Will Cain Country - Did Trump Get Balogun's Red Card OVERTURNED? (ft. David Marcus & Geno Bisconte)
Episode Date: July 6, 2026The Left (and Belgium) are crying foul after Folarin Balogun’s red card was overturned following a phone call from President Donald Trump to FIFA, but is it really the corruption scandal they want t...o make it out to be, or simply justice being served? FOX News Columnist David Marcus and Comedian & Host of 'In Hot Water' Geno Bisconte join the show to break down the media meltdown over FIFA’s most recent controversy and remind the public of ‘Will Cain’s Rules for Fandom.’Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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versus the world.
Flo Balligan.
The rescinded red card.
President Donald Trump.
Corruption.
Outrage.
Bring it on, Belgium.
Bring it on Earth.
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Two a days, Dan.
Back from Philadelphia, back from the 250.
Tinfoil Pat and our boy Fox News columnist, David Marcus, the perfect person to hang out on a day when we take on the world.
This is it.
Dave, this is the moment that was needed.
I have been wanting and hoping and wishing for soccer to break through into the mainstream.
For soccer to break through in America.
Now, I have the stats, and I can tell all the conservative stick in the muds.
Hey, we're now number two.
Soccer is more popular than baseball.
It's more popular than basketball.
I can say, hey, Patrick, wake up, you're missing out.
Mexico, England was amazing at the Azteca.
And I can say the lefties that want to treat this like a garage band
that they first found Green Day before anybody else heard of Green Day.
Get out of here.
This thing is supposed to grow.
And I've been wanting that, David, to happen with this World Cup.
And I'm like, will it take a quarterfinals appearance?
Will it take a semifinal appearance?
And we found the answer.
All it took was President Donald Trump pulling a Trump card on a red card and the rest of the world hating America.
And now everybody's in.
Everybody loves the World Cup.
Look, I don't mean to be a spoil sport here.
But like, I don't think Donald Trump had much to do with this.
I think that this is one of those situations and stories where like the left can't resist going, oh my goodness, Trump corrupted the World Cup.
And the right can't resist going, look at what a badass Trump is.
got a red card reverse. When in fact, to your point, Will, I think if you look at this,
the biggest beneficiary here is FIFA, right? I mean, FIFA benefits enormously if the United States
goes through to the quarterfinals. In the short term, they'll make millions of dollars because
the host country's still in it. In the long term, to your point, you're growing billions of
dollars worth of a fan base that they have been after for decades. And the flip side of this is,
let's imagine a scenario where the balligan suspension stands,
and tonight the United States loses 1-0 on a sketchy penalty call late in the game
with our top goal score suspended for no good reason.
That kills a generation of fans.
Kills a generation of fans.
They say, I bought the jersey, I bought in, I tried to learn the rules,
and we got screwed by a bunch of nonsense.
So I think FIFA did this because FIFA had to do this.
What excellent analysis.
I'm dead serious, man.
no gratuitous compliment. What excellent analysis. There's so much more to break down, and we're going to over the next course of the hour, because I can't think of another topic that is worthy of discussion. I can't think of a better topic, and you say to me, Will, we just celebrated our 250th birthday. True. And that's part of this story. This story is everything. This story is sports. The story is culture. The story is capitalism. This story is global politics. And we're going to break down almost every angle. But, David, I love that analysis. And here's, here's.
Here's why. It does seem obvious, and I've seen people say, FIFA needs the U.S. market.
They need the next rights deal to go through the roof. In order for it financially to go through
the roof, they need big U.S. bidders, which means you need big U.S. fans. The benefit is there
for FIFA, but I hadn't thought about the downside. I hadn't thought about what that would be
to the American fan base. Look, you and I are a rarity, Dave. We're truly a bit of a rarity.
We are conservative, not just politically, culturally.
Within the course of the next hour, David is going to light up a Marlboro light.
We are conservative culturally here at Will King Country.
And we love soccer.
We love soccer.
Now, I am biased.
My boys both played soccer.
He didn't even wait.
David lighten them up.
If you got, smoke them if you got them, boys.
But that makes us, that does make us unicorns, David.
And so part of the audience that we're fighting against is in the comments section right now at YouTube is on Facebook.
And it's saying, oh, soccer is a sissy sport or soccer is a bunch of floppers.
True, it is a bunch of floppers.
False.
It's not a sissy sport.
But if they had encountered a loss tonight, 33 million people watch the last game.
So they're watching.
And they will watch tonight.
I suspect the ratings tonight will approach, I wouldn't be surprised, they approach 50 million.
50 million, which dwarfs the NBA finals.
Not yet reaching Super Bowl level, but huge.
If 50 million people tuned into a game that they thought was one rigged against the United States, full of floppers and a sport they culturally can't connect with, that'd be awful for a generation for FIFA.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, you'd be.
It's a ridiculous rule.
I mean, especially for an American, it makes no sense that you would have, like, a roughing the past.
Like, if you get too roughing the passer calls, you're automatically suspended for next Sunday.
That's ridiculous.
Like, of course you'd want the NFL to look at every suspension individually.
The game is over.
We're moving on to a new get.
This doesn't make any sense.
Like, the whole rule doesn't make any sense.
But, yeah, look, I, I, I, the flip side of this is, I'm.
I think that anybody who decides that tonight's game is for them going to be about, like, being angry at Trump, that's their personal decision.
If they want to put an asterisk on this, that's their personal decision.
And no American has any responsibility to agree with that nonsense.
All right, let's welcome in Gino Bisconti as well, a comedian.
He's going to join David Marcus, Tinfoil Pat, me here today on Will Kane Country.
Gino, it's good to have you on the show as well.
You're up in New York with the boys.
Welcome, man. Nice to meet you, Gino.
It's great to be here. I love your studio.
I would have stayed in my apartment if I know we could smoke them up and have a drink, right?
But, hey, thanks for having me, Will.
I don't know if you can smoke there and that.
I'm glad to have you, man.
Oh, they told me I put you to just anyway.
I'm a big a special, yeah.
I'm smoking a hand.
You've already inquired.
Might I suggest smokeless nicotine?
We've got an hour to kill here, Gino.
See what can get you through the hour.
So, listen, you jump in wherever you want, but I want to pick up.
up on what David said here. So, David, this is what I find fascinating. Ultimately, and I do want to
talk about the nature of Balligan's Red Card, and I do want to talk about the nature of the appeals
process and whether or not Trump was involved. But let's just seven minutes into Wilcane country
cut the bullshit. Let's get right down to the bottom. This is a combination of two factors,
the reaction that we are getting from the world and from isolated corners of the U.S.
Number one, justice is not justice.
Justice is getting lost in an arcane library of rules that are best illustrated in whatever governing body runs the EU.
I've seen soccer commentators say it's irrelevant whether or not the red card was earned right or wrong.
What's relevant is that you did this and you broke quote unquote precedent or that you didn't follow your own guidelines.
They get so caught up in the rules, in the books that they no longer can even, it's not that they don't care.
I don't think they can even identify true justice.
Like it's not part of the calculation.
The calculation is, did you follow the code?
And so that's one thing.
And I think that's very European.
And the other is more simple.
This is Trump derangement syndrome.
And that is not American left.
That is global.
The entire globe is suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.
and they see this story as simply Donald Trump press the easy button.
Ref gave red card, he pulled Trump card.
And they're freaking out on that simple basis.
That explains, I think, what we're seeing from the world.
Yeah, look, I agree.
And it absolutely is Trump derangement syndrome.
I will say, you know, Trump at least indirectly is going, and I guess already has,
but is going to take credit for this because, I mean, you know, Trump flies to California,
he's going to take credit for the sun setting in the West, right?
Like, this is what Donald Trump does.
But, yeah, it goes back to that personal decision.
And it's about so much more than the World Cup.
Like, you get to decide if your feelings about Donald Trump
are going to dominate how you feel about everything in your life.
That's your decision.
That's not being imposed on you by anybody else.
And if that's the choice that you make,
and that's what tonight's game means to you,
then that's what it means to you.
But you're right.
It doesn't, like, this isn't even unprecedented.
I mean, Cristiano Ronaldo had two of his suspended games lifted
so that he could play in this World Cup.
I mean, even by their own ludicrous standards,
what they're saying doesn't make any sense.
And I mean, right now you've got poor Pierce Morgan,
like moving the goalposts like nobody I've ever seen.
Because in fact, this is like the fifth time this has happened.
Well, I would argue.
I would agree with you.
It's about two things.
It's about sports, and it's about the president, and I love both.
But the one thing I hate is instant replay, and that is not just Europe.
That has ruined football.
That has ruined so many sports where, admit it, now that we're older,
when we were kids, I would find myself rooting for the game,
not sitting there during a commercial break, rooting for the call.
And if you don't get that this was literally a call made by the replay in super slow-mo,
and the guy that was in the ref or whatever want to call him,
again, another guy that's probably a little anti-American,
and I agree with what you said about FIFA on behalf of all of America.
Here's something you never gave us the chance to say FIFA.
You're freaking welcome because this is really blowing up.
But again, the replay ruins the game.
And that was not a legit red card in real time.
There was no foul called.
And the other thing is, so I'm reading the New York Times to get my sports today.
Yeah.
And of course, they take a dig at Trump for intervening.
And people are like, he may have, he may not have.
I hope he did.
I hope he did because this is a president that's involved with his country, the look of it, and the
grandioseness of what's going on. And the last president to intercede for a male athlete was Joe Biden
when he traded a WNBA player for a terrorist who left a trail of red blood, not red cards.
Yes, I forgot about that. I did see an interview recently with Victor Boot.
Everyone knows the details of the story of Britney Griner's return from Russia in exchange for
weapons dealer Victor Boot. Did you see this? So Boot is also the subject of a really good movie,
by the way, starring Nicholas Cage. And what is, what was the name of that movie? Lord of War,
Lord of War about an arms dealer in New York, which is based upon Victor Boot. He ultimately got
arrested here in America for being an international arms dealer. And he was traded because
Russia had Britney Griner in jail for a vape pin. So we got to, we'll trade you, your arms
dealer for our vapor.
Deal Russia.
For our woman who knelt during the COVID lockdown for the national anthem and then
begged us to take her back.
And I said her because it's not my show, Will.
I'm going to be polite.
I wonder if she got the bait time back.
I hope.
And this is the breaking news on that, the recent news on that, Victor Boot is super offended.
As one would be.
He goes, this is what I was traded for.
he's like, I was traded for this.
I thought more of myself.
I'm an international criminal.
They've made movies about me.
I sell weapons to small dictators to take over countries.
And I was traded for a WNBA player.
It's like when Bugs Bunny and they said bunnies weren't dangerous.
Sorry if you kids are too young for this.
And he cut Florida off and then he was wanted.
That's Victor Boot.
He's Bugs Bunny.
Well, maybe not.
Makes me like him. It makes me like him.
When he's sitting in his cell, they're like, Victor, you get to go home.
He's like, yes. What did they trade? Mugabe? Who'd they trade? Who'd they get?
Brittany Griner? They're like, Brittany Griner. Yeah. He's like, who?
Didn't even get draft fix. No, no. She plays in the WNBA. Oh.
And by the way, she's a terrible shooter. We've seen her.
Bad post care.
We finally did it. This is how soccer breaks through in the U.S. controversy. And Trump, we're going to keep breaking it down with
David Marcus and Gino Bisconti when we come back on Will Cain Country.
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Patrick, I want to indulge this for just one moment. Gene, on the point.
When instant replay came around, and even in the year in the NFL, when we adopted it and said, we're going to correct past interference, I actually liked it.
I was on ESPN. I was hosting the Will Cane Show, and I liked it, because we want to get things right.
And this has a bit of tension in it, right, this story today with Balligan.
Because the truth is what's happened here is we've got it right. Justice has been served.
Justice is not perpetuated by continuing an injustice.
no world was this a red card. Dave, you know, I saw somebody break this down wonderfully. The idea
that this is a red card, like, Balagan is the, he is the receiver of the ball on that play, right?
He is, the ball, U.S. is in possession. They're passing the ball to Balagan. He's receiving it.
His back is to the defender. The defender's coming through him. And he takes a step.
They both take a step, and he lands on the defender's foot, ankle. And there's nothing he could have done.
He didn't see the defender coming in that direction.
It's hard to translate that into another sport.
I saw the guy try to say, look, it's in basketball.
I go up to block a shot, right?
And you come down hard and roll your ankle because of my actions blocking your shot, which were legit.
Now I'm suspended because you rolled your ankle on a legit play.
It's not a red card in any world.
And, by the way, the way in which the red card was achieved was unjust.
You can see it if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook as we speak.
But the way in which the red card was achieved was also unjust.
It went to VAR.
The VAR ref on the field didn't call it.
The VAR ref called it.
And he didn't do it in the way he's supposed to do, which he showed the ref on the field,
slow-mo.
It says in the rules, thou shalt not use slow-mo or still frame.
And he comes back on and he gives the red card.
The point is, justice is now served.
So this is a little bit of attention on the instant replay thing.
We've arrived at the just position.
Belgium today should not be mad.
Belgium is beside themselves and they're appealing as they speak.
This is a full U.S. squad that justly deserves to be on the field.
Go win, Belgium.
You're better, by the way, in almost every measurable way.
You've got my favorite player of all time on the field.
Kevin DeBreina.
But this is justice, and it did get there through a process.
I'm just curious because I think everybody feels the way Gino feels right now about replay.
Yeah.
saw somebody say, I don't understand off sides.
It's hard for Americans to understand off sides.
It truly is.
And said, here's how you understand off sides.
I don't know.
If something exciting happens, it's off sides.
I have a problem with replay inside the game.
In fact, I don't think this is the most egregious call we've seen in this World Cup.
To me, it was the Croatia goal that was disallowed because of,
off sides, right? And if you look at the video, the ball goes right by the Croatian player's
head. It's spinning. The spin never changes, right? And they tell us, oh, we've got a picture
in the ball. They say they have a chip in the ball that indicates the ball was hit. But you're
right, the spin doesn't change. But the problem with replay, if I could just posit one thing
and give it back to you, will is and always will be that it encourages the officials to not do
their job to be out of position.
And you look at football.
If that ball hits the ground, call it a fumble.
Why? Because they have to review it. We don't have to do our job.
I can go all the way back to that charger game when Jay Cutler fumbled the ball backwards.
And the guy said, no, no, no. It was an incomplete pass.
And it changed the game. You don't remember because you're saying people who haven't rooted
for the Chargers since Don Correale. But the point of making is the only replay that works
and they need to do more like that is the ABS challenge in baseball, which the umpires were
all four.
literally said, yeah, you want to dance, we'll do it. And it's fantastic because when they're wrong,
no one loses a call. And they need to incorporate that into football somehow. I'm actually a little
worried about the ABS. The ABS worries me because I think it's going to give batters way too much
of an advantage. I think that it's going to get to the point where the strike zone is going to be
so clear what is and isn't a strike that it's going to be very difficult for pitchers to try to
fool batter. I disagree, but I completely understand.
you're saying, but I disagree. I think that's true. I think that's true, but I'm not sure it's bad.
Here's where I am. Generally, audiences love offense, okay? And I'm watching this with soccer.
There's not enough goals. And I know if this clip ever gets out and the boys at ITV ever hear
it's going to be, oh, Americans don't understand the sport. I get it, okay? I get the sport.
I know it better than you. Your accent grants you no privileges.
But here's what I know about human beings.
They like scoring.
And it's a little light in soccer.
Here's what I would do.
I think I would change the off sides rule, right?
Like the off sides rule right now is like if there's any part of you that's beyond the furthest defender, you're off sides.
I would change it to the rule that's been proposed.
If any part of you is in line with the defender, you're still on sides.
You see what I'm saying?
So your whole body can be passed in.
But if I have that one foot back, then I'm on sides.
Is that R.C.
Vegas idea, Will?
And that's it.
There has to be space.
It was Arson Vega.
And the offensive player.
I like that as well.
I think that makes sense to me.
Baseball, Dave, I think if more hits, more runs, good.
Good for the game.
Honestly.
Well, I think we should be juicing the ball and going back to steroids with baseball.
I mean, like, it was a lot more fun in the late 90s.
Patrick, where are you on replay?
Seriously, I'm curious where the curmudgeon is on replay at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah, where are you?
I think it makes sense when you have replay for like, oh, it's a home run ball or it's a, you know, was the puck over the goal line in hockey or something like that.
I don't really like it on like bang bang plays where it's where there should be some element of human, human error.
I mean, you know, we did have that perfect game overturned, Gala Raga's perfect game because of a bad call.
But I think I'd rather have those moments where there's a human element to it.
but, you know, I don't, I'm not completely opposed to it.
I do think that, like, the NFL is relying way too much on it.
I'm, I'm going to be honest.
I'm a hypocrite.
I'm a contradiction.
I am into human element and mistakes.
I like it.
I don't think games should be perfected.
Well, you're a cowboy.
However, get them.
Human element and mistake.
However, I like the ability for mistakes to be corrected.
In this case, I do get what the Lymies are saying.
They're saying, okay, a bad call was made, but the sport is that you have to live with the bad call,
and the bad call can't be corrected just because the president is friends with the president of FIFA.
But, and this is, again, they're going to accuse me of not understanding the game.
I understand soccer better than you do, the person making that claim.
A red card is too punitive.
That's another fact.
It's too punitive.
Like, the U.S. had to play 30 minutes a man down.
I heard some local radio guys
David saying this is
their family doesn't watch it but they're hockey fans
are like how long is the power play
they're like it's not a power
it's the rest of the game
when do we get our guy back what
it's not two minutes in the box
it's not a four minute
major it's over yeah
he's gone we don't get a new guy in
but the next game thing
the next game thing is too much
it's too much
it's not being able
to replace and thing is already too much.
And it kind of says something about soccer that like you can play a man down and like it's fine.
Like if you had to play baseball with eight players, you'd lose.
Look at the Mets.
If you had to play an NFL game with 10 players, you'd lose.
Like you wouldn't be able to win.
Somehow in soccer, like that's a guy's extra.
Like how does that happen?
Do you know what it is?
It says how hard it is to score in soccer.
This is fun for me where a lot of non-socker fans are watching.
And one of the questions I've been asked is clearly, obviously, these guys are world-class.
I don't think that has to be explained.
It's potentially you could argue the best athletes in the world.
And you just have to do that through the process of elimination.
If the entire globe is playing it, the level of competition to get to this level means there's a bigger filtering mechanism.
And so they're asking, like, then how do they miss the cage by 20?
yards. Like, how does that happen? And I struggle to answer. Because like, a hockey, a hockey player
doesn't miss by that far, you know? And I'm like, I guess that shows how hard it is to kick a
ball while running, therefore pretty much inherently off balance into that cage. And Dan was with me.
We went to France, Paraguay on Saturday in Philadelphia. And one of the things Dan said to me
is, man, versus TV, the cage looks so much smaller on the field. Like when you're actually there,
seeing the field. Like on TV it looks gigantic. In person, it looks small. Yeah, it's insane.
I'm surprised they even get it in most of the time. But seeing it on TV does not look that way.
I think even running fast, having the ball going that speed, someone going after it,
getting the right kick at the right time with the right angle is just seems impossible. So,
I get it. By the way, Will, you owe me a thank you because I was totally, I guess it was Friday,
were doing your show from Independence Mallick outside.
It was all I could do not to get like a bunch of my boys from Philly to go start chanting Dallas sucks.
Did you ever hear that one of media relations if it got back to me?
Did you ever hear the joke and I just heard it?
It might be old.
It's like the star on their helmet.
That's their rating.
It's a one star rating.
I just heard that one.
I love it.
I've never heard that joke.
Honestly, I've heard them all, steers and queers.
I've heard it all, man.
They were talking about football well.
Star rating.
All right, I come away from my weekend in Philadelphia with a theory.
All right.
I get to Philadelphia.
I walk to Independence Mall.
My very first introduction is an awesome dude served United States Marine.
He's going to give me a tour.
First thing he says to me, F Dallas.
And I said, man, thank you.
Thank you.
And here is my theory.
I like Philadelphia.
Actually, it's got a lot of problems.
And that's a shame. It's a little bit like California because so much American history embedded in the way of life in Philadelphia. You can't go half a block without seeing another historical marker of how this country was founded. And not just that, I actually like the attitude. It's not my attitude. I don't want to move there. It's not my people. But I like that it has a distinct attitude and flavor to Philadelphia. And this is what I thought. I was talking to my security guy who was like a 25-year-year Philly Cod.
And I said, look, I went to law school at the University of Texas.
We hate Texas A&M.
But I also kind of love Texas A&M because the two give each other a reason, a purpose, an identity.
And you need that.
And I love Philadelphia hating Dallas and Dallas hating Philadelphia.
What a worse world it would be if everybody were the Jaguars.
You know what I'm saying?
It seems like a direct shot.
Or do you know the Chargers?
If everybody was the Chargers and nobody can.
No, but as a man, as a man born and raised in Southern New Jersey with my brother, Max Lodes, right outside of Philly.
I'm a, I became a Charger fan because of Eric Correale, but I'm a huge Phillies fan.
And I will say, in defense of Philly's fans, I think every fan base has 1% of people who are terrible fans.
But that 1% in Philly, they're so competitive.
They want to be known as the worst 1% of the fan base in the world.
I'll tell you a story.
I was in Philly the year they started Interleague play.
They're playing the Blue Jays.
Joe Carter comes up.
Anyone in Philly remembers that guy.
He comes up.
They boo him mercilessly.
They're screaming.
Second at bat doubles off the wall as they're booing.
They stop the game.
They say, that is Joe Carter's 2000 career hit.
Hand to God, standing O.
Comes up the next time.
You're not getting 2001, you piece of shit.
Somebody's yelling behind me.
That is Philly.
And I love those fans.
They gave him an ovation for his two years.
2000 hit? Stop the game. Ovation.
I'm surprised. Yeah.
It's weak.
You're surprised.
Better than Santa Claus. Because you're like the people in Europe.
Let me tell you about Santa Claus.
Okay. He was drunk and he was skinny.
I would have booed the 2000s hit.
Now, you got to respect the game.
You cheered Michael Irvin's almost paralysis.
That one percent is terrible.
It's objectively terrible.
It's like 90%.
To quote Homer Simpson, everything's terrible when you remember it.
It's not one.
percent. But in the end, I feel connected to Philly in that way, and I appreciate our relationship.
I love that you say F Dallas. That's, that's I love. Speaking of that, Philly is great in the passion.
They got nothing on the Mexicans. Ed, were you at the Azteca last night?
Ed, were you, did you? Did you throw a bottle of pee pee onto the Euros?
I heard about that. Is that real?
They spray.
I heard there was some beer, beer and pee thrown down on.
In general, thank you, Patriots.
A little more volume there, Ed.
I saw that.
A little more volume, Ed.
Is that better?
There you go.
He was talking about, my wife brought this up.
Did you see the Mexicans went outside?
The English booked 15 hotels to try to hide where they were.
But, of course, everybody's connected in Mexico.
Somebody inside the cartels like, they're actually.
at the Weston.
And so they found out where the English were.
They stood outside all night long, played mariachi music and shot off fireworks all my long to try to keep them up.
And my wife's like, is that bad sportsmanship?
I'm like, no, I don't think so.
I actually like that.
But I'm really happy there was not violence, or at least no reported violence yet.
No major violence.
No major violence.
I'm sure somebody got punched.
Would you go out if you're an English fan in Mexico City?
No major violence.
I wouldn't go out in an English jersey.
Let's do that.
Now, David's broke a Cardinal Sin today.
You don't have this picture, do you guys?
Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona posted a picture of himself last night during Mexico, England,
and he was wearing a Mexico jersey.
Now, I think this is a good point at which we need to review Will's Rules for fandom.
My son, my youngest son today, is at Portugal, Spain, which is here in Dallas.
And he went out yesterday.
He said, I've got to get a Portugal jersey.
I'm like, okay.
I'm like, please don't act a fool.
He's like, don't be yelling about messy.
Just don't act a fool.
Be respectful of the people around you.
But he's going to wear a Portugal jersey.
So it reminds me, okay, the rules are as follows, okay?
If the United States is playing anybody,
you do not root for anybody but the United States if you're an American.
That's it, period.
I don't want to hear about your Italian heritage.
I don't want to hear about your Mexican heritage.
I don't want to hear about anything.
Are you an American?
Then you root for you.
for America. Period. End of story. I would root for Argentina over America in soccer. No question.
Deported. Deported. Tom Homan. I'm calling Tom Homan right now. I got 35 years invested in this
team, man. Like, I'm not putting that out the window because the United States is suddenly like
maybe good enough to get to a quarterfinal. You're American, Marcus. You're not Argentinian.
I don't, but it does nothing to do with like who I root for in.
soccer because I also like just international sports in general like I don't care that much if
America beats the rest of the world I want to beat Dallas so it's just not that big a deal to
me if we win I liked the hockey thing just because like we beat Canada at their own thing and I think
it would be funny if the United States won the World Cup but I'm not invested in the American
I was about to give you a pass wearing your Argentina jersey today because they're not playing the
US I'd forgive you if you did I wouldn't do it I won't wear a Norway dress
Jersey when they're playing England, even though I like Holland. By the way, next call, President
Trump, now that we've gotten the red card overturned, I know you've got your sights set on Greenland.
Might I suggest that we do the opposite of deportation, we kidnapped Erling Holland and
make him an American and he plays for us? For citizenship. Because if there's one guy, like,
this is how Americans want to watch soccer. They want to see a six, five behemoth,
bully people and score.
And where a cowboy is.
He's our cowboy Viking now.
And he's got a nice.
And smile while he does it.
That's right.
Well, can I make one point about Holland that I actually think is really important?
I don't know if you've seen the insane extent to which the left has been arguing that
Balagan would not be eligible to play for the U.S. team, if not for birthright citizenship.
It's nonsense.
It's abject nonsense.
And the way that we know that it's abject nonsense is that Holland,
Because his father played for Leeds and he was born in England, Holland was eligible to play for England.
He chose to, now imagine that England team.
But he was absolutely eligible under the FIFA rules, just as Balligan would have been eligible to play for the United States.
I mean, that's just a flat-out line.
Your point is these are FIFA rules.
They don't have anything to do with birthright citizenship.
That's exactly right.
But that's all you hear on the left is, oh, my goodness, we'd have no team without birthright citizenship.
It's a lie.
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Yeah, totally.
So we need to find out how we can make Holland and American.
But Balligan was...
Against his will.
Balligan was born in America, right?
I want him mad.
Brooklyn.
I want a mad Viking and a cowboy hat,
rampaging through the world in a red, white, and blue jersey.
That's what I want.
You seem like Bristcoat.
That was Dempsey.
Dempsey was a little like that.
Dempsey had that kind of like swagger and attitude.
He's really the unmind.
And Alexi.
He was cool. Clint was cool in person, man.
When he went up to it, he just looks like a cool dude.
Alexi's getting some, I'm here to tell you in person, Alexi is getting some shit.
When Alexi was on our show on Friday, people in the soccer world fans walk up and say terrible things to Alexi.
It's not cool.
It's not cool.
It's because they're wrapped up, to your point, Dave.
Everything is TDS.
And so there are Americans like, I guess he's American.
He's a naturalized citizen.
Yeah.
I think we need to explore our avenues to, to, to, to, does FIFA have any say in this?
Because I want to review Medi Hassan citizenship.
Call Infantante.
Medi Hassan posted, I obviously want the U.S. men's national team to win against Belgium,
but this seems to correct to me.
This would be the right thing for Balligan to do, which is someone suggests what would be sportsmanship now is for Balligan to refuse to play tonight against Belgium.
There's a whole strain.
There's a whole strain of these Americans.
He wants the U.S. to win?
No.
Under no circumstances, does he want the U.S. to win?
I don't believe it either.
No.
And he's not even an Argentina fan.
Right.
Hey, I'm going to pull this up.
Speaking of what could influence this game tonight,
have you guys seen this?
I'm going to pull up my soccer app real quick,
because it has info.
Look at this.
I think I can scroll this.
Okay, check it out.
Dan, see if you can zoom in on this.
United States versus Belgium kickoff 7 p.m. Central time, 8 Eastern, okay? Seattle Stadium, here's the info in the game. You got to zoom in a little bit. Seattle Stadium capacity, 67,000 surface grass. You scroll down and see here. Let me scroll up so you can see this. It shows the referee. Do you see the referee?
Adam Muhammad Tuma MacMaddebe.
Look at the flag. Do you see the flag next to him?
What is it?
That's a Palestinian flag, isn't it?
Is it?
What is that flag?
Black?
It's hard to tell.
Then white, then green, with the red triangle with a star in the middle.
Jordanian.
Jordanian.
He's Jordanian?
Yeah.
Well, 40% of Jordanians are Palestinian, right?
Yeah.
Isn't that right?
So Belgium still has a chance.
I thought you were going to say it makes her an explosive match.
I mean, I'm going to change my bet at this point.
That's the ref for tonight's game.
Okay, Jordanian.
I need to make a call on that, too.
Can we get a ref from Philly for this game?
Is there a FIFA Philly, ref?
One that likes the Eagles.
Back to my rules.
Back to my rules, David.
Okay.
If you are an elected official of the United States of America
under no circumstances,
even if another team is not playing America,
are you allowed to put on their jersey?
You do not put on an Argentinian jersey.
You do not put on a Mexican jersey.
You do not put on an Israeli jersey.
You wear only a...
American jerseys because you are an elected representative of the United States of America.
I understand from Arizona, which means you probably got a large Latino voting base.
But I don't care you represent, hopefully, American Latinos voting in American elections.
This is the rules of fandom according to Will.
The problem with that logic, Will, is so many people in our government have dual citizenship.
So maybe they would root for two teams.
And they should not be.
in office if they have dual citizenship.
This Kelly guy's just a pinhead,
so I didn't like him before he put on the Mexico jersey or whatever it was.
Can an American be a Toronto Blue Jays fan?
What's that?
Can an American be a Toronto Blue Jays fan?
That's interesting.
American organization.
Yeah, they're all, Dave Steve was, Dave Steve was the greatest
breaking ball pitcher in the 80s.
He was an American.
So sure, why not if you're a fan of Dave Steve?
No.
No, not according to the rules of will.
professional fandom rules as well.
But that's Major League Baseball.
It's U.S.
Like the heart.
No.
By definition,
the question fails itself.
Can an American route for the Toronto Blue Jays?
But they're all Americans.
Well,
hypothetically,
if you were to get a call from President Trump,
would you consider adjusting the rules
of will for sports fandom?
Me?
I mean,
I'm willing to take the call
from the president.
Look at a blush.
I think it works the other way.
I call the president and tell him these are the rules of sports fandom,
and I think he listens.
And here's how it works.
You are born to your fandom.
You do not choose your fandom.
I'm sorry about your Air Cori-L experience, Gino.
You're born to it.
So I'm born in Sherman, Texas one hour away from Dallas.
That means I am a Cowboys Mavericks and Rangers fan, and that's it.
When it comes to college, where I go to school dictates where I get to root.
Okay?
That's that. There is one caveat that I can think of, and that is if your father brainwashed you because he was essentially an expat living in a foreign land. This is what I did in my sons who were born in New York. They're not giants, Jets, Nix fans. They grew up Dallas fans because we were always coming home. It just took 15 years. But that's how it works. So by definition, an American cannot root for the Blue Jays unless one of those two things applies. He was born and he was born.
in Toronto, he became an American
citizen, and he continues to root
for the Blue Jays, or his dad brainwashed him.
Otherwise, there's no such thing as
sports free agency and fandom,
except I did it one time in my life.
One time in my life, hold on.
I've been a sports free agent once,
once. And that's when I loved soccer,
when I started loving soccer. I had
nobody to root for. I mean, I'm going to do
Premier League. Not MLS.
It doesn't matter. It's American.
MLS, I'm an FC Dallas fan.
I'm an FC Dallas fan. But
But if in the Premier League, I chose Manchester City.
In, in La Liga and Bundesliga and Syria, I'm not as devoted, but I can be whoever I want.
I get to pick in those leagues.
That's the rules.
What's different.
Let me give you this scenario, because this happened to me.
I was living in Brooklyn in 2013 when the Nets moved to Brooklyn.
And I had a son who was about three or four years old at the time, right?
I was never, I root for every Philly team now except for the Sixers, but I was, I was a basketball player, but I never cared that much about the Sixers.
I was more of a college basketball fan.
So when the Nets came, I thought this is great.
It's very cool that Brooklyn has its own team.
I'm going to root for the Nets.
Now that hasn't worked out very well for me in terms of wins and losses, and I didn't get to share in the next celebration.
But is that a reasonable situation if the team arrives at the place where you are living?
That's tough. That's the toughest thing in sports.
No.
It really is.
Here's why it's tough.
Okay.
I've got an intern shadowing here today from Houston, okay?
Henry Rose right over here.
Shout out.
And let's say you're in Houston, but he's too young.
And you are an Oilers fan, and then they left.
I sympathize with those Houston people.
What do I do?
Do I follow the Oilers to the Tennessee Titans?
And then I have this gap period.
Do I become a Cowboys fan because they're the only team in Texas?
And then all of a sudden, now I've got the Texans,
who I don't have a big emotional connection to, what do I do?
So when your team does abandon you, I think that's a weird position to be in.
The Hartford Whalers.
Happ to me.
And what'd you do?
I became a Rangers fan.
I didn't go with the hurt.
See, I would disagree because as a man that grew up a San Diego Chargers fan,
and by the way, that's an addendum to your rule, too,
because fandom is about loyalty.
And of course, I love the Phillies and the Sixers and the Flyers growing up.
But when I was a kid growing up, the Eagles were always blacked out.
And the Chargers were not only usually on at 4 o'clock,
but even when they weren't, they'd show highlights.
And even when they weren't showing highlights, they were on Monday night football.
So you got to watch every game because the NFL remains the best product in the world.
So I think that's an addition to an addendum to your fandom.
Yeah.
How about a player?
I don't know, Tommy fan.
Denied.
Denied.
That's not going to be entered into the rules.
But I will, but there's going to be a corollary rule, and you're not going to like it.
You can be a Cowboys fan from anywhere in America because it's America's team.
So when I meet Cowboys fans from anywhere and they're like, yeah, but it's America's team.
I'm like, rule adjudicated.
I suppose that applies to the Braves, too?
The Braves.
Can we call this to Carol Markowitz exception, Will?
Can we just call this to Carol Barco.
Because for some reason, that woman was, you know, came from Robbins.
Especially when you meet older people.
When you meet older people that were from the Roger Staubach days,
I forgive you because the Cowboys were Roger Staubach, Captain America, America's team,
those kind of people.
Those are good people.
Yeah, well, buy a BCR if you want to see the Cowboys.
I liked them in the 90s.
I love them.
I'm from Connecticut, and I like the Cowboys in the 90s because they were winning.
I was a frontrunner.
You're a front runner.
You break all the rules.
You're a Packers fan.
I like the Chicago Bulls because of Michael Jordan.
Yeah.
And by the way, when a team...
You're deported.
When a team moves, that was my other point.
Well, like, the Chargers moved from San Diego to L.A.,
and it wasn't like Latania and Tomlinson and Philip Rivers said, hey, and Kenan
Allen, please get him back.
It's not like they said, hey, we should play in L.A. next year.
It's bidness.
The team is the team.
That's the loyalty.
That's where it lies with.
The players and the team you love.
So, yeah, you follow them to Tennessee.
You do, Will.
It's also a weird example, though, right?
Because if you live in Connecticut, you've got nine.
New York teams that you could choose from.
You've got all of New England that you could plausibly choose from.
So, I mean, if you're from New Haven, there's like 17 teams that you could conceivable
say, like, I'm a Patriots fan or a Celtics fan or a Knicks fan.
I went to the Midwest for some reason.
That's not fair.
You were given everything in life.
You were given everything in life.
You got the closest to sports free agency that America offers, and you chose off menu.
You went off menu.
And that's just gross.
You were given six options at your meal, and you were like,
does the chef have a special?
No, you don't get to pick the Packers.
No, thank you.
The rest of us didn't have a choice.
Okay, you had the Patriots, the Jets, the Giants.
Pick, pick.
You're at Connecticut.
Whatever you lived in South Texas,
and all you saw was...
Every Mexican is a cowboy fan.
Have you not noticed?
TBS.
Atlanta Braves.
Because you would watch it on the super station.
That's all we had.
We didn't have cable.
Told you.
The Superstation.
The Braves.
So no matter what, you watch the Atlanta Braves.
Let me ask you guys a TV question.
I was on TV this weekend, and I was doing a remote hit with the Dallas-based reporter, Brooke Taylor, and she was in Kentucky.
And in the course of her hit, so Ed is our guy here in Dallas, right?
Ed's Mexican, but you'd never know it.
You'd never know it.
In fact, you have to tell people because they would have no idea.
And he's the whitest Mexican, you know, this side of you.
border. And she said, oh, Ed's my can't. I asked her, hey, what food truck are you going to go to?
She was at this Army base, they all these food trucks. And I heard her say they had funnel cakes.
And I'm a gigantic funnel cake fan. Funnel cakes are amazing. So I was like, what food truck are you going to go to?
And she's like, oh, I don't know. We've got Ed here with us from Dallas. And I almost said on TV,
well, I guess you're going to the taco truck. But I didn't say it. And I thought the national audience just isn't
ready for the type of humor that Ed and I get to do here behind the scenes.
That would have been bad, right?
If I had done that?
What did I eat? Huh?
What did I eat?
You went to the taco truck.
I went to the taco stamp, bro.
Nice.
There's a playwright I worked with years ago.
His name was Jesse Wan, but he was a white guy named Jesse Wan.
And everyone in the theater community just referred to him as Jesse Wan, not Asian.
There's a couple of those last names that are Asian that surprise you for.
from time to time.
I met somebody the other day like that.
And I'm really curious about where that happened,
like hereditarily or lineage-wise.
Like, where did that Asian last name?
Maybe it never was Asian.
It's just some name I'm unfamiliar with.
It's like super Irish.
There was some interview with a Japan the other day.
And like it kind of went viral
because like the guy was like going nuts.
And we're like, oh my God,
this Japanese fan is crazy.
And I was watching it for a while.
And then I realized he was drunk.
And it's like in our culture, we so rarely show like Japanese or Asian people drunk that like it did.
Like if this had been like a guy from Boston, they just would be like, oh, it's a drunk guy.
But I was sitting there going like, what is wrong?
I was like, oh, he's drunk.
And I just, it wasn't.
Is that the guy that's like, I don't speak English, but I am exciting?
That guy, right.
And his friend was wasted too.
And it's like, if that was a Scottish guy, you'd just be like, oh, it's a junk Scottish guy.
Maybe.
But for a quick second, it made no sense to me.
Maybe.
Maybe you don't know they're Japanese when they're drunk because their eyes open up.
Maybe you don't know.
Maybe.
Could be.
All right.
So back to Flo Balligan's red card being, his punishment being suspended.
Here's a tweet by Andy Swan.
You can say whatever you want, but deep down you know that Kamala would never have gotten that red card revoked.
David, to your point, pass the joke.
Trump, this is the story.
story that everybody wants it to be because they want it to be a TDS story or they want it,
and it is a TDS story, or they want to be Trump's superhero story. But as the news continues
gets reported, what happened appears to be the United States soccer began the appeals process
shortly after the game. And I understand there is no formal appeals process. But you like your
rules, they found the rules. Article 27. You know, they went and they found what they need.
Did Trump speak to Infantante? Yes.
story is he wanted to get clarification. Why did this happen? I don't understand. Is a call from
the president even asking questions influential? Probably. Did he in some way put a finger on the
scale? Maybe. But this isn't as simple as what everybody wants it to be. Trump pulled out the
Trump card. No, Kier Starrmer called FIFA yesterday because they wanted to move the England-Mexico match
up to avoid the bad weather. And Kier-Starmer called FIFA and said, this would be an unfair
for Mexico. So it's the same thing. Like, it's like we said, well, I mean, this is just,
this is the story everyone wants and it's going to pump the game up and like all that stuff.
But at the end of the day, FIFA, as usual, did what was in the best interest of FIFA.
Yeah, and that's not a bad thing. That's not a bad thing because the fact that we're talking
about, you know, the play was questionable. There are certain plays where you're like, it's not even
going to come up. But the fact that it was hanging in the air, everything you said, it was the other
replay official. The guy wasn't even
looking at the leg. This guy must have an
eye on the side of his head because he was looking at the
ball and tripped over it. Need I bring back
the WNBA, the play
on court, God,
Caitlin Clark, where the woman literally
looked at her, put her foot underneath her when she
landed. That is a play that's
despicable, not what we're talking about
here. Let's take a quick break to continue
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And everybody's using the word unprecedented.
That's the one they want to use over.
And David mentioned earlier.
It's not unprecedented.
It's happened in this tournament.
Here's the list of suspensions that have been suspended.
And it's this tournament, Christiana Ronaldo.
He had a three-game ban going into the World Cup from a qualifying game.
And they set it aside.
Why?
For the same reason you're pointing out, David, you want Ronaldo in your tournament.
You need Ronaldo in your tournament.
And by the way, the tournament is better for it.
The tournament is better for Balligan to be on the U.S.
because you want a full U.S. squad.
That's what you want.
Now, if you're a Belgium fan, because I've been on the other side of this, you know,
if, since Gino is a Chargers fan, you know, if Justin Herbert is hurt and I get to play the Chargers that week,
I'm not crying for Justin Herbert.
I'm a little happy that I don't have to play their quarterback.
Yeah.
So I get it if you're Belgium, that you're like, okay, I'd rather.
There are people saying the American mindset is I want to, I want to beat the best.
I get that.
we're all sports fans really quickly.
If your team was playing another team and they're missing their best player,
you're good.
You're happy with that, right?
It's not, oh, we beat them diminished.
No.
No, because that's part of the sport.
Anyone says so funny.
Especially at the sport like the NBA or the NFL.
I mean, nobody's getting to the playoffs healthy.
Well, it's part of, especially in football.
That's part of the game.
We played without Alt and Slater all year.
Herbert was running for his life, and we got to the playoffs against the Patriots,
and we got to the playoffs against the Patriots.
And when we got our ass handed to us because of our stupid offensive coordinator,
I didn't say, oh, we didn't have our best players.
It's part of the game.
But when you're losing a player like this because of the most questionable, of questionable calls,
I'm sorry, that's different.
And I'm, and I know Belgium is famous for waffling, but I'm sorry, you want to say,
yeah, put them out there.
We'll beat you with them out there.
And instead they're like, oh, even Vegas switched the line
so they're underdogs now.
Stop it.
And Vegas knows what they're doing,
so it might be good to bet Belgium.
But I'm saying.
It goes the other way.
It goes the other way as well.
Wait, wait.
What did Vegas do?
Do you know what did Vegas do?
The line went from, uh, Belgium went from minus 1.15 to I think plus 125.
Just a little, little swing to make it interesting.
Really?
A little wet your beak on that, Will.
But again, it's a questionable call.
And you, you, you, this is where I'm sorry.
If I'm a charger fan.
And there's a ridiculous call on Gino Smith.
Trust me, I want him to play for the Raiders.
I'm kidding.
He thinks he's on the Jets.
What a nightmare.
But you don't want to be like, oh, no, he's not playing because of a questionable call.
That's what a weasel would do.
No offense, Will.
And there's a flip side here.
As an Eagles fan, the biggest hero in Philly maybe of all time is going to be Nick Foles.
Why?
Because he came in as a backup and beat Tom Brady.
Right.
Yeah.
That's legendary status.
It doesn't matter what else he did in his career.
He's an absolute hero forever for that.
Yeah.
And he's filling in for injured wence.
Yeah.
We have President Trump on this.
He's spoken on his conversation with FIFA.
Watch.
But all I did, all I did, I asked for a review because I didn't think it was a foul.
And, you know, again, I'm good at this stuff.
I didn't think it was a foul.
I thought it was two great athletes that crashed into each other and got entangled.
That was not a guy punching somebody in the face.
Love this guy.
I love this guy.
I think it's a terrible, if they wouldn't allow, you know, a top player,
maybe the best, maybe among the best players on the team to play,
I think it would have had a big stain.
And I related just that feel, I didn't tell them what to do.
I can't tell them what to do.
I like how he said in there, I'm good at this stuff.
Yeah.
When he says, am I wrong?
And let me say this.
First of all, every time Donald Trump opens his mouth, I want to punch Joe Biden in his.
Because the way Donald Trump talks, how do you not, how does anyone on the left not be like, yeah, we really, we really rely in the whole four years?
And when he says, I didn't do anything, he's half grinning because he knows he did something.
And he talks about it like I'm trying to think what I'm looking for.
Oh, yeah.
A dude talks about sports.
He didn't punch him in the face.
They got entangled.
Can you imagine Joe Biden saying entangled right now?
Please stop it.
It's a joke, but I don't think Kamala Harris would have done it.
I don't think Joe Biden would have done it.
And I don't think Donald Trump did do much.
I think he's actually telling the truth there.
I know you say he's smiling.
I think he's telling the truth.
I think that's the extent of what he did.
I mean, I don't think he said to Infantante, you have to do this.
I think that's why he's smiling.
I think he's smiling because he didn't do anything,
but he's like this.
I didn't do anything.
And they hate him so much.
I have it on high authority that this was a perfect phone call.
Moutain Fantante.
It was a perfect.
The best phone call.
One of the best phone calls ever, Edward,
Trump has inevitably abused.
I may use that.
I may use that on TV today.
I like that.
You can have that.
Replace the loser.
Infante had an statement.
Who had a statement?
I sent it to you. Infantente. Oh, yeah. You sent it to me. Okay, let's see what Infantante had to say.
Trump said what we just played for you within the last two hours. He's been asked about this.
Gianno Infantino, the president of FIFA, said the following. I have seen the public comments regarding the decision, and I'd like to reiterate a fundamental principle of FIFA's governance.
This is long. FIFA's judicial bodies are independent. They operate autonomously. Apply the FIFA disciplinary code and decide cases based on
applicable regulations. Their independence is essential to the credibility and integrity of football,
and that must always be respected. Yes, I regularly discussed matters related to FIFA World Cup
with the President, and on this matter, I did receive a call from the President, just as I received
calls from heads of state, government officials, football stakeholders, and business executives
from around the world. During our conversation, I explained there was an ongoing legal process.
We knew that. We discussed it a moment ago. Involving the independent judicial bodies,
and that is how the FIFA system works, and that's the principle I will uphold.
I read the disciplinary committee's decisions.
Sometimes I agree with them.
Sometimes I disagree.
What I always do, however, is respect those decisions, whether we personally like it or not, is there relevant?
So that's the statement from Infantino.
You know, you brought up earlier about Hassan.
I'm sorry, Patrick, real quick.
David, you brought up Medi Hassan, does he want the U.S. to win?
A lot of the conversation over the America's 250th birthday was about socialism.
I mean, it's about the greatness of America.
Then the counter conversation is about socialism.
But I thought Mary Catherine Ham put this really well.
This like general, I don't know what it is.
It's, if I say anti-Americanism, that sounds too simplified.
But it's like, what is this?
Mary Catherine Ham did it well in a post on X.
She put liberal, happy birthday, USA.
Thanks. Lib, you're not perfect. USA. Yeah, okay. Lib. People say you're exceptional. USA. Oh, that's nice. Lib, you are exceptional. Thank you. What makes you exceptional is that we can still change everything that is so crappy about you and you are pretty terrible. USA, this seems like a time and place issue. It's my birthday. And on every single birthday, you have disappointed me. And just on and on, it's like, this is your message on a 250th birthday, how terrible we are, America. Let me remind you of all.
of your personal flaws.
If you're doing that on my birthday,
maybe you don't really like me.
Maybe you don't really like America.
Yeah.
I think M.K.
nailed it.
And I would add that there was two days,
there were two days of cleanup
after Kami Mamdani's anti-America July 3rd speech
that went over like a ton of bricks
with like, you know,
all those sad sacks like standing there
with their flags looking like they were scared
Mbondani was going to deport them.
And over the next two years,
days, not only was their cleanup, but all of a sudden you see all of these communists.
And by the way, Will, if I can just say, you had that DSA guy on last week.
And I really want to thank you because I had been in my columns trying to make a transition
from calling these people Democratic Socialists to just calling them Socialists or Communists
because I think that's what they are.
And I didn't feel like I had quite enough cover to do that until that interview.
And when you really walked that through and you got that guy.
to say, yeah, this is actually what we eventually want. I literally changed the headline from what I had
pitched, which was like Democratic Socialists would destroy, blah, blah, blah, to Democratic communists
would destroy. And that was the permission structure that I needed. So I really appreciated that, by the way.
Well, can I say, first of all, thank you for that, because, you know, I went into that interview,
and this is what I like to do sometimes, pull the, pull the curtain back on those things. And,
you know, when I'm going to have somebody on that I know I disagree with, I have a choice to make,
am I going to debate this person? Am I going to slap him around, which is not my choice to do,
usually. I don't want to slap it because it's unproductive. But a debate is productive. But that day,
you know what I said to myself? I don't want to debate him. I want him to explain to me who he is,
what he believes and what they believe. And I got some flack from people on the right. Like,
why do you let them walk all over you? Why do you let them do that on your airways? That person wants me
to slap them. That's all they want me to do. Talk them down, shut them up. But I was like, no,
it's more instructive for you to hear in his words what it is he believes.
And by the way, David, I'm glad you heard that because I think they're playing a big game of hide the ball.
He was too that day.
He was speaking in code.
He was not being honest about 100% of what he believes.
But I do think that's, we're at a point where everyone needs to hear what they're actually confronted with at this moment.
If I shout him down, I may get a short-term victory, but you don't know.
much more about the fact that they actually do want to do away with policing and borders.
And to tie, if I can try and tie a little something together.
One, yeah, Mom Donnie, what a disgrace.
And behind Washington's desk, if I wanted to watch Akami behind a legend's desk, I would watch Kimmel at night.
But the beauty of what's, thanks for getting that, but the beauty of this, and I couldn't agree,
I think you'll all agree, thank God, whether you believe it or not, I believe the 20, 20 election was stolen.
And thank God it was, because one, Trump 45 got to do his homework for Trump 47.
And can anyone, not even Reagan, can you, I'm getting goosebumps.
Can you name any other president that deserved to celebrate the 250th other than the man that loves being president?
And when you love your job, you're really good at it.
And when Trump at 11 o'clock said, we're not, we're not canceling it, we're doing it.
And the fireworks.
And they're parading, they're parading a hundred and seven-year-old man.
up there and he looks better than Biden. I'm sorry. I can't the universe provides and the fact that
Trump got to do it. That was just an F you, forgive my spelling to all the, all the people that are
like, ah, this guy's an idiot. No, we win and it was such a gift to watch that man be able to be
the man that pulled the trigger on 250. It's like that line in the Big Lobossey. Sometimes there's a man.
Sometimes there's a man.
Well, he's just the man for his time and place.
President Trump is the man for his time and place.
Yeah.
We've got some viewer comments really quickly.
Ryan Weiss over on YouTube says, if Trump did this, then good on him.
I'm glad he's doing something for the country, for his country.
Scott Spruill says, I'm enjoying soccer.
I think Trump is not the reason.
Trump is blamed for everything.
This was just a bad red card.
American football can't come soon enough.
College football, college hoops, college baseball.
college baseball. We just, we just, we just, uh, um, we just ended college baseball. And then
Lyons today says the guy on the top right, guy on the top right, that's David Marcus,
looks like, looks like a Russian Jesse Waters. He nailed it. Nailed it. That's not the first time
media, you ran a thing about this. And I'm worried that like, it doesn't bother me. I'm worried
that it might bother Jesse. And the funny thing is, I was a little, I'm a little older than him,
but we went to rival high schools in Philly. Like, we,
went to high schools that hate each other.
So I don't know, man, but I love Jesse.
You know, I love everything he does.
But I've gotten that before.
Patrick, I interrupted you.
You had some, I'm sure, broadcasting electrified genius you're about to share with this here on Will Kington.
I'm just, I don't know soccer very well, Will, but last I checked, FIFA isn't known to be the most upright organization, you know?
They're corrupt.
What do you mean?
What?
I mean, they literally just gave a World Cup to Qatar.
Have you guys seen the, by the way, here's first round by our resident Democratic Socialist who listens every day and we appreciate his presence.
Why is it so hard to admit that Trump played a part in balligan suspension being overturned?
I don't think anybody here denied he might have played a part.
The question is, did he play a 5% part or a 100% part?
Did his call influence Infantino in any way?
I don't know.
But I don't think this is in any way the story that everybody wants to make it out.
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All right, last question.
Let's go sports.
Here's the question I have.
Do you think this plays for Belgium or plays for America?
I'm actually torn.
Set aside all of it.
You know, I think Seattle's going to be rocking.
I think that crowd, those blue-haired lefties that love soccer,
they're going to be going bananas up there in good for them.
This is the one time, get Antifa in the stands.
Good, go for it.
Get the flares.
But if I'm Belgium, I got a little extra sauce for the game, I feel like.
I don't know how this plays actually on the field.
I would go to the great movie The Replacements and Shane Falco,
winners want the ball. And simply put, if Belgium's complaining about him being in when it was such a
questionable call, everyone agrees. And by the way, if you think Trump had something to do with the right
thing being done, that makes it even more delicious for us. But I think, Flo Bogodon, I always say his name
wrong, God forbid a lot of, it's a Scrabble name. I think he steps it up. I think he plays even
stronger because he knows he belongs. And I think Belgium, I'll say waffles just to be cute.
And I think they're sitting there playing scared when they should be like, bring them. Like we said earlier,
bring them. We want to beat your best guy, and they don't. And I think all the blue here is in Seattle are going to be very upset. Go USA.
You know, I think as far as what happens on the field goes, there's some interesting possibilities here because the U.S. had been training for a couple of two, two and a half days, assuming they didn't have balligan, right? So they must have been putting.
Wait, wait, is that, do you think that's true? I thought about that. I bet Pachitino knew this was ongoing.
You know, Andrew Giuliani, U.S. soccer, they think they.
filed this last week, I bet they were in communication with Pachitino.
Yeah, but I, but I have a hard time believing that they knew exactly which way it was going
to go. And I think the fact of the matter here is there's an interesting choice for Pocitino
to make tonight, which would be to not start Balligan and to do whatever, to start Pepe, do whatever,
because that's a different game plan with Pepe than it is with Baligan. Make Belgium react to that,
and then you can bring Baligan on. I think there's some gains.
I do think that's right.
I think there's some gamesmanship.
Like, if you did prepare a different way to play,
now you can theoretically do both.
And if one's not working,
you can switch it up on Belgium pretty easily.
That's that play.
And by the way, if I'm Belgium,
yeah, I'm a little pissed that you switch this at the last minute.
Like, I've been preparing for one type of game.
Now I get a different.
But, like, do we overstate the planning in soccer?
Is it really that different of a game plan if this one guy's in?
You know, I'd just ask you.
Yeah, honestly, yeah, it is.
In his case, I think is, is he our only true nine,
it's not just because they're only true nine, Will.
So you've got, you get goals,
but we don't have another guy who you can just kind of feed, right?
The other guys that's got to be worked and getting behind,
if that makes sense.
Coaching and tactics are much more, I mean,
I think that's why the U.S. is actually good right now.
I think Pocitino's played a genius role in this.
And, I mean, yes, I know 11 dudes out there.
It looks like it's random the way they're passing the ball around.
It's not.
Potachino, Will?
Oh, yeah.
Potachina?
He's Argentinian.
Yeah.
Yeah, I see it.
I see your jersey.
Is that?
Is that not a Paschino or American one?
You could do that.
Doesn't change the will rules that the U.S. has an Argentinian coach.
No, you're deported.
You have, you are deported.
Based upon you are going to root.
You'd wear that if they're playing the U.S.
And that right there, you're about to go be the Russian Jesse Waters.
Let's go see if you can write that column in Moscow.
Good one, Will.
You can try to deport me, Will.
All right, David Marks is a columnist at Fox News.
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The COVID Lies that Crushed the Nation.
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This has been a lot of fun.
Thank you, boys, for hanging out.
Appreciate the time.
Thank you so much, Will.
Thanks, guys.
All right.
Here we go.
Thanks, Ed.
Thanks, Team USA.
Thank you Donald Trump.
Thank you, FIFA.
Thank you, Infantino.
Let's go, baby.
USA tonight.
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