Will Cain Country - Does the WNBA Have a Race Problem... or a Caitlin Clark Problem? (ft. Vince August & Jaccob Slavin)

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

The WNBA appears to have a seemingly bottomless pit of animosity towards Caitlyn Clark, but is it a race issue, a sexuality issue, or a her issue? Comedian and Former Judge Vince August joins Will and... The Crew to examine the cause of the league's distaste for the Indiana Fever’s point guard, and whether recent outcry over a controversial lack of a foul call was deserved. Will and Vince also discuss how the growing Democratic Socialist movement managed a sweeping victory in New York earlier this week, and just how concerning it is for the future of our country.Plus, Olympic Gold Medalist and Stanley Cup Champion Jaccob Slavin joins the show to break down the strategy that made him the second American in history to claim two of the sport’s most prestigious trophies in the same season, and how his faith plays a major role in making him one of the best defensemen in the game.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Caitlin Clark, targeted, left out. Is it time to leave the WNBA? Is it time for a revolution in America? Country. Streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, but always here, by hitting follow at Spotify or on Apple, tinfoil, Pat, two days, Dan.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And in need of a nickname, comedian, former judge, Vince August here on Wilcane Country. What's up, Vince? Coming to you from the Will Cain City Studios in New York. That's right. We're going to change all of the wood to marble and granite while you're away, by the way. I'm going to make it very New York. Some gold. A little gold trim.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Change of leather chairs. You got some velvet, zebra print. Trumpian. By the way, as I'm sitting here. look yes i just got a text message i don't know if you know this kately clark was just called for three seconds for laying on the ground while she was being pummeled uh the refs blew to call last night she just got a three second violation they just updated three what is going on what is going on with kately clark last night and we can turn to our w in bay expert tinfoil pat for the details but last
Starting point is 00:01:54 night, Caitlin Clark seemed to have been the recipient of an all-out assault against the Phoenix Mercury. Dan, what do you have for me on this? Do you have video? Do you have a photo? Do you have anything that shows? I have the video of it. It's in slow-mo. It's from the broadcast, so you'll hear them talking. I can meet that. Okay. Zuprodo was in the law. Before you play. Zepruder? Before you play it. So I saw the photos this morning, and I told you, I'm seeing the photos, I'm not seeing the video. So the photo is a Phoenix Mercury player,
Starting point is 00:02:27 big girl, muscle bound, multiple girls. They dive for the ball. Caitlin kind of is in the scrum at the bottom on her back. And this girl number 25, her is it sexist to say
Starting point is 00:02:43 girl? My wife always corrects me and says woman. Is it sexist that I use the dominionative girl? Technically, but it's a southern thing. Is it? Is it? And at WNBA, there's a lot of latitude. You could use a lot of pronouns.
Starting point is 00:03:01 That's the first hate message I'm getting. Her hand goes really initially what, to the shoulder of Clark, but she looks like she intentionally balls a fist. Yeah. Well, she makes a fist in the midst of this. And then shoves her fist into the throat of Caitlin Clark. You see the photo, and Clark is wincing pretty hard. It looks bad.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So let's see the video together. Let me just see, because sometimes in sports, I'm going to be honest, sometimes in sports, I'm like bang, bang, play. We make too much. And it's still photo. I could take at any point in time and make it look bad for whoever on it to make it look bad. Exactly. Yeah. Well, exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Sports is like the ultimate in that. Like we take everything out of context. It's like why, and I like instant replay, but this is why instant replay is not good because you slow them down. even think it's accurate. You can't make an accurate judgment even from a slow motion replay. But you have slow motion, okay, right? On this play, Dan? Okay, let's take a look. What happened to Katelyn Clark? To the ground and, ooh, that's a to the ground. Yeah. Ooh, that's a hand to the neck. I don't have a problem with any of it, but the, the, a stepover at the end more than anything.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah. I think that's the worst part. When I saw it, I'm like, well, the other stuff, yeah, who knows, they're off balance, all of that. But now, once the whistle blows, there's a horn, plays over. The step over there, why? Like, the plays over. That was the thing to me that that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Well, you know why. A stepover is an act of disrespect. Yeah. Like if there is a stepover in basketball or in football, somebody's getting close. It is the point of the step over, 90% of the time is as an act of disrespect. Yeah. I leave that 10% because I think there are times where like a player's momentum when he's getting up.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You kind of, yeah, stumbles over another player. I mean, Iverson. But 90% of the time, it's like sunning somebody, right? It's like, you're so nothing to me. You are so beneath me that I am. walking over you. That's what the message is. Do we all agree that's like 90% of the time?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Which makes the first act probably malicious, if she's doing that second act to kind of send it home. I think they're different players, but look, I think the overall theme here is this is about Caitlin Clark. I mean, the question is if that's anybody else laying on the ground, are you getting a step over? I think that's the big question here. Dan, you're wearing two shirts you normally do.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Should you go in and give Vince your flannel? I mean, I feel bad for him. His shirt, something happened with his shirt. I don't know if he's drunk in the laundry. He's got his kid shirt on? It's an extra large, too. I don't know what to tell you. This is a Thursday guest theme, by the way.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So next week, we're going to also have a bold, ripped guy in studio. Who? The Rock? Jeff Robert, Steve, Irvine. There we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Just bringing in big guys. That's what we do here. I like the shirt, Vince. Thank you. Big game tonight, by the way. I'm celebrating. Obviously, well, doesn't care. Yeah, on this Trouty,
Starting point is 00:06:34 you don't have an Italian shirt on. Wow. Wow, really? All right. That's why he's doing it. September's around the corner. We'll talk football too. Hey, whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's the only way he wears an America shirt because Italy is left at home. That is so. national embarrassment. That's so unbelievably racist. It's unreal. It is an embarrassment. It's a national embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:06:55 This is right up there with Mussolini falling. The Italians is not in the World Cup. Like, where do you go? I'm going to own it. It was an embarrassment. I'm actually glad that it happened the way it did
Starting point is 00:07:07 because now you can break it down and build it all over again. But like Germany did and look at the Germans, they're back. Just leave fascism. Yeah, which is always a scary thing to say. Germany's back.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Like, you normally don't want to hear that, but in this context, Look at Germany. They tore it down. Now look at it. You know, you knock down a wall next thing, you know, here they are. They play pretty good. Do you think we are, you know how like for much of, like for a good stretch of history, the Europeans looked at the Germans with an extreme amount of caution, right? They were like, don't let the Germans build up.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Don't let the Germans start feeling themselves. That's bad news for everybody. I mean, I think they felt that way from about like the 1860s, the 1940s. That was probably the sentiment. Maybe even before the 1860s because you were dealing with the Huns and the vandals and the Germanic tribes. And it was just always like, don't
Starting point is 00:07:58 let them get organized. Don't let them start feeling good about themselves. It's just bad for the neighbors. Bad for the neighborhood. Do you think we are 80 years removed from World War II? Is there any of that that remains in the culture of the Polish,
Starting point is 00:08:14 the Dutch, the French? No. No. Do you think that... It's Russia now. It's all gone. It's Russia now. Yeah. Yeah. So since Rocky 4. There is no fear.
Starting point is 00:08:24 There's no fear anymore of the Germans. And by the way, the Germans for 80 years have done a good job of declawing themselves, right? They're defanged, declawed. They're not intimidating outside of the world of soccer. Well, that's what I'm asking. But the Berlin. Are there some real cultural historians out there going, guys, I know it's been 80 years. Don't sleep on them.
Starting point is 00:08:50 But the Berlin Wall really built Russia as much as it divided Germany. So historically speaking, that was really the beginning of what became the Soviet Union and then later on, you know, Russia after that all got divided. So I think it's been Russia ever since. Well, but I don't think it has to be an either or. I mean, you know, the only thing that brought Russia, the only thing that brought Russia into the fold of the allies. in World War II was that Hitler broke a treaty with Stalin. He first
Starting point is 00:09:25 had a treaty. What was it? The Ribbonoff whatever pact? I can't remember. But he broke that treaty with the Soviets. And that's what brought the Soviets into the fold of the Allies. Otherwise, the world was looking at Russia
Starting point is 00:09:42 skeptically at the same time it was dealing with Germany. So I don't think it was neither-or proposition, is what I'm saying. And it's just like, I just wonder. I'm talking about after the war, though. Yeah. Yeah, I'm talking about after World War II. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:58 No, until then, listen, it was a lot of scary white people in Europe, you know. That's what it was. And Russians, listen, when you hear accents, you have to think of what the scariest ones are. The Germans. It's either Germany or Russia. Yeah, you hear that white voice behind you walking down in Africa. And yeah, you're going to, you're going to walk quicker. Yeah, like, think about why Poland is like balling up right now, you know, like they're in
Starting point is 00:10:31 between the two. I wouldn't want to mess with them. I know. Stuff. I know. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with comedian Vince August here on Will Kane country. History isn't just in textbooks. It's the story of us.
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Starting point is 00:11:47 What's that? Why? Women? Why? This is on my team. Oh, the hate mail is coming, baby. Bring it. Oh, the chat is going after the guy in the American flag shirt. I love it. Bring it. Really? A little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh, good. Bring the chat in. I want to see it. So here's what I'm thinking about and why I want to talk about fascism for a minute. So, Vince, you've got these three people who have been elected in New York City. Okay. Two of them are members of the Democratic Socialists of America. One is basically. He's not officially, but basically. All right. So I don't think this can be overstated. I really don't. Like I said, I went on television yesterday. I said, this is, I think I did it here too. This is a truly breaking news, red alert. You know, Dan, I think you liked my analogy. I don't know if the people at Jamestown tasted the cyanide, you know, but this is you tasting. This isn't just Kool-A. This is you tasting it right now. And I don't think this should be dismissed because that's the stat today. Seven percent of active voters are the ones that actually elected these socialists in New York City. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Don't care about that. It does not take a large percentage of your population to move a country. The vast majority of people in a country go along to get along. Watch Love Island, go to Trader Joe's. They're not concerned. I think it was Kelsey Grammer with us earlier this week that said, that's the way it was during the American Revolution. It wasn't the entire colonists that were like, let's go, let's fight the British. It was a small percentage that drove this country into what it is today.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And so when you see a small percentage begin to take over congressional seats out of New York, I'm just telling you they're openly saying things that could never have been said before. Now, the rebuttal vents is socialist. Even if you go further and you go communist, I actually think that is a knife that does not have a sharp edge anymore. I don't think it does. People don't care. They don't, they're not afraid of socialism. They're not educated on socialism. And the brand, an accurate one, does not impact people. They're going to keep watching Love Island. And so, go ahead, Vince. Yeah, I'm going to tell you what I think the bigger problem here is. It's the fact that they can run as Democrats. I think the issue here is the two-party
Starting point is 00:14:18 system because if the Democrats within their own party look at this and say, hey, that's really not who and what we are, which is what we're hearing some of today from some of the people in the Democratic Party. Very few, but we're hearing some of them. Very few. Well, then why are they allowed? Who besides Federman? Who besides Federman is saying that? I thought I saw Godheimer from Jersey as well, jump on it. But regardless, the point is, when are we? we going to get to a point where we start actually having more parties? Like, when is Bernie going to be back to being a true independent or so, or whatever? Because the problem is they get to ride on a primary that gets them elected as opposed to running as their own party, because we know
Starting point is 00:15:09 what happens when people run into election boots. It's D.R. The answer is never. If you go D.R.S. Right. And, well, that's the problem. We're not opposed. parliamentary, we're not a parliamentary system. We are a two-party-based country. And that's a problem. And so what you're watching, Vince, is the Democratic Socialists take over the Democrat Party. Yes. And they are. They, now, now, is it a permanent constituency? Does it ebb and flow? I don't know. But right now, they are becoming the brand of the Democrats. And every Democrat is going to have to answer for it. I mean, I'm not overstayed. John Ossoff, right? Everybody likes John Ossoff on the left. Well, I shouldn't say everybody. The people that don't like Graham. Plattner love John Ossoff. You see what I'm saying? He is your genteel, presentable Democrat Senator from Georgia, and his name is getting pushed more and more as a presidential candidate. But John Ossoff has to stand there, and he's going to have to do this, and answer a question about socialism. And if he says, what you said, if he takes the path of Federman, he will not win a Democrat primary. He will not win it. I disagree with that,
Starting point is 00:16:15 and because of where he is. I think it, does matter where you are. Because I think it's a movement that you're seeing demographically with certain people of certain backgrounds. It's a big New York thing right now. Yeah, it may hit Michigan. We'll see. But it's mainly a big...
Starting point is 00:16:35 California? Well, I don't know. Is Bass going to lose that? May a race? I don't think so. I don't think she lose that. But my point is, what's the difference between Nithia Rahman and Bass? A brand?
Starting point is 00:16:44 She's like Brad Lander. Brad Lander is the guy that won New York who's not a full. a DSA candidate, but the things he said are indistinguishable from the DSA candidates. But again, it brings me back to the point of that's where the Democrats, you have to take control of your own party. We saw this with the Republicans with the Tea Party, too. So if it's not really what your party is, then somebody who's whoever's running, you know, the Democratic National Committee has got to say, hey, look, this isn't really what our
Starting point is 00:17:13 principles are. You're going to have to run as an independent. we're not going to let you run in our primary, run as your own candidate and your own party, which honestly I'm all for, I don't like the two-party system because I think no matter what happens, you always are going to have,
Starting point is 00:17:30 look at our country historically. Look, let's say there was a clean sweep of Democrats and we wind up in a one-party system. What's ultimately going to happen? The party's going to split in half because it's always going to be about power. It's always going to be about leverage. And you have party splits.
Starting point is 00:17:45 We've seen it historically. Since the foundation, of this country. You've constantly see party split. So I think the bigger issue is... I think the DSA... I think DSA's smart. And I saw a quote on this. They're using a Democratic Party as a ballot as a ballot access initiative.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yes. They know as a third party, they can't even get on the ballots. You can't get enough what if signatures and get through the process of getting on the ballot. So they're conducting a hostile takeover of the Democrat Party. And they are succeeding. And I don't know that the there's a course correction.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But here's what I'm saying. The rebuttal right now, like I even struggle with this, Vince, when I go on TV, I'm like, okay, we're writing this script and we're talking about, oh, they're socialist. I don't care. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Okay, well, let's lay out their ideas. Okay, that, da, da, da, da, da, Medicare for all, you know, higher taxes, free college tuition, debt forgiveness, open borders, no deportations. Even that, you're like, okay, I think that all those issues have sort of been, they're here. They've been around. You know, Bernie, even Biden was in on a lot of these ideas. And then you go to the rhetoric. Now,
Starting point is 00:18:55 the rhetoric may be a dividing factor. Like Darla Liza Chevalier. She's one of the new ones. She's talking about destroying America. Like legit. Those are her words, right? Destruction of America as a concept. And then rebuilding whatever she wants. Is that the thing that people will hear and go, hmm because i don't think they hear the word socialist and go hmm i don't think people people do not no but not the person watching love island but will what have we seen elections becomes really since trump they're reactionary trump is a reaction to obama okay most of the election outcomes are reactions and for as much as it's tear it down and you might hear some of the things that they're not hearing, but I think part of what, and again, everyone has selective hearing.
Starting point is 00:19:49 If our, over the last four years, six years, the Democrats had control House Senate, when did AOC, when did Bernie bring a Medicare for all vote to the floor? They didn't. We've seen the Republicans the last two years, House Senate. They haven't passed anything. Where's the Second Amendment stuff? if any one of these parties would have brought some type of health care package to the floor in the last six, eight years, are we seeing or hearing any of these candidates? So for as much as you're hearing their actual words, I think a lot of it is reaction to, well, the people that we're voting for are getting anything done. So maybe we do need to break it down. But see, see, I think, I think you're the guy drinking the Kool-Aid and you've tasted the cyanide, but you're like, I've had it before. It's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's not going to hurt. So it's growing. And the more you drink, the more socialist that get in, the more the higher prospect and likelihood that they can actually do some of the things they talk about. And there are more getting in. And so this is where I said I want to talk about fascism, right? So here's what I'm saying. Either, either it's all a big to do about nothing, which I kind of feel like you're saying. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I'm not. I'm telling you what they're hearing as opposed to what you're hearing. And I'm saying the rhetoric, which is dangerous, is not what's registering with them. That's why they make excuses for people like Platner. It's because, listen, yeah, I'm going to hold my nose. and pull this lever simply because the people that are there are getting nothing done. So if I have to hold my nose and try something new just to get something done, because look, they can't pass, the Republicans can't pass voter ID.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They can't come up with it. Bruin is the nationwide law on the Second Amendment. And at most states, AGs and blue states are enacting laws like crazy that are making conceal carry, impossible. where are the House and Senate Republicans passing any of this stuff? They're not. Democrats likewise, where was a health care bill? So if no one's passing anything and I have to hold my nose and take a chance on somebody willing to do something,
Starting point is 00:22:18 they're not hearing the rhetoric you're hearing. They're just thinking, hey, I got to change something. And again, I'm not justifying it. I'm just telling you it's selective hearing. Okay, I hear what you're saying now. I really do. Not selectively. I truly hear what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Here's where I tie it to the fascism thing where I was thinking about this. So Republicans have been using the word socialist to describe various Democratic politicians for a while. And I think there's a bit of a boy who cried wolf element to what's going on as well. Well, you called Obama a socialist. And by the way, I think that there was good reason to. And now you've got actual socialists who call themselves socialist and people don't hear it anymore. Because, and I think that's one thing that's going on. The second thing is, I think that there is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I think when you call everybody socialist, now it's like, here comes the real socialist. Do you see what I'm saying? I've arrived. What I'm saying is the Democrats have done the same thing with the concept of fascism. They have called everybody a fascist, right? And they're going to suffer from the boy who cried wolf phenomenon. And what more, there will be somebody who steps into the brand. I do believe it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy. There will be a fascist that kind of comes along.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It's not Donald Trump, no matter what you guys say or what you want to believe. But I don't know when it is, five years, ten years, just like we're seeing socialism being openly embraced, you will see within five to ten, I would say, somebody openly embrace a more fascist label. But what's the easiest way to disarm the insult of socialism? embrace it and say, you want to call me a socialist? Yeah, okay, I'm for Medicare for all. I'm for cheaper, if not free tuition. Okay, I'm for lower prices.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I'm for cheaper prices for food. Now, whether the concepts work, again, that's not the issue. The issue is, and how they're portraying it is, okay, I'm a socialist. What's so bad about what I want for everybody? And again, what people are hearing is, yeah, what's so bad about that? I'm on board with that.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Yeah, and that's the same thing's going to happen with fascism. 100%. Yeah. You own the label and you say, okay, so what's so bad about fascism? And you redefine it. Let's be honest, Nazi has been redefined. It's been watered down to the point where you could call anybody a Nazi for anything as an insult. You're racist. You're not.
Starting point is 00:25:00 be able to identify the real thing. You'll never be able to identify it. And when the real thing comes along says, that's in fact what I am, it won't have a punch. It'll have no impact. You watered down the language. And so here's another great example. This will take us back to the WNBA. I said this to Dan this morning. You know what word has no impact anymore? Racist? It has no impact whatsoever. You threw it around everywhere. Honestly, there was a time in my career. I got called that for any host of opinions I had on sports, you know, and it bothered me for a while. It doesn't bother me at all anymore. None. In fact, I think it's obviously a reflection on them, not on me. Like, if you're that person that says that, you've told me more about you than in
Starting point is 00:25:47 anything about me. And so people are done with it. Right, because you lose the argument. But that being said, real racists come along then. That's what happens. Real racist. Real racists come along and you have created a playing field where they're not afraid of it. They're not shy about it. And nobody can distinguish it. All of those things. It becomes the default to an argument you can't win, which is, I'm just going to call you a racist, Ed. If we're going to disagree on this point, I'm right and you're wrong because you're a racist.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It's the default setting of I've run out of points. So here's what I'm going to throw out. And people see through that. People are seeing through that. They're like, you ran out of argument. So now this is what you're going to default on. This is what we talked about, Carol, yesterday, on anti-Semitism, too. I think the gratuitous use of calling things anti-Semitic has undercut.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's fascinating how something in a 10-year time frame, all of these labels, went from the biggest impact. Like, you could use one of those and you could really hurt somebody, personally, professionally, politically. And now, almost all of the labels have no impact, none whatsoever. And the anti-Semitic thing now was really tricky because it could be, well, hold on a second. I could be against Israeli policy, but that doesn't make me anti-Semitic. I'm against that country. Right. A lot of people can't find the difference, though.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Right. And that's the thing. So it becomes this word game. But, Dan, increasingly, those people not only don't matter, they, create the conditions which they are actually talking about. Do you see what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. Not exclusively. There's a lot of things to go into it. But I think the people that enthusiastically call everybody a racist end up creating racists. And by the way, for a lot of them, that might be what they want. That might be actually what they want. I mean, the one election
Starting point is 00:27:51 that was really interesting in New York was the Goldman one with Dan Goldman, because he, He was in a weird situation, if you remember, with his wife, where his wife put out a tweet or made a comment or something, and then he distanced himself from it and is like, look, that was my wife's opinion. And we have, you know, look, we get along, you know, we're married, we're happily married, and she made a comment and I disagree, it's not my whole. So he was in that weird, and for me as an outsider that, look, I'm an affiliate. This is your race.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You guys do what you want. It was really hard to see him lose and feel bad for him because that's the perfect type of candidate that I look at and say, well, let's see what you are. You're $250 million out of law school before you did anything because of your family. You bought yourself into the Southern District of New York as a Nepo baby. You wind up, you spent $5 million of your own money to win a seat that place. Is he Levi's? Yeah, he's Levi's.
Starting point is 00:28:56 What is Goldman? Levi's money? So you spend five million of your own money to get a job that pays $176,000 a year. And all you did for six, seven years is have Trump derangement syndrome. I have to be honest, seeing that guy get picked off, didn't really bother me. You know, no, me neither. But it's funny, the Trump derangement syndrome thing became the way to get elected in a play to the base of the left until it wasn't good enough. That's not good enough. We need you to be totally anti-Israel, anti-American now.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That's done. The O.C. is even getting roasted. AOC is getting roasted now because she's not in the center of things. Even though she started it, they're still distancing themselves from her. Oh, yeah. Really? What do you mean? She's not mixing it up enough?
Starting point is 00:29:42 What are you saying? She's a DSA. She becomes the establishment. Oh, yeah. The pack is going to. She's like a Jeffries. She's the next one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:48 She's going to get eaten by the pack, too. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, I think that's how fascinating. I think that's how fascinating. stuff works. Yes. You know, I was talking to Bobby Burrack about probably like about the chiefs and he's like, I just don't know how they don't win the next six Super Bowls in a row. And I'm like, there's always something that will pop up and it'll stop them, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And that's how it is in politics, too. I believe somebody was talking about how the DSA is actually bad for black and Hispanics, Democrats, and you're actually going to see a pushback from them potentially trying. trying to stop them from getting inroads there. So you never know what's going to come up. No, AOC is actually not far enough left at this point because of her voting history and some of the things that she's done or not done. Because look, the one thing is there was a time where she got elected, she had the courage of her convictions. And then Nancy Pelosi gave her a smackdown.
Starting point is 00:30:53 She backed off lost committee chairs, then started playing the game. And people like, oh, okay, so you're going to just play the game? And she's going to get picked off by one of these new people that. This is the new crop that's even further left than her. Let's take a quick break. But continue this conversation with comedian Vince August here on Will Cain Country. Welcome back to Will Cain Country. We're still hanging out with comedian Vince August.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Might I suggest to AOC, perhaps? explore porta potty's. Graham Plattenor's on the rise. And Patrick, I think you have something new here from Graham Platner, right? What's the latest on Graham Platner? Oh, yeah, we have a clip here. We'll play it for you. He was walking by a group of porta potties and somebody, he just got a nice ribbing.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So here we go. Graham Platner. Do those porta-potties make you think about anything? Graham, do you have to use a porta-potty right now? Does the blue water still make you want to masturbate, sir? Can I just, can I tell you how bad I am at social media? I have a buddy who's about to go into the porta-potty business, and this past weekend he's in town from California,
Starting point is 00:32:15 and we went and visited the yard, and I just realized this is on my phone. You know, here I am looking at porta-potties. if you guys can see that. Careful, Will. And I didn't even think. Maybe I should post this on social media and say, looking for Graham Platner or something.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I still can. It's not too late, Will. Please. No. I don't know. Not my style. He should get sponsored by a Porterbottie company. I mean, it's the only logical explanation for anything.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Graham or me? Graham. Yeah. We're going to tweet it out from Moulcane City. Vulcane City is going to be a new X-handle. We're going to tweet it out from here. somebody has to well let's take this full circle back to
Starting point is 00:33:02 Caitlin Clark and the WNBA okay um the Phoenix Mercury okay is you sent them to me Phoenix Mercury put this out so it's an image of like a stick figure drawing I guess is that supposed to be Caitlin Clark
Starting point is 00:33:19 the uniform doesn't look like Indiana fever uniform and it's like a cartoon But it's her numbers, isn't it? It was very poorly done. The little character says, do you want a piece of this? I don't want to get that.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Somebody explain it to me. They seem to be leaning into this moment where she's punched in the neck. Yes. I think the player who hurt her, her name starts with the something. I don't know what it is. Dawa.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Dwana? Dwana? Yeah. So, but what doesn't make sense is Caitlin Clark's the one on the ground. Yeah. And so she wouldn't say Do you want a piece of this?
Starting point is 00:33:58 That's her. Well, they're saying she's not tough. Like, she's not as tough as they, she thinks she is. Yeah, but you think that they would be in other colors. Or, you know, the other girl, like, I don't know. That's a fail. It's just poorly done.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But it's still up, you know. All right, so let's take this full circle. Let's do it. So, Vince, I agree that that, that I'm actually not that bothered. I've seen the video now. I think that the, let's walk through step by step. One, I think that the girl intentionally did that to Caitlin Clark's neck. Okay. I think it's 100% intentional. She slides her fist from the shoulder into the neck. Two, she did it to be, what is the word? Provocative or chippy or dirty. She did it to be that player.
Starting point is 00:34:51 There are a lot of players like that. I'm honestly not that offended by a player that does that. That's not as bad as what Draymond does. That's not as the kind of stuff. Like that kind of thing? She's been in. I know, but they're still doing it, is what I'm saying. They're still trying to treat her.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So that doesn't bother me. Three, the step over, to your point, Vince, is the biggest act of disrespect involved. Yeah, I think so. For, your point in the end, is this is, though about Caitlin Clark. No doubt. And Caitlin Clark's experience in the WNBA is not good. These girls resent her.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They go after her. But why? She's completely unearned. She's done nothing. Yeah, exactly. She's done nothing personally to get it. Well, it's part of this. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:35:42 The WMBA put out a poster celebrating its 30 years. Who knew? 30 years of the WMBA. 30 years. And people are upset pointing out, look, she's not featured at all in this photo. And it's pretty hard to argue that Caitlin Clark's not one of the most, I don't know, what are we going to call her? Influential, important figures in the history of the WMBA already.
Starting point is 00:36:08 She has put it on the map in ways, I don't care if it's been around for 30 years. Ratings, audience, everything. Will, you just hit it. That's it. Ratings, audience. That's all that matters. That's all that matters. And it started to really blow up with her.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Why would you sabotage the thing that's bringing you success? I don't get it. Yeah. They should be thanking Caitlin Clark. And I know I'm going to get attacked for this one too. I don't think it's race because there are other white players in this league that haven't gotten to anything close to this. And were the face of the league, even now.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Those white girls, those white girls, first of all, I don't watch enough WM, I didn't know, but the first pick of the dress. This year? Yeah, what was her name? The kid from Connecticut, no? As he fud, as he fud. I thought there was a girl from Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:37:13 That was a, you know, a white girl that jumped into the league. Was it? That was her girlfriend from the year before. Okay. All right. Page B. It's a good sign that you don't know the name. Dude, I don't watch the BN.
Starting point is 00:37:23 No, that's what I'm saying. Isn't that a good sign that no one knows? Yeah. But that's... Except for Kitt and Clerk? Yeah. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So, you know, I don't... I just think this is about... And is it because she broke the record in college? Let me show you something. Look at this photo. Let's poster. This is Paige Becker's. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:44 She's on there. She's on there. She's been in the league two years. Right. Two years, and Caitlin Clark's been in, how many years? Three? And she's top five scoring, top five assists right now, Caitlin Clark. Correct.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So it's not like these are all legends of the last 30 years. There are new players on here. I mean, isn't this one right here, Angel Reese? Yeah. Isn't that Angel Reese right there? She leads rebounds. So Angel Reese. Angel Reese makes it, but no Caitlin Clark.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And so here's the difference, Vince. Caitlin is straight and white. That makes her not one of one, but that puts her in a smaller group. And it's that she is the face of the WNBA. That's the main one. She is the popularity facing the mate, and that's what they resent. And yeah, her race does come into play there. The face of the WNBA, Pace Becker's isn't the face.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Sue Bird is not the face. Diana Tarasi is not the face. The face. Can't be a straight white girl in Caitlin Clark. And I'm going to tell you this. For this one, I don't want to hear any man bashing. This has got nothing to do with men. This is women hating on women.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So leave men out of this because normally it's men that get killed for this kind of thing with paid disparity, everything. This is a woman thing. This is all women hating on women. You know, it's funny you say that, Vince, because I was reading it, reading a a post earlier this week. It was talking about how Katie Perry feels like she always has these rivals. I think it was,
Starting point is 00:39:25 who's the broad from? Broad. Broad. Fleetwood Mac. What is this? 1925. Patrick just took over to hate mail stuff. Thank you. I'm off the home.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Great. Who says that? But it's true. Look, I just, who was the country singer from, she just got ripped apart all over X because of what she was wearing? Shania Twain.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Women, went after because she was dancing around on stage and they're like, oh my God, this is inappropriate. All women. All women. Guys were just like, I don't care. Yeah, we're good. I miss the Shania Twain story. Getting catty.
Starting point is 00:40:00 She's, what is Shania 60? And she was in some skimpy stuff? She looks fantastic. Whatever. Front row, baby. I'm there. Yeah. She's been an all-timer for a while.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Man, I feel like going to a concert. There we go. Yeah. Okay. Vince August is going to stay with us here. I don't know how you're going to do this, Dan. Which one of you were leaving? Because you both have questions for my next guest as well. So I don't know how you guys you want to do this. But you have a question for him. We're pretty excited because coming up, Olympic gold medalist, Stanley Cup champion, Jacob Slavin, U.S. men's hockey. Next on Wilcane Country. Hey, for over two decades, the Tunnel of Towers Foundation has been there for our fallen and catastrophically injured first responders, military, and Gold Star families. Born from the tragedy of 9-11, Tunnel to Towers provides mortgage-free homes to Gold Star and fallen first responder families with young children and build specifically adapted smart homes for their catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. The Foundation also offers scholarships for college and trade school programs for the children of Gold Star families,
Starting point is 00:41:08 fallen first responders, and catastrophically injured veterans. And Tunnel of Towers is committed to eradicating veteran homelessness and helping America never forget September 11th. To learn more about the foundation's mission, impact, and how you can support our nation's heroes, visit t2t.org. That's t2t.org. All right, joining Tinfoil Pat, Vince August, and me now, is a recent Stanley Cup champion, an Olympic gold medal winner. A defenseman for the Carolina Hurricanes, it is Jacob. What's up, Jacob? What's going on, guys?
Starting point is 00:41:44 How are you doing? Good. Glad to have you, man. Glad to have you. What's better? The Olympic gold medal or the Stanley Cup? They're both amazing. I'll start with that.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Both amazing. Both are different, though. They're different in the sense that one, start with the gold medal, right? You get represented country. It's an unbelievable honor to wear the red, white, and blue to represent the country, to be at the Olympics. And to come home with the gold medal, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:16 but only with those guys for two and a half weeks, and then I go right back to playing against those guys in NHL, whereas I've been in Carolina for 11 years now. My wife and I, we call this home during the offseason. We stay here during the off season now, and so it's been home to us for 11 years. And to be with this city, with the organization so long, and just the way the community is here,
Starting point is 00:42:41 and a lot of been teammates with the guys, seven, eight, nine years, some of them 11 years, it's special to win with people that feel like your family. And so I'm going to say they're both amazing, but different as well. So, Jacob, I'm a big sports fan. I'm a Dallas guy. We've won a lot of championships in our lifetime. Well, I should say in my lifetime, I'm old enough to remember the Cowboys winning championships.
Starting point is 00:43:09 But my favorite, maybe my favorite fandom championship is the 2011 Dallas Maverick. Now here's why. Because for a good decade plus, I watched, we all watched, Dirk Novitsky struggle, get close, fail, and then finally break through in 2011. And there was like such a pressure release valve as a fan. And I know for the players, too, you could see it in what it meant. With the hurricanes, you guys have been in a similar situation where you've been there. And by the way, I'm a Dallas Stars fan. And I feel the same way like Western Conference Finals, Western Conference Finals, Western Conference Finals, Western Conference Finals, can't get over. that hump into it. And that is kind of what you guys experienced with Carolina. Finally now here, you guys break through. And I don't know, that kind of championship has to have a different emotional impact. Maybe than the one you would get if you were in the league two or three years and on an amazing team. Yeah, 100% it does. A hundred percent it does. I remember first coming into the league. And first three years of my career in Raleigh, we weren't good. We weren't making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:44:14 By the time we finally did make the playoffs in 2019, it had been nine years since we made the playoffs. And going to a game on a Tuesday night in Raleigh, there might have been 5,000 fans. Those first couple of years I was in the league. And so then Rod Brindamore takes over as head coach. We make the playoffs that first year. He's there. And you can just feel it build. We went to the conference finals that year.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Ended up getting swept. And then it took us some years to get back to the conference finals. But we made the playoffs every year, always won our first round series. So like we had the success, but we could never just get over that hump like you're talking about with the Mavs. And so for us, yeah, we, I mean, there's probably, I think, six guys, seven guys who have been with us that whole time since 2019, where we were making playoffs every year, but couldn't get over that hump. And so, yeah, to do it this year with the group of guys that we had. And yeah, the young guys that came in have been with us a year, maybe two years. Like, it's still so exciting for them.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And obviously, their dream is to win a Stanley Cup one day. and they finally achieved that goal. But for players that have been here for eight, nine years, like this was special. It was special. We've always had a great locker room, guys who have come from like trade deadline stuff. We had a guy come this year at the trade deadline.
Starting point is 00:45:25 He's like, this is the best group of guys I've ever been around. Like, you guys have something special in this locker room. And so just knowing the tightness that we have in the locker room and the group of guys that we have there, you're doing it with family. And it's awesome. Can I jump in here? Because as a huge hockey football,
Starting point is 00:45:41 fan and you took out my habs. Thanks for that. What I saw you guys do this here and I'm curious to know how much of the locker room and the system lend to each other because what you were able to do defensively and just take out the center of the ice between the circles and just shut down passing lanes and nothing came straight. Everything was from the outsides and it was almost like watching the devil's neutral zone trap from back in the day. Only you guys did it to the second. of the ice. Some deep hockey talk for everybody. It was a difference.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It was a difference. All right, Vince, he gets it. You know hockey. He gets it, Vince. You know hockey. But how much of that is locker room and system, you know, how much of that has to work together in order for you guys to be able to do what you did? Yeah, I think it plays, they play on each other nicely.
Starting point is 00:46:35 With Roddy being our coach, the style of play that we have, it takes a lot and it takes a lot of selflessness, honestly, because if you look at our roster, we don't have like a top superstar who gets all the fame, right? We have a lot of, we have some unbelievable players absolutely in some of the best in the league, but no one's, no one's a McDavid, no one's a McKinnon type player, right? And so you have to have a lot of buy-in. And that's really what Roddy has tried to implement in the past eight years that he's been head to coaches, is implementing that type of buy-in and that type of sacrifice of self to, for the betterment of the team. And so yeah, when it comes to our on-style on-ice style of play, there is that that selflessness
Starting point is 00:47:16 of, okay, it's not all about me out here. I got to play the way that our team plays in order for us to be successful. And that's what you saw this year. And we've had it for years of buying. And if there's guys that have come to the team that haven't bought into it, they get weeded out pretty quickly. And so we have such a good locker room off the ice that, yeah, 100% it translates on the ice with how we play, the work ethic that our system takes and the commitment. to it. So are you disappointed, Vince? Did you want Jacob's first response to be, wow, that was a great question. That was really, really. Your hockey knowledge is great. I wouldn't even have been able to put in the New Jersey trap. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Jacob. He's played a trap.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah, that's, that see, he's going to go home. He's going to be filled with joy from that. Just that little bit you gave him right there. So I think you're the first guy since, is it 1980? Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be. Right. Correct. To win the gold medal and the Stanley Cup in the same year. You're the first, first dude to do it. What are you going to do with your day with the Stanley Cup? Actually, planning that as we speak, right before I came on, my wife and I were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I think we're going to have it here in Raleigh. I think there's an unbelievable barbecue spot that I would like to take it to. I know the owner of it, best barbecue I've ever had, prime barbecue. So I'll go there. And then at nighttime, have a nice little party with it, with friends, family. figuring out what to do with it during the beginning part of the day, but also post with an ice cream shop owner out here, two roosters, and I have a nice, got a slave-in-sunday.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And so I put a big old slave-in-sunday in it and eat that out of it. My son wants to eat yogurt out of it, and my daughter wants to eat some cereal out of it. So just enjoying the day with the family. Oh, I want to see cereal in the Stanley Cup. That's like a good usage right there. Just some cap and crunch floating in the top of the Stanley Cup. That's good.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Pat, I know you want to ask them a question. Captain Crunch. Oh, come on, one day. One day, don't make a good. I agree. I agree. There hasn't been Captain Crunch in our household since my kids have been born, though. So we've got to figure out. Maybe we use these puffs.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I'll let her go with those. Eating those Catalina Crunch, protein cereal, something like that for her? That's my wife's favorite, exactly. Let's take quick break. But continue this conversation with the Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup champion. Olympic gold medalist Jacob Slavin on Wilking Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Olympic gold medalist and Stanley Cup champion, Jacob,
Starting point is 00:49:46 Jacob, Jacob. Pat, I know you want to ask Jacob about being a nice guy. You're muted there. So I don't know how to unmute myself. So anyway, sorry about that. I always botch it. So, have you ever been in a fight? One.
Starting point is 00:50:08 One? One. And juniors. And juniors. I'm like going through your bio. Now, when I played hockey, if I ever made the league, I was terrible, okay? But I was in bantoms.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I was a guy who went for heads, all right? But I'm like, how do you, how do you do you, how are you such a good defenseman without ever like getting any penalty? Like I don't think you got over 10 penalty minutes in a season. It's crazy. Yeah, no, I hate taking penalties. I'll start there. I hate taking penalties.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Always have as a kid, like young kid, I think I would cry every time I went to the penalty box. So that place just has bad memories for me. Um, as far as playing now, uh, honestly, it's just my, it's been always been my style of play. I wasn't the biggest kid growing up. Um, obviously eventually hit my girl spurt, but so I always had to rely on skating and positioning to be a good defenseman and good stick work.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And then eventually over time, that just continued to evolve and, and got to be to the point where that's, that's my staple is playing really good defense. And so, um, still not the most physical guy. Still don't go out there looking to take off. like you did in Bannums, but go out there and just try to shut down, shut down the other team's top players and do it in a way that I know how to do it, which is good skating abilities and good positioning, good stick work, all that stuff. But yeah, I still hate taking penalties.
Starting point is 00:51:32 There was one year I took only one penalty and it was for puck over the glass. And that was one of the years that I want the lady of being. But funny story with that is the next year I went to the locker room and new guy comes to our team. He's just like, hey, congrats on winning that award, but isn't it kind of embarrassing to win that award to the defensemen? And I was like, what do you mean? He goes, well, like, we're defensemen. We're supposed to be tough. We're supposed to cross-check people in front of the net. Like, don't you ever just want to give a guy a good cross-check? And I was like, not necessarily. Not necessarily. And I think if I really, if I really break it down,
Starting point is 00:52:09 it's, God has given me a very calm temperament. And it takes, it takes a lot to get me mad, and my wife can attest to that, that I don't know if she's ever, like, seen me truly angry before. And so when it goes to on-ice style, it's not like a flip switches in my head when I play the game. Like, God, even on the ice, it's giving me a calm temperament where I just want to go out there and glorify him and do it through how I play the game.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I want to play the game with respect. I want to play the game with good character and good integrity. They could really use you in the WMBA right now. I've got to tell you. Yeah, and I also like by implication that I like by implication Patrick played ungodly hockey in Vantoms.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Which I got thrown out my first game for boarding. Yeah. Well, a little happy Gilmore reference for you about not the only guy to get kicked out league for trying to take a skate off.
Starting point is 00:53:06 That was you? Pretty much. Jacob, let's talk about Team USA for a minute. And I don't know, I don't know the background on this. I'm watching the World Cup. I don't know if you care about the World Cup watching this. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I was thinking about it, and I do follow soccer. My boys play soccer. Now we've all told Jacob our personal stories. But these guys, I was fascinated by this. These guys make so much money as a pro. And then they go do this. And they're going to make some in the World Cup, but they're not going to make anything that compares to what they make professionally.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And then they put so much on the line and the risk of injury and these kind of things. And in today's modern sports environment, look, where collegiate athletes are making a ton of money, and it's all about the money. And I'm not even indicting that. I'm just saying money, it's a job and it's a profession. But then all of a sudden, here comes the Olympics or here comes the World Cup. And guys are doing something at an incredibly reduced rate. Is that even a conversation among the guys? Like, man, if I get hurt doing this, like, what does that mean for what I do for a living? You know what I mean? Or it doesn't come up at all? Honestly, it really doesn't come up. It's one of those things where, even last year with Four Nations, and it just not even being the Olympics, like guys were excited to play that type of hockey. I mean, the first nine seconds of that game against Canada, you got three fights, right?
Starting point is 00:54:27 And so there's just, there's passion, there's a lot of passion in putting on the USA sweater, and obviously for the Canadians, the same thing with putting on their jersey. Like, there's just passion to represent your country. And there's that rivalry, the history between the U.S. and Canada, But then you go to the Olympics and it's the same thing. Like all of us as kids, we were growing up watching the movie miracle.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And you just get, you get excited when you think about that movie and then you get to go live that dream out. And so money when it comes to those kind of situations, like you don't have to motivate us with a paycheck for that kind of situation. Like we're excited to be there. We're excited to play hockey for our country with a chance to win a gold medal. Like that's all the motivation you need is you could you could tell us right now to go play an exhibition game against Canada and every single guy would be pumped to do it because it's going to, you know, it's going to be a fun hockey game. And you know, there's going to be a lot of passion and competitiveness in it. And we just have, there's a pride in representing the country. Is there an emotional drop though?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Because like watching the world baseball classic and seeing those guys go directly into their season, you could see numbers I've dipped for a lot of those. players that went far in that tournament coming straight out of that gold medal like ultra high level back into regular season emotionally is there like a a drop in play that you have to get yourself back up for i i would agree 100 percent i think that you come back and you get back into the grind of the regular season i think we came back and it was game number 50 something out of 82 and you're just you're playing for a gold medal one day and now you're playing a Tuesday night game and we're all in there. And even just like you're playing
Starting point is 00:56:13 versus Canada in the Olympic gold medal game and the pace of play. I mean, that's probably one of the fastest games I've ever been a part of, some of the best hockey I've ever been a part of. And then you go, not that a Tuesday night game against Thursday night game against Tampa Bay. It's not like there's a lack of
Starting point is 00:56:32 skill out there. But there's definitely a lack of, I wouldn't say intensity, but just of I don't know what the word I'm trying to, what's on the line, right? There wasn't much on the line in the game. Obviously, there's two points in the standings, which is huge, but it's not Olympic gold medal.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And so there's that drop off. So I have two things I want to ask you. I know, Jake, so on that note, momentum. The concept of momentum in sports, I'm a full-on believer of it in the context of a game. Like, in the game, you can feel things switching in one single game. It doesn't mean it can't be stopped. There's a lot of guys that can do it.
Starting point is 00:57:15 In your game, hockey is the craziest where you feel the momentum shifting. Basketball has its runs, but like hockey, it's a visceral feel. Oh my God. Like the momentum is totally shifted. The ice is tilted. But do you think momentum over a longer period of time is a real thing? Like, so take the men's national team in the World Cup, right? They're playing Turkey today.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I guess we're supposed to now say Turkey A, not Turkey. The game is meaningless. It's not going to have an impact on their seating in the knockout round and all that. In your sport, you know, if you clinch a series in four and your next round matchup goes a full seven, you've got a layoff of a while. It could be a week of not playing and you're used to playing what it is every three days or so. Is that kind of momentum real? Like where the kind of momentum I'm talking about that lasts for a couple of weeks and a layoff because you're playing so well is actually bad.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I think so. I think we kind of experienced that this year, right? We sweep our first two series against the senators, against the flyers. And then we have 11 days, 12 days until we actually play a game one against the Canadians. And I think, I mean, I know for myself, it was probably one of the worst games of my career. My dad let me know that in the most loving way possible. But we come out and we lose. And then we get back to it and end up winning the next four. So I think to your point, you Yes, I think there can be something to a big layoff that can hurt. I think in the long run, having that long layoff helped us out, though, because we got the rest. We got the little brunts and bruises that healed up. But I think maybe for a game, that layoff definitely hurts. And I think we came out and we just weren't as dialed in as we had been in those previous series. But we got back to it pretty quickly, thankfully.
Starting point is 00:59:08 But yeah, I think there's an element to that. I appreciate you giving Vince Hope and just snatching it away, by the way. Yeah, that was nice. Patrick, I'm going to ask him about what you've been curious about. So Patrick's a Panthers fan, and Brady Kachuk has just traded to Florida. And what do you shake? Okay. He is very curious about the reception of the American players back in Canada after the Olympics,
Starting point is 00:59:39 and if it was a real thing. like with the fans and in the locker room. And maybe it's not just winning the gold. Maybe it's also becoming Captain America in the wake of it, you know, and that kind of thing. But do you know, I mean, your buddies with all these guys, was it hard? And we don't have to talk about Brady specifically if you don't want to,
Starting point is 00:59:57 but there's a lot of guys, Austin Matthews. There's other guys that had to go back to Canada and play professionally. Was that a difficult thing for them, locker room or with the organization or with the fans? Yeah, honestly, I couldn't give you a, an answer because one, I never experienced it and two, I haven't talked to any of those guys about that situation. I mean, I know Canadians weren't happy for the U.S. winning, but at the same time, I know when playoffs came around and we were playing Ottawa Senators in the first round, Ottawa's all, I mean, all their fans were pumped if Brady did something well, right? And so I think,
Starting point is 01:00:35 and that was a couple months after the fact, so I don't know about immediate response to it. but I mean, it could have been a little bit of hard feelings, but I think at the end of the day, as soon as they put on a Maple Leaf sweater or a Senator's jersey, those fans are still going to support their team the same way they would have if we won or if we lost. Because you got lucky. I mean, you're in Raleigh, so there's not just back there.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm in Raleigh. We came back. There was a USA chant going on, and even at the rally for our parade, get up to speak, and the USA chance starts. So I know for my experience, it was great. Everyone was pumped up. Everyone loved it. For guys in the Canadian markets, I'm not so sure of.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. Well, this has been a lot of fun. Jacob Slavin is the second guy, first since 1980, when the Stanley Cup and the Olympic Gold Medal in the same year. And he's awarded the nicest guy in hockey. And he's proven that up here today hanging out with us. Jacob, it's great to meet you, great to talk with you. Thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah, absolutely, guys. Thanks for having me. It's a good time. Thank you. All right. There you go. It's Jacob Slavin here on Will King Country. All right, before we go today, let's turn to the audience. Let's turn to the Willisha and see what they have to say. We've got a couple of comments that have come in. John N5, N5R on YouTube says the WNBA is a woke league built 95% on lesbians promoting their ideology, and Caitlin Clark is a straight white female who goes against their agenda. Accurate?
Starting point is 01:02:10 I don't know. We've had that conversation. I don't know if 95% is accurate. Is it supposed to be like... What's the over-un? 98, you mean? 50 or something like that is the actual supposed number? Like 50-40-0-0.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah, look it up. Still higher than society. It's like 50-40-5%. If you put it at 50, I take the over. I'm telling you, I mean, it's like 50-45. What are the other five? No, I'm saying 45% to 50%. Approximately 25%.
Starting point is 01:02:40 of active WMBA players it says way under that's that seems low way under that's just not true there's no way hey that's what um char benta says look at the video you are so missing the boat here
Starting point is 01:02:56 which way though um I don't know what you I think they were I think they were on against Vince here yeah they're talking talking to Vince there about what the video the video is worse and Vince downplayed it?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, I think they disagreed. But the stepover was worse. Again, man, it's hard to be in that moment. And anyone who's played sports, you know, heat of moment, it's hard to say what's intent, what's not. I like to give the benefit of the doubt in sports and just say it's part of the battle and part of what you're doing. Again, when the whistle blows and there's a clear whistle and a horn blowing there,
Starting point is 01:03:39 to me when you anything after that that's intent that's intent oh well look at here I'm going to be careful with this handle dat I don't know
Starting point is 01:03:52 I don't even want to try it sure yeah just leave it out that's fun that in a GA she stepped over her because someone shot a three-pointer and she was going for the rebound again
Starting point is 01:04:06 they didn't you know didn't see that but that's why when you see a part of a video or you see a still, it could be a lot more going on. Donald Wofford says, you in the flag shirt, idiot. Love it. Love it. Who is that? Donald.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Love it. Donald. I love the angry face, the emoji. He added the emoji. Oh, love it. That's like when you're in traffic and someone gives you a finger. Just the way that you could see the knuckle. go white, it's like, is all of that
Starting point is 01:04:40 for me? Yeah. Betty Wheaton says something to me, you don't say boy for a male, so why are you saying, girl? She's saying when it comes to these females. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So, should I say females? Sexes. Do not say females. No. Right. That doesn't sound right, right? It's cringy. It's bad. Hello, females. Just do what I do.
Starting point is 01:05:05 that. Broads. What? Broads. Broads? Is it 1924? Am I don't say it. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Here's, Blessed of God said, some are welcoming A.T's. I don't know what A.T. That's the player that, what does that mean? That hit her, I think. That was part of it. By saying that Caitlin Clark deserved it due to an on-court behavior and impact.
Starting point is 01:05:33 The WNBA has a code red payback. culture of non-calls, pettiness, double standards, and retributive attacks. Don't watch enough to know. I mean, could be. Seems like it with one person. Yeah. I mean, who knows? Again, I don't know why,
Starting point is 01:05:52 but it's clearly about her. And who knows? Could be deserved. Our boy, our boy, first round by says, sounds like Vince is getting on the Democratic Socialist train. Ride that train, baby. Right it. I want all kinds of free stuff. I like it. Free stuff. Like even Will treats me like a socialist.
Starting point is 01:06:10 He doesn't pay me to be here. I love it. Free stuff for Will. Free stuff for Will. I was actually thinking Vince should come hang out more often. Then I thought, this happened in my head in this show. But we're not going to pay him. We get minutes.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Even two of days. Now in New York, he has to be called one of days because Bernie Sanders says no one should walk two shows to support. The support. Bocahnoo is an oligarch. flying back and forth, Dallas. New York, Dallas. That's good. That's good, Bernie. He's an oligarch.
Starting point is 01:06:43 He's an oligarch. He supports Donald Trump, who is, I've said, an existential threat to democracy. That's pretty good. It's really good. Yes. I like it. Do you have more? I do impersonations.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I just don't, I haven't done him as much as of late, but yeah, if I work on a voice, I'll get it. Yeah. I grew up. I used to do like, job. John Travolta, Vinnie Barbarino, straight out of Welcome Back, Haida. What's going on? Here, Will King, it's good to be on the show. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 01:07:13 This is great. I love the studio. Do you do a Trump? Everybody does a Trump. Will Kane, greatest show. Let me tell you, bigger numbers, numbers like you've never seen, numbers like you've never seen. Two, 300 people. Watch at the same time.
Starting point is 01:07:30 It's amazing to see that many people come out and watch all at one time on a podcast. that's great that's better than yours will way better than mine with trump it's all about the tone he goes really loud all the once and then all of a sudden he's very calm
Starting point is 01:07:45 he's not as upset there's like a whisper and there's a little whisper he interrupts himself you did that well like you started a sentence but then you interrupted yourself and went in a different direction yes he does that
Starting point is 01:07:57 he's the king of doing that I love it um what was I going to say I don't know I don't know man that is not a smooth landing pull the rip cord
Starting point is 01:08:15 didn't land the plane I just had to start playing the music for you there landing gear did not come down bellyed that plane onto the runway USA everybody watch party yes it's 10 p.m.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Keep it going you got to keep the momentum going I know the game technically doesn't mean nothing that's why it's even more important for them to go out and win the game. That's right. Turkey A. Turkey A. Cherokee.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Serve them up. Pluto. All the things. Serve up turkey A. Stuffings and potatoes. Thanks for hanging out with this. Follow on Spotfire Apple. Listen to ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcast.
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