Will Cain Country - Dr. Marc Siegel: The Debate Over Rising ADHD & Autism Diagnoses. PLUS, Cain Defends Secretary Hegseth!

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

Story #1 & 3: Will's 8 big stories of the day: From the passing of Pope Francis, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth coming under fire, Katy Perry's anticlimactic trip to space, to what the fellas have been watching lately. Plus, why do Democrats dislike their most moderate members? Story #2: Will is joined by Fox News Senior Medical Analyst Dr. Marc Siegel, for a conversation on the rise of autism and ADHD diagnoses, the best diet recommendations, and some of the pushback Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has faced.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hope you've been time with family and with God in reflection and with. prayer. Let's get caught up today together with eight stories. That's right, eight stories at the top of the news, including being joined by Dr. Mark Siegel, who's going to address the measles outbreak, ADHD medication, the push by RFK, and whether or not we should be all, jumping into a cold plunge. Let's get to it all, though, with story number one. It's bringing the boys in New York. We got two days, Dan, young establishment, James. We also have the breaking news, as of yesterday, late last night, of the passing of Pope Francis. Pope Francis passes away at the age of 88, the first pontiff from the Americas.

Pope Francis from Argentina was the people's pope. In Argentina, he made his name going into the slums, interacting with the poor. He took a vow of poverty like all Jesuits. And he has seen in many circles as a politically controversial Pope. He often aligned himself with causes endeared to the left, would not that be climate change or gay marriage. Of the next 15 days, he will be remembered. There will be a state funeral.

Within the next 10 to 20 days, there will be a conclave, and the next pope will be selected. There is a list out already today of the eight most likely candidates to follow Pope Francis. Fascinatingly, they range from those who are very much like Pope Francis, open to some of the new social causes of our day, to those that are extremely conservative, not wanting to, or not believing you should give the sacrament to individuals who are divorced or remarried. Cardinal Burke, I believe, from Wisconsin is one of the few Americans on this list put out by the Daily Mirror of the top eight most likely candidates,

a couple of Italians. One cardinal from Africa, which I believe is one of the largest growing populations of Catholics in the world. Important day in the world. Not growing up a Catholic, I have a lot to learn about Catholicism. It's a work in progress for me. It's fascinating the world and the divide within Christianity

of what you grow up with understanding and what you do not. But this was, as a Protestant, not something that I actually understood or paid much attention to until I reached the age of an adult. Two days, you grew up Catholic, the Pope a big figure in your life? Yeah, very much so. I taught CCD at Catholic Church. My mom, big Catholic, and, you know, it's just something that you talk about. He's the main, the central figure of your faith as a Catholic person.

It's a big deal, and the decisions they make are a big deal. yeah and of course that's exactly right the church follows many of his much of his direction so it'll be fascinating to see which direction the church chooses to go could it lean into the growing population of catholics across the world and select the pope from africa african cardinals often very conservative uh not part of sort of the new social justice movement among not just catholics but across the world or will they continue to go in the direction of pope francis and select the pope who is very open to gay marriage eager to address issues like climate change but that's all a debate for a little bit later in this period in 10 to 15 days as they gather in a conclave but for the next couple of days

there will be members of pope francis story two we missed this last week we didn't address this It didn't seem like a story of paramount importance. But the Jeff Bezos flight into space, quotation marks, into space, completely staffed by women. It included people like Gail King, Oprah's BFF, a host of CBS this morning, and Katie Perry. It's interesting the backlash that has followed this what many are calling publicity stunt. It wasn't even enough to gain my attention last week. They went into low, they went into low space. Low atmosphere.

Yeah. See, look down on Earth. Low atmosphere, bird's eye view of the Earth. Many are pointing out, though, these are not astronauts. This is not one great step forward for feminism. Scientists. I was reading an article this morning, and it was fascinating how much of the hatred falls on Katie Perry. I didn't realize because I'm just not plugged into pop culture well enough

that she is an extremely divisive figure on not just the right but on the left and Katie Perry's fall from grace has been somewhat paramount she hasn't had a hit in years she's saying apparently what a wonderful world to the rest of the female what do we call these space voyagers space voyagers

pioneers people who took a flight but the article suggested this is how far we've fallen with feminism that it's been reduced to a publicity stunt and its emblem has become Katie Perry. I didn't know, fellas, that there was so much hatred for Katie Perry. Yeah, she's a bit on the woker side, as they say. People think, you know, the American Idol thing, although I missed her on American Idol, unfortunately, I would have liked to have her as my judge, just saying. But yeah, she's a controversial figure. She's a little woke on the side. You know, know. But yeah, it came off a little, a little poorly, I guess you could say, when so many things are going

around in the world and they're taking it right up into space for what was like $11 million per minute. An expensive joyride. One small step for woman, one giant leap for womankind. Big moment in feminism, the space trip of Blue Origin. three new yale youth poll suggests that the democratic party while extremely unpopular could be headed more deeply for unpopularity this is a poll put together online by yale university it mainly surveys young people under the age of 30 let's sit the backdrop of this poll there's a gallop poll out that shows the

democratic party's popularity approval rating favorability has dropped to 25 That's a huge drop from what was its previous low of 34%. Only one in four Americans approve of the current status of the Democrat Party. But when you look at what is wanted by the youth, who is wanted by the youth, it doesn't seem like they're moving in a direction that would embrace moderation. Alexander Dandria Cortez, Ocasio-Cortez is one of the more popular candidates coming second to Kamala Harris. Both candidates, which lead the third place Pete Buttigieg, index much better among under 30 than the overall voters within Democrats. But there are only two candidates that came in with net negative favorability. Those two candidates were Pennsylvania Senator John Federman, who had the least popular favorability rating of negative 17.2% and Stephen A. Smith with a net negative favorability of 16.9%. Now, Stephen A. Smith and John Fetterman would be seen, I think, as more moderate wings

of the Democrat Party. I think they both would bill themselves, if not as centrist as moderates and certainly as reasonable. Fetterman, of course, is famous for being pro-Israel. He's pro-immigration enforcement. These are things very out of step with the current status of the Democrat Party. Certainly among younger voters, the same Yale youth poll shows that they over-index on almost all of the issues that have proven to be losers for Democrats. President Donald Trump, by the way, has a favorability rating of 45% according to Gallup. That is higher than the first quarter of his president.

presidency in 2016, where he stood at 41 percent. And a significant plurality of Americans approve of deporting all illegal immigrants. So the issues where the young Democrats want to push their party is into deeper unpopularity. I cannot believe that, and the time is ticking away the clock is clicking down that within what 18 months and certainly within two years you will have a new leader for Democrats and that new leader will be running for president and it will be shocking if it is one of the three names that lead that list if it is Alexandria Ocasio Cortez Pete Buttigieg or Kamala Harris it seems it would be an absolute loser for Democrats Now, on the other side, according to this Yale youth poll, the second most popular figure within the Republican Party is J.D. Vance.

And among Republican voters, he has a net favorability of plus 30, very popular. But as we have talked about here, among young people and the broader electorate, it's still uncertain J.D. Vance has a favorability or popularity that would translate into a general election. meaning if you were a sane Democrat, you would think there could be an opportunity. I'm just analyzing. I'm not cheerleading. I'm actually a huge fan of Vice President J.D. Vance. But you have to analyze someone's strengths and their weaknesses. And if you're a Democrat, I think you would have to come away from some of this polling and say, there's a chance.

There's an opportunity. As we sit today, J.D. Vance is not Donald Trump. I don't think there's a Democrat on the planet that could beat Donald Trump but if you're on the left you would have to think if we come up with a reasonable Democrat there's a chance you could beat

J.D. Vance. Now, they show no indication of moving into a direction of finding, not selecting, but even finding a reasonable Democrat to compete against Vance. I do not think that answer is Stephen A. Smith or John Federman.

But I do not think the answer the answer is to move into the direction of AOC, Pete Buttigieg, or Kamala Harris. And their problem clearly then is that person does not exist or that person remains in the woods. That person has not yet been learned, is not known. It's possible that in 2008, J.D. Vance can win the presidency almost by default. at this rate he could win the presidency by default because there simply is no sane reasonable

choice for Democrats. Go ahead, two days. But do you think that J.D. Vance being Vice President to Donald Trump hurts him a little bit because he is taking a back seat and you don't hear a lot about him as much as he in the election? You just don't see as much.

Do you think in the next four years it might hurt him a little bit just kind of being behind Donald Trump who's such a huge figure. No. I think you underestimate the value of name recognition. And being the Vice President of the United States significantly raises your man on the street

curating. Your man on the street name recognition. Why do you think Kamala Harris polls top among Democrats? Certainly not for her competency or her charming personality. It is simply because of name recognition. Biden's not Trump, though. I mean, right now, Kamala Harris on a debate stage against Pete Buttigieg loses. There are all kinds of other complicating factors in there, including Pete Buttigieg's sexuality and how that would play in a general election.

Again, that's simply analysis and diagnosis. It's not wishing for a particular outcome. but Kamala Harris is only asset to speak for as we sit here today and into the future is her name recognition and I'd say in the first quarter of Donald Trump's presidency that name recognition has been raised for vice president JD Vance all right story number four what'd you do this weekend fellas Easter weekend we all didn't have an extra long weekend we worked Friday we worked Monday. Let's go around the horn really quickly. How did you spend your Easter weekend young establishment, James? Had some brunch in the city with family, and then we went biking in Central

Park after said brunch. How nice. That's pretty sweet. What kind of bikes did you ride through Central Park? Did you ride city bikes? Tandum? No, like normal bikes. Like the kind of bike that you store in the city? I do, yeah. Oh, store downstairs. And you have enough bikes that your family could join you on this this bike ride well they brought bikes they put them in the back of the car we went around how about that yeah right how cute how did you got how much how'd you guys do did you do the full loop in central park yeah did a couple loops and then went down to the west side highway and then came back so it was a nice day out a little tan that's really nice i'm not even making funny that's a really nice little sunday it was beautiful out got a little tan but i will say a long

long bike ride after a couple of mimosa you you kind of feel it at the end At first you're going, you're like, oh, this is great. I feel great. And then at the end, it kind of is like, what do we just do? Yeah, I mean, if you did a couple loops, that's 12 miles. Then you go down the west side highway. You got up to a 15, 18 miles. I've never been a cyclist.

I don't really know what a long way cycling is. I don't know when, is like, is a 15-mile bike ride? Like, what is that in running? Would you say that's running five miles? Five miles. Yeah, I asked GPT last night. It said every one-mile ran is the equivalent to three miles biked. Okay. So you just as a family went on about a five-mile jog. Nice. I like that. Two days? How was your Easter?

It was great. We went up to my family. They live up in Connecticut. I saw my niece and nephew, and there's lots of little kids running around. So we did Easter egg hunt. And that was the first year I actually got to hide the Easter eggs. It's really the best thing. It's amazing. It's the best way to spend. I mean, outside of service, it's the best way to spend Easter morning. I have two sons, and we gave one of them a hard time, you know, of course. At this point, my sons are 17 and 13, but there hasn't been a single Easter egg hunt that my 13-year-old has managed to win. He is a really bad strategist, and it's maybe a second-child phenomenon, but, you know, for the first five years of his life doing this, what he did is basically chased his brother around the yard, and I'm like, that area has been cleared, dude.

He's already gone through there. Don't trail him. Go blaze your own path. that's why there's no eggs he's getting to him first and then he's picked that up in the last year or two but then he's just kind of running around like a chicken with his head cut off he doesn't really have a game plan you got to clear like a navy seal

you've got to clear certain areas of the yard pick a quadrant clear that quadrant move to the next but for years now he's been chasing his older brother I went to southern Oklahoma visited with some friends at a ranch up in southern Oklahoma

I had a good time doing country things, doing ranch things, riding four-wheelers through mud, getting them stuck, winching them out. I've been watching Yellowstone. That sounds a lot like that. Well, that's real cowboy stuff. I mean, that's fake soap opera cowboy stuff, but dressed up in the garments of real cowboy stuff.

No horses, just all motorized vehicles. My oldest son flipped his in what we called the mud pit. I'm talking jeans and boots, soaked all the way through mud and his teeth. But we also sat around a campfire and broke down the world's problems, which is probably one of the greatest things to do in this world. So we hope you at home also had a great weekend. Coming up a little bit later here on the Wilkins show, we're going to go into the current controversy around Secretary of Defense Pete Heggseth.

We're also going to dive into what's coming up when it comes to Trump's immigration policy. we have new trips to El Salvador by Democrats, and one of them is going to be joined us a little later today on the Fox News Channel, on the Will Kinshow. We'll have a debate with a Democrat from El Salvador. But coming up next, we have Dr. Mark Siegel. I have a lot I want to talk to him today about, including whether or not I need to be eaten vegetables or protein,

ADHD medication, something called ACEs, Adverse Childhood Experiences, and the measles outbreak. That's all coming up in just a moment here on the Will Cain Show with Dr. Mark Siegel. It's funny, we haven't hit a lull, but I guess for me, we've hit a dry spell when it comes to sports.

The Dallas stars have actually gotten crushed in game one of the Stanley Cup playoffs. Dallas Mavericks are an absolute embarrassment. Texas Rangers are doing pretty well. 13 and 9 pops in the AOL West, but I need something. I need something to keep me going, right? And not just on your local teams,

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In Daily Fantasies, prize picks, baseball season. Who do you have for us today, Two of Days? Who should we be riding? I love Fernando Tatis Jr. He's having a really great start. Really fantastic. He's coming out hot. Padres.

That'll get me dialed in here for the Padres. He's got an 8.5 hitter fantasy score, and I'm going more on him. I'm going more on him. 8.5 hitter fantasy score, I'm going more. I like him. He's been playing real well. Same with Ellie Delacruz. 8.5 hitter fantasy score.

I love it. Going more on them. Those two guys, I'm really like him right now. And that's various points for singles. That's various points for singles, home runs, RBIs, the daily fantasy score is an accumulation of those stats, and you've got eight and a half for both Tatis and De La Cruz. That's right.

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Somebody knows. Real cases, real people. Listen and follow now at Fox True Crime.com. Plunge. Break it all down with Dr. Mark Siegel here on the Will Kane Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel, the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe at Apple or on Spotify. Dr. Mark Siegel is a Fox News contributor. He also has a new special out on Fox Nation. Look at the truth now, finally behind COVID. Dr. Siegel, great to see you. What are you guys talking about on what truth can we learn on Fox Nation? Well, one truth that we've been saying

for four years now is that the consequences of closing schools and locking down the society were going to be enormous. And it was interesting to see the New York Times and other outlets come in three or four years after we did. And we're seeing that dramatically in terms of learning, in terms of socialization, in terms of substance abuse. And then, of course, the addiction to social media, which rose under that period of time. The second thing is that, of course, now the mainstream media is starting to say, well, maybe this did come from a lab, but we talked about that five years ago also. I was one of the first to say that. Tom Cotton was saying that. Robert Redfield was saying that, and he had top secret information on that, that he couldn't share,

but you really got the feeling that people were getting sick in that lab in the summer of 2019. People started getting sick around the world in the fall of 2019. And so we clearly didn't have the information we needed. And, you know, and there was a shroud of secrecy, as you would expect from communist China, who said after the 2003 SARS outbreak, well, we're going to play ball with global health. Well, that's not what happened. And we learned on the ground a lot of secrets about this virus that weren't told to us. Yeah, you know, the thing is, Dr. Siegel, and I say this, following where I go here, there's a lot of fatigue for whatever reason. I think because it impacted our lives so much. And there has been a fair amount of discussion about COVID. There's fatigue,

I think, to some point, but there's three storylines, two of which you touched on right there, that have to be followed over the next, honestly, over the next quarter century because of their long-term impacts. It's exactly what you said. We're going to be measuring the negative impact of what we chose to do during that two-year period for decades. What it did to children, their development, their education, their dependence on substances, it's going to be something that plays out over decades. It'll only be able to be seen by it, only be able to be seen like through a telescope, uh, like, like with time for its full, for its full total impact. Um, the other thing that we're going to be playing out over decades is not just the cover up from China, but the cover up here

in the United States, because you just simply can't have a man-made lab-based virus and presume that all of the different tentacles that reached into the United States left it unknown so the cover-up that extended back here and the why and then third is you know it's it is the role of china you know what are they doing and if not just in the past but in the present in the future to continue to develop essentially whether or not it's intended as such and that's another conversation where they haven't as a bioweapon but what they are doing that results the results effectively are a bioweapon these are all things that of the next 25 years have to be followed on the story of COVID. By the way, a quick back, a quick response to that.

You know, I'm not an economist, but it makes me feel pretty good about President Trump standing up to China right now for whatever reason. You know, standing up to them is really wise because of the tentacles they have. And you mentioned the United States. And it's clear that not only the suppression of that narrative by Fauci and others led to an entire line of approach to the American public of we know and you don't know. We know and you don't know. If you disagree with us, you're misinformed. You're disinformed. All of this stuff is almost totalitarian in its reach and it's despicable. And it led to a loss of confidence of the American public and a public health care system, which we absolutely need.

Let's go into a topic that is maybe illustrating that. But that's the measles outbreak. So three new states in the measles outbreak, that's Missouri, Louisiana, and Virginia. From what I understand, Dr. Siegel, what I've read in today, the measles outbreak in these cases, at least, is tied to international travel. I'm not sure yet the details, and I don't think anybody knows fully, the details of what that means, was somebody from another country moving into the United States or traveling to the United States and brought measles with them, or did an American travel abroad, contract measles, bring it back home? You know, people, I want to touch on two things when it comes to measles.

I think people are suggesting this is tied to an increasing anti-vaccine movement, which is tied to the lack of trust in the system, as you talked about just a moment ago. But I'd also like to address, like, I didn't see this that day, Dr. Siegel. Like, measles at one time not too long ago, like the Brady bunch had clips of them being home with the measles, right? Like, how serious is the measles? I think I saw something like about like the flu. You know, you covered that in a lot of different ways that I like.

One is I want to tell the viewers here that there's over 100,000 cases of measles in the European theater over the past year. That means that any, most every case is going to emanate probably from Europe or from another part of the world that comes here. So travel is the number one problem. It's not contained elsewhere. Second point you made is correct. I had measles as a kid. The vast majority of cases people do well. But unfortunately, you know, one out of five or one out of ten times they don't.

But, you know, it's interesting, RFK Jr. said to me on an interview I did with him, well, malnutrition has a lot to do with people doing poorly from all infectious diseases. He got vilified for saying that on my interview and elsewhere, he said it on Hannity, too. Then I talked to the WHO of all people on this, and the heads of the WHO scientists are saying, Oh, sure. We know that. That's why kids are dying in Africa from measles. So, you know, there's a disconnect here where everything gets so politicized. If you don't like the guy or you have some agenda, you don't listen to anything they have to say. And that's part of where we've gone in this country. That's disturbing public health-wise.

Here is RFK, Dr. Siegel, on the measles. When I was again, before the measles vaccine was introduced, there was a half a million people who got measles as many as 2 million a year. And nobody got in the newspapers for them for that. But the death rate was about 400 people a year, mainly children who were malnourish. So it's a infection fatality rate of 1 in 1,200 to 1 in 10,000. Healthy children should not die of measles.

And there's no reason they should. If the doctors know how to treat at the hospital, will not happen. Hey, let's talk about malnutrition really quickly, Dr. Siegel. I keep hearing different things, okay? And I know you're not a nutritionist, but you're a doctor. So the current trend movement and one that I'm on is eat protein, tons of protein, right? Like a gram per body weight.

I'm trying to get 160 to 170 grams of protein a day. And muscle building is like everyone's talking about you've got a lift and you, as you get age, as you get older, loss of muscle mass is a huge problem. So you've got to be eating protein. But then I read this morning to study about people that age the best over the age of 70. So do you reach the age of 70 without a chronic disease? And it's all Mediterranean diet. So it's a lot of vegetables, a lot of, you know, olive oil type stuff and fish.

What, you know, if you scroll Instagram, you come away confused every day, what you're supposed to be eating, Dr. Siegel. Well, let me make it easier for you. I'm a cholesterol guy. I focus on that as an intern. So I love the Mediterranean diet because I think the unsaturated facts. and the vegetables and the fish. I think the omega-3s and fish are really good. But fats itself have gotten a bad name in this society

when they're actually a power-pack calorie source. And in terms of lifting, I have a different angle on that because for men, as they age, if you do upper body exercise, you increase your testosterone level. One of the points about Make America Healthy again that I really like is, where are you getting what you want? Maybe you're getting the serotonin you need by exercise rather than an antidepressant.

Maybe you're getting the testosterone you need by upper body exercise rather than a supplement. That's where we want to start. I'm all for, by the way, medications will, when they're needed, when somebody really needs them, when they have a chronic disease. But prevention starts with lifestyle. It starts with a better diet.

It starts with exercise and sleep. It starts without ultra-processed foods. And one point I've made about ultra-processed foods in an op-ed I wrote for stat, recently is that they're addictive. We're talking about them like they're not addictive. Oh, let's just replace them with something healthier. It's not easy to do. There's a reason people flock to ultra-processed foods besides that they're cheaper. They taste great. They look like something from out of space. So you're drawn to them. Absolutely. More of the Will Kane show

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Then come back here to see how you did. Thank you for taking the quiz. Speaking of medication, I did this story. I followed this a week ago. I do find it fascinating about ADHD. have we been thinking about ADHD all wrong and whether or not we're certainly the data would seem to indicate overprescribing stimulants psychostimulants specifically to children um and the stats are kind of stunning i believe it's like what is it uh one in four young men by the age of 17

have been diagnosed with ADHD it's like it's a little lower by the age of 14 and often being prescribed atarol or riddlin um and you know like autism, and by the way, I just saw these stats on autism since the last time I talked about it. Autism has been reduced to, I believe it's one in 31 children in America are diagnosed with autism, but in California among young men, it's something like one in 16, one in 14. Wow. And here is RFK, by the way, talking about it's environmental instead of genetic. That kind of like statistical variance would certainly seem to suggest, something environmental, Dr. Siegel, as opposed to genetic?

So let's start with autism. I think that autism has both. I think there may be a genetic predisposition to autism, but I think there's an environmental component that's really triggering it. Let's call it an environmental trigger. Maybe it occurs in the womb. Maybe it occurs from environmental exposure that pregnant women have. Maybe it occurs in an early child.

But whatever it is, we need to examine it. and I'm glad that he's examining it. And I don't accept that the numbers are just that we're better at diagnosing. That's like saying, well, every doctor from 20 years ago back didn't know what they were doing. I'm not accepting that. There may be some increased diagnoses in a place like California, but it isn't the answer. The answer is what's in our environment that's promoting and provoking genetic predispositions. And we have to really look at that.

And, you know, RFKs made a great case for how people. how poisonous our environment is. He started as an environmental lawyer, you know, the microplastics that were exposed to, the forever chemicals that were exposed to, the fertility rate has gone way down. All of this is huge. And as far as ADHD is concerned, I look at it from the point of view, Will, as an internist. I see people in my office that I don't really believe have ADHD, but they say to me, give me my adderol. And what am I going to say? They say, without my adderol, I won't function. So I get it at the other end of the periscope.

I didn't start them on these meds, but they end up with some kind of habituation where they need them to function, where they maybe didn't need them in the first place. Maybe it was the distraction of social media. Maybe they had too much caffeine when they were little. Maybe they weren't interacting or looking their teacher in the eye or the teacher wasn't looking them in the eye. The remote learning of the pandemic has made all of that worse.

So I definitely am against the idea of jumping to medication. And one more thing, I don't know if you know this. You know almost everything, but you may not know that there was a big study out that showed that if you use therapy instead of chemicals, instead of the adderol or the riddlein, if you just waited a little bit longer, you ended up with the same results. We don't wait very long. We're in impatient society that wants a quick fix. Yeah, I saw that over the last.

long term is a big study that the children who were put on stimulants versus the children who were not performed the same academically and then ultimately behaviorally while there was a short-term benefit like in the first year for the kids that were put on the stimulants it wore off as and as time went on you lost every benefit there was never an academic benefit but behavioral benefit went away over time or at least met the same mean as the kids who got nothing. Then there's this, okay, when it comes to environmental. So I had Dr. Drew on last week and he brought this up and I've talked about this. It didn't click with me when I first heard him say this, but let's listen to it together. We are at once over identifying this syndrome

that we once sort of ignored and we are both overtreating and simultaneously under-treating. and we are approaching it at the same time in the places we're using too much, as you said, with the psychostimulants. And there are other alternatives. And, you know, I was always trained that without a proper diagnosis, a proper understanding of the biology, you can't have a proper treatment. And something I have known for a long time was that a good portion of the increase in ADHD that I was seeing was from childhood trauma. And childhood trauma is well associated with ADHD and childhood and adolescence and not just trauma but just adverse childhood experiences generally and we are ignoring that and I would argue that it is the over over identifying of

the syndrome and childhood trauma that is resulting in at least some of the numbers you're seeing there that is so dr. Siegel you just brought up therapy you just brought up therapy really quickly and I got a lot of notes from doctors after that talking about aces adverse childhood experiences and it's it's hard for me dr segal to kind of intuitively understand how that's related to attention deficit you know what i'm saying but but i keep hearing it more and more and that more research is pointing in this direction because of something i wrote in my fear book i agree with everything dr drew just said there you know in my fear book i talk about uh fear memories are much more powerful than any other memories so a child may be averting from something that

into them and their inability to focus can be a manifestation of not actually wanting to experience whatever that was. And the other point he made, I think, is made really well in Marty McCarrie's book The Price We Pay, our new FDA commissioner, where he said, if you check enough people for leg problems, even if they're not complaining about leg problems, you're going to find leg problems, and then they get tied into the modern industrial complex where they get treatment. So there's self-fulfilling prophecies. You have teachers on the lookout for ADHD instead of saying, well, is that child going to mature out of it?

Or might therapy help or might more interaction with peers help or Dr. Drew's great point about trauma. So I agree with that. We both under and overdiagnosed it and we certainly overtreated with medication. Okay. Last thing. Back to the testosterone, muscle building world of Instagram. Okay. I'm, you know, six months ago, Dr. Siegel, I'm supposed to cold plunge.

And then I'm supposed to cold plunge and use sauna. Now I'm seeing stuff that if you cold plunge after you lift, you actually reduce muscle building by something like, I think the figure I saw was 66%. And again, I'm getting all this science here now from Instagram. But is it true? Do you think is cold plunge actually not working for us? I mean, I guess it's good for inflammation, right?

But if you're trying to build muscle, bad? By the way, I'm always constantly impressed with how informed you are. You have that exactly right. I'm not a fan of cold plunge for a different reason, which is you never know who's hiding an underlying heart problem. I'm not trying to scare anybody, but I don't like the sudden. Now, Will Kane does it fine. Mark Siegel does it?

Maybe not. I mean, I like yoga. I like lifting. I like hot yoga. but then even that you have to be in good shape for. But the sudden change from lifting where you're building a sweat to jumping into the cold plunge, I don't know about losing muscle mass on that, but I don't like the sudden change of elements because of the strain it puts on your heart.

Huh. All right. Dr. Mark Siegel, you jumped on with us here with not much warning. I want to talk a lot about these things in health, and I really appreciate your perspective, and I appreciate the time you gave us by jumping on with short notice. Thank you, Dr. Siegel. well always great to be with you thank you for having me great show you have thank you all right thank you so much there's goes dr mark seagull check out his book fear and his new special

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Politico, the New York Times, coordinated new attack on Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth. It is the Will Kane show streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel on the Fox News Facebook page. Hit subscribe, please, at Apple or on Spotify. Brand new set of stories out regarding Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. It is similar to the signal chat controversy from a few weeks ago. is twofold. One, that he shared that very same information in a different signal chat group with his inner circle, which included his brother, who's a member of the DOD, his lawyer who's a member

of the DOD, and his wife. That new story was written up in the New York Times. This morning at the White House Easter egg roll, the Secretary of Defense addressed this. Listen, you know, what a big surprise that a bunch of, a few leakers get fired and suddenly a bunch of hit pieces come out from the same media that peddled the Russia hopes won't get back their Pulitzer. They got Pulitzer's for a bunch of lies. Pulitzer's for a bunch of lies

and on hoaxes, time and time and time again. And as they peddle those lies, no one ever calls them on it. See, this is what the media does. They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees and then they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations. Not going to work with me because we're changing the Defense Department,

putting the Pentagon back in the hands of warfighters, and anonymous smears from disgruntled former employees on old news doesn't matter. Kind of wild to see his kids, Jackson, for those of you watching on YouTube or Facebook, Jackson and Luke and Boone and Gunner all in the background watching him as he interacts with the press. the what hegseth alludes to there is the story from politico the department defense has been concerned about leaks coming out of the pentagon for the better part of a month three members of the department of defense including uh several inner circle aides to hegseth were let go his chief of staff redirected to a new position last week um this is among among allegations that

there are leaks of top stories coming out of the DOD. One of those people as well who has left is John Ulliat, who had a position within the communications department at the DOD. He turned and wrote an op-ed in Politico saying the Department of Defense is engulfed in chaos, that it's become a liability for the administration. Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary today, said, Hegseth has the complete confidence and backing of the White House. It doesn't appear that what Olliot said seems to be the case, at least at this moment.

This story is the same story as before. It's just this time. The allegation is that he put this information, which we've already litigated, whether or not it was war plans and whether or not it was real time, into a group. I guess the controversy is among people who did not need to know. We don't know the classified clearance. of his brother and his lawyer, but with his wife. It certainly is the case that the Department of Defense needs to get whatever's going on with leakers and everything else out of its midst.

But this doesn't seem to be yet another story with traction that's going to do something to take down the Secretary of Defense or for that matter be what they, I think, hope will be the first hit against the administration. they can get that, then it becomes something where you can chip away at the agenda of the goals and the progress of the administration of Donald Trump. We'll keep our eye on this story and continue to watch all these other stories as well when it comes to the Secretary of Defense. All right, finally, today, story number eight, what did you last watch? I'll bring back in the boys from New York. We got two days, Dan, and Young Establishment, James.

I'll start with what I last watched, because, the reason I bring this up today, fellas, is I struck out. Bad. I hate that. I hate that. I return from a ranch weekend. And one of my sons is visiting TCU with his mother. So my younger son and I were sitting around.

I said, let's watch something. Let's watch something. And, man, they're so good at getting previews out there that'll fool you. I know. And I, you know, I'm okay. I'm in on a Marvel movie here and there. I am. Like, it's built up enough credibility that it hasn't burned it yet, but this one might have done it.

This one might have done it for me. I might not watch any more Marvel movies because there's some institutional credibility based on the success of Iron Man and, you know, Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers. Also, I like origin stories. Also, I like villain origin stories, okay? So, there is one out there with a marketing. marginal villain character who I don't know anything about, but it also had to do with hunting. So I'm like, and the preview is good.

Hey, bud, should we watch Craven? Craven is a Spider-Man villain. I knew nothing about him, right? And the lead actor, who I don't know his name, he's kind of cool looking, and, you know, I buy him as like a action hero guy and Russell Crow's in it. Yep. Terrible Russian action. It's so bad, man. It's so bad.

It's so bad. It's so bad. I watch it, too. It's so bad. you did there is no plot there roughly is no plot zero the dialogue is ridiculous at times

like at times it's ridiculous I saw the honestly Dan he's one of the best parts of the movie and like the the lady who plays calypso who is like I don't know

the confidant of Craven is I mean she's a lovely lady and maybe she got some bad directing horrible acting like just the the delivery of the lines she was supported for a razzie for you know worst supporting actress and and i'm got to be honest she deserves it the writing the writing is ridiculous and i don't it's closest i've come to turn one off where i'm like i think i'm just going to bail but i was with my son i would have bailed but and he didn't

like it either he was making fun of it but i felt pot committed at some point and it's just a complete With a complete miss, Craven. Go ahead, two days. Here's the thing, Marvel has become, they hit a formula so they just put out as much content as possible. They just keep churning out these movies, these TV shows, and they don't care, because people are still going to watch them however bad they are. The ones that you need to focus on coming up are the Avengers Doomsday, the big ones

that are coming up that are like end game and all those ones, those you should watch. The side stories, not so great, not so much, do not need to watch for. any of the other story. Hmm. So keep it in mind. The thing about Craven is also it felt like it felt like it could have been good. Like it was really bad, but it could have been good. Like you got a decent premise.

A villain origin story, he's, you know, he's this like, I don't know. His powers are that of an animal kind of so he can run fast jump, all that stuff, you know, and he's a hunter. And by the way, also, he's a villain. But he's not a villain in the movie. Yeah. That's another weird thing. So it's Calypso.

You're like, okay, is he a good guy? Yeah, Calypso's a bad guy, too. Yeah, there are... But yet in the movie, you'd come away with good guys. He's Spider-Man's nemesis in the comic books. Spider-Man's a good guy. He's clearly a bad guy. And like in the last 30 seconds, there's a hint that he's going to be a bad guy now.

Like he's, okay, and he's going to, like, fulfill his father's wishes. But there's no plot that leads you in that direction. There's no character arc that, oh, he's going to become a bad guy. He's only a good guy for 99% in the movie. And the last 1% all of a sudden, you're like, huh? Anyway, all right. All right, James. Yeah.

Sports doesn't count. Oh, no. I already told that. I already told him that. I had to think a little harder after that. I've been watching some Amazon Prime is now putting out all the old seasons of The Apprentice on. Oh, my God. And I've been watching them not for like pure entertainment, but it's like,

it's like a fascinating historical document and like when they're like a 70 year old man or something when they were out they were getting like 20 to 30 million people an episode and I think he's talking about back in the day yeah it's more like look like

what our culture was like in 2004 it is weird like the production I can't imagine going back and watching I can't imagine watching that like I wouldn't watch an old survivor I don't think I mean I'm like skipping reality show the best parts of the boardroom. I'm going to watch American Idol

Season 1. Let's see what happens. All right. Two of Days, what did you last watch? So Last of Us, Season 2 is out. Two episodes are out. Yes. Just when I thought HBO, I was done with HBO, White Lotus is over,

severance was over, I thought I could take a break. All of a sudden, Last of Us is back. Yeah. Yeah, that's how they do it. They roll a new season out. As soon as your white Lotus is over, they're going to get you on Last of Us. That's one at a time. That's all they have to have. One hit at a time for you

to keep your subscription. I play the video games. I love them. The shows, not so much. Nothing really happens. The plot isn't pushed forward. You can watch it if you want, if you like the first season. Nothing much has happened yet, but it is

canon to the video games. So it's pretty good in that regard. I like season one. I like apocalyptic stuff. I like it. I like it. I like season one. And I'll watch season two. I don't like starting something if there's only one episode. Sure. So like I need them to go ahead and build up a couple episodes, get ahead of me. On that note, here's what I'm watching that I actually kind of like. I told you this last week. I'm watching Mobland because I'm a big Tom Hardy fan and I like gangster. So it's English gangster. I think, is it Guy Ritchie? I don't think it's Guy Ritchie. And it's Tom Hardy. And I'm watching Righteous Jimstones. Those are the two I'm in on right now.

I'm doing Yellowstone, like I said earlier. I just started season five. You know, man, I haven't done the final season. Yeah. I haven't done the final season of Yellowstone. I don't know that I ever will. I don't think Kevin Costner is even in the final season, so I'm not sure I'll even get around to finishing Yellowstone.

All right, that's what you watched last. And that is going to do it for us today here on the Will Kane Show. Thanks for hanging out. This is always fun to have you, Loride, along with us. We'll see you again tomorrow. Same time, same place. Tomorrow, here in the Wilkins show. Listen to ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast,

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