Will Cain Country - Dr. Marty Makary & David Marcus: Make America Healthy Again!
Episode Date: September 26, 2024Story #1: Sean 'Diddy' Combs & New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Why do we choose the laws we choose to enforce, and the laws we choose to ignore? Story #2: Peanut allergies, Ozempic, vaccine schedu...ling, and the food supply in America. Will brings on FOX News Contributor, Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins University to discuss his new book, Blind Spots: When Medicine Gets It Wrong, and What It Means for Our Health. Story #3: FOX News Columnist David Marcus on what Pennsylvanians in bars are saying about Vice President Harris and Governor Walz and how Project 2025 propaganda seems to be making a major impact. Plus, The Crew takes a personality test. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, Denny, New York City Mayor Eric Adams, the laws we choose to enforce and the laws that we agree.
norm. Two, peanut allergies, Ozympic, the vaccine schedule, and the food supply in America,
with, in my estimation, one of the most respected voices in medicine. The author of a new book,
Blindspots, Dr. Marty McCarrie. Three, the results. Sixteen different personality types. Which one
of mine? Which one are you? Coming up on The Will Kane Show.
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A follow-up from yesterday's show and some interaction with the Wallitia.
In talking about American Gangster, my recommendation for American Gangster,
started having a discussion with the boys, the boys in New York,
talking about which movies hold up.
Is the Godfather the line where before that a movie just looks too old?
I went down the rabbit hole yesterday after watching American Gangster
and taught you about the French connection.
heroin importation from the Golden Triangle of Southeast Asia, from Turkey, through the port of Marseilles, into New York City.
And that led me to wondering about whether or not the movie, French Connection, holds up to modern-day sensibilities.
Well, Mark Sheets emails in, and he says, Will, the French connection came out in 73, one year after the Godfather.
It holds up.
Count me intrigued.
I may just have to go back and watch Gene Hackman in the...
the French connection.
How about this from
Jeppie Anderson says,
Hey Will, check this out.
I think you must have been
the major influence
in American Gangster.
A 2007 movie,
now sixth most searched crime movie yesterday.
You got some stroke, man.
He sends in the Google Resorts
for top 10 most
search crime movies streaming today
coming in at number six American Gangster.
The power of the
the Willisha. Now, we talked as well yesterday about my personality. Our guest, Joey Jones,
talked about giving veterans a personality test to, in part, achieve some self-awareness,
in part, find the holes in your own game, in part, set about making it so you can,
not just tailor a career to your personality type, but understanding how you can bolster your
strengths and shore up your weaknesses. I went back to this personality test,
sent in by our producer tinfoil pat i did this some time ago i didn't remember my results but i took
it again this morning in fact when i was taking i thought i should just do this live on air it's about
40 questions though it takes a little bit of time and i came back as tinfoil had suggested once again
i guess it's what i got in the past tinfoil as well yep i came in as en tpa 16 different
personality types this one colloquially referred to as debater
Let's give you a little taste of what that means.
You are a vibrant intellectual force, always ready to challenge ideas and push boundaries.
Your quick wit and audacious spirit make you a natural provocateur, thriving on mental gymnastics and a good argument.
You see the world as a playground of possibilities.
Your innovative mind is constantly buzzing, making connections.
You see potential while others see problems.
This makes you an invaluable asset.
Your out-of-the-box thinking can lead to groundbreaking solutions, and it shows how extrovert.
I am, about 71% extroverted, 93% intuitive versus observant, 82% thinking versus feeling and on
and on, 76% assertive versus turbulent. But it doesn't just, it's not just a Chinese fortune
cookie, it's not just all positives, tomorrow you will get rich. It also says what career past
you should pursue, and it says your strengths and your weaknesses. So, I thought I'd share the
weaknesses. You're a novelty seeker, routine tasks, quickly lose your interest,
potentially leading to procrastination.
Is that true?
Boys in New York?
I see 10-4 already nodding.
Is that true?
I don't see it.
Come on.
I don't know.
You ever gotten back to a text within, you know, an hour?
It's one of the most solidified reputations I have acquired through life.
Will, horrible communicator, terrible texter, which, by the way, is listed under weaknesses.
Blunt communicator.
Your direct approach may sometimes ruffle feathers in the workplace.
Also, I have difficulty with follow-through.
You may struggle to complete projects once the initial excitement wears off.
True.
And you're a rule challenger.
Your tendency to question established norms can create tension with authority figures.
I think at this point in the show, we should probably bring in our bosses back there behind the doors of the 15th floor at Fox News and find out, is that how it works when dealing with Will.
So far, tinfoil, your personality quiz is pretty good.
Now, I will say of the 16 personality types, I wasn't much.
most flattered by being described as an E-N-T-P-A debater.
There were others like the adventurer, the entrepreneur, the commander that I was really
kind of excited that I might come back to results on.
So I may take the quiz a couple more times until I dialed it in exactly how I wanted.
But no, when I dove into some of those, I found, you know what, you may think of yourself as
an adventurer, but you're not, at least according to this quiz.
So here's what we'll do, a little bit later in the show.
We'll bring in what these 16 personality types are.
We'll talk about it.
We'll find out maybe what you guys best are suited to here on the show
because God knows I'm trying to figure out your strengths.
And we'll apply it to the audience.
Let the audience figure out what they are as well.
One more, though, from the Wilicia.
This is from Glenn Cordova.
I listen to your podcast every weekday, and I'm a fan.
During your 925-24 podcast with Joey Jones,
you mentioned how the lack of Las Vegas shooting story coverage
leaves one with many questions. My wife and I had just left Las Vegas before the shooting
and we're staying at New York, New York. I read it one time the shooter was kicked out of Vegas
casinos and had an ax to grime. I don't know what motivated him, but this could be your next rabbit
hole. Please keep recommending or listening listing books you are reading. I've heard several
audio books that you mentioned. Right now I'm finishing the wager. The wager is the book I just
finished as well, my most recent one, about 17th century British naval exploration and a story
murder and mutiny. I like your son, find the way history is taught, is very dry.
Now, with human interactions such as portrayed in the wager, I'm finding history to be fascinating.
Plus, I learned some about ship navigation challenges, British and Spanish fighting ships
in their armament. In closing, I'm a huge sports fan, enjoy the sports angle of your podcast.
Thanks for the quality podcast, Glenn Cordova. Thank you, Glenn. I will keep you up to date
on what is stimulating my mind, whether or not it's American gangster or the wager.
finally this from pam will i realize this was a show that aired a few months ago however my husband
i feel like you forgot the o g of conservative radio paul harvey the rabbit hole yesterday was great she's right
we did a mount rushmore with outkicks bobby barag which only leaves you with four figures
you could include on your mount rushmore of conservative media paul harvey is so overwhelming influential
and perhaps with my e nt p a personality i have been thinking
what is the modern-day version of Paul Harvey?
Like, you can keep reinventing the wheel.
And there are modern-day versions of Rush Limbaugh, you know, not equals, but versions.
What's the modern-day version of Paul Harvey?
That's something people should think about in media.
But speaking of the rabbit hole, here's the top, the beginning spirals of where I am today.
Story number one.
Diddy, I'm Eric Adams, the laws we choose to enforce and the laws we choose to ignore.
I've had trouble getting into the story of P. Diddy.
I don't know why. It's certainly salacious. And maybe that's part of the reason.
I've had some trouble seeing the nutrition content beyond the salacious.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no high-browed individual who's above love is blind.
You know I love some salaciousness.
Right now I'm watching Mr. McMahon on Netflix about Vince McMahon, the founder.
of the WWB. So I'm not above finding out whether or not Diddy is gay or whether or not the
rap industry is run by a gay mafia. It was said some 10 years ago by Fat Joe. I'm not into the
details of wild freakout parties. It just hasn't grabbed me. And I guess in a way, I wanted to know
what's beyond the current events of salaciousness. I'm sure one day I'll watch the documentary.
And by the way, there are reports that Netflix has already entered into an agreement.
with 50 cent to create a documentary series on Diddy.
But on a day-to-day basis, the latest and greatest of Diddy hasn't caught my attention.
And I think in part, here's why.
What is the allegation beyond salaciousness?
And what I see is that Diddy has been charged with sex trafficking.
My antennas went up sometime about the concept of sex trafficking.
Not that I deny its existence, but its application.
You see, I remember when New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft,
who the allegations were was headed to rub and tugs at massage parlors in Florida
was being pursued under the charges of sex trafficking and I thought even if true
what's the difference then now between prostitution and sex trafficking and what is
did he doing that rises above prostitution to sex trafficking well I did start to go down
that rabbit hole the best I can tell in law is very state to state and then of course there are
the feds prostitution is a one-on-one transaction a John and
a prostitute sex trafficking seems to include a third party are you sending that prostitute sharing
that prostitute but most importantly the secondary ingredient forcing that woman on to others and that's
seems to be the allegations regarding did he that he was pimping out women and maybe even young stars
there are allegations of course that they're just nothing more than allegations but people like usher and
Justin Bieber were part of this exploitation.
Until I can get my hands around it more, though, I guess I come at it with a level of curiosity,
of course, but a level of skepticism when it comes to federal charges.
And that's less about Diddy and more about my instinct.
Yesterday, we had Congresswoman Nancy Mace on the show.
And Nancy Mace talked about pushing forward the bill of the violence against women from
Illegal Immigrants Act.
My instinct was off and you could hear this.
Or rather, maybe it was on.
So why do we need that law?
So that's the argument made by Democrats.
We already have the law.
And I got to thinking about it, and I said to Mace yesterday,
well, I get it.
If you won't enforce this law, I'll pass a new law you will enforce.
But we've arrived at a place where the federal government
and the federal criminal code is literally unquantifiable.
They've put committees together.
Can you quantify how many laws there are?
And they can't.
Like, if I lined up the books, you know, the statutes of the federal criminal code,
it would far exceed the height of my screenshot here.
in the studios in Dallas of the Will Cain Show.
I mean, it's books and books and codes and codes and statutes layered on top of one another.
So much so that they've had committees come back and say,
the average American, you, me, walking around every day breaks three federal criminal laws.
Every day, you or me, we break three federal criminal laws.
Which makes me wonder, it makes me want, not more laws,
but the enforcement of the laws already on the books.
and that leads me to New York City Mayor Eric Adams.
Eric Adams has been indicted.
He's the first sitting New York City mayor, America's largest city, to be indicted in its history.
Now, the indictment has not yet been unsealed and revealed.
It will be today.
The suggestion, though, is that Adams' campaign was receiving funds throughout, through the Turkish government,
that he might be guilty of being an unregistered foreign agent.
now this is the law we choose to ignore of course we heard about bob menendez the new jersey senator
taking gold bars from countries that's just the most obvious i'd ask you this how many people
involved in the united states government are taking money in some form or fashion from a foreign
government we know the allegations around hunter biden and we know the allegations around joe biden
i mean that's two obvious ones but i would say to you that's the tip of the iceberg how many
American politicians are under the influence of foreign governments, and we could rattle off the
probabilities, almost the certainties. China, yes. Hello, Eric Swalwell. Saudi Arabia, yes,
bipartisan, Republican and Democrats. Israel, yes. How many foreign governments have undue influence
of the people that we elect to represent the people of America? This is a scandal. This
is at the very heart of what it means to be an American
and have a representative government.
This is a law we choose to ignore,
and this is one that doesn't have trouble gathering my attention.
Not because I'm in politics more than pop culture,
not because I care about Mayor Eric Adams more than Diddy,
because I know the depths of this scandal would make P. Diddy blush.
Who are you on the 16 different personality types?
That's coming up on the Will Ken Show, but first,
Why do we have more peanut allergies?
We didn't have those when I was a kid.
What about the rise in autism?
What about the food supply?
What about the most important questions to our everyday lives?
I would love to ask a doctor whose opinion I trust.
I happen to have one today with Dr. Marty McCarrie next on the Will Cain Show.
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Are you a member of the analyst class?
That's an architect, logician, a debater, a commander.
Are you a diplomat?
That'd be an advocate or a mediator, a campaigner, or a protagonist.
Are you a sentinel?
That's a defender, a logistician, an executive, a consul.
Or are you an explorer?
That's a virtuoso, an adventurer, an entertainer, an entrepreneur.
16 personality types, what are you?
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Join me now as the author of a brand new book.
He's a Fox News contributor.
He is a medical doctor, Johns Hopkins University.
He's one of the voices that over the past four or five years, as I've gotten known,
is one of the most trusted in my mind, voices in medicine in America.
It's Dr. Marty McCarrie on The Will Kane Show.
What's up, Doc?
Good to be with you, Will.
So what first, before we kind of dive into some of the issues that are most curious to me,
what led you to blind spots?
Over the past three or four years, you and I've had conversations about COVID.
We've had conversations about food and weight and how to make healthy choices.
what led you to writing a book called Blind Spots?
It's the power of group think.
You see a lot of smart people develop these giant blind spots,
and in medicine we've got a tremendous blind spot,
and that is our poison food supply.
We're watching all of these chronic diseases skyrocket.
In the last 50 years, I mean, American health care has been a failure
when it comes to health.
When it comes to emergencies and sophisticated operations,
we're better and we're pretty amazing.
But when it comes to the main issue of our country, and that is the health status of our population,
all these chronic diseases have skyrocketed.
No one is talking about the obvious, which is the poison food supply.
Now, there's other examples where we develop huge blind spots, and you mentioned one of them
with the peanut allergy, but there's a long list where people need to know the truth about health.
And if I just write a textbook, no one's going to be interested.
but if I tell you the backstory of how this medical dogma takes on a life of its own with no
scientific support, and then science actually shows that it's wrong, and the establishment is
too proud to acknowledge it and just kind of fades away, that's what I think could be a valuable
education for people when it comes to health.
Let's talk about food and then back our way into groupthink.
You know, these two things, it seems historically were accomplished at the same time, Dr. McCarrie,
for most of human history the biggest battle was the battle against starvation poverty was marked by starvation
and then we saw a marked change in that in fact it was flipped 180 degrees on its head i mean if i'm guessing
it was about 50 years ago uh and you know i've read a lot about how a lot of this was accomplished in
terms of you know genetically modifying food uh fertilizer first in the 1800s we just learned how to grow
bigger, stronger, more plentiful food. And at the same time, now food became cheaper and people had
access to it. So we solved starvation, but it's like we went from a people across the globe who
couldn't get out of, couldn't get out of the batters box to rounding the bases and not stopping at first
or second, we went to obesity like in one failed stroke, from starvation to obesity in record time.
you know well they say you're the smartest guy at the network and now i see why because that
was an excellent story who is they yeah the word on the street man um sometimes i question it when
i see your loyalty to the cowboys but um but i guess you're a loyal guy you're also a loyal guy
by the way really quickly on that note you're a raven's guy right so you have you have uh you have
speaking of media bias where was the coverage of the ravens beating the cowboys on last weekend
so i haven't had an opportunity yet i will uh i'll eat my just desserts let's just hope i don't
to have a very cute transition let's hope i don't get obese eating my just desserts on cowboys
losses this year you're you look like you're in great shape and but you're totally spot on
here the american food supply was designed to treat food insecurity that is hunger not nutrition
and so when they started producing food not with good soil but basically raised food that was raised
on caffeine with no real nutrient supply, with no regenerative farming, we got food that
looked pretty, and sometimes it was genetically modified to be bigger, but it was poorer in
nutrients. And then we poured pesticides on it. And then we added ultra-processed foods.
Then we engineered highly addictive food ingredients that were designed to be addictive.
And so you feel kind of full or queasy after you eat. But really, your hunger has increased.
because of these ingredients.
And you just want to keep eating.
I mean, you can't overeat on healthy whole foods like broccoli or steak.
But with these food ingredients and our poison food supply, people were starting to find
their appetite increased.
And then we altered the gut microbiome.
These are all things that are avoidable.
And then pesticides sprayed most of our food supply, like 90 plus percent of fruits and
vegetables are sprayed multiple times.
The average strawberry has been sprayed like a dozen times.
with seven and a half average different types of chemicals.
Roundup was sort of a byproduct of the Agent Orange era,
and they found, sure, it killed the pests, but it also killed the crops.
So they genetically modified the crops to be so-called Roundup ready,
so they wouldn't die from the Roundup.
But humans are not Roundup ready, and they're not genetically modified to handle these.
So it's altering the microbiome.
So these are the things we've got to start talking about.
Modern medicine has blown this whole area off, but we've got to address the fact that half of our nation's children now are overweight or obese.
It's not their fault.
Just as an anecdote, Dr. McCary, I've been probably, I've been an idiot on food for most of my life, maybe like everybody.
You know, just kind of, I didn't think about it.
I mean, to be, if I'm being honest, I was for the first 45 years of my life, pretty naturally skinny.
I didn't have to fight or work at it.
So I didn't think a lot about what I ate.
knew okay let's not eat a ton of sugar you should pass up on dessert that kind of thing right
i'd say starting in july of this year i became someone who's like okay now i'm focused on what i'm
eating and all i'm doing is something simple i'm just trying to eat as much possible protein every
day like 170 grams and i'm trying to eat as few of calories every day under 2,200 and what i found
is i don't i'm not sitting here trying to i had a revelation in this which is what you just
to, I'm not that hungry throughout the day. Like, I stay full. Now, I've attributed that to the,
to the lasting effects of so much protein in your body from breakfast through lunch through dinner.
I just don't get hungry. But I find it's not that hard to do the thing that's hardest for most
people, which is get under my calorie count. As long as I'm getting nutritious protein
throughout the day, and I'll still eat vegetables or whatnot, but I don't have that much trouble
hitting a lower calorie count. So basically, to what your point is, I'm not getting all those
empty calories. It just make me hungry over and over again throughout the day.
Well, well, you don't need any doctors. What you're doing is working. I saw you a couple
weekends ago and you look great. And so keep doing, you know, these are like biblical principles,
whole foods, clean meats, fasting, meditation. You know, we just have to block out a lot of the noise.
Like breakfast is the most important meal of the day. You know where that comes from? That comes
from a general mills advertising campaign in the 1950s. I don't think cavemen,
woke up to a giant breakfast buffet, you know.
And so look at the Amish, very low rates of cancer, autism, obesity.
They're active.
They're eating off the farm.
They've got good soil, good techniques.
They're not eating ultra-processed foods, and they don't have seed oils.
Seed oils sound natural, like vegetable oil, corn oil, canola oil.
But they're not.
They are denatured at very high temperatures, and then they're changed with a chemical solvent,
a technique that was learned in the petroleum lubricant.
And it changes them. These are chemicals, and it's 10 to 20 percent of U.S. calories now are the seed oils. Just look at the packaging of anything with a long list of ingredients. You'll see it right there. And what's happening is all of these chemicals, the ultra-processed foods, the pesticides, microplastics, heavy metal, you name it. All of these things that do not appear in nature, when they hit the gut, when they go down the gastrointestinal tract, the body's immune system that lines the GI tract is reacting.
Not with an acute inflammatory storm, but with a low-grade inflammation that's always there.
It's constant.
And it makes people feel sick and sad sometimes.
And what are we doing?
We're ignoring this.
And we're just throwing poison food at our nation's kids.
And we're medicating people.
We're over-medicating.
I mean, 20% of kids are on meds now.
That's quite a statement.
Okay.
is so many things I want to follow up on that you just said.
So first of, I'd never heard that before.
So I am fascinated by the topic of autism, okay?
And I don't have any, because I have the answers.
I only have the observational questions, meaning when I was a kid, you know, there just
wasn't a high rate anecdotally of autism.
There was higher rates of Down syndrome, and we know why I don't, you don't see Down syndrome
kids as much as you used to in the 80s and 90s, and the answer is abortion.
but we also back then didn't see, you know, obvious rates of autism, and it's fairly common.
I don't know what the current numbers are, but you just told me autism rates within the Amish population is incredibly low.
I'd never heard that.
So many of these chronic diseases didn't exist two living generations ago and still doesn't exist,
but it is rare in some of these old men in Amish communities that live off the land.
And we see the same principle overseas.
Autism, which was ultra rare, is now one in 22 kids born in California.
What is going on?
Now, I talked to some of the experts on the microbiome and gut health for the book Blind
Spots, and they believe it has something to do with that lining of bacteria that make up
the microbiome because some of those bacteria are connected to the brain.
They produce serotonin.
And they've observed for a long time that autistic kids have a different consistent.
consistency and texture to their stool, suggesting a central role of gut health in autism.
Wow. And so, and by the way, I'll connect the dots a minute, but same thing with peanut
allergies. Like, I tease that, and I know you wrote about this, and you've written about it
recently in the Wall Street Journal. That was something, I mean, we never heard of peanut allergies
when we were kids. Now, you can't get on, they don't even serve peanuts on an airplane.
No peanut allergies in Africa, most of Europe, Southeast Asia, and no people.
peanut allergies in the United States just two generations ago. And even in the 1970s and 80s going
into the 90s, they were rare. They occurred. But when they were sort of noticed in the 1990s,
they were mostly mild. But then the American Academy of Pediatrics ignited our modern-day peanut
allergy epidemic by ordering mothers to avoid all peanut butter and peanut products for kids
zero through three years of age. Now, they had forgotten about a basic principle called immune
intolerance or the old dirt theory. That is, if you don't, not exposed to something in the first
few years of life, you become sensitized to it. And they had it perfectly backwards. The recommendation
of peanut butter abstinence resulted in a increase, a surge in peanut allergies. And so when
peanut allergies started to skyrocket, they thought, we got to double down. We got these
anti-science moms out there slipping in some peanut butter. And 15 years of beating parents to
avoid all peanut butter for young kids, then they realized from a big study that showed it's not
genetic, it is from the peanut abstinence that causes peanut allergies, then prevent it, causes it.
And that's why the U.S. has the worst peanut allergy epidemic in the world.
So what about, this can be a question in part back to autism, but, well, so is the, has the
working presumption been for a while that autism is a genetic disorder? And what I'm hearing from you
is at least the hypothesis that it's an environmental disorder.
And as part of that, like you use a word that I'm hearing a lot more and more.
You know where I heard it first?
Tom Brady, uh, inflammation, like, because I was in sports and we were fascinated by
Tom Brady's diet and he wouldn't eat this or that or this or that that would cause
inflammation.
But now everybody's talking about inflammation.
So how core to all these problems is the concept of inflammation?
Look, Tom's the goat for a reason.
I mean, he's spot on.
And modern medicine has sort of standard reflexive answers for everything.
When you ask, oh, what's causing psiliac?
What's causing autism?
What's got?
Standard answers.
It's genetics, obesity, or tobacco.
Genetics, obesity, or tobacco.
They're totally missing the point.
They've got a giant blind spots.
Look at the microbiome, the central organ of health.
Look at how we alter the microbiome.
with unnecessary antibiotics in the last 50 years.
With C-sections, you have a different microbiome.
A study just came out associating inflammation with having been born by C-section
and even colon cancer in people who were born by C-section.
We know inflammation is sort of a root cause of so many chronic diseases,
inflammatory bowel disease, all on the rise.
It was rare just two generations ago.
So one amazing study out of the Mayo Clinic I go through in the book is
They looked at kids who took antibiotics in the first couple of years of life compared to kids who didn't.
And we know antibiotics carpet bombed that microbiome altering the balance of bacteria,
of those millions of bacteria normally in the gut.
And they found that kids who took antibiotics in the first couple of years of life had higher rates of obesity.
Now, if you know, farmers have noticed for a long time you give antibiotics to animals, they're fatter.
And so the world expert on the microbiome just did this experiment.
He said, hey, if antibiotics are changed the microbiome of animals and making them fat, or what are they doing to children?
And you hear about people who exercise and work out like crazy, can't lose weight.
Turns out their microbiome may have been altered in its early formation.
We do so many things to alter the microbiome and we don't appreciate it.
That same study out of the male clinic found that kids who took antibiotics in the first couple years had a 32% higher rate of attention deficit disorder.
Remember that connection between the gut and the brain and the serotonin production?
90% higher rate of asthma also on the rise
and a nearly 300% increased rate of celiac also on the rise.
There you go.
All these chronic diseases tied to gut health
and no one's talking about the gut health,
the microbiome, and our poison food supply
and what it does to it.
Now, antibiotics save lives, don't get me wrong.
Seasection saved lives.
But we are altering the microbiome messing with mother nature
in ways we don't appreciate.
So anybody listening, and I'm out of my own curiosity,
So testing my microbiome, is that something that you would advise?
Like, I can go in.
I know you're a gastroenterologist, but can I get my microbiome tested?
And then, depending on the results, are there things you can do to rehab your microbiome?
So the science is in its infancy.
We've just now recognized this link between the gut microbiome and all these diseases and
general body inflammation. But we don't have good tests for it. We get all of these data. Remember,
there's millions of different bacteria so we can sequence them all now with DNA technology in an hour
and tell you, here's the millions of data points from all the different types and the balance
and the diversity of your microbiome. But we don't know what to make of that yet. We do see that
as populations from other countries like the Philippines move to the United States and adopt
the Western American diet, their microbiome diversity shrinks. We see more rise.
an overgrowth of certain types of bacteria in the gut that normally live in a low level
overgrow into a higher level, and some of those are pro-inflammatory bacteria, increasing
general body inflammation. Now, probiotics are there with the promise of helping to restore
some of the gut bacteria. It could be yogurt, could be sort of different, you know, all sorts
of different compounds, fermented drinks. But we don't have good science.
know what's working and what's going right through your system. Most probiotics will go right
through your system. So I encourage people to try different things, especially when they're
struggling with something. But we don't, this is where the field is just now recognizing
what's been in their blind spot. I saw a clip of you. I don't know if this was a medical
panel. It could have been even a congressional panel. I think it was a medical panel where you just
referenced the Philippine immigrants. You told this fascinating story about the Pima Indians that they
had run out of food supply from growing it on their own land, and they were sent to food supply
from the American government. And then almost immediately, they had an obesity epidemic. And in
order to address that, medicine's response, and the government response was, let's see if they
have a genetic predisposition to obesity. It's like the comedy of the absurd, right? This is like
the ultimate in government misguided policy. The government had felt bad about the injustice
of ruining the soil of these Indians.
So they sent this government food.
It wasn't healthy food.
It was government food, junk food, processed food, spam, and things like that.
And when they got obese, the NIH dispatches their researchers to draw the blood of the
Indians to look for a gene as to why 90% of them are obese.
It's like, no, you've been feeding them junk food.
Like, we cannot see the forest from the trees.
And it's emblematic of what's going on in the medical field.
We have failed to look at our food supply and these cats.
catastrophic mistakes caused by the medical establishment. Well, these are medical crises that
were ignited by the medical establishment. The dogma of peanut abstinence and peanut butter
abstinence igniting the modern-day peanut allergy epidemic. The dogma that opioids were not addictive,
igniting the opioid epidemic, the dogma that hormone therapy causes breast cancer,
resulting in 50 million women suffering needlessly when they should have benefited from
hormone replacement therapy. And on and on, the food pyramid misinformation.
people need to know the truth so one more general understanding question general body inflammation
okay again that is a concept that is taken on the role of villain for me but i actually don't know
what it does to your body like and in fact you know we can almost like i'm puffy today or i feel in
you know whatever bloated or inflamed i don't know if those things are all connected tell me about
general inflammation so inflammation is sort of a response of
the body when it senses injury. It will send certain types of cells to the location, including
blood clotting factors, sensing something's been injured and we need to repair it. And that inflammatory
storm is happening at a low grade when you're obese. Obesity is an inflammatory state. And when
cells are under that duress of the inflammatory response all the time, first of all, you feel
blah. You just don't feel right. You could feel low energy or you could just feel something. You can just feel
sick. And then another manifestation is that it's irritating the cells as cells divide,
and we now recognize that it affects mutations and is associated with cancer. And we're
seeing a bunch of these cancers go up. Guess which types of cancers are going up in the modern
era? The cancers that line the GI tract, colon cancer and young people under age 50, pancreas
cancer. Yeah. So what do we do? Well, first, before we
what we do, let me ask you this, is this one of the things that we should or should not be
doing? Now, I approach this with a level of humility. What attracts me to this particular
subject we're about to broach is dishonesty. And I don't know why, but like the Ozympic
conversation. So I actually don't judge people who are choosing. I know a ton of people
who are using Ozympic. And the truth is, I don't know that I know any of them are doing it
for diabetic reasons. They're all doing it for vanity reasons, right?
And, okay, fine.
You know, what, what, I don't know that I have judgment on that.
I noticed no one ever says anymore.
You look great.
How'd you lose the weight?
No one ever says that anymore.
But so what do we, what are you, what do you're, I know this is part of medicine's constant
medicinal response instead of addressing a healthy underlying condition.
But what are your thoughts on Ozympic?
Well, O'Sempeg is mimicking a hormone that normally is in the body.
So we can make it sound like it's very dangerous, but the bottom line is,
it's been around for a long time in its natural form. Now, when you take it regularly, you're slowing down your GI motility. You're reducing excess muscle fat, but you're also reducing, sorry, you're reducing your excess body fat. You're also reducing your muscle mass. And the number one predictor of longevity is how much muscle mass you have. That's been well established before Ozempic. So are we accelerating frailty? Are we reducing excess body fat and even obesity complications in the
the short term, but accelerating frailty and reducing lifespan. I think it's a nuanced
conversation. But don't, please tell me you're not on it because you're an inspiration in
terms of fitness. No, I'm not, I'm not on Ozimic. But look, man, like if I had trouble
with my weight, I'm not sitting there telling you that I wouldn't be. I'm just not going to,
it's just not an issue that I've ever thought about. I don't need that. But, um, I, so it's
working. So there's a popular theory. It's not.
theory as you point out it's it's science that that everybody my age younger and older should be lifting
weights like you know the 80s were this running culture day right like cardio cardio cardio cardio run run
run but now everybody says lift weights lift weights lift weights lift weights and and the reason why is what
you're talking about you need muscle mass because you naturally lose it through life so ozimic's
working in direct contrast to that effort is what you're saying it's taking away your muscle mass
so you pay the price you're going to be paying the price in your 60s and 70s and 80s
We don't have that long-term data, but that's the concern. Now, there are an estimated to be about
15 to 16 new GLP-1 type drugs that are going to come out before 2029. And some of those
purport to be blocking the receptor on the muscle, so you won't have the muscle loss or less.
We'll see. We'll see. But the bigger question is, is this the road we should be going down
as a society? Just medicating all of our problems. Maybe we need to talk about school lunch
programs instead of putting every six-year-old on Ozempic as the American Academy of Pediatrics
is pushing for right now. And when you talk about adults, it's one thing. But when you talk about
our nation's children, we've poisoned their food supply. It's in a giant blind spot. Half of them
are overweight or obese. Type 2 diabetes used to be something a pediatrician saw maybe once in their
career. Now it's one in four to one in five kids will have diabetes or pre-diabetes.
it's 95% curable, but just changing what people eat.
So we're feeding them these highly processed foods that function like sugar, even bread,
stripped of its fiber chopped up, but functions like sugar.
Feeding them sugar all day.
We're wondering why they're tired and can't sit still a desk.
We medicate them for attention deficit disorder.
They're overweight.
We blame it on them.
You know, you're disobedient.
You're lazy.
What about kids in Japan where the obesity rates less than 5%?
Is, are they, you know, our American kids, intrinsically, inherently, genetically more lazy and disobedient?
No, we've poisoned the food supply.
This is something adults did to children.
Maybe we need to talk about school lunch programs.
Maybe we need to talk about treating diabetes with cooking classes, not just putting every person on insulin.
And we've got to talk about the environmental exposures that cause general body inflammation and obesity, not just chemotherapy.
But there's no money in this.
There's money in new medicine.
There's no money and everybody getting healthy.
So during COVID, Doc, you and I talked a lot about group think within the medical establishment.
And I think that's its own conversation.
It's one that you and I have had.
On this, there's also clearly and obviously a group think.
I'm curious.
So how much of this group think, though, is captured by financial incentive?
Like, doctors don't make money if they get everybody healthy.
Now, I don't think any particular doctor is sitting out there on a day to.
basis going like it's like a mechanic right like a mechanic needs cars to break down or he doesn't
have a living you know you can't just i'm going to make sure no car ever breaks down again i don't
think that's motivating individual doctors but i do think there's a and this is how i brought up
covid another role at play where the pharmaceutical industry can help influence the existence
of a group think when it comes to how we deal with covid and we're not interested in issues like
ivermectin that don't that don't fall under our our patent umbrella but
But in this particular case, how much of the medical establishment is commandeered by Big Food?
All of these giant food industries have created the group think within medicine.
Well, Big Food basically wrote our Food Pyramid.
And when the government tried to revise it last year, they said Lucky Charms was healthier than a steak.
So Big Food has had a big hand in a lot of the health recommendations.
There's no nutrition taught at medical school.
And the little that is taught is mostly misinformation.
based on the NIH's old, you know, food understanding.
And I agree with you.
Doctors are good people.
I love them.
I love being a doctor.
And I don't think anyone is diabolic or wants people to be sick.
But we've done a terrible thing to doctors.
We've allowed pharma to control the research enterprise.
So all the discussion is only about drugs, right?
There's only a little mild lip service to these other giant issues in our blind spots.
And we've done a terrible thing to doctors in this country, well, we've told them, put your head down, focus on billing and coding and short visits, and we're going to measure you by your throughput.
And we've not given doctors the time or resources or research infrastructure to address the root causes.
So when you hear about, oh, Medicare can now negotiate the prices of six generic drugs, great.
You know what?
That's $6 billion in an expanding $200 billion a year expansion of our 4.5.
trillion dollar health care system these are issues around the periphery they're shiny objects it's
not to say they don't have merits we need to talk about the root causes of our chronic disease
epidemic and that means looking in our blind spots which in this case you're talking about
specifically focused on food if if money here's my final thing it's off of blind spots but it's
always been a curiosity of mine and i know it doesn't necessarily fall under the gastrointestinal
specialty, although maybe it does if we track everything back to the micro biome, is if capitalism
drives everything and money talks in medicine, I still can't figure out why they haven't cured baldness.
Like that is a multi-trillion dollar market ready for someone to exploit. If you can just figure it out,
you'll be as rich as the man that cures cancer because vanity, this is why Ozympic is blowing up,
because vanity is a powerful motivational force, and they've shown men care more about baldness
than any other specific medical condition.
So why hasn't money solved baldness?
Well, I think, actually, we have solved a lot of baldness,
but people are just not aware of monoxidil, red light therapy, even...
Really?
Yeah, plasma therapy.
There are some hair specialists.
If you get beyond this sort of corny commercial stuff and actually talk to some real experts,
there's...
Baldness is entirely preventable with men.
of the modern day techniques. And this field is actually growing quickly.
Oh, I want to get that expert on. I may lead on you for who the expert is because I'm just
fascinated by that. But I am fascinated by food. And I'm trying to become not an idiot. And I'm
hoping, although I don't make most of the choices my wife does, and she cares about this
as well. We're making the right choices for our kids. And I agree with you. By the way, before I
let you go, because I was about to say, well, hope we find the politician that can help us move
this direction. Do you think we have that politician? Look, Dr. Robert Redfield, former of the CDC,
he said RFK's on the right path with Make America Healthy again. And I think he's now endorsed Donald
Trump. Where are you on like RFK and I guess Trump's approach to health care?
Look, no one has been willing to tackle big food, big ag, and big pharma and talk about our food
supply until now. So I did testify next to RFK Jr. in front of a Senate roundtable on Monday
with Casey Means and Cali Means.
And we're seeing momentum we've never seen before.
We've got a thousand ingredients in the U.S. food supply that are banned in Europe.
Somebody needs to start talking about our poison food supply.
So there's some exciting momentum right now, and I hope it turns into some real changes
because we're not headed down a good path otherwise.
Well, you can keep this momentum going by checking out blind spots,
the new book by Dr. Marty McCarrie.
Okay, I'll eat crow.
That'd be good.
of just desserts. I'll eat crow, get my protein on the Baltimore Ravens this weekend. Dr. McCarrie,
and I appreciate you being on the show as always. It's enlightening. Thank you so much.
Great to see you. Well, thanks.
All right. There you go. Dr. Martin McCarray, I really do encourage you. I mean, like, if I give
recommendations, you know, often, I'll say, but like this is, this is a big deal. It really is.
If you have kids, but also for your own health. And I feel like I've experienced some of this,
not intellectually, but almost like with human experimentation on myself over the past
couple of months, I just think that someone who's willing, I'm not skeptical of doctors on an
individual basis. I'm skeptical of doctors being captured by exactly what he thinks,
group think, and then reinforcing, you know, one thing doctors do lack is humility.
And so reinforcing that with a lack of humility when they all think the same thing.
And so when you find a gym like Dr. McCarrie who seems to be, and there are others, right,
there were a lot of guys who were truth tellers during COVID that you feel like are coming at this
from a position of authentic truth seeking, I think you've got to gravitate to them.
So I think you got to gravitate to blind spots by Dr. Marty McCarrie.
All right, it's not medicine.
I don't know if it's phrenology.
You know, they put their fingers on your head in the old days and figure out who you are.
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All important day
of Pennsylvania.
Are you wearing
an Argentina jersey, David?
I am wearing
an Argentina jersey.
I can't see you,
by the way,
but I am indeed wearing.
I've been a fan of Argentina
since 1990.
And things have been going
well lately.
Well, how American?
How better to be
in touch with the Americans
than for you to be
sporting
from Argentina jersey today?
You see a lot of Argentina jersey
out there, man.
You know,
it's on the big soccer fan.
Would you rather talk about that?
That was beautiful as an Eagles fan
Because the only thing better than the Cowboys
Getting blown out is when they give you guys
Like that false glimmer of hope
And that game had both
It was really, it was a thing of beauty.
It did, it did
That comeback in the fourth quarter
You know, I would advise Jerry Jones this
If he's listening or anyone related to Jerry Jones.
You're playing with fire.
The fire is I didn't get that mad.
I didn't, my expectations, man, are jacked, you know?
it's like I'm I'm beyond the point of like exasperation or mad it just is this is what it is
now it's a 17 game season but I've said this man you better be careful because once I
stop getting mad the next day just stopped caring and that's the worst thing that can happen
for an owner in sports yeah yeah well you know it's funny I watched Catholics versus convicts
last night the 30 for 30 and you know Jimmy Johnson came right out of Miami and into
I just it's so brought me back to like because I
hate Miami as much as I hate the
Cowboys. And it was just like, it was just sort of like
the joy of sports hatred.
It was, it was nice.
Well, you're, you're, you're, you're an Eagles fan.
So you guys can't discern the difference between loving
the Eagles and hating the Cowboys, the same thing.
No, it's all the same.
So you'll,
all right, David,
by the way, on the soccer note, you know,
I adopt, for what it's worth.
I'm having fun. I adopt foreign teams,
like during Euro 2024, whatever.
I start, I root for Belgium.
It has nothing to do with culture. It has to do with just
in one player. I like, I like their best player a lot.
Rodio Ococo?
No, Kevin DeBroina.
I love Kevin DeBrona. Yeah.
He's great. So I'll forgive you. I'll forgive you for wearing Argentina.
So tell me about Pennsylvania. I know you were in Hershey specifically. What did you hear from the people?
So it's interesting. You know, I spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania because it really is sort of,
I mean, it really looks like that's what it's coming down to, right? And Pennsylvania, part of the
reason that it is a swing state, part of the reason that it's a bell weather, I mean, it's
called the Keystone state, is that it's, the regions differ so much, right? And so Hershey is
very near to Harrisburg, state capital, so you have a lot of government employees, which
tends to skew a little more blue. But it's also big union country where we've seen that
Harris is having some problems. And what I'm starting to sense in PA from the, you know,
the people that I've spoken to is that there are voters who were interested in voting for
Biden who seemed far less interested in voting for Harris. And I don't know that that's something.
I think the Democrats kind of assumed that everyone who was predisposed to vote for Biden
was just going to go along once Harris became the nominee. And I think we're starting to see
from sort of some of that teamsters polling. I think when you look at the Gallup or it was
Gallup or Pugh that had the polling of party affiliation, that she's losing some of these
moderate, almost conservative Pennsylvania Democrats. And I think that's causing a problem for her.
I think that's why you see her there a lot. And I don't think Tim Walts is fixing it.
Hmm. Hmm. Not the blue collar man winning over the union vote. I did see that clip. I think it was an
MSNBC focus group where I think it was on MSNBC they were interviewing guys who are all like
union workers I think it was in Pennsylvania no it might have been Michigan and they were asking
them all you know how do you feel and one thing I saw them as about January 6th and I think
I think that those guys all reflected the sentiment that I feel like is common in America which is
okay I enough like I don't even know um I don't like what I
saw, but I'm not outraged, and it's certainly not going to be a deciding factor for me in my
vote. And they were kind of shocked, the MSNBC interviewer, that this was the opinion of the union
worker in Michigan. I never hear about January 6th. I mean, almost never. You know, when I'm
talking to voters, they're bringing up the economy, they're bringing up crime, they're bringing up
the border, they're bringing up abortion. You notice that about three, four months ago we were
always seeing these, in the polls of what issues do people care about you, threat to democracy
was always there it's not there anymore right you never see it uh it you know it right
just kind of disappeared um and so yeah i i i don't think that there's any uh i don't think
that's going to the only time i hear about it i'll hear about it from committed leftists who are like
you know trump wants to be a dictator i'll also hear about it from people on the right who feel that the
j6 prisoners are being mistreated but for 90 percent of of the people i talk to it's not even on
on the radar of what they're worried about and you know bringing it back bringing it back a little
bit to Pennsylvania and and this question of sort of like waltz and vance and because both of
them are meant to appeal to these kinds of blue collar workers i'm starting to get the feeling
that this white dudes for harris thing um which i i just find so creepy and gross and weird
and race-obsessed.
But I don't think it's actually intended to convince white men to vote for Harris.
I think it is a wink and a signal to the progressive left that if elected, Harris will put
white men in their place, whatever you mean that to be.
And so it's clearly falling flat, right?
Like, I have not talked to a single person who's a single white guy who's like, yeah,
this white guy for Harris stuff.
Like, I'm really, I mean, it just, it doesn't exist.
And so I really think it's serving a different purpose.
Just like I think not going to the Al Smith dinner is sort of serving that purpose of
winking to progressives and saying, yeah, I have to say this centrist stuff to get elected,
just like Obama had to pretend to be against gay marriage, but I don't mean any of this.
I'm really going to stick it to the oppressor.
But I understand that you've also picked up this, tell me if I'm wrong, well, January 6th isn't
something you hear.
here. I have been told you're hearing about Project 2025, though. Oh, a lot. Yeah. I mean,
it's ubiquitous. I was very happy to see, well, I was mixed emotions, right? Because one of the
things that I tweeted out yesterday going into that ridiculous MSNBC interview with Stephanie
rule was the test here will be, is she going to call out Harris on the lies about Project
2025 because Trump has nothing to do with it? That's just true. CNN.
did a fact check and said that Harris has been misleading and lying to voters about Project
2025. So I was curious if Rule would call her out on that. And of course, she didn't. But if you
notice, it didn't come up. And I think the lie now has been called out, right? The idea that
Trump has anything to do with Project 2025 has to be treated like very fine people. It has to be
treated like bloodbath. It's, it's just a lie. But over the past month, well, yeah, I mean,
everywhere I went, uh, especially among Harris voters and some independents. I mean, I, I'd say,
well, you know, project 2025 is so dangerous. And I'd say, do you know like what's in it?
And they're like, well, it's like a blueprint to take away rights for like abortion and all
this. You know, it's 900 pages long. Nobody knows what's in it. I think the only people who
bothered to read it are, you know, democratic political operatives who are pulling out, you know,
little nasty bits to take out of context.
But to be clear, David, you're not hearing that just from committed leftist.
You're hearing that from independent.
So that line of attack about Project 2025, if you're hearing it from independence tells me
that's effective from Harris.
Oh, it's absolutely been effective.
I mean, and it's key because, you know, as I wrote in my column yesterday, this is a very curious
campaign from Harris in which she insists that she doesn't stand for or believe any of the
things that she did just three and a half years ago. And she's not particularly interested in
telling us what the new stuff is. So really the only thing that she has to run on is this idea
that Trump's going to be a fascist dictator on day one, you know, after he gets sworn in on a copy
of Project 2025. So I do think calling that lie out as much as possible. I think Fox has done a good job
I've seen almost everybody on the channel sort of address it this way.
But people need to know that it has nothing to do with Trump.
And hopefully that's starting to happen.
But it's been a very effective tool thus far in the campaign.
Interesting.
All right.
You can read his stuff at Fox News.com.
He's filing reports from across the country as we get close to a month left to Election Day
to hear exactly where they are in American, and specifically in these battleground states.
That's the question that everybody needs to be asking and David's looking for the answers.
David Marcus here on the Wilcane show.
Thanks, David.
Thanks, Will.
Have a good one.
All right, we'll check in with David again next week.
All right, so let's see now.
I took this personality quiz.
Joey Jones yesterday said this is something they give to veterans in the pursuit of self-awareness,
but also to help you kind of understand how to gear your strengths towards your career
and maybe even be more aware of your weaknesses.
I did mine.
I just read it for the audience at the top of the Will Cane Show.
come back as a debater. In short, a smart and curious thinker who cannot resist an intellectual
challenge, my weaknesses along with that, follow through, perhaps some blunt discourse, and some
abrasiveness or conflict with authority. So I think it's pretty fair. There's 16 of them here,
and as I was scrolling through, I was like, am I a debater? Like, I'm not like I like I like
debating, but I don't know if I want to be a debater. You know, like, here's one. Commander.
Oh, I like the sound of that. Bold, a magistrate of strong-willed leaders always finding a way or making
one. I read it, you know, maybe not me. Protagonist, charismatic and inspiring leaders able to
mesmerize listeners. That sounds nice. I read it. Not me. I'll tell you one thing. This category,
sentinels, okay? This is logisticians, defenders, executives, and consoles.
I'm never getting that.
Now, I'm going to how many times I take this test?
I'm not one of these people.
These are all introverted,
or almost all introverted people
who are in touch with their emotions.
And then I wanted to be, you know,
like here's under the category of explorers,
entrepreneur and adventurer.
But truthfully, like I read adventure,
and I'm like, not me.
It isn't me.
Now, I'm not sure, tinfoil,
that I'm perfectly a debater,
but it probably is the,
the widest,
stroke of the pie chart
in putting me in one of these 16
personality characteristics. I'm
curious, did all three of you
take this? I know tinfoil did.
I know James did. Justin, did you take this test?
I'm working on it as we speak, actually.
All right, where are you right now? What's the question for you?
Your favor in,
you favor efficiency and decisions,
even if it means disregarding some emotional
aspects. I kind of disagree with that.
And then there's a scale.
There's a scale, though, from agree to disagree
where you can sort of like say how far to one side or the other are you?
So what are you on that, Justin?
Like slight disagree.
So you care about people's feelings as, you know, maybe more so than efficiency?
I tow the line.
Yeah, I've been going kind of back and forth with those questions, yeah.
Okay, give me the next one.
I'm curious.
What's the next one?
You prefer to do chores before allowing yourself to relax.
Yeah, I agree with that.
All right.
You do?
Mm-hmm.
So, like, on a Saturday,
you're picking up the house
before you chill to watch college football.
A thousand percent.
Good for you.
Yeah, because I feel like I have like peace of mind after.
Yeah, I get it.
I get why.
I can't do it.
Yeah.
So why?
Patrick, are you, you're not,
you don't get your chores done first.
No.
I'm a procrastinator.
And it asks questions about like
what's your workspace like.
Is it disorganized or organized?
It asks a lot about,
social situations. Do you introduce yourself to people? Do you sit kind of alone? All these kind of
questions. I bet your workspace is an absolute travesty, tinfoil. It's actually not too bad right now
because I have to go on the TV. Can that camera be flipped? Yeah. I mean, not really.
What did you come? Patrick, what did you come back as? What is your personality type?
I am a turbulent I-N-T-P. So pretty much like you, except
introverted, which is probably why we work together. So which category does that put you in?
Which one does that put you in? So that's the top one, uh, analysts.
An analyst. A logician. Yeah.
Logician. Innovative inventors with an unquenchable thirst for knowledge.
Yeah, they are I instead of E. Introverted instead of extroverted. Yeah, you're an introvert.
I mean, you're, I would guess you're one of the most introverted people that I know.
I literally scored 99%.
You did?
Yeah.
I think we all could have guessed based upon your camera appearances on TV.
James, what did you get?
They gave me executive, which was E-S-T-J-A.
Very extroverted thinking.
Oh, you're in one of the categories that I have not at all.
The sentinels.
It says you are an excellent administrator,
unsurpassed at managing things or people.
Oh, really?
Unsurpassed managing things.
Young establishment, James, we'll have to dig into that.
I just answered, I'm going to click on this.
Let's just answer the questions.
We're going to need him to step it up on the rundowns and stuff.
I want to see James' strengths and weaknesses.
Here's his strengths.
dedicated, strong-willed, direct and honest, loyal, patient, and reliable, enjoy creating
order, and an excellent organizer.
You think that's you, James?
Marginally.
Some of it, I don't know.
Some of the top ones, sure.
Here's the question is difficult.
As Justin is taking this, here's what's hard.
Answering it the way you want to see yourself versus the way that you are.
That is the most difficult part of this, being honest with yourself about how you
answer these questions. Here's James weaknesses. Inflexible and stubborn, uncomfortable with change,
judgmental, too focused on social status. Establishment. Difficulty relaxing, difficulty expressing
emotion. Yeah, that's all fair. I've never seen much emotion. Yeah, I don't think you're too rocky
on the emotional side. Wow. Clip that. All right, Justin, have you finished? Have you come back yet?
Almost there. I'm at like 92%.
92% all right
i want to know what you are just before this show is out
i'm also curious what two of days dan is he's on his honeymoon right now in mexico
i think he'll take this on the beach i'm kind of
we can make him do it right now yeah we should
sure i'm sure he's not doing it to him
if he's doing it after a couple of margaritas he might be honest
speaking of
the crow i've had to eat today
from both david marcus and dr marty mccary
the cowboys play tonight
against the Giants in Thursday night football.
If the Cowboys lose this game,
we are talking about DefCon 1.
We are talking about horrific consequences,
Mike McCarthy on the hot seat,
not making it to the end of the season.
This is an absolute must-win game for Mike McCarthy.
And I'm not 100% confident they're going to win.
I am a little confident.
But when you can't stop
the run, you could lose to anybody. You could lose to absolutely anybody. So, you know, we've
been talking about this. I've been talking about it, so I haven't announced to these guys. At some
point, we've got to start going live. Okay, that's the next thing we're going to do on the
Wilcane show. After debates, after cowboy games, live on YouTube, a live show reacting to big
events. You ready to start producing that, Mr. Executive? Sure. Let's just pop on Zoom and
throw it out. Let's just plow it right through, plow it right through the bureaucracy. I don't
charge ahead. Don't even know why they're, don't care about the emotions. Why would we need
permission for this? What's the, what's the risk? I'm not asking for any big technological hurdles.
Yeah, I want to go live, not tonight. I'm not going to do it yet. I want to go live after
cowboy games. I want to go live after the vice presidential debate. I want to start doing some of that
stuff um all right so now mr analyst and mr executive let's execute okay everyone knows from my thing
that's the that's the big idea but i have bad follow through so i need people around me to follow
through that's how we make a i have a follow through too this isn't going to work well that's bad news for you
one of us can't stay i know well i mean i still i still yeah i like i go against
my personality
100%
every day
like it's just
a constant battle
against who I really am
you know
but that's
really
because you'd rather
just be home alone
yes
what you are
doing talking to nobody
having to not see
anything through
to its conclusion
pretty much
just thinking of ideas
just thinking them
just thinking them
I write them down sometimes
I'm guilty of that is
yeah that's what I
I'm probably equally as guilty of that flaw.
All right, Justin, let's want us to put a button on this.
What are you?
All right.
So my personality type is architect.
It's I-N-T-J-T.
Oh, that's a good one.
Architect.
Let's see if Justin's somebody I need around the show on a regular basis.
He's just filling in here for Dan.
The architect.
These are intellectually curious individuals.
How do we all get that?
That doesn't make any sense.
and deep-seated thirst for knowledge.
This is repetitive.
They tend to value creative ingenuity,
straightforward rationality, and self-improvement.
You have a pioneering spirit, Justin.
I'll give you DJing.
You have a thirst for knowledge.
Social frustrations.
Now we're getting interesting.
You're not known for being warm and fuzzy.
They tend to prioritize rationality and success
over politeness and pleasantries.
You'd rather be right than popular.
well that's that's that's good stuff
depends on the setting you miss out on social practices
like small talk and white lies
that's fun
if justin's incapable of giving white lies
you should ask them all kinds of uncomfortable questions
how was your day
Justin
what do you think of your wife
she's great she's the best
it's true
okay it's not a white lie
Uh, people with your personality, Justin, are full of contradictions.
They are imaginative yet decisive.
Oh, here we go.
Ambitious yet private, curious, yet focused from the outside.
You seem baffling.
I think so.
I get some baffling from you.
Sure.
Um, but they make perfect sense once you understand their inner workings.
Life for you is a giant game of chess.
Oh, that makes me nervous.
How am I getting played by Justin?
I'm not an evil mastermind, I swear.
All right, you can take it.
It's at 16 personalities.com.
No sponsorship.
I don't even know who these people are,
but I am curious and interested in this.
In the same way,
I'm interested in the five families of New York
and the cartels of Mexico.
You put anything into categories,
and I'm in,
let me see which category,
which drug cartel,
which American mafia family
is stereotyped by X, Y, or Z.
So you can take it
at 16 personalities.com.
That's going to do it for me today.
Tomorrow's Canon Sports Addiction of the Wilcane Show.
Bob Lee, formerly of ESPN, the legend,
the general, Bob Lee on the Will Cane Show.
I'll see you then.
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