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I'm very, very strongly pro-Israel, but no one is above reproach, not Benjamin Netanyahu, not the Israeli government. And when they do something wrong, often they admit it, by the way, and apologize. But I'm not someone who's like, oh, it's Israel or no matter what all the time or you're an anti-Semite. So I don't quite buy into that four square. but I understand it's sort of useful as a framework for having these conversations. Then the America First question, look, I think that President Trump has asserted that he's the one who decides what counts as America first.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I know there are some people within the movement who say, well, no, it's actually not all up to one person. A lot of his supporters say, well, to some extent, he is the leader of the movement. So if he says this, we're inclined to follow in that direction, I happen to agree with him here. We're not talking about, I think it's a category error for people to say, well, it's war mongering to talk about this potential intervention and we're tired of these forever wars. The forever war in this case is being waged and has been waged by Iran. They have been killing our people, Americans, for decades, decades. I think that would qualify as a forever war. They have repeatedly
Starting point is 00:19:50 tried to kill Trump himself. They have active assassination plots against other American officials that they hate for various reasons. And so I think to say with the Israelis taking the lead, what they've been able to pull off militarily and especially with their intelligence to me is just a breathtaking triumph against their existential enemy that doesn't just say death to Israel and death to America. They mean it and they've taken steps in that direction. They said if those guys get a nuclear weapon, we are toast and we can't, we literally cannot let that happen and continue to exist as a Jewish state. So they take it immediately, extremely seriously, and they're doing almost all the heavy lifting. If the war mongering in this case is for the United States to come in
Starting point is 00:20:36 with a technology that only we have with a certain type of bomber and a certain type of bomb with total air superiority with the assistance of the Israelis who have taken over the skies of Iran, at this point with no resistance, because Iran can't anymore, if that means flying two sorties over Fordo in that mountain, that facility that we know exists and doing the bunker busters twice and then leaving, to me, that's not a war. It's an act of war. It is certainly a military intervention, but it is not this category of saying, oh, it's Iraq again. We're going to send tens of thousands of troops in to occupy the place and try to build a thriving democracy out of Iraq. No one is talking about that. No one supports that. Certainly Donald Trump does not
Starting point is 00:21:21 support that. And the last point I'll make is it kind of reminds me of Soleimani. The Soleimani hit during the first Trump administration. It was an act of war, who was a military intervention to take out someone extremely dangerous in the Iranian regime. Trump did it. He didn't apologize. And then he like dropped the mic and walked away and we didn't escalate into something else. I think that would be the model. If he makes the choice to bomb Fordo, he'd say, here are the four corners of what we're willing to do. We're going to do that in our interest because we have the technology and that's it. I think that's something that an awful lot of Americans would support and based on your criteria would check both of those boxes for America
Starting point is 00:21:58 First. Okay. I want to walk through a few of these elements and also play devil's advocate. First, America First is a prospect. It's a premise. It's a concept that did pre-exist Donald Trump. He said that he invented it, but it did pre-exist Donald Trump. That being said, I do think that America First, largely today, rests upon the decisions of Donald Trump. What I mean by that is it's not ideological, it doesn't have a coherent set of principles. It's rather pragmatic. And that pragmatism is grounded in making choices and making deals and running through analysis of the prism of whether or not we're making decisions that's best for America.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He was a democratically elected president whose entire political career seems to reflect he's earned the benefit of the doubt that that is how he actually goes about making decisions. He's not at capture of Lindsey Graham or neocons, nor do I think he is compromised by Israeli intelligence. Nor do I think it's clear now is the case that he's beholden to the more pacifist or isolationist wing of MAGA as well. He's simply a consequentialist. He's a pragmatist. He is a strategy-based man. And I do believe, therefore, he defines, appropriately so, America first.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I trust he'll make these decisions adhering to what we're asking for. think of our interests first so i want to set that little bit of sort of history and analysis behind us now i do want to ask you a couple of devil's advocacy questions first what is the population of iran 93 million uh famous now reference to a conversation taking place between tucker carlson and ted cruz which is up today at the tucker carlson network which you can watch and making its way virally across your social media stream but i do want to ask you a couple devil's advocacy questions. And I have to ask myself some consistency-based questions on this front guy.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Thomas Massey, I believe also AOC, have joined together to say, whoa, whoa, war is supposed to be an act of Congress. I don't think they are without merit. Are we then going to, in response, say, and play the game of what is war? like B-2 bombers dropping bunker busters just on two sorties isn't actually war like what is the deal we and I understand that's quaint now Congress declaring war it's been what 70 years I don't know how long it's been in the last action where we had a declaration of Congress but are we just going to resign that to the dustbin of history at this point requiring Congress to sign off on war yeah well I think
Starting point is 00:24:38 it's a more legitimate and consistent question or criticism from Massey than it is from the squad people who are conveniently signing up with him on this. They don't like Trump and they don't, they actually kind of like our enemies. I mean, let's just be clear. They do not want us taking any action against our enemies in the Middle East. I think some of them are highly sympathetic to some of those enemies actually. And they don't care at all about the Constitution or the constitutionality of presidential action. If it's some left-wing president trampling the constitution blatantly to expand the government or do left-wing things, they're all for it and don't care at all. So I'm not interested in them. Massey at least has some consistency there. I'm not a constitutional
Starting point is 00:25:20 scholar. I have read different perspectives on this. I'm pretty persuaded that the commander-in-chief has very broad latitude, especially for like surgical actions that are not a declaration of war against an entire foreign country where now we are like formally at war with them boots on the ground that sort of thing i think you know we've had presidents for a long time well well long time have not i do think it's a little bit academic i do think it's a little academic on like what is war let's put it this side well but it's not for the iranians i mean the minute the bombs start dropping they're not too concerned about what has been signed or what the definition of i'm sure it feels like war. Yeah, well, they've been waging war on us for decades, as I said. They've been killing as many
Starting point is 00:26:06 of us as they possibly can for decades. So the regime, I'm separating them, of course, out which you would hope would be persuasive for Congress, what you would hope would be persuasive of evidence for Congress and shouldn't be that hard. But you and I both know it probably wouldn't pass Congress. I don't know. I think if, personal, I'm not persuaded that a president has to run to Congress for permission for a bombing run, right? I think, I think if we're going to do a full war like we had in Iraq or Afghanistan where there were votes, right? We had, we had voted to go into Iraq with a much more controversial invasion without a direct tie to 9-11. I think if they put it up for a vote, just up or down, can we send the B-2 bombers to take out this facility, yes or no? I think that
Starting point is 00:26:57 would pass. I think Republicans would pass it. I think some Democrats would pass it. There'd be a coalition of no, mostly Democrats, some Republicans. I think it would pass. It's an interesting conversation for us to have. Again, I believe you're a lawyer. I'm not. I just, I have read national security and legal experts who I trust, who I respect would say, this is the type of thing that you would not need congressional approval for this type of action. That might be right. It might be wrong, but to a point that you made it's a conversation guy we should be having. I think even if it's to this level, let's know, let that fall to the dust should. I just don't think that that should be a calculation that is lost to the dustbin of history.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I just don't think it should be. And if there's a legal argument to your point, then let's hear it. And I'm willing and I'm open-minded to hear that. Let's take a quick break. In just a moment, we'll be back. Following Fox's initial donation to the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, our generous viewers have answered the call. action across all Fox platforms and have helped raise $6.5 million.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Visit go dot Fox forward slash TX flood relief to support relief and rebuilding efforts. Listen to the all new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground, in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his all-star panel and much more. Available now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back. Okay, one more piece of devil's advocacy. You know for my, for my introduction, that I believe.
Starting point is 00:28:24 that the action supports, the limited action, supports the analysis of America first. But I will tell you, Guy, I have a ton of humility. I might have more than you on this in that. And if I'm being an open book on this, do I have suspicions that the Iranian population is different than the Afghan population and the Iraq population? Yes, of course I do. Do I think there, do I have a suspicion the Iranian population is not just willing, but interested in a different form of government?
Starting point is 00:28:52 yeah i am i'm inclined to believe that to be the case but i have a great amount of humility because i think we are talking we are talking about regime change that's what we're talking about and i really don't have a lot of tolerance for minutiae of conversations that acts like we're not we are the Israelis do and that's what if the goal is to denuclearize iran really the prospect of the iatola coming back because they don't trust him and he said he wants it and all these things he's got to go that's the unwritten conversation underwritten conversation is So my point, though, is humility on what comes next. It may, and it's more than may, probably be a lot better than what we have now.
Starting point is 00:29:32 But let's be a little careful after the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria. So just real quick, one other thing on the going to Congress and the authorization, because I want to make this point. I think it is an important conversation to have. The Constitution matters. I also think based, so does precedent. And we've now had how many presidents consecutively who have not had to go to Congress when they go off and drop bombs? You might say they should have, but they didn't. And I just don't know, do we need to now go back to the drawing board for Donald Trump specifically?
Starting point is 00:30:05 All these other presidents can do it without congressional approval, but Trump, like we need to uproot more norms yet again at the expense of President Trump. I don't necessarily agree with that, although I agree with your underlying point. It should always be a question about whether there's constitutional authorizations do anything. in government, especially big things like dropping bombs on a foreign land, even if it's fully justified. In terms of what comes next humility, I'd make two points. One less direct, one more direct to what you've asked. The first one is, I think what a lot of people liked about Trump, and he campaigned on this, was he said, in my first term, no new wars. We didn't get America entangled in any sort of brand new war. And that resonated with a lot of people, and they liked it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I would point out, though, it's important to remember, he took out Syrian assets, he took out Soleimani, he took out ISIS in a major way. We did a lot of military stuff under Donald Trump in the first term, I think all of which benefited the United States of America, and none of which spiraled into a wider war with boots on the ground. He has, I think, an ability to draw a line in the sand and say, this is what benefits us, and we're not going further than that. So I think that builds his credibility on this question for people who are worried that it might spiral, spiral. I think he is aware of that and his own track record. No one, when he said, I didn't start any new wars in the first term, no one's like, you're a liar because of all these examples.
Starting point is 00:31:34 They thought back to the examples, approved of what he did, and also acknowledged it was not starting a new war. I think that's what we're looking at here. I think that's an important point to make. And then finally, on this humility point, yes, I think anyone who's lived and a post-9-11 experience, or let me, go back to Vietnam, right? A lot of humility about not being absolutely sure what's going to happen is in order. I think a lot of the people, by the way, who have been dead set against any attacks on Iran, including what Israel has already achieved, they made all sorts of predictions very confidently about the parade of disasters that would ensue if this happened.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And at least so far, every single one of them has been wrong. All of them have been wrong. Right. So I think there's humility in both directions required here, not just the warmonger or the pacifist. A lot of people can guess what might happen. No one knows for sure. I do think that Iran's population, the Persians are much more pro-Western than a lot of places in the Middle East. There's a long history to support that. Now, could things have changed, you know, over since 1979 and the population been totally indoctrinated? Sure. Of course, we know a lot of the population despises that regime. So you're right. I do think that it's there to ask the question, what would come next? And I know you have a heart out in just a few moments. I want to run one more topic by you, which we can do quickly. But I just want to say this because you've brought it up a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You've referenced the Tucker Carlson, Ted Cruz conversation, which I have not seen in its entirety. Only once. But I did see a clip of Ted Cruz. And I bring this up because I want to tie a button on this, because to me, I mean this. It's like all that matters to me is does it serve the interest of America? Ted Cruz makes a biblical argument. We did see an argument made by Mike Huckabee. There was some text release the other day of sending Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:33:23 A biblical argument for the support of Israel. And I know there's a lot of people listening that believe this to be the case as well. And there's Benjamin Netanyahu out there saying, I understand America first. I don't understand America dead. Today, Tel Aviv, tomorrow, New York. These, to me, are not the appeals that resonate in making a decision that serves America. first. I don't need to be scared into action. And I don't really, in this case, believe it should be something that is informed by someone's interpretation of the Bible. For me, this is cold,
Starting point is 00:33:56 this is strategic, this is self-interested. It is, hey, I'm the American taxpayer. I pay money to my government. I elect representatives to represent the interest of Americans. And I think you can walk and chew gum at the same time so you can focus on the border in crime and fentanyl and also have a foreign policy. But I always want to know that you have my interests in mind. Not Israel's, not Qatar's, not Washington D.C.'s, not anyone's, but that of the American people. Yeah. And so I think actually a lot of the time Israel's interests are our interests because of the amount of intelligence and sort of nasty, dirty work that we don't want to do. We don't want boots on the ground. We've got pretty low tolerance for that. Israel's willing to do that type of work.
Starting point is 00:34:43 and by the way, there's also hundreds of thousands of Americans who live in Israel. So to point that out, I also think just broadly speaking, a regime that chants on a daily basis death to America, it's almost like the animating chant of their entire regime to prevent that regime from getting nuclear weapons and from continuing to develop a long-range missile program, that seems to be, at least to me, the textbook definition of what is in the interest of the United States of America. Yeah. If the United States has the ability with very high probability of success and low probability for any casualties at all in this limited mission over the skies of Iran, if we're able to take out their nuclear program and basically put an end to their military designs in one fell swoop, that seems like America first American interest to a T. Some people might disagree, but that's my read on it. Okay, I want to be respectful of your time. I would love to play you one piece of sound and get your reaction. I think you're the perfect person to listen to this. Terry Moran, I believe, on the bulwark
Starting point is 00:35:46 podcast. He's a former ABC News reporter fired with the bulwark. My own feeling is you don't sacrifice your citizenship as journalism, and your job is not to be objective. There is no Mount Olympus of objectivity where a Mandarin class of wise people have no feelings about their society. We're all in this together. Would you have to be? is fair and accurate. And I would refer to the interview with the president that I did or a lot of my work. And I would also say that this, while very hot, is an observation, a description that is accurate and true. Here's my hot take, guy.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I agree with Terry Moran. I don't think there is an amount of Olympus of apostles that sit atop and have achieved and demand of others' objectivity. I actually agree with this. I just disagree when he says he is somehow an arbiter of truth and fairness. I don't think he is that. But at least I know what he thinks. My job is not to pretend to my audience that I am objective. It is to strive for accuracy and truth and to be honest with my audience.
Starting point is 00:36:55 What do you think, Guy? Well, the thing is they pretend to be objective. That's the problem. Right? And so when this all happened, I was on outnumbered on the news channel that day when it all went down. And I said, I actually really love the fact. and I hope I hope journalists continue to post their true feelings on social media because it gives us a window into knowing exactly who they are and what they think, right? They have this whole air of superiority and how deeply objective they are and they're just down the line journalists doing their job.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And then when they spout off in these clearly partisan screeds on social media, it's like, well, we can see you, we can read what you're saying. And then when you have, you know, your nice hair and your nice suit on ABC News, pretending like you're something else, we know that that, is some sort of a facade. We know what you actually think. I think it's actually honest for them to come out. And I would expect it more. If they're like, hello, everyone, I'm a card-carrying liberal Democrat. I agree with the Democrats. I vote for the Democrats. I hate Donald Trump. I hate Stephen Miller. I support illegal immigration, whatever the list might be. Because I know John Harwood has a new piece, the same exact thing. And he's one of the biggest left-wing hacks out there, who is a mainstream journalist for a long time. If they just came out and said, yeah, I'm on
Starting point is 00:38:08 team blue and you can take my reporting and analysis, you know, with that grain of salt, that's what you and I do. I think, I think there's like, there's transparency there. I prefer that to the supercilious condescension of claimed objectivity and neutrality when in fact there are a bunch of, you know, hatchet men partisans. Just tell us the truth about who you are and what you believe and let the chips fall, I think that's a lot better than the model that a lot of them are trying to pretend to be a part of. Totally agree. For more of that great analysis, check him out at the Guy Benson's show, 3 to 6 Eastern Time at Fox News Radio. Guy, always good to talk to you. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. See you.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Let's head over to the Wallisha, where John Sanders said, Iran can't do anything. They might as well give up. And then Baya Batat on YouTube says, why? Iran making it worse for themselves if they are weak. I think it's existential for the Mullahs at this point. So it's either Bamous, get on an airplane and head for Moscow, or fight to the death. Mark Stevens said in regards to Democrats, narcissistic abuse, then play the victim when you object. Pretty good analysis of what's going on with the theater kids. And then 13th Apostle says, let's get Will Kane as the secretary of common sense. Maybe Trump can put this. position in. I like it. Secretary of Common Sense. Is Will Smith a movie star? When was he a
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Starting point is 00:41:03 happened with kately clark man it's raising some serious questions about what that league is all about, the WNBA, whether or not they're interested in stars, because they have one, one. One could argue, she is an A-level star, and they don't even have B and C-level stars. From A, it drops to D. She is the entire league, and they allow things like this to happen last night against the Connecticut Sun. Watch when Katelyn Clark is trying to create some space.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It looked like she just got hit in the eye there. Oh, oh, and Marina Mabry. I missed that one, Edona. Oh, I miss that one, too. Damn, man. Caitlin Clark is poked in the eye, first of all. One could argue, hey, fouls happened, things like that happened, right? At that point, you could say aggressive defense, whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:03 She's poked in the eye. she pulls up she lets go with the ball she grabs her eye but the same girl that pokes her in the eye then bows up to her and puts her chest in her face like it wasn't just a hard foul accident like there's nothing katelyn clark has done in response at this point so what's the point in bone up into her face and the immediately i don't think kately's even extended her arm to push her away yet two other connecticut son come running at katelyn clark now she's surrounded by three of opposing players and one of them on the run-up comes up and sort of bodies her
Starting point is 00:42:35 sending Caitlin Clark to the ground. Not for nothing, but Caitlin did then drill a three in their face towards the end of the game and show them once again why she's an A-level star. They're only A-level star. But I believe in the whole interaction,
Starting point is 00:42:53 no flagrant foul, right? In fact, only a foul on Caitlin? Is that what the outcome on that was? There were three, I think. Flagrants. Free fouls? And she got one of them. And she got one of them.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Thank you for the correction on my fake news. There's like a moratorium on just attacking her from every other team. It's crazy. You mean there should be a moratorium? Sorry, sorry, moratorium. There's like a memo. Dan, what does moratorium mean? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:43:22 He knows. He knows what means. No, it means not to do something. Yes. I meant memo. And there's, exactly. but there should be a memo going around to all these teams to basically just attack her as much as you can and go against her.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Like they're clearly just trying to go to her. Yeah, I mean, it certainly seems like that. It doesn't matter who she's playing. It's like maybe there is, maybe the coaching is, hey, if you're physical with Caitlin Clark, it's one of the only ways to stop her. So, like, they're all encouraged to be really physically aggressive, but it's hard not to look at this and think there's animus towards her.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Hey, do you think just being contrarian for a moment, just checking my thoughts, okay? You think there's a, I wonder what, you know how the NBA does polling on most overrated, most underrated, most disliked players in the league, all that? I've never seen anything like that in the WNBA. Is she incredibly disliked? Like, as a person, I wonder, is she disliked? Is she a trash talker? is she somebody that like
Starting point is 00:44:30 She'll let you know Other girls hate Not because of her fame or attention But just because of the way she plays She'll let you know When she drains a three She has a little attitude about it No more than anyone else
Starting point is 00:44:42 I just wonder what's going on Why so much of this Attitude and treatment toward her It's it's and look Any other league would put an end to it We always talk about star treatment And it kind of infuriates us you know, uh, ruffing the passer on Tom Brady or whoever becomes, oh, you touched him.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We, Patrick Mahomes, we get upset about that. But the league is protecting their stars because they're moneymakers, right? I mean, you got to protect W. You got to protect Caitlin Clark. She is the WNBA. And the league itself, even if she's disliked, just playing devil's advocate or contrarian thought there, even if she is, it doesn't matter. The league has got to put this down. They've got to stop this. But isn't the league...
Starting point is 00:45:29 Oh, they don't have a league. Isn't the league more the players in the WMBA than the NBA? I feel like the players control the league a little more in the narrative in the WMBA. I don't know. Could you even name the commissioner? Can you name the commissioner of the WNBA? No. Can we name the commissioner of every men's...
Starting point is 00:45:49 Can we name NFL NBA Major League Baseball and NHL? We can't, right? Don't look. Get off your computer. We can do that, right? Let's do it really quickly. Patrick, Commissioner of Major League Baseball. Rob Bancred, because I hate him.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I know that one, easy. Okay. Yes. Ready? I'll take NBA Adam Silver. We all know NFL. Hey, I get the hard one. And you get the hard one.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, but I could do it. I don't know. He's been the commissioner for forever. I don't know it off the top of my head. Really? Okay, I'll give you back to NFL since we didn't say it out loud. Go ahead and say you in the NFL since we didn't say it out loud. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Great job, yeah. I mean, even you should, we should all know. It's Gary Bettman, right, in the NHL? That's right, that's right. That's right. Former NBA executive. Commissioner. Out of the four, it's my least watched.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Of the WNBA. That's a shame. Speaking of name recognition. Hockey's great. Let's take that moment and give it to Patrick. Come on, Dan. Let's give it to Patrick. Stanley Cup champion, Florida Panthers, back to back.
Starting point is 00:46:55 He took down once again the Edmonton Oilers, the star-laden Edmonton Oilers. In Dallas, we just don't know how we can get over that hump. Seems to be no problem for you guys in Florida. Two years in a row, six games, five to one Stanley Cup, back home in the, oh-so, hockey confines of South Florida. I hate monopolies. We've literally, I mean, the state of Florida is one.
Starting point is 00:47:25 five of the last eight Stanley Cups. Canada still hasn't won a cup since 1993. It's a good time to be alive. What you mean, eh? It's great. Have you seen Paul Bissonet, I think it's Paul Bissonette, right? The NHL commentator on T&T saying
Starting point is 00:47:41 that Florida and Texas have an unfair advantage in hockey because no state income tax. And he thinks that maybe the league should think about doing something like taxing those teams that are there or changing their salary cap. It's not fair that there's no state income. tax in Florida and Texas and, uh, I mean, maybe move, dude, you know, maybe, I don't even think
Starting point is 00:48:04 that many players make decisions based upon that. I've been waiting for that in the NBA, you know, somebody do the income tax analysis in Texas and come to the MAVs. I don't know that they do. I don't know if they do in hockey or not, but hey, man, sorry. That's the way the cookie crumbles. If you want to live in New Jersey, live in New Jersey, but be prepared to stay pay income tax an hl commissioner gary betman was on with with him and he pooped the idea he he said exactly what you said it's like people go there for you know a bunch of reasons it is a one factor of many factors so it doesn't it just doesn't make any sense and it and it didn't play a role in the first 20 years of florid expansion in hockey right like we sucked for years
Starting point is 00:48:51 So, I don't know. Now you're a dynasty. Once again, congratulations. Florida Panthers, tinfoil Pat, Stanley Cup champion. Speaking again of name recognition, in 2012, sports columnist, personality, podcaster, entrepreneur, Bill Simmons wrote a column at Grantland, which was a fascinating website,
Starting point is 00:49:21 of sports journalism and he wrote a column that all of us remember independently we all read it we all found it fascinating and it was what happened to the movie star and his analysis largely focused around will smith he argued that will smith had reverse engineered what it meant to be a movie star that the formula was box office it wasn't necessarily prestige It wasn't awards, it was picking the right roles, and being in the right movies that sold seats that were box office hits. And at that time, he was right, right? Like, if Will Smith was in a movie, it was a hit. Now, was it a hit because Will Smith was in the movie or because he was picking movies that would be hits?
Starting point is 00:50:17 But as far as movie stars, judged by the analysis, are they in? in big hits, it really was only Will Smith. He pointed to Matt Damon, he pointed to Brad Pitt. They had stinkers. They had movies that didn't make money. And they weren't just like prestige pieces, meaning they took some roles for reasons that are their reasons, but not designed and did not result in big box office hits. So if a studio was looking for an actor and they were going to pay that actor at that time, what?
Starting point is 00:50:47 $20 million for the role? Yep. and the calculus was this is going to be a blockbuster. You went with Will Smith. Now, there's two interesting things that have happened since that time. What happened to Will Smith and what happened to the movie star? Let's take those independently. Patrick, you're the one that's interested in what happened to Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Sure. I mean, like, if you look at Will Smith, he was a massive star in the 90s coming off the freshmen of Bel Air. He then rolls it into, you know, movie fame with Independence Day, Men in Black, you know. I mean, these are these are summer blockbuster movies that, you know, were cornerstones for the industry. But then he was talking about some of the roles he passed up recently or in the past. He was talking about this recently. And some of those roles were inception, the Matrix. You know, we know that he did wild, wild, wild.
Starting point is 00:51:47 West, which was a dud at the time. And he also did, he also passed up Django Unchained. And it's like those, those roles could have kept him in that conversation for even longer. I mean, like, I think we still think of him as a movie star, but I think that we've seen his star kind of, you know, diminished a little bit. The slap hurt him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 But that's fairly recent. And you could argue that his decline was before the slap. But the slap, specifically the Oscar slap of Chris Rock, undercut the image that he had created, which was safe. Everybody likes Will Smith. Likeable, non-controversial, and the slap totally destroyed that brand. But the calculus of Will Smith is interesting as well, like what he chose to be in. And he did just start missing on the, I think Bill Simmons' analysis was right.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Will Smith was really smart at looking at role offers and going, is this a hit? Is this going to work? Does this have mass appeal? And he made the same mistake that, as you point out, Patrick, a lot of guys made. With that, he missed on some movies that were more complicated, like Inception. I can imagine getting the script for Inception and being like, I don't get it. Literally. By the way, there's others, right?
Starting point is 00:53:07 Like, Sean Connery passed on Lord of the Rings because he didn't get it. Right? It was too tough. Um, Bert Reynolds passed on, was it Han Solo? Did he pass on Han Solo or Star Wars? Again, because it was like out there. It was edgy at the time in terms of like, this doesn't sort of fit the formula. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And so guys, honestly, they became risk-verse. I think that's what you're looking at. And Will Smith hadn't, I mean, I can't think. Have you guys seen the way that Will Smith is in the news today? is he's got new music out. Have you guys seen that? Yeah. And independent of this conversation, I saw it.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah, man, but I saw it. And do you know what I thought? Oh, this song is designed, like, from start to finish, to be something he hopes people sings in clubs. Like, that's what I heard. Runways. It's got a refrain that you can almost hear people on the dance floor. I can't remember what the refrain is over and over,
Starting point is 00:54:08 but he keeps saying things that you can almost see, like, oh, he envisions people on the dance floor going bananas over this, sing it. Not like I'm creating great music, but I'm creating something designed to be the movie equivalent or the music equivalent of a blockbuster. It's an algorithm boost.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I kind of think it is. It's all algorithm. Formulating an algorithm. And that brings us to this, Dan, what happened to the movie star? And you're the one that's been looking into that because, honestly, it's not just Will Smith at this point. Now, I'm old.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I'm willing to admit this is, I think, in fact, fact, let's find out if it's because I'm old. You got two a day's, you got tinfoil. Dan, you've got somebody in studio with you as well. So let's broaden our small focus group here. If I see Brad Pitt in something on Netflix or Prime or anything, I'm probably going to watch it. Like, I'm interested.
Starting point is 00:55:06 And I've got actors that I have said to myself, they're magnetic, they're charming, they make pretty good choices. I'm interested. Tom Hardy is one of those for me. And there's quite a few, actually. Christian Bale's probably up there. Denzel Washington is up there. If they're in it, I am probably going to watch it. Now, that's not everything, because like I didn't watch the Brad Pitt George Clooney assassin movie. Is it two wolves or wolves or something like that? Really good. You may not even know. It's really good, Dan? Yeah, I liked it. Oh, really? Worth of a watch. Okay, well, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's not an Oscar winner, but it's good. It's cracking for me. I don't see everything these guys are in, but they still have pull for me. But what we're, so first, let's decide on my old. Do you guys have that same thing? If you see those guys are a different guy, you're much, much, much more apt to watch. Yeah, that's Leo DiCaprio for me. If I see a minute, I'm going to watch it no matter what.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He's on my list. Yep. Yeah. Absolutely. Tinfoil. yeah i mean i you know i'm that way with uh like i'll find an actor um like you know like i go through spurts so like mel gipson um's one and then uh you know recently west anderson films have come back on hulu so i'm going back through those because a lot of those actors i like um
Starting point is 00:56:32 seeing over and over again so you know owen wilson have you seen the one with benicia del torro the new one not yet i don't know i'm curious about that but yeah okay Tom Cruise is one Tom Cruise also see Tom Cruise isn't on my list to be honest he's the only star left
Starting point is 00:56:51 but I don't like I'm not into mission impossible like I was into the first one or two but then there's so many I'm not gonna see a ball and you call yourself a man so but the point is then the algorithm is
Starting point is 00:57:07 overtaken movie starting for most people it doesn't matter the argument is the star doesn't matter. It's bright. In the world of streaming, it is the formula, Dan. Yeah, it's the formula.
Starting point is 00:57:19 They just, it's all AI-IP-based. It's like the Harry Potter's, the Marvel movies, all those things outweigh anything an actor can do. Plus, like, all the streaming, different streaming services, an actor gets lost in the shuffle and all these things. There's no blockbuster movie theater movies anymore, at least not that much.
Starting point is 00:57:42 there are some, but that made a star, seeing someone on a billboard, going to a movie theater, knowing that they're going to, you're seeing them. When you're streaming it at home, you're watching so much content that you could be watching a Mission Impossible brand new movie with Tom Cruise and then go to some really nice TV show that you'll like better and you'll forget all about Tom Cruise. So it just muddies it. You know, Lindy Man also kind of talks about this, like the end of new star creation. happened around 08
Starting point is 00:58:14 and it was like with streaming and iPhones and things like that you kind of see everything shift from stars to franchises and it's the same in sports too and they create fake stars too yeah Timothy Chalomey
Starting point is 00:58:28 to me is a fake star you know what's interesting about Timothy Chalemay really quickly I just started I couldn't finish it it was too long last night but the Bob Dylan movie a complete unknown pretty good Timothy Chalemay is a
Starting point is 00:58:42 really good actor. I don't know how much that's fake or not, to your point. I don't know that means he's a movie star. I'm not saying he's a movie star, but he is a good actor. That I'm interested. That movie's pretty interesting, the complete unknown. But you were about to say it's the same in sports, tinfoil, and I think that's interesting. Like, so what are we talking about? Like, look at the thunder or look at the pacer, for that matter. And it's not driven by a single big time star, but a formula of the NBA is different so like the NFL
Starting point is 00:59:15 is based on the shield and it's based on the teams and you follow your team like you're a Cowboys fan if they got rid of DAC right you're still you know the NBA though is star driven and that's why the NBA has had problems
Starting point is 00:59:28 because it's harder to create stars so if you're not able to replace like LeBron's getting older you can't replace LeBron then you don't have those franchises available. What about baseball? Baseball?
Starting point is 00:59:42 I think baseball is more like the NFL. Yeah. Yeah. Most things are. Yeah. You're talking about from entertainment. I thought you're talking about from a winning perspective, like on the court, but you're talking about from ratings and seats perspective.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And you're right. Yeah. Maybe I don't, the NBA made a mistake in leaning in. I think they made a mistake. They're either going to have to figure out how to develop their own stars in this current environment, which, by the way, in everything. it's hard to develop stars in my business right will anybody ever again be as big as bill o'Reilly was you know it's a legitimate question and the answer is probably no right like um it's all smaller
Starting point is 01:00:26 so it's and i guess that's a product fractured attention spans in a in a plethora of options same as in sports so the nba might have made a miscalculation in not trying to build up that franchise model. And the miscalculation was leaning into social media, leaning into the personalities of it all. We've had that conversation before. You can't, you know, losing Jordan was devastating, but luckily you had LeBron.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Losing LeBron will be devastating. Who will you replace him with? In my book, it's not going to be Anthony Edwards. It's not Nicola Yolkich. It's not Janus. It's probably not Luca. And we have said on this program before, their best hope is it's Cooper flag.
Starting point is 01:01:09 But that being said, what a better model with the NFL, where we root for laundry, you know, doesn't matter who's on the field or who's playing. It matters a little bit, but it doesn't matter the same extent. And so instead of leaning into the social media, individual, personal soap opera, I remember when I was ESPN, everybody loved the tweet fights between NBA stars and, you know, the late-night recruiting sessions for the Rockets and the Clippers. And man, they should have spent that time building up, if you live in Miami, you're a heat fan, not a Chris Bosch or LeBron fan. And if you live in Cleveland, you're a Cleveland fan and on and on.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like, that's the model that is sustainable in a world where it's much more difficult to ever find another star. I was a kid from Connecticut that was a Chicago Bulls fan in the 90s just because of Jordan. Once he was gone, I wasn't a Bulls fan anymore. Sure. Which left me with no NBA identity. but that's fine. I never thought I liked Brad Marchand, you know, with the Bruins. And then he gets traded, and then you're a huge fan of him, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:17 It's like, because you love the laundry, you know? I did. That's what it is. It changes things. I did, if we want. I put together a little list of actors compared to athlete equivalence now, if you want to go through that at all. So, like, the LeBron James of acting right now would be Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Last of a Dying Breed, still dominant. Hmm. Yes. Leo DiCaprio is Patrick Mahomes. He's selective, elite, and performed at the highest level when it matters. Do we agree on that one? Okay. Leo Mahomes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 He has lost two Super Bowls. Yeah. It's fine. Wow. Leo's a stud who he's on the list. He makes great movies. He's a great actor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Has an Oscar. Zendaya is Caitlin Clark. Genzi superstar. She's a great actress. People love her. I don't see it I don't see it but that's fine
Starting point is 01:03:11 to be determined how about Margot Robbie as Caitlin Clark Margo Robbie is on this list as Simone Biles Simone Biles known for excellence Margo Robbie has carried a movie
Starting point is 01:03:23 a huge blockbuster hit in Barbie yeah like has Zendaya ever carried a movie I know she's been in Dune and some big ones but they're not Zendaya vehicles show
Starting point is 01:03:35 euphoria she carried Barbie was Margo Robbie. Yeah, that's true. Timothy Chalemay is on this list. Let's see if you agree with this one. He's Joe Burrow. I would say Timothy Chalemay is more like, who's a guy that had an awesome rookie year?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Jaden Daniels. He's Jaden Daniels. Like, let's see it play out for a little bit. Okay. Because Timothy Chalemay is a little more, has a little more success in that area. but he's green. I mean, he's still green.
Starting point is 01:04:10 That's true. I respect that Timothy Chalmay says he still wants to live in that era of, what did he say in his famous speech? Like, I want to be great, like De Niro, and he rattled off some guys. I can't remember who he rattled off, but let's see if he can do it. I like this comparison. Ben Affleck is Dak Prescott. Strong, steady, criticized unfairly, but keep showing up.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And by the way, might be on that list if he's in it look the town Argo yeah these are bangers that you're going to want to see he's great even uh oh what the other have you did you guys ever see triple front at the Indian triple frontier did you ever see it was like a Netflix movie that came out during the pandemic yeah heist movie yeah the accountant the accountant too was right was great that just came out I did not like accountant too really did not like it was awesome no it was too emotional for you that's why
Starting point is 01:05:06 I think Affleck should be insulted. By Dak Prescott comparison? Yes, I mean, that's like, he's had bangers. What does Dak done and fills it out in the playoffs? Ouch. Ouch. I'm going to tell you something. I still believe this.
Starting point is 01:05:23 One day, it's going to be glorious. There will be a glorious day. I think Dak's going to win at a level. I can't say a Super Bowl. I would love to see it. It's going to be a day. I do think it's my long term. term dunk. Like, it's the day I get to dunk. After all these years of abuse, there will be a day
Starting point is 01:05:43 when DAC breaks through. And I'm not saying he breaks through and he's five years the best quarterback in the league. But I do think there will be a moment. Who will it be? Who's done this? Because we can't say that he's Elway, you know, in aFC championship game. Joe Flacko. You guys are jerks. Brad Johnson. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think who could it be that it has toiled at good, not great, or very good, very good, not. Who is toiled in that five to seven range of his profession
Starting point is 01:06:24 and everybody doubted him and he couldn't get over the hump and in one glorious day he did at one point in this group? Who is that guy? Seriously. Tony Romo is that guy, but he never did. Yeah. He never did. would have, yeah, yeah, it would have been that guy.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I think Dak is going to have that day. It's like a pattern. I do have... Rima was that guy, Dak was that guy. Wow. I do have one for a Will Smith comparison, post-SLAPP comparison. Deshawn Watson. Oh, it's a little rough on Will Smith.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Is that AI generated? Did you ask AI to compare sports stars to movie stars? Yeah, Ryan. Jake Gyllenhauls Jimmy Butler Ryan Gosling Jalen Hertz Keanu Reeves Steph Curry because of John Wick franchise Those are getting weaker
Starting point is 01:07:17 How's Ryan Gosling Jalen Hertz? I like Ryan Gosling. Is he won it all in some way? I mean Dylan Hertz is his Super Bowl champion Ryan Gosling is the full package Are you kidding me? He's a huge star Is he your biggest man crush?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, I want to be him. Are you kidding me? He's talented? He can see. sing. The right on life. Married I love him. He married. I know what I know what I'm forgive me.
Starting point is 01:07:42 He has won at all. Yes. He married Eva Mende. That's it. That's his Super Bowl. That's it. Yes. No movie, no nothing.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I forgot about Ryan Gosling's great achievement. And it is that. Robert Downey Jr. Aaron Rogers. That's a good comparison. Hmm. Got to mold that over in my head a little bit. As do you.
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