Will Cain Country - From The Vault: Freedom And Food with Kelsey Grammer & Chef Andre Rush

Episode Date: September 7, 2026

On this special Best of Labor Day edition of Will Cain Country, we reflect on the foundational principles of our nation as America quickly approaches her landmark 250th birthday. First, legendary actor, comedian, and director Kelsey Grammer joins Will to sound the alarm on why we cannot afford to lose sight of our true history, diving into his FOX Nation special, 'The Patriot War,' and the hard-fought meaning of American freedom. Then, legendary Celebrity Chef Andre Rush shares what it takes to cook for the leader of the free world and previews his new FOX Nation special, ‘American Kitchen: An America 250 BBQ.’ Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And then... It stopped. Sometimes the moments that never happen matter most. Volvo's automatic emergency braking helps ensure a safe ending for everyone. Learn more at VolvoCars.caps.caps.com. Happy Labor Day and welcome to an episode of Will Kane Country where we go back to the vault. Coming up, legendary actor and host Kelsey Grammer joins me to dive into his Fox Nation series, The Patriot War. We talk about why America's founding fathers were far from powdered wig dandies, why young men laid down their lives for liberty, and how we can recapture the true spirit of American history.

Take a listen. Hey, Kelsey. Hey, man, how's it going? Thanks for having me. Good. It's good. Yeah, it's good to have you back. It's good to have you back. And you're back. Talking about American history, this time it's up at Fox Nation. I think six episodes or three are up and three more are coming, I think, this weekend, where we look at the stories, you know, from the beginning of the nation. But beyond the stories, what I like about this, Kelsey, is it's the process of, in part, telling us about. these men, the men that become simply larger than life figures in our textbooks and literally statues that we see when we walk by.

George Washington, Alexander Hamlets, and Thomas Jefferson. But they become real men in this process of the Patriot War. Yeah, I think we have an obligation to revivify these guys as they were. You know, I mean, they aren't, I mean, it's one

of the most common sort of snubs about our founding fathers is that there was a bunch of old white guys, Well, they were really just a bunch of young men who were willing to die for something they believed in. We tend to obscure that a bit when we refer to them as just a bunch of powdered-wig dandies. These guys were fighting for a new form of government that has never been tried before at the time. And they made a difference. They made a difference that still refracts through our lives today.

And it's worth noting. It's worth praising them for it. It's worth thanking them for it. I think the adjective that you used it that we don't fully appreciate often is they were young men. These guys were really young. Like, what was Jefferson when he was tasked with sitting down and writing the Declaration of Independence? Thomas Jefferson was 33 years old. When he wrote the Declaration of Independence, perhaps the most important political document in history.

And that puts him on the older end, right? Some of these guys were in their 20s. I think early 20s are back for some of them. More of the Rablerouser guys were more in their 20s. And of course, Washington was a little bit older, but he'd fought in a war before. He'd been, you know, he was battle seasoned, I guess you could say. But of course he hadn't had great successes, but he did have great courage. And that had been marked and documented and people understood that this was a man capable of extraordinary self-sacrifice.

And that's who they needed at the top of a nation that would actually be about. guaranteeing liberties for every person alive. I mean, that was an extraordinary experiment. Let's talk more about Washington. He's the subject really of the first episode of the Patriot War. So you talked about he hadn't necessarily met with a ton of victories before he was handed over this army. But then, interestingly, he didn't meet with immediate success either. He lost two major American cities within about a year's time frame, Philadelphia, and what was it? is it Boston, the other one that he had lost. And yet, New York, did anyone, did he, did anyone ever second-guess the choice for Washington to lead the Continental Army?

Well, we don't know about it. There's not a lot of people that said, oh, yeah, I'd rather do it instead. I'd do it better than George would. I don't remember ever hearing that anywhere. But I think they all understood that he was probably the only guy who had the sort of the stones to pull it off. even though they knew that they were going against something extraordinarily large and difficult and challenging. And he had proven himself in that world before. He had come out not unscathed from the French Indian War,

but he actually blossomed from that as a man capable of extraordinary valor and conscience. And that was what I think was the character-building part of him that actually made them understand that this was the right man for the job. And then, and part of this, I think, I believe in one of these episodes as well, you talk about the attempted assassination of George Washington, which is not a story

that you hear a lot about. What is the story behind the attempted assassination? Well, Benedict Arnold set up his friends. They were best friends. He was going to kill him. But they consistently, I mean, they put a bounty on his head right away. There was always an energy that was trying to take him down. George Washington was, you know, public enemy number one for the English.

I mean, he was the guy at the top of the food chain. He was the one that was, boy, they got him, they're done. You get the chief. He's gone. You know, the whole cause is lost. But he was just a remarkable guy, his tenacity, his understanding of what it was to actually spirit people onto something, to be able to hang in as long as he did. for certain things. I mean, he was fighting a war where a third of the people weren't interested.

They wanted to stay under British rule. Some of them left, and a third of the country didn't even care. One way or the other, the other third was with him. And it was his sort of force of will that actually sustained the movement, sustained the cost to the point where we actually won. It's amazing. And, you know, he said himself, how divided the country was that you just described. A third didn't care. as bad as it is now. A third was with the British? Yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And we got, you know, now we're, the battle lines are drawn again all the time, but most of them are just really political. There are some people bending the rules a little bit and going a little too far on the physical end of it and hopefully they'll be put down actually in time. Because, you know, violence is not the end, or it's not the means to an end, a good end in this country.

We have learned that the peaceful transfer power is the most important thing about this country. And I want to see that sustained. I'm quite upset about what's going on in terms of thinking people that can get in the street and start to riot and change things. It's effective in some ways, but we don't want to go back to the times what they were doing in Italy, you know, before I'll doche and stuff like that. They were really killing each other. And I see that sort of gleam in the eye of some people. It's not most.

I think most Americans still love America. but the noisy ones usually get the attention, and I'd like that to change. Well, it's interesting, Kelsey, not just get the attention, but I think you're right about your diagnosis of America. Most are not here, not in that mind state, not in that, don't have that gleam in their eye, don't have that lust for whatever is on the other side of,

I don't know what we call it, political violence, riot, destruction, whatever it may be. But even you talking about the world that George Washington fought a revolutionary war amidst where a third of the country doesn't care, a third is unionist and a third is perhaps revolutionary, it shows the power of at least not just to gain the attention, but to make serious, serious change. And when your country starts to go in that direction, it does make you wonder, where's the brake handle? You know, how do you slow that down? Yeah. Yeah. I think education is going to be the key, real education, an understanding that we are connected

to the same heartbeat that they had, a heartbeat that pulsed with freedom, and real freedom, individual freedom, the right to try, the things that actually are important to us. And I mean, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. Nothing guaranteed happiness, but you were given the right to try and to make sure that you did everything you could and your power to become the vision that you had for your life. And there's no other place like this. No other sort of set of things in place. There's no other group of things in place that actually will take you from one place, just

an inception of an idea to realizing that idea in such a short amount of time. This is the most powerful engine for human achievement ever. The capitalist free enterprise system that lives in America. And you can bemoan its shortcomings, and sure everything falls short a little bit, but We are able to fix it quicker and more fairly than any other government in the world. You know, my favorite prove-up of that right now, Kelsey, is the World Cup visitors coming to America and their revelation seeing, you know, the truth of America. And it's a form of, to the word you use is education. It's a form of education.

And perhaps it's the most compelling form of education, at least for those Europeans. Like, they're not going to go home the same. And the things that they hear in their media or in their classrooms about America will never be received in the same way. But when you say education, and obviously what you're doing here with this series is part of that education, I see two problems that you're trying to overcome. The first problem is that there's a bit of a rewrite of American history. So when you describe it the way that it accurately is, I believe, and the history that led to this, you know, there's a real, Well, what's the right word? There's a real revulsion or a real rejection of these stories.

There is a lens that is pretty popular these days, but from people who are really kind of in possession of extraordinary arrogance and ignorance at the same time, there is a group of people who consistently say, Thomas Jefferson, what an idiot to say that all men are created equal and yet he was a slave owner. I mean, the man wrote at the age of 33, probably the most important political document in the history of mankind. And they really think that he wasn't aware of the irony, that, yes, he grew up in a system of slave owners.

But they don't understand that in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, he talked about how the king had saddled them with the institution of slavery and its cruelty and how it had to go, it had to be gotten rid of. They don't talk about how Thomas Jefferson, when he was the President of the United States, introduced a bill that did not pass but to end slavery in 1803. They don't know this. So that's why I say it's a sort of a heady combination of ignorance and arrogance, because you can only take a look at something as extraordinary as the achievement of the Declaration of Independence

and dismiss it if you're arrogant. And to dismiss it on the grounds that they dismiss it means you're also ignorant. So, okay, I've put myself out there. That's how I feel. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Kelsey Grammer, the host of Fox Nations, The Patriot War, hosted by Kelsey Grammer, on Wilcane Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick.

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Well, I love it. I love that because that's exactly what I'm talking about, okay? But then there's a secondary education component, Kelsey, right? And it is that I think, perhaps more innocently, there's a lot of Americans who look at these stories, like you just said, through the lens of the powdered wig. Like, how do I relate to something that, you know, I'm astounded by, you know, man on the street interviews of what people know about American history, American figures. So our storytellers have an obligation to do this better. Well, tell me about that, because you're right. I think it's hard for people.

I think it's hard to reach back in history and turn these human beings. into somebody that you can relate to. Right, right. Well, that's the point. So you just have to come at it from a place where you recognize. So a guy like me or any other than other, a number of historians that we know, has an obligation to say, okay, you're this fella,

here's this fella, this is what you have in common. And those common bonds are the things we need to explore. And we have dropped that from our education system, which I think is unfortunate, but we can make up for it. And I've started this thing called the American Revelation, which is like a play on words with revolution. It's revealing the causes behind how we got to where we got. And if you reveal that these are men just like you, these are men just like us, these are young people just like us, people who had dreams and hopes and alliances and disappointments and tragedies, and they still fought for something they called freedom. Freedom is not a dirty word.

I actually think we've come a long way since maybe eight to nine years ago, and it almost seemed like freedom was a dirty word. But if people don't understand that the, like for instance, flying the American flag, the story behind what happened on the night Francis Scott Key wrote those words is extraordinary. There were a hundred English battleships out on the horizon of the sea. And Francis Scott Key was sent to negotiate. a prisoner swap, the British Admiral told him, he says, you see the flag over there,

that flag, he will not be there tomorrow. You may as well spend the night. So he spent the night on board that British man of war and prayed that the flag would remain standing. And the only way it stood and the only way it remained standing was that someone died and another man took his place. And another man and another man and another man and another man. And holding up that flag was a personal cost. And if we understand things like that, we'll fly the flag. We won't burn it anymore. We understand what it costs somebody. Some young man who had dreams and a family and hopes and believed in something bigger than himself rushed up and took a hit for this country. For us. He did it for us. And we won't betray them. Jefferson, Francis Scott Key, Henry Knox, George

Washington, Alexander Hamilton, these are of the characters. that are part of your series on Fox Nation. What was it going to ask you, Kelsey? Gosh, I was listening to you wax eloquently, and I was thinking about these characters. I care about it. Well, I love that. I know what I was going to ask you.

So you think about these guys through the lens of risk, right? And there's, and you touched on a moment ago, there is the risk, the bravery, the ambition to, that we see that this is almost easier to see through history, through time, the literal battle, the odds against the British. And then I think there's a tale on that character, that trait that carries America, this is my, I'm waxing now, for at least 100 years, 150 years, right, that meant that same kind of risk tolerance manifesting in pushing West or drilling oil or starting businesses. And I do think it's the cultural distinguishing factor that makes us different than Europe.

I think that, if you distilled it, it's that. Here's my question for you. We still have it? Do we still have that, Kelsey? Or have we become the spoiled children of history? No, I believe there are maybe some spoiled children among us. And maybe that can be laid at our feet, specifically maybe that's our fault. Maybe we did that. But there's still so much. many people that I mean my 13 year old daughter Faith is this extraordinary kid she spends a lot of time upstairs in her room but the stuff she's doing is amazing and it's hers she's an artist she's she's a digital artist it's not the way I would have done art when I was a kid but she's done some extraordinary things and this is this is the world where she lives she's not tired she's she's

relentless in her pursuit of this this gift she's been given that she's good at I mean I get inspiration all the time from young people and from the notion that you know that we're nervous that they're just spent all the time on their devices some will and we'll lose them i'm afraid but most kids i think now are poised to say you know we're putting these things down we don't need them as much as you think we do and that's american that's sort of intrinsically american there's something about the soil i don't know maybe it's in the water but it's there is this dream of freedom that still sort of beats the hearts of every person here. And it connects us directly to the founding fathers. I have this line. I say, the future wisdom of this nation still lives in the

words and deeds of our founding fathers. And I do believe that's true. And all we have to do is like, you know, agitate the retina, vibrate the chord a little bit and say, listen, let's play this music together still. It's the best music that ever was. you know i'm halfway um reticent to ask you about Alexander Hamilton because he's gotten so much ink uh you know over the past 10 years um but i i was i was thinking about Alexander Hamilton and in your stories here on fox nation you do show a little more of this guy and who he was and he was ridiculously ambitious um and um and unimpressed with the tasks given to him by george Washington thought of himself as more than a messenger and this kind of thing.

Do you like, did you, do you at the end of this process, do you like Alexander Hamilton? Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I like him. I mean, he was, he's clearly a patron. He's clearly, clearly willing to sacrifice himself. He just had a huge drive. And he had a notion about what heroic was, you know. He wanted to be heroic like George Washington was. He wanted to prove himself in battle. He wanted to do those sort of things. But his greatest gifts were not necessarily didn't fall into that category. But he actually did prove himself in battle. He actually did a pretty good job.

I think it was the men from Rhode Island. And he was very impressive in that role. Once he complained and whined enough to George Washington to say, please give me a commission. So he finally did. But the show Hamilton, for instance, is interesting. But they took a couple of liberties. They had to make fun of Thomas Jefferson.

You know, what did I miss and all that? None of that's particularly true, but it was fun, it was entertaining. And it brought to life in a way that young people could relate to it, what they were going through at a day-to-day level. And that was wonderful, and the passions and the betrayals, and the affair and all that stuff. I mean, it's nothing different than what we experience all the time now. I mean, Thomas Payne wrote about calumny.

Calumny is basically, and that's 250 years ago, and calumny is gossip, basically, is slander. We deal with it on a daily level in a political situation, and in our professional careers as well. People just have this thing about them. They like to go after others sometimes, and it's the smaller part of us that still gives into that stuff. But the greater angels that we have, they will rise to the occasion when they have. have to. I believe in America. I believe we're going to be fine. And, you know, damn the torpedoes. These guys, they'll be okay. We'll get past it. And they will too, honestly, I think. I think they'll see the wisdom in it of believing in America. The last question for you, Kelsey, because

you've mentioned him like three times, Jefferson. I'm curious, who is your favorite? You like Hamilton. Are these like your children? You're not going to tell me what your favorite was. episodes on each one of these guys. Who is your favorite? I like all of them. But it's, yeah, it's Thomas Jefferson. Because of his imagination, because of his scholarship and his ability, he got it. He was able to put into words what it is that we long for, what we hunger for. Washington was able to put it into action, to fight for it. But even Washington would tell you that he wasn't as eloquent. I mean, Washington did finally say, he said, listen, if anybody thinks we got here without a divine hand, without profit,

then you're all crazy. But Jefferson knew how to put it into language that everybody could understand. And of course what's interesting is now it's all in, you know, cursive. They don't teach cursive anymore in school. I don't think it's as diabolical as trying to distance us from our founding fathers because that's the way they wrote. But maybe. But Jefferson's my guy, yeah. I think Jefferson's my guy too, always has been. has been. I like Jefferson. And I like Kelsey

Grammer as well. Kelsey Grammer and Patriot The Patriot War hosted by Kelsey Grammer on Fox Nation right now. It's always good to talk to you. Kelsey, thanks for spending time with us today. It's a pleasure, man. Thanks. Thank you. That was Kelsey Grammer

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for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. Chef Andre Rush is one of the most uniquely impressive guys you'll ever meet. Celebrity chef, retired master sergeant, and former White House chef. We, including my friend of the show, Wade Stott, talk about cooking for four U.S. presidents and why he does over 2,200 pushups every single day for veteran suicide awareness. And his part, in the Fox Nation special, American Kitchen. check it out oh here's here's here's chef so i guess the chef wants in on this too

because dan just popped him up chef andrew rush joins us now um andre rush sorry god look at andre's andre's a little more built than the rest of us and it's unavoidable um i'm not offended chef i'm not offended wade i'm not offended Patrick by Stephen A's take. I'll let you go ahead first. Welcome to the show, Chef Andre Rush. Thank you for having me. And you know what? I'll be honest with you. I'm not offended either. I actually got a big laugh out of as a chuckle. You know, Stephen, he's always over-exaggeratory about everything he does and he makes it big and hard. And that's basically four the views and points

about it. But you know, like I said, I can't discriminate. Like you said, some of the best players in, you know, back from the Larry Burr days to fast forward. But you think about Toby, you think about other parts of it. It's just kind of that stigma that it has to be there. So that's what I think from it. But at the same time, you know, I wish I'm a Lakers fan. I'm here in Lakers, so it is what it is, and I'm going to give them all the praise for it.

Wait, wait, wait, at the same time, you wish what? There was a brother in the big three at the Lakers? I mean, I like diversity on part of it. Everybody was a representation of something to be there, especially with basketball. It's the token of it. You know, basketball started off that way. You know, it's like, you know, kind of like Tiger Woods coming to golf, you know,

but it's the same kind of switchover. Yeah. Okay, chef, I don't know if you know me, but I spent a lot of time at ESPN. And, you know, I'm going to tell you what I know. Okay, you tell me if you think I'm wrong. Okay. Black America culture thinks that it has a monopoly on basketball, that if you're not black, you really can't talk basketball.

Trust me, I was told. You don't know what you're talking about. Why? Because you're white. and therefore when somebody like, well, it's less Luca, we'll see in the coming years with Cooper Flag, or Caitlin Clark, for that matter, comes in and is awesome, there's going to be a little bit of antipathy towards it. It's going to be a little antagonism. And that's what Stephen A's actually playing on. He's playing on, what are you talking about?

Basketball is black. You can't win with your three best players being white. And I think that is underlying what Stephen A is saying. You know, I'm going to say this to you as simple as possible. And in elementary point of view from me, is that if you cut me and I cut you, we bleed red. There's no different color whatsoever. So it's not going to say mine is green or it's better or yours is the same or whatever. It's all equal across the board.

So I agree with that take on that. Yeah. So I need to say it to Stephen A now. But I'm not mad. Wade, I'm not mad. I can't do the thing where I get mad. I don't know why. I'm just not mad that he said that.

It helps that he's being funny. And, like, yeah, it is true that, like, Stephen A. Smith is a great entertainer. That's, that's, like, his job, right? So when you watch him, he is doing an entertainment show. I love that. But you talked about, like, yeah, people would be mad if somebody did it reverse and said, like, you can't win with a black head coach in the NFL, whatever. Like, I think that would be, like, it would be a better off if everybody could say that.

Like, if people could just argue and be like, what are you talking about? And, like, everybody goes, back and forth. That's fun. Like everybody having a good time being funny about it. Like, I think that would mean a lot more health. That's what would happen in real life. If we were all hanging out wherever it is at the barbecue, that's what would happen in real life. If chef Andre said to me, Lakers are never going to win, they're all white, I'd be like, I wouldn't get mad. I'd be like, you're an idiot. Yokic, Donchich, flag, and we'd all have fun talking about it. That's what would happen in real life. But it's not what happens on the, on the, on the end.

internet. Patrick, you like to get mad. So are you mad? No. I don't like basketball. Okay. So. Oh, you don't. I mean, it's just above soccer for me. I don't even, I have no idea. It is funny. I mean, Stephen A. Smith, there's a lot of games to watch, a lot of sports to keep up with. He's kind of on 24 hours a day at ESPN. And so I imagine that this is the kind of take that you would have if you weren't following the sport and just saw pictures of the team. You'd just be like, You need to have an entertaining take for TV. Like, I'm going on the show in 20 minutes. I don't know.

What are the teams even look like? Okay. And he spins gold out of that, you know, yarn or whatever. There's also summer. It's like, you've got to talk about something, you know? That's true. He's only going to get so much run out of the World Cup over it, over on first take. He's not going to get that much run.

So he's got to go to this. All right. Chef Andre Rush is with us here, as you can tell. He's celebrity chef. He's featured on Fox Nation's American Kitchen Season. to an American 250 barbecue. He's also a former White House chef and a retired master sergeant. Okay, so which presidents, chef have you cooked for at the White House? Bush, Clinton, Obama, and Trump.

Bush, Obama, and Trump? Is that what you said? And what about Biden? Clinton. Clinton. No, he was after him. First Trump. First Trump, then Biden came into it. Yeah. Okay. Tell me, if you would, like, well, tell me the difference, first of all, in their meal requests. Oh, that's loaded. I mean, you know, I try to explain to people very simple because they, one of the number one question, what's their favorite meal? You know, what do they like to eat and all that good things, whatnot? But you got to understand it's the president. They go everywhere. They eat everything. They're a little bit older. So they have a lot of diet. and you know, age restrictions, whatnot because everybody's trying to impress them with creams and butter's and all those things, even if they say, here's my restrictions on that part. So to be

honest with you, a lot of them are very simplistic. You know, I'll use like Trump, for instance. Trump, he has his comfort food, which you know is burglars and tacos and things, which I eat burgers and I eat a lot of beef, right? So the things they eat, you know, from like the Taramisus or red velvet cakes is just what they grew up. of some of the things they came from the pieces to, you know, bushing with the barbecue. They love simple simplistic, but at the same time, they try to keep into that regulation of health and diet. So did President Trump, did he like his stuff well done?

Is it just a rumor? Okay, okay, I just was curious. But he's always been that way. Everything, and I think it's kind of like one of those things where you get into it, where maybe if you were a kid, you got sick from something being undercooked or something, like you know that part and then you got you know um um sick from it and all of a sudden it's like okay cook all my stuff well done you cook the salmon well done burgers well done fish well everything well done i know boomers love that um boomers love well done you think i don't think that's true

i don't think that's true i think trump not the entire generation everything was Did you have two examples? Yeah. But Obama and Clinton were younger. So you had them in their 40s. So to the older thing, you know, I assume then, therefore, they had a little bit of a broader diet. So President Obama, you know, he was a fitness person. So, you know, he played basketball all the time.

He did his whole part of it. So his routines were on par. And a lot of times the wives that control their diet, you know, she, speaking of that, um, um, uh, Clint's wife, she would control what he'd because before social media was crazy like it is focusing on, you know, Donald Trump about the burgers. Clint was a diehard burger fan, very diehard if you guys know that, right? And she was like, yes. I remember. Yeah, exactly.

But it wasn't on social media. It wasn't that type of generation back then. Yeah, when he was running, there was that famous photo of him, like, stopping it fast. He'd go for a jog, and he'd be in all his jogging gear, but he'd stop at the donut shop or stop at the burger shop and get something like that. That's a car load. Did he lose weight with you? Did he lose weight? Because I feel like when he was running, he was heavy, but in my mind, somewhere he got thin.

I don't know if while he was in office he got thin. I think he got thin of why he was in office, but I don't know if that was from that I think it was from stress. I'm just to take a little weight off of you. Okay, people ask you what their favorite meals are. Here's what I actually want to ask you, because I think this meal defines your day. I know it does mine, okay,

and it sets the path for the rest of the day. It's breakfast. What do you do for breakfast? and I think if I eat healthy for breakfast, it's easier for me to keep going all day long, healthy. If I skip breakfast, then I'm super hungry by lunch and I'm going to make bad choices. So how did they start their day?

Who did what for breakfast? So a lot of them didn't eat breakfast. And if they did, it was sometimes very simplistic on that end of it, right? I mean, because a lot of people, like even myself, I'm a breakfast guy. I love breakfast, but I'm hard charging also. Like I got up at 3 o'clock this morning.

There's some push-ups, came out, working, working, working, I'm drinking my coffee. I haven't had breakfast yet, right? So on that part of it, you know, like for instance, I'll ask you, what do you, what's your token? Because I'm curious, what's your token for breakfast? All right, I got two. I go one of two directions for breakfast. I either eat Greek yogurt with hopefully a little fruit. And I like this protein cereal called Catalina Crunch so I can get more protein.

because I don't like eating yogurt without some crunch in it. I need something in there to chew on. So it's either that or eggs. I like eggs. If I can reduce the carbs with the eggs, I might throw a piece of toast in there or a tortilla, but it's based around eggs. You know, I like you.

You know what? Because that's my... You know, I do... I was doing 24, but I do 12 softball eggs a day. I eat 12 softball eggs. But my go-to is Greek yogurt, plain, nothing more. I use pure honey. I put it inside.

I use my protein crunch to go inside my bed. I get a little sweetness from, I like my crispy, crunchy apples with a little sweetness and that. So I cut them up fine. I put my bananas inside of it. I'll put my seeds and chide and everything inside of that. I'll mix it up in. I'll get all that from that.

Then I also do a homemade protein shake to get on. I haven't taken a lot of calories because I'm traveling so much. I'm exerting a lot of energy. I'm only like 280 pounds right now. So being down, right? So that makes me a little smaller than what I'm usually doing. The Greek yogurt thing, I'll tell you why it's one of my go-toes is ease. It's easy.

I don't have to cook anything. I just got to mix a few things together. And I use a bunch of honey, too. Because I buy the plain yogurt, no flavor, and then I put the honey in it. You get up early. You do 2,200 push-ups a day. why and how do you get them in? Why is they're not a workout?

They're my cause and my reason. 22 vets unfortunately commit suicide a day. Actually, that number is higher. You think about 44 because the military doesn't count for their spouses, the kids, that goes along with that. My whole platform is about suicide awareness, mental health. That's where I speak, what I do, whether it be from USA to going on all the basis, whatnot. We do 22 a day for suicide awareness month. I tried that. 22 took me a second. And then I did 222. That was too simple. So I needed something more, which is 2-2-2-2, angel numbers, but also goes not only for the military vets, for first responders, for their families, the kids, and kind of like a driving force all across the board.

And I break up into 125, 17.5, 17.6, 1776. So everything has a reason when I do it. I don't do Saturday and Sunday anymore because I'm usually on a plane. I have to do a car below. and eat a lot more. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Chef Andre Rush and Wade Stott's here on Will Kane Country. Visit BetMGM casino and check out the newest exclusive.

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to speak to an advisor. free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming, Ontario. Okay, so you break it up into, say again, how many, how many you do at a time? 125. 125. And then the math on that is you have to do 125. How many times a day to get to the 2-2-2-2?

17. 16. Oh, man, man. That's, you're doing more, that's more. that's more than once an hour you're dropping down to the floor and doing 125 push-ups. I mean, if you're getting a good night's sleep.

It's a short break period. Unfortunately, like a lot of us were a bit different. I say that just because of me growing up in Mississippi, getting up early since I was a kid, going into the military, still getting up early, getting out of the military, and just rolling over to the same platform.

I can do a lot more on less, but also I do, I'm on different time zones. So I travel all the time where every I go, whether be in Japan or Korea, if I see three o'clock that day, it's three o'clock everywhere. That's the way my body works. Really? You stay on that same rhythm no matter what the clock says. No matter what the clock says.

Wow. Do you also work out, I'm looking at you. And if anybody's listening on Spotify, Apple, or on the radio, he's 280, and there's, I mean, I'm going to guess your body fat is about 12%, maybe less, 10, 12%. I don't get to work out a lot. I'm an endurance trainer, so I hate to say this because people can probably come in on it. Believe me, I'm not no Stephen N. I, in military, I get all endurance.

I do a zero amount of percentages of weight. And, you know, from 25 to 50 reps, each one, focus on muscle memory, longevity. and so I get to work out. If I work out three times a week, I'm imperfect. I'm happy. Okay, so that's working out three times a week on top of these push-ups. Okay, somebody is, Dan just told me to pull this up. This is somebody watching the show right now.

Eddie Curtis says, Will you and chef eat very similar. Why don't you look like him? How many calories a day are you eating, chef? Um, to, uh, all of them. But honestly, I try to do two to one. Well, I do, I go off, I go off of, um, protein. I do two to one protein. Two grams of protein to every body pound. Uh, but if I get at least 400 grams of protein in, which actually believe it and not. Oh my God. It is very simple. It's very simple. I just told you I'll eat 12 to 24 eggs. You know how many, how much protein is in one complete egg, which is a superfood. Let me guess. An egg is like, isn't an egg only like 12 grams of protein or something like that? Close. If you do the whole important part, that's why I do a soft boiled egg, which goes down really simple, easy. People don't know that if you do a hard boiled egg, it's hard to chew. It's rubbery. So it doesn't go down. But if you think about that times 10, you're already at 120, you know, grounds of protein. And then I do my protein, but has another 80 or 90 grams of protein.

and then I do my yogurt, which has another, you know, 60 grams of protein with everything added inside of it. It doesn't take a lot of time. Besides, here's the thing, your body's not going to process all the protein. You're going to get rid of it. But that's how you know you're growing and you're doing it. It's that natural cause. It would have the fiber or whatnot in it. So I tell people to think about their health.

And I also tell people the first thing that you do is get your blood work check. Get your blood work check where you jump into any deep dive thing, especially if they're like a regular person. And I go to all the shows from with Arnold Schwarzenegger to the Olympia to all those things. But in a realistic style, I can't live like a bodybuilder. I can't live like a cardio person. I'm not competing. I'm doing everyday life. So two to one.

I tried, and I'm not doing a good job of it right now. When I was about a year ago, I was in pretty good shape. I was trying to do 170 grams of protein a day, which would be one to one. I weigh about 180. So that's one to one. And it took work. I mean, you say it's easy, but it takes focus on. And by the way, if you're taking in that much protein, to what you said earlier, you don't need to worry about the calories.

Because your calories are just not, they're going to be in the right ratio if you're taking in that much protein. But I found that hard to get that much, man. That is a lot of, it's a lot of chicken breast. A lot of chicken breast. You don't have a chef like me, though. Chicken breast is a nemesis. It's a nemesis. Everybody overcoves chicken breads.

It is like a job. I think it's a superfood. It is a superfood. It's one hundred percent of food. Chicken. Yeah. I mean, that's, it's two to one on calories to protein. You get 40 grams of protein for 200 calories.

I've seen nothing that matches it. Nothing that matches the chicken. You're right. You're right. I do need to hire you. And you do. And you need to work out with me as well. And you do.

It looks similar. It sounds like all I have to do. It sounds like all I have to do is drop down and start doing push-ups. You're not doing the Navy SEAL swim this year. You might as well start push-ups. I know. I'm not doing the Navy SEAL swim, so vanity is not motivating me to work out. Vanity is a great motivator.

It's a great motivator. By the way, at that 170 grams of protein chef, I did get my blood work done. They did say there was a little bit of an indicator in my kidney. That's not bad. They just said it's a little elevate. I can't remember what the marker is in my kidney. She said that's probably from you doing so much protein. Those doctors will tell you don't be doing so much protein.

No, no, they do. But, you know, you got things for that. You also got to make sure you cleanse that. You know, you have to drink your liquids, your fluids that go wrong with it, your electrolytes. I fly at times so people don't know that you need that salt, that electrolytes that go up high because you can dehydrated from it. And that's a strain on your kidney all the way across the board,

especially doing things where people don't. A lot of people want to follow everyone else and think about it. It's kind of like what we're doing like an American kitchen. It's like want to go and kind of deep dive in and show the healthy part of it. And even with me, I was just at the UFC and with Mr. Kennedy's people want to do a show where it is focused on upside down pyramid, focus on younger kids, which I have a lot of in my platform, thank God. And be able to teach them and learn them, teach them how to cook first off. And like especially young boys and girls.

but at the same time, how to use what they have as far as eating healthy with a low cost and low budget. I want to ask you about your special up at Fox Nation. Wade, do you want to jump in? Do you have anything for the chef? You're sitting there, and I feel bad. I've boxed yet. Yeah. No, it's good.

I would ask 1,000 questions about Trump's regular diet. But I'm fascinated by all this stuff. I want to hear more about the RFKs or the Mr. Kennedy series as well. well, but yeah, I'm excited to hear about. Oh, let's do this. Wade. Yeah, how many grams of protein you get, Wade? I don't know. I just eat three meals a day. That's all I know.

I get it out. I do my best. I had an apple and milk for breakfast. Can you chef explain? Can you explain President Trump? Because he is a medical mystery. He's 80 years old. From the outside, it appears like he eats garbage. I'm sure he didn't when he had you cooking for him. and he sleeps very, very little. How is he the way he is? That's very simple. He's an alien.

I'm joking. You know, he's a one-percenter. I'm going to be honest with you on that part. People will doubt things that they don't know it that they can't do. And, you know, it's when I say people, hey, sometimes I only sleep two hours or three hours or sometimes I don't sleep at all. They're like, that's not possible. So when I say that you have to be able to gain this much mass.

and muscle mass. I'm like, well, here it is. I mean, you don't know until you try it. I say on that part, but if you have a mission or a token like President Trump does, I mean, he believes in what he believes. He's been doing it so long consistently that he just takes himself out of that mental mindset of normacy and just goes and deep dyes of what he believes in. So, you know, I mean, I thrive it. It's incredible. It is alien. You're clearly an alien as well. The RFK inverted Food pyramid. Tell us about that for a second. Wade asked about that. And I'm interested too. When was the food pyramid developed? Was that like in the 60s? I just remember learning about it in the 80s. And it's pretty insane, the old food pyramid, if you look at it. And so what are

you and RFK talking about on the inversion of the pyramid? So inversion of it is basically what it should always talking about, healthy cooking, healthy food, what you should and should eat, what the benefits are, all the whole parts of what he's always talking about. The great thing about him is coming in and looking at things on a very realistic way and not a political way, saying that we need to do this more for the FDA or over part, just like for instance with peptides recently, where he just said, okay, he's going to open up more, which is me having a peptide company now and doing that as I'm deep diving in it because I've never done it before. But I do know there's benefits from it, which I love going back to the pyramids is my focus is out of my 20 million, I have about 57% percent. younger kids, right? I live off of them. I strive off of them. I've had success rates with them, along with some unfortunate events that happened with me personally, my family and my soldiers and whatnot, but also with their kids. So now it's time to teach them about it. I say it very simple because the kids are our future. You know, I go all the shows and I do this thing called

don't label me. It's about simple lady label reading. One thing it is that kids now, I don't care, even at 20 years old, they don't know how to read a simple label on the back of a box. They have no idea what it means. The percentages for FDA, how many it should take and whatnot. And you know they even more so well because you have to go and look at it. But they don't do that now. Now it's a world of fast food. Fast food is taken over. Everything is taken over. Everything has been, I use the word kind of dumbed down, especially here in the U.S. where it's a normancy to go and get fast food 24-7, right? kids are stuck on it. That's all they know. They're gamers, their streamers, they're this part. People are selling to them. You've got the people who are doing brain deals to them saying,

promote my unhealthiest thing that we could possibly have, and I'll give you a couple of dollars for it. And we want to take that back because they're going to be the future and they are. So it's the longevity and also the preservance of our life, you know, going forward. Because people don't know that you can change your genetical makeup after a long period of time. If you work out and you have high blood pressure, diabetes and your general, works out, then the next one comes and next one keeps working, working. That's going to dissipate. And that's been proven over history and time.

Right, right. And maybe listening to you also thought about something that you're talking about mental health. You know, I've done a lot on this. I'm just curious what your thoughts are on it. I'm still trying to learn about peptides, by the way. I'm a little, I'm having trouble going all the way because I'm really skeptical of putting things into my body that I don't know everything about yet. And I mean, I know a lot of guys who are doing.

doing it and they outwardly show great results. Great results. So the question is, what's happened internally over the long term? That's the big question that I don't know. But I've done a lot of interviews on this, Jeff, on Ibegain, and there's a new-ish documentary up at Netflix on Ibegain. And this documentary is awesome. It has Marcus and Amber Capone, who we've had on the show, former Navy SEAL. And, man, he walks the path with like four or five of the years. guys who have serious issues. Most but not all connected to military service and their trip down to Mexico and doing Ibegain. And it's not a cure-all.

It's not that. It's not a miracle drug, but putting them on the path to mental. Have you seen anything about this? Have you seen this documentary or familiar with this? I'm familiar with it. Yes, we're not again. Yes, going to Mexico. You know, it is, and I'm glad you brought that up.

Of course, you know, a lot of guys, I remember when I first, got in my part, the Stelik Gangne Bach. And I was working with some of the guys on the hill as far as trying to promote it. And they were taken it away from him, from the military guys with PTSD, with ideation, whatnot, whatnot. And it was like, no, no, no, it's not gonna work.

It worked for me, right? It worked for a lot of other guys who, purple art recipients, you know, even just simple guys. And so it's all that part of it is what's true and what's not true. What's control and what's not control? Now, for instance, I'll go back So my part of it, when I was doing this and said, okay, we're going to do Argo health for the peptides.

But I want to do telehealth because it's the only way we know. It's going to be certified. It's been stripped. It's going to be third party, seven party. Test it. You want to go all across the board. And we're going to make it where it has a reason to call is behind it and not a money grab. So we'll do the lowest one thing where people does not have insurance.

And so they can know that everybody is worth it. Now on that part of it is you take a chance anytime you do anything in life, no matter what you put in your It can be a pill that's been expired for three months or three years. You don't know on that part of it. It could be something that I've happened with me being the military. I've had some botched surgeries from the doctors that I trusted. You know, so I don't know. Everything is going to be a 50-50 chance on that part of it.

But all I do know, like I say, what I began on that part, it was enlightening, you know. And those are guys that I know I can trust because they walk the path and they've seen the same light that I've seen. And they do the same straw as I have, the same way. and vice versa. So it has to have some kind of credibility to it with the people that actually doing it. And even with me with peptides, I haven't deep dive in it. But I said if I'm going to get and put it in front of everybody, I'm going to start it to see that transformation and take that journey so you can see how I actually am. Because you know what they say is don't just,

it's kind of like those commercially talk with fast food where all the CEOs started tasting their own food. And now someone looked like they were going to gag because they never tasted it before. So there you having. Yeah. Okay, so, chef, one of the main reasons you're joining us here today is that you've got this Fox Nation, America's Kitchen Season 2, an American, an America 250 barbecue. It starts streaming tomorrow at Fox Nation. Tell us a bit about this special. Oh, wow. I'm excited about this special. It's been in the works for a while now. I think I talked to Brittany from Fox about over a year ago when she first brought it up. And now, from is here. I think that first episode is me, David Burke, Robert Irvine, and it's basically

about the commotion of the 250 first off, you know, happy anniversary to the USA and everybody in it, but at the same time is, is a way to bring unity together, bring everyone back together for the homestead. I'm from Mississippi, and the best part of me being from where I'm from was sitting down on a table eating together with my family, that camaraderie, that love, that respect, the whole admiration of it and showing different cultures. Now I go over to different countries and I love the food. I love the mission stars, but what I love most so is the culture behind it. I don't care if the mom and pop shop, you know, think about that Anthony Bourdain type of lifestyle back in the day where he just goes to a place and he sees the ajima, someone just sitting there making some by hand

that doesn't look appetizing, but actually is the most amazing thing you could possibly have. And so that's what American Kitchen is. It's kind of bringing people back to where they belong. Not only cooking, you know, with each other, but having your families cook, having the kids cook together, having their families cook together, and looking at the foresight and bringing it back from those days. What is the quintessential American meal? Is it barbecue? Barbecue. Well, it's funny you said that because I had David Burke and Robert Irvine. And they made for the barbecue a steak, 45-day dry steak,

and they made this flank salmon. And I made when I first went to my first Conis duty station, Okonis, in Korea. I was in love with it because the flavor profile was crazy, the people, the culture. And so I had one of my first thing I had that I fell in love with was Magogi. So for the Fourth of July in Korea, I want to combine both. flavor profiles together with ribs and baguogi. So I made bagogi spare ribs, and they were absolutely insane. So yes, I would say that. It's a token. Yeah. I think it's barbecue. I do. I think that's, it coast to coast, right? I mean, yes, it has its cultural centers in the

South and Texas and places like that, but coast to coast. Everybody loves a rack of ribs. Everybody loves a brisket. And you want to get funky with it with some Korean stuff. That's fine. It's still a brisket. It's still ribs. And you can get... One of my favorite rib recipes puts coffee on it.

A dry rub coffee on the ribs? I love it. That's my first viral video. It was a steak coffee rub. Oh, yeah? Your first viral video. Okay. They went crazy about it before a thing.

Well, I'm going to start doing a bunch of more push-ups. I'm going to look into peptides. And I think everybody should check out Fox Nation's American Kitchen Season 2 and America 250 barbecue with former White House chef Andre Rush. Chef's been fun conversation. Thank you for joining us here today. Thank you, sir. I have a great time.

Thank you guys. Thank you. All right. Take care. That was Chef Andre Rush. Be sure to check out American Kitchen Season 2 on America 250 barbecue streaming now on Fox Nation. That wraps up this Labor Day edition of Wilcane Country. Thanks for tuning in.

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