Will Cain Country - Don’t Get Your Hopes Up On The End Of The Biden Crime Family – ‘Off The Rails’ w/ Will & Pete

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

Story #1: Will and his FOX & Friends Weekend co-host Pete Hegseth discuss if Tony Bobulinski's testimony could finally take down the Biden crime family. Plus, the $454 million dollar bond for form...er President Donald Trump is due next Monday. How will it play out? Story #2: Stories of hope and despair on free speech and an actual bloodbath. Story #3: Will and the crew discuss rules for men sent in by you, the audience.   Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com   Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show!   Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:39 And should you wave to other men? You should drink more water. Off the rails with Pete Higgseth. Two, stories of hope and despair on free speech and a bloodbath. And three, you, the viewer, the listener of the Will Kane Show on rules for men it is the will cane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the fox news youtube channel the fox news facebook page and always on demand in audio format at apple spotify or at fox news podcast just hit subscribe or you can watch the will cane podcast whenever and
Starting point is 00:01:19 wherever you like on youtube by subscribing to the will cane show right now in the description underneath this live stream is a link to the will cane show just hit subscribe and you You can tune in to, for example, exclusive interviews like yesterday's interview with the host of Jesse Waters. Primetime Jesse Waters. Today we've got a big show. There is testimony before Capitol Hill today by Tony Bob Polinsky and other business associates of Hunter Biden on the links, the truth, the depths of the Biden crime family. And how will Donald Trump come up with $450 million for the state of New York? We're going to break all of that down, plus working the land with my friend the farmer, Pete Hegg says.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So let us start with story number one. He is my co-host on Fox & Friends Weekend. He is my co-host on Off the Wall, Off the Grid, and this segment here on the Will Cain Show, Off the Rail. He's Pete Higgseth. What's up, Pete? You're on spring break? You're busy with the kids. your work in the land?
Starting point is 00:02:31 I got, yes, so I have kids on spring break, right? We got a blended family. So some are in school, some are out right now. I got my three boys. And I'm trying to raise them to, first of all, clearing the land is so satisfying, Will. Clearing brush is really, George W. Bush was right. It's extremely satisfying. You know that.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Now, for a 13-year-old, 10-year-old and 8-year-old, they think it's torture. But what they've begun to realize after three days of two-hour sessions, and this is only two-hour sessions, Will, this is not like an eight-hour day. You know, I could work them that way. Instead, I'm just doing two hours a day. I mean, just griping on day one, pretty inefficient on day two. Today, they weren't in any better mood or attitude, but they worked. And they wanted to get it done. And we got it done. And I'm telling you, the amount of land that we have cleared, and manual labor, I'm talking machetes, axes. Yeah, I got a chainsaw in there doing some stuff. But it's big stuff, small stuff, green stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:28 old stuff ripping it out and that's what i figured it out why am i going bowling with the kids why am i you know just playing basketball one-on-one why am i not taking the time in spring break to work up like this is their satisfaction in work they've they've started to want to work early in the day so that it can be over and so they can be done with it and get it out of the way that's the whole point so i'm loving it they're not but it's the best so we're going to get to in just a moment with the fact that Tony Bob Balinski has been testifying this morning before Congress and the effect I could have on the long-term investigation into the Biden crime family. But on working the land, you know, I just got done with the first of my physical challenges for 2024. I just got done
Starting point is 00:04:12 with a rowing competition, 5,000 meters on a concept two rower. I'll update you a little bit later in the Wilcane show on my performance. But rowing is, it's difficult exercise. It's lower back, its legs. And I've done things throughout my life athletically that have challenged me physically. But the most challenging thing I've ever done physically, I would say, where I laid in bed at the end of the day, really feeling incapable of movement was the year I spent working on a ranch in Montana. And we did different jobs. You know, I packed mules into the mountains. I played cowboy. I stretched barbed wire. I dug fence post holes. But the hardest thing I ever did was bucking bales of hay. So when you hay a field, you know, we would make like
Starting point is 00:05:03 80 pounds square bales, not the huge gigantic round bales you see when you drive along the highway. But just 80 pound or so square bales, and then you stack it in the barn for winter. But you have to get it from the field on the ground into a trailer, and then you got to get it off the trailer into the barn. And for us, pretty small operation, that meant manual labor. that's picking them up by the strings by the bailing wire lifting it into the trailer stacking it on top of one another onto the trailer then doing the opposite to get it back into the barn and man heggseth i mean lower back and this is when i was 25 lower back but not just all the normal like blue collar manual labor muscles the ones you don't realize that are part of your body like my but my fingers like grabbing those wires you wore gloves but still i mean like the muscles in your hands your fingers i laid in bed at night man and i couldn't uncurl my hands that's the best feeling in the world and and you know you're you're we're sitting here telling stories about that right not about
Starting point is 00:06:13 like when you sat and watched tv or played video games that's why that's why i play cowboy will i figured you would appreciate this that's why i play and my dad was out there yesterday he's 70 he was wearing a hat and he goes son i've never worn a cowboy hat but it works when you're clearing brush because it keeps the branches out of your head. It's got a lot of functions. And it does, and I wore it all day, and it's delightful. And you're right, every muscle in my body hurts. They've been sleeping in because they're exhausted. And they're going to tell stories about that week that they had to clear brush with their dad, something they didn't want to do all the way along the driveway to clear it out, when they would never have told
Starting point is 00:06:47 stories about how much Madden they played. And that's kind of what I'm going for, you know? A few more quick points before we move on to Bob Blinsky. I would normally, normally never endorse a chocolate colored cowboy hat like you just auditioned here for the show. But I do notice you've got a nice layer of, I don't know if that's wood dust or hay on the top. So you've been putting it to work. I just came out of the field 14 minutes ago. So I'm sweaty. I'm stinky.
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's great. I love the story angle of what you're talking about as well. One of my very, very good friends in life, sometimes on vacation or all the times on vacation. I make my boys work out. Like, I get them up, and, you know, they fashion themselves with ambitions and soccer. So, like, I get them up 7, 7 a.m., 7.30, you know, not the crack of dawn. And I'd make them go to the beach. And I'd make them, you know, do frog jumps and, you know, tuck jumps and stuff in the sand on the beach.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's great for you. And my friend said, look, the thing is, when they're in their 20s and they're sitting around having a beer together with their friends, these are the stories are going to tell. Can you believe Dad made us do this? To your point, not that amazing game they had on FIFA or Madden. Totally. Totally. And the griping. And so character development. You and I both talk about all the time on the show. We have no idea. There's no manual for being a father. I just know that hard work is good and building memories is important. And we have this whole playground outdoors. Let's make the use of it. And sweat while we do it. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'm totally jealous of the Heggseth Ranch. Let's move to the news of the day, the news of the moment, and that is Tony Bob Balinski, former business associate of Hunter Biden, is testifying before Congress. So far today, he came out of the gates with guns blazing, accused Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden and Hunter Biden of both perjuring themselves in front of Congress. There was a statement by James Comer, the Republican congressman leading up the Oversight Committee that I thought was fascinating, Pete. he said he asked this question which i think is a fascinating question for anyone listening or watching to ask themselves outside of when joe biden has been in government and including his family
Starting point is 00:09:04 what do the biden's do for a living answer that question explain that to someone how do they make money what do they do for a living he said the bidens do not work any traditional sense of the word they do not work as consultants or lawyers or advisors the bidens don't sell a product or service or set of skills. The Biden's cell Joe Biden. The scam is simple. The Biden family promises they can make foreign partners problems go away by engaging the U.S. government. Pete. You're correct. Their family business is influence peddling. But your sort of opening question was, will this Tony Babelinski testimony be a final crack in the dam or actually? The answer to that is no. Answer that is definitively no. The answer is so far none of this has mattered. And I was fiddling with my
Starting point is 00:09:54 remote while you were talking because I'm, you know, on YouTube TV, you can watch all the different channels and I've kind of been watching throughout. They're not covering it. The mainstream press is dismissing this. Hunter Biden is not there. Tony Bob Balinski is someone they've already disregarded, even though he's exceedingly credible. So one of them's talking about Texas immigration law and the other one's talking about 2020 to an Arizona and votes. Like they're not covering it. So He's credible. James Comer is right. Every step of this, the way they've tried to uncover the influence peddling, the criminal influence peddling, that is the Biden name.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Evidence has been shown, the press, the mainstream press doesn't care, and they won't care. And they actually think they're winning on the impeachment front when it comes to Joe Biden. You saw Biden's lawyers write that letter to Comer and others saying, stop, it's over. You're not, there's nothing to see here with Joe and the family. So they think they have what what, what's, what Jim Biden said from the beginning, what Tony Bob Balinski said from the beginning, which is plausible deniability. And they have said, I don't know. And we can't remember. And I was on drugs. And all of that has been used to explain away what is quite obviously a political criminal syndicate, but they're going to get away with it. I think, at least up until the election. And you're right. What they, what it feels like has happened to this. this story is similar to what the left accuses the Donald Trump lawfare strategy of having
Starting point is 00:11:24 been, which is to run out the clock, to drag it out past an election. But there's also another sort of finish line in dragging something out, and that is the loss of public attention. And this feels like the story has moved into the incremental stage, and for the casual viewer or listener, you know, you know, you know I've talked about this, even for someone who's not a casual listener or viewer, someone who even covers the news. There are certain stories that reach a point where it's hard to keep up with every little incremental development. And for me, that was the case with the war in Afghanistan. It was hard over the years to keep up with everything that happened or wasn't happening in Afghanistan. And quite honestly, it's hard for the casual viewer to
Starting point is 00:12:05 understand the ins and the outs and incremental changes in, you know, the war in Israel. And this has sort of reached that moment where it's like the ball, if at all, it's getting advanced is getting advanced in incremental ways that are imperceptible to the casual news listener. I think that's an important point. It's just like Russian collusion. Remember when that was being unraveled and we were starting to get a sense of what was being done behind the scenes, the left just started just say, man, the rights talking about the fact this isn't true, but we know Trump's a Russian agent. And so the narrative started to get sort of baked in, even though three years later, everybody knows it was all bunk.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I think this could move in the other direction where even though they're making incremental progress to your point, three yards in a cloud of dust, it isn't enough to change the baked in perception that most people have. Sure, the Bidens were kind of shady, but, you know, they're better than Trump. And so they made a few bucks and Hunter, we feel bad for them. And so let's let it happen at the ballot box. Yeah, I salute the attempts of the House Republicans. I think they should continue, but I don't know that it changes anyone perception of the Biden's at this point, unless they find something so staggering, the mainstream press has to admit it. And that's what Bob Olensky's testimony should be, frankly, but it hasn't been received that way. I would ask anybody listening or watching to try that question that I ask out to anyone who seems uninterested in this story.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Joe Biden and Jim Biden and Hunter Biden all live lifestyles and have net worth seemingly in the millions. And just answer one simple question, what do they do for a living? What is their business? Let's move to this. Pete Hegg said, last night at dinner with my two sons, we had a fun family dinner. You know, those kind of spring up out of nowhere where the conversation just flows and you get to know your kids and you get to know your wife. My youngest son who was 12 was talking about my older son who has had a long-term girlfriend. And he was preparing unnecessarily for life.
Starting point is 00:14:05 He was like, so are you going to marry her and will she get along with my potential wife? and you know I didn't think about wives at all at 12 much less 16 and he said my youngest son said well you guys have to tell me if whoever I am with doesn't vibe with the family if you guys don't like her you have to tell me and I said which I appreciated I love that he was placing family and the potential for us to all hang out together in the future at such a high priority but I said to him hey West no one's going to tell you man not us not your buddies you know it doesn't matter how many red flags are out there, unless it's just a complete toxic relationship where you're, like, fighting in front of others, it's, it's, you are, the batting
Starting point is 00:14:50 average of your friends or family that try to tell you you might be making a mistake is below the Mendoza line. Like, it is, you bat maybe 150. And what happens is, you actually lose the relationship with your friend or your family member. You don't break up the, the bad relationship. So as a result, no one tells you, they may try to drop a hint, but no one tells you you're making a mistake in marriage. Your assessment is correct. What happens between West and that is also puberty and emotions and investment and I'm in love and no one else has been as in love as I am. And this is something people do not understand the depth of this relationship. We've all been there. It clouds all of the judgment. She's the best thing ever, and this is the
Starting point is 00:15:36 purest and most amazing thing that will stay true forever. And if you walked in the middle of that, you don't understand. Yeah, it's all coming. And I don't have any kid that's at that place yet. So those are kind of fun future conversations to think about having. But yeah, I think I've tried a couple of times to hint that or to have that direct conversation. And you're right, it's only gone completely sideways. I'd like to think, though, Will, I'd like to think to his point that with my own kids,
Starting point is 00:16:06 I will be that blunt. I will, no, no, I'm, I'm, we'll see. But if there's one of them absolutely sideways with just the, there's two or three categories that are no-go land, then I will intervene. I don't know if that'll go well.
Starting point is 00:16:23 There's sort of a viral conversation going around Pete right now, what the right age for a man is, and there's no right age, but the ideal age, the optimum age to commit is, like, when are you ready for, you could do this two ways, like, is it, you know, 25, is it 28, is it six months into a relationship, is it one year into a relationship? Like, when is it time to go ahead and commit or get off the pot? I have not been a privy to that debate. I think I obviously wasn't ready to, I obviously thought I was more ready to commit than I was.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I think we let, I don't mean to get serious on you, but I actually, this is one of the things I think about a lot with my own kids and their own Christian faith and the seriousness and fidelity with which I want them to take their future partner and view their responsibility and obligation to them, which I think is something that eroded quickly for a long time and then led to a lot of people feeling love. and then love feelings are very fleeting and then things don't go the way that they should. And so I do think having a deeply baked in Christian ethos is really helpful if you want young men to commit earlier, which I think men should be willing to commit earlier. I think men waiting to the 35 and finding themselves and then deciding to settle. If that's your thing, fine. I'm not here to criticize everybody. I just think society's healthier when younger people can find each other and build young, robust, strong families. So I'd like to think that's the case.
Starting point is 00:17:52 but if you don't know it yourself and you don't know those things and you're committing then committing too soon is probably not a good thing so I don't have a great answer and as with most things I broke every rule and now I'm trying to reverse engineer it with my own kids by infusing them things that I want them to believe early as they possibly. Hey you learn through failure back to the back to the real quick on the telling someone that they're making a mistake debate. The thing is, like, I think we all have a little bit of experience in this. We have a friend or we have a family member, and I've seen it go bad, and it always goes bad
Starting point is 00:18:32 for the friend or the family member that tries to help. But I do know guys on the other side of it. I do know guys who, you know, they went through it, and then it, in retrospect, clearly was a mistake, and then they say things like, I wish you would have told me, or I wish you would have been more, you know, adamant or more clear about the red flags. but the bottom line truth is you wouldn't have heard me then you just simply wouldn't have heard me it would be like talking to a brick wall i i think you're i'm agreeing with you but i think with some friends dropping certain things at certain times is maybe okay as long as they're
Starting point is 00:19:09 not daggers to his pride about like you know her looks or whatever it is they've got to be something like hey you understand when she does this that's a little bit of a sign be careful be on the lookout and again with my kids i'm going to test your theory and i'll report back to you in five years or whatever it is but i don't think like a teenage girlfriend is warning zone land you know it's more like once they get older and they're thinking about who i want to marry that's when you got to throw the red flags out there oh no and then just to be clear in case anyone this makes it around my personal circles this is all abstract and hypothetical my oldest son's girlfriend is wonderful this is about marriage now i love it we're in that land what if
Starting point is 00:19:54 the girlfriend's parents are watching the will cane show and are very offended this you're already having a tiptoe no i love it this is all a hypothetical about about marriage okay speaking of pride let's move to this monday is the deadline for donald trump to meet a 450 million dollar bond to the state of new york and attorney general letitia james it's an incredible amount of money and there has been some, like Congressman Ted Liu, who said Donald Trump claims be worth billions. How can he not come up with 454 million? To that, many are like, why does every Democrat seem to not understand business? Even Mark Cuban said, hey, man, just because you're a billionaire, doesn't mean you're liquid to the tune of 454 million. Kevin O'Leary, Pete, from Shark Tank,
Starting point is 00:20:41 Mark Cuban's co-host, was on outnumbered yesterday. And here's what he had to say about this judgment. I don't think it's the case about Trump at all anymore. I think people should be thinking about the policy being put in place here. The competitiveness of New York State versus other U.S. states. But more importantly, the message about the American brand, you think about America, the reason this is the number one economy on Earth is that we have laws and we have due process and we have property rights. It attracts foreign capital from all around the world.
Starting point is 00:21:13 All of that is being shaken to the core here. So, Pete, obviously the implications are bigger than simply for Trump. The options seem to be as follows. He can raise money from supporters, which reports are he's not interested in doing that. He's not sort of interested in hat-in-hand donations. He can be declare bankruptcy. That seems to be a point of personal pride that he never has personally. declared bankruptcy, so that doesn't seem like a real option.
Starting point is 00:21:51 C, you can do nothing, and the state of New York can take over properties. There's reports about 40 Wall Street being a building they could take over, but I don't think the state of New York wants to run one of his properties. And if they try to make a fire sale, you know, and sell it, I mean, A, that's not done very quickly, and B, they would weigh undersell it. You know they would way undersell it. The options are really not very good. for Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, this is actually Wade. I've actually thought about this a lot, and it's really bad. By the way, I don't agree with Kevin. I like him a lot. This is not about the business environment. He said that in a lot of shows in a lot of different ways, which I respect the point. But this is about Donald Trump, okay? Joe businessman is not going to get this treatment in New York City.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Now, someone like Trump in the future, maybe I get the idea of an equal scales. And that is, but this is a Trump, you know, economic assassination attempt that Leticia James is trying to make. She wants this man out of New York City, this man embarrassed, this man put in a place where he can't come up with the cash. All of that is true about a billionaire and liquid assets of property. There's no doubt about that. I think Trump should challenge this, basically, I don't know where this is. And you know the levels of challenge. What about the Eighth Amendment, sort of imposing excessive bail, excessive fines?
Starting point is 00:23:14 I feel like he's got a damn good case there on the Eighth Amendment to say $500 million, what, because I'm a flight, what's the bail here on that is excessive and fight it in that direction? I don't know what he does. He was not going to ask supporters, you're exactly right, although I've had people reach out to me over email elsewhere saying, how do I donate to Donald Trump, which is an amazing view of how people feel about this. He's been willing time and time again to go to the courtroom to say, hey, I'll go to court because I'm fighting on behalf of you, and that has resonated for him inside the primary and in his poll numbers. It's a whole other thing to say, they're taking my assets, and I'm doing that for you. They're taking Trump Tower. They're taking my golf course, and they're fire-sailing them at a tenth of their value. Like, this is a guy who is a businessman in his heart, who has pride in that business, who has sons who will take over that business, and believes,
Starting point is 00:24:11 should live in a country where that's possible to do, this to me is going to get really gnarly. I don't know what it's going to look like. And the fact that you can't find an insurer willing to underwrite it because of the real estate portion of it, I don't know where it goes, but the left is going to love, love, love this. And they want to put a for sale sign on everything they can for Donald Trump if they can. The insurer and the real estate has a lot to do, by the way, with the economic environment right now in the rate, the high interest rates. People are just worried about commercial real estate.
Starting point is 00:24:44 But a couple of points. So Trump will certainly go to the courtroom. He will appeal. He may make an Eighth Amendment argument. He certainly, I think, has a good chance of winning, at least at the time it gets to the Supreme Court. But that takes time. And he has to satisfy this bond before any of that can take place,
Starting point is 00:25:03 which makes this so precarious come Monday. Come Monday, this has to be. resolved because the state of New York is not bending and and I will say this why would they why would they bend they got their guy in the cross hairs in their mind and and you're right both you and Kevin O'Leary are right okay so here's the thing O'Leary is right in that Trump is a little bit of the glass breaker so you know famously Donald Trump said they're not after me they're after you I'm just standing in the way and to some extent that's true so what has been done against Trump has been done against people who fall outside the bounds of acceptable group thinker ideology.
Starting point is 00:25:45 On much, much minor, more minor levels like, you know, free speech on social media as dictated by the government. That's been argued this week, by the way, in front of the Supreme Court. More on that coming up on the Will Kane show. The lack of due process for people involved in January 6th. There's a lot of ways in which, you know, this whole system of lawfare has been used against the little guy and not just Donald Trump. And it's not hard to envision a future in New York, where if you have the wrong politics, the wrong advocacy, you fall outside of acceptable ideology and group think that you could also suffer economically through real estate or lawfare in the same way that's been done with Donald Trump. It requires a leap, but I don't
Starting point is 00:26:25 think it's a huge leap. But you're also right that this is a personal vendetta, all of it, against one man and she said when she ran that she would go after Donald Trump so yes it is about Donald Trump but it's not a great leap to think it could soon be more than Donald Trump and about America last thing I'd say on this on this bond let's say he does nothing okay he does nothing and that allows the state of New York to to to take a building whatever that building may be 40 wall street Trump Tower okay then they've got to do something with that building and and they need to satisfy their money. So do they sell it? What do they do? I think there is, and who knows what the value of public relations is at that point, that's ugly. Like you just described, taking someone's
Starting point is 00:27:12 property like that, fire selling it for a tenth of the value, I'm telling you once again, not everything is politics. That's serious hickey on his personal net worth and so forth. But that's ugly, ugly politics. It gets really obvious and even more obvious ways to the casual American. You're exactly right. It's really ugly. It could be like a Mar-a-Lago raid type moment on steroids, not just amongst the Republican base, but amongst people that say, really, really? And it, but at what point does helping him in the polls, I mean, that trade-off becomes impossible. And I think he fights it more based on what his viable business interests are in the future vis-a-vis. Is this going to, I mean, this is now, we're now talking about his own personal.
Starting point is 00:27:58 wealth. This is a personal thing. I mean, you'll do everything you can to fight it. There's no doubt. But if it comes to that, I don't think we know what that looks like. Can you imagine? Like Leticia James is showing up at Trump Tower saying, this is ours now, get all your stuff out, that we, a former president, uncharted, no idea. All right, another dinner time conversation last night where you came up, Pete HECS. Yesterday here on the Will Cain show, Jesse Waters was on and he laid out some of his rules for men. We'll do more of that a little bit later on the hurricane show with your interaction from viewers. He's got a lot of rules for men.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And, you know, you have said to me on numerous occasions, a man should not wave. I think your specific rule is a man should not wave on television. I don't know if it extends to a man should not wave. So last night at the dinner table, we really broke this down, Pete. So the kids in the wife were like, yeah, well, you do kind of do this on TV sometimes. And, yeah, it's a little effeminate. So then we started, like, breaking it down. Okay, well, but does this mean you never wave?
Starting point is 00:29:04 You know, I mean, like, the wife said, well, you do this sometimes. And I'm like, is that bad? Is that worse or is that better? You know, what I'm doing for those listening on podcast format is I'm doing the whole closed finger clasp thing, you know, bending them down. And then there was a debate. No, no, no, no. You can.
Starting point is 00:29:24 But, like, dudes do things because they inherit. know that waving is a little effeminate. Like, they do things like just raise their hand, like, hey, sup. And then you don't, I've got my hand in the air and you don't move the hand. You don't do the twists or the turns in the hand. You just hold it up. Or guys do like two fingers up or one finger up, like, what's up, you know, as they raise their hand, like that. So what are the rules for waving?
Starting point is 00:29:49 So I will first say, as you went through this long explanation, I realize how foolish it is that hand waving is somehow. my alamo of personal pride considering all the things we do on fox and friends right like we do all these things that are meant to degrade us and make us look foolish and ridiculous but my stand my ground moment is waving on the show i guess i just i watched over the years on the show i've watched so many masculine men like in the green room or in teases the camera gets on them and they don't know what else to do and so they do the wave i'm not even going to do it on your i'm not even do it on your show because I don't wave but they they do a wave and they're like dude that dude should not be waving that was a navy seal that like killed like a lot of guy he should not
Starting point is 00:30:36 be waving that looks bad but now there's a camera in his face so he's going like this yeah don't don't do give a thumbs up give a salute you can give a point you know whatever you want a little fit I don't care just just don't wave I believe that you can wave to little kids okay it's nice to give a little I like to you know a sweet little girl or a boy you wave to him like margarita in the green room a little wave cute um maybe my wife comes on set cute but otherwise i don't i don't really waving someone down like i can see that that has a function what if you see somebody across the what's see somebody across the stadium or across the the bleachers at a game another dad like and you kind of like hey what's up
Starting point is 00:31:18 what do you do i think i do the station the stationary handrakes that's very different than your wave which is like he he he he that's of that you can't say howdy duty howdy duty a little howdy duty at shoulder level back and forth anymore but every once in a while I catch it it's just a small TV rule don't wave not good for men um you know who I like Hawaii has this figured out I think the shaka the hang loose is a great little greeting it's a great little hey what's up and but there's there's nuances to it you know okay pinky finger thumb out but like If you're in Hawaii a lot, you'll notice, like, local guys, it's very casual, like, meaning you don't, like, overextend it.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You don't, like, really get the fingers out there. It becomes a real, like, oh, he's doing it. It's, it's, it's, you can almost barely see it from the fist. And you certainly don't, you know, give it a, you know, the cartoonish twist of the wrist. You just do a little bit of, you just do a little, like, one hook. You just do, like, a little, like a fish hook. You just go, whack. Or you do nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:20 You just hold it out. I think Hawaii's got it. Every state should have a hand greeting. I love that. I like that. I just do it. I think I do this the most. What's up?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Peace? You know, yeah. You do peace? Mm-hmm. I don't do peace. I don't know. I don't like that. I don't like peace generally, but I do peace.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yes. It's such a terrible thing to say. Everybody likes peace. Okay, fine. I like peace. I like war. Brar. How's water going, by the way?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Hecksteth, by the way, he's been fighting a headache. I even allowed my kids to have a water bottle. He's been fighting a water bottle for two months. I even allowed my kids to each have one water bottle while doing work. Hydration is the key, Will, and you said it, and you were right. And I took away nicotine. I took away caffeine. I took away everything else.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And it didn't change until I added a lot of liquid. And then the dull headache went away. And it's a beautiful thing. It's hydration. I've been on the water now. I advised you, but like most things in life, I'm all talk. I wasn't really drinking a lot of water. And so then, like, I told you, hey, man, you need to drink water.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And so I started drinking water. And I chug, like, I wake up before I have coffee, I chug a glass of water. You know, I have my coffee, I have my breakfast, I have a zen. Then I chug another bottle of a glass of water. And I'm trying to, like, I'd say I'm probably getting a good five or six, you know, just cups, whatever those are, 16 ounces. and I don't drink them. See, here's my thing. I love ice water.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Like, love, love ice water. But I realize I'm always drinking ice water, and you don't really drink it. You sip ice water, and you only end up drinking half the cup. So now I'm just doing room temperature water, chugging it four or five times a day, in the bathroom a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:07 A lot of bathroom trips now. That's a big downside. I've evened the energy out. It's this more consistent energy. The water has led to more energy. the water? Yes, no doubt about it. No doubt about it. I've just thought about it in the context of sleep. Sleep has been better. I feel better in the morning. I've seen my energy level stay stronger without caffeine, which I'm still not doing because my wife drinks decaf, and so it's an easy
Starting point is 00:34:35 switch for me because she's already on it. And when I'm not going like this with the energy level just stays straight the whole day. I don't know. I love it. Maybe if I add even, I'm falling behind in the water. I believe in you, but I'm not doing the six cups a day consistently like you. I'm grabbing a vitamin water more often than I otherwise would or drinking water more often than I otherwise would, but I'm not a regimen. We've got to get on it. Next, there are rumors about Donald Trump's cabinet, Pete, who that could be. There are talk about this is according to Fox News. It was on Fox and Friends of Vivek Graham-Swamy, potentially DHS. Interesting names for Attorney General. Mike Lee, Senator from Utah, Ted Cruz.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Senator from Texas. I think Ted Cruz, you know, I think he would actually be a perfect Attorney General. Oh, go. Go. Inside that cabinet, go. Just pick up every hard charge and knife fighter, America first, non-com uncompromising, principled, smart fighter, and just unleash them. Like, because in the first term, what you had was a political novice in Donald Trump, picking people that kind of looked the position, and and but but their their compass on his agenda was unclear we know where people's compasses are now he knows that he wants that and after what he's gone through they're about to seize his building okay pick a secretary of education that's going to help abolish the department of education pick a you know head of the DOJ who will actually you know enforce the law we believe it
Starting point is 00:36:11 should be enforced yes so yes all the way and amen this people don't vote based on on the cabinet. But I think your energy level and your excitement amongst conservatives in the base is going to be galvanized by a clear set of this is where we're going. This is where we're going to bat when we get a chance. I was heartened to see those reports. It's wonderful. It's a little ahead of ourselves at this point. We're dealing with 454 million dollar bond and other pending cases and the stuff we've already talked about. But it's motivating to think about what that could look like. I agree with you. People don't vote on the cabinet. I will say, any friends that are moderate conservatives or country club republicans i'm not saying that disparagingly but
Starting point is 00:36:51 this is something they bring up all the time like who's he going to be surrounded with what's the competency level of the people that will be executing the job but i think you're right we're ahead of ourselves and in you know in opposition to so many other things we talk about in the news we'll see with this tony babelinski testimony in front of congress this 454 million dollar bond seems like a real thing that is coming towards a day of reckoning. And that's a story that feels like it has an inflection point that will command all of our attention within just a couple of days. By the way, I'm glad to break it down with you today.
Starting point is 00:37:27 You were all over the bloodbath thing, which has been such a stupid cycle of their attempt to impugn. So for people inside our show, it was Will and the 830 hour that was like, yo, we got to do this more because this is coming, and I'm seeing this all over Twitter. So we did it at the top of nine and then it exploded for the next 48 hours, but good eye. They're still on it, HECF. We do. And they're still on it.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I was told that yesterday on, for example, the Today Show, which is, to me, the Today Show is the definition of the casual news viewer, right? They're still editing the clip and saying that he's calling for political violence, that he's calling for a bloodbath. It's still alive, this hoax. And so we will. as you point out we will be vigilant all right pete higgseth get back to work in the land man thanks for doing off the rails man chocolate hat let's do it see you peace have a great show go get it see you bud uh quick update i told you yesterday that i have committed to four physical challenges throughout 2024 i'm working on what the second will be but i just completed the
Starting point is 00:38:34 first it is it was nine weeks of train on a concept two rowing machine leading up to a 5,000 meter race. I completed that race on Monday morning. At the beginning of the training regimen, I averaged a two-minute and seven-second 500-meter pace. That put my 5,000 meters at roughly 21.5 minutes. I shaved two minutes off that time and 10 seconds off my 500 time. So I did a 157.9. my overall time was 19 minutes and 39 seconds so it's almost 20 minutes on the concept 2 rower
Starting point is 00:39:13 I would tell you a couple of quick points my hands are torn to pieces they're callous their blood blistered and my family is tired of hearing about rowing so on to the next physical challenge second rowing is incredible exercise love it full body workout I hate cardio I hate running I will do rowing any day like 20 minutes pretty much full tilt It's not a sprint by no means, but you're pushing your pace the whole time. I did like a 158 average over my thousands, 5-1,000s consecutively, slowest 159, fastest 156. Just to push yourself like that, which leads me to the third thing,
Starting point is 00:39:54 this was nine weeks. There was people from the United States, United Kingdom, Nicaragua, all over the U.S. And it's a community I've gotten over the last two years. I have several buddies in there. A lot of people I don't know. There's world record holders in rowing. There's normies like me. Competition is everything.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Competition is everything in life. Like if I worked out, I would have told myself, oh, yeah, that was a hard workout. Nah, there's another 20% that I don't even know I have that you only tap into because you're trying to beat your buddies because of competition. I loved it. I recommend the rowing machine. I recommend signing up physical challenges. I've got three more to go. I know one of them is going to be the Navy SEAL swim.
Starting point is 00:40:34 in August. But I certainly recommend competition. In the economy, in business, in life, and exercise. Compete. It's good. It's good for the soul. All right, you heard Pete bring it up. Bloodbath, a story of despair on a real advocation for bloodbath in America, but also a story of hope that there are Supreme Court justices that understand free speech. That's coming up next on the Will Cain Show. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Just kidding. It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com. Men should not drink out of straws, men should not eat soup, men should not lick ice cream cones. Those were some of the rules for men, according to our own Jesse Waters, right here yesterday on the Wilcane Show. What are your rules for men? That's coming up in just moments on the Wilcane Show. Streaming live at foxnews.com, the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page, and on demand by subscribing to the Wilcane Show. right underneath this video in the description is a button. Subscribe to the Will Cain Show on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:08 We have been all over here on this show, The Bloodbath Hoax, over the last several days. The implication is that Donald Trump is calling for political violence, that he is asking for another January 6th. We can acknowledge, and we should acknowledge, January 6th was a riot, but a shameful riot on our nation's capital, caused destruction and chaos.
Starting point is 00:42:31 January 6th was not an insurrection. It was not a concerted attempt to overthrow the government. It was not a violent day that led to the death of police officers. One person died, Ashley Babbitt, one of the writers that day. Those are the truths behind January 6th. And no one should advocate for political violence. It's my contention in a search for the truth. That's not what has been said when Donald Trump said the country should he lose, should expect a bloodbath. But I can give you an example in a bit of a moment of despair for America. I can give you an example of a politician openly advocating for what amounted to a bloodbath.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I give you, now Vice President Kamala Harris, in 2020, talking about riots across the country under the banner of BLM. Here she is on the Colbert Report. They're not going to stop. And this is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not going to stop. And everyone beware,
Starting point is 00:43:30 because they're not going to stop it is going to they're not going to stop before election day in November and they're not going to stop after election day and that should be everyone should take note of that on both levels that this isn't they're not going to let up and they should not Kamla Harris in her patented style of sounding like she's giving a book report on a book she has not read repeating the same phrase sentence or catches them over and over in only slightly different variations they're not going to stop got it she's talking about the riots where at least 25 people were killed across the country, billions, I think the numbers in trillions in property damage across the country. Businesses burned, police stations burned, cities
Starting point is 00:44:13 burned. By any traditional definition, this was a bloodbath. By the way, I think that number 25 is probably low when you do a full survey of people think that's an interaction between writers and law enforcement. That's between rioters. This was a bloodbath for the country, and here was somebody who is now vice president advocating for it not to stop. I don't think she was simply making a prediction. I mean, she was making a prediction, but I don't think she was simply making a prediction. She was heralding it as this fight for justice, and they won't stop and they won't stop underlying message because they're fighting for something worthwhile. And so, therefore, this fight is worthwhile.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Therefore, this bloodbath is something to be praised. that is a politician. That is a politician speaking admiringly about a bloodbath. On the other hand, yesterday we talked to you about a Supreme Court justice in Cantonji Brown Jackson who seems to have no conception or openly rejects the civilizational foundational foundational value of free speech and the enshrined right of the First Amendment. But I didn't want to leave you with just a negative view. I want to share with you a positive understanding as well. Justice Samuel Alito in cross-examining government lawyers talked about the first man in the United States and whether or not the government can deputize or make a social media company a subordinate in its goal to subvert the
Starting point is 00:45:38 First Amendment, a bridge free speech, and censor. Listen to Justice Samuel Alito. And so I thought, you know, the only reason why this is taking place is because the federal government has got Section 230 and antitrust in its pocket. And it's, to mix my metaphors, and it's got these big clubs available to it. And so it's treating Facebook and these other platforms like their subordinates. There you go. You can't deputize social media. You can't do it through the back door.
Starting point is 00:46:12 The First Amendment is the First Amendment. You can't harangue, email, yell at Facebook. You can't threaten then Twitter now X. But that's what the federal government seems to have done. Those were oral arguments for the states of Missouri and Louisiana sue over this censorship. We'll keep you updated on what the Supreme Court decides. But there's a bit of hope. It's not to be unexpected.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Alito, certainly Thomas. These are solid, sterling legal minds that sit on the Supreme Court. And they have the majority over the minds of Kintanji Brown Jackson. All right, coming up. Rules for Men. now contributed. If we're making a rulebook for men on shoulds and should nots, do's and don'ts, you have contributed your chapter. What can men do? What can men not do? That's coming up next on the Will Cain Show. Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring common ground.
Starting point is 00:47:13 In-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his all-star panel and much more. Available now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you Get your podcasts. Rules for men, don't drink out of a straw. Don't lick an ice cream cone. You're not allowed to have a best friend. That's according to Jesse Waters, who has a news bookout and joined us yesterday here on the Will Cain Show, streaming live at foxnews.com and on the Fox News, Facebook, and YouTube pages.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Jesse has an instinct. I'm going to give it to him. He doesn't need the compliments. His humility is hard to find. Jesse has an instinct. He has the ability to see it quickly. Like, no, that's not right. And he's pretty much, in my estimation, he might be batten a thousand.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Like, when he described the soup situation, which received a lot of pushback on social media, he's right. I don't want to see another man at the dinner table pursing his lips as he brings a spoon to his mouth. There's no way to drink out of a straw and look manly. And agreed, I don't know that licking an ice cream cone is effeminate, but I just don't want to see another man. It's like it's emasculating. It makes you a child licking an ice cream cone. So he has a gut for these things, does waters. So we thought we'd open it up to you as well, like, what are the rules for men?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Let's bring in the crew. Let's bring in Two A-A-D-A-S-Dan, Young Establishment, James, and a tinfoil pat. So the viewers and the listeners, Two-A-D-A-S, they've contributed some new rules or pushed back on the offered-up rules. They push back on both Just to go off the soup one So Stephanie Murray on X said Gumbo and Louisiana is perfectly fine For men to have
Starting point is 00:49:00 As a soup type thing I think that's fine It's manly You know And maybe chili I would throw in there Chili's fine Oh chili's not soup Well is it
Starting point is 00:49:10 So like No Chili's not soup And so this does not need clarification Okay fine fine All right so we have No need to even put an asterisk here Because I think it should be understood
Starting point is 00:49:20 that chili's not soup. And here's what I'd say about gumbo. And I think Jesse was on to this. The chewier, the more manly. The waterier, the less manly. And so gumbo has the rice in it, you know, so it gives you something to sink your teeth into as a man, you know, as you're eating it. You know, you're not slurping it. So, and that's why I think he was talking about the benefits of, like, a chowder with crackers in it, which I don't like. That's like a big bowl of cream to me. I don't like soup in general. I don't even like stew. Now, what I'll do is I'll pick out the meat and potatoes and eat it and leave the broth sitting there.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I just don't want water on my food. That's a weird thing to do. I'll just put that out there. But that's fine. To each his own. And just more manly. I agree. Apparently.
Starting point is 00:50:11 So moving on, we had someone put in. Brandon Supp from X. You forgot, mentioned never used an umbrella is a weird thing. I don't get this one. what imagine being so insecure in your masculinity that you couldn't use an umbrella when it's raining come like just get wet then what are you doing i saw this comment that young establishment james is offering up a man should be able to do whatever you want so man does what he's free to do a man shouldn't be insecure that's fine that's cool but but you're just not being honest you got to be
Starting point is 00:50:44 honest other men judge you when you walk around with a parasol that's the truth it's a little bit water, you're fine. I don't want to see you walking around with an umbrella and a parasol. Tell me the difference. You know, what's the difference? And you're walking around, and I get it. I don't like getting wet. In New York in particular, that's the worst weather there is. Snow, everything's better than rain in New York. Because you know what happens in New York? You get wet. And the rest of the world, you're making a quick dash to the car, you know, in and out of a building, quick dash to a car. In New York, you're walking in it and you're getting wet. And I get it. But, The umbrella? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:22 No. It's not manly. I have a 15-minute walk to Grand Central to and from work, and it is downpoured, and I've been soaking wet, and I was pissed that I forgot an umbrella, and I wish I had one, because I would rather look as stupid as possible than be drenched walking in New York City going to the train. Patrick, what do you think about this? Can I say the – hold, I get tin foil in here. Here's the thing about umbrellas. You never have it when you need it. It's a worthless accoutrement.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That's true. Now, there's good ones. the way, Weatherman Umbrella, Rick Reichmuse Company. Those are awesome umbrellas, by the way. Good, sturdy ones, you know what I'm talking about? They do feel more manly. They're sturdy. But this is why those guys in New York make so much money.
Starting point is 00:52:02 They clean up. The guys that pop up when it rains and sell the cheap umbrellas. Because you'll shell five real quick, right? To not be wet. I have. I have before. Because you never have an umbrella when you need it. So, worthless accruagement, tinfoil, Pat.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah, I am from Jacksonville. So I do not subscribe to the umbrella idea. It's in and out. You're not outside very long. You know, and you don't want to be out in a thunderstorm anyway, like you are here in the south. So especially with something like a lightning rod. What's unmanly about it? I don't get it like holding it like this, like with one hand.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, it's like you look at the 1900, early 1900 movies and the ladies carry them around. Dudes aren't carrying them around. It's just, I don't know. Fist, even as you pantomimed holding an umbrella, your fist looked effeminate. I saw that as I was doing it. Prim and probable. I was like, I should probably stop doing that right now. You held up that delicate pale fist that was holding a phantom umbrella handle.
Starting point is 00:53:11 No more miming. You're actively lost testosterone. No more miming on the show for me is what I'll go with. All right, so moving on. So you said, so Gabe Walker said this, men do whatever they want. That was a comment we got. Yeah. Men just do that.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Yeah, there's so simple. There you are, James. Makes sense. All right, we have a really good one here. This is a hill I will die on, which I agree with this next one. Scott Macon, I think is how you pronounce it. Never wear a jersey of a player that is younger than you. And I agree with this one completely.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I mean, I've generally been anti-Jerzy altogether. But, you know, as I've leaned into my fandom, especially, I mean, I'm being real here, especially my on-air fandom, I've thrown the DAC jersey on. Like, I did it on first take. I did it during the playoff run around the house. I know. I don't think I'd wear it to a game. I don't, I don't think I would. Have I gone, I might, I might have to take ownership of this one.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I don't think a grown man should wear another man's jersey with the name on it. I completely agree. We're the jersey without the name. That's fine. We're a cowboy's jersey. But the name just throws a weird element into it for me. Football jerseys are a difficult one because they're very personalized. So like, because they have the number.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I think hockey jerseys and baseball jerseys are probably the easiest ones to get away with because it's just the logo. And you don't need the number on the back necessarily. What about this? What about what do you call them the shirt jersey? The t-shirt jersey. A t-shirt with a number and a name on the back. No, that's just lazy. That's just lazy.
Starting point is 00:54:48 You're spending less money for doing the same thing. So no. Oh, I don't know. I thought it was a good... Maybe I'm a D-bag when it comes to jerseys. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, too, like, I'm starting to get to the age where a lot of the kids I played with or played against or getting called up, and I could never wear their jersey. Well, but it could exist.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Humble Brack. It's his George Kirby 9. No, I was actually going to go with Volpe this time, but that's okay. No, but so we're in a group of 20 kids, 10 guys. 10 girls, we're watching Kirby pitch, and some of the dudes are wearing Kirby jerseys. And it's just like, you're going to sit next to a girl and wear the jersey of someone that, like, you grew up. Like, what? I don't know. Now, listen, I don't know how good a friends you are with Kirby.
Starting point is 00:55:28 The whole show is a little suspect of this connection. But I don't know if you guys just went to school together or what's going on here. But if he was in your friend group, if he was in one of your five buddies that you hung with, I give you an exemption. You can wear his jersey. Like, you can go full support for your tight buddy. But if he was in high school at the same time as you and you guys talked three times, I don't want to hear more about George Kirby. Well, I played against Matt Harvey back in the day, and I'm not wearing a Matt Harvey jersey. Let's just throw it out there.
Starting point is 00:56:01 We had one more. We've got one. Yep. All right. So we have Irma is saying, pajamas, no for men. Okay. I've got some thoughts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I think Irma's on the right. track. Whenever you put on pajamas, the wife makes you put them on at Christmas, right? You can feel it. I feel less. My testosterone is dropping. I feel horrible. And you know it and I know it. But, and so I've never been a pajama guy, by the way. I mean, outside of when I was a kid and I had the, man, those were awesome. What were those called when we were kids? The ones where you had like a Yoda, you know, one or like a Superman one was there underwis? The onesies? You had underrews back then? Yeah, onesies. They weren't
Starting point is 00:56:49 onesies. You had bottoms and tops and they matched. I think anybody in my age would know I'm talking about underwes. I said wearing them. I'm awesome. But I do think sleepwear at the age of becoming a man is difficult. Like do you throw on just a pajama bottoms in the
Starting point is 00:57:07 winter? I mean, but then they all get caught up. And you can't wear a t-shirt because then when you twist and turn it gets all wrapped around you in the wrong ways and then like I think sleepware has not been solved I need good input on sleepware but then it comes full
Starting point is 00:57:23 circle when you get older as a man older men wear those pajamas and then it's acceptable I think once you hit like maybe you know 65 I think you start wearing those like yeah the Tony Sopranal ones or the Tony Soprano look you know that's type of thing
Starting point is 00:57:38 so I think it comes around back again I can wear that around the neighborhood I think you go back to, you go back to like older movies and stuff. You see like the sleepwear, you know, the men getting up and they throw on the robe. And they, you know, I think that is probably what men should kind of go for. I mean, yeah, what did you say to me, two of days? I couldn't hear it. I think you said something to me. No, I said, all right, Carrie Grant.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Oh, Gary Graham. That's what tinfoil. Tinfoil does, I mean, I don't know the exact moment in time at which you would like to rewind the clock. It could be the 1950s, but I'm not sure when America was at its apex. That's for a future show. Here's the quick explosive pre-show debate, which I want to include you, the listener and the viewer, the Will Kane show in on. Should a man wear boat shoes and loafers? Now, I think there's some regional variety in this going on, some gym.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Geographic disparity. And I have a hard line. I don't like boat shoes. And I think they look no bueno when a grown man wears boat shoes. But I also don't like loafers. And I definitely don't like loafers with any metal on the top of them, no bars or hoops or anything like that. And I don't want to, A, I don't like the preppy look.
Starting point is 00:59:05 And B, I don't want to see the tops of your feet. I don't want to see pale, vainy, skeletal, feet. I don't want to see it. And I think that flip-flops are a different category of acceptability, but the loafer and the boat shoe, not manly. Yeah, see, this is, I think, one of your worst takes, sorry. You know, I respect you a lot, and you're a very smart guy. But I think me and James here, we grew up in the Northeast. You wear boat shoes. I actually boat. I actually sail, and I use practical ones. You can slip them on at any time. I actually need them. They're practical.
Starting point is 00:59:42 You could wear them to work. Okay, Commodore. Maybe I do wear them with a suit sometimes. Who cares? I don't know. You could wear them to the deli. But they are necessary. You could wear them taking out the trash. Yes, exactly. Whenever you just slip them on. They're really versatile. Throw on some sparries. Shout out sparries. And yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:59:59 me and James are just in the outs with this one with you guys. So young James, young establishment James, to be clear, is very Westchester. Like it does surprise me that he would throw on some boat shoes or some loafers
Starting point is 01:00:15 in Z like it fits right in like James is who everybody said Duke lacrosse players were you know but you two a days you're over there with the hoodie and the jean jacket like you look like you're in a garage band
Starting point is 01:00:34 on your off time and you might be and I think you have some tats and you look like a converse guy, like a Chuck Taylor converse type guy. If you popped up to me with some pastel short shorts on and some bochos, it would be extremely disturbing. It would be extremely disturbing. Well, there's two sides of me, right? There's country club to Dan on the weekends, right? So that's where I go. In the same town, actually, that James grew up in is where I go to a club. So that's one side of me. And then, yes, there is the musician's side of me. So I can be versatile in those two
Starting point is 01:01:10 different ways and still exist in the same world and Patrick you're anti flip-flop 100% I hate the well look there are exceptions you're going to the beach you're you're in a public shower like at the gym you know that's probably pretty much it you're at a pool and you know you have that long walk and you don't want to burn the bottom of your feet but like other than that I hate when they pair them with jeans you know Any of that, just totally trash look. So this is another one like the jersey that I'm going to own. I think you have a point, Patrick.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I do. I saw a guy yesterday wearing flip-flops with skinny jeans, and I thought, bad look. Bad look. But if I'm being honest, I've offended. Not the skinny gene part, but I've offended. I've done flip-flops and jeans before. I like the flip-flop. Hegsa's a big flip-flopping gene type guy.
Starting point is 01:02:08 He's a big flip-flop guy. but I think you introduce a legitimate point, but it's one for debate, not like the loafer or the boat shoe. I think I'm a clear winner on that. All right, that's going to do it for me today. We've got our rulebook running here on rules for men added to Jesse Waters Cannon, and we'll work out what men should and should not do. You can jump into Will Kane Show or Wilcane X feed. Let us know what you think or comment on Instagram. See Will Kane or Will Kane Show. Until then, I'll see you again right here tomorrow at Fox News.com.
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