Will Cain Country - Feeling Squirrelly: What's Next For Israel, The GOP, and America?
Episode Date: October 23, 2023Story #1: New polling suggests former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley is now tied with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for 2nd place in the GOP Primary. Will DeSantis get his 9th inning home run? Story #2: ...Israel stands outside of Gaza ready to counter the Hamas attack, but do some American's sympathies lie elsewhere? Story #3: How many people are running for speaker? More than the amount of squirrels Will saw on his squirrel hunt. Tell Will what you thought by emailing WillCainPodcast@fox.com Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One. New polling suggests that Nikki Haley has.
drawn into a head-to-head tie with Ron DeSantis, setting up DeSantis for the need of a ninth inning home run.
Two, Israel stands outside of Gaza.
But as this drags on, a new poll suggests that sympathies could drift away from Israel.
Three, how many people are running for House Speaker?
more than the number of squirrels that I saw on the annual squirrel hunt and catfish rodeo.
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I just took a shower
I have washed off
the smell of campfire
anyone who's ever been hunting
or camping
knows that feeling after being away for two to three days
you may have showered
may have showered during the trip
but it was always a little spit of water
coming out of a very insufficient
showerhead
with who knows who's shampoo
and soap sitting on the ledge
and of course a very coarse towel that gets washed all too infrequently, but still you needed it
because it was better than the accumulated dirt and blood and guts that you had covered yourself in
and every day's hangover of a camping or hunting trip.
And I feel a bit renewed.
I feel fresh as I return back to civilization from the annual squirrel hunt.
and catfish rodeo three and a half hour drives with my son back into dallas leaves me a little bit
unprepared for what i wanted to do with you here today on the will cane podcast i did i took the
weekend off and i truly took the weekend off it's the first time in quite some time where i probably
took 48 hours and didn't think much about events in the world where i truly tried to live in the
present and it was necessary it was needed
And it was growth, which I will talk to you about throughout this episode.
But it did leave me in a position where I didn't get to deliver on what was my expected promise of part two of our history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the Middle East.
You can go back to last week's episode of the Wilkane podcast, download part one of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
It took us from the beginning of the Zionist movement in 1880 through the end of World War I and the Balfour Agreement that sets up the British mandate
for Palestine and draws lines in the sand, essentially setting us up for the nation states
drawn from tribes in Arabia, setting us up for the nation states of the 20th century that have been
part of our lexicon, part of our history of almost every war since World War II. My intention
for part two is to take you from that beginning of colonization and violence in the 1920s,
through the end of World War II and the establishment of the state of Israel.
But it is a bit of a beast.
I mean, my history is bogged down in commissions and white papers,
the Arab Revolt of 1936 and 1939, the Jaffa riot,
riots and skirmishes and tit for tat and blood
in attempts to negotiate some peace and diplomacy
lines that work for the Arabs and for the Israelis.
It's complicated, and I'm going to try to ingest it
and bring it back to you in a CliffsNotes version
where it's understandable, applicable, and a worthy story
because it only gets more complicated
after the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948.
But this period, from essentially 1920 to 1948,
is really not ground zero because that would be the beginnings of
the Zionist movement, but it is the beginning of the flames that light the tender box.
It's essential to understanding the moment that we are sitting in today with tanks on the outskirts
of Gaza and possibly nuclear warheads aimed across the Middle East.
I hope to deliver to you that on Wednesday.
But for now, because I turned off and because I spent most of my weekend pulling catfish off
of hooks, running trot lines, hiking through the forest, and digging four-wheelers out
of the mud, I thought I might bring to you three stories that caught my attention through the
analogy, lessons, and experiences of the annual squirrel hunt and catfish rodeo.
Story number one, a new poll by Emerson suggests that former UN ambassador and South
Carolina governor, Nikki Haley, has drawn into a dead heat with Florida governor.
Ron DeSantis at eight percentage points.
It's a little bit like the absurd question of, well, other than that, how was the play,
Mrs. Lincoln?
She might not be paying attention to exactly the quality of the acting when her husband
was assassinated at Ford Theater.
Should we be paying attention to the also-rans, the far, far-distant second, polling
at 8 percent, Republican nominees for president?
when that same Emerson College poll shows that Donald Trump is currently polling at 59%.
But there is a bit of a story and a bit of defensiveness going around about the rise and fall of Ron DeSantis.
Now, I think it's fair and important for your accuracy to point out the real clear politics average of polling for Ron DeSantis right now stands at 12.8%.
And that is over and above Nikki Haley's real clear politics polling.
average of 7.4%. So although this Emerson College poll shows DeSantis and Haley falling into a
dead heat, the real clear politics overall average, still has DeSantis in the lead, but still
a far distant second that RCP average also has Trump at 59%. When Ron DeSantis entered into
the race for president, it was with the idea.
at least in part, that you have to strike when the iron is hot.
You have to seize.
You have to capitalize on your moment.
That was supposedly a lesson from Chris Christie back in 2012, the nomination that eventually went to Mitt Romney.
If Chris Christie had ran in 2012, he was riding a high.
People saw him as the governor of New Jersey that could fight back against leftism.
He was tough.
He could also forge a consensus.
But he didn't.
He didn't run against Barack Obama.
Perhaps he thought he couldn't beat Barack Obama, and so he'd waited until 2016.
And the lesson from that, most people believe, is that Christy missed his window, that you have to do what Ron DeSantis did of striking while the iron is hot.
You have to strike when your window is perceived to have opened.
And it's true, many saw this as Ron DeSantis's window.
He's riding high.
Wonderful stewardship as leader of the state of Florida.
True, true brave leadership for Ron DeSantis through COVID.
But for whatever happened, simply throwing his hat in the ring to run for president,
wasn't really striking a hot iron.
On Friday night, me and my fellow squirrel hunters were sitting around campfire in far east, Texas.
This little bit of land that we hunt is.
about as far east in Texas that you can possibly get any much, any further.
And, well, you're not in Louisiana, but you're in Toledo Bend Reservoir,
which is the flooded, dammed up lake of the Sabine River that divides Louisiana and Texas.
I mean, it is far east, Texas.
It is like in the 1800s, so much so the beginnings of the Wild West and not what you think of the Wild West.
I mean, because we're talking about deep, piney woods and thicket,
but truly the beginnings of the Wild West where they had,
the regulator-moderator-wors in East Texas, which were those that wanted to bring law and
order and regulate the new frontier versus those that wanted to keep it Wild West, wanted to keep
it free.
And they literally had a war in this part of East Texas.
As we were sitting around the campfire, we all had our phones opened.
Oh, we were solving the world's problems in keeping ourselves well hydrated, but we all had
our phones open because it was game six of the ALCS, Texas Rangers, Houston Astros.
And as it was, half of the hunting camp was either from Houston or a fan of the Houston Astros.
The other half of us, either from the DFW Metroplex or are, and always have been, fans of the Texas Rangers.
We should say at the outset, this is probably one of the most gut-wrenching losses of my sports fandom, and I don't know how long.
It's been at least 12 months.
When when it comes to baseball, it's actually been 12 years.
2011, lost to the St. Louis Cardinals in the World Series.
On Friday night, the Rangers were up 4 to 2 in the 8th inning.
They were just four outs away, four outs away from going up 3-2 in the ALCS.
As I'm recording this for you right now, game six is about to go.
The Astros, by the time you're listening this, may have already clinched the ALCS and moved on to the World Series.
Or perhaps Nathan Nivaldi pitched a gym.
The Texas Rangers tied up the series 3-3.
I don't know.
That's why I'm somewhat emotionally put together to have this conversation with you for now
because I'm at least two days removed from what happened on Friday
and not yet living through the experience of what happened on Sunday night.
But on Friday night, up four two, two men on.
The Rangers bring in their closer, Jose LeClerc.
Two men on, no outs.
Up two runs.
Surely we can get four outs.
Again, history would teach me, well, we've been much closer and managed to lose.
We've been one strike away from winning the whole thing, the World Series, twice in one game, and managed to lose.
But I wasn't sitting with St. Louis Cardinals fans.
So, when inevitably, of course, Jose Altuve gets up to bat and jacks a three-run home run for the Astros to go up five to four.
There truthfully wasn't much said.
just the
flicker of the campfire
just some long faces
some quiet
and the kind of silence from Astros fans
that reflected exactly how bad it was
you can't rub that in in that moment
because there's a slight chance that could erupt into violence
or at least bruised feelings and hurt friendships for over a weekend
you ever beat somebody so bad
that you just kind of grimaced and didn't say anything
that's what that was
man truly gut-wrenching i felt like somebody had pulled my gut up through my mouth
and because i ride the roller coaster baby i go all the way down and all the way top i pay the
ticket i want the highs and the lows i let him go i mean i will ride that thing to the bottom
we're done it's over it's inevitable fate is what it is we're rangers fans can't happen
it may be again as you're listening that something miraculous happened on sunday night
and we're tied up going into a game seven.
I don't know.
Who knows?
You know.
I don't know.
But in order to ride my roller coaster to where I can celebrate when this thing crests the top of the hill, I have to ride it all the way the bottom.
No flat land on this roller coaster, baby.
So down in the dumps.
But there's a lesson there.
Up 4-2.
Up 2-0 in the series.
The Rangers had to strike when the iron was hot.
They had to capitalize on their window.
You can do what I did and say, oh, we just have to win one in Texas, win one of three.
And then you're up three games to one, and you're sitting pretty.
And you can't think that way.
You have to win the next one.
And that's why all my friends that say, I go, oh, we're a year early.
We'll win next year.
We'll be younger.
We'll have de Grombeck.
No, you win now.
You strike now.
Rangers need to win the next game, not one of the next three.
They win the next game.
Strike now.
Foot, throat, win.
Something about Ron DeSantis did not strike a hot iron.
I've told you it could impair him for 2028.
Something about Ron DeSantis, or maybe just something about Donald Trump,
means that Ron DeSantis didn't either have that window or didn't know how to step on his opponent's throat and win when he had the open window.
it's more likely. It's a combination of the two. But if I were assigning percentages of probabilities,
it's 20, 30 percent Ron DeSantis's shortcomings that will still be there, still be present in 2028.
And I like DeSantis. It's not a gratuitous opportunity to talk bad about the guy that's now fallen into 8%
with one of the Republicans who would lead us into yet war after war after war and take in refugees of those wars.
Nikki Haley promises to get us deeply involved in Ukraine or Israel.
And when Palestinians and Ghazans are set about fleeing into the wind, refugees,
Nikki Haley also promises to bring them back home to America.
And then when Americans can't get jobs, I don't know what her response will be then.
When we have refugees that don't assimilate, don't accultrate to America, take American jobs,
what will be the next, in turn, self-fulfilling policy in the traditional, I don't know,
compassionate conservatism married to neocon way of the republican party for the past two and a half
decades that person is who ron desantis is now tied with at eight percent according to emerson
college but the truth is while it could be 20 to 30 percent his fault and that fault will still
be there in 2028 it's probably 70 percent the fact that he's still running up against a man
who is simply a cult of personality and not just a cult of personality but the beneficiary of
policies that have left americans going wasn't life better
better before Biden.
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Story number two. As we sit here today, the Israelis look prepared to invade Gaza, small
skirmishes on the outskirts, two American hostages released on Friday. No real word why,
or if any more, will be released. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken suggests there,
or he hopes more of the some 200-odd hostages, 20-odd Americans being held hostage,
and the tunnels beneath Gaza will be released.
And I don't mean to make light of this, but, and it's hard to look at war through the prism of public polling.
But anyone who's understood war and understands that the first thing to die in war is the truth,
understands the value of propaganda.
What's the value of propaganda?
You win wars with public sentiment.
You win wars with public support.
First, domestically, you need people to buy in.
Uncle Sam wants you.
Buy American T-Bonds.
Support the war effort.
You know that to be true.
You've seen it.
You've read about it.
You've learned about it here in America during World War II.
You know what happens when American public loses interest and then gets war weary,
tired of the cost, financially and with our blood, of getting bogged down like every other empire in Afghanistan.
You know what happens to public support and public polling on war.
It's interesting what's going to happen to Israel.
In the past, Israel has largely benefited, I think, at least domestically here in the United States,
from overwhelming support.
And it's true, too, today.
American support Israel.
Republicans something like 80%, 78, 80%.
Democrats, closer to 50%.
But largely, the American public is with Israel.
And that's equally as important to getting support domestically.
You have to get support internationally for your war.
I mean, international support, support from the UK,
and support from the United States, is really, it was.
It was laid out in the Zionist mandates, early in the program of colonizing the Middle East.
They needed support from a major power.
It was laid out by Haim Whiteson, one of the main leaders, the main leader, perhaps, of the Zionist movement in the Levant.
You need support from a major world power, and Israel is going to need support for this war.
But the further you get removed from what happened,
the horrific terrorist attack that killed something like 13,400 Jews in Israel,
the further you get removed from that atrocity,
and the attention focuses on tomorrow, on the next move, on the military strategy,
and what's happening in Gaza, Israel's going to have itself a difficult time
with public propaganda.
Bogged down.
Now, I don't mean to make light,
but I promise to give you this story through some analogy
and some sharing of experiences through the squirrel hunt and catfish rodeo.
So, sitting on Toledo Bin, this little camp, runs right off into the water.
And let me tell you something, there's that mud, that whatever it is, clay, it is a mixture of clay and sand.
It is as close as you get to quick sand that I've ever experienced.
So on Saturday afternoon, after we'd done the squirrel hunt that morning, we're all sitting around watching college football recuperating.
and um my uh our leader bubba our leader my mom's husband luke four um comes walking up sweating and muddy
and bleeding with my brother and says hey we need your help we're stuck so me and one of my
brother-in-laws hop on to a four-wheeler two four-wheelers took two four-wheelers off riding off into
the woods i want to say off in the woods at first we're on trails but i'm following them and
all of a sudden we peel off the trail into the woods.
When I say we pull off the trail into the woods, there's no trail in the woods.
We are whipping through small trees, aiming for small trees trying to avoid big trees.
And the four-wheeler just bends down the small trees.
These things are powerful, by the way.
Impressive piece of machinery.
Yeah, we are plowing through the woods, trying to get down to this creek that runs off into the lake.
where my mom's husband, Bubba, and my brother had run a mule, big old powerful mule, not the livestock mule.
You know what I'm talking about, the four-wheel or mule, into a creek bed.
And it was into water up above its tires into the well, the floorboard of the mule.
Like if you wanted to press the gas or the brakes, you had to put your foot in the water.
How did you guys manage to do this?
We just having a good time.
Thought we could clear it.
And they drove down into that thing.
And, I mean, it must have been, like, hitting gum, like, just stuck.
I mean, I'm talking about not even a budge stuff.
Yeah.
No, no, no, that stuff you do in the snow, you know, rock it back and forth.
Come on.
You get it.
You can't get out and push because you'll sink down to your hip in this mud.
So his big idea is we're going to get the two four-wheelers.
and we're going to toe strap them off and try to pull it out.
First we tried one, mine.
So I'm on the four-wheeler.
They tow-strap me off to the front, to the bumper grill, the guard up front on the mule.
He's like, give it, go, Will, go.
I'm like, let me take the slack out.
No, I'm taking the slack out.
I ease up.
But then I gunned it, you know, before you know what, I'm riding a Bronco.
I mean, my front tires are way up above my head, and I mean, I am a two-wheel.
wheelie and I'm going up and back and the mule's going nowhere okay everybody thought I gave it a good
college try I didn't back off I thank you thank you a few man points I appreciate that so now we're
going to try on two two four-wheelers to pull the mule out so we do that this is his biggest
redneck job you've ever seen making it up as we go on the spot it's the kind of thing you read
about how somebody that's how that's how he lost his finger at best and bubble was already bleeding from
all the trees whipping across his face.
I mean, he had bud all down his shirt.
So he tied off his four-wether to my four-wheeler.
I was in the lead.
I was the lead sled dog.
And he was in the second position.
And then we both gunned it at the same time to try to pull that mule out.
And I'm going to tell you something.
When I gunned that thing, it felt like I had gotten hit by Ray Lewis.
I mean, just brick wall.
Not a butt.
Boom.
Nothing.
Nothing.
So I said, okay, okay.
let's go to the other side and this is the part that's going to receive a little bit of pushback
should anyone listen it was my idea to go to the uh let's pull it out from the back so we go back to the
find our way around the creek which took a little bit of doing as well because we're going to get
those things stuck and i ran all the beach came back up the river did the same thing tied it off
went straight to two and this time when he gave me the go i decided this one's it i'm going full
board if i if i tumple backwards i tumple backwards if we snap a finger or leg
whatever. Floored that bad boy. I could hear Bubba behind me. He floored his and I felt a little give. Now I'm moving. I'm moving. My nose comes up, but I leaned up over it. Now we're moving and then I'll look back and there's that bad boy coming out. And it was the biggest celebration. It was like, let me tell you something. It was the biggest accomplishment of the weekend. We'll get to that in a minute. That was the biggest success. Hunt for manhood of the weekend. Pulling that mule out of the mud.
it was so fun we rode the four-wheelers back on the beach
and there's down trees cedars everywhere on the beach so you'd have to run them off into the lake
at times but the lake gradually goes away so you know you're you're driving your four-wheeler
up through water up to your knee high coming back on the beach I went and got my son
my 50s like you got to come do this with me got him we went back went up and down the beach
in the water he and I then got our four-wheelers bogged down in the quicksand of the lake
twice. There we, since those were light enough, I could get out, sink down into the mud, lift them up
over onto a little more solid ground, get out. Man, it was the most redneck, dirty, no rules. My son said,
I mean, you could do anything there. You could do anything. We shot clays. Yeah, we didn't
let off any tannerite. No small munitions. We had an AR, didn't fire that thing off, did that last
year. He's like, it's just free. I was like, yeah, man, that's what it's about. That's
what everybody likes going out to a campfire, to a ranch, hunting, because you feel free,
even if every once in a while you get, or maybe even because every once in a while, you get
bogged down. Now, I'm not making light. I'm just sharing experiences I go through the news
cycle with you. You should, I should, we should all worry about Israel's potential to be free
from this terror without getting bogged down.
I want to share you the results of this poll right here.
This is from a Harvard Harris poll.
They polled individuals across a whole host of political issues in the United States, including the Israel-Hamas war.
When asked the following question, voters say, the killing of 1,200 civilians is not justified,
but the grievances of Palestinians and the attacks on Jews or genocide.
idle. So let's focus on that first part.
1,200 civilians
killed, not
justified.
But the grievances
of Palestinians,
do they or do
they not? The grievances of Palestinians
justify the killing of 1,200
Jews, civilians. That's
the question.
Do the grievances of Palestinians justify
that terror?
76% of people said no.
not justified, 24% said can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians. There's no
justification for the horrific terror attacks on those Jews in southern Israel. There's no
justification for pogroms across Europe. There's no justification for the killing of any
civilians, including those civilians that may be Arab throughout history. And that's why we go
through the history together in this three-part series of this conflict.
But when you look at this, what's fascinating is the younger you go down the age groupings, the more sympathy for Palestinians.
I knew that intuitively. I'd heard that, but I'd never seen to put into a poll.
Let's just give it a little bit of color and context.
People aged 55 to 64.
11% said what happened can be justified by the grievance of Palestinians.
89% said there is no justification.
drop down an age range.
45 to 54, 23% said it can be justified by the grievance of Palestinians.
We've more than doubled.
But if you go down to the younger age ranges, 25 to 34-year-olds,
48% said that terror, that pogram,
can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians.
And once you get to 18 to 24-year-olds, the majority, 51%.
said what happened can be justified by the grievances of Palestinians.
49% said not justified.
Young people, more so than older Americans,
sympathetic to the cause of the Palestinians.
If this drags on and the further attention gets away from those horrific events of October 7th,
and as they move on to the war, and as the war is broadcast, my son this weekend at the campfire,
as we got to have conversations special times, special, special times to be able to sit there
and just talk with your son.
He said, man, you think about the future of warfare, it's all going to be televised.
He said, you see those Hamas soldiers?
They all had gopros on.
I said, I know, I saw that.
And who knows where he's seeing it?
TikTok, I don't know.
Yeah, he said, they all have gopros and they're filming it and they're broadcasting.
And I said, how about you combine that with the fact that so many videos can be faked now?
What's the future of warfare?
Well, you know what the future of warfare is?
It's more propaganda.
Fake stuff.
Fake images.
We're already inundated with that stuff.
But I've seen AI stuff recently that blows your mind.
How are you to know what is real?
Fight for your mind.
Propaganda, that is war.
And the further this gets away, as you look at this polling, it's going to be harder and harder.
It may be easier to win the actual war and harder.
to win the war for public minds.
That's not a, that's, I'm not telling you right or wrong.
I'm still giving you the analysis that you should look this and go, that's going to be hard.
Increasingly harder for Israel.
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Story number three.
How many people are now running for House Speaker?
More than the number of squirrels would kill the squirrel hunting catfish rodeo.
I'm tempted to tell you it was a down year.
But the truth is, incremental growth, we're all getting better.
700% increase in sightings of squirrels there in East Texas.
Last year, I think we saw one killed one.
This year, we saw seven.
I myself saw four.
That's a 400% increase for me.
I saw zero before.
I saw four squirrels run through the treetops.
I took a shot.
He was far away, but I was tired of no action.
Yeah, man, we saw them.
I think between all of our groups, really only did the squirrel hunt one morning.
We saw seven squirrels.
We killed one.
We got one squirrel, just like last year.
I was in the group that got him.
Pretty exciting moment.
Not great eating.
And we cooked it up.
We did.
We skinned it.
We quartered it.
We fried it.
I don't care how many times they tell you it tastes like chicken.
Not big on squirrel.
Just not big.
We talked about that over the weekend, by the way.
What is, like, love hunting?
Fish don't count.
Fresh fish, wild fish, always almost.
I don't know about always.
But just about as good as farm.
raised um but i mean i love venison i do i like duck has it ever been as good as a steak
and i know they've chalked that chicken breast full of hormones and pumped them up where he can't
even waddle around the coop and i know that cow who knows what's running through his bloodstream
but i don't know if you could really joe rogan to talk about elk steaks were they ever as good
as a rib-eye?
Anyway, squirrel isn't.
I'll tell you that.
But we shot clays.
We got catfish.
Not any monsters this year.
We've had 12 to 15 poundsers in the past.
This one, we were lucky if we got over five.
But they still eat well.
Flayed them up.
Had a big fish fry.
Way too much salt and Tony Satcheries.
I'm swollen and eyes barely open right now.
But we had a great.
Great time. Broke down the problems of the world. Spent time with my son. That's what it's
about in the end, man. Just talking. Talking about his future and what he wants to do for a
living. Yeah, talk about soccer here and there. That's his sport. Talk about football. Plays
on the football team. Talk about friends. Talk about his social environment. Talk about what he
thinks of the world. Forget what I think of the world. What does he think of the world?
Let's be present. Try to teach fewer lessons. Just do more listening. Oh, man.
make mistakes, got to let him make mistakes.
Okay, yes, you can take my car back into town and get Bubba some limes for his drinks.
So let him take my truck, the 10 miles back into town, country roads mostly.
Should I, shouldn't I have, I don't know, I never know the answers, you know?
Take on little bits of responsibility, allow some mistakes to happen, learn your gun culture, your gun etiquette, your gun safety.
did a great job with that, never caught a stray barrel pointed in the wrong direction,
hit a few targets, learn to be a man. Make some mistakes, take on some more responsibility,
let me hear your thoughts. Great. Awesome. Coming a man. So if I saw seven and killed one,
how many people are running for house? The answer is nine. Nine people have apparently thrown
their hat in the ring to run for House Speaker. After Jim Jordan,
He's no longer a candidate.
You're looking at now, Congressman Tom Emmer, House Majority Whip.
Congressman Kevin Hearn from Oklahoma.
Congressman Jack Bergman, 40-year vet of the U.S. Marines.
Congressman Austin Scott from Georgia.
Byron Donald's, friend of the Will Cain program.
From Florida.
Running for House Speaker.
Congressman Mike Johnson from Louisiana.
Congressman Pete Sessions.
from Texas. Representative Dan Muser from Pennsylvania and Representative Gary Palmer out of Alabama.
I would tell you more about each of these guys, but I just don't know. I don't know. What do I know about
Gary Palmer, Dan Muser? I'm sorry. I'm not going to pretend like I do. I know Byron Donald's.
I think he's really smart. I don't know what he is as a leader. I don't know. He's still very
young. I don't know about Jack Bergman. I know Tom Emmer's a whip and that's something you have to do.
When Matt Gates embarked on this project, the whole thing, success was predicated upon what comes next.
In and of itself, it wasn't good.
It was only good in its ability to deliver for the American people, a speaker who delivered for the American people and represent the views of the American people.
This thing has gotten so out of hand.
It's so personality-driven.
Everybody's so mad. Everybody's so mad.
They don't want to give Jim Jordan it because then it gives Matt Gates a win.
It's like it worked for him.
And I get it.
personalities. This is what leadership is. Managing personalities. And believe it or not, as I've
told you in the past, I don't like compromising my personal life. I understand compromising government.
It's the necessity of a body that has that many people in it. It's just the way it works.
So, hopefully out of one of the nine, we find something. And I'm not rooting for Matt Gates.
I'm rooting for America when I say, I hope it's something that's better than it was before
for America. There you go. There's three stories. Through the experiences.
I had this weekend of the Squirrel Hunt and Catfish Rodeo.
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