Will Cain Country - Did Tim Walz Dodge Military Deployment?

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

Story #1: Vice Presidential Nominee Tim Walz and the Harris campaign repeat the ridiculous lie that Senator J.D. Vance had relations with a couch. Plus, how the Minnesota governor dodged military deployment when he was in the National Guard. 'Off The Rails' with Will's FOX & Friends Weekend co-host, Pete Hegseth.  Story #2: Folksy and moderate or an avowed socialist who let Minneapolis burn during the 2020 riots? Can Vice President Kamala Harris continue to run a campaign on vibes, or will she and Walz have to account for their record?  Story #3: A conversation with The Willitia & the listeners, plus how are the people of Maui recovering one year later? Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, the campaign for Kamala Harris. And vice presidential nominee Tim Waltz repeat the ridiculous lie that J.D. Vance had sex with a couch. We've hit a new low off the rails with Pete Hegg said. Two, folksy and moderate. or the man who let Minneapolis burn. Can you run a campaign on vibes or do you have to ever account for your leadership? Breaking down the governor's office that wanted to raise the windows and smell the fires burning. Smell the tires burning in 2020.

Three, you, the listener, the viewer of the Will Kane show, interacting with the Willisha. Plus, as we approach one year, where do we stand today in Lahaina, Maui? It is the Will Kane show, streaming live at Fox News.com and on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and always on demand by subscribing at Apple or Spotify. You can listen to the Will Kane show whenever and however you like. Always on demand. If you want to watch the Will Kane show, whenever and however you like, simply subscribe on YouTube. We've got a big show today.

We're going to have fun. We're going to go off the rails with Pete Heggsett. This morning on Fox & Friends, I did a little episode, a little segment of off the grid with Pete Hegset. We are working on dominating, monopolizing the off market when it comes to television. Maybe we're off-brand television. You know, while sports television all rushes to see who can stake their claim to the unshows, you know, undefeated, undisputed, we're over here, value buyers, just dominating the off-market when it comes to television.

But there was a moment this morning when I was on Fox Influence that my wife just got tickled. She really got a good laugh. out of Steve Ducey saying goodbye to me and Pete Hague said. Here, watch, I introduce you to off the grid with Steve Ducey. I have a fridge full of them in my office, so I don't know what it is about Diet Mountain Dew. I can't endorse Tim Walsh's use of it, but it does keep you awake, and it has no calories. And Will says it all right there, just with a little laugh. Yep, that's my Mountain Dew Buddy right there.

Not a Diet Mountain Dew guy. Not being on Diet Mountain. That's my Mountain Dew Buddy. She whipped out her phone. She took a video. She sent it into the Will Kane show. She loved it. That's my Mountain Dew Buddy.

Let's get to it with my Mountain Dew Buddy with story number one. He is my co-host on Fox and Friends Weekend. he is the host of Off the Grid on Fox and Friends and off the rails on the Will Cain show He is a resident of Tennessee and just got back from a vacation in Montana Give me a second, Hegg says Well, I figure out how to direct this show

You've got a fancy new studio But it's really the robot's out of control You're killing me over here, my I thought I had it all dialed in I thought I had it all dialed in That was a really nice attempt by a producer To do a bump shot that started on the Tennessee flag And then zoomed out and pervaded it was a nice attempt

It went off the rails But it was good And I like your get up there It's cute As is the As is appropriate for Off the Rails Your producer and director

who couldn't operate the robot cam is yours truly. It is the multi-talented Will Kane, host and director of the Will Kane show. I got a Zoom button, Heggseth, and I've got a robot cam, and I'm awful. I'm literally awful at all of it, but I'm working on it. You can see, this is- That's cool. This is bringing you around the studios of the Will Kane show. Wow, I like that a lot. That's cool.

Where I brought you in. What I brought you in with a Tennessee flag and a little zoom in from the Montana flag. We're going to get to your trip to Montana here in just a moment. But I had to bring you in, my Mountain Dew buddy here into the weekend show. What's the Texas equivalent of Mountain Dew, Will? What is your version? It feels like if you got J.D. Vance and you got Tim Walts, we're both from Minnesota. Tennessee is where Mountain Dew came from, by the way, originated from Tennessee.

That's maybe why it's so popular around here. And what is it for you? What a Texans drink that keeps them awake but doesn't give them calories? But is that really, I mean, I've never looked over at you in the mornings on Saturday drinking a Diet Mountain Dew and thought, that's regional. The answer to your question is Dr. Pepper. I mean, without a doubt. I mean, Dr. Pepper's on base percentage in Texas has to be, you know, it's slugging well over a thousand in Texas. And it's putting a Hall of Fame numbers.

But has your age group, our age group, reached the spot. We're at Diet Dr. Pepper, and we're continuing what we did as teenagers. Yeah, okay, so I love Diet Dr. Pepper. It's amazing. Yeah, I mean, I think, I don't see it, like, all the time, but I do know some people say, yeah, I'll take a Diet Dr. Pepper. But here's what's curious to me. Are you saying that Mountain Dew is sort of the Midwestern Dr. Pepper? Like, the fact that you and Tim Walts, also from Minnesota, and J.D. Vance from Ohio, all like Mountain Dew, is that regional?

And it's big here in Tennessee. I'm actually not, I'm not making that up. It was founded and originated in the Mountain Dew's moonshine originally, and that's where it came from. So I think it is regional. I think there is a Midwest-Southish Mountain Dew. I'm making this up. I have no idea, but I have three data points. three data points um i actually think a mountain do might make my top five like if i were making a soft drink top five it might just it might get there um dr pepper is clearly number one i don't mean to lean into the stereotype but it is it's just amazing um and mountain dew i really like do you know what i think is underrated Pepsi i think because so many people love coke they hate Pepsi and i'm here to tell you i don't hate Pepsi i don't know that i'm telling you it's better than Coke, but I'm not super disappointed. Like, if I go at a restaurant and they're like, we're not a Coke restaurant, we're a

Pepsi restaurant, okay, cool. Time for, let's vary it up. I'll have a Pepsi. And Mountain Dew is a Pepsi brand, so anytime I see Pepsi, I'm happy because then I get the alternative. I also love Diet Pepsi over Diet Coke. And so I'm in the family of brands squarely. Yes. All right, let's get to this ridiculous story, man. This is something else. And I've, I don't even know. I didn't text you ahead of time that I said I want to talk about this. So I'm actually curious. I'm going to start with the question. Do you know the J.D. Vance Couch story? I've seen it. We'll get into the Montana vacation thing. So some of that is I was watching from

a far more casually. I wasn't doing what we normally do throughout the course of a week, which is consuming actively the news and preparing for segments that we're doing. So we're diving into the details of what the facts are and what everyone's saying. And as a casual viewer, I was sort of saying, this seems weird and it's already been discredited by people who would otherwise likely want it to be true so i don't know it sounds weird and it's ridiculous and i dismissed i was on vacation as well that i missed that's how i consumed it yeah i missed it totally i was on vacation and the thing is i don't think if anybody's listening that you would have heard this story unless you were like super plugged into social media i think there's many people listening right now um

on YouTube, on radio, who probably don't know what we're talking about. Okay? Now, the story is as follows. I'll tell you the story first. And I feel a little even weird talking about it, Pete, because not because of it's salaciousness, but like, it's a ridiculous lie. And so do you even give credence,

totally made up? Do you give credence to it by playing defense? Right? And my initial answer was no until yesterday. day, Pete. Okay, so here's the story. The story is that J.D. Vance, this is the story, wrote in Hillbilly elegy, cited on a specific page that he had sex with his couch, that he turned a latex glove inside out and stuffed it between cushions and had sex with his couch. Okay? That's the story. Now, to your point, I'm going to see if I can bring this up

here in the Will Kane Studios. I've already failed miserably at my directing, but I want to bring up the fact check on this the the real story here of what happened um and this is according to cracked dot com i mean i don't really know how much i'm supposed to trust it but i'm going to read you the the fact check okay p it's um so the jokes it's a joke the story is clearly untrue i'm reading now but nobody seems to mind the joke's longevity um has now been further extended by vance himself after he made a comment about his wife forcing him to sleep on the couch. I'm not sure that him leaning into it or not. It's unclear how many, it's unclear how many injuries were sustained by people frantically

rushing to their devices to make the jokes. Here's how it began. An account named Rick Roodcaves on Twitter created the joke, made a fake citation to, to, Hillbilly Elgy, meaning it gave page numbers, right? But it completely made up. And then it's been repeated by Kamala H.Q. On Twitter, so that's, that's a, that's a campaign account. But here's, here's what I think is fascinating.

I'm going to read you this. Rick Roodcaves told Business Insider that he was inspired by Lyndon Johnson's infamous, perhaps apocryphal, quote, pig effort strategy. I don't know if you remember that history, Pete. It's in which he asked his campaign manager to invent a salacious, pork-based rumor about a political opponent. This was written about in Hunter S. Thompson's

fear and loathing on the campaign trail. Johnson knew it was a false allegation, totally untrue, but he, quote, wanted to make that son of a bitch deny it. So you're winning by making them say, oh, whoa, I didn't have sex with a couch. So that's the couch story. It's totally made up.

And before I toss it to you, this is why I wanted to bring it up. Because this is Tim Waltz in his introductory press conference yesterday with Kamala Harris in Pennsylvania. And I got to tell you, I can't wait to debate the guy. That is as if he's willing to get off the couch and show up. Yeah. I mean, it's illusion to it, right? they're going to they're going to lean in i mean half the reason they chose tim walls is because of his whole weird thing which of course he's the things he and again when we're when we're addressing

it we're losing because we're playing defense because he's the weirdo who's pushing all this weird stuff in minnesota and all of that um but it was it was all meant i mean this this cabs guy who pushed it out is he tied to the campaign i presume not right he presume he's just some guy that pushed something and made up a situation he's just a a poster. Yeah, just a dude on Twitter. If Camel is HQ and Tim Walls are peddling it and they know it's false, then they are using that same strategy.

And listen, they all they do is accuse the right and the left and using, they accuse the right of miss and disinformation. They know precisely that this is not true, but they think the weird thing works and they're going to force them to defend it. And then here we are talking about it. I wonder how often stuff like this actually happens and yet we don't get as clear an opportunity to debunk it because you have a page and a fake citation and you can go to hillbillogy and look at it and say it's not on the page and it's not a real citation how often this happens

where people are forced to defend it imagine donald trump the amount of things he says hey they made that up imagine how often that is the case well let me just give you some of things people say in response to this uh dj crazy crab on twitter says you must be fun at parties it's obviously a joke Look, Donald Trump is damn near a comedy routine up on stage at a rally, right? So I get being funny, being personable, telling a joke. But DJ crazy crap, like if I said, you know, that you, I'm not even going to do it because you might accuse me of libel or slander, right, defamation. But if I said you did some horrific crime over and over and repeated it and, you know, damage your reputation,

I don't know. Is it a defense to go, hey, dude, you must be fun at parties. Take a joke. Like, you just, the stage of a rally is not the place to indulge in a lie created on X.

It's just not. And then I saw somebody else say this, the right has, what was I say? The right has for years leaned into the big mic thing about Michelle Obama. And now this is where you draw the line?

Well, on a minute. I'm not going after Rick Rood Cavs on the internet for making up some ridiculous story. I'm going after a vice presidential candidate for repeating it on the stage of a rally. And I don't know, maybe, I mean, I'm serious.

Has Donald Trump done the big mic thing? Has J.D. fans done the big mic thing about Michelle Obama? I don't think so. And I think there should be a difference. But I see you making a face. I don't know if you know that he has or hasn't. I don't. And I do think you're making

an important distinction. Well, there should be a difference between, yeah, the responsibility of someone and, yeah, and people that post on X and a candidate for president. Absolutely. There should be that type of standard. But someone was asked, asked me recently in an event, what's the, what's one of the biggest challenges you face working at Fox vis-a-vis another network? And I, you know, or the differences between it. And one of the answers I had was, you know, we're confined to actually the truth. Like, I have to feel like I'm working hard to dig to actual evidence. And yes, I will have my opinions and perspectives, but eventually or in real time. And you've been a part of this too.

It's like, where are the receipts? Can you confirm that? Yes, I have opinions, but we still work hard to make sure it's correct. And I think we're at a place where the left is unbridled by truth and facts. And there's the latest evidence of that. That's why I said this morning. I mean, it's a new low. It's a new low.

again i mean i don't i don't know if i'm going to be able to screen i mean of course the response is going to be trump tells lies all the time you know which i i would say just instead of saying that it was a joke get off the couch whatever he's having fun with it get off the couch like he didn't say oh he did this with the couch so they'll just dismiss it and say hey it was an offhand fun comment leave it be you know that's how they'll explain it yeah all right i want to ask you about tim waltz you have been on this story. So Tim Waltz, I was really shocked how much yesterday,

I don't know if you watched that press, that big rally that had Josh Shapiro, Kamala Harris, Tim Waltz. I was shocked how much like Kamala Harris leaned into calling him coach. Like every time, Coach Waltz, coach waltz. You know,

I've always, you and I've joked about it. Like, is coach really one of those titles you keep for life? It is, though. We all do it. You know, even if you've been tried 20 years, if you retire 20 years, you go over to your neighbor's house and they go, hey, coach. Absolutely. But the same thing applies to governor and congressman. So they're clearly doing the coach thing to make him super relatable.

Can I say something about my first? Let me say something about that. Yeah, because I got an email shortly after that speech from, he will remain nameless, but he's been the sports anchor at one of the four networks in Minneapolis. So he was the guy that did sports when I was growing up. You know, the guy, you know, and we had four, five, nine, and 11, ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox. Of course. He did high school sports. You always know who those guys are, right?

Like, so it turns out he's a conservative. He emailed me. He goes, I watched VP, or Walt's VP rollout where he talked about being the coach of Mancato West football to the 1999 state title. And this is the kind of guy that would, like, catalog this kind of stuff, as if he was some kind of second coming of Vince Lombardi. You want the truth? He was an assistant coach.

And I'm pretty sure it was for. the JV or the junior high. In other words, the guy in charge the water bottles in the training kit, okay? Real athletes hate it when other people make false claims about their accomplishments. What a phony. So even the coach side, like, yes, he's a coach, but was he the guy with the headset making the call with two minutes to go on the, you know, five-yard line for the state championship? No.

Tim Walls was also there, and it's fine that other people are also there, but they're playing it up like everything else. You knew their names. Do you, do you have me? Do you know one of the ones in Dallas? He's related. You talk about those four sports anchors, right? And everybody knows them.

I'm going to give you a quiz. One of the four sports anchors in Dallas is related to someone who works at Fox News and has the exact same last name. I'll tell you, they're cousins, first cousins. Can you guess? And I'm going to give you one more hand. Very, very close to your world. Very close.

I'm going to say, I don't know, Will Kane? No. No. In fact, there's been three Fox personalities. There's three Fox personalities until you brought up Lawrence Jones who've been mentioned on this program. You, me, and another one. Oh, Ducey.

Oh, really? I didn't know that. Yes. Ducey's cousin is one of the, I can't remember which one he is. you might be Fox. I don't know if he's Fox actually. I can't remember. But he's the sports guy at one of the big stations in Dallas, Mike Ducey. Okay, but okay, back to the coach thing and what you earned. You've been on this and you brought this up this morning on Fox and Friends. And I'm really, really curious about it because I saw Joey Jones talk about it a little bit as well. This

idea of Tim Waltz's military service and his deployment, tell me about this story. So the reason I'm on it, the reason I was able to jump on it so quick as I've known about it for years and years. I mean, Walls ran for, he was a congressman running on his vet record for a long time. And there's a lot more there, too, of what he voted against. Then he ran for governor and ran for reelection. And I knew a lot of folks involved in the Jensen campaign, which is his most recent reelection effort, where, by the way, Jensen stood at a podium with an empty podium next to him because Walls refused to debate. But it was a slow trickle because, you know, in the military, guys don't want to speak out and disparage other people that have served. And this is a small trickle.

especially at the level of sergeant major or command sergeant major, there's only a small number of guys that reached that level inside the Minnesota National Guard. So they all know each other. This is a handful of guys in different units that would know all the other sergeants major in the state of Minnesota. We don't have to get into ranks to talk about that, but it's the highest enlisted man inside a unit. So a battalion will have one, a brigade will have one, all of that. And they're in charge of making sure all the NCOs are trained. everybody knows their job they're they're the subject matter experts they maintain standards they're very

important and so walls as a was a sergeant major now when you when you do that as a commander you become a command sergeant major and what the first accusation and really quick you've told me in the past this is like one of the highest respected levels honestly in the military like you know sergeant major your highest level nCOs um are are some of the most respected dudes in the military you told me that before, right? 100%. Just no doubt. And because they've gone through the ranks, they're in touch with NCOs. They're the chief advisor to the to the, to the commander. So the commander has a different set of training than enlisted guy. There's a whole thing there. But he, they're very well respected. And you would, you would think. So first of all, if you become a command sergeant major,

that's a new title because you're in a command. And there's a stolen valor argument being made against Tim Walls because he owns the, he says he's a command sergeant major, even though he never really fulfilled his time as a command sergeant major, so he really should just go by sergeant major walls, which is still fine. But I find that less offensive. It's like a small technicality thing, which is correct, correct, but not as significant as the fact that he was the sergeant major, soon to be, he was the command sergeant major for a field artillery unit who was slated to go to Iraq. This is 2005. I mean, this is dicey times.

Minnesota National Guard is going to Iraq. And he spent years with this unit, years in the Minnesota Guard, decades. They get notification they're going on deployment. He tells multiple people, well, I'm going. I'm going. I'm in. I'm going. Of course you would be going. This is your unit.

These are your men. These are the men that you've trained that you know that you're invested in. And they're about to go into harm's way. And this is what you've done for 20 years. And you're as prepared as anybody else. wouldn't you want to make sure you're there for your men? Not Tim Walls. Tim Walls found a quiet way around the chain of command to get released from that obligation. I still need to get more information on exactly how he did that. There's different ways to do that. There's a lot of

connections, political connections inside a National Guard. It's inherently more political because it's a civilian military relationship. So he bowed out and shortly thereafter ran for Congress instead of going on the deployment with his unit. Now, he has no defense. for this. He never has been. The Minnesota press is as bad or worse than the national press as far as how complicit they are with Democrats. They're totally in the tank. So they'll never press him on it. It's always the opposing candidate that has to try to raise the issue. And it wasn't until this most recent governor's run where three other sergeants major and command sergeant major came out and said, Tim Walls bailed on his guys. We know it. We were there. He left. He's a

coward it just says a lot about a guy that you would go that that much time in uniform and then make it the central part of who you are and then when it was ready to go play in the super bowl you bail all right this is fascinating to me um so let me just play it may be devil's advocate but just a little bit of curiosity first of all i didn't know you could do that p so you're meaning i didn't know you could bow out like i didn't think it was volunteer deployment i thought if you're in the unit, you get deployed. I didn't know you could say, I'd rather not. But you're telling me there's political ways that you can get out. You are correct technically. You're technically correct. But there are, especially if you're a senior, if you're a sergeant or a private and your unit gets

activated, you're going, right? But if you're a major or a lieutenant colonel or a sergeant major, you might know a technicality or a slot that's open over here that you can get transferred to that's not deployable or a different position or an excuse or you can get diagnosed with something, people get pregnant. Things happen so you don't go on a deployment. And in this case, it's quite obvious he pulled one of those levers because the easiest and most straightforward thing is, all right, my orders are coming. I'm going with my guys.

Okay, so two questions. Would there in your mind be a legitimate reason for him to do it? Before we run to, like, coward, I don't want to go to war. Is there any, like, legitimate, like, I don't think running for Congress would count as legitimate, right? Even if he knew he was going to do that a year away, a career switch doesn't sound like legitimate. My talents are needed in another post, is that?

Like, is there a legitimate reason he would have been reassigned or moved away from combat deployment? There are needs of the Army reasons why that can happen. That's not. If there were a legitimate reason, Tim, Walls would have presented it by now. It's been almost 20 years. He hasn't. He simply says there's disgruntled other members. It was to run for Congress. He shortly thereafter ran for Congress. Now, he ran in 2006 in a highly disputed district, which hadn't gone Republican or hadn't

gone Democrat for a long time. So it wasn't a shoe in race. He could have run in 2008 in a contested race as well. He wanted to get his political career going. He was over, he was done with the military thing. And I know guys who do 19, 20 years are like, oh, man, I just, I was ready to get out and then and that happens. And that's your choice. But they, they retire and go into civilian life. They don't purport to be the commander chief of the National Guard and then be the next second in line to be the real commander in chief. That's, I think, why there's an issue here. So you're saying there are guys that have spent 20 years in military. They're on the verge of retirement. It's like, oh, man, I was just getting ready to get out. I don't want to deploy to war.

sure but on the flip side while i'm granting benefit of the doubt i mean and look who am i i'm an idiot right i'm the idiot that's watched band of brothers right no but i i saw how hard i hard it was for for dick winners to be pulled away from his unit into a leadership post right he wanted to be in the field the point is i've seen and know at least anecdotally something you know firsthand which is if you put this amount of time in with your guys and now it's time to go it does seem like most heroic figures to be like, you're damn straight, I'm going. That's it. That's all the instinct I want. You're damn straight. I'll put pause on my political ambitions.

I'm still young. I don't know how old he was, but he's 60 now. He's in his early 40s. He didn't have to be, this wasn't, didn't have to be the moment. He said, I don't want to do it. You're disrupting my personal plans. What do you think of deployment is? It's the destruction, disruption of your life. That's why you watch the guys that are interviewed and this tape will get played. No, they'll be on our air. the people the sergeant majors who came out these are salt to the earth people these are people i grew up i mean the type of people i knew in the military that i grew up with they're not looking

for fame they don't call people out for their own benefit they're reluctantly coming forward to say that was a cheap move it was a cowardly move and you left your men behind and that's you know i don't know if this becomes a swift boat level thing with john carey from 2004 or not because he's not on the top of the ticket. It is Kamala Harris. But with the contrast of J.D. Vance, who did go when asked to go to Iraq, that's a pre, and he said that today on the air at a rally. You know, I was called and I went.

Tim Walz was called and he didn't. It has a chance of being a pretty significant issue. We'll see. A lot of this feels still very secondary. I haven't read in on this. So I'm asking you in earnestness and curiosity. I've seen it mentioned. I don't know if it has any validity, like stolen valor.

Now, it would only mean to me stolen valor if he's claimed sort of war hero status, right? He hasn't, has he done that? Like, he hasn't gone on to claim big war status after opting out. No, there is a clip on the internet where he talked about grabbing guns, right? He wants to take weapons of war like the ones I carried in war, right? So he's sort of used it as a turn of phrase. that's not a that is not stolen valor that's hubris stolen valor is more concerted than that but he's and i'm sure there's 50 other clips like that it's covering yourself it may not be covering

yourself in glory and valor but it's covering yourself an authority that you do not have absolutely right on carrying a weapon into war the actual i mentioned it at the front quickly but the actual stolen valor part would be using the title command sergeant major instead of sergeant major which I think gets into a lot of technicalities that won't actually grab hold and most people aren't eminently offended by the small distinction between the two, which isn't actually a change in rank,

it's just a change in title. So that's the stolen valor charge, which I don't think will take much hold, but there's a reason you could use that phrase. And it's not about saying I was in combat. It's about saying I had a rank that I didn't have. All right. I haven't seen you now.

I haven't seen you for a good to, some odd weeks. And, and, yeah, yeah, I missed you too. You're coming back a broken man. You went to Montana. By the way, my beloved Montana as well, like spent a year of my life up there. I want to hear about that. And I heard you got a, you blew out your, you blew out an ankle.

We can go backwards. Yeah, let's go backwards. I will talk about your beautiful state of Montana because it's unbelievable. And I've been there before, but this was up in the whitefish area, which is near Canada. It's just absolutely gorgeous. Oh, fancy. It's like saying you went to Vail.

What? Fancy. It's like, I went to Colorado. Where'd you go? Aspen. Oh, is that? Is white fish like the fancy part? I didn't know that.

I mean, we went to a rodeo. It wasn't very fancy. Anyway, we'll get into that. Hold on. But yesterday was my, was Boone's 12th birthday. And all he wanted to do was play slip and slide with a ball,

which is where you have a slip and slide to every base. and you sprinklers going everywhere and then you put soap on the slip inside so it's super slip and they had a ball right

I mean it was it was a lot of fun and we played for hours played two really long game successfully and I told Jen I'm like hey we're gonna play one more

she's like really one more like yeah I'll play one more with the kids there's a bunch of kids over here and one of the kids hits a fly

to left field I'm playing left field and you know that little change my dad by the way is pitching so my dad's here grandpa's here

and he pitch and you know make a change of direction and it slipped and I went over the front of my toes and then fell back over my knee. It's a classic ACL old man tear like oh yeah yeah yeah my foot my knee went down but my whole body went back over the knee and then I awkwardly fell like this and like let out a squelch and all the kids laugh and they're like because the ball is going and everything and my dad screams oh no stop the game oh no he's hurt and I'm telling you I I can, I can, I did not tear my ACL, but I should have.

And instead, I just had my ankle my ankle. I mean, I don't know what I did. I don't know if I have to go in. I don't know if it's slightly broken or not, but I'm limping around. And it would be a great excuse not to do the seal swim this weekend if I had been training, but I wasn't. So I can't use it as an excuse. It was, okay, couple of things.

It was an old man fall. Couple of things. It could have been really bad. Thankfully, it was horrible. You should be glad. Yeah, you should be really happy you're not doing the seal swim this weekend. because there are current updates through today on whether or not it will be canceled because of weather. And unfortunate thunderstorms, which now look like they have passed, so we'll be doing it in the rain,

but we've threaded the needle to the worst possible situation. It's on in the rain, but swells could be salty. And there is nothing worse. And you know this. You hated the little bit of wind chop we had last year. swimming in the swells of the Hudson with it just crashing against your face while you're trying to breathe it's going to be it's going to be bad dude it's going to be fast and what does it start i think it starts at 930 right eastern so you'll miss the just back part of the show

oh man it's 830 so it's a real awkward thing where i don't even know if i'll be in studio but anyway yeah you got to come in studio anyway well you'll do it and you'll do it well by the way people should tune in on Saturday. It's always awesome to watch. He will kill it in the swells because the guy could swim like a, I don't know, like a college athlete. Well, I still have trained zero yards. No. Zero yards.

Zero yards? I swim in the ocean. Well, in a pool. So I don't know how many. I did swim in the ocean in Hawaii four times. So I did stretch it out a little bit. But, yeah, it's going to be a lot rougher for me than it was last year. A lot rough.

What are you doing? Very little training. Yeah, so this is like going in reverse. The first year you didn't train, the second year you did train. Yes. And by the way, I just, just, just for the Willisius information, the second year went great, and the first year did not. So that's what you might have in front.

That's the year you were towed. Yeah. You had to get towed by Jesse. I don't think you're going to get towed, but it might not be the nice sale you had last year. Right. What kid cranked it in Wiffleball that made you have to switch directions and run backwards? The neighbor kid. The neighbor kid.

He showed up with a lot of, it wasn't one of my kids. Neighbor kid just showed up with a stick and wiffleball, huh? I don't know. It was really awkward, Will. It was not like I was running. It was like just a small change of direction and then just over keeled. And then I got up and I was limping and I thought it and a horsefly was trying to bite me. I was slapping and then it hurt my elbow.

My elbow got hurt from just trying to slap the horsefly. And so I just jumped in the pool and went like this. It was not, you know, and the game ended right there. When you said you got hurt, I thought for sure you were going to say on the slip and slide. And it turns out it was in the outfield. Finally, on this last, before we move on, were you a laffer when your friend got hurt when you were little? Like I laughed.

If I were there, oh, yeah. But my best friend when I was growing up, he was the worst. I mean, he laughed like he'd heard the funniest joke in the world. We used to have this thing in my hometown of Sherman, Texas, called Hospital Hill. I mean, because it was, and I broke my leg on Hospital Hill in the winter. But one of the things that you try to do is ride your bike down Hospital Hill. I broke it sledding. Or even more crazy, skateboard down Hospital Hill, right?

But whether or not it was the bike or the skateboard, you'd get the speed wobbles, right? You know, uh, uh, uh, uh, as you start picking up. And then you start over-correcting. The next thing you know, you're sliding down asphalt, and I remember doing that and just strawberries up all over my body, and as much as it hurt, pain was not greater than the anger I felt at my friend laughing so hard at all of my injuries in my fall. I get it. That's why I'm glad my dad was there.

He recognized the seriousness of it, and he tended to my wounds. Yes. I hospital hill I'm going to try that yeah yeah I'll take you back there we can we can hit hospital hill um okay last topic with you here uh yesterday I did watch Tim Walts I watched Kamala Harris finally I watched Josh Shapiro the governor of Pennsylvania introduced them Pete man audience better understand that dude is pretty good I mean pretty good he can deliver a speech And there's some saying that Kamleres didn't pick him because he would have outshined her. And let me tell you some.

He outshined both of them yesterday. But whatever it is, he was not picked. And it's really interesting as to why he was not picked. She needs Pennsylvania. He's really good. At this point, I mean, in order to win election, even if your backup is better than you, if it helps you win an election, you got to take that. So why? And this fascinating discussion took place on CNN about why Shapiro was not picked by Harris.

Watch. So having that kind of response, I think, is probably more of an open door to the parts of the party that have been very frustrated with the Democrats. So, but just to one point on the, on the, on the Gaza War, Shapiro has the same position on Israel that Governor Walls, that Senator Kelly has. He's actually been more critical of Netanyahu. than the other two, but he is Jewish. He's also the face of the crackdown on the protests, right? He spoke very vehemently about those campus protests as being anti-Semitic. Not all of them, the ones that were anti-Semitic, he criticized as being anti-Semitic.

He was out front on the issue. So I'm wondering if that's the kind of thing that, again, for the activist wing of the party, they thought it was a slap in the face. I don't know if you can hear that, Pete, in any other way than to hear he was too Jewish for the activist party. It wasn't his policies. It wasn't a differentiating factors. Tapper points out. He didn't call the protests anti-Semitic at large. Tapper says just the ones that were clearly anti-Semitic. So what is it other than his name is Shapiro and he's Jewish that disqualified him from the other candidates to be vice president i think i think that's a huge part of it i was also

i was almost certain again casually reading the news when on vacation looking at the who's up who's down it just felt like time and time again it was going to come back to shapiro okay they may have a difference of opinion but he i looked into it yes he had moved his position whether it was more pro-israel or not more toward the kamala harris base of the democrat party position because he knew he had to be palatable to be the vice presidential pick he was playing the game yet at the same time he'd won 60% of the vote in pennsylvania uh and ultimately uh obviously they knew he was charismatic um i i don't know i i think that the jewish thing was part of by the way from what i understand i'd have to verify this but i think josh superior jake

chaper went to high school together or college together like they know each other fairly well so jake tapper has been a defensive of him or would know his his background i don't i don't have that verified. So that's just something I've heard from people I would deem credible. I think it's more so that Kamala Harris is exceedingly thin-skinned and exceedingly unsure of herself and picking somebody who's that ambitious and that is the big work. I mean, every politician is ambitious. But Josh Shapiro is on hyperdrive on that from people that that I've spoken to that know him, that know his trajectory. He's just really good and knows it. And even the interviews portrayed a little bit of that to Kamala Harris. She can't have that. It shows you how insecure she likely is in that that was

enough to cause her pause to go with a comfy shoe than the shoe in. It wouldn't be a shoe in, but a head start on winning Pennsylvania, which means you win the White House. But I also think the, listen, picking Tim Walz means picking Ilhan Omar, which means going with Rashida Talib wing of the party, which is really safe right now inside the modern Democrat party, saves you a lot of headaches. that you wouldn't other that you would definitely have with Josh Shapiro maybe turns the temperature down in Chicago at the at the convention maybe that was part of the deal too. We know the Democrat Party has an anti-Semitism problem that's quite evident. And I think they don't want to talk about this being part of it. But if it wasn't the lead part, it was definitely part of it. How can you just talk

openly about while he's just Jewish? He's too Jewish. I mean, how Jewish can it be? It's like, well, when did that disqualify? It's almost like saying, well, he's just too black or he's to this or you do that like that shouldn't be the qualification on any direction but clearly it's top of mind for too many democrat i just i love the analogy of tim waltz being a comfy shoe i got to thinking about like what kind of shoe is tim waltz and i was like is he a hey dude but a hey dude is a little too southern right like i mean a lot of dudes walk around SEC country and some hey dudes and then i got to thinking well maybe he's a crock you know like a foam slip of crock but I think crocs are probably bipartisan so then I was like well he's probably a

Birkenstock like if he's a if he is a comfy shoe those might be getting my sons wear Birkenstock so I don't know I don't know what comfy shoe is Tim Walts I think Tim Walts is the 1990s 2000s all white Reebok shoe worn by every gym teacher in America all right that's what he is see but the thing is see the problem with your thing is in two a days my producer just jumped in as well and said he's a new balance and i don't think you guys are keeping up with the times i think you need to understand young kids are wearing burkenstocks they are wearing new balance new balance is super in which i like by the way because new balance is american i need to get me some new balance um and the young kids pete

are wearing those dad shoes you're talking about you're talking about like the air monarch 2000s, which are Nike's and then the Reebok clunky white ones. Those are in, man. That's like not frumpy old Tim Walts. All right. My wife's right here.

That's stylish Gin's ear. She just said, do you even know what hey dudes are? And I don't even know what a hey dude is. I don't even know what that is. She had a guy dude's. What are they? I can see you wearing some hey dudes. I don't know.

Look it up on your computer right now. It's like a hey dude is like, it's like a canvas slip on, but chunky. Oh, yeah, everybody's wearing those, these. Even some of the cowboys at the ranch we were at were wearing these. Hey dudes. I'm like, where are your cowboy boots? And they're wearing hey dudes.

I know. They're not a good look. I don't care of how popular they are. They're not a good look. I agree with you. Yeah, those are true. What is the liberal comfy shoe? Yeah, but I don't know what the gym teachers are wearing these days.

Whatever it is, that's Tim Walls. Is it an on cloud? I just bought some on clouds. I finally cave. the ultimate white people too i just got one i did i did do that i didn't get the ones i liked him i got the roger federer version i really liked it uh and i you and i went through our jordan phase together and i had to stop i had to stop not just because nike's woke that was your reason mine is because i'm too old at this point i think i'm too old to be wearing jordan no there's no don't give in on

that no uh-uh now i think we're buying whatever these are on clouds is where you look at a dude what is the shoe where you look at a dude and you go he's a lib you know you can do it just i'm trying to think what the shoe is maybe tom's what about tom's may oh yeah for sure you know i think i am real suspicious of any shoe without socks that shows a disproportionate amount of the top of the foot like not flip flops but any loafer i'm just i know that that a lot of dudes out there likes them. I think my guy James in the studio likes those shoes. I think the top of your foot is effeminate.

I don't want to see it. I don't want to see any veins or pale skin. So that one always throws me for a... Well, once again, I've got to give it to Mrs. Hakeset for the Tom's call. She whispered that in my ear like a good producer. I couldn't tell you a shoe at all. Hey, Pete, I think I have one. I was a guy with many lefty friends. The vans are a lefty shoe.

I think slip on vans are a lefty shoe. But if I see someone... Oh, got them. I'm guilty. I know, but if I see someone with Slip-on vans, I think, Lefty. I see the newer version of the old-school suede's here. I feel like those are, yeah, I don't know. I think we've become a monoculture, Will. We've become your troublesome monoculture.

We're adopting each other's footwear, and it's unidentifiable, whether you're a lib or a conservative. Even cowboy boots. No. There's some, like... That whole hipster, Brooklyn, lefty, let's look like we're mountain men. I think that they're doing like, I can't put on a pearl snap. I can't look at a pearl snap shirt and go left or right. And I'm not sure you can do cowboy boots.

You can do cowboy boots, but you're not batting a thousand. You're like in the 70s. I'm going to bat 90% with this one. How about TiVas? All right. 100% lib. Can confirm. Confirm. Yep. Can't confirm. On a man.

Good one. Kiva's. Yes. It used to be Birkenstock. She wins again today. We should have her on. Jen is just nailing. We should have her on. Forget. Off the grid with Eat and Will. Off the camera with Will and Jen. That's right. All right, man. Always good to have you. Go enjoy the rest of your day with your wife. All right. All right. Thank you, brother. Um, see you. Uh, as Pete Hegg said, um, check him out everywhere.

Most notably Fox and Friends Week in Fox Nation. Mr. Danny Heim on YouTube says, Coke was good, but now it is bad. Has Coke changed? I mean, like recently? I'm unaware of the formula change in Coke. Chief Walk-on on YouTube says Pepsi sucks. I get it like if you're picking the whole team thing.

I'm not really on a soft drink team. Um, so I'm not disappointed sometimes. Just a nice, ice cold Pepsi. Yeah, that's refreshing. refreshing. All right, coming up, defining Tim Walts, the attempt to make him folksy and moderate versus who he actually is, and what many are calling, the furthest left Democratic ticket for president ever. Next on the Will Cain Show. It is time to take the quiz.

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Instagram. We'll bring you into the show here in the third segment. We're going to bring you in, the Willis show. So, right now, the Harris waltz ticket is essentially running for the presidency on vibes, like good vibes. It's all enthusiasm and smiles. I find it fascinating on the vibes how many people are turned off by Kamala Harris. I got to be honest, like, I don't see it as much as everybody else. Like, one of the producers of the Will Kane Show Young Establishment, James, said recently that she makes his blood boil.

And I'm already hearing this from some women, like, can't stand her. And she's not Hillary Clinton to me, like on the whole just superficial, stylistic effect on people. But she's got a phoniness to some that is really rubbing them a wrong way. Like, I watched, I felt that way, I'll tell you guys in New York, I felt that way with Tim Waltz yesterday watching. So what I'm talking about, and I'm not trying to be, you know, cheaper. partisan like just watched him coming out on stage and there's a lot of heart touching and constant laughing to no apparent joke you know you can't hear him but he's behind Kamala Harris and she'll be like hello Philadelphia and he'll just erupt into a joke like

Dave Chappelle just said something great and I'm like there's nothing that funny nothing happened nothing made you laugh like that and he was just giving me super phony vibes but I'm hearing, like, and I know Kamala's phony with her laugh, I know that, it's just like the vibes thing tackling, Jacqueline Kamala The vibes thing, I don't know, man, I do believe style and superficiality play a big role in a lot of people's decision

making and I'm not sure how she's playing to not just a lot of independence but a lot of women stylistically. I think the fact that we know that is part of what makes the blood boil so much because we know that she's portraying a lot of this election in 35 to 45 second clips that look really good to a passer by voter. And I think it's just really hard to watch it. Like if you have it on the screen for half an hour, you can tell that she's incompetent and not an intelligent person. But that's just not getting through to the middle of the country. Back to the vibes thing. I mean, they're running a TikTok campaign. I mean,

I mean, there's, like, kids doing dances. We're on TikTok right now. Right. Yeah. But I got to tell you, the 35-second world is really, I think it's really powerful. I know it's powerful in media. And the four of us have talked a lot about this, because I'm going to be real with you. We have not mastered the 45 seconds of media.

I think that the Will Kane show is a really good one-hour show, radio show, podcast, show. I think we're doing things, having a conversation with the audience, offering you unique and insightful opinions, if I do say so myself, and subjecting ourselves to debates and having in-depth interviews that is not one of a kind. I mean, I think there's some good stuff out there. Rogan's doing great work and others, but unique, a rarity. But we have not mastered, and I'm on these guys a lot, but we've not mastered the 45-second, the 35-second clip on Twitter, on Instagram. And there are a lot of shows in media

that are really popular and really good in those clips. And I'm like, wow, that show is really successful. And then I watch it, and it's not good for 40 seconds. It's good for 35, maybe, and then it's not good for 40. And you're making the same argument about Kamala.

It's really powerful in media to be good for 30 seconds. And I don't know if she can run a campaign on vibes in TikTok. and 35-second clips. I would like to think no, because I would like to hope media, public appetite,

and especially leadership for the country, it matters for you to have more depth. The thing is, if you're good in 35 seconds, you should be able to be judged bad in 35 seconds as well. And what I mean by that is if someone lays out who they are in 35 seconds, we'll listen to him.

I mean, listen to Tim Walts. tell you his political philosophy in 30 seconds. But we can get out there, reach out, make the case. And for one thing, don't ever, don't ever shy away from our progressive values. One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness. Should Minnesota be a sanctuary state? If the definition of that is that the federal government enforces immigration law and local law enforcement enforces local law, then yes.

Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities? Yes, local control. All right. Number two, it seems like elected officials are always surrounded by lots of people, staff, other lawmakers. What is the last thing that you did truly out in the public, truly by yourself? I went to Menards and bought an air filter for my furnace. Offering driver's license to illegal immigrants, Bill signed in Minnesota. Creating sanctuary cities.

Minnesota. opening up bathrooms, by the way, public schools in Minnesota to tampons for transgender, what is that? Dudes who say they're girls? Not moderate. Boys playing girls' sports. Far left.

And describing socialism as someone else's definition of neighborliness, not moderate. Now, if that is what Tim Walts wants to tell you, If he wants to tell us that, maybe we should dig into what his definition of neighborliness is because during COVID, he was one of the most stringent, strict governors in the nation. Going so far as to encouraging his residents to report on their neighbors if they're breaking COVID violations and watching as Minnesota literally burned, Minneapolis burned, in neighborhoods during the George Floyd riots of 2020.

This is the governor's wife, the first lady of Minnesota, talking about her neighborliness. I would say those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires. And that was a very real thing. And I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening.

Businesses burning down in Minnesota was a touch tone that need to be reminded of, not in a negative fashion, but to understand the depth of passion of the riots in 2020 in Minnesota, maybe their definition of neighborliness isn't yours, isn't mine, isn't moderate. Maybe their definition of neighborliness is close.

to the definition of socialism. And maybe if you can judge a man by his neighbors or his friends or his fans, we should listen to who's excited about Tim Walts as the pick to run along with Kamala Harris. He has been celebrated by Ilan Omar. He has been celebrated by Alexandria Ocasio-Cartez. He has been celebrated by Jamal Bowman,

former member of the squad, now voted out in a Democratic primary, watch it's waltz baby let's go high school teachers stand up public education stand up educators stand up young people stand up working class people stand up it's waltz baby let's go tim waltz in the building time to win in november y'all let's go all hands on deck no staying at home let's go he's doing what is he doing first take is he doing um you know a pre-game walkout? Is he doing W.W.E. Stiles politics?

The truth is, he's doing none of it anymore because he lost a Democratic primary. He's excited. By the way, Walt seems to have the support of the entire squad. Your second member of the squad has lost in a Democratic primary. Corey Bush, now out.

So as the Democratic voter base begins to reject these crazy far leftists like Bush and Bowman, Kamala Harris picks somebody they all love in Tim Walts. Foxy? Maybe.

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User FL3 and D-2-B-U-6-I asks me, why is no one talking about Maui anymore? Weird. I'll give you an update. It was just there last week in just a moment here on the Wilcane show. Let's bring the guys back in in New York. Tell me, what are people saying today? What are we hearing from the Wilicia two days?

So it's been interesting in the chat. There's been a lot of Kamala support in our chat today, which is interesting. I think people are going out and drove to, you know, like you were talking about, to support Kamala. But we've had some in the past couple days that have been interesting. This one was from yesterday's show. Shapiro can deliver PA to Kamala and run for office later. That may be. Well, first of all, if I'm Josh Shapiro, I think I don't want to be her running mate.

I don't want to be. I don't know what the odds are. One of you guys can look at up. What's the betting markets right now? Trump versus Kamala. Trump, my. have be up like 52, 53%, not polling betting markets, but it's, it is, it is basically, it's a coin flip at this point.

Even so, if I'm Josh Shapiro, I don't bet on Kamala. I just think that's a bad bet. This is a woman who polled at one, was she get one percent in the Democratic primary? She got zero votes, meaning one, no states, no delegates, no nothing during the Democratic primary. I have it. She was, what's up? I have it.

So Donald Trump, 52.15 percent chance to win election. and Kamala, 45.68% betting odds. Oh, that's a seven point swing, though. Yeah, that's Action Network.com. That's a coin flip, though. I wouldn't bet on Kamala if I'm Josh Shapiro. I think he's got bigger political aspirations and prospects than being a vice presidential candidate

with someone who I think has a better than average or better than not chance of losing. Like, if he's the vice presidential candidate on a losing ticket, I don't know what the future looks like after that. I can't think who is lost as the second and gone on in the future to be the lead in one, tinfoil. I was just going to say, never mind. I don't know the answer.

There's not. Jack Kemp was the star of the GOP, a former NFL quarterback in the 1990s, and then he hooked on to Bob Dolal, who lost 400, electoral votes and we don't really talk about him much anymore. I think we're not going to hear much about Gavin Newsom anymore either. Joe Lieberman, you know, you just didn't hear anything about him after he lost in 04. But, I mean, who do Graham Ford back in 76? Rockefeller. Nelson. Nelson. Yeah.

I don't think it would have been smart for Shapiro. I think that going on his own in 28, I disagree, by the way. We haven't heard the last of Gavin Newsom. In 28, you're You're looking at Shapiro. You're looking at Newsom. I don't think you're looking at Kamala in a re-election campaign. And so I think it's wise for him not to run with her. He may still, to the commenter's point, they'll be able to deliver Pennsylvania two days.

Yep. So I got another one. This one I found to be pretty common these days, this back and forth with these two YouTube commenters, if you want to read that one. Bob Woods 1302 says the GOP are so weird these days. I mean, I'm going to, before I read, okay, so Hugh, I can't read that. You know, I can't read that.

Look at me. I'm so good. I caught myself on the name. You guys did, did you? I actually did. Damn it. I was going to say it for you. But look how.

At this point, I mean, I've been had. I'm multi, I'm multi-talented. I've been had. I'm directing the show. Boom. I'm here. Then I'm here. I got a camera that I can zoom around.

And I am the resident. filter i i can see when someone has gotten me with a name that i cannot read on air i've been had i apologize that's my fault proud of myself for catching it by you but that guy whose name i can't say let's just say his first name is hugh his first name is hugh uh he said why is the dnc so childish today but the first comment are bob i mean do you know when you've and i'm not trying to insult here. Do you know when you've been co-opted into like a drone, you become a drone, you become a bot? Like you are repeating the weird thing because that's what was handed to you. Like there's zero original thought. Zero original thought. You are an echo. You're

something like a mile down the canyon that Tim Walt's here is repeated back to him. And it's random. You just got the word. If we were placing bets right now, Bob has also said pandemic of the unvaccinated. He has said saving, he's in the business of saving democracy. He said that Trump wants to be a dictator day one. What are some other of these? Probably got a Ukraine flag in his Twitter bio. Might.

Might have a Ukraine flag in his bio, right? Yeah. I mean, just come on, man. GOP is so weird. I bet he believes the couch thing The couch thing is I am appall I mean I get it that it's funny and it's crazy

But I cannot believe that Harris And Waltz have repeated it I would love to have a poll In America of Democrats To see how many people believe in that The couch thing We saw the poll that one in three Believed that Trump assassination attempt

I know but one in three That's wild Yikes I saw it a lot I would like to see a poll Yeah Because I want to know How many people

Even heard that story Right Versus how many believe it And how many know It's not true You got anything else For me to a day Yeah I do

I have one that's a little Critical Of You know the GOP A little bit here Debbie Perro here She says Why do Republicans

Constantly criticize each other No Dems do that They know it cost them votes So knock it off Will. Who am I criticize? I mean, I would, without a doubt, I would criticize Republicans, Debbie. But who are we talking about? I think it was yesterday when you were saying, or was it Monday, we're talking about the Big Lebowski quote and how, you know, you're not wrong, you're just an a-hole, that kind of thing. Like, just she probably felt that, you know what I'm saying? Oh, okay. Well, here's my answer to you, Debbie. I'm not doing a team thing. Sorry. Like, I think you have a lot of options, Debbie, if you want to hear pom-poms wave.

In fact, the ready availability of pure propaganda to make you feel better and release endorphins in your brain for confirmation bias is in infinite supply. I'm in the business of the truth. Now, here's the truth. I happen to believe that my principles, my yes, owned biases, and my opinions about the world help me arrive closer to the truth. I believe in the Constitution. I have conservative principles, meaning I value the, I have inherent, I see inherent value

in tradition, which is inherently conservative. I believe in the Enlightenment values, negative rights. I'm a big believer in negative rights, not positive rights. I believe the founders are some of the biggest geniuses to ever grace the face of this planet. And I believe that Democrats largely are driven by a, I mean, on the surface, probably some self-delusioned that they're making the world a better place but really taken by the idea that they want to control everything but that doesn't mean I think that everybody with our bar that by their name is infallible that they're all doing you know just the right thing and if that's what

you want deb I think you're going to be able to find it it just may not be here I also think you're wrong like uh I don't think it's true that Democrats never criticize each other you know I hear that it's both sides do this like The other side is so much better than us and staying unified and doing and playing the harsh game policy. They both do that. I mean, they're in a, they've been in a, Debbie, they just performed a coup on the sitting president of the United States. It's true. Nancy Pelosi just stuck her knife in the back of Joe Biden, but they never criticize each other.

Come on. I would suggest find some people to tell you the truth and trust the truth. trust it to lead the world to a better place I like it all is that it yeah that

you got anything else no we're good that's good we heard from the people all right I want to address before we go today I want to

I just got text from Stephen A. Smith I want to make sure it's not something I need to read on air I don't know it's a link to read something this

this comment why doesn't anybody why is no one talking about Maui anymore weird well I mean I'll give you I don't think there's been a lot of updates on Maui I think that's true and I I for example probably should do it more but you know here's some sad truth about Maui the public moves on people stop caring it's not that I stopped caring I've stayed very involved in the background a natural disaster or even a man-made disaster hits

and you don't hear about it usually after a couple of days like when's the last time you heard about the tornado victims in Moore, Oklahoma, or in Alabama, when's the last time you heard about the condo collapse in Florida? You remember that? All those people sleeping at night, and then all of a sudden, the whole thing collapsed on tops of them? I mean, when's the last time you heard about Palestine, East Palestine, Ohio? I'm not telling you right or wrong, I'm just telling you how it is. And most people don't care for much stuff beyond their front yard. They care about their family. That's why I was so touched that so many people did care about Maui when we raised money to help the people there. Unfortunately, I think the ongoing interest in Maui was driven in part by, I would say, A, how little the government stepped up in the initial phases to help the people of Lahaina, and B, the falsehoods around the story that made it seem like something more salacious than simply a horrible tragedy, direct energy weapons, intentionally set fire for Oprah.

a bunch of nonsense, a bunch of crap. And that's why people have maintained some interest, a few people, longer than they have for other disasters. But true interest, I believe, if you should be caring about the people of Lahaina. Where are they today? I was there last week. I got on to a mule.

I drove through the neighborhood of Wahakuli, tough for me even, and saw the empty lots I got into a truck and drove down front street and here's where you are you're basically if you're lucky and most people are

I'd say we're at 70, 80% of residential lots less on commercial lots at ground zero that means you've been graded down to nothing you've been cleared of debris you've had the toxins taken away still a little more work needs to be done to make it absolutely even on your lot

say you had a home and you have a lot so that you can lay foundation, lay piers, lay beams, lay footings to build a house. I would suggest you it's probable that in the next six months you'll start seeing, I think you've seen one or two, literally one or two, but in the next six months you will see rooftops going up, frames going up of homes. The entire process for it to be built back to look like it was, it'll never look like it was before. One of the famous parts of Lahana is called front street front street had you know shops on both sides water side mountain side the shops on the water side the shops and restaurants will never come back they'll never be back they're never going to

permit those to be rebuilt they have to have a setback from the ocean now that was all grandfathered in it was a historic district it won't be rebuilt the way it was before there will be debate about how far the setback has to be so will there even be a front street will there even be a commercial district right there along the seawall. But for the people of Lahaina, not perfect, but many of them are making do today. They've received a ton of generosity from the people of America. I'll tell you more about that, including, by the way, just while we're addressing some of that conspiracy from Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Oprah. The people's fund, I know for a fact, every single person I spoke to has gotten money. Like 1,200 a month. I believe it was for 10 months that

the Rock and Oprah's People's Fund delivered to every person in Lahaina. So they have had FEMA's backing over the long term to pay for clearing their lots. They've had the generosity of Americans. They're making due, living in Ohana's backhouses, finding new rent. They're having to pay too much for that rent. It's hard. It's hard. But they're making do.

And I suspect to you begin to see rooftops in the next six to 12 months. and you know when people post on social media nothing's happened it still looks like this I don't think anybody understands that's doing that the full extent of the devastation getting back to nothing is actually progress for the people of Maui all right that's going to do it for me today here on the will cane show I will see you again same time same place tomorrow Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast.

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