Will Cain Country - Democrats’ Shutdown Hypocrisy EXPOSED (ft. Bridget Phetasy and Ethan Penner)

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Story 1: In another gripping ‘Quick Takes’ segment, Will and The Crew dive into the government shutdown, breaking down why the Democratic funding plan wasn’t as apolitical as some would have you believe. They also look at the Left’s reaction to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth’s announcement on new military standards, the epidemic of ‘performative males,’ and a UK man who was arrested in his living room after posting anti-Hamas content online.   Story 2: Comedian and Host of ‘Dumpster Fire,’ Bridget Phetasy joins to discuss the swathe of western comedians going on a comedy tour to Saudi Arabia, many of whom have previously criticized the accumulation of wealth by western billionaires. Is accepting money from trillionaire oil royals hypocritical, or is it simply par for the course for your average comic? Bridget and Will break it down before discussing the fading role of network television in the internet era.   Story 3: Independent California Gubernatorial Candidate, Ethan Penner joins to discuss his campaign. Penner explains why he chose to run despite not being a career politician, goes over his plan to overhaul the Golden State’s taxes, and takes a look what led to the failure of other major cities, states, and countries.   Then, in ‘Final Takes,’ Will and The Crew discuss how various generations spend their time when sitting in the car and share their own personal ‘car menus.’     Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country! ⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠@WillCain  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, performative males and the ladies very, very upset with the Secretary of War. Dems used to be very against a government shutdown and a man arrested out of his living room for a post on X. with the most electric man in television tinfoil pack. Two, comedians headed to Saudi Arabia. Taking that sweet, sweet oil money to tell jokes. Is that hypocritical when they're afraid of the orange man? With comedian, Bridget Fetasy. Three, Gen X, Millennial, Gen Z, what do you do in the car?

It is Wilcane Country on this Wednesday. Big show for you today. Are you Gen X? Are you millennial? Are you Gen Z? Well, it might be defined by exactly what you do when you're alone in your car. No, not like that. Quit thinking dirty.

What do you listen to in your car? What is your generation? But we've got a series of quick takes as everyone is freaking out about the Secretary of War. Let's get into it all with story number one. Quick takes taking us through the news. The big stories through the day is the most exciting man in television, the dawn of Quick Takes, the maestro of the mic, the most electric man in television that always knows how to toss to a piece of sound.

It is tinfoil pat. That's right, Will. I hope you had an okay time getting into the studio today. things are crazy because the government has shut down it is shut down shut it down so right now shut it down shut it down the Democrats have followed through and they're not working with the GOP now this comes at a time where Democrats have been caught flip-flopping on this issue and here are some some sound from you know the past where you know they said something completely know which clip you're talking about you know which one it is not normal to shut down the government

when we don't get what we want if the government shuts down it will be average americans who suffer most a government shutdown means seniors who rely on social security could be thrown into chaos there's much more where that came from but that was all he clipped so it's uh you know Well, you know, I'm tempted right before we went on air. Tinfoil Pat said, I need a new contract. This is not in my job description. And sometimes I think like a 20-year-old horse all swayed back and fragile hip-ed out in the field. If I just put the spurs to his hindquarters, I'll get him going.

I'll call him the most exciting man in television. I'll tweak him, I'll insult him, I'll get this horse to run. I can maybe ride this horse across the finish line. And I mean, I'm a man of hope and optimism, clearly, because you stumbled not only out of the gates, but down to the finish line. The tossing two sound, the piece of sound, the coming out of the sound, it's an unfolded lawn chair. It is a wonky piece of golf equipment. It's broken from the shaft and the head. It's not smooth.

It does not hit the ball down the fairway. It is electric. Swing and a miss. It just is what it is. Well, that's a hell of a contract negotiation for the new talent. That is tinfoil pat. Nothing like the talent of Democrats. They sound much like they have or much different

they have in the past. Government shutdowns are totally unacceptable. Today, they won't accept responsibility for a government shutdown. Instead, they blame it on Republicans. Republicans are saying the Democrats are shutting down the government to deprive or to ensure that health care is extended to illegal immigrants. The talking point across MSNBC and from the United States Senate is that is a lie, a complete lie. Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said it is a complete lie that we want to give insurance. to illegal immigrants. We will not give insurance, not one single penny to illegal immigrants. The word game being played by Democrats is the word insurance. The way that it works is that

Obamacare subsidies ensure that hospitals are reimbursed for care to illegal immigrants. They always insert another word that is part of the word games. Emergency care. If an illegal immigrant walks into an emergency room, they will receive care. That hospital will receive refunds for that care from the federal government. Of course, the word games underlie the reality. There are no legal immigrants getting Medicare or Medicaid. They are not getting insurance. No one cares about insurance. They care about treatment and cost. They are certainly getting treatment and it certainly costs. Are they only going in for life-saving emergency treatments? Have you ever been to an emergency room? Do you know what it looks like? It is not people, simply with gunshot

wounds. It is not people, simply suffering from a heart attack. It is people treating it. like their clinic. People lined up in emergency rooms getting whatever care they need, and that then is billed to the federal government. Reimbursed to hospitals, that means your taxpayer dollars are going to fund the health care of illegal immigrants. That's the truth beyond the word gains. So Democrats want to protect that hospital subsidy, that federal government taxpayer subsidy to illegal immigrants, and for that, they're willing to do something they said they would never do in the past, and that is shut down the government. Let me put the spurs to this old mule and see if I can get her to ride.

Once again, Tinfoil Pat. No, we need it for that, okay? Because we have the left going on the defense, I guess, trying to smear our good friend, the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. They seem to be confused or projecting his speech yesterday at Quantico. Here's Abby Phillips of CNN, for example. Troy, I mean, is the argument here, let's go back to, like barbarian warfare where there are no rules of engagement, everything goes, you know,

no such thing as a war crime, you can do whatever you want. Is that the argument? So warfare is fundamentally something that is very hard to write down in the international law, the law of war. I would say what we heard here today was not a speech for the punning class or the journalist class or even the generals and admirals in that room. I think it was a speech for the warrior class. wonder if I have a gimp costume in my closet. Am I a masochist? Do I like punishment? Do I want to hire a dominatrix? Is that what's going on with me? Because every once in a while, you know, I can't remember what time it is. Is it the nine o'clock hour central time? I'm like,

I wonder what they're doing over on that struggle session that is Abby Phillips. And I did it. I turned over there last night. Get out the whip, Miss Dominatrix. I had to listen to these people talk about whether or not the Secretary of War just has it out for women and people of color. Because, and this is the greatest, this is the best. He says everyone has to be held to the same high standards. Everyone has to pass the physical tests, whether or not you're a general or you are in the infantry. Everyone has to pass the test whether or not you're a woman or a man.

And they hear, why do you have it out for women and people of color? What does that mean about their opinion of women and people of color? that they won't be able to meet high standards? Like, just call it for what it is. You're the sexist. You're the racist. And yet you do this with your kindergarten school teacher condescension as though you're sitting on some moral high ground.

And the answer to your question is, yes, barbarian warfare. Warfare is barbarian. And you have to win. Win warfare. Okay? Get out of here. They triple down on this identity politics. They triple down on this nonsense.

I believe we also have some of the people on MSNBC two a days. Other individuals who are supposed to be leadership are using this kind of language. I call that the meritocracy myth, and it feels as though that that myth of meritocracy, this idea that the women and the people of color, the LGBT folks, they are all there because of some help or some preference. That idea is a lie, but it feels as like it's a lie. They feel like Higgs at the special he has to tell Because then they can twist the narrative

They can twist the truth You can hide excellence It gives cover for his own mediocrity Because he is unqualified to be there Oh my gosh You hide excellence by crying everyone Live up to higher standards By the way on these panels on MSNBC or CNN

They always have the performative mail Do you know what the performative mail is? Oh yeah I just learned this this morning I love it Smalley tinfoil Do you know what a performative mail is No

A lot in New York They wear tote bags And tell me what it's Explain to us A performative male Two days A performative male is a man Who wants to make

You know Females and other people Feel comfortable So they assimilate To their style And fashion And overall demeanor So they seem

Like they're an ally Overly like that So what does that mean Like wearing a MERS Yeah so they wear Like the pearl necklace that your friend wears or the tote bag, things like that, you know, a very feminine kind of clothes that says, I'm not a threat.

And here's the trick. It says, I'm not a threat. So they do that, they do that to score. Yeah. That's the trick, right? They're doing this in order to get to the women. Yeah. And it's great when two performative males meet each other,

then that's a whole other thing. Oh, why? What happens? It's just because they're trying not to break when they talk to each other. you know they're trying to be like overly woke and overly these things and all of a sudden they're like wait a minute wait a minute are you going to break am i going to break it's just fascinating it's like being a con artist yes con artists yes they're like wrapping up their sexual desires in a friendly piece of you know confetti wrapping paper check me out ladies i'm good i'm safe i'm good with you i'm just like you i'm not going to follow you in the subway you know their panels on these channels are full of the performative male. And then, of course, there's the ladies. The ladies are very upset because they're going to have to do the pull-ups. They're just not happy about the pull-ups and the faster mile. And nobody's more upset than, of course, the menopausal ladies on the

view. I'm actually really befuddled by why he did that. The optics were terrible, meaning all of our top military brass are all in one place, and we spent $6 million to get them there. That didn't make a lot of sense to me. It also didn't make a lot of sense to me that he was saying that he was going to toughen physical standards and review the anti-hasing policy by sort of implementing a hazing policy. And then also he said he was going to return to the highest male standard for combat positions because the troops were fat. I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military. It's supposed to be an uplifting message. What?

This is a pep rally? It's a therapy? This isn't uplifting. Can you imagine two fat four stars sitting next to each other in that audience and one turning to the other and go, this is not very uplifting. Yeah. There's nobody to perform for, General. I'm not uplifted.

There's not very many ladies in the audience. Man, these, like, that's Sonny Hosten. I'm curious. Do you think Sonny Hosten think she's more qualified to be the Secretary of War? Like, honestly, do you think she thinks that she could do that job better? Probably, yeah. And what would that speech be like from Sonny Hosten? Like, how would that sound?

What would that do to our military? Well, I think we actually know the answer to that. It's the military that we had over the last four years under Joe Biden. Because we actually had something worse, right? Didn't we have the ultimate performative male? Didn't we have a trans male, at least high up somewhere? I don't know. wearing a uniform.

Like a rear admiral. Was it in charge of health? Transwoman. Trans woman. Yeah, yeah. Well. Yeah, you got to get the terms. And, and, uh, and, uh,

Ed cracked a joke that's just totally distracted me about the rear admiral, um, that I'm trying to get out of my head. So I'm trying to get back on the track. Ed, let's keep a family friendly. This is a family show. Secretary of War said no more dudes in dresses. I think those were his exact words, right? Yep.

No more dudes and dresses. Something else, Sunny Austin said in that clip beside the... Was it the male standard for combat? Yes. The male standard for combat. Yes. Because you know who doesn't care about your identity politics? The enemy.

The enemy just cares about your lethality. All right. As is always the case in this race, the horse runs the best in the middle, stumbles out of the gates, stumbles across the finish line. Did well on last take. Let's see where we are now, tinfoil pat. This one's going to be a little trick here because there's no sought to it, but out of the U.K., well, actually, we do have it. Wow.

Dude, you are just firing on all cylinders. Holy moly. Hey, Patrick, we're going to get on that contract right away, pal. Dude, we're going to dock. I promise you. Management's discussing it as we speak. We're going to dock your pay. Right now, they're in the back rooms.

They're in the highest levels of Fox. Somewhere up at the top of the building going, I don't know, guys. They're watching right now. How much do you think we're going to have to do? So a UK blogger was arrested after an anti-Hamas meme. He sent out an anti-Hmoss meme on social media. Here's a clip of his arrest. Basically, section 19 refers to spreading what we say like racial hatred.

So you've posted something online that we believe is spreading racial hatred. Twitter, Facebook? I can't explain too much. If you were just to give you the context beforehand, I'd put it in an interview. Because I appreciate you've never been arrested before, have you? Yeah, once or twice. Once a twice.

Forrequent fire. I don't think you were. Basically, how it works now is then, if you've got stuff you'd like to gather, obviously I'm more than willing. Oh, you don't talk on the other. Backside of the clip. He doesn't know whether to talk or not.

I take it. Yeah, go over to you, Will. He's just Blakely staring at you. That's what we did. All right, that is a clip that is in England of a man in his living room, sitting on the couch with a police officer. Very nice police officer by. very, very polite British police officer. Very apologetic, actually, but unyielding.

Arresting him for an anti-Hamas post on social media. So you can't talk trash about Hamas in the UK without being arrested. He was taking him from his living, he was, oh, I like, by the way, I'm a frequent flyer. Have you ever been arrested before? Once or twice. I'm curious what he's been arrested for. Like, is it other posts? This is happening with an increasing frequency in the U.K.

It really is. This is Big Brother. This is 1984. This is bad news. It's bad news to be arresting people for speech, period, right? And why does it matter? It's the UK? Because it is, if not the foundation,

the strongest flag bearer of Western civilization over the last half a millennia. And they have slid in time. to this. Step further is the actual content of what he had to say, anti-Hamas, gets you arrested in the UK. And you know what? But for the grace of God, we might be here. I'm telling you, we might be here in America. We had in the works, the Disinformation Bureau, Nina Jankovits, under Joe Biden, they were going to monitor social media. They did take stuff down. We know that. Google and YouTube have admitted it. How big a leap is it? From that, to what we just saw in the U.K.

Electric, electric edition of quick takes with tinfoil pap. Several of your biggest names in comedy are headed for Saudi Arabia. We'll call it the live tour of comedy. Big money in the desert. Is this not the ultimate hypocrisy? We're going to break it down with comedian Bridget Fetasy next on Will Cain Country. I'm Dana Perino. This week on Perino on politics, I am joined by Executive Vice President,

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Byr and Dave Chappelle said yes. Shane Gillis said no. Taking the big money in Saudi Arabia. It is Wilcane Country on the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, but always available by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. Bridget Fetasy is the host

of Walk-In's welcome, also dumped her fire, also Real America with Bridget Fetasy. She's a contributor at the Spectator, and she joins us now. Hey Bridget. Good morning. How you doing? Get a few more shows, Bridget.

Jeez. How many shows? Three? I have one with my husband, too, but it's behind a paywall. That's at your substack, by the way, I assume. A paywall is your substack, Beyond Parity with Bridget Fetasy, which everyone can check out. Should check out as well.

You bet. Bridget, you've been in this world of comedy. You know, I'm sure, a lot of these guys. You've been on Rogan. So the number of comedians that are headed over to Saudi Arabia to do a comedy festival, I think it's taken place over several days because it's like 20 guys that are telling jokes in the desert, is really wild. It includes a lot of people that we like as well here who've been on the show, Andrew Schultz, big fan, Jeff Ross, Sebastian Menascalco, Gabriel Iglesias, Kevin Hart. you're laughing already. Chris DeStefano, Pete Davidson, Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr, Hannibal Burris, Wayne Brady, all headed over there.

Let me just start with. What are your thoughts? Do you wish you were getting the big Saudi money? I don't know if you're aware, but comedians are all. Yes. I'm not sure if people know this anymore because we've become like political pundits in this insane time. But I don't, I don't, I feel like people are holding them to this standard that is surprising to me, knowing comedians. What's, some of them are more surprising than others.

Bilber is surprising to me because he's been on this like free Luigi anti-billionaire tangent that he's been going off on and you're going to go to Saudi and take trillionaire money. Like billionaires are bad, but trillionaires are okay. That one's surprising to me. Dave Chappelle said no to millions of dollars and moved to Africa and now he's doing this. Seems like he might regret that decision of saying no to all that money. And now he's trying to make up for it. The other guys, I'm of many minds about this. I really don't want to hear any lectures about free speech from the headliners of the Saudi Arabian Comedy Festival.

I also don't really blame people for getting that bag because as people who did, as someone who does comedy, as people who, these people slept on mattresses. Like, it's the hardest grind in the world to get to the level that they're at. That being said, they're all rich. I don't know why they need this money. Like these guys are all flying around in private jets, a lot of them, not all of them. But they're very wealthy already. So I was thinking, like, what is the dollar value that I would sell my morals out at?

And it's got to be at least eight figures. I don't think I would do it for just the measly seven or six figures. And the other thing that I don't, the other thing I don't, I was looking at some of the contracts, too, because they've been posted online now. And one of the contracts said that, you know, you have, the management was like, we have to get the flight there. like excuse me if i'm not in a pod on emirates in first class there's no way i'm going to saudi to do comedy and paying for my flight there that's insane but that seems like probably a lower tier of comedian in the only measly six figures the other thing i really i really don't think we it's fair to talk about this without talking about how there's like you can't talk about

South taking money from Saudi without talking about the VC money. It's everywhere in venture capitalism. They just bought EA. They just bought, they own part of X. Like, why are these comedians supposed to, now granted,

they're not necessarily going to Saudi Arabia, and they're not comedians whose whole thing is free speech. But I do, and doing comedy for a, you know, murderous regime. but I do think

it's not entirely fair to say they can't get that money but everybody in tech can and I don't know, I have a lot I'm of many minds about... What is the bag? Let's talk through it. I am too. I want to go through it, but you seem to know

and I don't know. And, you know, I'll tell you why I'm curious. Well, I'm curious just because I'm curious, but we can apply it to the conversation in a minute. You know, the live golf guys, I mean, they got obscene them some money compared to what they were making on the PGA. Like, obscene.

Yeah. Is that what happened in this? Like, Dave Chappelle's got to be getting obscene money. Any idea what they're getting? It doesn't sound. I mean, what's being reported is anywhere from like 365 to 1.6. And it's got to be more than that for some of these guys. It has to.

I have to, I want to and have to believe that it has to be more than that. Now, granted, $1.6 million for one show is a lot of money. but it still comes with this cost of everyone. I mean, Pete Davidson, Pete Davidson. That's crazy. His dad was in the towers on 9-11. How are you going to Saudi Arabia doing this? Unless you're doing it for the bit, which, by the way, Pete, I completely understand.

Now, I do think comedians have been put on this pedestal that's weird to me over the past, like, decade. because they've been speaking out against cancel culture and all this stuff. And it's like, no, no, I don't, I don't think comedians should, they're slippery mercenaries. They're tricksters. This is he who dupes others, but who also dupes himself. Like, you cannot, the, I don't think they should be put on the pedestal of these philosopher kings who are going to uphold morals for society. It's like through their actions, all moral. should come into being.

I totally agree. Okay, here's what I want to do. To organize this conversation, I'm going to come back to comedians. I want to just talk about the other stuff you said for just a minute. Well, Louis C.K. is on the list, by the way. And if it's $1.6 million, I mean, several years ago after Louis C.K. was canceled. There was talk of him going direct to the consumer and doing shows and making much more than that, it seemed like, on his direct-to-consumer shows.

So it just doesn't feel like this is big enough money. to even go through all this stuff that you and I are talking about. It's got to be bigger money. It's got to be. Your point about venture capital and tech companies and sports figures all getting Saudi money and Saudi money really playing a role in our economy at large where I don't sure any of us are living pristine and can really do this from a place of a glass house, you know, or whatever.

That's, I butchered that. But, you know, we're not doing this from, you know, purity here, any of us. But Mark Maron did say, well, how are they going to intro the comedy festival from the folks who brought you 9-11? You know, like, and then, and then here comes Pete Davidson. It is, it's a tough question. Was it John Stewart that famously had this where he's like, no, I can't remember who it was, but like, would you sleep with me for $10 million? Yes. Would you sleep with me for $100?

No, what do you think I am? Well, we've already established what? you are now we're negotiating you know like yeah um at some point you know we are all not just comedians and yeah it makes you wonder for all of us on this money like where is our line and i don't know it's not certainly not a moral line i don't think but it's funny you say what the number is your number apparently is higher than everyone on this comedy festival eight figures i don't think that it's i because i don't think that it's by showing up there you're giving them legitimacy, which is what they want. So you're, so somewhat, you're doing a lot of work on

their behalf, the Saudi Arabian behalf, saying like, see, we've got these comedians coming. And look how, you know, it's like the, it's like when they feed hostages really well. And then they make them do a video and they're like, it's like Hamas treating the hostage as well. You know, like, look how well we're feeding these hostages. That, it has a little bit of that. It has a little bit of that vibe to me of see how well we're treating these comedians, we're letting them make their little silly jokes

and maybe we'll even let Whitney drive while she's here. You know, they've, I mean, they are letting women drive and I guess there's a lot of accidents now, so there is some kind of joke in that, but

there, you know, it's very complicated. Do they let women drive in Saudi Arabia now? Yeah. Do they? I think so, yeah. And have accidents going up. I don't know how they do it with like no peripheral vision and like I think there are accidents.

You, you, it's very complicated because money gets to go wherever it wants and people don't get to go wherever they want. And in this kind of global economy that we have, I, there's, like I said, I'm of many minds about this. I personally don't think I would do it. I don't, again, there's probably a number. You know, Stavros, who said no to this as well, said he stopped taking their calls because they kept doubling it. And he knew eventually there would be a number that he just couldn't say no to and didn't want to be put in that position.

Shane, Gilles said that too, right? He said that he said no and they doubled the money and he still said no. Yeah, but he's also like not giving his buddy. Like he also understands, I guess, why people are doing it. I think he's big enough to be able to say that. Shane can probably easily do a bud-like commercial. And I think the dumbest argument that I see is, well, it's basically the same thing as working for America. And I'm like, okay, go smoke another joint.

I love your take of a 20-year-old in college. Like, thank you for your ridiculous idea that somehow America is as bad as, Saudi Arabia on human rights. But that's another one you hear. It's like another justification. Let's take a break. But we'll be right back with comedian Bridget Fetasy here on Will Kane country. Well, the, okay, now I want to come back to the comedians because I agree with everything you've said. I think I agree with all you're going to say as well, meaning it's hard to criticize people. none of us live from a place of moral authority on where money is going and who you're taking money from. There are degrees of it, filling up at the gas station, knowing there's Arab oil

going into your tanks, is not the same thing, is taking $1.6 million directly to tell jokes in the desert. Not the same thing. But I do appreciate that, but I do appreciate that, you know, if we're being honest, all of us probably have some figure except for the most dedicated moralist among us. And so I'm not going to crush these guys. That's not really my position. of crushing them for going to Saudi Arabia and taking this money. And I also like what you said. They're not philosopher kings, the place that we've elevated them into society. They're what did you call them slick mercenaries?

But. Yeah. And we shouldn't hold them to this high standard. But I do think it's now fair to hold them to their own standard, the standard that they have set. And that is guys like Bill Burr, who see a tyrant in Donald Trump, who call him the Orange man that. And it's going to be more than Bill Burr. There's going to be a lot of these guys on here who have done this bit, who have taken on the position of the moralist philosopher

when it comes to the evils of America. And, and, you know, in the past, people are like, well, I'm not going to criticize Saudi Arabia because it's not my country. I can criticize my country because this is where, but now you're going to that country and getting paid by people who have no free speech, who have no equal rights, who at best are very highly suspected of being involved in 9-11, who murdered a journalist in Jamal Khashoggi, who did all these things. And I just can't take you back over here. I never did anyway in terms of taking you seriously. But I can't even stand you to come back here and now start moralizing through the lens of a joke to me about Donald Trump. Yeah, that there, I mean, this is, it reminds me so much

of Jonathan Heights's righteous minds. Like at base, we're all hypocrites and we're all judgmental hypocrites. So there it is hard for me to throw like rocks in a glass house. I don't know what these people's situations are. I do think that like I said, even about the free speech stuff in Jimmy Kimmel, a lot of these people were going off about free speech and Jimmy Kimmel. And I was like, I don't want to hear it from the Saudi Arabian comedy festival lineup. I don't care. Like you're going to get out there. Even Schultz was doing this. He did his big video kind of comparing what was happening with Charlie Kirk to the free speech and Kimmel. And look, I'm pro free speech, but if you're going to go fly to Saudi Arabia,

like free speech for me, but not for thee, that feels insane and ridiculous to me. And you're right. We should be holding them to the standards they set for themselves. I think that that's at the very least fair. Now, I generally don't think I apply that to comedians because I think they're slippery mercenary mercenary. And they're more, I saw, there was this tweet the other day that I keep thinking about. A lot of people think they're weather when they're really weather veins. And I think that these people are weather veins.

And they're going to go where it's okay to go. They're only going there because they somehow feel like it's okay now. That's what's more interesting to me is that it's somehow, I don't know if it was the live golf. it's funny you call it that because that's what I've been calling it is like the live golf of comedy festivals I don't know I don't know what shifted in the culture if it is the VC money everywhere I was at an event where I was writing with a comedian

who is supposed to roast the event and the Kushners were there the Saudis were there there were leftists there it was like money gets to do whatever it wants so there is a part of me that's like go get the bag go get it But something shifted that this is even okay. Something did shift.

I do think Liv probably had something to do with it. The golfers sort of were the, whatever, the bull who ran through the wall. Now comedians can follow through the whole. Let's talk about that weather vane thing for a moment. It's kind of interesting. I haven't spoken to you since the Jimmy Kimmel stuff. Jimmy Kimmel was just on Colbert along with Seth Myers. They told stories about Colbert's cancellation.

Apparently, they all share the same agent along with John Stewart as well. He's the one that broke the news to Colbert, that he was canceled by CBS. And they all commiserated with each other. If she met the weather vein, Bridget, in terms of like these guys, for the record, this is just factual. This isn't even me trying to be mean. Their ratings are awful. They're really bad. Somebody said to me the other day, like, you talk so much about Jimmy Kimmel.

What about yours? I'm like, I beat Jimmy Kimmel. I'm not bragging, but I beat Jimmy Kimmel. Maybe I am bragging. You should brag. I'm not talking about digital numbers. I'm talking about Apple to Apple TV numbers. So, but they're not following where the weather is.

They're not the weather vein. So I don't know if these guys are just principled or that their weather vein is off. Like they live in their New York City or L.A. bubble. Everyone around them says this is what everybody thinks and believes and their weather veins starts, you know, pointing the way their local winds suggests. But they destroyed their own. ratings by doing the stuff that they've done, which really doesn't, isn't measuring the weather. Yeah, but we're talking, okay, we're talking about old media versus new media. This is a

circle on the, this is a circuit on the nursing home that is network television, you know, like these guys are part of a dying institution, and they make a lot of money from that dying institution. They're making tens of millions of dollars a year to basically parrot an ideology that they can't really stray outside of. New media is different. And I think that the incentives to be honest are good in new media, although I think there's a, again, there's a lot of room for just monetary capture. A lot of these comedians are people who have made millions of dollars podcasting, millions, and not even in comedy. We're talking about,

in podcasting and that is there and they have a lot more downloads than jimmy kimmel and stephen colbert and all of these people so part of it is is this is like they don't i'm looking forward to jimmy and stephen cobert probably having a podcast a year from now yeah absolutely because that's where they all have to end up going and they'll make good money they'll make good money yeah they'll get huge podcasting deals they and they're and they think they're principled but they're they didn't stick up for anybody when it actually mattered or when it would have cost them viewers and it would have cost their audience i mean i don't i don't think that they're it was funny some someone was saying like wow a bunch of guys

you each other off on network television the slippery slope is real it's just like these guys all talking to each other and smelling each other's farts and they're completely of touch from where the rest of America has moved. So I don't think anyone would consider these guys weather veins or weather. I think they're like a rusty, they're like a rusty tractor in the field, you know? I don't, I don't know. I get it. What do you think?

Have you heard anything about this? Looking forward, I'm curious what CBO. will do you described it right it is a it's an aging institution the late night format the broadcast media in general i wonder what cbs will do in place of colbert have they told us have they announced that like why do we have networks still why do we have networks still why do we have networks still the answer that is going to be about money i mean that's the only reason the FCC exists. Yeah, well,

and radio. Yeah, radio. And radio. Any licensed airwave. Yeah. Why do we have networks still? The only thing they play is sports. That's it. That's really the only thing people watch on network television anymore.

So can someone, I'm asking a serious question. Everyone is getting that. I am too, so I think my guess is I don't have the stats in front of me. The vast majority people are watching those networks on cable television or whatever the modern equivalent of cable television is, streaming YouTube TV or whatever it is, right? Meaning very few people are getting it actually through the licensed airwaves with rabbit

ears. There are people out there that still have rabbit ears. That's true. They do. And they're getting it through the regulated airwaves. But I would be curious. I don't know what percentage that is. It can't be a large percentage that are getting it through that mechanism anymore.

So why do we have networks? I don't know. yeah the whole institution is done you know this is this is these are people who are fighting for their survival in on in their own format late night television which is dead and many people do better your show is as funny as their show if not funnier you have jesse waters who's basically doing late night you've got gutfeld you there's plenty of other people that can they people can tune into so you have and you can tune in whenever you want so you have a dying this format was supposed to late night was supposed to be the pallet cleanser after you watched the news which you got

right in the evening when you came home and then we got the 24 hour news cycle so if anything killed late night it was that 24 hour news cycle at least that was the beginning of the end then the internet came and i've seen every joke that they make on late night on twitter before by the time they go and make it it's it's impossible to try and be fresh i'm not i'm not i'm not so so many things killed it like okay well the idea of the celebrity interview was was part of the late night thing i'm trying to think at any point in my life was i a big consumer of any of these guys carson leno letterman conan i watch the celebrity interview well the celebrity interview is part of it and obviously podcasting killed that it even

killed Howard Stearns. Like, he's not a differentiator anymore. He's a great interviewer. But now you could go to Dak Shepard or Joe Rogan or whoever you want and get an hour-long sit-down with a celebrity. So that's out. Comedy, the bit, the joke, to your point, is out. And you put the two reasons of one of which is self-inflicted. If you're going to differentiate yourself, don't be CNN. Don't do the 24-hour news cycle, right? That's already available and it's already been seen. The joke itself has already been seen on social media. So what do you do? You probably have to go further into being the palate cleanser.

Like, that's how you differentiate yourself. And the only thing that ever caught my attention was right before, and this will make me unpopular. But right before the Trump era, Jimmy Fallon was doing like funny skits and little game shows and lip syncing and stuff like that. And that was unique content, I thought. And I don't know that I watched it or if I saw it on social media. And then he got crushed because Trump comes along. Colbert does all anti-Trump and that gets ratings. Yeah.

But there for a moment, I feel like Fallon had something that was supposed to be what it was intended. The fun, differentiated palate cleanser. Yeah, but they also abandoned their duty to entertain all Americans. And in the Trump era, they have decided to only entertain one side of America and otherwise be alienated from their friends and their communities and their whatever. they're there this this divide occurred at the same time new media was blowing up and then we we have just different silos of media now so these guys they abandon their duty to entertain everybody the mask came fully off in 2015 with SNL has suffered a very similar fate and now you've got you've got people who can get entertainment wherever they want it and then they and then you have and again this is

like we live in this time where media is in such an enormous freefall it's where are we going to be we're going to be replaced by AI well I know it's it's it's totally legit I was going to talk about Wikipedia with you I'm still I've been two days I've been one to talk about Wikipedia and their black list of sites which includes Fox News that they won't use as sources which by the way is is important not just because you can't trust Wikipedia, but AI really relies on Wikipedia as one of its main sources. So what you're getting from AI is going to be biased. But I was thinking about transition to that topic with you. But what I was thinking was everything is being destroyed.

There is creation, but everything. Broadcast television, then cable television, even the things on the Internet that you think, you know, Google's in the process of being destroyed right now. AI is destroying search. I use it for search often. Yeah. But to your point, like, nothing, nothing, not only is nothing permanent, nothing lasts that long anymore. Yeah. But this is why I think it's our job.

You know, I've been talking a lot about this with like the Wikipedia thing's interesting because we've known again that this has been ideologically captured for a long time. So everybody's, and any, well, maybe the last. doesn't know this, but the people who are independent and on the right, they've been aware of this for a long time. People have been pushing back. I do think it's good that somebody like, Elon is creating at least some balance or something to compete with it so that it's not completely captured. But I really think I want to buy just like an encyclopedia set. What worries me is that it is that like bi-physical media. We, everything's,

going to be rewritten. You know, there's, there's so much history and stuff like that that's being changed and morphed and, right? Yeah. That's happening on e-books. Like, they've already done that with e-books. So you literally have to go get an old physical copy. If you buy, I can't remember which books they did it to. I'm thinking it was some Mark Twain books. But they, if you buy an e-book of, I don't know, let's just say, I could be wrong on this, but Huckleberry Finn, you're not getting the book that was published by Mark Twain or that was available 20 years ago. They did it to one of the role doll books. Yeah, the books, they took away, like, references to being fat and, and, yeah, it's, it's definitely, the Wikipedia thing's interesting, although I'm not sure that it's, it all just feels like an AI arms race.

You know, we're all having these conversations and, and this is, again, to circle back to the Saudi Arabia stuff. I think people sense this and they're going, I'm just going to grab as much money as I can while I can. As we were coming onto, as I was coming onto your show, there's this story going around about how Maxwell House changed, rebranded to Maxwell Apartments. And I was like, oh, the crash is coming, isn't it? Like, you have a copy. Is that real? I was just reading about it in the New York Post when I came under. the show. So I'm assuming. Come on. That can't be real. Maxwell House is Maxwell

apartments. Get, get, I need somebody. My guy Ed is over there on the internet. Is he back checking it for me? Yeah. I think there is this sense of people going, you know what? I'm just going to grab as much as I can while I can. We see this in media. Our industry is so, there's so many people taking money from foreign influences and different countries. My crack researcher says it's real. What? Yeah.

Ed. It's real. The crash is coming. Get out of here. Oh my God. Yeah, the crash is coming. 133-year-old brand. Well, rest in peace, Maxwell House.

Say how to Aunt Jamima and Uncle Ben while you're up there. We don't want people who feel bad when they're drinking those in their apartment. Like, we live in the softest times of all time. We, yeah, so I do think that there is this. Go, I wrapped you in the middle of your answer. That's right. Check her out in Walk-In's welcome. Dumpster Fire, Real America with Bridget Fetasy.

And then there's this mysterious show as well with her husband that you only get behind a paywall by heading over to Substack, beyond parody with Bridget Fetasy. I mean, that mysterious show is enough. That's what you got to buy. yeah it's good that's in i mean my husband's a hell of a tease that's how it should be from now on there's secret content it's not paywalled it's just secret small five dollar fee monthly and you get that show as well all right brexit always good to see you thanks for being with us thank you for having me take care um by the way over there in the willisha christine says police have to pass fitness test right

I think Pete is doing a great job. Being fit is a good idea. We want a healthier America. And by the way, Christine, we want badass warriors. Killers. No flex arm hang. 72 Marsh Flower says, this channel is performative male, L.O.L. We might be.

72, Marshall. We might be. Are we coming off as feminine? Have I been declawed? I'll just talk. No. A little more accessible. The funny thing is, with that voice, and you are the most performative of all of us.

Hey. Yeah, you have that voice. Hey. Yeah. Hey. You meant, hey. I took offense, though. Alec Collie says, stop picking on tinfoil.

He did great. That's definitely his burner account. You got some defenders. That's definitely his burner account. If he has a burner, he named it Alec Coffey. Like tinfoils is going to be a triple entendre. Like something real sneaky about a conspiracy. All right.

Ethan Penner is running for governor of California as an independent. Plus, what generation does what? Listen to what in their car coming up on Wilcane Country. While other money managers are holding, dynamic is hunting. Seeing past the horizon, investing beyond the benchmark, because your money can't grow if it doesn't move. Learn more at dynamic.ca slash active. Get this. I don't know how Ed became our crack researcher, and somebody pointed out,

We're not performative males. We are actually crappy performers. You ever hung out on Wilcane Country? Our crack researcher, Ed, probably using AI here. We're just talking about why do we have broadcast TV, who still has rabbit ears, how are people getting content? Listen to this, fellas. And it's going up. Look at the number.

What does this mean? In 2026, there are 54.3 million pay TV households. There are 80.7 million non-pay TV households. So non-pay, I take that. to mean not doing cable, not streaming. Surely they're streaming. Eighty million households in the United States have no streaming, no cable. They're rabbiteering it. Can't be true. And that number's going up. In 2019, that number was 44 million. It's flipped, basically, between pay and non-pay. This has got to be people who are canceling their cable and they are streaming stuff. That's got to

include that. Well, then this is bad research, Ed, if it's streaming. Don't, don't, don't throw your hands up in the air and say it's probably streaming. I'm, I'm curious how many people are rabbit earing. You're going to get fired from being our researcher, Ed. Look up rabbit ears, over-air television. No streaming included. This can't be right. You know who probably knows is Ethan Pinner. He's running for governor of California. He's an independent. And he comes from a world of innovation and finance. He worked on Wall He probably knows this. Ethan, do you think a lot of households are still taking, are you using rabbit ears for

television? I can't be, right? I'm old enough to remember real rabbit ears when I would actually fight with my brother when one of the ravineers broke and I told them, can you just stand there and hold it up against the TV so I could watch a football game? So I remember rabbit ears. I haven't seen rabid ears in a while, but no, the numbers look a little strange to tell you the truth.

Yeah, I agree. I would question that research. But I do, you know, well, or just fire your researcher. But I do think people are probably kind of overwhelmed with the choices, right? How many, how many channels do people really need? You know, so the cable thing is a little crazy. Yeah, okay, Ethan, this is interesting. I think people are overwhelmed, period.

Like when you said, I think people are probably overwhelmed. I didn't know where you were going to go there for a second. But you think about the inundation of information, the rapid change in innovation, and technology, the chaotic news cycle, not all of which is manufactured by guys like me. I don't manufacture, but I'm just saying every news person needs to think about whether or not you're manufacturing chaos and negativity. I just think you're looking at a population of people that are incredibly overwhelmed, to your point.

And that manifests in politics. Yeah, people are scared. in politics as well. No doubt. No doubt. And look, we see the, I'm running as an independence, and it's an effort to try to heal this divide, which is really predicated upon fear and fear mongering. And I think people are scared on a very high level right now. And the overwhelming aspect of things and the conflict that I think we feel every day, and you see this government shutdown, just another example of it, people are nervous.

yeah i mean the only thing i'll disagree with what you had to say is the government shut down to me and look everyone has to ask is it impacting you or not and that's why it's not but it's a bit these government shutdowns are always a thud it's always happening it's always like hyped up to tim you know somebody made a joke on social media unless you need to use a bathroom at a national park this isn't going to impact your life by way tsa is still operating the military is still operating. Everything is still operating. But I do agree with the fear thing, like politicians playing on fear.

Everybody knows my personal biases, but I think politicians constantly accusing their political opponents of fascism, authoritarianism, and Nazism is a pure play to fear. And really gets in the way of anyone ever making a rational choice on what the right place, the right direction is for their country or their state, a state like California. Yeah. Yeah. Well, California's been wayward for too long. California is the most incredible place. I grew up in New Yorker. My dad moved here when I was a kid, and I've been visiting, and then I moved here and made a life here. It's an amazing place, and it's been destroyed by bad ideas. And we've seen that throughout the world, even in my lifetime. My wife's Venezuelan. And Venezuela was also once one of the great countries in the world, destroyed by bad ideology, bad politics. And California's going the same way where, you know, your state, Texas is kicking our butt, literally kicking our butt and has been for so long. And it's not because California is not a better place to live. All the people I know in Texas vacation in California, all my friends. So California's an amazing spot, but we need to write everything that's wrong here, and that's what I'm running for.

Okay, and so how do you do that? Well, the number one thing is to stop vilifying success. I mean, we have this, we've embraced this idiotic ideology that teaches people that winners are bad and that people who are kind of pursuing the American dream as people like you and I have in our lives are somehow bad people and owe something to people who don't, you know, who don't try and don't succeed. And I think this whole idea of vilification of success needs to be turned around. I have a tax plan that I've introduced that has already gotten great acclaims. from independent sources like American Enterprise Institute and the Tax Foundation. And I think it communicates to the world that California is open for business again. You can't be pro-employee, pro-worker, and then drive away all the employers and all the

companies, which is what we've been doing stupidly. Yeah, to your point, a lot of them moving here to Texas. So a tax structure, a tax plan, I'm reading here, prioritizes protecting struggling families from new burdens while creating an environment of a bunch of. rather than scarcity. But what does that mean specifically? What, tax incentives for businesses? Is that lowering your state income tax, flatten your state income tax? What are you talking about? I'm going to get rid of all the state income tax, and I'm going to replace it all, including our sales tax, with a single consumption tax. So there won't be any more income tax in the state of California. We'll go from the

highest state income tax to zero, just like you in Texas, and just like people in Florida. And we're going have one single... It's a huge draw. It's an amazing draw. It's a huge draw for Florida and Texas. Tennessee, I think, is at 1%. Yeah. What are you guys? It goes up to what? 12%, 13%. 13.3%. And that's really just the beginning because we have all kinds of other idiotic taxes that I'm going to get rid of as well, that are state level taxes. So it's actually more than that. That's incredible. I mean, the question is you're running as an independent. By the way, the field includes Katie Porter who's running as a Democrat. Antonio Villagorosa, who's running as a Democrat, Xavier Bacera, who's running as a Democrat,

Steve Hilton, who's running as a Republican, Chad Bianca, who's on our program, running as a Republican. The question, though, is, you know, bold vision, independent, then you go to Sacramento and you've got this legislature that you have to work with that reflects, if not the desires of Californians, the audiology that's been entrenched and in place that got you here over the last two decades, or more, three decades. Well, I think that this divide, right? You look at how on the national level, it's a mirror of what happens in states like California, where Democrats fear to agree with Republicans because it'll cost them their support. And so a guy showing up as an independent governor with ideas that are truly win-win ideas. I mean, my ideas are not meant to get the rich, rich or God forbid, I think that, you know, the rich can take care of themselves. We've learned that over. over a lifetime. But I think that we need a place that works for everybody. My ideas will work for

everyone. And when I show up as an independent with those ideas, supported by a voting population that elected me based on those ideas, it's going to be hard for the legislators to repel me. Well, I think what you got going for you, at least from this seat, this vantage point, is I don't think incremental change is going to be, it is a bad situation that they're in in the state of California. And incrementalism is not going to solve it. You're going to need something bold to get that state back on track. And it should be, to your point, it's a great state. It's a beautiful state. It's got so much going for it. But it's going to take some bold jerk of the steering wheel to get it back on the road. Otherwise, I don't know. You bring up Venezuela. You know,

I'm just sitting here thinking, like, what's the biggest failed state, like example? And I don't know, New York's gone, the city of New York has gone to the Fed several times and asked for a bailout. Detroit, I'm looking at cities largely here, but Detroit has, you've seen a total collapse on what that city once was. And I would imagine what those, notably Detroit, what has happened did over time, is a warning, because it could be the future in California. There's no doubt. Portland is the most recent one. I invested as a real estate investor in Portland just before the COVID whole experience. And right at that time, Portland was coming on.

It had never had blooming like it was having. And people were abandoning San Francisco thinking Portland is the next San Francisco. And then you saw COVID happen. And the political response to COVID in Portland and the tolerance of crime and homelessness literally destroyed the city. And now, of course, you see the Fed, the fight over the feds coming in to save it. But Portland went from really a top five city in America, and it should be. It's that beautiful to being a place similar to Detroit, a failed state. And I think California is definitely on the edge of that, which is what inspired me to run.

I mean, I'm not a politician. I had no desire to be a politician, but I saw the people that are running and the trajectory of this state. And I said, if I don't, you know, if someone like me doesn't step up right now, There's no hope. And I didn't see anybody like me, so I figured it might as well be me. Nobody like you in the field is pretty wide open. As I understand it, is this correct? You also teach at my alma mater, Pepperdine.

I have taught there for the last seven years. I teach a class in business school. Yeah, as you know, it's an amazing place, beautiful place. Nice. Nice. Awesome. I didn't know that. That's great. Go waves.

Well, we're glad to have you at Pepperdine. We're glad to have you running for governor. And glad to have you on the show here today. Ethan Pinter, wish you the best of luck. Thank you. Thanks, Will. Okay, take care. Check them out as that California gubernatorial race has a lot of names now in the field

and some offering some very different visions for that state and what it needs. Okay, before we go here today, let's get back to it with a quick episode of, as we do every day now, final takes. Speaking of performing, me, yeah, I know, do we have drums? Do we have a little intro, two a days? We are not performative males. We are anti-performative males. Two-A-days? You got something for me?

Final take. Your mouth didn't even move. That's a pre-record. Nice. No, that was live. Yeah. Oh, that was live. Oh, my returns on delay.

I was looking in the wrong place. Sorry. Performance. We're not giving this over to two. tin foil pat again are we we're not letting him have a quick takes and final takes this is going to be a little looser too that's not in his contract what does that mean i'm just not going to be as polished as a quick take oh so you are taking the steering wheel okay buckle up i was joking oh no that sounded like a full full takeover drive here we go rail here we go will you spend a lot of time

your car you're from texas a lot of driving in texas and there's a recent poll out where where people are discussed people do a lot of weird things spend a lot of time in their cars and uh so what do you do with your me time in your car how do you spend your time in your car i don't know if you listen to music you do you uh raw dog it with uh no no sound I'm just trying to end it. No, the car runs until it runs out of gas stand. That's how it works. It doesn't have brakes.

You're right. It has a limited gas. It's just until it putters out. That's the braille. The braille is the end. It's like, is there an embankment that I can not run it into at full speed, but slightly at like a two mile an hour creep bump in. to bring this thing to a stop.

I'm running out of sound bites to play to stop it, so it's good. Okay. We got an image. You got an image. That's right. Great production, tinfoil. Good job. It's up on the screen.

Here is how generations spend their time in the car. Millennials, they think about life and plan their futures. They also listen to podcasts. So some 44% think about life and plan their futures while about 39% listen to podcasts. Sounds about right. Gen X, me, listen to music. 89% of Gen Xers listen to music in the car. And then there's Gen Z, the youngest. They enjoy silence, as Patrick described it, raw-dogging it.

55% just enjoy the silence. and 25% take naps in their cars, hopefully not while driving. Tesla's. I think it's pretty accurate. My son, I think he's Gen Z. I think he is. He could be Gen Alpha. Is that what comes after Gen Z?

Yeah, he's Alpha. He is. When he pulls into the driveway, he doesn't come inside. I mean, sometimes, like, how long has he been in the driveway? I don't know, like 15 minutes, and he's sitting in his car. And part of me wants to make, like, what are you doing? Is it that bad in our house that you just can't bring yourself to come in? Like, what's going on?

But you know what? I kind of take into doing that lately. When I go home at the end of the day, like when my day is over, I pull into the driveway, and I'm not proud of this. And then you kind of, I'm listening to something on the radio. I pull my phone out. I start scrolling. And I just kind of sit there in the driveway doing that.

And I don't think it's healthy or good. But I'm, I'll bet you there are other people out there doing it. that now everybody on the show except for patrick lives in new york and patrick's a recluse so he just doesn't drive over bridges in jacksonville and stays in his house but everybody else is riding trains to work so you don't

really apply this doesn't apply to you but i'm curious if everybody listening does that too or a lot of people sit on their phones for 10 minutes when they pull into the driveway um I'm not a typical gen exer I would say my car driving diet is as follows

60 to 70% sports radio 25% podcast um what kind podcast sometimes that's the thing about podcast

I don't have something I'm religious about it would be talk it would be talk it would be like the Rogan type stuff Sean Ryan Joe Rogan well I don't have to listen to Will Kane country I see we could really use the downloads Well, it's because of your job you listen to sports and, you know, news and podcasts.

That's the best thing you said today, Patrick. We could really use the downloads. And then so 5%, here sometimes, so I'm probably at about 90% on my math, if I'm right, somewhere in there. 5% I will stream Fox News live if there's big events during the day and I want to know, like, what's happening. Shout out. That's more middle of the day type stuff. And then 5% music. I don't listen to music that often.

I enjoy it when I do, but I don't, I just don't do it that often. What do you guys do in the car? I used to do music. I was just always music because I'm a musician, so I used to always blast it. I definitely don't listen to NPR, so I don't even get that in your head. Performative mail. Wink, wink. I don't have an NPR tote bag.

But I'm podcast all the way. I listen to like history-long podcast, things like that. I love it. Do you have a good one? I've been on the search for a good history. I mean, I've got a couple I do here or there. History hyenas. So that's your comedy one, right?

Yeah. I listen to Stoic one, the, the guy we like that we have on. Stoicism podcast. It's pretty good. It's a holiday. I forget his name. Ryan Holiday. But I'm mostly, when I take the train in or the car, I'm mostly comedy podcast.

Because I can get away from the news, get away from hating my sports teams. Yeah. I'm glutton on the sports talk. You don't have a microphone. You're Gen X, Ed? Yeah, you're Gen X. What do you listen to in the car? Yell it. Morning news.

It all depends. Okay, good. This is going to be a really good short answer. First thing he said is it all depends. Yeah. It all started in 1985. Okay. You don't have a mic.

You got to be quicker. Flok the Seagulls. Okay. Oh, okay. He said music and smartless. He's a smartless guy. I love smartless, too. Talk about a performative male.

Whoa. Oh, whoa. Don't go after my guys like that. Don't go after my guys like that. Not Dak Prescott. Dak Shepard. That's the next for you. And then after that, you'll be listening to Bray Brown.

I strictly listen to Gavin Newsom's podcast. It's fine. No, I'm kidding. Is he putting out episodes, by the way? Did he just do one or two? He did Charlie Kirk. He did like two or three others. Did it die already? Is he like Michelle Obama and Barack Obama and the Royals?

They got like these $20 million contracts to do like four episodes. How do you get one of those contracts? I have not heard of the Gavin Newsom podcast, honestly. Since the Charlie Kirk episode. Six days ago was the last. I don't know who he's had on or what he's done. He has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight episodes starting on his tenths. Eight episodes he's got.

I wonder who his deals with. He may not have a deal. He may not have a deal. Is he allowed to have a deal? Out of five. Three star rating. Yeah. Okay.

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