Will Cain Country - Foreign-Born Shooters Force a Brutal Immigration Question

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

In this Friday edition of ‘Will Cain Country,’ Will and the Crew examine the concerning rise of terrorist inspired mass shootings and other attacks committed by naturalized U.S. citizens, discussing whether these tragedies could have been avoided if the United States had a higher bar for citizenship.Plus, Will and The Crew share their thoughts on the rise in “iPad tipping,” before debating which would be easier to live without: College Football and Golf or March Madness and the NFL?Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For terrorists, for legal, naturalized citizens of the United States. It's time to talk about legal immigration. Plus, how much do you tip when you're standing at the counter? It is Wilcane Country normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time. At the Wilcane Country YouTube, the Wilcane Facebook, but always here at Spotify or on Apple. Former NFL star JJ Watt introduces an interesting question. how much do you tip on the iPad when you're simply standing at the coffee counter and every other debate on the frontier of tipping in America? But first, with two attacks in one day, legal immigrant citizens to the United States, are we doing everything we can to bring in people?

Only bring in people who love America. What's up? Shocking news. Shocking news out of California. Tinfoil Pat, two days, Dan. I'm just scrolling. through my ex feed. We happen to be live today for the first time. That's right. It's exciting.

Streaming on YouTube as we always are. But also today on X for the first time. scrolling through my X feed, take a look at Polly Market. Polymarket, breaking news, California governor race. Eric Swalwell surges in California governor's race. Now the clear favorite. He has a 64% chance. chance of being the next governor.

Just when you think California might actually go through some sense, some form of self-correction, some arc, some bend back towards sanity, they're going to outdo themselves with Governor Gavin Newsom. They're going to go with Eric Swalwell as governor. It's wild. Insanity. How long until you can just declare California a failed state? I don't know if we're there yet. It's a failed state. I think we're there.

We're there. We've been there. We've been there. Well, and the wild thing is, it's like, you know, who do you grant more respect to? Okay. You know a couple of guys. All right. This guy came from nothing.

He built himself into lower middle class. He's, you know, living in the suburbs. Or maybe he's living in the suburbs. community he grew up in better. And, you know, maybe he grew up, single parent household didn't do well. And he built himself into something that, you know, the rest of the world looks at and goes, meh, average. But that guy took what he was given in this world and he built it into something more versus the guy who inherits a hundred million dollars, lives a fabulous lifestyle. By the end, he's worth $20 million.

And for the rest of the world, they can't tell what he's done with what he's been given. He's still vacationing fabulously, sending his kids to private school, driving the best cars. Who does the world look at and declare a success? Who can the world peer through and actually see respectability? What I'm getting at is California was given $100 million in the analogy. California was given everything. California was granted the Pacific Ocean, the mountains. It was granted beautiful weather. Napa Valley. It was granted everything that would ever want to attract someone to move there. Napa Valley. And this is what California has done with it. They have created a state that people are fleeing from, no matter what Gavin Newsom would do or can do because he's a genius at twisting and turning numbers. People are voting with their feet. They're fleeing California. They're going to Texas. They're going to Tennessee. They're going to Florida.

And their streets are full of homelessness. I think California's population, by the way, to get us into a conversation I really want to have today, I think it's 40% foreign-born, the state of California, 40% foreign-born population. We got Hollywood there. A lot of people have called from all over the world. That just doesn't matter. Man, I feel like that. I mean, okay. But to make it. That asset has depleted in value exponentially.

In the 90s, you would have said, oh, I want to go to California. Sure. I want to be a part of the center of American pop culture, movies, and music. And now, I don't hear anyone talk that way. No one. Just as a microcosm, as we've talked about, I know a ton of Californians. I went to college in California. And now, almost all of them.

send their kids to Texas to go to college. They're going to TCU. And, you know, recently, to fulfill my prediction, fellas, I got a few examples of Californians and New Yorkers sending their kids to Texas Tech. And we go, Red Raiders. Interesting. Get your guns up. That's the I believe, right.

When they start leaving L.A., when they start leaving L.A. for Lubbock, you know, you've got a real. It was a real issue. By the way. My wife is from Lubbock. I didn't say anything. I love Loveick. But they write songs about people leaving Lubbock. To go to California.

And they're leaving. They're leaving the Pacific Ocean to go to Lubbock. But the culture must be so different from California and Texas. I mean, the translation just doesn't make sense to me. Like, how do you come from California? Well, I do think California. Because think about all the factors that went into this, okay? There's so many, if you think about it.

Obviously, COVID played a huge role in pushing people out of California, the way that Gavin Newsom literally arrested people on the beach, surfers, just as a microcosm. I think COVID was a real eye-opener. I think there's a general quality of life degradation that includes, like, the homeless problem. Like, it's a big, big problem. I do think the foreign-born population, again, which I want to talk about in just a moment here with some of the incredible news of yesterday and now the debate today. But I do think the foreign-born population of California is something that's pushing people out of California. On the movie front, like, how much is actually made in California anymore?

Every time you turn around, there's something. You know what? I would love to look at a percentage of movies and television shows that were made in California in, say, the 90s versus now. Right. That's true. Because there's tax incentives in every state. They're going to New Mexico. They're going to a lot of places to make movies. Florida, Georgia.

I mean, like, a lot of stuff was recorded in northern Georgia. I know Florida, you know, they did that show Bloodline with Netflix. Stanford, Connecticut gives big tax incentives for movies. It's the next show's movies there. I remember Adam Crolla talking about all the Taylor Sheridan stuff. Yep. How he ran into Samuel L. Jackson and I think in the airport or something. And he was going to Winnipeg.

to Vancouver's huge too by the way big big so I mean you could probably hop on AI right now and find what's at what percentage of movies and television shows were produced in California

in the 90s versus now and I bet it's completely cratered and then there's one more factor speaking of Taylor Sheridan there was the Yellowstone effect and I do think that had a pretty big cultural impact where cowboy culture

country music, cowboy boots became, and I don't think it still is. I think there for a good four or five years, it was sort of the hippest thing in American pop culture. And I think that along with its, you know, again, it happened kind of at the tail end of COVID, the embrace of freedom and guns and that kind of thing that a lot of people said, I'm out, I'm moving to Texas. And remember when I went to college in California, they would say to me, do I ride a horse? To school.

That's an honest question. I got to ask that question more than a couple times. Come on. It's not that's question. It's not 1915. I ride a bicycle. The kid in Monty Ducks too. He was from Texas and he had a lasso.

He lassoed the guy on the ice, you know? Yeah. That's what you guys do. Yeah. I've seen movies. So obviously, real life is just like the movies. Yeah. So they think they're moving to Texas and they're going to ride a horse to school, I guess.

I got some numbers here. The 90s, almost half. of industry production was based in California. It came out of California. Now it's less than a third. So less than 30% of the share is from California. So it's basically been halved. Yes.

If it was 50% then, now it's around 25% to 30%. It's been almost halved. And also, you know, the whole idea of being a Hollywood movie, aren't the Oscars this weekend? By the way, the Oscars are all this weekend, aren't they? That tells something in and of itself that we don't know. Well, I only know because one of our guest hosts mentioned it. Yes, for next week.

For next week. Yeah. Okay, okay. How many movies do they nominate for Best Picture Now? Did they nominate 10? Is that what they do? It's a lot. Dan, I expect you to be all over this.

You just do the Grammys and music? I'm Grammys, baby. You know? You're a movie junkie. Could you name? Could you name four of the movies, right now, without looking it up, nominated for Best Picture? Yeah, you know one that you didn't like and thought it was woke. I could, okay, maybe I could do one, yeah.

But I'm putting over under at four. And just real quick, again, back in the 90s, I think you could have named all of them. And probably you would have seen all of them. They didn't do 10 back then. This is a rough list. Um, let's, we're going to get into what happened yesterday. Um, we're going to get into what happened yesterday with these two, um, terror attacks in Virginia and Michigan in just a moment. But I just want to do this quick quiz, okay?

I want you to put this together on the fly, Dan. I want you to pull a random year from the 90s and I want you to see how many of the, do late 90s, because you guys are millennials. I want you to see how many we can name me and Paso. Patrick, how many of the best picture nominees we could name from pick your random year in the 90s and then this year. And I'll put the, I'll put the over under, okay, fine, I'll put the over under at 75% we can get from the year in the 90s and 40% now. So let's do now. The one you're referencing, I think, which I didn't hate, but I didn't love, is the one with Leonardo DiCaprio and Benetio, one battle after another. Yeah.

Yeah. Didn't hate it. Didn't love it. Okay, what else is up for Best Picture this year? I don't even know if I can get one other one. So there's one with a very famous actor. He was, I'll give you, you want to, you want a hint? he started a franchise tied to Rocky

he started a franchise tied to Rocky Michael B. Jordan's in Creed oh Ryan he did this movie Michael B Jordan is in it yep he I'm pretty sure He directed it yep sinners sinners yep I never saw it

Neither did I it's a kind of a music record I don't know I don't know Um Out And then there's a remake of a very famous movie That's nominated Classically famous movie story Very famous director

I don't know Frankenstein Gameryl del Toro Oh I saw that actually I didn't It was fine It was fine It was not

All right Name the other best picture nominees And let me just see how many I've even heard of Or maybe I saw and forgot Bologna which was god-offal It was terrible Never heard of it Jesse Plemons

From Friday Night Lights and Emma Stone is really, really bad. Breaking bad. Yep. And then Hamnet, which is... Never heard of it. Yep. It's a playoff of Hamlet.

Marty Supreme, which was terrible. Timothy Chalemate. Oh, I saw Marty. I saw Marty Supreme. I should remember that. Dan, can I tell you, I did not like Marty Supreme either. I didn't hate it. I'm not giving it an F.

And here's my thing on Marty Supreme. It's the same guy that did uncut gyms with... with Adam Sandler. I just don't like, I don't like his thing. Oh, it's two brothers. I don't like their thing.

Like, it's tension throughout. Like, it's, it's never alleviated tension. You think something's about to happen. The scenarios. Yeah. It's like, it's a balloon that never pops, but just keeps inflating more. And you're like, oh, I need,

there's not an emotional roller coaster to it. There's only like this, like, I guess, designed to be white knuckle grip through the whole thing. And that's an exhausting feeling. dealing for two hours, two and a half hours. You know the next one that's up for it that is rare in this category is F1 with Brad Pitt. That's like a classic.

Yeah. That's a classic Best Picture nominee. And then the Secret Agent. Is it? Yeah. It's like a sports movie. You know, you don't usually see that anymore than two artsy. They didn't start including movies like F1 until they expanded the Oscar field into more mass popular pop.

corn type movies. They didn't used to do that. Like, I'll bet you when we go back in those 90s ones, they're much more they're artsy, but we watched the artsy ones back then. They had more mass appeal. No. All right, we'll see. Yeah, no, no, no. All right, we'll see. Then the secret agent

and then sentimental value Norwegian movie, and then train dreams. I don't know what that is. None of those. None of those. So I've heard of four of them, maybe? Yep. Seen three of them, I think. All right, let's, now what year did you pick? The thing is, on the 1990s, you're going to have to ground me a little bit.

Like, why don't you give me the winner, and I'll see what else was that year? So films from 1997, but the 1998 Academy Awards, the winner was Titanic. Hugely popular film. Yep. Yeah, that's a popcorn movie. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. That's a gigantic popcorn movie.

And then as good as it gets, popcorn movie. I would say that's a rom-com Is that Jack Nicholson? Yeah Is that Jack Nicholson? Yeah Yeah Dian Lane saw it

Yep The Full Monty I never saw that Don't remember the Fulmonte Is that I don't know I don't remember the Fulmonte The Fulmonte was

Um Yeah I honestly have no idea I've never seen It was English I think Yeah I think it's British Um and then LA Confidential Huge movie

Kevin Spacey Yeah. And then one more that you may have heard of this movie. Goodwill hunting. Yeah. That's a hell of a list. That's like an, that's an artsy movie that was popular. It's like the artsy movies now don't get so popular, it feels like.

Matt Damon talks about this. Like his entire career was built on those movies that don't get made anymore. Sure. Movies that were artsy but yet still got wide release. And you know who was behind it. The guy like, Matt Damon was saying has said he would not be a movie star in today's day and age because he, that's how he became a movie star off of those kind of movies. Harvey Weinstein. Yeah.

Harvey Weinstein was the guy behind all of those movies. I know. So, so he's got that going for him, which is nice. So it's all to say, circling the, circling the, circling the drain. the state of California. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country. At Desjardin, our business is helping yours. We're here to support your business through every stage of growth,

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feeling as urgent as I am on this subject. People are covering it. So it happened basically during my 4 o'clock show on the Fox News channel, the revelation of basically both shooters.

One was a would-be shooter, one was a shooter. Guy who's now revealed to be a Lebanese naturalized citizen to the United States from Dearborn, Michigan. Dearborn is the city where they have a Muslim mayor who said he's not, that he doesn't want Dearborn essentially, I'm paraphrasing here, but to be a welcoming community to Christians,

Rams his car into a synagogue in West Bloomfield, Michigan. He's taken down by security, killed. The car apparently was full of incendiary devices, explosives, the guy burns up. And then separately, same day, at Old Dominion University in Virginia, a naturalized citizen from Sierra Leone, who had been arrested and served jail time for providing material support to ISIS, shot an ROTC instructor at Old Dominion. Now, I want to take a minute before we get into what I feel urgent about and just say, what a bunch of badasses, first of all, at Old Dominion. students took down this guy one stabbed him to death

an ROTC student stabbed him to death what a bunch of badasses I mean this is America is getting to flight 93 status on this stuff like we're not running we're not hiding you're going to die

and maybe you're going to do some damage and he killed this man I think his name was Tyler Shaw who had served the United States of America in battle zones This is who he killed. But these ROT students, ROTC students, subdued this guy, killed this guy. And then the security guards, the security guards in West Bloomfield at the temple, taking this other would-be terrorist down, is just an incredible and inspiring story of good guys with a gun,

taking out bad guys with a gun, actual heroes. And to me, like, okay, you. You want to attack America? You want to come and you want to attack us? Be prepared. This is the way it should be. Like, be prepared. Remember that scene in hell or high water,

which is one of my favorite movies, and I reference it often. When the guys are robbing the bank in small town, Texas, right? And, oh, what's is the actor's name? I love that actor. Ben something. He's playing the Wild Brother. And he says to the old guy who's at the teller,

he goes, you got a gun old man? And he's like, well, hell yeah, I got a gun. You know, this needs to be the assumption when you walk in to do bad in America. We got guns. Good guys are here. Good guys are ready to do damage. And we need more of that. And so to hear this prosecutor in Virginia, who is Soros funded.

And I don't have his name in front of me, guys, but I believe he's of Iranian descent. I'm not positive about that. Blame guns. Like, immediately, that's where he's. he goes. He wants to blame guns for this incident in Virginia. This man needs to be raked over the cold, voted out of office at a minimum. And I've got more. I want to talk to about things we can do in these situations. But this conversation today that I feel urgent about is in direct contradiction to any prosecutor that wants to come out here today and talk

about guns. And what I want to talk about is from these two situations, to Austin, to, I'm going to include this as well, the two would be bombers in New York City at the protest outside of the Gracie Mansion, the New York City Mayor's House. You are talking about naturalized U.S. citizen, naturalized U.S. citizen, naturalized U.S. citizen, and then finally when it comes to New York City attempted bombers, the children of naturalized U.S. citizens. This is where the situation lies. This is where the debate is. should exist. And this is where we have to push the conversation today. Yesterday, I put those facts out on X, and I said, we have a legal immigration problem in the United States. And it got a

lot of push, a lot of attention. And it gained a lot of response. And I want to share with you some of what the response was, because I believe, quite honestly, as much as I appreciate these responses, is it doesn't go far enough. And these guys are welcome on my show whenever they like. But let's start with Congressman Riley Moore, who has been a guest on this show. Congressman Riley Moore reposted what I had to say and said, this horrific pattern of naturalized citizens committing acts of terrorism against the American, people must end.

I will introduce a bill to denaturalize and deport any naturalized citizen who, one, commits an act of terrorism, two, plots to commit an act of terrorism. Three, joins a terrorist organization. for otherwise AIDS and abets terrorism against the American people. What I would say to Congressman Moore is, yes, of course, at a minimum, and that doesn't go far enough. But we can go further because also General Mike Flynn chimed in, and he reposted Riley Moore and said, I think you should add to it. While you're at it, outlaw Sharia law in America and at a universal ban on Muslim Brothers.

And then General Flynn tags me in this. And what I would say to General Flynn is, yes, and that's also just a start. That's not far enough. And yet one more. Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri, who's also a friend of the program and been on the show quite a bit. He posts what I had to say. And then he said, after the Save America Act, which is being proposed and looks like it's doomed to fend. sadly to ensure American elections are only decided by American voters.

He says, we must pass the Scam Act so we can denaturalize and deport those who are here to hurt America. We must denaturalize those who shouldn't be here. Will is exactly right. And then he puts out the bullet points of his proposed scam act. It's to expand denaturalization to welfare fraud, aggravated felonies, espionage, and drug cartels, foreign terrorist organizations. And to Senator Schmidt, I would say also, yes, good start, but not far enough. So let's back up now for a moment. Naturalized citizens. Naturalized citizens are immigrants to this country who come in and have to pass a very minimum standard set of

issues and tests, civics tests, and get along in the path of naturalization. They have a home country, they want to become American, they become the American citizens. I'm not proposing an end to naturalize citizenship, no. But I am proposing a very, first of all, I'm proposing a very, very, very high bar to naturalization. So this week, we talked about this on the 4 p.m. show. You know, if you want to become a citizen of Turkey, for example, you have to have lived and worked in that country continuously from anywhere from five to eight years. The employer who has sponsored you, to come over, has to show that that employer has also employed five Turks to every one foreign worker that comes in. You have to learn Turk, Turkic, the language, and you have to prove, and I'm,

this is where I think the conversation needs to exist right here at this point, because I don't think it's easy, and I don't have all the answers. You have to prove some level of assimilation into Turkey, okay, into Turkish culture, into the Turkish way of life. Now, how do they measure that? Who judges it? I don't know. But I put out a post yesterday, tinfoil in two days, and I said, you know, these are naturalized citizens, these guys, and they're not fit to be an American. And, you know, some of the people who disagreed with me says, who are you to decide who is fit to be American? Okay, well, I'm not proposing myself to be the emperor over all immigration. But if we can't agree that a person that wants to provide material support to ISIS and then

ends up shooting a college isn't fit to be an American. What the hell? Like, what does it mean to be an American? That's like a minimum bar. And when a naturalized citizen comes to the United States, they do take an oath, you know, of allegiance to the United States, dedication to the United States. And I would say somewhere along the way, you have failed that oath. You have failed that test. And I'm suggesting whatever that test is at the front end needs to be much higher. And I'm willing to explore what do the Turks do? How do they measure assimilation? Like, make a simulation a requirement before naturalization, not a hope after naturalization. You follow?

Yeah. Do you think that's controversial at this point? Like, I mean, in what I've proposed? I'm trying to think of what, you know, people I know on the left would say. And they would probably just say, well, it's not everyone, right? It's not every Muslim person who comes to this country. So how do you differentiate that? I mean, it's just not an argument anymore.

If these things keep happening, there's no defending it. Well, let me respond to that on two sides. I'm not just talking about Muslims. Okay? I'm talking about assimilation and allegiance to the United States no matter where you come from. And also, I'm not talking about all Muslims being denaturally. I'm not talking about that. But I am talking about that anybody that can't prove up a willingness to be dedicated

to the propositions of the United States and assimilate to those propositions, forget propositions, way of life and culture is not fit to be an American. That's got to be a test. And will there be some that satisfy a test? Absolutely. Absolutely, there will be some to pass that test. We've lost a love for this country and a lot of people. A lot of people have lost love for this country.

So they don't think that someone who comes here needs to love this country either. And that's the divide right there. That's exactly right. If you were throwing a party and you were putting a guest list of people to come over to the party, and you were like, well, shouldn't we start with people that might want to come to the party that might enjoy the party? Or should we invite to people that are going to trash the party? Exactly. We're going to invite these hooligans that are going to come over and trash the party.

Like you're going to invite somebody to stay at your house over the weekend. You apply these standards to every aspect of your life. Why would you not apply it to your common civic culture and your country? Why would you not? Like, what's the, what's the benefit there to the greater society? Have you seen the Nick Shirley? Go ahead. Have you seen the Nick Shirley man on the street stuff in Dearborn, Michigan, about, I think it was November?

And he asked some Muslims on the street, if America was in a war with a Muslim country, who would you back? America or the Muslim country? And they said that they would support the Muslim country. Of course. So would a lot of the left? That seems like, I mean, you can lie about that on a naturalization quiz or test, but that's a barometer for me right there. Like, hey. That give away.

Okay. You're about to be naturalized as an American. Just, let's just say, you come from, let's just pick a country not to offend, right? I don't know. Norway. What's the most benign country we can come from? Norway. Okay, you're coming here from Norway.

Hey, by the way, if the United States got into a war with Norway, would you be, with Norway or the United States? And if in any way, and if his eyes squint and he thinks for a moment, you know, if the answer isn't instinctually and immediately the United States, sorry, we're going to have to send you back. Yeah. You know, by the way, my test, you guys, I've told you this, my test would be, okay, so here, my test would be stricter. Okay. In the Olympics, if the United States is competing against Norway and bobsled, who are you rooting for?

The United States or Norway. If you can't say the United States, I don't think you belong in the United States. A lot of the left, I was just telling you this, a lot of the people I know on the left Democrats are not rooting for the U.S. baseball team in the World Baseball Classic. I know no one cares, but it's our country. It's our team. De naturalize. Denaturalize. They're like, go Canada, go Mexico, go Italy.

I hope you beat the U.S. I'm like, what are you guys talking about? This is our country. This is the only one I have. I'm rooting for my team. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation. on naturalization and denaturalization of immigrants to America on Wilcane Country. Welcome back to Will Cain Country.

We're still walking through these terrible attacks in Michigan and Virginia and having a real conversation about legal immigration. You know, okay, let's get substantive for just a moment. Pat, you were talking about this. You may have known this, and I'm willing to admit my own ignorance on a lot of this. And, you know, for those of you watching and hang out with this, you can learn with me. man, I spent some time on the rabbit hole this morning on some of the immigration policy historically in the United States. So Congressman Andy Ogles, who's been in a lot of trouble this week for different things that he's posted, getting a lot of heat, he did say he is proposing, by the way, doing away with the Hart Sellers Immigration Act of 1965.

And that got me really curious about various things. So you've often heard, well, the United States has always had a high foreign-born population. And that's not true. That's not true. We've gone through waves of this at various times in our country, right? We had a high foreign-born population in the early 1900s. And then it plummets, starting in about 1917 to 1924. And from my research, there's two things that happened that caused that plummet.

So most of the early 1900s immigration to the United States was from Europe. Originally from northern and western Europe, but then it had moved into eastern and southern Europe. So it was Poles. It was Italians in the early 1900s. Well, first, World War I starts. And World War I, I think we had immigration waves of about 1.9 million or so a year, 1.7, 1.9 million a year. World War I starts, and the waves of immigration from Europe shut down, because all those people that were immigrating are now conscripted and co-opted into armies and they're fighting in World War I. But the second thing that happens is the Immigration Act of 1917, and then the follow-on Immigration Act of 1917, and then the follow-on, Immigration Act of 1919.

And those put strict quotas on immigration and really capped numbers and refocused immigration, by the way, largely to coming from Europe and northern and western Europe. And it completely shut down immigration from Asia. What you see then happen is immigration as a percentage of the population plummets from 1924 to about 1965. Then in 1965, Congress passes the Heart Sellers Act. Okay. One of the key sponsors of the Heart Sellers Act is Senator Ted Kennedy. It was pushed by progressives. It was signed by Linda Baines Johnson. And Ted Kennedy at the time says this is going to be, this is going to have a small impact on immigration.

At this point, immigration has dropped off significantly. He's like, it's going to have a small impact on it. And these are the words of Ted Kennedy. It will not disrupt the ethnic mix of America. That's what he says. But what does the Hart Sellers Act do? It does away with the quotas of previous immigration laws according to countries. You know, we used to focus.

This from this country, this from this country, this from this country. And it ties it to two things. Employment prospects, skills and employment prospects, and family reunification. Now, family reunification. Patrick, you probably saw me texting about this a minute ago. I had no idea. I've always known about it, but I had no idea how big family reunification is. You've also heard it deemed chain migration.

Okay? So immigration from 1965, it takes a few years, but it then begins to explode. Explode. Like, in a way that I would have to think, and I'm sure there's going to be some people listening, like, no, this was all coordinated, this was all planned. It explodes in a way that I don't think anybody could have actually anticipated. Like, I don't think even the drafters of this knew what would happen. They may have seen the benefits or expected some benefits, meaning Democrats saw it as a potential avenue to getting a new voting constituency. But European immigration continues to decline.

Latin American immigration explodes, goes way up. And Asian immigration goes way up later, decades later, but they become the two primary drivers of American immigration, Asian and Latin American. 10 to 15 percent. So now you're talking about we have over a million. I'm talking, we're not talking to illegal immigration. This is only legal. So now you're back up above like the million range every year. Million plus legal immigrants coming in every year.

Tell me, Dan, if this doesn't blow your mind. You know the legal immigration. What do you presume? How are those legal immigrants coming here? What do you presume? Why and how? Work visas, I would assume. Coming to work going to school? That's what you presume. 10 percent, 10 to 15 percent are coming on employment. Seventy-five percent is under family reunification and chain migration. So the way this works is you can sponsor your parents, you can sponsor your parents, you can sponsor. sponsor your kids. You can sponsor your brother and sister. And they get in the pipeline to become legal citizens. And then once they are, they can sponsor their kids, their parents. And it goes on and on and on and on and grows like that to the point that seven to eight hundred

thousand a year are coming in under family reunification. And you can just see this exploding, you see, exploding chain of events. Which, by the way, here. Yeah, there's the birthright citizenship as well. Well, yeah, no, you're exactly right in terms of those wouldn't be qualified under foreign-born population, obviously. That would be under American citizen.

But that would be definitely the growth in population from the initial legal immigrant, so that one legal immigrant leads to a massive explosion in the change of America. Okay. Well, so what, Will, so what? Well, the so what is if people are coming over for reasons, other than the desire to be an American, perhaps to be living with their family, even the job, whatever. But I would say the job is obviously a greater, it's a greater barometer. It means you're bringing certain kinds of people over there and have a certain level of investment with a certain education and a certain able to contribute to society and a, successful manner. But the family reunification, it blows all that out of the water. It blows all

that out of the water. You're bringing people in with no discernible skills, no ability to add to the society, and questionable allegiances and dedication to the United States of America. And you wonder why, you wonder why, then I have these stats. We shared them. 52% of legal immigrant households in America are on welfare. Second generation, It drops down somewhat to, I believe, it's in the 30s. Third generation, it goes back up into the high 30s. So you're talking about three generations of legal immigrants, with over a third of it on welfare, far outpacing, by the way, native-born population.

And you can track it all back to, well, what's bringing these people to America in the first place? And the answer we know now is family reunification, chain migration. that started in 1965. So the first part of this conversation I want to have, and I would have with any of these people, these lawmakers, is I think Ogles is on the right path. You've got to revisit the process of becoming a legal immigrant. And therefore, at a minimum, dedication to the United States,

love of this country, and desire to assimilate into this country. And we have a process right now that puts that nowhere, nowhere, on the priority list. Nowhere. And then we wake up one day and you've got naturalized citizens and the children in New York of naturalized citizens who now wish ill on this country, want to destroy this country. Look at some of the rhetoric coming out of some place like Dearborn, Michigan. The rhetoric is insane. You've seen these from these mosques or these places what they're saying, that you should join Hezbollah rather than the American army.

You know, you talked about that Somali video. I've seen stuff out of Dearborn Michigan, Patrick, of them saying stuff like that. I encourage all of you. American left. American citizens, too. It's not just, you know, foreign-born. So it's being perpetuated. Okay.

Fair. Fair. But we got to deal with one problem at a time. And if you can't deal with importing this problem, how are you ever going to deal with... Well, are you proposing we denaturalized lefties? Absolutely not. I don't know what you're getting at there. Dan, Dan, I think he would be...

You're gone, Dan. You're gone, Dan. No, no, no, no, no. You're out. I just said I love U.S. sports, so. Okay, one more, and then I want to get to, one more element on this, and I want to talk about tipping, because I actually think I love this topic, Patrick, the tipping thing. What are the metrics, by the way, just that you would see if someone's, like, loves this country?

Or. Okay. This is where the conversation should be, Dan. This is where I don't have all the answers. And I'm going to come back to that, okay? I'm not dodging that. See, because I'm going to tell you where I'm not, I have no patience or tolerance for this conversation to exist. Racist, xenophobic, whatever.

I don't care. Take that stuff and go yell at Qatar. Because this is the way Qatar does it. This is the way Turkey does it. This is the way that every country in the world does it. We're the only country. Us in Canada and Australia are really the only countries in the world that don't do it this way. In fact, the rest of Europe is beginning to move in this direction.

Austria, Hungary, Sweden, Germany. They're all having this conversation because this is what responsible adults talk about when they talk about the preservation of civilization and culture. Ridiculous people, ridiculous people, yell racist at everything. That's what I think. We have a common culture. I don't care what race you are. I don't care where you come from if you can adopt the common culture.

That's what it is. The dedication, the values, the way of life. That seems a pretty, pretty clear. prescription for a healthy society. Because I'm not done, Dan, in speaking to Schmidt and Moore and all these guys, which, by the way, since we're streaming live on X today, you know what I would love to do? Okay, everybody here is like, Will, we want you to do X more. We want you to do that.

Do X spaces. I'm like, what am I going to do on an X space? You know what? This is it. Invite Schmidt or Moore to do an X space right now. Because I want to know, can you invite them to this? I want to know back to the denaturalization thing. I think all this list that I have here from Schmidt and Moore and Flynn are good.

But I think there has to be more. Like, if you have somebody who is advocating for the downfall of America, okay, not a simple political disagreement, but advocating for the downfall of America, encouraging their adherence to join foreign armies, I think this should be a trigger for denaturalization. I think we should be able to look at your ideology and the things that you're espousing and say, hey, your oath to the United States of America has clearly been violated. And the standards, by the way, for denaturalization is fraud, if you committed fraud in the process, or a material lie or something like that.

Well, and usually that's about, I think it's like if you ever been convicted of a crime in a foreign country and some things like that or you lied on your application in some way, about your name. But in that application, if you lied about your dedication to America, that, to me, is a material breach of your naturalization process. And I think that we, now here's the hard part. Just like the naturalization process, damn, the denaturalization process, you're starting to start asking tough questions. The tough questions is, what does it mean to be assimilated? What is, what is violating the oath to America? And obviously, you're going to run into some First Amendment issues.

Like, and you're going to say, well, where is reasonable political. You have to watch Say it by the Bell. That's a no-brainer. You need to have seen Lonesome Dove. Yeah, like, do they, can they look at your social media accounts and see if you've posted anything disparaging towards the U.S. government or the country? You can already hear the debate. The debate's going to be one over free speech.

Right. And they're going to say, are the naturalized citizens have conditional rights that, that, that, that Native Board of American citizens' rights are absolute on the First Amendment. But the answer is, I think this needs to be, I think this bar needs to be yet even higher. Because I don't think you can have a population living in your country that is openly espousing, violence, danger, and treason against the country, and still go, well, you know, you're an American now. You got to, yeah, but you lied. You lied about your process.

You lied about your dedication. to this country. So whether or naturalization or denaturalization, I think that bar needs to be raised much higher, and that's where the conversation should exist. We can't shut it down with First Amendment. We have to have the conversation there at that point. How are we going to decide these things? That's a responsible conversation. How are we going to decide these things? Because what we have done over the last 60 years since 1965 is totally blow out the concept of patriotism, dedication to America, by allowing people from across the world to move into America who don't really care about being in America at a minimum perhaps for their own financial interest, their own economic benefit, but more so even to be with their family and now sit here within our own borders and advocate for the downfall of America. I think that's where we have to take this conversation.

I'm willing to admit you have to go step by step along the way, but that's, I don't know, that's where I am today. So let's talk about it, Senator Schmidt. Let's talk about it. Congressman Moore. Let's begin to have that conversation. By the way, everyone in the comments section can contribute. If you have ideas on that, I'm willing to hear them out. Like, how do we start to?

And maybe you can't. You know, Gad's sad, has says this often. You can't. You can't. You can't parse out. And so, you know, he openly, when he comes to Islam, says, you can't parse it out. Who's going to be dedicated and who's not? But it's like putting it back in the bottom.

Coming up, NFL star JJ Watt is asking the question we all need to know. In the frontier of tipping, what are we supposed to be doing at the counter on Will Cain Country? Welcome back to Will Cain Country, where now we need to explore one of the biggest debates in America. How much do you tip? Anyway, that's why we do it on Friday. We don't have everything worked out, but this is where we get into work out our thoughts. Okay, Patrick, you take it away. Talk to me about JJ Watt.

So JJ Watt was on X yesterday, I believe he was yesterday, and he asked a genuine question on a restaurant situation. He asked, you walk up to the counter to order. You find your own table and seat yourself. If you order coffee, you coffee, they hand you a cup and you go fill it up yourself. If you order food, they hand you a buzzer, and when it goes off, you pick it up yourself. The iPad has a 20%, 25%, 30% and other tip option with 20% percent. already pre-selected. What is your move?

And it's got people, tons of people talking about this, about the reality of tipping in today's culture, where everything's more automated. Boy, JJ is on to something here. I mean, what, we have strong opinions. We have real, okay, well, let's just lay this out. The tipping thing, it's, it's everywhere now.

Right? It's all digital. Nobody questions whether or not if you sit down at a restaurant and you have a server, tipping. But the walk through, JJ described a situation, by the way, where I think the answer has to be zero. Like, you're filling up your own coffee even, you know? But, like, he didn't even describe Starbucks. Starbucks, you go to the counter and you order it and they make it for you and give it to you. and you still have the tip option right there.

And yeah. Yeah, I tip that. But every time I'm like, is this a tipping scenario? All the lines, whenever you never sit down, whenever you stand and you only stand, my brain goes, is this a tipping scenario? Right? Unless you're getting a sandwich made, then maybe.

Like from scratch. Like, Chipotle? No, like a deli, right? Like, I'll throw some bucks. Do you tip a Chip a Chip at Chipoli? No, actually, you're right. That's fast food, though. It's different because they actually pay their employees well.

Why? That's the problem. Do you tip subway? No, because they pay their employees better than, say, some other restaurant or coffee shop. The entire system is built off a tipping system because I have a lot of friends who've worked in these things. Yeah, how do you know what they make? Like, do you have the budgets? Yeah, fast food restaurants actually pay their employees fairly well.

I used to work in fast food and it was Great Okay But the tipping thing What about if you go like a smooth What if you go to a smoothie shop Like like a smoothie king or Jamba Juice?

If I have a dollar I will Well everything's digital now To his point You're not It's never cash tipping If something's made Everybody's either Apple pay or credit card

I would consider But I am So there's the iPad I'm very against it It's swung around to you And it's preset to 20% No, absolutely not. By the 15 isn't even on the menu anymore.

There's always an option. You ever notice that? 15 isn't even on... I know. No, you have to press the other button. 15 anymore. Yeah. Yeah, you have to go to other.

And boy, don't just feel like a dirt bag if you do that. They look at you like, man, you're an a-hole. Like, what are you doing? You know, as somebody did bring this up, like, they were... I don't remember what it's called, but it was like an in-between person who completes the orders. and gets the orders ready to go. There's a word for it. I can't remember.

But, um, huh? Like a busse boy? No, not Buster. It's like they're the middle person that get like prepares. You're just talking about the thing between a, not a waiter or waitress,

um, not totally self-serve, but just right there in between. Yeah. There's a term for it we used to have. I can't remember. But, um, but like,

you know, they, like, if you go and pick it up or something like that, I do throw a few dollars there away. I don't tip 20% or 30%. You know, I'm pretty good about that when we sit down. But like if it's, I'll still throw a few dollars, you know,

just because I know that somebody has to prepare it and prep it and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but to JJ's point, the throwing a few dollars, I feel like is a cop out. I don't think either of you are carrying around wads of ones. I think your stripper days are well behind both of you. And I don't think you have a pocketful of ones. Got a lot of kids. And so. I got to support them somehow.

You're, you are most definitely carrying digital payments. Credit cards are Apple Pay. And so now you're in the iPad scenario. And you're talking about $10.15. In that scenario. If it gets up there. Are you, are you hitting other? I'm going, no, I'm not going to do.

You're a other. You're a no. I'm a no. Sorry. But like, these companies are setting themselves up. These owners are setting up. So we, the consumer, are paying their employees for them. They should be paid higher rates like in Europe, like in the rest of the world, get paid actual wages.

So we're not paying their employees for them. And so they get away with not paying their employees and then we have to tip them. Yeah, but everybody says we have better service than Europe. That's true. Because of this. Because of tip culture. Like they tolerate you at best. For example, I have a bodega right down the street.

from my place, right? So say I go get a couple of things. So say I get a six pack of beer, you know, some gum or whatever. And they turn the thing around. What a good night. Sure. They turn the thing around. It just happened

yesterday. I don't know, man. What a party. Six pack of beer and some gum. I was going to say Gary, but... Nice. A little Netflix. Maybe a black and white cookie. I don't know. Let's get wild. But so there are things that I grabbed in the store.

I brought up to the front, and I'm paying with my card, and all they're doing is ringing it out. And there's a tip option. It's 20, 25, 30, so on and so forth. I go there a lot. Right. And I never tip. Because what is happening? Oh, they hate you.

That's your regulars, too. I know. I'm a regular. I'm an absolute regular. But if I get a sandwich made there, I will tip. What did the reply say to JJ Watt? What are the people think on this? This is what it is.

In the end, we're all going to fit in. We all think we're unique. We're going to make some big stand like Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs. And we're not. We're not. We all fit into what everybody else is doing. You don't want to be the outcast. So what is everybody doing?

Can we talk about this openly? Hey, what are y'all doing? Are you all tipping? Are you not tipping? What are we doing? No one's here. We could talk about it. So one of your brethren in the comments there,

Huckham says, I tip simply because I know that the servers live in poverty. With your vast amount of wealth, you should also do that. And JJ said, I did tip, obviously. There were no servers in the situation, which is why I asked the question. It was fully self-service. Have you ever done a huge tip out of restaurant, well? I don't think this is a big moral thing. This is not like, oh, like that guy put JJ on defense because he's talked about how much money JJ made.

And then JJ's like, well, yeah, I do tip, definitely, because I can't be that guy. But we're not talking about, honestly, we're not talking about being cheap or being moral. We're talking about this is a new frontier in societal assumptions. You know, if JJ Watt and I both sat down to dinner and the assumption is we're going to tip, now we can make judgments on each other on how much you tip. And it used to be 15% was standard. 20% was like, oh, that was a nice tip. And 10% was like, what was wrong with the meal?

And we all knew that, right? We all knew that. And there's been tip inflation. I think 20 is the new 15. And 25 is a nice tip. I don't know who's doing 30 because they offer 30. This is what I think. Really good tip.

20 is a good tip. 25 is like, wow, nice job. And 15 is now like, hmm. I wonder what they were displeased with, right? But the point in this self-service world that he's describing and in the line world is none of us know. We're living on the societal frontier here. There's no assumptions baked in. We don't know what our neighbors are doing.

We don't know what the next guy is doing. And we don't know what the level of expectation is. So we're all bumping around in the night figuring this out, you know, like by grail. And we don't know. And that's why we're talking about. What? We don't know what they're tipping. Conservatives too better than liberals?

No, we're just saying like, We know everything about everybody these days except how they're tipping. We know your political views, what you're wearing, what kind of makeup you... And that's what J.J. is trying to figure out. So I don't like that guy going. You make a lot of money. No. Jay J.J's trying to figure out. What world do I live in? Like, what's the world now. We don't know the world. That's what we're all trying to figure out. What's the world like? Someone else said, the tipping is for servers who make $2.19 an hour, not for counterclerks making $12 an hour, period.

That's the problem. Stop the guilt. which is true. I mean, that's why you tip. They get a lower wage as well. But do you think those owners are lowering the counter? No. Are the owners lowering the counter clerk salaries now because tipping is proliferating in that scenario?

No, it's just extra. It's gravy. Yeah, I don't think for counter employees. And John Taffer actually talked about this a little bit. Like, you know, like the prices, the rising prices and restaurants. And he's like talking about, you know, people are freaking out over things going up so much. But there are people, he did say that there are restaurateurs who have taken advantage of inflation in order to raise their prices just because they could. And it's actually making the industry worse off. And I think that's kind of a similar situation where with the tipping thing, I think they're just taking advantage of the situation.

Did this come about during COVID? Is that what happened? I don't know. Was it tied to COVID? It does feel like it's been online tipping. In this scenario. Yeah. I feel like it was one of those COVID things that flew under the radar.

All right. As we wind it up here today, this is an even tougher debate than the tipping debate. You sent this morning, Patrick, and this really, really, I mean, I, I got high-centered on this. Not tough. I know it's not tough for you. Okay. All right, the tweet is from Onyx. You can only watch one group for the rest of your life.

Which one are you choosing? Group A, Masters, the Major League Baseball postseason, the college football playoff, and the Stanley Cup playoff. I know you're both picking that. Group B is NFL playoffs, March Madness, NBA playoffs, and FIFA World Cup. So I know both of you are for sure A, right? Yeah. Yeah. Postseason baseball, the Masters?

Are you kidding me? Playoff hockey Hockey is literally the best Of all of them It's the most exciting thing of all time Yeah The worst is college football playoffs And that's still great

Yeah That's my number one That's the hardest for one For me to give up For sure FIFA Like if I'm ranked Whatever Mr. Europe

If I'm ranking these If I'm ranking these It would go for me Like my favorite is College Football Playoff then NFL playoff. And then it might be FIFA World Cup. Yes.

And then March Madness. I could live without it. And then it's going to be Masters or NBA. But the NBA, see, the thing is, and I love the NHL too. I watched last night, the NHL. But for the NBA and the NHL, that's only if the Dallas Stars and Dallas Mavericks are making runs. I won't watch them much if my team.

is not involved. You don't like to show. I will watch the college football playoff no matter who's in it. You know? Do it for the love of the sport. And same thing with the, and so same thing with the World Cup in the NFL playoffs. I will watch that. Even if America is out early, I'll continue watching the World Cup. Which we will be. The Masters. By the way, mostly baseball postseason is also Rangers dependent. Totally Rangers dependent. See, that's, I love baseball. You are. You are. dependent. Yeah, everything about you is dependent on if your teams do well. I don't even know if you're a real sports fan. I think you're a Dallas sports fan. Just Dallas sports.

I think that's what it in soccer. I just told you the ones that I just told you the one. I just told you the ones I'll watch without my teams being involved. Yeah, but that's not that much. Both footballs and soccer. Listen, March Madness is coming up. It's extremely overrated. If it didn't have the first two days,

like if we didn't have that, By the time it's over, everyone's out. No one cares. I would take off work for the entire Masters tournament. I sit there and watch every minute of it. I think it's the most amazing fun weekend to watch. I don't know if anyone else. I like it when I do it, but I'm just not one of these guys.

It's a huge golf, like every minute of golf on the majors. I'm usually a Sunday guy. I watch on Sunday. I tell my wife, don't bother me. March Madness, Patrick, you're not wrong. But it's got so much nostalgia built into it for me that I have a hard time admitting that it's getting to what it is. Like in my lifetime, March Madness would have been a top threeer on this list. Yeah.

And the fact that we don't know any of the players involved, that's totally destroyed it, right? The one in done thing and the transfers has totally destroyed it. I'm not making a moral argument on it. But like this, we just have to recognize that that has happened to March Madness. It just has destroyed our ability to connect with these teams and these players. I will tell you, Patrick, to your point, if the stars are in the NHO playoffs, and there's nothing that match. I mean, it is so great when you're invested in it. I just can't feel the same thing when I'm not invested in it.

I just, will you watch it even if the Panthers aren't involved at all? Well, I'm going to have to, but yes, I definitely will be. We suck this year, but we're retooling and going to be back next year to win it again. But I will definitely be watching because there are so many good teams. And it's like you're just on the edge of your seat the whole time. And it doesn't even matter if it's your team. It's like, especially if you get into overtime. Can we just say something else about hockey really quick?

So fun. Hockey is a sport that has done a good job, I think. I went to a Stars game on Friday. You guys know I went with John Androsic. I'm so jealous. Five for fighting for another program. I just told the chat. And innovation in hockey,

Patrick may disagree with this. Three on three overtime is great. And then a shootout at the end of three on three overtime. I don't know. It's pretty great. Like, I think it's a pretty awesome way. It's fun to watch, but it's bad for the sport. It's bad for the sport, fun to watch.

What do you want? I like three. You win three is good. Keep it regular? For regular season. Yeah, because it just takes down like all the Canada people were complaining because they're like, oh, US won because there's only three on three. So, you know, anything is possible.

Okay, they can shut up. They won a gold medal, like a few Olympics ago on four on four. Sure. Okay. So it's like they can shut the hell out. But it creates an excuse. I'm tired of them whining. You know what I mean?

But you have, they had, they're three. were like three of the best players in the world. Like, what are you bishing about? I know. I agree with you, but. Like, you should have won with the three best players in the world. He's been waiting for this still. Patrick Fred Deport and denatialized the Canadians.

All Canadians. Includes your family, Dan. Not all with us. It was, I mean, there are people, there are great Canadians like Norm MacDonald. Get them out. No longer with us. But, yeah, I mean, or one of our guest hosts next week, Karen Berg, I believe, is from Canada.

If you say A, you're gone. Yeah. I'm tempted to pick B, by the way. But I think I... You would. Yeah, I'm picking B. I'm picking B. The college football playoff cannot overcome NFL, World Cup, and March Madness for me. Can't overcome it.

We need to have a question. And I think the entire world would take, obviously, B. We need to have a question about a conversation about, like, taking away your voting rights. I think. We can't trust you. Yeah. Me? Me? Yes. This is terrible. See, this is the world I want to live in. I want to live in a world where I can be called before an immigration judge because of my take on this. And I want to be able to make my case. I want this world where everybody and, I mean, it wouldn't really matter because you wouldn't get to nominate me. I've deported you a long time ago, Patrick. You've had a whole host of takes that have put you, you were, you never even got in, Dan, because. Yeah. For a variety of reasons. I'm excited to see how many people on our new platforms take everything we say absolutely. I know.

So that's... I can't wait. Okay. That is... Before we leave. Before we leave. What? Yes.

Go ahead. You're off next week. So just so the people know... I am off next week. We get a great lineup of guest hosts. Aaron Berg, comedian is going to fill in on Monday. Tom Shaloo on Tuesday. Tim Young, who's a friend of the program,

is going to be on Wednesday. And Michael Mous is going to be in your studio on Thursday, filling in. Nice. Join us. Michael's going to be here in Dallas on this studio? Yeah, this studio. Look at Michael.

Awesome. Yeah. See, Michael may get us canceled. That's what I was worried about. I said that to Patrick. I was like, are you sure about this? He's not, I was like, Michael got approved?

He got approved? Yeah. Yeah. I just do what I want. By the bosses? Yeah, apparently. I'll be on spring break next week. But you can always catch us, Monday through Thursday, live at YouTube, maybe increasingly

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