Will Cain Country - DHS Shutdown Throws Airports into CHAOS (ft. Dave Asprey)
Episode Date: March 23, 2026With Will coming off the heels of a long overdue checkup at the doctor, Longevity Expert, Creator of the Biohacking Movement, and Best-selling Author Dave Asprey joins the Will to share how you can op...timize your body. He explains the main misunderstandings about cholesterol, the side effects of statins and sunscreen, and also gives his dietary advice and opinions on alcohol and THC.Plus, Will and The Crew react to comments from you, ‘The Willitia,’ before taking a look at which MLB players have been lying about their height after new league regulations required more precise measurements to be taken and the alleged chaos at airports across the country as the DHS shutdown causes long lines due to TSA staff shortages.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@willcainnews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Spring break, after one week of eating and drinking.
In Mexico, I capped off a week of spring break with a day.
at the doctor, which is a perfect way to have a conversation today with Dave Asprey,
the four-time New York Times bestselling author and longevity expert on biohacking.
Today on Wilcane Country.
Country, it's Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page,
always available by following us at Spotify or on Apple.
What's up, two of days, what's up, tinfoil?
we're back
Tanner
better
than ever
at least according to the doctor
we were here the whole time well
going with a new
waiting
going with a new haircut I see while I was gone
real
button down there tinfoil
hard part going
swoop down
too long out of control
I mean
interesting look I go away
for a week come back
your poindexter. Will's a different shade. It was spring break, and I did travel to Mexico.
You know, as part of that, that means I went through security. I went through TSA. I went through
customs, and it all went fairly smoothly, at least from Texas to Mexico. But as I see in the news,
it's not going so smoothly across America. Two-hour wait times at some airports across the country,
like Atlanta, New York, JFK.
And then last night, an Air Canada flight at New York's LaGuardia Airport runs into a fire truck making its way across the runway.
The cone is sheared from the Air Canada flight, and the two pilots are killed.
A firefighter seemed to be okay, but a massive fire truck collides with the cone of an airplane,
and apparently it tears the front off the airplane.
The images are pretty scary, as you can imagine, being one of those two pilots in the cockpit as you're just torn away from the plane.
And sadly, those two pilots lost their life.
The air traffic controller admits, quote, I messed up.
Meanwhile, in what many are calling Lake and Riley 2.0, a young lady named Sheridan Gorman in Chicago, on a walk, on the lakefront, is killed by an illegal immigrant, walking.
down the pier, the illegal immigrant from Venezuela, opens fire, and kills young Sheridan
Gorman, a college student at Loyola University in Chicago.
Finally, rain is dumping in waves and sheets and feet and not inches all over Hawaii.
Oahu and my beloved Maui are getting hammered.
And there's incredible videos of water just running off the mountains, through, tearing through
the towns destroying the infrastructure, you know, three years, less than three years removed
from horrible fires in Lahaina, now they're dealing with floods.
I learned that cycle after four years at Pepperdine University in Malibu, California.
First come the flyers, then come the floods, then come the mudslides.
It's terrible. It's terrible.
Specifically in Oahu, but it's terrible in Hawaii.
And all of this to say, it is happening while DHS.
the Department of Homeland Security remains unfunded.
Democrats in the Senate and Congress are withholding funds from DHS because of their opposition to ice.
That's why TSA lines are two hours, three hours long.
That's why FEMA relief funds could be held up headed to Hawaii.
That's why, much like flooding and Hawaii creates a cascading effect of
failing infrastructure, we're looking at a cascading effect of failing American systems.
Democrats are so dedicated to ensuring that there is no deportation of illegal immigrants,
or at least not by ICE, that they are willing to sacrifice, I don't know, your time when it
comes to spring break, your safety on airport runways, and your relief from any type of natural
disaster. It's not partisan politics. You don't want to lay you every single thing
the hands of the people from whom you would disagree.
You have a different political party.
But at some point, you have to say, you're not willing to fund the safety, the security,
the convenience, the relief of Americans.
Because you want to ensure people like this Venezuelan, illegal immigrant in Chicago,
can remain on the streets and not deported in their nightmarish dreams, as you've painted the picture,
by a masked ICE officer back to their home country.
Sheridan Gorman doesn't want to hear about that.
Americans standing across the country don't want to hear about that.
And Democrats give lip service to deportations.
They give lip service, just like they did, to the border.
They give lip service, just like they did with a comprehensive immigration bill.
Because they know that their position ultimately embodied by the death of Sheridan
Gorman is inherently unpopular with the American people.
And that position today,
needs to fall in line with every other 80-20 proposition.
Secure the border. Keep men out of women's sports.
Ensure that only American citizens are voting in elections.
And fund DHS.
All-inclusive resort after I got through those security and customs lines, which meant, yeah, which means it's not of the highest quality, but it is of the highest quantity.
Whatever that you want, drink the rainbow, but don't drink the water.
don't drink the water but drink the rainbow the rainbow is every colored drink that exists at the bar that they can mix into food coloring and dye when you're liquor of choice you're down there with a bunch of high school kids you learn what it is to drink the rainbow i'm not saying all the parenting decisions were the wisest but i'm just telling you exactly how it goes down in mexico and i don't know if people from across the country make their way to mexico but there's a long tradition of texans going across the border and living their worst life back end of that at the back end of five
days where like a jackass I got sunburned on day two. Came out of the gates hot, by the way,
on Saturday. Came out of the gates real hot. Had to put myself to bed a little early on Saturday night.
Sunday then just laid down in a lawn chair and allowed myself with no sunscreen to get absolutely
cooked. Among the jackasses and the teenagers, I was the most, I was in the running for the biggest
jackass. But then my wife, who's concerned about my health at all occasions, recognized I haven't
into the doctor, I don't know, it could be a decade, somewhere between five and 10 years. So she's
like, you got to take a day off. So Friday, I came back on Thursday night on Friday,
I had an all day physical at the doctor. I did a stress test, you know. I was on the treadmill
for 30 minutes with the heart monitor attached. I got an EKG. I got a calcium score. They
looked for blockage. I had my blood work, my lab work, metabolic work. I had my blood work,
metabolic work done.
I learned everything, man.
I learned everything about myself and how I'm doing at age 50.
And it turns out, guys, I'm gold.
Not platinum, but I'm gold.
Lucky you.
Zero.
If we're not going to the doctor for a long time and being 50 years old,
it's pretty impressive.
Yeah, thank you.
Also, by the way, I got a height in weight measurement,
official one.
Body mass index, fat percentage.
and height. We've had a lot of conversations on height on this program. And we've talked about
the various heights of people that have walked through these doors. And we've all said,
Will is 6-2. Let's find out, because I've got the official measurements from the doctor.
I am six-foot-one and three-eighths. Wow. Which is just shy of being able to round it up to
6-2. That's about what I thought. But that, that is not.
the biggest height inflation that we've noticed in the past week.
Major League Baseball has introduced their ABS automatic strike zone system.
Because of that, you know, computers gauging it's a strike or a ball.
They've had to get the height of every player.
And we've got the heights.
And who's been lying about their height?
Because now everybody wants to tell the truth.
A lot of people.
To make the strike zone smaller.
So we're going to break that truth, just like we broke the truth of my hype.
But on the heels of going to the doctor and learning a lot about myself,
We have the perfect guest for us today to talk about being weird about your health.
That means not falling into the trap of normal, processed foods, low energy, little sleep.
But actually, not waiting for the doctor to tell you what's wrong, but doing what makes it so that you are healthy.
And right, it is Dave Asbury.
He's a four times New York Times bestselling author.
It's a longevity expert, creator of the biohacking movement.
Bulletproof coffee is one of his brands.
And by the way, Dave is headed to Austin, Texas, headed this way, where he's going to do a conference very soon at the Fairmont in Austin, Texas.
A bunch of guys, Dave, Jay Shetty, Arthur Brooks, Patrick Kennedy, and many more to talk about biohacking and, you know, feeling weird about your health.
What's up, Dave?
Well, lots of good stuff, but I'm not heading to Austin.
I live in Austin, so I'm a fellow Texan.
You do?
Oh, nice.
Well, this conference is headed to Austin.
How about that?
It's going to be in Austin, all these guys.
Yeah.
It's really fun to.
Go ahead, Dave.
Tell me about it.
And hear about your calcium score and all that.
And you're saying, well, you're really healthy for someone who hasn't been to the doctor in 10 years.
Maybe you're healthy because you didn't go to the doctor for 10 years, given the results we're getting from our medical system.
Oh, interesting.
My wife, who I think lives a healthier lifestyle than me, unfortunately.
unfortunately has, I hope she doesn't mind me saying that she has high cholesterol, you know,
and now they're talking to her about should she do a staten. I'm telling my wife eats like fish and
chicken. She doesn't eat a lot of red meat. She definitely cardio exercises more than I do.
So I'd love to take ownership for a bunch of smart choices. Here's the thing. They will make you feel,
Dave. I sat there that day and I thought, what kind of curve am I being graded on? Because by the way,
all these things don't matter, BMI or whatever. My BMI or whatever. My B or my BN.
my is 24. She's like, well, 25 is officially overweight. But she wasn't criticizing me. She was just
telling me these things. But I mean, I do think I think about it, Dave, a little bit, like what I
eat and how I exercise. There's a lot of things. If we just do all these things like excessive
cardio, eat all sorts of weird plants that no one ever ate unless they were starving to death,
and then we wonder why we're not healthy. And that's actually not how it works.
Cholesterol is what your hormones are made out of, and it's protective.
Your brain's made out of cholesterol.
So certain types of cholesterol, like oxidized cholesterol, are bad, but the idea that you
should have low cholesterol, the people who live beyond 100, they all have high cholesterol,
not low.
So we just have some assumptions built in, and the chicken and fish and weird veggies,
there's science that says that that isn't what made people strongest.
You go back 100 years in Texas, you think cowboys slept eight and a half hours a night and that they didn't have a rough life and that they ate a salad with kale and chickpeas or something? No. It was like beef, butter, lard. Yeah, they had some flour, right? And they lived a hard life and they did really well. And I think that we're missing some things. We've made a diet of weakness. It was a part of a balanced diet. A balanced diet doesn't include any junk food. But there's a
They're trying to normalize it for us, and it's making everybody sick.
All right.
Let's talk about food in just a second.
I do want to – let me walk through some – you know, having spent the day at the doctor
of what you find yourself.
As a curious person who, like, talks, you end up talking about the things that everybody's
talking about.
And I want to hit some of these topics with you as well.
So what I mean by that is we're all a prisoner to our algorithm.
We're all a prisoner to social media.
And I feel like the – so let's stick with cholesterol, okay?
HDL, LDL.
Everybody says, look, high LDL is no problem.
High HDL is a problem.
But I do see the counter narrative out there.
Don't take a statin.
Cholesterol is not that bad.
Is it sticky?
Is it getting in your arteries?
Is it calcifying?
All of that.
So what is your thought process on cholesterol?
All right.
I've gone really deep on mitochondrial biology.
And I run a group called Unlimited Life, which is a concierge's VIP longevity group.
People spend more than $100,000 a year to do.
work with me and a doctor with 30 years of experience and a bunch of coaches and we do
$40,000 with the lab work on everyone and I don't worry about high cholesterol.
I worry about oxidized cholesterol and if you're really thinking oh no my cholesterol
might be causing harm there's one lab test you can get that'll tell you if
cholesterol is damaging your arteries it's called LPLA 2 you can ask your doctor for
it and if you get that and it's zero it doesn't matter what your cholesterol is
if you have no damage to the lining of your arteries.
And there's two other tests that tell you
whether you're going to get a heart attack
way more than cholesterol.
One is called homocysteine,
and another one is called C-reactive protein.
And for 15 years, I've been teaching people
get those three numbers.
And if those are low, you're in good shape.
Let's take quick break,
but continue this conversation
with New York Times best-selling author
and longevity expert, Dave Asprey on Wilcane Country.
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Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
we're still hanging out with a four-time New York Times bestselling author,
a longevity expert, Dave Asprey.
So when I went, Dave, and this is a lot of my buddies talked about the Widowmaker,
this idea that you have a certain amount of blockage based upon sticky, you know, cholesterol,
sticky, plaque, that adds up to a calcium score, right?
And like I said, I came back at a zero.
Is that part of one of these tests you're talking about?
Do you care about a calcium score?
I do care about a calcium score.
What a calcium score does, it tells you how much plaque do you have that has calcium stabilizing it?
It turns out stabilized plaque is much less dangerous than soft plaque, and a calcium score doesn't tell you that.
You need a test called Clearly to see that one.
But you can get an idea of that from those three numbers I talked about, and you can get a test with any functional medicine or longevity doctor.
And we've been talking about this for 20 years.
If you say I'm going to take a statin, what you're doing is you're saying, oh, someone's on fire, let me turn off the smoke.
But the fire is still going.
And what the statins do is they cause your body to run out of co-inzyme Q10, so your mitochondria start making less energy.
So you're tired.
You get muscle pain.
And they're not associated with longevity.
So statins are not a great idea.
What you want to do is clean up your diet and start measuring the actual.
sources of inflammation. That cholesterol thing, we just look at that because 80 years ago,
it was easy to see cholesterol when you spun blood down. It was a yellow layer. So they just
focused on this. There's abundant evidence that it's not a great marker for heart disease.
And it makes a lot of people really mad in the medical industry, except I've lectured to thousands
of doctors about this and they're nodding their heads because they're longevity and functional
doctors. So we've got the people who are a little bit rebellious, who realize their patients were
getting well, they did additional studies outside of med school.
And this is licensed medical stuff.
And all of a sudden they're saying, wait, this is what works.
And that's one reason that at the biohacking conference here in May, we're offering continuing
medical education credits for doctors who come in, even though it's a conference for people
to come in and figure out how do I change my biology, how do I change my state, to be happier
or to live longer, and just to be more conscious.
So how the heck would that be tied in with longevity?
Well, it turns out the best doctors, they care about whether you're happy.
They care about whether you have community.
They care about what you eat.
Oh, and maybe you need some drugs.
But the drugs come last, not first.
You go to the normal doctor, drugs, drugs, drugs all day long.
And it's no wonder we don't get results.
You said, clean up your diet.
What about this?
I often hear this.
Well, it's all genetic.
And I kind of alluded to that with the differences between me and my wife.
I mean, even on the processed foods, like if it's not the red meat, when you say clean up your diet,
I'm going to assume you're talking about processed foods.
You know what?
I probably eat a lot more processed foods than my wife.
So how much of this is solvable and how much of it is genetic?
I'm going to argue that it's all solvable and a lot of it's genetic.
And we do an advanced screen at a limited life for genetics.
And about 20% of our members have something called APO4 versus APO3.
And if you have APO4, which is a mutation, you have a much, much higher chance of getting heart disease
and Alzheimer's. So for those people, we manage it aggressively. And for everyone else, they have
more flexibility. So genetics matters, but something called epigenetics matters more. And this is
how do you use your environment, the color of the light, the time you go to bed, the temperature
of the air, the type of food you eat, your social connection, everything in your environment,
how do you use that to turn your genes on or off? As long as you have a gene, it's not set in
stone. It's can I switch it and the environment switches it and unfortunately we've kind of
trashed our food environment, our indoor environments aren't good. We're telling people to take
things that aren't healthy for them like these artificial colors, all these processed foods, the
seed oils. And it's no wonder that that's flipping our genetic switches to cause higher risk.
And so if you set up your environment right, all of a sudden you have a ton more energy and then
you get better sleep. And everything in your life starts to line up in a better
way because when you have more energy you are more present it also means you
make more conscious better decisions and that could even go for well do I take
the time to think about this policy or do I just say oh that poor person you
know let me just screw up my country because I'd have a chance to think
about it I just felt about it because I was too tired to think and that's what's
going on in America right now right a lot of people our brains are cooked because
of the way we set up our schools our workplace
and our diets.
Go back to the light thing.
That was fascinating to me.
You said our light.
Like what kind of light, I'm sure it varies according to the situation.
Just tell me more about how light impacts energy and health.
This is such a big thing.
So we have this environmental movement that's willing to sacrifice human wellness in the name of reducing carbon.
And unfortunately, these LED lights that are energy efficient,
they are actively toxic to your mitochondria.
So I'm wearing these glasses.
These block a certain part of the blue light.
These are called true dark glasses.
And yeah, it's a brand that I make, and I wear them all the time.
That's why people probably recognize me.
And I wear them indoors.
Because indoor lighting today has none of the good parts of light,
and it has all of the bad parts.
And a lot of the blue light is causing macular degeneration.
People don't know it, but LED lights are more associated with melanoma
than the sunburn you got in Mexico.
So indoor lighting is bad.
You can have junk light and you can have natural spectrum light.
So in my house, it's all incandescent or halogen.
And it changes the way you feel.
It changes the way you sleep.
And it makes your skin healthier and your eyes healthier.
Are you, where are you on sunglasses?
Like that's it.
I told you I'm going to hit some of these things everybody talks about.
You know, there's this, there's this idea you shouldn't wear sunglasses outside.
The reason you don't wear sunglasses, it makes a lot of sense.
So your eyes are sensing what kind of light is there?
Is there ultraviolet B in the light?
Ultraviolet B is necessary for your eyes and for your skin.
Too much of it's bad.
But if you block it in your eyes,
then of course your brain isn't going to tell your skin to protect itself.
So the eyes tell the body, here's what to do in this environment.
So these glasses that tell your brain it's dark outside
and your skin says it's light outside, your skin won't protect itself.
So you're less likely to get a bad sunburn if you don't have sunglasses on.
because at least your body has a warning sign.
So you need to be able to sense it and then react.
And if you cut off your senses,
you're telling your body you're in a darker environment when you're not.
Okay, where are you on sunscreen?
Sunscreen is one of the biggest scams on the planet.
It increases your risk of skin cancer because of the ingredients in it.
It goes into your blood almost instantly when you put it around.
And it's about a $28 billion industry.
So it's no wonder they're going to tell you ultraviolet light.
Oh, no, it's going to kill you.
studies show exposure to ultraviolet light means you're less likely to be nearsighted.
So being indoors all the time, covering your skin, your skin needs this.
Ultraviolet light actually reduces wrinkles in your skin when you get a moderate dose.
Sunburns are bad for you. You shouldn't do what you did in Mexico.
But sun exposure is necessary for healthy skin, healthy mitochondria, healthy mitochondria, healthy mitochondria.
And getting sunlight in the morning makes you sleep better at night.
And when you coat your skin in sunscreen, you're not doing yourself any favors, except you can use mineral sunscreen that doesn't have any bad stuff in it.
You want to put that on your face?
Go for it.
If you're worried about wrinkles, just don't put it on all the time.
So if I'm in Mexico, I'm going to put some mineral sunscreen on my face, maybe the back of my hands.
And if I start getting pink, I'll put on a shirt.
And that's that.
So you'll just, you'll cover up or get out of the sun.
instead of staying in the sun and wearing sunscreen.
Exactly.
And let's face it, if I'm surfing, I'm going to put on sunscreen,
but it's going to be a mineral sunscreen that's going to wash off after an hour or two
and you put it back on, just like the chemical stuff.
But the chemical stuff really is disruptive.
If you look at the ingredients and you just go to any AI and you say,
what are the negative side effects, you'll be shocked.
So, yeah, you can use it for extreme situations, skiing, surfing all day in the sun,
but nothing like a hat and a shirt.
and no sunglasses to change how your body responds.
Let's go back to first premises for a moment.
So you use the word longevity, and that's what you focus on.
Like, what are we talking about when it comes to longevity?
Are we talking about significant, are we talking, I'm sure you're going to say both,
but the quality of life, longer, but also the length of life.
Are we talking about human beings?
What are we at right now?
Are we probably 78, like an average lifespan for an American?
For an American, that's about right. The Japanese are up there in the mid-80s. And that's average.
But our current best is about 122. And my goal is at least 180. And if someone on the planet can do
122, I just want us to be able to do 50% better. We get 100 years to work on that. And we've got
AI and big data and more access to tools than peptides. I've done four kinds of gene therapy
already for longevity.
So what we're talking about is the kind of cowards like,
oh, we want to do health span.
We just want you to be healthy until you die at the age of 78.
That is an insult to humanity.
We want you to be healthy until you die at the age you choose.
So the people in my longevity practice,
we're looking at adding 10, 20, 30 years to people's lives.
And it's possible.
And we actually have 600 data points we're put in
together, well, here's how long you're likely to live based on your genetics, your biology, your
current state, and your current practice.
Let's change what you do.
And let's extend your life.
And this is actually possible today.
This is what longevity doctors actually do.
But many doctors are afraid to say, we are looking to extend human life.
But that's what we all want, and that's what we're doing.
Okay, let me see if I heard you correctly.
You feel like right now, Dave, you could take a patient and extend that patient.
say it's me, okay? I'm 50. Do you think you could work with me in whatever it is you do,
diet, all the different changes, everything, and you could change my lifespan by 10, 20 years?
Yes.
Today, we could put that plan in place?
Oh, absolutely. That's what we do.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. And then you're saying, though within a hundred years,
you think you'll have people, we will have people at society.
Maybe you'll be around in a hundred years, Dave, I don't know.
We'll have people living to 180 in 100 years?
Yes, absolutely.
Unless a comet hits the planet or there's some sort of very weird black swan event
that's affecting our whole species, like some kind of plague or something
made in Wuhan or somewhere.
I don't know.
But here's why we've already extended human life by about six and a half years in the U.S.
You ever see the show Golden Girls?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They were in their mid-50s.
They were not in their 70s or 80s.
I know.
Back in the 90s.
I see those videos sometimes like Wilford, Wilford Brimley in like Coon was my age or younger, maybe, 48.
Exactly.
Right.
So we have this idea that aging is wheelchairs and tubes and diapers and not known your name,
but that's actually not what healthy aging looks like.
I used to weigh 300 pounds when I was in my mid-20s, and nothing worked.
I had brain fog, arthritis, chronic fatigue, just everything wrong.
Yet I was a successful tech entrepreneur.
And so I started hanging out with people in their 70s and 80s at the first longevity nonprofit in Palo Alto.
And eventually they asked me to run the nonprofit.
There was no one there who was under 50 except for me.
And what I learned was that there are 80-year-olds who
are vibrant and had more energy than I did at the time.
And we can do this.
It just takes knowing what to do and then actually doing it.
And that's what inspired me to create the biohacking movement.
That's why I'm around 7% body fat right now.
I'm never hungry.
My exercise is 20 minutes a week using AI, and I'm ripped.
And it's completely.
ridiculous that this is possible, but everyone isn't doing it, and we don't do it because we don't
think it's possible. And even back in the... You just exercise 20 minutes a week? That's all you exercise?
Yeah. I'm not saying I don't go for a walk, but that's all I do. I mean, I'm wearing a shirt
you can't really... Is that a walk? Yeah, I'll go for a walk. You know, I'll move around a little bit,
but literally, why do I do that? Because if you do a spin class, you know, spandex shorts and some
someone yelling at you in the front, shame-based,
I gotta stand up on the bike
because everyone else is standing up.
That, if you do five hours a week of just sweaty hell,
you'll improve by 2% after a couple of months
of intense training.
You come to my facilities and we do something called,
it's called the AI bike and five minutes, three times a week.
So 15 minutes a week versus five hours,
we'll give you a 12% improvement.
So the amount of time you spend brushing your teeth
every week is all the cardio you need
if you do it exactly the right way.
So why would I spend five hours exercising
when I could do 15 minutes?
And to put on muscle, I could pick up a kettlebell,
which is the same as picking up a rock from 500 years ago,
or I could fight an AI computer that's watching me
on a camera and measuring everything I do.
So I'm completely fully at my failure point
the entire time I'm doing a curl.
So I blow my muscles out really quickly.
And then I'm done in five or 10 minutes.
then my body recovers.
So most of us, we think more training equals more results.
It doesn't.
It's stimulating the body a little bit, and then more recovery so the body will actually put
on muscle.
And in the case of your wife, who sounds like she's doing a lot of cardio, well, if you train
your body to believe that you're being hunted and that you didn't get away, because
you did one interval, then another, then another, then another, an hour later, the
body's like, why would I ever recover?
I'm being hunted right now.
So cardio is important.
Excessive cardio is actually bad for longevity and it's bad for aging.
So you want to have good VO2 max, but you don't want to be running all the time because the body doesn't like that.
Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with New York Times bestselling author and longevity expert Dave Asprey on Will Kane Country.
Welcome back to Will Kane Country.
We're still hanging out with a four-time New York Times bestselling author, a longevity expert, Dave Asprey.
So a minute ago, I heard you say, you know, Cowboys didn't sleep eight hours a night.
So are you also not big on, like, as I listen to you, then you can cut out processed foods,
exercise to the point of failure, but it doesn't take so long to get to the point of failure from exercise building and recover.
But then, am I hearing you incorrectly?
Like, you actually don't think we need as much sleep as we get or want to get?
We've all heard eight hours, right?
Yeah.
There's three studies of over a million people over multiple years questioning whether that's true.
And here's the reality.
The people who need six and a half hours of sleep a night are the people who live the longest.
If you require eight hours to fully recover every night, your chances of dying from all causes are much higher than the guy who only needs six and a half hours.
And this isn't to say that you should restrict your sleep.
That's a bad idea.
Healthy people need less sleep.
Who would have thought?
But if you go and you work out really hard.
Yeah.
So eat right.
Don't over train.
And magically, you need less sleep.
And with all the books I've written, people have lost millions and millions of pounds.
And they routinely report, I need an hour less sleep.
What's going on?
Well, what's going on is you got your energy back.
back. Your metabolism is working again. You're healthier. So your body says, I'm fully recovered.
Time to wake up. If you get an hour back every day, imagine what you could do.
What about alcohol? I mean, I wear a whoop. I don't have it on right now because the battery died.
I can see my recovery on whatever whoop measures when I have one drink. Where are you on alcohol?
You know, I will drink alcohol if it's older than me. That's my rule. In other words,
I can't afford to drink under those rules more than once or twice a year.
So I just don't drink, as is the basic way to put it.
The reason is exactly what you said.
One drink ruined your sleep.
Anyone who has a sleep tracker will know this, but it gets more interesting.
Alcohol is also heavily associated with getting cancer and with aging your tissues.
So alcohol makes you old via known mechanisms.
And if I was going to drink, I would use the protocol I published more than 10 years ago.
You just go to Dave Asprey.com and alcohol, and it'll be the.
there. And you can take things to help your liver process the alcohol better. And that means you
take less of a hit. But bottom line is, if you need a glass of wine to go to sleep, you should get
some supplements that do the same thing and don't make you older every night and ruin the
quality of your sleep. So I'd rather have five hours of ethic sleep than eight hours of crappy sleep.
Right. So we see the studies. I see the stats. We know that THC use is on the rise. THC is delivered
in all any kind of mechanism that you want at this point.
You can drink it, you can eat it, you can smoke it, you can do whatever.
Where are you on THC?
Well, I'm glad that it's legal because I don't think the government has a right to tell us
what we're allowed to put in our bodies.
But the data is pretty clear on THC.
Smoking it or smoking anything is bad for you, but THC is estrogenic.
So if you like man boobs, lack of motivation, and from the Aymn clinics, Dr. Amin,
is a world famous author and psychiatrist who's studied more than a million brains.
He will show you hundreds of thousands of scans of cannabis users' brains, and there's holes
in their brains metabolically.
And I'm on the board of Aymond clinics, known very well.
This is real data.
So bottom line is, THC, it might be useful for you recreationally on rare occasions, but if you
need that to go to sleep, you're probably doing it wrong.
And there are a subset of people with weird seizure disorders where it's,
life-changing, and I just recognize that. That's why we can't ban something, because if it helps
one person, we shouldn't be able to ban it. We just tell everyone else, hey, it may not be for you.
But would I rather see people on THC alcohol? THC is less harmful than alcohol, but psychedelic mushrooms
are less harmful than THC. So why are some of these legal and some of these illegal? It makes
no sense whatsoever. They should just tax them all. Okay, I want to, like I said, do you have to be,
I want to ask you about a lot of things I feel like everybody's talking about. So let's just keep going.
these are a curiosity of me.
Let's go back to diet for a minute.
So, you know, I was in pretty good shape a year ago,
and there's no better motivator, at least for me, than vanity.
You know, I do this open water swim.
I do it on Fox.
I'll have my shirt off, you know, so what I was doing was,
and I do try to do this pretty consistently,
but again, when you're going to be on TV with your shirt off,
then you start really counting.
high protein low calorie that's what i would try to get i tried to get anywhere from 150 to 170 grams
of protein basically a gram or so per pound and then stay done try to stay under 2,000 2200 calories
um i will say at the doctor she saw she thought that was way too high she thought um that whatever
there was some protein leakage in my kidneys she that's probably from the quantity of protein
that you are consuming so everybody knows at this point
don't eat processed foods. Whether or not we do it or not, I think we all know the Cheetos and the
chimichanga, not great. But where are you on that macro nutrient thing of high protein, low calorie?
The easiest thing you can do before you try Ozympic or one of those things, just take one
gram of animal protein per pound of body weight, and beef is better than chicken or fish for that.
I eat a pound every by every day. I weigh about 200 pounds. I eat 200 grams. I'm not
200 grams of ribide, 200 grams of protein, which is closer to, oh, about 500 grams of...
What's your calorie intake?
My calorie intake is probably 2,900 a day.
And I can show you my app.
Okay, so you're way up there.
Oh, yeah.
My last book cover, the short off of the thing, I didn't prep for it.
I got off an airplane with no fasting, no anything, and I shot it, and I look like I play water polo and I don't.
So calories are not a bad thing because calories just measure energy.
If your body can use energy, you'll be great.
And get this, I'm not even low carb.
I just eat carbs that don't cause inflammation.
So I eat white rice, I eat honey, I eat fruit, and I eat steak, and I eat butter.
And I eat some olive oil.
And I eat some veggies, but not a ton and not the weird ones.
Not the, we'll call them the hippie vegetables that became popular in the 70s and 80s from the California marketing of,
eat the rainbow.
Your ancestors didn't eat the rainbow.
The rainbow doesn't grow all the time.
They, whatever was there, which is usually a couple different veggies that are in season.
And they only ate those if there was no meat.
Wait, what are the weird ones?
What are the weird ones?
Cale is very weird.
At Pizza Hut, they put it around the salad, not in the salad, until the kale marketing
association spent $6 million convincing us that kale was somehow good for us.
Cale accumulates toxic metals more than almost any other plant we eat, especially one called thalium.
and it has a really big problem called oxalate.
And I've been writing a lot on my blog lately
about removing this toxic plant compound from your diet.
So our grandparents, they were a little suspicious
of broccoli and cauliflower, but you might get them to eat it.
Otherwise, a little bit of coleslaw,
you had some potatoes, some rice,
and they had a piece of meat, and that's what they ate.
And it seemed to work really well.
The reason we eat white rice instead of brown rice
is that brown rice is covered
in all the plant defense compounds.
The reason the whole wheat is stupid is that the brown part of the wheat has a ton of this oxalate compound in it.
That oxalate compound goes into your body, finds calcium, and forms microscopic razor-sharp crystals that cause 70% of kidney stones.
And they cause problems with your skin, problems with your joint, gout.
It's incredible what happens when you don't eat the brown grains.
If you're going to have carbs, have the white flour, have the white rice.
there's a reason that the kings and queens and royalty ate the white stuff and they fed the brown stuff to the peasants
it's because the brown stuff has more calories and more toxins but they didn't care about the peasants health and it's the same thing big food you don't mean like wonder bread you don't mean like wonder bread like wonder bread like
I would rather eat wonder bread before I'd eat some kind of wonderbread brown whole weed equivalent but I'm not going to eat either one of those I don't think American gluten is edible anymore because of all the glyphosate we spray on it
But when I'm in France, yeah, I'm going to eat some croissants, but not they would make them with brown, brown, whole wheat flour, because they're not dumb.
It's like, they say, what's the French paradox?
You've harkened back to, like, what people used to do several times.
Like you said cowboys, you said kings.
But, okay.
Okay.
But aren't our lifespans a lot longer, despite the fact that we have started eating the way we have?
And I'm not defending current diets.
I think that, but I don't, is going backwards to those diets?
Like, our lives are longer now.
Isn't there something to be said for our health compared to what's that?
That's a great question.
And the number one answer to that is just public health hygiene, cleaning up our water so we don't die of parasites.
Making sure that we don't have things like mercury in our food, which was very common back then, is a really good idea.
So most of these big diseases, even things like polio, polio went away.
way five years before the polio vaccine came out.
And it's because of public health measures.
So having clean water is really, really important
if you want to increase human lifespan, right?
And so what we've been doing is we've been replacing
the things that kill us because we get an infection.
Things like antibiotics will extend human life.
If you were going to die of a splinter in your finger,
which used to kill people if you got the wrong bacteria,
doesn't kill you anymore.
So we've solved the acute, important go to the hospital now stuff.
And we're really good at that.
And that's what hospitals are for.
But we replaced it with this chronic malaise
where we just feel bad all the time
and our brains are foggy and our joints hurt.
We have diabetes, right?
And we have Alzheimer's and we have heart disease.
Those weren't the problems back then
because the bacteria would get us first.
But what we've replaced it with is kind of this half awake,
feeling like crap all the time state.
And hospitals don't even understand that.
Doctors get an hour of education.
At least they did until,
Bobby Kennedy came in. He just announced that all doctors are getting 200 hours of nutrition
training now, just a big announcement with Maha. And that's going to change the world. Because
up till this day, unless they're an open-minded doctor, they are taught in medical school that
food doesn't affect health. And we all know that's complete garbage, but that's what they're taught.
And they have a white lab coat, and they're certified, and they have a prescription pads.
So we tend to believe them, even though they're not trained.
Okay, I want to ask you about two other things.
One of them is personal in that I know where you stand on this.
So nicotine, okay, I am, and the audience knows it, I am a very active user of nicotine in the pouches.
Okay, I'm addicted.
I don't have, I mean, that's the truth.
I don't like being addicted to something, you know, but I'm not an, I'm a curious person
it researches a lot. So I can rattle off stuff about a slight increase of high blood pressure.
Of course, I know the stuff about focus. I also know that it people say this, you know,
next to heroin, it's the most addictive drug out there, which I've never done heroin.
But yeah, it's the most addictive thing that I've ever touched, you know.
But so I talked to the doctor a lot about it. And I just said, do you see anything?
I want to know anything that's showing up in my charts at all that could be a
attributable to nicotine. And really, they don't. But I also feel like we're at the front end of
this. Like, what are we going to find out about these pouches in five to ten years?
All right. I've gone really deep on this. And going back about 15 years, I discovered a doctor
at Vanderbilt who published a paper in 1986 showing that nicotine, not smoking, but pharmaceutical
nicotine like is in those pouches reduces Alzheimer's and Parkinson's risk. But unfortunately,
smoking increases cancer so you don't want to do that so I am not a fan of
smoking I've never smoked so back then I started taking one milligram a day
and I wrote about this in my New York Times best-selling longevity book saying
guys if you're 40 there's a clear case for low dose nicotine because it's
going to stop you or at least reduce the odds of you getting Alzheimer's and
Parkinson's and those take out a lot of us if we're gonna be really really old
because you don't want to be old and not know your name and be shaken a lot
Of course.
So since nicotine is one of the most studied cognitive enhancers that we have, so you get a brain that works better and you get less risk of this.
But what we also know is that it's one of the strongest mitochondrial uncouplers there is.
And what?
Well, what that means is it makes it easier for your cells to make heat and power for your body.
So yes, low dose pharmaceutical nicotine, lichen pouches and gums and patches, all those things,
It is good for you and I've been using it for 15 years.
There is an upper limit though.
And if you're under 10.
What is that?
How about 64 milligrams a day?
It might be a little hot.
If you do under 10 per day, you're much, much less likely to get addicted and it's the
same amount of addiction as coffee.
So three day washout period.
But if you start going above 10 regularly, then you get physiological addiction.
And there may be some psychological.
as well. It's the physiological, though. If you're at 64 and you go cold turkey, you will have a
dysfunctional brain, you'll have muscle tension about your body, and it totally sucks, which is why
you ramp down if you're doing high doses. And here's the downside for some people of high doses.
The blood pressure increase for most people isn't a big deal, because it's nominal. But some people
experience hair loss because nicotine shrinks the microcapularies enough that you might not get enough
to the head. There's easy ways to counteract that if that starts happening. And a small number of
people get erectile dysfunction from large doses of nicotine. So if you're not experiencing either
one of those. Well, it's a vaso constrictor, right? It's a vaso constrictor. I just saw an Instagram
real of this doctor, my wife sent it to me, saying it can lead to degenerative spine because you are
not, you're not getting the blood necessary because it's a vaso constrictor to rehabilitate.
any type of, you know, small injury. Any type of small injury that happens doesn't get healed
the way it should because you're constricting your blood delivery all the time with this nicotine.
I really question that. I've seen that interview. It's the only person talking about that who's
not a biochemist, but is a surgeon of spines and definitely got a lot of clicks. Here's why.
Nicotine increases something called angiogenesis. This is the growth of new capillaries, new blood
vessels throughout the body and you need those it's actually beneficial as you age to be
able to grow new blood vessels so yes there is vasal constriction but that causes you to grow
more paths to deliver nutrients to cells so I'm a huge fan of 10 maybe 20 I think
you might be a little high at 64 but I know people who do really well on that does
and yeah it's addictive but so is exercise if you don't do it you don't feel as good
so is drinking water so some things are worth it
And I mean, God knows coffee is the other one.
If you were to look at the two most studied, most impactful on the evolution of society,
well, it's been coffee, it's been nicotine.
I keep doing this because I have a caffeine tattoo right here on my bicep.
You just can't see it somewhere in a long-sleeve shirt.
So caffeine is well studied, coffee is well studied, and so is nicotine.
You go back to World War II.
We had an entire supply line set up to make sure that our troops had nicotine and they had coffee.
We're roasting coffee on the front lines during World War II because it's that important for people.
Same with nicotine.
All great books, including mine, are written on caffeine and nicotine.
That's just how it works.
So we're not dumb.
And the fact that we like to use these things, it's because they have a lot of benefits when you deliver them in the right way.
And speaking of coffee.
Okay, last two things.
Go ahead.
My new brand post-billop proof is called Danger Coffee.
And it's called Danger because who knows what you might do.
and it's called danger.
So the next time
some weird person with a mask
tries to approach you
and put it on your face
and say it's for your own safety
I say no things I choose danger.
Like I do not want someone
to tell me to do things
my own safety.
I'm going to drink my danger coffee
and be happy with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the mask,
the dirty little secrets,
they're not worried about your own self.
They use it as a weapon
to control you
because you're endangering their health.
So you choose danger?
Oh, you're hurting me.
Yeah.
Really quickly,
I want to ask you about two
two other things before we go.
Yep.
Peptides.
I know this is a big category, and it's one that I know nothing about.
All I know is that my teenage sons now talk about peptides.
So that tells me this is a gigantic trend.
I've been using them for past 16 years now, and they're incredibly powerful.
And today we have about 500 different peptides out there, and they feel kind of edgy because you have to inject most of them.
And I would just say, be careful.
These are very powerful.
And as for teenagers, most of them I probably wouldn't want to use.
But there are things like GHK that allow your skin to be healthier, your connective tissue to be healthier.
BPC helps you heal really rapidly from injuries.
And in the longevity group that I work with, we use peptides all the time for longevity.
But I think it's a bad idea to go buy a dozen of them and just start sticking yourself with needles.
at least work with an AI that's competent to help you come up with the right order of peptides.
But if you were to go spend a couple hundred bucks on something to improve your health,
spend it on rib eye first, or at least ground beef.
And after your diet's cleaned up, take your supplements.
Things like vitamin dake, minerals one-on-one, fat soluble things, getting enough minerals.
And after that, go for the peptides.
Pick the three that seem most interesting and try them.
And if they rock your world, do it.
If you'd have had one of my favorites, which is called Malamination,
melanotan, you inject a little bit of this stuff, and then you get a tan in one day.
So I don't get sunburned because I inject the stuff and I get a nice dark tan and almost no exposure to sun.
Then I go in the sun, I have a protective tan.
And the side effect of melanotan is it makes you really, really horny.
So, oh, no, I got sunshine and I felt like I was 22 again for a day.
And then I'm protected.
Googlying melanotan.
let me write that down.
So, okay, last thing, on the GOP-1s,
yes.
I live in Dallas, so let Dallas live up to its reputation.
But I bet it's not just Dallas.
I think that everybody is, like, it's all over at this point.
And the question for the GLP-1 world will be,
what does this look like in 5, 10, 20 years, right?
What is the long-term effect of,
of these GLP1 uses.
So what do you think about, Zympic, Wagovi, everything?
As a former fat person, 300 pounds,
lost 100 of it using the stuff I write about.
Being fat sucks and it's dangerous.
So by any means necessary, get rid of that
because it reduces your risk.
And I'm a huge supporter of GLP ones.
I would just propose that you do what we just talked about.
Eat your one gram of protein, even if you don't want to,
per pound of body weight.
If you do that and you pick up
some heavy stuff twice a week, you will lose weight quickly and reliably and not lose your muscles
and not lose your bone density. So five, 10, 15 years from now, there's going to be one group
of people who laid on a couch and ate nachos on GLP ones, and they're going to hate their lives.
And the rest of us will be micro-dosing GLP ones because they're longevity drugs at low doses
and their weight loss drugs at high doses. So I'm incredibly excited at the category. I've used
one injection of Ozzympic when it first came on the market for weight loss just to do a podcast
on it. And I tried microdosing one of the other GLP ones, but it just makes me nauseous all the time. So I don't
do it, but I wish I could. And most of the longevity physicians I work with are on micro doses of
GLP ones to live longer, reduce Alzheimer's and other risks. All right. What a fascinating conversation.
Dave Asprey. He lives in Austin, but the Beyond Biohacking Conference will be there.
on May 27th through 29th at the Fairmont in Austin, Texas,
and you can check out any of his number of books or coffee,
danger coffee, bulletproof, all of these things.
We really appreciate you spending time with us today.
Dave, it's been a fascinating conversation.
Will it is a lot of fun.
All right.
I hope to talk to you again.
Dave Asprey there on Will King Country.
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And then there was one helmet on the table.
It's all had meaning.
I don't know if you noticed throughout the program,
but it went down to three.
It was TCU and Georgia and Texas.
Then it was two.
It was TCU in Texas.
Wow.
Okay.
Now it's just Texas.
And it's not a reference to Texas making the Sweet 16,
which was awesome.
Texas going from the first,
4 in has already made it's way to 316 but i got a longhorn officially i got a long horn
one son headed off to austin next year be proud pretty excited about that means i get to go to
austin um no offense i just didn't want to travel to athens okay i was like i can't get to
athens that easily what a nice three-hour drive to austin that'll yeah for sure patrick there's
going to be some weekends. I got to be down there and I got to be there before. Yeah, I think we should
definitely do some shows on the road. What if we had like a pregame show? Like a Saturday morning
pregame show? Heck yeah. That would be awesome. I won't wear any Texas gear, but I'll go.
I've actually had that in my kind of want to list, like a Saturday football show. On the other
hand, I don't want to work. So we got to balance that. I don't want to work on Saturday mornings.
But a Saturday morning pregame show would be pretty awesome.
awesome in the fall.
Oh, come on.
You have the experience.
Once a month.
If anybody can do a Saturday morning show, it's you.
Yeah, but that's what I wasn't doing a TV show Monday through Friday.
Will and Pete live from DKR.
State.
Secretary of War and Will.
I think he's graduated beyond that.
It might be busy.
Over on Facebook, Danny V. says L.A.X this morning was a breeze faster than usual.
And Sherry Behan,
Shearie Bein,
Sherry Bein says,
went through Atlanta this morning,
no problem,
lots of police presence
in Fort Myers Airport.
So maybe airport's a little bit better,
starting today.
Cindy Marie says pretty simple,
Republicans refuse to fund TSA.
Huh.
And Marine O'Connell says the same.
Republicans have the ability
to put TSA back to work.
It's so crazy.
This is,
I,
I'm trying to think of a good analogy on how you play this game.
But like, let's see, Democrats refuse to fund DHS, right, over ICE.
Didn't they say Republicans, why don't you just fund this, just fund that?
So you back it into where you get exactly what you want.
You don't fund it all, and you'll shut down everything in order to not fund ICE.
And then you'll blame it on Republicans for not funding these things individually
because you don't want to take blame for that.
By the way, ICE is going to be working airports, according to President Donald Trump.
That might be why the L.A. X-lines are better.
All the illegals are staying home.
Brian Moore says abolish the TSA.
Trading freedom for security is unpatriotic.
Well, I mean, I think we do need some measure of security, Brian.
Like, each airport has the wrong?
Like, not federal?
He's just saying, no, no safety.
But what about that?
Well, I will say, we all know the TSA.
Look, somebody said it well.
It's security theater.
It's not...
It's a half-patt-down.
It's all a joke, man.
My iPad needs to come out.
Come on.
Like, really?
Shoes off.
My iPad needs to come out.
The shoes off thing feels like it's going away a little bit.
They're starting to let you walk through shoes.
Unless he has boots.
Is it totally gone away?
Yeah, I didn't have to take my shoes off.
Like taking your laptop out, like, what are we doing?
It's just, yeah, it's all ridiculous.
We should have a TSA agent on.
And yet there's got to be something.
There's got to be something.
All right.
Suzanne Nico says, I feel extremely lied to now about Will's height, L.O.L.
I was a little disappointed.
I knew I was somewhere, I have said before, guys, on between 6-1 and 6-2, but I would thought I was
closer to 6-2.
being 6.1 and 3 8s was a bit of a letdown.
Five days would have been in line with what I thought.
Did you say 6.3?
I never said 6.3. I said 6.3, but I lie. I'm really 6.2 and a half. Or like 62 at a quarter.
Have you, you know how they measured me is one of these deals you stand on? It's so weird.
And you just stand there for a minute. And it gives you your height, weight, fat, percentage, you know, BMI.
I'm like, they're just sending electricity through me and getting all this right now?
This is crazy.
Jay-I.
So we've got to get you on that, Dan, find out if you really are.
Like, I don't accept anybody's self-decloration anymore.
What percentage of people lie?
I don't think I was lying.
I don't think I was lying.
I think I was rounding up slightly.
Now, Patrick, I was rounding up.
That's not embellishing.
I was rounding up.
But now I don't feel like I can.
round up. Six one and three eights you don't get to round up. So it has to be, because it's like a kid.
Like, it's like a kid. A kid says, when you say to a kid, how old are you? And they're like,
I'm seven and a half. Like, nobody cares about the half. You're seven or you're eight. No one care.
You don't walk around going on six one and a half. The half feels gratuitous. But you can't say you're
six one. So I just round. Because you're not. I can't. Yeah, you're, you should say six two
because you're taller than 6-1.
You know what I mean?
So if you're going by that metric, you should say 6-2.
He's closer to 6-1 than 6-2.
But it doesn't matter because he's over 6-1.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's not...
It's generous.
You can't take away.
Now, if I played baseball, I'd round down now.
Right?
If I played baseball, we'd definitely say 6-1.
Do you think...
Okay, here's the story.
Patrick, you can share with this.
With the automatic strike zone that is out right now,
it's the AI computer strike zone that measures what is it shoulders to knees and the appropriate width of the plate right
with that they've had to get an accurate they've had to get an accurate height of all the players
and it's revealed how many players were lying about their heights before and there's some massive swings
tell me some of the biggest swings in baseball like what were how much were people lying about
height. So Gavin Lux, formerly of the Dodgers, I believe he's now with the raise, claimed he was
6 foot 2. He is now 5 foot 11. That's a pretty big drop. That's brutal. Pretty big drop. So a 3-inch
inflation. Now, by the way, he has an incentive now to go low, but he doesn't get to, right?
Because they're forcing them to get accurate heights. Yeah. So the measurement is you have to be
barefoot, no hats, knees exposed, heels together, back flat against the wall, no slouching,
and you have to be measured between 10 a.m. and noon because your body, you know, over,
over the course of a day, will be taller and or shorter.
Let's do this for dating.
What did you go to your, your, uh, your physical?
I think I had it in the morning. Yeah, between 10 a minute. Oh, so that's just not going to factor in.
Okay. Yeah, I think you're taller in the morning. So, it was an all day physical, but they did that in the
morning. I was just, I was thinking maybe, maybe you are closer to six two and maybe it was just a little
was a daytime thing, you know, it was later in the afternoon, maybe, you know, I was trying to give
you a little benefit of that. I might have been three or four hours. I might have been three or four
hours into the day. So I don't know how quick the shrinkage starts. We'll give six two. Someone is asking
in the, in the chat, metaphoric is asking, how can you lie about your height in pro sports?
How is that a lot? Ask Bryce Young. What do you mean? Like, how can you just lie? Like, don't you have to be
an official size?
I don't know.
I think it's submitted by the team, though.
There's no league oversight of this.
Right. Well, like in high school...
Who has an incentive to tell the truth?
Like, high school basketball team's always inflate by, like, three inches.
So you come in and you look at the roster.
Absolutely.
Oh, everyone's 6.5 and 611?
Like, no.
Yeah.
So we have some stars who got caught, by the way.
Alex Bregman are the Cubs?
He went from six feet tall two years ago, and he's now 510.
Come on, come on, Alex.
Price Harper.
Everybody knew.
You know, who was almost the star of the World Baseball Classic.
He went from 6-3 to 6-1.
See, that'd be a bummer.
But like the worst one, the worst one to me is Bo Nailer of the Guardians who went from six feet to 5-9.
That's a big difference.
That's tough.
Six feet to 5-9.
Well, that's a big difference because, like, so Harper went from 6-3 to 6-1.
I can't really tell.
But here's the deal.
That's what I was going to say.
Like, a 3-inch inflation is ridiculous.
But going from 6 foot to 5-9, is that what it was?
6-foot to 5-9 for Naylor, you jumped classes, right?
You didn't just inflate.
Like, Bryce Harper didn't drop a class.
Right.
We all know these informal classes in our head, right?
6-3-6-1, you're in the same class, whatever that is.
You're not, you're just tall.
When you say, if you're 6-1 or 6-3, you're tall, if you're over 6-3, right?
If you're 6-4, 6-5, what are you, you're like really tall, like really tall?
And then if you're like 6-6, you're a basketball player, kind of, right?
In the class.
6-4 and over is tall, tall.
Is 5-9 short?
Like a 5-9 guy is short.
But it's the country average.
Do you know that?
I know. That was like five.
I know. That's the thing.
Five nine is the country average.
But think about it, you're not going to get a woman.
Be honest.
They play by the games as sixes, right?
You have to be six feet tall, six figures.
What was the other?
Oh, never one.
Oh, six four, six figures.
Right, right. Six figures.
And there was another one. I can't remember.
Like, no woman, no woman would punish Bryce Harper for going from six three to six one.
But if Naylor had on his dating profile six and showed up at 5-9, he's got a problem on that day.
He better have lifts.
Right?
He better have lifts in his shoes.
Out of here.
That's, I mean, that's tough.
I don't understand that.
So I was talking to my wife and her friends about this over the weekend.
They were dating and guys would lie about their height all the time, mainly from six feet down to like five, six, five, seven.
They would actually be when they said they were six feet.
Like, how do you not just know you're going to show?
up and they're going to realize you're completely lying.
Like, your personality is going to just wash away the fact that you lied about how it's all you were.
Yeah.
That's cool.
That's what that dude is telling him.
That's what he's telling himself.
He's like, I'm funny enough where if she just gives me a chance, she won't care that I'm four inches shorter than I said.
That's what he's saying.
I don't get through the door.
If I put 5-7, I don't get through the door.
I don't get the ding back on the dating app or whatever it is.
Sure.
So I don't even get a place at the plate.
But at least by lying, I get a place at the plate for 30 minutes.
And who knows how those 30 minutes could go.
Maybe you show up first.
You're there for 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
You get a seat.
You're sitting down and she doesn't even know.
You engage in conversation.
That would suck.
And then it's too late.
You got them in trapped.
You're not going to stand up when she walks in?
You're not going to stand up when she walks in?
You're just going to stay seated like a rude guy.
Hey, what's up?
I'm down here.
You do the port and away and you stand in your tippy toes.
See, that's what I feel bad.
I've been over six feet since I was like 12.
and it's never been a problem.
It's got to be tough, man.
It's got to be a little tough.
Yeah.
Now the will 6-1.
I know what it's like.
You know?
Do you feel shorter?
I've been lying about it all these years.
Does your mentality...
I feel shorter.
Your ego and your mentality is a little shorter.
Yeah, 6-2 sounds better than 6-1.
6-1 sounds average.
Keep going 6-2. It does better.
You know? Except it's not at all.
My son say I'm short.
Well, by them you are.
Sixth one is perfectly acceptable.
The 14-year-old is six, three-and-a-half now.
That's crazy.
Jeez.
Who knows where he's going.
Yeah.
The 14-year-old went on spring break, by the way.
Big time.
Big time hanging out with the seniors.
Yeah.
Changed him.
I'm sure about the parenting.
Went home a legend, by the way.
Did he?
Went home a legend.
Hanging out with the senior girls.
That's big time, right?
Damn, good for him.
That's big time.
What a guy.
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