Will Cain Country - Did Jill Biden Just ADMIT She Covered Up Joe's Health Problems? (ft. Tim Young & Colby Covington)

Episode Date: May 28, 2026

Shocking new comments from Former First Lady Jill Biden have revealed that Former President Joe Biden’s infirmities were no secret among his inner circle, but just how long did they know? Comedian & Media Fellow at the Heritage Foundation Tim Young sits down with Will to re-examine the coverup of Joe Biden’s cognitive decline, before taking a look at how the Democratic Party’s alienation of straight, white men has led to “beta orbiters” like James Talarico.Plus, UFC Fighter & RAF Wrestler Colby Covington picks apart Will and Tim’s fighting strategies, discuss the increasing politicization of sports, and preview his upcoming wrestling event in Dallas. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jill Biden tells CBS the debate performance of her husband came as a total shock, never seen before and never seen since. while James Tolariko represents the fact that straight white men have been run from Democrats with Colby Covington and comedian Tim Young. Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, but always available by following us at Spotify or on Apple. Today with us, coming up a little bit later as UFC champion, RAF wrestler. Colby Covington, they're putting on an event, R-AF-09.

here in Dallas, Texas, I will be in attendance. I have never yet been to an event for RAF, and I'm excited to see that on Saturday night. But hanging out with us as we speak is comedian and media editor at the Dallas Express Fellow at the Heritage Foundation, Tim Young. What's up, Tim? I have to have a lot of jobs to make ends meet now.

I don't know if you knew that or not. By the way, what a dichotomy of guess. You've got me, and then the complete opposite of the spectrum in Colby Covington. What a tough guy. I am the complete opposite of that. Have you met Colby Covington? No.

Neither have I. I don't hang out with fighters. I'll be curious when he walks in. How big is he? Big enough to murder us both with his bare hands. Do you think? What does Colby Covington wrestle in? Where did he fight at UFC?

What was his weight class? I'm not doubting he could murder us with his bare hands. What I'm curious about is will it read physically? Will it read casually? Will it read in person? Listen, again, every time I come in here, I talk about you swimming the Hudson and how just how you survived that. That toxic mess. I think we should just clear the table out and you could just wrestle it.

I am a bit like the toxic Avenger. You've got the powers from that. So I think you should just, you know, maybe even if it's just an arm wrestle, you know? This guy, he's headlining his event this weekend, right? He's the main event for this. Yes. What a good warm-up. Will Kane.

Just put you to headlock for a little while. See if you tap out real quick. Let's discuss that with Colby Coving. Yeah, that's good idea. I don't want to be put into a headlock. I don't want to be in a sleeper hold. I don't want any of that. Have you ever had like an M.M.A.

Like hit your... No. I trained with M.M.A. Fighters for a goofy video once. Not good. Not good. You think, like, if you and I, like, went at it, right? And we, like, our punches are nowhere near. I mean, they just harm you. The one guy says, hey, kick me.

Like, I'm training with these guys. He's just, hey, kick me. I'm like, what do you mean just kick me? He just, kick me full force. And he blocks it with his shin. And I fell to the ground. It was so painful. I would imagine.

Shin-on-chin contact? Your shin hit his shin? Oh, it was not good. Oh, that would hurt really bad. And then everybody had a good laugh. No, fighting is one of those things that exist in abstraction. Every man thinks here's what I would do and here's what I could do. And we have these visions, these movies that play in our head.

And then you see these videos of like fights on 6th Street. And you're like, nobody or very few people live out the movie in their head. And those dudes, it shows we want to believe that fighting, and we have believed for most of our lives, that fighting is a measure of the old saying. It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog. Who can get crazy the fastest? But once you arrive at 2026, we're now 20 years into popular training of fighting,

meaning you never know who you're going to run into that's actually trained. Yeah. And training at something obviously is very different. It's like anything. Honestly, it's like going on television. It's like, I don't have butterflies. I don't have second guessing. I can move forward with some level of calm and focus because I've done it a million times.

I haven't fought. I mean, I've been in fights. I was in fights when I was a kid. They were all stupid scraps. But for somebody like Colby, who's a champion, but even forget Colby, just a dude who is trained, who's done it a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand times in a gym. Yeah. I should be light work.

Yeah, no, less than light work. I always saw myself as the like heel manager in pro wrestling. Did you watch pro wrestling growing up the old? A little. So I always saw myself as like Bobby Heenan where I'd be like I'd have like the tough guys around me. I'd be a big mouth and then at some point the good guy would get a hold of me and like throw me. You know, and that would be it. Like one hit you're down.

I am not, I will never purport to be some sort of tough fighting guy. I love those videos though on those instant karma videos or whatever on Instagram and all those things you watch. Yeah. Those quick ones where somebody does mess with the wrong person and it's a very quick out. here's what I think I would do, and I have no training. And I'm going to ask Colby if this is what I should do. I would try to shoot. You know what shooting is?

Not a gun. You know, I would pull your gun out? No, I would shoot. So I would try to look for my opening and then basically go for the waist with my shoulder, wrap, lift, fall. I've seen the videos. The guys that do that, if they can get to the waistline without. getting need in the face. That's what she said.

Or uppercut. Or get put into a guillotine hold, which I've been putting a guillotine hold, and that really sucks. Yeah. No, it's not good. If you can get through all that and you can wrap, then you lift and fall backwards and twist. And that dude hits the ground so hard that now you have a little bit of time. Right. So we're going to clear the table out.

Uh, tinfoil, two a day. Uh, can we get the, can we get this table out of here so then we can just let them fight? I'll do the commentary. I'm going to ask, Kobe, if a completely untrained individual gets into a fight besides running. Three seconds. What's the move? Three seconds. And he's, he's not just MMA. Not with him. Not with him. Like, he's my coach. I'm on, I'm on 6th Street. Oh. What would he advise me to do? And how, are you sober and the person has had a few? That's, that's, that's, I don't think we can put those into the equation. Because who knows. There's a lot of variables. When you're on 6th Street, there's a lot of variables. Right. Are they trying to impress a woman? Because, you know, we aren't. So, at least me, I'm not. So, like, it really just factored. There's so much. Do they have a pizza in their hand? They have a big jump of slice? Did they just leave Joe Rogan's club? Or did they leave, you know, the dumpy club that, like, flips the owners every three months? There's a lot there.

Yeah, there's a lot to factor in. We'll clear all that coming up a little bit later with Colby Covington. Jill Biden went on CBS News. And she was asked, I think, in supporting a new book she's about to release about her husband, President Joe Biden's. Then debate performance. Here is Jill Biden. Were you horrified as you saw it unfold? I wasn't horrified. I was frightened because I had never, ever seen Joe like that before or since. Never. Yes. Or since. You've never seen them like that? Never. No.

What happened? I don't know what happened. happen. I mean, as I watched it, I thought, oh, my God, he's having a stroke. And it scared me to death. There you have it. What do you think, Tim? I think right after the debate, she came out and said that he did a great time. He had a great job. Sorry, he did a great time. Yeah, maybe I'm having a stroke. He had a great time, and it was the best, the best she's ever seen. So I don't know what's changed over the years. I think that Joe Biden has not been coherent for years. We knew this. The media clearly cover toward it. I think my favorite was, did you ever see the video where he just walked into the jungle? Yes. He just walked away, just kind of like shuffled off. It's like, what's happening here?

Like, where's, uh, no, she's, she's a liar. I mean, at this point, though, I would have never believed anything that she said to begin with, but now Democrats in general have all lied across the board. Remember a couple of months ago, too? Jake Tapper and everybody on the left, who covered for him for years, decided to say that he was cognitively declining at a very rapid pace. But they totally ignored it the entire time. Again, if he was having a stroke in the middle of it, the president in particular has a special medical team that would have rushed in and taken care of him. Like, it would have been so obvious. If she truly believed that he was having a stroke, she would have sought medical attention. Immediately. She would have taken him to the hospital. He's got his own medical

team to your point. This is a lie. It's a flat out lie. Every bit of it is a lie. She didn't have that legitimate concern for her husband because she had seen this. before. She has seen it since. That every word coming out of her mouth is an absolute lie. We saw it. Now, it varies. There were times the shuffle walk. We'd seen him do the shuffle walk. The stammer. We'd seen him do this. The handshake to no one. The trailing off sentences. Yeah. These were things that we had seen. I will submit. I will agree. That might have been the worst we'd ever seen that night. That could have been the worst version of Joe, but we'd seen elements of that version along the way. And the only reason that we haven't seen those

versions since is he's been out of the spotlight. He's been virtually out of the spotlight since. So what she is doing is lying. And, you know, whenever someone is a liar, whenever, okay, I'm going to reel that back, whenever someone lies to you, then you start considering whether or not that person is a liar and whether or not they have always lied to you. Oh, yeah. I had a politician actually recently. Not to totally change the subject here, Will, but you know a lot of these people. He lied to me about something really small and I've been covering for him and like real, real small, like totally insignificant.

I'm like, holy molly, if that guy lies about something that small, he'll lie about something much, much bigger. Give me an example. What's something small? Can you do it without outing the guy? He lied to me about having dinner with a mayor that he made up the name of. made up the name of the mayor? Yeah. It's like, we'll just say like

Mayor Smith or something like that. And I'm like, you know, that guy was no. I like Googled it because I was angry that this guy was late to an event. And yeah, he totally lied. Totally lied. And so when I had been covering for this guy for a long time and I finally just said, uh-uh, no. And I told him. I was like, nah. And I just blocked his number so I don't have to

hear from this dude anymore. But it's wild, man. But you know, so here's something about Biden that we have not heard about in months. Remember we were told when he left office that he had stage four prostate cancer that had metastasized. Gosh, I've forgotten that, Tim. Like, we were told that he was basically knocking on Heaven's door. And that has, that story has disappeared as well.

Like, what, what, what happened here? What, what have we been told about? What is the truth about Joe Biden? The man, actually, I used to get on Congress and the Republicans in Congress for eliminating, expelling George Santos because of how many lies he said about his life and all the things that he did. But when you take a look at George Santos, Joe Biden lied more about his life, and the people around him lied more about his life than George Santos ever did about his life. I don't know that there's been a single true statement that's come out of Joe Biden,

starting from, what's his name, at the pole, with the kids rubbing his, his hairy legs. Corn Pop. With the rusty, rusty razors? Yeah, yeah. Has the man ever told the truth? Has anyone ever told the truth about Joe Biden in his orbit? Well, and I think, so I think to some extent somebody could be listening. and going, yeah, well, okay, we already knew all this. And that's true. But it's the, okay, I think what bothers me as much as listening to Jill Biden is to listen to the media today. Say some of the same things we're saying right now. Like if you turn on CNN last night,

they are saying that's not going to work, what you're saying is not going to work. But they're very, the very same host, the very same characters, obviously the very same network that in the waning days of Joe Biden or the final years of Joe Biden told us all the things that we are seeing and saying are a conspiracy. Remember the videos, the deceptively edited videos? It was said by Corrine John Pierre. It was repeated on mainstream media that the videos we'd seen of him walking into the jungle or walking off stage the wrong way or shaking hands with nobody were a...

She called it cheap fakes because she got it wrong. She created a new term and then the media ran with it because they had to run with it because it was a mistake on her part. But it was supposed to be deepfake. Yeah. They ran with the idea this was all cheap fakes and it was a conspiracy driven by the right. Yeah. And here they are now going, oh, Joe Biden was in really bad shape. And the point is, you lied. And now I'm supposed to trust you in some way. You burned your credibility. And you're asking for us to trust. Yeah. I don't. I mean, look, I don't want to dig into the next topic and skip things. But they certainly have been lying about James Tala rica. Ever since Chick, the election ended with Ken Paxton beating John Corner the other day. But isn't trusted at all time low in the media? Isn't it? 12% or something like that. It's some crazy low number and justifiably.

Let's take quick break. We continue this conversation with comedian Tim Young here on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with comedian Tim Young. Let's let me accept your, your transition into James Tala Rico. First of all, this is the photo that was put out by the Tala Rico campaign. And it is virtually identical to the photo put out by Vanity Fair some years ago. I think it's about eight years ago now of Beto O'Rourke. And it's a very similar pose, closed mouth, smile, hands in the back pocket of the jeans, one leg staggered in front of the other. Beto O'Rourke is saying that James Tala Rico is the biggest political talent that he has seen. What?

Yeah. I don't believe that for a second. If I'm Beto, I'm upset that I'm not the nominee this time for Senate. if they think that Tala RICO has a chance, which I think all those polls, there's a lot of internal polls that show him ahead from the Democrat side. I think Beto would have a better chance in Tel Avido's just lost too much at this point, right? Like, there's a, there's, that's an interesting proposition. As much as they were in on Beto and on paper, Beto is better than Tala rica. Oh, yeah.

You'd think you'd be able to convince himself, but I guess if you lose that much what governor, president, and senator, then you kind of be like, I guess the people have spoken. Once you lose the trifecta. You go home? The people have spoken. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, I feel like you, I would just keep pushing him. If I were the Democrats, if I was a Democrat strategist, number one, I'd be a better Democrat strategist than most of them. I would have stuck with Beto again. But then you take a look at how bad the DNC is right now. The DNC is in total debt still. I think they still owe more money than what they have in the bank account, as opposed to the R&C being up, I think 135 million or something like that right now. I feel like they're on a budget. They don't know what they're doing. And I think they're flailing here. I don't know why, again, we make fun of her all the time, but I don't know why you wouldn't know. put Jasmine Crockett up. Well, she did. She lost it. Well, I know. But they all kind of turned on her in that property.

Yeah. And I think Jasmine Crockett would have been a better shot. We'll see in November, but I, you know. I find this fascinating, Tim. So Will Chamberlain, who is a guy on X, who he's, yeah, senior counsel, Article 3 Project, Edmund Burke Foundation. He tweeted this. I find this really interesting.

The Democratic Party is struck. adversarial to straight white men. So the straight white men that remain in the party are all weirdos. Yeah. It's pretty interesting. Think about that. Okay. And then somebody responded, and this person, I don't know, goes by the handle, Professor X.

And he says this, this, but I found what he said really interesting. This is at the heart of everything. Straight white men have been made up the, he doesn't, I read that exactly as he wrote it. Straight white men have made up the vast majority of elected officials in American history, but Democrats have systematically stunted the career of almost all straight white men in their ranks over the last 15 years. This has two devastating effects for Democrats. One, the Democratic bench is very thin, which is what you would expect when you systematically discriminate against a huge chunk of the most qualified applicants. This is why Democratic leaders are incredibly old.

They successfully hollowed out the next generation. That's why we still have Schumer. If you find a straight white male, he's in his late 70s and 80s. And secondarily, the young white men who are left as Democrats are a very specific breed of beta orbiter who turns off most people, voters included. I think it's important to note that James Tellerico has a girlfriend. We just haven't met her. She's probably in Canada. Outside of the greater Niagara Falls area.

Do you have any other girlfriends? Name the movie. I don't know. Come on. No. You got me. My brain's not working this morning. I had political facts this morning.

They're sitting in a cafeteria and they're talking about who's been laid. And I don't want to say the actors. It'll start to, okay. I'm fried. I was prepared for politics. Michael, what's it? Michael C. Hall says, yeah, I got a girlfriend.

Yes. I've had sex. Where, who? And they go, I met her Niagara Falls. And then isn't it Judd, Nelson? says outside of the greater Niagara Falls area, what other women have you been with? The breakfast club. Oh, that's so long.

Man, that's, you know, my girlfriend, who's not here and lives in California, to make the joke. But she wants to watch old movies all the time. I don't watch old movies anymore. That's an old movie? Breakfast Club? It'll hold up. It's not like watching a movie from 68. You know it really holds up, Team America World Police?

I haven't seen it a long time. Okay, well, there you go. But no, I loved when Paxton won that night. They released the photo, not just that photo of the holding his butt, but they made sure that you saw that he eats meat. They gave him a leg of meat, and they said, put it to your mouth. I'm sure he gagged the entire time. They got one quick shot.

Yeah. He's a man. He's really interesting. He's giving these interviews where he says that Paxton is deceptively editing clips of him out of context. There's a clear clip of him saying, we're very proud to be the first vegan run. campaign. And then he's asked about it and he goes, come on, I'm from Texas. I grew up on brisket. I eat brisket. So, but which is it? Which is true? He's either a liar or he's vegan. I would put money on because of his complexion, him being a vegan. But also, you know,

he's very like, he's very much so a heretic. I don't think I've seen a candidate quite like this before where you say God is non-binary, really just mocking the, like a slap in the of Christianity and Christians and people of faith in general. Again, who votes for that other than maybe like childless cat ladies or something that feel sympathetic? I don't know who you're appealing to. I've seen a Talariko sign in my neighborhood in Dallas. I haven't seen a lot, not yet, but I've seen one. There's a trans flag in my cul-de-sac, and I'm like, what is this?

Yeah. But I do think this is interesting about the straight white male relationship to Democrats. We always talk about it in terms of voters, but it's interesting to think about in terms of candidates. What kind of candidates do they have? Now, I can think of two straight white males that, for lack of a better way to say it, read straight white male. Okay. One is Gavin Newsom. Yeah. But honestly, Newsom feels old at this point. Like he is a previous era of Democrat where he's nakedly political, not terribly ideological. And he will do far left, politics because it's a vehicle to power.

Yes. Then there is the newer breed, which seem to be more true believers in the concepts like Democratic socialism, which I would say is like Graham Platner in Maine. Oh, yeah. And they both are straight white males. And I think that's part of the appeal of Graham Platner. I do. I think that's one of the reasons that there is some level of traction for him.

Now, outside of those two, Tala Rico does not, this analysis is. is absolutely right. This is who you're left with these beta orbiters who turn off most people. But, I mean, you take a look at Grand Platner and they were like, who can we get that's masculine? And he's got a Nazi tattoo and a history of saying things that makes what I've said, and I used to work as a blue comedian on stage, it makes me look like the nicest person on the face of the planet. I mean, this guy has said, I never want to hear anybody from the Democrat Party bring up what Trump said on the bus to Billy Bush ever again after what has come out from what Graham Planner says. Yeah. I mean, the stuff he said is horrifying. Yeah, for sure. And they're just like, whatever, he's their candidate. Right. This is a death spiral if they stay in this mold.

Yes. You keep putting up weirdos. Now, I'm not dismissing Tala Rico. I think that there's a I think that it's overstayed right now. I've seen Cook political report move Texas from likely Republican to lean Republican. And you'll see polling come out that suggests that Tala Rico has a better shot. then I think that he actually does because we've seen that over and over and over again and specifically we've seen that with Texas like Beto, Colin Allred, over and over.

But if they keep going in this vein and Tala Rico loses by, you know, whatever it ends up being, 10, 15 points, then they continue to drive off, not just the straight white male voter, but the straight white male candidate. And then that's just kind of a death spiral. Yeah.

I'm just trying to think, like, even in their, in their minds, minor leagues, where does this guy exist anymore? Where's the normal dude coming along? They just says, hey, I believe in some different policies. I mean, you don't have it anymore. I don't see these people. And actually, that's a very, very good point,

because I don't see any normal straight white men on the Democrat side anymore. Other than those, you nailed it, other than the elderly guys who are still around. Who is left at this point? Well, okay, and maybe, maybe it's not as big a deal for them. as as you're playing out, we're suggesting, this really caught my attention. So this was in my morning note. Tim, let me just pull it up here.

This stat, let's see where it came from. The headline right there reads, non-white set to become majority in U.S. for the first time in 2050, with New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut reflecting the change. Hold on I've got this. Okay. This is, I was just trying to figure out. The New York Post is reporting on it. I don't see where it's census data.

It's from the census data. The white population is projected to be below 50% nationally in 2050. And here's what's shocking. I think some people probably have come to expect that. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. In 1980, 80% of the U.S. population was white. When you flood the border with how many illegals were crossing the border, how many folks from different countries.

And it's not just Central America and South America, but everywhere that was flooding the border under Biden at the tune to what, like millions upon millions a year. What was it? A couple hundred thousand a month? Yeah. What do you think is going to happen? You know, it's been, it's, this is another thing that Democrats, okay, have said, if you bring up the concept of the great replacement theory, you're familiar with it? Yep. Okay, that's a conspiracy.

That's an alt-right white supremacist conspiracy theory. Okay. All right. Well, here we go. We see the stats. In a 50, 60, 70 year time frame, you go from 80% to 47%. Okay. That's just black and white. That's just data. Okay. Then go into why. Why did that happen? Why did that happen? There are some very, very legitimate reasons. Birth rates are declining. Yep. Birth rights are declining and that's going to have an effect on a population. But clearly, to your point, immigration policy, has driven that drastically, dynamically, hugely. That is policy. So now I have the black and white stats, and now I see a policy that is contributed to it. And if I add those two together, I'm alt-right. If I add those two together, I'm indulging in a conspiracy theory.

Let me add a third element. Democrats and Republicans, but Democrats say this often, use this phrase, demographics are destiny. demographics or destiny because it's a truism right yeah and you'll hear democrats on msnbc talk about that by when they talk about what we're talking about well what candidates are you talking about and they're going to lose this place and that place because demographics are destiny so now i have demographics or destiny policy driving demographic change and a black and white example of how demographics are changing that right there is a math equation

Yeah. Just basic statistics. Yeah. No. You're right. And I don't know what effect it will have on the country. I don't know that anybody... Hey, look, I'll be honest with you. I don't know what anybody can say like, oh, this is clearly where it ends up or what the effect may be. But all I know is drastic change like that in, by the way, a very short period of time. A half a century is a very short period of time to have that type of demographic change. You don't know what your future looks like. Listen, if I get to pick who's coming into the country, though, South Americans, quality South Americans who are usually. Catholic are usually pretty conservative, the same kind of Hispanic and Latino communities that come from Cuba, the people who have been through and gotten past communism who want to come here and make America better, I'm all for it all day long. I don't care what the demographics end up looking like. Unfortunately, what we're getting is whatever comes over the border. And a lot of these people and what we're seeing in the news and what we're seeing what the Democrats are pushing are people who absolutely hate our country and want to completely change it from what it is into whatever they want to be. It's not a melting pot anymore when you're putting up. you know, 80-foot statue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't disagree with you. And, I mean, but some of that, we can have a little bit. Some of that is happy talk.

I mean, yes, it's like you can't paint with the massively broad brush. I mean, many, many, many. Not just legal, but illegal Latinos coming to this country and become very productive members of American society. Yeah. But that's not a rebuttal to the point that I'm making. Oh, yeah. Which is you're talking about drastic cultural change.

Okay? Maybe your argument is for the better. Maybe some people say for the worse. Whatever. That's a value judgment. But what I'm saying is 100% true. Look, does Mexico operate the same as the United States? No. Does El Salvador operate the same as United States? Does Honduras? Does Guatemala? Do they, does Costa Rica operate the same as the United States? Why? Why? Well, we know that the answer, at least in part, will be culture. Yeah. It's going to be corruption. But culture is going to be a big part of that. And so what I'm suggesting here is, you've got massive, massive cultural change. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And we see it right here in Texas already. Well, I just try to be, you know, once in a while, Will, people accuse me of being negative all the time. I try to be nice. I try to be happy. I try to put a spin on it that's not totally negative. You know, in 2050, I'll be 70 years old, but maybe I can get some good DEI programs for myself. You know, I'll be 75. 75. Yeah, 75. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with comedian Tim Young here on Will King Country.

Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with comedian Tim Young. Okay, back to the policy side of this. Yeah. Well, right now, Democratic politicians in Antifa are protesting outside of Delaney Hall detention center in New York, New Jersey. Okay. Those are illegal immigrants inside there. And they are protesting.

It's very important that the violent illegal immigrants get to come back out into our communities and just do whatever they want and commit any crime that they want. It's very important to the Democrat. Very, very. Now, Secretary of Homeland Security. security. Mark Wayne Mullen has said there's a lot of chaos outside on the streets. Local police, state police are not showing up to help. So the answer that they're giving us to why is, well, resources. You know, we've got limited resources. We got to, we got to set our priorities. So Mullen is saying, well, okay, we got to do the same. And he's saying, we're going to stop sending

CBP to airports in sanctuary cities. So that's Newark, JFK, LaGuardia, Los Angeles. Chicago, Atlanta? Yeah. Is Atlanta a sanctuary city? It has to be. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I would think it has to be. But I do know this. In Sanctuary City International Airports, they're going to stop using CBP, this is the proposal, to process international flights.

There are 11, 1,100 international flights a day coming into those airports at sanctuary cities. that is 185,000 passengers a day. If CBP stops processing that, I mean, you're talking about a massive shutdown. I'm for it. I like it. I think this is a good strategy. Look, if they don't want to, if they don't want to protect ICE and border patrol, why should they reciprocate? I mean, why not?

That's a good way to kick them. Secretary Transpiration, Sean Duffy's not in for it. Well, hold on. Before you get there, though, I'm just happy that this guy, Mark Wayne Mullen, a great senator, by the way, before he became Secretary of DHS, isn't spending hundreds of millions of dollars on commercials for himself. I think this guy's just getting to work and not worrying about the glam of the DHS show. Christian Gnome shot. Yeah. Also, I don't think his wife has any problems either, like her husband. That was very interesting. Yeah. When I first saw this policy, Tim, I was like, I don't know. You're hurting people that have nothing to do with this. Yeah. Travelers. You know, travelers who don't even live in those sanctuary cities. But I do think if it's true, the CBP has limited resources and you've got to set your priorities, you might as well reflect those who also share your priorities. I enjoy this greatly. And I think more actions like this should take place. I think you should smack these cities who want to be anti-federal government and anti-protecting America. They get what they get at this point. It's a shrug from me. I'm going to need you on this one.

I think this is closer to your age demo. Are we on the 10th anniversary tinfoil? I think we are. Oh, no. 10th anniversary of Harambe? God bless us all. Yeah? I have one of the jerseys.

If I would have known, and I was talking to tinfoil on the way in, yes, I bought a Cincinnati Bengals Harambe jersey before they banned them. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Oh, you can get it made. He had to get a custom. And I got a custom made back in the day before they banned. getting custom her own. What number? 69.

In honor of his great, I believe he was 69 years young when he passed. I don't think that's true. Oh. I can't believe it's been 10 years. This actually makes us feel old. I think that's really the whole thing. Wait, is that the White House posted a thing on it? Yeah, the White House.

Do they know that not everything is a meme? Do they know that they're the most powerful office in the world? That's what they have to say. They say this isn't a meme. Says, today we remember a legend. on this day in history, Harambe would have celebrated another birthday, an icon that became part of internet history, American culture, and an entire generation's timeline. Tomorrow marks 10 years since we lost him. They posted this yesterday. Ten years since the moment the world stopped scrolling and collectively mourned something bigger than a meme.

He became a symbol of loyalty, strength, chaos, unity, and the strange beauty of the internet, bringing millions of people together for one cause, never forgetting Harambe. everyone remembers where they were when they heard the news. And somehow a decade later, his legacy still lives on. Gone but never forgotten. Rest easy, a true patron. The longer that post goes, the more of a meme it becomes. Come on. Last time I was here, it was the Trump said he was a doctor when he was clearly Jesus in an image.

This is, are you, you're so, you're so upset about it that you're spilled your water. Guys, not everything is a mean. I just, look, I obviously, and I almost feel like this is like me beating the drum every time. here. I like this administration. I like their policy. I like what they're doing. But come on. Why? It's marvelous. Yeah, I mean, it is, but like it is if it comes from, and again, I'm going to sound like a rhino or a lib tart or whatever you want to call me here. It is if we're not at war. It is if we're not like, you know, if there aren't serious, serious issues happening around the world and in this country and things that we need to do. I mean, this is, it would be a fun one, but. Come on. So would you

in on Harambe at the time? I bought a jersey. That's right. I don't think he would, I don't think he would have harmed the kid, by the way. I think that he was peacefully picking up the kid and taking care of him. No, that's my point. I wasn't in on Harambe. Oh. You hated Harambe? 2016. I don't know. I didn't care

about this story. Next we'll find out that you wanted peanut the squirrel to die, too. I didn't I don't remember the details. So a kid falls into the zoo. Into the gorilla pit. Yeah, or whatever they call. I don't know if they call it the gorilla pit or whatever. Yeah, sounds right. And Harambe rushed over and picked the kid up. Okay.

And the immediate response was shoot him from, from, I guess. This all happened in a split second? It was pretty quick. No, it was pretty quick. It was pretty quick. They had to make a, a quick decision on that. Okay. And the quick decision is we got him down.

So I'm sorry, the details are kind of interesting to me. Was the kid in the enclosure for a while? No, I don't believe he was. Before Harambe went to the kid? I don't believe it is. How is the guy the gun get there pretty quick? They probably have guns ready to go on their, on, on like the angry animals or potentially harmful animals.

Okay, so the kid goes in. Yeah. Harambe goes up to the kid. Yeah. How does the kid? I believe he picks up the kid. Now you're asking me all these details. I think he was like three or four. He was very young.

Okay. And, uh, and Harambe shown signs of aggression to the kid? No. No, looked like he was going to protect it. Really? Yes. If Harambe, no beating in the chest, none of the, none of the, none of the, gorilla things that I obviously I'm not a

gorilla expert. I only know from watching King Kong movies, but it did not appear that he was being any way aggressive looked like he was going to protect the child and then they gunned him down. I mean and look, it would only take a split second. The gorilla even if the kid is like seven or eight years old.

Like Colby Covington. He can just rip you apart in a second with his bare hands. Yeah. The gorilla I saw an Instagram algorithm feed post yesterday about bite force like the gorilla

like you've got human then dog then wolf and you just keep going up on bite force and I think gorilla was oh well before you get to shark and the most bite force is the killer whale yeah yeah but I think among mammals gorilla was like

not up there like way above everything else like you know who has a big bite force is the hyena like more than a lion I had no idea yeah I think because they're scathing Is this what you're looking up at, like, 2 a.m.? What's the downward spiral of things that happen here?

What's up, Colby? Here we go. Talk about people with the force of a gorilla. This man, it's going on. Good to meet you. Colby Covington. What's up, Colby? Good to meet you in person.

Hold on. I'll meet you in person, too. Yeah, okay. Now, can I just think, hold on. Let me take something, Colby. Yeah, I'm sizing you up. The whole first five minutes we're in here. I think he thinks he can take you.

No, I did not keep that. He has been talking about. I don't know. I know I can't. I know my place. But this guy here, I think he's ready to get in the ring. Okay, okay. UFC champion, R-A-F wrestler, Colby Covington, joining me and Tim Young now here on Will King Country. Here's what we were discussing, okay? I never met you in person. Yeah. And, I mean, I got the resume. I know. Okay? I know.

But I was like if, but here's what I'm willing to say, especially you've got that jacket on, you've got your R-A-F jacket on. If we ran into each other on the street, I would notice the ears. So the ears would be a warning sign. Yeah. But would I know, like, I'm in trouble? And would I read, I'm in trouble? You know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you mean. And I don't think that I would, but for the ears.

Yeah. Like, what are you? One, I'm 180. Okay. You're a little shorter than me. Yeah. Are you once? I'm 6-2?

What are you? Yeah, I'm 6 foot. Okay. I walk around 195. You're 195? Yeah. Oh, boy. He's all muscle.

Dense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that doesn't immediately yell. run. No, not, yeah. Nah, you're right.

So I was curious, like, like, yeah, would I, would I know, will, you're way over your head if we just somehow started getting into it verbally first? Verbly? Yeah. Probably not, you know, because I'm not very

non-confrontational and, you know, my energy is very calm, you know, I know when I make money and when I'm competing, that's what I'm going to give my all and I'm going to go crazy. But, like, in the, streets like i had nothing to prove and i'm not trying to catch a charge and go to jail so of course of course i don't think you'd assume it let's do this colby this is what tim and i were talking about if i okay i have zero training right yeah zero you look like you work out though well i'm

talking about fight training okay i got to see that about me so anymore you don't know because what you know that's it i think that's interesting in the rise of of m m m ms is that a lot of guys do it recreationally you know what i mean their form of exercise. There's a lot of dudes that at least have some level of training. It's not the first time. Their brains aren't going 100 miles an hour. They're not hearing white noise. They can at least fall back on some level of training. So you never know, right, who you're dealing with. You're right. But let's assume for a moment, I'm on 6th Street and Austin, right? And I don't know, and this guy may not be trained. I told Tim,

I think my go-to move is what I'm going to try to do. You tell me if this is stupid or smart. You're my coach. to move this table. Okay. Is I'm shooting. Shooting. That's what I'm going to try to do. Not a gun.

Yeah. Shooting a take down. I see too many internet videos. Go for essentially the waist, right? With my shoulder. I hope I don't get a knee. Yeah. Hope I don't get a guillotine.

That's true. But grab the midsection, lift, twist, and try to get them on the ground. Okay. That's my move. What do you think? So someone's come and attack your family? That's your go-to? Well, there's no weapons.

He wants to hug them. Yeah. No weapons involved. I don't know. your body and having the reach that you have, I would say use like a front kick, you know, keep distance, you know, use a kick where, you know, you're not going to engage with someone because you never know. They could have a good guillot.

They might be a Dr.itsu black belt. You never know if they're a boy tie artist. They might throw a knee right up the front and knock you out. So I think, you know, a good measurement is like using your distance and using your legs to keep the distance. Really? I think so. What am I going to get out of the distance?

Just never getting hit? Just never getting hit. Keeping them away. You know, that's the biggest thing is to subdue them, keep them away from you. Don't let them get on top of you because you never, know what type of skills they have. Right. But if they don't have skills, is my shoot technique smart or stupid? I think it's smart. Yeah, I think so. I see all these videos of these dudes that they have a little bit of training. Yeah. And I don't.

When they go in and they grab those dudes, yeah. It's no punch is thrown. They lift, twist, boom onto the ground. And then the dude's kind of in shock. Yeah. The guy that got slammed. And then you got time. You get on top. Start doing your work. Ground and pound. I don't feel like, Tim, I don't feel like I have a full endorsement of my strategy. No, no, that's not. He's being right now. See, Colby's one of those guys. He's one of those guys that have, has anybody ever tried to mess with you in public? No, never. Yeah, they know better. I think they see the ears and like, that's the number one thing. Like, you're not going to mess with someone that has Colflower ear. Yeah. It's not a good idea. Unless they do, too. Has anybody ever tried to mess with you? I don't even mean fight at this point. I think I've asked you this before. But like, behind the scenes, locker room, or, on the business side of this of this fight game because of who you've been politically. A little bit, yeah, definitely.

There's been a couple of times where people tried to start drama, but I think they weren't really wanting confrontation. I think they were just doing it because they wanted to get a clip out of it. They wanted to get a little, you know, a little content on social media that makes them look cool, you know, and have some clout. So they were doing at least face to face, not just on X or something like that, not just on social media. But they had cameras around. They were trying to get the interaction.

You get the rub. It was never face to face because they knew I was the best fighter in the world. So they would stay from the other side of the room and they would shout it. They didn't want to look me in the eyes. Well, were you an outlier? You've been an open supporter for a long time of President Trump, right? For sure. I do think that your world is a little different than other professional sports leagues.

Yeah. So the difference is I don't think you're as much as an outlier as you would be, say, in the NFL. But is that fair? Like in the, I don't want to use UFC because that's a brand, but in the MMA world, were you, did you feel alone? I did. Yeah. You did. There wasn't a lot of people that were voiced in support, you know. A lot of people thought that they were going to lose friendships. They were going to have people judging them for, you know, their political views. So, yeah, I was kind of the lone wolf that was, you know, standing up for freedom and standing up for President Trump. Would they come behind the scenes and say, hey, man, I appreciate that. Keep it going? Yeah, yeah. I would get a lot of DMs. Guys are like, man, I would.

I wish I could come out and say that, man. You're so brave. And I wish I had the balls to come out and say that, but they just never would. That happened to me at ESPN. When I was at ESPN for five years, you know, and it wasn't so much directly tied to politics, but it was issue by issue. You know, the game at ESPN from 2015 to 2020 was everything is racist, right? Everything is racist. And I would push back and be like, the facts don't support that or this. And of course, then I'd be called a racist for simply asking someone to prove their case that it's racist. But I would get messages. and by very famous athletes, hey, you're right, I appreciate what you're saying. And I would always appreciate it, but I always felt like, why don't you say it too?

You know, like, you don't have to leave me out here by myself. Yeah. Sorry, I think most major league baseball players, a lot of people who are independent contractors, when you're making your own money, you lean conservative to begin with. But a lot of these big athletes, like, again, like when people reach out to you,

are you seeing more and more people stand up for president? Trump and the right and the right things to do in this country? I mean, are they getting more empowered because of folks like you? You know, I think that, you know, originally, like, when I first came out in 2018, people were scared of, like, how corporate was going to look at them. They didn't want to lose sponsors. They didn't want to piss off their bosses, you know, the owners, you know, for the NFL, NBA and NHL.

But now people, you know, it's becoming more acceptable, you know, because Trump's in office and, you know, it's kind of a cooler thing to be a part of these days because what he's doing. He's doing great things for the country, and he's putting the country first, and, you know, inflation's going down. We have more protection in this country. We have a strong leader, you know, and peace through strength. So I think it's becoming a lot cooler to do these days, but, you know, six years ago, people were so afraid because they didn't want to lose their paycheck. Right. And in your world in particular, I mean, President Trump is walking out at UFC events. Yeah. You know. But one of the reasons I bring this up is Jackson Dart.

Jackson Darts, the quarterback of the New York Giants. He introduced President Trump at a rally last week, and the sports world's reacted incredibly. Well, the vocal part of the sports world was reacted negatively. That means sports media, sports riders, and some of his teammates. And the story now is that he had a team meeting. Abdul Carter, linebacker for the Giants, came out on social media and said, what are we doing here, man? Maybe it was a problem behind the scenes in the locker. But New York Post headline is Jackson Dart addresses Giants teammates after Trump introduction controversy.

And he was accused of dividing the locker room. I think it's interesting on a couple of fronts. Like, there's more Republicans. There's more black Republicans than these guys know are willing to admit. And if you're not, why is that divisive? Steve Kerr spoke at the Democratic National Convention. Steph Curry spoke at the Democratic National Convention. Jackson Dart can't speak and simply introduced President Trump.

It's a spin from the media too, by the way. I mean, as soon as when you say something on the right, you're controversial and you're dividing a locker room. Those guys can say crazy stuff. Who's the Golden State's coach who's always out? Kerr. Sorry, see, I don't follow that. He just wears that. It's minor league baseball.

But they can say whatever crazy stuff they want to say, and nothing divisive at all. There's no headline that says that at all. Yeah. Well, that's why I asked you about the locker rooms inside, you know, to the extent that there is locker rooms inside. the fight world. I mean, there is when you're at the gym training. I guess if there's other guys training at the same gym. Yeah. These guys do have a world that have to live together, play together. But I can't, I can't imagine we live in a world today where, you know, somebody's like, well, I just can't accept him as my quarterback. He likes President Trump. Yeah. It's disgusting,

you know. Like, everybody's entitled to their own opinion, you know, like whether it's different than yours, you know, you shouldn't judge them. And, you know, it's a team sport. So, like, For me, it's individual sports. So we're independent contractors, so everything falls on me. You know, if I'm going to lose sponsors, which I did lose a lot of sponsors. You know, Reebok dropped me when I started supporting President Trump. ESPN was pissed at me. They were like, hey, don't put him on air for the fights.

Don't give him any extra mic time for after the fights. Really? Yeah, it became a big deal. Like, Dana White had to, like, vouch for me and go, like, to the head of the ESPN and be like, oh, you got to, we're trying to build this guy up and have him make money for the company. You got to give him his airtime, his due time. He's earned that right. So, like, no, we don't want him.

He supports President Trump. He's going to wear that stupid MAGA hat. So, you know, they were always like, oh, you're the elephant in the room, like, trying to always make fun of me. I'm like, why is it that I have a different opinion than you, and we can't just agree to disagree? Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Kobe Covington and Tim Young here on Will Kane Country.

Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with comedian Tim Young and our RAF wrestler, UFC fighter, Kobe Covington. Were you from originally, Kobe? From Oregon, one of the most liberal states in America. Are you from, like, the Portland area? No, from Eugene. Okay, well, it's just pretty liberal, too, right?

Very liberal. But you get to the eastern side of Oregon, and it's basically like cowboy country. Yeah, yeah, that's where my dad lives now. Oh, yeah? Bend, Oregon. How did you end up? I don't know what to call you. Do you want me call you conservative, a supporter of President Trump,

whatever, however you describe yourself coming from Eugene? Rebellion? Yeah, rebellion. I would say rebellion, you know, rebellious and just was willing to take the path less chosen. And, you know, I love what President Trump stood for. And, you know, I thought he was a fighter. You know, I loved the way he did business early on. And I was always inspired by his work.

So. Would you have said you were conservative before President Trump? No, probably not. Not political or liberal? I was not political. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it didn't really matter to me.

All I cared about was wrestling and God and country. Yeah. Yeah, but that's interesting. But you would have said God and country then as well. Absolutely. Even though you weren't political, you're like, these are important concepts to me. Absolutely. And so then President Trump comes along and you see, what, the embodiment of those values?

Yeah, absolutely. I see the embodiment of those values and a guy that just genuinely cares. And, you know, I had the pleasure of meeting him in person and just seeing how nice of a humble person he was. And always the best sense of the humor could make anybody laugh in the room. And I just knew that that was my guy. that's who I was going to stand behind. Didn't matter what he did. Yeah.

The governor of New York, Kathy Hochel. This is going to be hard for Tim because he pretends to be a sports fan. I don't know basketball. Did you see it? Or the breakfast club. Did you see what she said? I prepped for the show. Yes, I saw what she said.

So President Trump said something about the Knicks. The Knicks just swept the calves in the Eastern Conference Finals to go to the NBA finals. And he said something to congratulating the Knicks, rooting for the Knicks. He's a New York guy. And she suggested. he doesn't know anything about the New York Knicks. And she said, I'd like him to name, what she said, name a player. Name the lineup.

On the 93 championship team. Here's here. Listen to, you're going to listen to through here, Kobe. Listen to Kathy Hokel. You think of him saying he's a lifelong Knicks fan. I think that's how the time to record it. I ask him to name the starting lineup from 1993 championship team and see how he does. There you go.

Now, here's what's interesting. Do you know what's interesting about that? What's that? You prep for the show, so you know what's interesting about that? I know that he's... Her demand that President Trump name a player on the 93 NICS championship. Wasn't he there? He was not just there, but didn't he shoot free throws with them?

That I don't know. Yeah. Okay. What's interesting about that is there was no 93 NICS championship team. Oh, well, there we go. Well, there we go. They didn't go to the NBA finals. You couldn't claim they were the Eastern Conference champions.

They lost in the Eastern Conference Finals. to the Bulls. So I didn't prep for the show. This is Michael Jordan's dynasty. Your prep didn't even help you on this? It's called half-assing it. Yeah, there's no championship in New York in 93. That's Bulls' sons.

This is Michael Jordan Dynasty era. And she owns herself. Wow. Going after President Trump. Jeez, that's embarrassing. Before we didn't, when you walked in, Colby, we were talking about. How old are you, Colby? 38.

Okay. You should be, he's not too young. Do you remember Harambe? No. Who's Harambe? See? I'm not the only one that wasn't in on Harambe. The gorilla who was shot 10 years ago.

Oh, okay. Cincinnati Zoo. I just saw one tweet on X about that. Because the White House posted about it? Yeah, exactly. In 2016, Tim was sharing with us exactly what happened. A young, where was the zoo? Cincinnati.

It was in Cincinnati. A young boy fell into the gorilla enclosure. And Harambe gently went over to save the boy's life. Wow. And he was gunned down. Well, no one knows. Well, yeah, it's... But he was killed.

I stay on that side of the... He was shot. Really? Yeah. That's tragic. It is tragic. I don't know... 10 years ago to this day.

So when you walk out on Saturday, you could just take a moment of silence and just do a little point up for Harambe. For sure. But... But they had to make a... split-second decision. When you walked in, I was literally talking about bite force. That's what I was talking about. Yes, because a gorilla's bite force is through the roof. Okay. It way outpaces every other mammal. Yeah. Like, it's insane. Wow. Do we have somebody

can look that up? Fact check me on that. The, the, he says, Harambe was gently cradling this boy. But all it takes is a split second of pulling, biting, or whatever it is. I trust the girl. I I trust Harambe. Yeah, that dude, that sniper, who made the call? The police chief, the zookeeper, Matt Damon, the zookeeper? I'm sure that they would blame ice now if we were around. You got to make that call, man, and... Take the shot.

You got to take the shot. Yeah, you got to take the shot. Yeah, for sure. The untrained shooters at the Cincinnati Zoo. By the way, they're just ready to shoot anybody at the Cincinnati Zoo. Put it in anybody. Try to save that kid. They've been gunned down.

All right, before we get into Real American Freestyle, I do, my producer Pat talked about this, and I do think it's interesting. Did you guys ever see Lord of the Rings? No. I wasn't big on Lord of the Rings. It's not my name either. I don't know why it doesn't do it for me. But there is a scene in Lord of the Rings, and somebody's brought this up, President Trump's, you know, beautifying America. You've got the ballroom.

You've got all these different things where they're going down a river, and they get to this town or whatever, and there's these gigantic statues of previous kings, right? in whatever world they lived in. And they were saying, we should, why is it, we should do that in America. Like, we should put Lewis and Clark, gigantic Lewis and Clark statues along the Missouri River. You know, we should honor American heroes, beautify, grandiose celebration of America. I'm for that. So who are we putting up? Obviously Donald Trump, big gold one.

I just want to hear the screaming when that happened. I think Trump should go in Rushmore. I do. But I think there's limited real estate. What if you have a statue of him as you walk up to Rushmore? Gold. Yes. Oh, we got to be gold. Yeah, got to be gold. I mean, like, if I were governor of Texas, I got some ideas.

I mean, we're going to do some Sam. There's a gigantic Sam Houston statue along I-45. But we're going to do some Davy Crockett, some Jim Bowie, some William Barrett, Travis, some Sam Houston statues. And I'm talking grandiose. This is a great use of it. of taxpayer dollars. I like it a lot. There are a lot of examples of the congressional statues and statuary hall that you could make into larger statues around the country. I would put up a Will Rogers. Will Rogers. Would he make the list? He's not like a founder, but he's one of those people who

appropriately show that you can become a commentator and scare Congress with your simple words. So he's a big one for me. I'm going to come up. I think it's a great idea. I want to build the American mythology. Hall-Cogan. Build, you know, we need to honor who we are. We are. We are. where we came from. We're in the midst of an era of tearing down what it means to be an American. Yeah. Taring down our story, suggesting it's all flawed, replacing it with chaos, no other real story. I think we spend some money and time rebuilding, physically rebuilding our story, where people walk by in awe of who we are, who we've been.

Yeah. You're completely right. Who's going to do, who's on the MMA, who's an MMA representative that we're going to make a 35-foot tall beside you, 35-foot tall statue of? I would say, you know, my mentor, Chail Sondon. Yeah? Yeah. He was kind of one of the four founders of MMA where he was able to use his voice and really captivate the crowd and audience and change his financial future.

Yeah. I worked with Chale for a little while at ESPN. Did he's a great talker? Yeah, he's a great talker. Yeah, he's a good talker. All right, this Saturday, I'm going to go, by the way. Yeah? Okay.

I was promised ringside. Oh, of course. Yeah? For legendary Will Kane? Nothing less. Real American Freestyle is here in Dallas this Saturday. Your headlining. Who are you fighting?

I'm fighting Chris Wydenman. Okay. Two-time, or four-time NCAA All-American, UFC champion. How old is he? He's 40 years old. Okay, you guys. So similar age. Yeah.

And he just got inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame. So it's a big matchup. And tell me what I'm going to, I mean, I have never been anything like this. I haven't been to a wrestling match. Like collegiate, nothing. Yeah. So tell me what I'm going to experience. Like this is open floor mat. Yeah. No cage.

No cage. Tell me like how it goes down. Yeah. So there'll be like an elevated mat so the fans can see the wrestlers on the elevated stage. And, you know, it's freestyle Olympic wrestling. It's one of the oldest sports of all time. And, you know, we've never been able to really, you know, draw an audience or make it mainstream until we got Fox Nation on board. And our legendary founder, Chad Bronstine and Izzy Martinez. and Eric Bischoff and you know it's a remember Eric Bischoff from uh from WCW yeah WCW and WCW and WCW yeah he created the NWO don't know anyway sorry yeah yep so uh you know

seeing is believing and when you come see this will I think you're uh you're going to be blown away by just the electricity in the crowd the the family friendly environment like it's good for the kids you know it's not like fighting where like you're going to see blood and guts and and gore you know this is family friendly just wrestling we're going to try and take each down, it's going to be a great combat and you're going to see who's the greatest combatant that night. Will you explain something ahead of time? Okay, otherwise I'm going to have to spend time. Look, I grew up in Texas and wrestling wasn't big. Okay, I think it's grown. A lot of sports have grown.

But, you know, when I think of wrestling, I think Oklahoma, and I think Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, that whole stretch of the Midwest into industrial. Like, isn't it big in Ohio? I know Pennsylvania. Yeah, Pennsylvania is the biggest now. Yeah. Yeah. So I've seen clips. You know, I've seen, I've probably watched an Olympic match or two,

but I don't think I fully understand the scoring system, like how you score. Yeah. So the scoring is like if you take someone down and you're able to get behind them and control them, it's two points. And then it's kind of like sumo wrestling almost. Like if you push them out of that circle, there's like a little circle on the mat. If you push them out of the circle, it's one point. Okay.

So it rewards the aggressive person. First to what? First of what? Well, there's no time. It's three, two-minute rounds. So it's six minutes. But if you're ever up by 10 points, they call it a tech fall, and the match immediately ends. Three, two-minute rounds?

Three, two-minute rounds. So back control. I understand that. That's two points. Pushing them out of the ring is one point. One point. What about, isn't pinning them against the mat? Yeah.

Both shoulders down? Both shoulders down, that's a pin, and that would automatically end the match right away. If you're able to expose their back, like they start on their stomach when you take them out, if you can expose them 90 degrees, that's an extra two points. And then if you throw a suplex, like how they do in WWE, if you throw a suplex front to back, that'll be five points. Oh, really? So that's like the big home run in wrestling.

You kind of, I mean, I'm sure the answer to this is yes, but tactical in terms of what you're going for in that moment, point-wise, right? You're obviously seeing what they're giving you and what you're strategically capable of doing in that moment, But you're probably making points decisions as well, right? Yeah, definitely. Like, I'm going to, I need to go for a suplex here. I need to get the five.

Yeah. If you're down by, you know, three or four points, you know you got to go for Hail Mary. You got to leave it all out there. You got to try for that big move to get the five points and get the win and get your hand race. It's Thursday. The fight is Saturday. When's weigh in? Wayne's or Saturday morning.

We do same day weigh in. Okay. So I did this story on ESPN when I was there. I know something about cutting. Are you cutting? I'm not cutting, actually. I actually had to gain weight for this. I'm on the Michael Phelps diet where I'm eating as many calories,

about 8,000 calories a day as possible because this guy's a bigger guy, and it's a big matchup. What's he weigh? He weighs about 220. Oh, wow. And you said you're at 195 right now? I'm 195. So the weight class is 200.

He has to get down to 200. He's cut it out. Oh, he's got to get down to 200. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's a, I mean, I like that for you. Yeah.

It's nice. Cutting 20 pounds? You tell me if I'm wrong. That's a pretty serious cut. It is. It's very serious. And that can drain the hell out of you. Absolutely.

Energy-wise. Now, he'll wake up on, well, no, the way in Saturday morning? Saturday morning, 8.m. So he'll spend all day Saturday hydrating and eating some, right? So he'll put it back on Saturday. I don't know how much he can put on in, what is that, 12 hours? Yeah. Yeah, he'll probably put on like 15, 20 pounds.

In 12 hours he can put on that much? Yeah. If you're rehydrating, you put the carbs back in, And, like, the way you lose the weight is, like, you remove the salts, the sodium from your diet, and you go high protein, low carb. And once you start putting carbs and salt back in your diet, you just bloat right up. Really? Yeah.

So then, so what do you think he'll come in at? 2.15? 2.20, I think. Oh, he'll be back up. Right back up, yeah. But even that, Kobe, that drains you, that crash in ad, right? Yeah. Yeah, it does.

It drains you. He's not going to have his normal strength and energy levels. And especially, you know, what we do great at R.F is, you know, we have a, you know, fan engagement that's right after Wayans. It's at noon, and we allow the kids and the families to come out, and they go through the line, and they get to meet all the wrestlers, get an autograph, get a picture, and talk to us, and get that face-to-face interaction before we go out there and compete. Yeah.

So is your strategy, I mean, it's three, two-minute round, so, I mean, as I'm watching you on, I'm going to be watching the second half of round two and round three. That's when this energy issue ought to come in, right? You're right. The first period he's going to be very strong. And my plan of attack is just to put a relentless pace on him, a pace that he's not going to be able to keep up with in the later rounds. So I want to tire him out, hang on his head, put a lot of attacks on and make him think, and then attack him in the later rounds. So he's going to be going for big points in round one.

He's going to be going for the suplexes and that kind of thing. Yeah. He's going to try and over muscle me and overpower me and hopefully get up by 10 points and end it in round one. but, you know, I'm going to be very cautious in my approach and just put a lot of pressure on him. Will you say at 195, you're going to be constant from here to the fight, you feel like? Yeah, yeah, that's like the most I've ever been. You have put on five more or four more? No, I can't.

I've been trying to put on as much weight as I can. I usually walk around about 180 and 190. You know, I fought at 170 in my career, so this is like the biggest I've ever competed at. You've been doing it. Dude, it's been hard. I've been eating pancakes. I've been eating a lot of pasta, a lot of protein. You look, I'm not, I don't mean to sound games.

You look good. Like, you know, thanks, Tala Rico. You know, you're younger than me. But if you had me eat a bunch of pancakes and stuff, yeah, okay, I'll put it on weight, but it's all going to be my face. I know you're trained. That's us. We get puppy. It's too big.

You get puppy. That's why I don't drink. It's going to look awful everywhere. You're adding healthy weight. I guess that's what it is, even though you're eating like that. Yeah. I'm eating the healthy weight. Don't want to be bloated or, you know, feel like sluggish, you know.

Still want to eat like good healthy food. but you know definitely put more calories on than that would you start trying to put on all this way how long's it been take so you put on 20 pounds in what period of time yeah about about about a month four weeks really yeah and my sons need that i'll bring one of my sons at least yeah he's six foot three or four about um 14 45 okay really no he's only 14 15 years old he's on the i've got to add weight i'm going to speak out of turn here will because again at the beginning of the show and then when when he showed up uh you talk a big game can we just can Is there a chance that you could just put them in a little bit of a headlock? No. No. We're not doing that. You don't want to do the huggy take down that you told him.

Your little huggy waist takedown. That's a shoot, Tim. That's a very technical term. Well, that's awesome, man. I'm really, am excited to go. I think this is something along with Fox Nation, those minds that you have involved in this could be incredibly entertaining. Yeah, it is.

And you'll see it. You have to see it, you know, unless you see it, Like, it's really hard to judge it without really being in the arena and feeling the energy, feeling the match, the tempo and everything. I think you're really going to like it. And I think your family will enjoy it as well. All right, I got one more question. I want to ask about the ears.

Okay. I always wonder about this. Yeah. But in wrestling, every time I see wrestling, everybody's wearing headgear. Yeah. So when does it happen? In training? In training, in practice.

Because you don't want to wear headgear in practice? Yeah, because it gets uncomfortable. It's, like, stiffy, you know, because you're, like, really hot. You're exerting a lot of energy, bringing a lot of calories. So, like, you're like, get this head gear. gear off me, you know, you just want to be comfortable. So it's kind of uncomfortable. So, you know, that's when it happens, you know, and it happens when you shoot takedowns and you're using your head to dry them to the ground. No, it's the head to the hip. Oh, really? Yeah, it smashes the head

to the hip and it breaks the cartilage and the tissue up. And that's where the, uh, the call flower forms. And, you know, once it's hard, there's no go back. It's fluid at first, right? It's fluid at first. So I've seen them drained. Drain in a ton. But, you know, you still go back to wrestling the next day. So So it's, you know, it's going to, you know, build right back up. Yeah. And, you know, everybody's always like, oh, why don't you just get it removed? I'm like, I looked at some people that did the plastic surgery, and it looks like deformed. It looks so bad.

Really? Let me see that one. I just got to stay. That one's, you're always using your right side. Yeah, because I'm right-handed. Yeah. Everything's right. It's actually not bad.

I mean, you don't need to get that fixed. Okay, Talarico. Huh? Okay, Talarica. I got a question for you. Real quick, I know we got to wrap up, but, like, I'm sorry. It's your show. We don't have to wrap up.

Do they make you pay for parking downstairs? Because I have to pay for one. No, they do not. I do. Well, I'll get that fixed. I didn't know that. You don't need to be paying for parking. I thought you were asking if they need to pay for parking at R&M.

But for, like, I watched a couple of the matches before I came in. I'm a huge pro wrestling fan. I'm a huge, obviously, that's my nerddom is not Lord of the Rings. It's professional wrestling. The fact that Eric Bischoff, he's a genius when it comes to marketing and branding and creating brands. This is something that's very exciting and taking the tradition. form of wrestling and making it incredibly fun to watch. That all being said, the amount of energy that you put, like, people watch it and they might

go like, oh, that's easy. You must burn 8,000 calories per round, right? I mean, it's just nonstop. Every muscle in your body is working when you do this, right? You're right, you know, from the legs to the shoulders, the back, you know, a lot of back and biceps. You use every muscle in your body, and you use a lot of muscles that you're not used to using. So you exert a lot of energy.

Wrestling is very hard. And, you know, it's like Dan Gable, one of my old coaches said, once you wrestle everything else in life is easy. Now we're just following curiosity. Is, would you say wrestling has as much of a random factor as fighting does? So, in other words, I was listening to some guys eulogize Kyle Bush. I don't know if you ever met Kyle, the NASCAR driver who just died a week ago. And they were talking about where NASCAR is that one of the problems for the last 20 years, NASCAR has been that it hasn't had a consistent star. Kyle was actually probably as close as they got.

And you need that consistent star, you know, Rhonda Rousey for the women's game, right? Yep. What happens is the casual fan now has somebody they can identify with and start to root for. And if you have constant turnover, it's hard, you know, because you never have enough time for the star to become someone that can break into the casual fan and then grow the fan base, right? Yep. And so that's kind of where NASCAR is. golf has the same problems when it doesn't have a Tiger Woods or whoever. And I would say UFC or MMA has that same trouble because you could be great.

John Jones's name has been there for a long time, right? But you're going to, he's actually a rarity. Like a lot of guys are champions for a few months and then they lose because there's a randomness to a potential fight. What is wrestling like in that respect? Are there guys that dominate for longer periods of time or does it have a huge sort of random factor as well? I know random is not the right word, by the way. Yeah. I don't know what the right word is, but it's kind of the idea that anybody could win on any given day. Yeah. Yeah. It's, no, there's definitely, you know, some wrestlers like Jordan Burroughs. He was like the main wrestler from America. He was Olympic champ, world champ, and he was dominating for a long time. But what's, what's a long time?

Like a decade, probably. He was like the man for a decade. But besides that, yeah, it's kind of random. Like, anybody could win on any given day, you know, just whoever makes the best adjustments and comes in. the most well-trained with the best game plan is probably going to win. But what's held back wrestlers, like, from becoming mainstream and becoming, like, a big sport is, you know, they just, they don't have personas. They don't have character. They don't have, like, that flair that people want to see, you know, they want to, people want to, they want to be drawn to something and they want, you know, they want to be excited for it. The showmanship part of it. Yeah, the entertainment aspect, you know, and wrestlers just don't have that. They're just humble guys.

They'll wrestle anybody on any given day, and they just show up, make weight. and wrestle. They don't realize... Like hockey players? Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. They don't realize the promotion behind it and like the marketing that goes into it.

And like the way we're going to move the sport forward and making a mainstream sport is to, you know, get outside your shell and, you know, talk to talk and walk to walk. All right. So it's Real American Wrestling. RIF 9. Yeah, Real American Freestyle. Real American freestyle. Yeah. Rath.

Rath. He's got it on his jacket. Yeah. It is a college park center end out. Yeah, Arlington. When's it start? It starts at seven, so it'll go from seven to ten. Okay.

I can't wait to go. I really can't wait to go. We're excited to have you. We appreciate you coming out. I don't know this other guy, so I hope you whip his ass. Kobe Covington, good to have you, man. Thank you. Tim Young.

We can watch that at home, too? Thanks. My Fox Nation. Yeah. Smart. See? We see what you do. You can watch it on Fox Nation.

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