Will Cain Country - Enes Kanter’s WNBA Protest Set Off a Player — Then He Got Tossed (ft. Aaron Berg)
Episode Date: August 24, 2026Enes Kanter was just EJECTED from a WNBA game after a spat with Natasha Cloud, and the silence from the league couldn’t be louder. Comedian Aaron Berg joins the show to break down the WNBA’s lates...t hypocrisy, and whether civil defamation law could be the solution to the TikTok induced mass hysteria surrounding the Lindsay Clancy trial.Plus, Aaron explains why New York City’s comedy scene still reigns supreme, and reacts to Hasan Piker’s cringeworthy mockery of “We Are Charlie Kirk.”Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Aaron Berg is a comedian.
He's the co-host of the SDR show and Modern Day Man.
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What's up, Aaron?
I'm good, man. How are you?
Dude, the intro is so good. It's good to have you on the program.
I got to say this. You look lean and mean.
You are shredded. You are diced. I saw Tyrus blowing.
I mean, Tyrus was in here telling you that 7 to 8 pounds.
It shows, dude. I don't know why you're wearing a shirt.
There's no reason.
There's no reason for you to be clothed from the waist up.
Dude, you look like a walking peptide ad.
I want to test you for PEDs right now.
You are so good looking.
If I bumped into you in an equinox, I would have to go to a pride parade, dude.
You are on fire today, Will.
You are hot.
What is happening?
I'm just telling the truth.
How much should you pay you?
200 bucks, $300, $300?
I'm just telling the truth.
Dude, you are so duff.
Oh, my gosh, you are looking good, man.
Good on you.
I don't know if you did fasted cardio this morning.
I don't know if you're on a GLP 1, GLP 2, GLP 3.
Prep.
I don't know what you're taking, but you are so on fire.
Pete Davidson's dad should be inside of you.
Not even sure I get that last one, but it's something.
Oh, what?
Did Pete Davidson?
You don't?
I don't get that.
It was a 9-11 reference.
Oh, God, you can't.
I did.
That's what I did.
That's why there was so much kindness prior to that.
You look great, dude.
Yeah, that was all, was that all set up for that?
No, I have, that's how pro does it.
That's how pro does it.
I have horrifically inappropriate.
I have no idea what's going to pop out of my head, but you look so good, dude.
I cannot believe you are 51.
I cannot believe you served in the moment.
the war of 1812.
You look so good, dude.
You look so, and it was Tyrus telling you, and I'm like,
Tyrus looks okay.
I look great.
You look phenomenal, dude.
You and I should do a decathlon.
He must have heard that.
Aaron must have watched some of that episode with Tyrus,
heard that and threw up in his mouth.
And he's like, I know what I'm going to do.
Instead of throwing up in my mouth,
I'm going to come on and I'm going to lather it on thick.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm telling you, you look good.
I'm going to throw up.
I'm going to throw up peptide compliment.
all over. Dude, you need a string tank top
and a banana hammock. You should not be wearing this Banana Republic
gear that you got on right now. You need to be scantily
clad. Banana Republic. He's not wrong, Will. I mean, the people want to see
you shirtless. Yeah. I mean, they didn't get it this year.
What is going on? What is happening here? What is just going on?
You're not going to do it. I'm not going to take my shirt off. I'm not even going to go
one more button down. Will, I'm not going to do that. I'm telling you this. You're asking for it,
the way you're dressed and you used to hear it on Madison Avenue back in the 50s and 60s,
you are asking for you can't bring this eye candy around people and then expect us to act
all diabetic. Start showing skin. You could have like a million followers already. Yep. You know that?
A million followers. That's, man, that's giving it away for cheap. If I were going to do something like
that, I'm on only fans. I mean, I'm, you know, there are things in,
life that you have to, if you're a rational human being, get curious about. And I think at this
point, we all have to be curious about peptides. You got to get on it. Yeah. And I don't know,
I don't know who Sophie Rain was talking to. There was some comedian, some podcast about what she's
making on on Onlyfans. Wild. And I know it's Sophie Rain, and I know she's just one. But there's a
ton. And they're making so much on Onlyfans. And how can you criticize at some point? Like,
there are somebody out there. And that's what
she was saying. She was like, there is, there are people out there for everyone. And I guess you
just monetize your relationship. You know, meaning, you know, Aaron, they're giving it away for cheap.
There's somebody, a lot of people, who are into whatever it is uniquely you can offer them.
Sure. Just charge them 10 bucks a month. So you're saying foot stuff primarily. But here's my
argument on this. I say foot. I know what you're hitting towards foot stuff. Here's
my argument. There should be shame. There should still be shame. People should not have to sell
their bodies. They should be able to do something intellectual or creative and not just debase
themselves. That's my stance on it. I am not a big porn guy. I'm more of a small porn guy,
but, you know, I'm not a huge advocate of it. And I do have an issue with it. I do not. Do you have
daughters? Do you have a wife? You wouldn't want them doing this. Now,
The money's enticing, though.
Yeah, the money's enticing.
But look at Will.
Will could go on one of those, you know, LGBT apps and probably make $150,000 today.
By noon, we could be at brunch having mimosa somewhere in Texas and him foot in the bill, but I'm not saying he needs to.
Can you imagine?
Like, I can't do both, but I can only have one or the other.
Like, Fox News host with homoerotic LGBTQ.
Only fans, I guarantee that thing would rock it.
I guarantee.
There'd be hate subscribers, right?
The fact that I am a Fox person would make it more appealing, like more taboo.
It would be former Fox host, LGBTQ only fans.
I don't know if I could attach myself to you.
Market that.
You also have to be willing to beat Jimmy Farah to the punch on this.
Because I guarantee you Jimmy's got to get on it fast.
Jimmy's got fast.
Like getting it.
Working with the jackets.
Jimmy with the jacket and just his boots.
And nothing else.
Patrick, you're doing like a Patrick.
Are you doing a Patrick Bateman thing today?
What's what you're doing?
It took me back during Aaron's rant of compliments.
I looked up and I flinched a little bit because I was like, what's going on with the slick back hair?
It's really hot and the humidity just hasn't let my hair dry.
Right.
So it's.
All right.
So Patrick's big on accountability.
You said something really interesting about shame.
You know, you're right.
Like, what are we shameful of at all anymore?
Like, shame was a cultural check on behavior in society, not just in the realm of porn and selling your body, but in a multitude of different ways that we behave.
And really, there's no shame check.
There's no, there's no shame check in society of, of any sort, right?
What do we have?
Is there a shame?
No.
Is there anything that we're, shame?
But if you try to shame someone, then you're like a bigot or you're a horrible person.
No doubt.
Yes, you're the bad guy.
Yeah, literally.
Without a doubt.
Judgment is, judgment is mean and therefore shame would be even a meaner step than judgment.
Yeah.
Anything goes except judgment.
Isn't that amazing?
Right.
So far we've come.
It's a troubling time.
I'm looking for these societal checks.
Patrick, I don't, or Dan, I don't think you got this clip.
So I've been thinking about a lot about all these people saying everything on the internet.
And Lindsay Clancy is the big part of it right now.
And I sent this to you guys this morning.
Did you see this lawyer who's going through TikTok feeds?
And he's seeing what these women are saying about,
the conspiracies and the theories that they're spinning and putting culpability on other people.
And I was thinking about, all right, I'm a First Amendment absolutist, pretty much, pretty close to
First Amendment absolutists.
I think most people probably on the screen right now would, except for Dan, maybe, would say that
they are pretty close to First Amendment absolutist.
Yes.
But there are other checks on saying whatever the hell you want to say other than government
intervention, shame being one of those.
Like, can you believe so-and-so said that?
therefore they have to face the shame of society.
But this is actually where lawyers come in.
This is where the civil justice system has value.
Like these lawyers are going to file civil libel cases
against people saying complete bullshit, scandalous, libelous, slanderous, defamatory bullshit on the internet.
I think this is a great check.
I called a buddy of mine who's a plaintiff's attorney and I'm like, dude, you should start gathering these cases up.
Now the trick is
On what charges?
Random TikTok
liable.
It's not criminal.
It's not charges.
It's civil.
You sue them for defamation.
You sue them.
Because you can't just say anything out there.
Now the trick is how much money does she have?
So I'm saying she because take random TikToker who's now said not only did the husband do it.
Did you see this latest one?
But his best buddy.
Yeah.
he's the one that was at the grocery store while the husband was killing the kids.
And it's like, that's defamation, man.
You just called me a murderer or an accomplice to murder.
Now, does she have any money?
That's what the lawyer's going to say.
What am I going to get out of her?
But that's the, we need an army of lawyers ready.
I can't believe I'm saying this.
I'm not sure I 100% believe it.
But ready to hold people accountable for defamation.
I would love if that could happen.
But let me ask you this.
Was this woman TikToker
my wife?
Because I'm a little concerned
because she's watching this trial
on an endless loop
to the degree where...
Same my wife's friends.
Really?
Yeah, yeah. All of them.
I mean, this is like a telenovela for these women.
When a woman kills, allegedly,
is that, am I supposed to say allegedly?
I think so.
My wife literally thinks...
Right now. Right now.
My wife thinks it was the husband
because of the shoe change.
That's what she's saying, the shoe change.
And then I got back.
I was in Bermuda for a week
because white privilege is amazing.
And I went on the internet
and I was like, oh my God, everybody.
Hey, Aaron, you might have gone to Bermuda White,
but you didn't come back.
Thank you.
I'm ready for Cinco de Julio.
But I don't know.
So we know it was the woman.
Is that what we're saying?
Well, we're saying, Lindsay.
Clancy, allegedly.
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She doesn't even, it's not part of her defense that I didn't do it.
She said she did it.
There's like, she did it.
It's just an insanity defense.
But now we're at a point where it's like postpartum.
Does your wife really, does your wife really think maybe that she didn't do it?
So does my wife's friends.
I had to convince them otherwise.
Like literally, these sane people that I know.
are convinced still
Because the shoe change.
Did you see the headline
of the dude that broke off his wedding
because he found out on Friday?
His fiance
Run,
that is a man right there.
Dude, to be like,
we have different values
because of this trial
and the mother of my kids.
He doesn't even have kids yet.
This guy's nuts too.
I didn't explain that away.
Dude, I love it.
You think I could.
do it now 10 years in our 10 year
anniversaries in two weeks. Can I go, we have
differing opinions because you think this man did
it? Just a power shift in the relationship.
I gotta go. I gotta go for more massages
at the Korean place. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
You have some IOU cards now.
I'm about to live. I'm getting tired
of people saying Patrick did it so, Will.
Will, you talk about
how feminism has defeated everything,
but it's like women are the
cornerstone of every news
story now. The WNBA
is blown up to the point where it is literally more newsworthy than the NBA because of the insanity
that's happening.
Women are defending a woman murderer.
It's insane.
And you're like, what have they not beaten yet?
And I'll tell you what they haven't beaten yet.
Men in its entirety.
The notion of man has yet to be fully taken down.
and that's what feminists are fighting against now.
To take down.
Oh, that's okay, okay, to take down.
I want to tell you why I said that.
Okay, I know sometimes I say things in the tease,
and, you know, I thought about it after I said it,
and I thought, you know, we have a lot of women listeners,
and there's, like, I'm getting some pushback.
I am.
Here, I'm going to read you a couple of comments.
Will, I've been watching you since you were on ESPN.
I don't know what you got against Clancy,
but comparing her to Susan,
Susan Smith is wrong. It's rotten apples and oranges. Please get your act together. And then, you know, and I'm like, why are, and we have a lot of women viewers and listeners. And I don't feel like I'm making, I'm not making a gender judgment. They're forcing it to be a gender judgment. This is a person, regardless of gender, that killed three children. There's no reverse engineering that into any type of.
sympathy for me. I don't have sympathy. If it was a dude claiming, and I know the response,
well, dudes don't get postpartum psychosis or postpartum depression. And I say that because we've
made it clear. She didn't have postpartum depression. She's claiming postpartum psychosis,
which should differentiate it for anybody that feels some type of sympathy or empathy because
they might have experienced something similar. But I don't, I think that this doesn't,
have anything to do with gender until you force it that.
Until you force it to be about gender.
This is a murderer.
Yeah. Period.
Oh, I know I was going to say. I say things in the T's.
I'm trying to find the...
Patrick, I said it this morning this tweet.
It's by Peachie Keenan.
And she wrote about feminism and women have conquered everything.
Why can't I find it?
Because I didn't include it.
While you look for that, can I read a comment someone just sent me?
God Will looks hot
How much weight has he lost?
He is absolutely shredded
Why does he still have a shirt on?
No one cares about Lindsay Clancy
Yeah, half the women in the chat
Just want to see your shirt off of it.
Let's see Will's six pack
That's disturbing.
Will you respond to that one for me?
Yep.
Will you just respond
DM will directly.
DM's open.
Directly sent.
Okay.
I mean, he won't get back to you,
but they're open.
That's right.
That's true, Patrick.
Here's what Pitchie Keenan wrote.
Why are so many women so angry?
They won.
They got everything they wanted.
Men have never been doing this badly, and women have never been doing this well.
They make more.
They have the majority of jobs.
They're the majority of college graduates.
UCLA undergrad is 60% female.
They make more money.
They have much lower rates of suicide, addiction, and alcoholism, and they live longer.
They won.
They took over all men-only spaces.
They took over the Boy Scouts.
They ended men's bathrooms.
They can fly fighter planes and be in combat.
Marriage is optional.
Divorce is no fault.
They win 99% of custody battles.
They control fertility at will.
And they can't get drafted.
We're all living in the female future they promised.
And yet women are angry.
So that is what I was referencing in the tweet.
Kind of fascinating.
It is.
Do you think he's single?
Yeah.
That's a woman.
Oh.
That's a woman.
Wow.
Do you think she's single?
Yeah.
Not now.
Not now.
Not anymore.
I got in a fight over saying this.
I was like talking to my wife and her friends and I said,
what rights do men have that women don't?
And they were just like, well, you can't ask that.
You can't ask that.
What are you talking about?
Of course.
I was like, well, name them and nothing came up.
But to your point, Aaron, okay, so you're saying, well, ultimately it's about the destruction
of masculinity, I guess.
A lot of that's been accomplished.
A lot of that has actually been.
been accomplished. They have achieved everything. So like, so you're on top of the world.
Yeah. You're on top of the world. Yeah, women have it great. What's left?
The president, that's it? Yeah. And the president of the United States.
I guess. Yeah. And that won't happen for at least 60 years.
60? Yeah. And it's going to be, you know who it's going to be. How dare you? That's who it's going to be.
when she's 70 years old.
Who's that?
What's her name?
You see?
Who?
Casey Musgraves?
How dare you?
How dare you?
Oh, Greta Thunberg?
Greta Thunberg.
Yeah.
Oh.
She'll have blue hair for a different reason.
No, she'll find.
No, she's not American, but maybe we'll get that switched up to.
Oh, sure.
Well, that won't matter.
That won't matter.
How dare you?
How dare you?
How dare you vote Republican?
How dare you vote?
dare you.
Do you have Casey Musgraves dropping down in sparkly balls?
I do.
Okay, so for the people at home,
this country singer Casey Musgraves.
Nice.
And she's on, yeah, she's dropping down on a set of disco balls.
Truck nuts.
Truck nuts.
They're clearly truck nuts.
Those are truck nuts.
You see the circle at the top?
You know, it's clearly that.
were thinking, oh, she doesn't know that they look like testicles?
Of course she does.
Yeah.
She's on the joke.
They look like jellyfish balls.
You ever seen jellyfish balls up close?
It was translucent.
If you haven't, you haven't done.
Never.
You got to go snorkeling in Bermuda.
I saw him up close.
I give her credit on that.
It makes you love her, Dan, right?
Oh, my God.
I love her so much.
Did this make her go up in your book, Dan?
Brother.
She's everything
She's everything you want
She's kind of country
But not totally country
She's pretty lib
But not full lib
She's
You know
Excessibly hot
I think she's excessively hot
Yeah
You know
Not
Not inaccessible
I feel like I could sing a duet with her
She is raunchy
Yeah
She did like
Her last album was basically naked
And
Didn't mind it
Now Will
When you say
Accessibly hot
Is this
The new ripped
You say?
in that or is this old fat you from a couple weeks ago?
Well, you know, your accessibility metric changes over time.
That's correct.
That's what guys don't realize, right?
Right?
You guys have a hard time ever believing they're not the guy they were when they were 33.
So what was accessible to you at 33 just isn't anymore.
And you know it intuitively, like at a subconscious level, your algorithm changes.
But, you know, like the algorithm knows more about you than you.
It's like, oh, why is it feeding me late 40s?
You know?
It's not.
She is, I think she's just hot, but she's my opinion.
Casey's great.
Great voice, good entertainer.
Yeah, I mean, you should go for her.
You think about, Dan?
Yeah, well, my wife already knows.
Yeah.
It's the one hall pass I think I have.
Hall pass?
That's your hall pass?
That's my one.
All of them?
That's your hall pass?
Every single human woman, that's the one hall pass.
and my wife is like, okay.
Wow.
Really?
Would you need, like, would it have to include backstage passes or something for her?
Well, yeah, probably.
Yeah.
Dan, you played that wrong.
Have you ever seen that good meme about the hall pass?
You have in the conversation, she's like, my whole pass is Brad Pitt.
He's like, okay.
And she's like, legit.
If I get a chance with Brad Pitt, then we do hall pass.
She goes, and you can have one too.
What's your hall pass?
And he's like, oh, cool, the checkout girl at Starbucks?
Your friend Karen?
And she gets mad.
All right, Aaron brings up the WNBA.
Here's the scandal from over the weekend.
What do you have?
You have Enos Cantor?
Patrick, I want you narrate this, too.
Okay, so this is Enos Cantor, and there is a slew of folks from security at the arena,
and they are telling him he has to get the hell out right now because he's done some bad things.
So, no, so Enis is at the game.
And he's, looks like he's sitting in, like, the second row he's got into seats.
The only way, that's a bad video.
I don't know.
It's from far away.
He's second row.
He's wearing a shirt that says woman, like a dictionary definition.
It says a human adult female.
He's just sitting there.
And Natasha Cloud is playing.
I guess she sees him.
He didn't do anything that I could tell before.
And she goes, cheered.
He goes after him.
Put his arms in the air.
Yeah, I think he was like...
Put his arms in the air.
Because Sophie Cunningham
had hit a three-point shot.
Okay.
So Natasha Cloud
goes after him.
She's restrained.
He does, at that point,
continue to sort of taunt.
He's standing.
He maybe takes two steps forward
and then boom,
they're on him,
and he's booted from the stadium.
And he was heckled hard.
He was either before or afterwards,
outside the stadium by a bunch of people.
And that's your story from over the weekend.
Enos Cantor, Public Enemy Number One, now bleeding over onto the court.
And I will say, you know what?
Dave Portnoy went after Enos Cantor.
He said he's making it about him.
Yeah.
Yes.
I feel like it's complicated.
No.
Like I really like what he's doing because he's forcing the truth.
He's forcing the truth.
You think he's grifting, Dan?
Yeah, it screams, look at me, look at me.
I understand what he's doing and I get it, but it's solved nothing.
It did nothing except just disrupt a game.
It got no point across, the right point across.
Don't you think Natasha Cloud's anger says something?
No, it's distracting from the real point.
Not being able to tolerate his presence?
No, she shouldn't have done that either.
I mean, it was stupid, but just the whole thing just being like,
hey, I'm going to go there and make a big fuss.
And it distracts from what?
From any point that's actually trying to be made.
What's the point?
Exactly.
What are we talking about?
We're just talking about Anis Cantor making a big deal at a game.
That's it.
Nothing else.
I just thought you were really into the basketball.
I did watch an WMBA game last night.
No.
This guy texts us.
Aaron, he texts us and he goes, wow, Sophie Cunningham is great.
No, Caitlin Clark.
Or Caitlin Clark.
Yeah.
Caitlin Clark.
He would never say Sophie Cunningham.
No.
I'm like, dude, she's playing women.
She's playing women in basketball.
Of course she looks going to look good.
I mean, the numbers at the stadium look bigger than they used to be.
Like, it looks like whatever they're doing is working, and it's not good basketball.
But it's like, it's amazing how many people are going out to see these things now.
And I wonder if it's for the spectacle or for the fights or for the race baiting.
I have no idea.
But it's working.
I mean, that's way more people than I would expect to see at a WNBA game.
Yeah.
Man, we did this a week ago.
The all publicity is good publicity cliche.
It's proving to be true right now with the W.
We doubted it because we're like, you know, Kaepernick didn't help the NFL.
That didn't do anything to help.
This is, I think it's helping.
What Enos is doing?
I think Ennis can't turn.
All of it.
Yeah.
All of it, Dan.
Yeah.
I just missed last year.
I missed last year.
It's not doing what he thinks is doing.
No, it's doing the opposite.
It will over time.
I mean, it should be killing this league.
But it's amazing that I think that this is going to get them to the point where they're like, look, it's full in this arena.
We want more money.
This could all be an inside job.
This could all be a hoax.
This could be a CIA op where these WNBA players are just drawing attention to themselves to get more.
money. I mean, some of them are going to start getting more than minimum wage soon.
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They were doing that when the stadiums were empty.
Why don't we get paid to what LeBron gets paid?
I know.
Patrick loves this part.
Natasha Cloud, who went after Enos Cantor, is also...
By the way, the dildoes are back, right?
Of course they are.
Oh, you mean at the games?
Yeah, I thought you meant at my house.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
A little peek into your personal life.
The dildos are back.
Is this from recent dildo launchage, Patrick, or is this from old-school dildo launchage?
So we followed this, Aaron, heavily last year, and that's what I miss is, like, this Dildo Gate.
Yeah.
So this is a recent.
So this happened last.
Friday. By the way, a great way to
keep out bad neighbors. A dildo
gate. You just put one up
between you and the neighbors. No
one's touching it. Make it colorful. You got to keep the
property values down. The male lady won't
even come close to your house.
Dildo
gate. Don't touch it.
Don't touch it.
So you're
telling me what I'm about to hear from Natasha Cloud
is recent? Correct.
This is from, I believe, Thursday
night. And we
We didn't see it until later on Friday.
Okay.
Natasha Cloud is super pissed off that Enos Cantor wants to define a woman
and that he was going to come into the WNBA.
She's also upset that Dildo Gate is back.
And here is Natasha Cloud.
In most of these occasions, it's men.
And I want you to know that is the gayest thing that you can do.
Go to a store, a sex shop, buy a dildo, come to a woman's game
to throw the dildo on the court.
and it's gayest shit that I've ever heard.
So I'm a firm believer in anyone that has so much problem with a certain marginalized group,
just come out and say that you're a part of our marginalized group.
I disagree.
There's eight gayer things.
Oh, you love it, Dan.
Good for her.
Good for her.
That was hilarious because it's true.
Good for her.
There's so many gayer things.
Totally.
Want to know?
I saw this online today, a gayer thing, saying, but first coffee.
That's true.
Live, laugh, love, having one of those up in your house.
Going to an equinox and doing stuff with Anderson Cooper in the steam room.
These are all gayer things.
Got a case of the Mondays.
Getting your doctor to prescribe prep.
You think, Patrick, that it's funny Dan's take on this.
He's like, go girl.
Yeah.
No, it's just funny because it is.
Don't defend yourself.
Let Patrick go after you.
You think this shows intolerance from Natasha Cloud, right?
Oh, yeah.
I can't believe that she would dare go that way against a marginalized community.
Oh, no.
She's saying, come out.
She's saying, be proud.
Come out.
Be yourself.
But since when, Dan, is it?
No, it's okay.
She's using that as a pejorative.
It's not a slur.
She's using it as a slur.
She's saying maybe.
Yes, she is.
No, she thinks that maybe they actually are homosexual.
Yeah.
You know?
She said gay.
She's saying because she thinks it will offend them.
But you could say it because you are.
She's trying to offend them and using that.
You know, there's some words you could say if you are also.
You know what I'm saying?
Is she gay?
I believe so.
I guess so.
I mean, our voice.
Yeah, you felt a little weird because you didn't know.
I did you're like, I'm not 100% sure.
You felt a little weird and you didn't know when I put you to it.
That's what happened right there.
That's right.
that.
WNBA is just falling down a rabbit hole of contradictions.
If you can't rationalize your own thoughts, the woman thing, the gay thing, the more
popular now because of the controversy, this thing is a study in self-contradiction.
It's, what do you call that, psychotic?
It also seems reminiscent of like that wrestling mentality where it's turning
into like WWE like
and and which is good for it
like the women are able to say
more than the male athletes
like a male athlete would be in
a world of trouble if he said
something like that but the female
athletes are getting away with it and it's
selling them more tickets but it's also
nothing we're talking about is about basketball
none of these stories
are even remotely about
what's going on to the court like
it's nothing fascinating
well it's that whole thing
where it's like on Instagram, I'm going to spew
political rhetoric, but look at my
boobs while I feel it. Right. Yeah, exactly.
That's spot on. Yeah, exactly.
Caitlin Clark's pushed out of the headlines.
Your girl that you want to talk about
because you saw the basketball game. I want to talk about the game on the court.
Yeah, I want to talk about her shot, her ball knowledge,
her court awareness.
Caitlin Clark is the goat.
They got to make shoes for her.
I mean, dare I say, she's going to be better than,
Jordan.
Yeah.
Oh, you can say it.
And I'll vouch for it.
Yeah.
Appreciate that.
Yeah.
I back it up.
Definitely better than LeBron.
Oh,
she got to start just sticking her tongue out when she not dunks, but, you know, gets hit.
Yeah.
They bully her.
She gets bullied a lot.
That's true.
Speaking of contradictions, Mark Cuban is, he's been in this Twitter war with Rokana and various others.
Over the laws in California, the billionaire's tax they want to put in place and talk about how he would never
start a business in California. Never start a business in California. And yet here he is now saying
he's all in. He's a big fan of James Tolariko in Texas. Play it, Dan. James Tala Rico. Let's go.
Oh, okay. Tell me. Yeah, I'm a big fan. I'm a huge fan. Yeah, I know you are. I think he's honest.
He's trustworthy. He cares. He'll do the right thing as opposed to the politically expedient thing.
I think he truly wants to change, you know, bring back reality to politics.
And I think he's got a real chance to win.
Oh, my God.
Cuban, cubes, cubes.
He's going to California your Texas.
That's what he's going to do.
He's in this.
He's James Tala Rico, well, he's more liberal than Gavin Newsom.
How about that?
I was going to say, not than all of California.
He's going to do all the crazy, terrible stuff to Texas that you hate about California.
Without a doubt.
But Cuban wants to be popular with the right people so bad.
He wants to fit in with whoever it is that he values.
And he values his NBA crowd.
I don't know who else he's trying to fit in with.
I've got some guesses.
But it's more important to him than the actual policies that he purports to cover to care about.
There's nothing real or authentic about James Tala Rico.
It's time for Cuban to go back to Indiana.
Cubic zirconia, as I call him, cubes, as you call him.
He's phony.
You could see it in the face.
That face has so much Botox that looks like a one of Caitlin Jenner's calves.
I want to say that he's so disingenuous.
And he just panders.
And it's like, you know,
Nothing about politics.
You're totally unqualified for this.
And politics are not about reality anymore.
They're about showmanship.
The whole playing field has changed since 2016, and it's continuing to change.
And you're right.
California is Texas.
It's like, you know, that drink that's a little bit iced tea, a little bit lemonade.
What do they call it?
And Arnold Palmer, that's what they're going to do.
To Texas.
Yeah.
Have you played Austin lately?
I stopped going.
I did my special in Austin in May, but I haven't been back since.
What do you think?
What did you think?
Well, I don't go to Texas.
It's too hot.
Well, no, the Austin comedy scene is laughable.
Is it good?
No, it doesn't hold a candle to New York at all.
But, you know, Austin is a cool town.
Well, but it's really blue.
But laughable is not the same thing as doesn't compare to New York, right?
I mean, the New York comedy scene.
It's a real comedy scene.
It's a real comedy scene, but it's a different level of comedy.
It's shock for shock value.
It doesn't have the polish that New York comics have.
It's shock for shock value.
Yeah.
So it's what?
It's kill Tony.
It's kill Tony.
The mothership.
Yep.
And there's good comedians there, but it's not the per capita rate that there is in New York.
New York is still a case.
But is it a different style of comedy?
Yeah.
It's shock for shock value.
It's shock for shock value.
Yeah.
it's
buzzwords it's
you know
lean into the
griff type of thing
as opposed to
be a truth teller
and present both sides
it's only for a clip too right
yeah it's a shorter
abbreviated thing
I mean you know
Rogan is held up as the
king of the scene there's great guys
but Shane Gillis
just bought a place in New York
a lot of the really good comics
are leaving Austin
because the scene is so self-destrooted
and it's so the mother ship is filled do you mean on like the personal level when you say self-destructive are you talking about to comedy to the art form the
the mother ship is built up where everybody's happy clappy to watch that stuff and they just encourage like say the r word say the f word they and they love that it's all about freedom of speech down there whereas in new york you have to encounter a roomful of strangers every night and get them to come around to your
mentality instead of playing for the plebs that are there to support it.
It's a very distinct difference.
Yeah, it's a really distinct difference.
And there's been wars between like, you know, is Austin better, is L.A. better, as New York
better, all the really good comics know that the New York scene is better because you have to
present your stuff to a room full of strangers that are not there to support that stuff.
So if you can bring them around to your thought process, it means you're that much better at what you do.
What is L.A.?
Gay.
They're like, I feel like they're the podcast centric.
L.A. is dying. Austin is kind of the new L.A.
I mean, there's a lot of TV and film production happening in Austin.
A lot of the big podcasters are there as well.
L.A. still has the comedy store, which is fantastic, but the rest of the scene has kind of died out.
So it's like Austin.
All the L.A. guys moved to Austin.
and that mentality is still very prevalent there.
Austin's about making money.
These guys do comedy to make money.
In New York, people do comedy to be really good at doing comedy.
And if you make money, it's a great byproduct of that,
but people don't do it for the money.
You look at the best comic in Austin,
and dare I say, I don't think anyone would say it's Joe Rogan,
but people would say, whoever it is,
and then you look at the best comic in New York,
and everyone undoubtedly go, oh, it's Dave Attell.
And it tells had ups and downs financially, but is still, you know, hands down one of the best comedians around.
Who would people say he's the best comic in Austin, Dallas or Hinchcliff?
No.
Hinchcliff's last special was...
I mean, it's awful.
Stand-up's awful.
He's a great roaster.
Yeah.
Hosts of that show.
Yeah.
A great host of the show, which is basically like a glorified Simon Cowell.
But, yeah, the stand-up is not...
You're talking about Kill Tony.
Yeah.
Kill Tony is a huge show.
It sells out arenas, you know.
But it's, yeah, it's basically like a gong show.
The best come.
Brian Simpson's a very good comedian.
He lives in Austin.
I think Ron White is a very good comedian.
Gillis was down there.
And then there's some good young up-and-comers.
But, yeah, it's not Rogan.
It's not Hinchcliff.
I mean, they're money-making machines.
They're more marketing professionals than, you know,
respected comedians, I would think.
And New York doesn't, is it, is this fair to say, like, New York is, is more about the stand-up?
And maybe all comedies defined by the stand-up, but what you're describing for me,
and I am not an aficionado in any way, the mothership in Rogansdale in Austin is
stand-up, right? Take the stage, do your set.
Hinchcliffe's thing is different. It is a different, it's a different format.
Yeah, it's a thing to do.
It's like a make-a-wish America's got talent would be the best way.
to describe it. Yeah, I get it.
Yeah. But does that kind of thing not exist
in New York? Is New York all about
get up on stage and do the set,
kill as a stand-up? Yeah, New York is about
you know, respecting the kill
and it's not about just, you know,
shock value and stuff like that.
Is the Netflix special still a goal
for comedians? Is that still, like,
just getting a special? I think it is.
You know, I think
it's been a little
watered down by the accessibility of
YouTube and stuff like that.
I think people can put out YouTube, do better numbers.
And that's basically how a lot of people get a Netflix special now.
It's like, oh, you did great numbers on YouTube.
Come over here.
We'll give you this.
But people can make more money on YouTube doing it than they can on Netflix.
That being said, there's been some great Netflix special.
Like I remember Rogan special came out, and even his best friends were like,
why are you doing this?
You don't have to do this.
You have enough money.
You have a space where you can go and do your stand-up every night.
why are you doing a special?
And of course it was panned horrifically.
Because, you know, on some level, all Rogan does is an impression of Sam Kinnison,
which is, you know, sad and horrible to say.
But I think he's a great podcaster and a great interviewer,
and I think he opens up so many windows to conversations via the podcast.
But the stand-up is not, it doesn't stand out.
Let's take quick break.
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Is that horrible of me to say, Will?
No, I don't know him.
As a guy like you...
Bold-on-Bold attack.
It is bald-on-ball attack.
It's not just bald-on-bald. It's not just bald-on-bald. It's muscle comedian on
That's true.
And I'm sitting here.
Tattooed muscle comedian.
And I'm seeing a lot of things coming out right now that have subtext.
Okay.
And it's like, I'm more jacked than you.
Yeah.
I'm better looking than you.
Can you fight?
That's your voice.
Right.
So I don't know, you know, you're looking at Rogan and you're going, I'm more jacked and I'm better looking.
Yeah.
And then here you are.
He's a better fighter.
Better fighter.
Better podcaster.
Does not have the overall symmetry, proportion, balance physique that I have.
have. Bang. Got him.
Yeah. And also does not, yeah, does not
kill the same way. I kill on stage. I kill
way harder than Rogan kills on stage.
But so I do have a question about
you. You both are doing something. You're overcoming
hold on Patrick. You're overcoming the
bodybuilding, the being in shape thing
that can't help
comedy. That is actually a hurdle
you're putting in front of yourself. It is
because I'm good enough. I can
do that. And you know that as a guy who's newly
shredded and ripped and jacked
You know the show is harder for you to do now that you're so good looking in this piece of eye candy.
Whereas before, three weeks ago, when you would roll on to set, get out of your rascal scooter, and force yourself looking like, what's his name there?
Who was that guy, Brendan Fraser in that movie?
You know, you're pouring mayonnaise on your pizza slices before you get on to set.
You know what it's like.
It was easier to be a political.
influencer back then. And now everyone's like, oh, look at me, looked like a Kennedy. He's so good
looking. It is an uphill battle for you because people have to get past your smile, that
white toothy grin that looks so amicable, those rippled abs, those quadriceps hiding under those
Tommy Bahama shorts. No. Everybody knows. There's zero quadriceps. These things are bird legs. Yeah,
I don't know what have you seen. And they're bird legs and inflexible. Look at that. Nea. I can't, it's
right now my hamstring is screaming. Yeah, that's going to hurt tonight.
Comedy is, I think, well, I think this is about almost all human communication.
And I'll quote a feminist lib icon, Brunei Brown, vulnerability is the key to human connection.
Yes.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's good, but we connect through our failures, not our successes.
And so you get up on stage, especially, and I think it's only heightened for comedy.
To be real, yeah.
Like any type of person that gets up.
I wonder if politicians a little different.
I don't think so.
Like, you like the guy on TV, not the movie star.
That's different because movie stars are unapproachable.
They're stratospheric.
You don't want your movie star to be like you.
You want your movie star to be aspirational.
But the people that you want to hang with, you don't want to be constantly reminded
that they're better than you in some way.
Right. Right. And that guy who's telling jokes up on the stage,
vulnerability is a huge part of it. Sure.
Overcoming. That's why fatty's doing so well.
Fatty's because everybody likes to laugh at fatdies. You remember this when you were fat three
weeks ago. It is much easier to approach someone that's a fatty. But when you get good
enough at it, you can present, like I now talk about my life. I talk about peptides.
I talk about working out, and everybody on some level can connect with that.
Because even if they're not in great shape, they aspire to be in great shape,
or they dream about what it's like to be in great shape,
or they battle with what it's like to be in horrible shape, and try and get out of that.
So there is some accessibility.
It's just a matter of finding it.
I've been doing this for 25 years, and it's taken this long to get to that level.
And for years, people would be like you can't show your muscles.
Aaron, do you feel like you go through, perfecting an art form or a craft, also, I'm not talking about breaking through.
I'm talking about when you go home at night and you're like, I'm hitting on all cylinders or I'm not.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes.
I'm getting better.
Do you think that's linear?
Or do you think that has peaks and valleys itself?
Peaks and valleys.
Like everyone suggests, so a musician or whatever, you would presume that a musician learns things,
grows and continues to build upon it as he goes. So every iteration of him is better than the
previous one. But do you think that's not true? It goes through peaks and values. Like there
are times, oh, I did really well. And then you get even more mad at yourself that a couple of years
to patch, like, why am I not as good as I was? Yeah. You know, I don't, and that's, I'm talking
internally, not external validation, not ticket sales, not, not social media relevance, none of
that. I'm talking about just internal analysis. Do you, do you, do you think,
it's not linear? I think as an artist
there's this constant recreation
that happens and I also think ego
can get into it at certain points.
I remember, I used to watch
Rogan years ago and I was like, oh, this is really
good and then I think ego
can get into it and be like, oh, I'm
this or I'm this and then
not that the work ethic
stops, but I think that the
connection to the audience stops.
And the thing about stand-up is
it always has to evolve because the audience
always evolves and always changes.
So if you are basing your creativity on what you're saying and how the audience responds to it,
it constantly has to change, which is why people say, you know, comedy changes.
Because there's certain words that you can't say now that you used to be able to say.
Or you can say them and they have shock values, so they have to be very well contextualized.
It happens.
It's an evolving, ongoing thing.
And I think that there can be, I remember it four years in, I was like, man, I'm really good.
and then at 10 years in, I'm like, okay, I'm good again.
But there was, you know, a six-year window where it goes up and down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Patrick.
I was just going to ask, I'm not really familiar with Austin too much,
but you famously set a record for 25 sets in a night.
Yeah.
And it's like, could you even do that in Austin if you wanted to?
I don't think it's possible.
I think New York is.
New York will always be, you know, the King City for stand-up comedy.
There's nothing else.
I know London ran really well for a few years, London, England,
and the style over there was longer-form comedy.
It was storytelling.
So it's like everything in Edinburgh, in Scotland that hits now,
is like, my dad's got AIDS, and here's how I dealt with it.
And that's like an hour-long show, whereas, you know, in America,
it's like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke.
joke. So it's a very different
style. Interesting.
Austin does have a
scene and there's a good
hunger coming out of there,
but a lot of people will say
they do stand up for the money.
People do it. It's
gimmicks. A lot of the Kill Tony stuff
is reminiscent of
like, you know, there's a guy that does like
a dice type character
and he sells tickets and then there's
guys that are just basically like
shock jokes that have
have it guised as stand-up.
Whereas in New York, it's about pure stand-up.
You can tell there's a different thing.
When Kill Tony's in town to do Madison Square Garden,
and these guys go into the clubs,
and they do their stand-up,
and the New York comics do their stand-up,
there's a reason the New York comics always have to close the show.
Hey, did Rogan replace Stern?
Like, you never have said Stern wasn't a comic.
You know what I mean?
Or maybe it was opening to Anthony more.
But both of those guys became.
platforms to be discovered,
you know, and that's what Rogan became as well, right?
Or platforms to a bigger platform.
I mean, there's definitely a Rogan bump from comics that would go on that show,
and I think he would expose people,
but there's also people that go on there,
and their numbers don't go through the roof after.
So I think there's definitely something to being in that circle
that culminates in success, and I think that, you know.
But is Stern dead on that front?
Stern was something on that front.
Wouldn't you have killed to be on Stern at one time or whatever?
And now is it worth anything to go on Stern?
No.
I don't think so unless you're running for liberal political office
or your closet anti-Semite movie star.
You know, I don't think so.
And I think people make their own way now.
I think that's the strongest way to do things
is to build your own fan base and make your own way.
Don't get me wrong. I'd love to go on Rogan.
I know it won't happen after he watches this.
Or maybe it will.
Maybe he'll get to go on.
Why do you hate me?
And I don't hate him.
I'm just saying his stand-off special was garbage.
Is it okay to say that?
I'm getting down.
Do you ever say that about something?
I am down on the whole.
It's interesting, Aaron.
Okay, you could call me, and I'm open to this.
If somebody wants to say, well, you're a hack because, you know,
they're turning on President Trump or whatever may be, but it's not that.
I'm down on podcast ecosystem in general right now.
Okay, I'm just down on it.
And that includes comedy to some extent and definitely political commentators.
Sure. I think it's a race to the bottom.
And the only thing that breaks through and makes it.
And I had a conversation, I may have done this on air, Patrick.
I can't remember.
I had a conversation with a guy who's part of a very well-known podcast.
and he's like, it's really hard to compete anymore
with the Jews killed Charlie Kirk.
You know, it's really hard to compete with the market
giving you the craziest shit that you want at any given time
and serializing it in a soap opera fashion
for you to tune in every day.
Yeah.
And then I even see it among the comics, you know,
in the podcast world like the Sean Ryan types
and this and that.
It's like you've become so,
open-minded that your brain has fallen out of your head, but you're also only identifying with being
subversive or contrarian. And it's like, well, okay, so Trump was subversive and contrarian
in 2023, so you were cool. And now subversive and contrarian is something else. And like,
it's just all you're, all you're doing is searching for relevance. And I get it. Comedy is about
being subversive. So whatever the thing is, you should cut against the thing, right? That is a big
identity of comedy, but it also, there's something about it all right now, Aaron, that is making
me feel very played. Everything is making me feel very played. Sure, I agree. It's all part of the,
you can't say this, so I'm going to say this, but there still has to be funny underneath all
of it. And I'm not talking, ha ha, funny. I'm talking, make people hurt from laughing,
tears in their eyes funny. That's something that's really missing.
a lot from comedy now.
And by the way, the Jews
killed Charlie Kirk is a great
name for a punk band.
I don't know if it'll happen, but
I expect to see it playing at the Bowery
later this week. Maybe
Hassan Biker just walks out with some
ladies flip-flops on and starts
singing. Chairman Matt
Basically he did. Here, you've got
that, Dan, right? Play Hassan Byker.
So I don't even know what the lyrics are. Mocking
Charlie Kirk, though, right?
There was a real Charlie Kirk song.
What is he...
That, like, came out in support when he passed, and it was, like, a real thing.
And the left mocks that because they, you know, it could seem a little corny, the song.
Did you guys see the video going around where Hassan has given some interview and Charlie walks up to him?
And I was like, hey, Hassan Piker, in person.
He goes, I feel like you should give me some commissions on all the videos you do about me.
And Charlie's magnanimous, though, and friendly.
And Hassan's like, oh, last...
And now here he is mocking his assassination.
And this dude has so much power right now.
What a joke.
What a joke on everybody?
I don't know that he does.
I still question this point that As San Piker has so much power.
I don't know.
I've yet to believe it.
Maybe influence more so than power.
Yeah.
But just seems like it online.
Dudes on stage with Senate candidates, man.
That's not power?
They're one to go on his show.
That's not power?
Does Rogan have power?
I don't know that they want to, the more that they need to.
Are we talking like DSA candidates or like real candidates?
Well, I do also call himself a DSA camp.
It's like Schultz with Trump, you know, for the election.
How much that did, they felt like they needed to do that.
Yeah.
Rogan with Trump.
Yeah.
Theo Vaughn with Trump.
You know.
But these are comedians.
This is Hassan.
John Piker.
Yeah.
Well, what is he?
That's the difference.
I mean, he's a streamer.
It's like...
Okay, well, one didn't take the COVID shot.
The other wants a return of the Communist Chinese Party or...
Good point.
Good point.
I mean, I stand corrected.
I mean, they both have to do with China.
So where's the influence coming from?
Yeah, right.
Sounds like there's a theme.
All right, Aaron Berg is going to be at the...
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Yes, sir.
Let me see, Aaron.
I want to make sure I got it all.
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And I smoke cigars on occasion.
I'm much less now, thanks to my nicotine gum sponsor.
But yeah, cigar night at the stand, NYC, September 30th,
some of the best comics in New York City, some of the best cigar,
some of the best food.
It is insane.
We have a private chef, prepare a whole bunch of stuff,
and it's a crazy night.
And then I'll be in Ohio, October 10th, and 11th.
Of course, I'll be in Columbus at the Comedy Attic,
and I'll be at hilarities,
which is where Jimmy Phil
I met his wife years ago.
So I'm hoping to meet a girlfriend there
and not tell my wife.
It's awesome.
I literally don't know
what I'm doing later this week.
I've got your whole comedy schedule right here.
You just rattled that off.
Dude, I know what you're doing later this week.
Abbs, calves, shoulders,
biceps, triceps, intermittent fasting,
fasted cardio,
shooting peptides into your belly
and pretending and nothing happened.
Dude, you look amazing.
Which peptides are you on?
Which do I need to get on?
Reda Trutide.
Hit me up.
Reda Trutide is a miracle drug.
Is it really?
Everyone says online.
It's insane.
It made my blood work better than it's ever been.
Your cholesterol all goes down.
Your lipids are perfect.
You can't print any of this.
You're going to have to block it all out because they want to shut it down.
BPC 157 TB 500, the Wolverine stack.
CMAX.
There's so many great peptides.
out there. And then of course, just your normal, you're blocking out.
YouTube just canceled the show. And then, of course, a whole bunch of anabolic steroids that I
can't talk about. But they're fantastic. They made Ben Johnson. Besides the steroids.
The ones that made Ben Johnson World Champion.
Barry Bonds hit 700 runs. Are you worried at all at all? Aaron, are you worried at all
about the long-term, whatever, unknown? The long-term unknown.
I'm going to tell you what Hassan Piker once told me.
Sometimes he got a zap a dog.
And it's, I get my blood work done all the time.
And no, I'm not worried about the long term.
I mean, it's red at rutuside negates all of the negative effects of anything else.
That's what I'm going to print on my tombstone.
Oh, God.
I'm telling you, man, I'm this close.
I'm this close to jumping.
Dude, DM.
There's going to be huge, like, through six months.
So 50 years a lion, 75 years of lamb, baby.
That's how you look at it.
You know what I'm saying?
And we're both over 50.
So we're technically living on borrowed time.
You look great.
You don't need to change anything.
You're a beast.
You get out.
You drive in that Porsche box to this afternoon.
You go to your pickleball match.
You have a good time.
You throw some hey dude shoes on.
So specific.
Throw on a little Morgan Wallin and cruise around Texas.
Like you're the king of the place.
Damn near got me nailed.
You're the next governor rabbit, baby.
It's a yellow Porsche, too.
If it's a yellow Porsche box, I'm going to come down there and break your tail lights.
Like I'm a racist officer in South Carolina in the 60s.
All right, check him out at the SDR show and modern day man as well.
This has been fun.
Aaron Berg.
Thanks for hanging out with the air.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's a pleasure and a dream come true.
I bet it is.
All right.
We'll be back again tomorrow.
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