Will Cain Country - From The Vault: It Didn't Take 50 Years To Feminize America (ft. Adam Carolla)
Episode Date: July 31, 2026In this special "Best Of" Edition of 'Will Cain Country,' we revisit Will’s conversation with the Host of ‘The Adam Carolla Show,’ Adam Carolla, who joined to discuss his prophetic 2010 bestsell...er, ‘In 50 Years We’ll All be Chicks.’ Adam and Will examine the feminization of American culture in recent years, Adam’s enduring friendship with Jimmy Kimmel, and California Governor Gavin Newsom’s unorthodox debate tactics.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country!Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: @WillCainYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Adam Carolla 15 years ago predicted that in 50 years,
We'd all be chicks.
Fifteen years later, has that prediction come true in record time?
Today, the host of the Adam Carolla show, Adam Carolla.
Wilcane Country at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page, the Fox News Facebook page, Terrestrial Radio, and always here at Spotify or on Apple.
Tinfoil Pat, two a days, Dan.
And let's start today with a round of applause.
So if Patrick and Dan can jump into the program, let's all get to our feet, if we might,
and let's give a round of applause to tinfoil Pat.
Wow.
I don't know what we're clapping for, but sure.
For as long as Patrick has been working on Wilcane Country, which at this point, I believe is several years,
having met in person for the first time in December, but having worked here for several years,
he has been working on one particular booking.
He's had a long list of people that he had liked to get on Will Cain Country.
But there's been one lurking in the background.
As big as a fan as Patrick is of Michael Malice, as big of a fan as Patrick is of Jeffrey Tucker.
As big of a fan as he might be of Peter St. Ange, his white whale, his big big big.
get his big booking has been the ever elusive adam corolla and today patrick has secured
adam carola on wilkane country well done tinfoil thank you it's it's been just an honor
uh 20 years of listening to him i'm just incredibly amazed this is coming together well he's
listening to this right now as we speak well is he he is well
I mean, we're giving flowers to Patrick.
This has been his white whale, and mine as well.
So before Adam thinks, wow, Will's producer really wanted Adam, but Will wasn't trying to get Adam, though.
That's not true.
It was definitely a team desire, but we have to give credit to an individual effort in tinfoil pass.
So now let's welcome in the host of the Adam Carolla show, Adam Carolla.
What's up, Adam?
How are you?
Thanks for that intro.
It felt good.
Yeah.
I mean, you're probably used to wonderful intros, but I don't know, man.
I mean, you have been the big white whale of this program.
You have been, my producer, Ten Full Pat, has been listening to you.
I know since The Man Show, I'm pretty sure from Loveline, and probably the Adam Carolla show on Terrestrial Radio.
Well, you know, it's a weird life because I watch your show on Fox quite often, and I sit there,
and I think, oh, this is great.
And then if somebody tapped me on the shoulder and said,
do you think Welkane knows who you are?
I would go, I don't know.
I don't think so.
Why would he know who I was?
Like that's the, I go through life that way.
So everything's always a pleasant surprise for me.
And I don't call it low self-esteem.
I just call it no self-esteem.
But I think people think that's negative,
but it's not really negative.
I just don't think of myself.
So I would never think that a person that I haven't had Thanksgiving dinner with would know me.
But then, of course, mathematically, people are going to know you through work you've done in the past.
So I'm always flattered.
And it's a great way to start the day.
Well, listen, man, of course I know who you are.
And I would have said that situation could have been reversed diametrically in the opposite direction.
Does Adam Carolla know who I am?
Wow, how fascinating to think now that you watch the Will Kane show.
Here we are just a couple of D-Bags stroking each other's egos on a broadcast.
But no, it is kind of a cool thing to think, oh.
Hey, so let's do start with something you did quite a while ago.
Your book, in 50 years, Will I Be Chicks.
Was that 2011 that you wrote that?
Seems like about 2011.
Probably 9, 10.
I mean, you know, when you write a book, it's a year, you start writing it in a year.
or later comes out. So it's kind of, you know, there's the conception and then there's the birth,
you know. But yeah, it's been over 15 years. And the thing that's interesting about that,
going back probably 16 years plus, actually, is when you write a book, you know, I was tasked to
write a comedy book. I wasn't tasked to write a book about society or about,
gender roles or women transforming into men or anything.
It was just write a comedy book.
You're a funny guy.
You have a popular podcast.
Here's some money.
Write a comedy book.
And then we'll sell that book and we'll make some money off of you.
And at some point when you're done writing the book, they start kicking around titles, you know.
And you start thinking about funny titles, turns of phrases, things that have
your name incorporated into the title or something like that.
And so you start with sort of the same basic stuff of all the comedy books you've read over the years and all the titles.
And then at some point, after kicking around 20 different comedy titles, I just thought in 50 years we'll be checked.
And I never thought of it as particularly funny or I didn't think it was a turn of phrase.
It didn't really mean anything to me.
It's not something I'd said before or even thought about before, but somehow it dawned on me that this is where we're going as a nation.
And that should be the name of the book.
And so somehow I was picking up something on my radar that even I wasn't fully aware of.
And that's why that book is called in 50 years will all be checked.
But if you had to do it over, would you not rename the book?
would you not rename it in 15 years?
We'll all be chicks?
Yeah, we got there.
We got there fast.
And also, the calculation I really factor in is lots of dudes like your, like your Tim Walts's and your Jacob Fries and Gavin Newsom's and stuff became chicks.
But many more women became dudes.
I mean, we have women out on the streets fighting with ICE officers every single.
single day, like getting out of cars and punching people with Trump stickers, you know, bumper
stickers. It was a crossover. Many, many women started acting like guys. And then an equal amount of
men started acting like women. I mean, look, look at the leg crossing competition that's going on
between Gavin Newsom and Barack Obama and Justin Trudeau. Those guys are crossing their legs.
it's like some sort of competition to see who can go deeper with their nut crush.
I see Gavin.
Listen, I feel like I live in a little bit of glass house because sometimes I'll catch myself.
I'm like, why is the armpit of your knee on top of the other knee?
And I try to correct myself.
But Gavin's gone all the way over to your point.
Now he's got both feet touching the ground in the opposite direction.
Yeah, yes.
I don't know how that's comfortable at all.
He had to hire a Pilates instructor and work with that person for over a year to get in that position.
Now, what's going on?
Like on a more serious note, what are we talking about?
He is signaling to the base.
That's the base signal.
And there's a right and a left version of that.
Like, if you ever see a guy wearing a baseball cap with Oakley Blades on top,
of the baseball cap, I know how that guy votes.
He votes for Trump.
And I like that guy, but I know how he votes.
You know what I mean?
And if he puts the, if he puts the Oakley played sunglasses upside down for some reason,
he's even further to the right.
But when you see these guys do the deep leg cross and they do it live in front of an audience
more than they would do it one-on-one, like in a smaller podcast or more
intimate situation. So when they get an audience, they make sure they signal to that audience
who we are. Also, in Justin Trudeau's case, it exposes his colorful socks. So you also know
who he is because he likes festive socks. But yeah, it's it. Now, Trump sits with his legs
as wide apart as he can, and then he creates a diamond with two hands, and he puts it right in front
of the jewels, so it accentuates, draws focus. You can see pictures of him sitting with Obama. Obama's
crossed up like he got in a moped accident, and Trump's got his knees spread out like they're angry at
each other, and he's going, come on, everyone, focus on what's important. Let's take a quick break,
but we'll be right back on Will Cain Country.
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I've never thought about the diamond
hands focusing your attention
right there at the
crown. The crown jewels.
Okay, we've had this conversation.
I like this.
I didn't think we'd go here.
I like the idea of fashion.
We're talking about body posture,
but the fashion coding left or right,
and we've broken that down on this show.
You're a Californian,
or you at least live in California
and you have for a long time.
So I honestly think,
because I went to college in California,
Adam,
and I have a lot of buddies
who are refugees from California now in Texas,
and I kind of see them walking around Dallas,
and I'm like,
man, that might code masculine in California, but it's not coding well here.
So like, and I'm guilty.
Okay, the vans.
Vans in California, perfectly acceptable, I think, masculine footwear.
In other parts of the country, at least codes left.
You're wearing vans.
You know how that guy votes.
Yeah.
Well, okay, so I, you hit on a pet peeve of mine.
Guys over 40 in vans.
Now, there's stratas of vans, just like their stratas of Oakley Blade, what direction.
By the way, if it's facing backwards, you're not as far right as upside down, but you're
further right if they're backwards, then they are forward.
But let's not get bogged down in Oakley Blades.
The vans have stratas as well.
I hate an old dad.
And you'd see them, L.A. is full of old dads, right?
because it's a lot of second family guys.
It's a lot of guys that focused on their career producers.
They married a younger woman, blah, blah, blah.
I'm an older dad.
And I would see, I mean, I got 19-year-old twins.
But, you know, when they were nine and they'd be playing in basketball games,
I was, you know, 50, you know.
And I was an old dad.
And I was sitting in the stands, and I'd be sitting with the old dads.
And these are 53-year-old guys who were in vans slip on.
Now, vans are never good on an adult heterosexual male, but the slip-on varieties especially bad.
And then the worst is the black and white checker print on the slip-on, on the old dad.
That is the worst piece of messaging.
I have violated this rule.
I have violated.
Oh, no, sorry.
These are my dog walking.
These are my dog walking shoes.
I think you just, I've got the gray and black slip on.
This is my dog walking shoes, man.
I don't want to tie them.
I just slip in and go for the walk with the dog.
And I know, I know you're right, but I keep doing it.
But they don't have a checker pattern, do they?
Do they have a checker pattern?
I want to move on from this part of the conversation.
I want to move on, okay?
You should want to get away.
Okay, but here's another one that we're in the glass house because I want you to,
then we're going to move on to a more serious topic.
Gavin is interesting. I think, can I just also just throw some flowers at your feet?
Man, there are certain debates that sort of in my mind, if it's really, really gratuitous for me to say you're in the Hall of Fame with this.
But how about this? Exist in my personal mind and I can remember. Ben Shapiro versus Pierce Morgan on CNN.
It is always seared into my memory over gun control.
maybe me versus Stephen A. Smith one day on one of those first take debates.
But you versus Gavin Newsom is there. It's in there. It will always be in there. It was an awesome debate.
And because you have his number, man, in a way that very few people have his number, which leads me to think you kind of know how the guy ticks.
And I think he's different than Trudeau. I think he's different than some of these other, certainly different than Tim Walts.
He has, I don't know if self-awareness is the trait that he has, but he's at a more.
sophisticated level in everything that he's doing where he does the leg cross thing,
which is feminine in Codes Left. And then he wears Western shirts on a podcast. I wear
Western shirts. I like a poncho shirt. You know, with pearl snaps. And he does these little
things where you're like, not a bad look, looks a little mask. He does a mix. And I think what he's
pulling off is a sophisticated version of PC principle on South Park. Like he's kind of
that guy, but less dumb?
Well, he's very skilled and he's sort of savvy.
And he does a little bit of a jujitsu in the sense that he uses your own momentum
when he's sparring with you.
He doesn't try to be a brick wall.
You know, if you listen to his interviews, he does a strange thing where he is basically
CEO and CFO of a company. And then you come in and you go, this company is gushing money. We're not
turning a profit and employees are quitting. And he goes, I know, I hate it too. I know. I was,
I originally was one of the ones who instructed this company not to gush money and to shed employees.
And I'm just as upset about it. And the person that's coming toward him goes, oh, you're upset
about it. And it's like he acts as if he's not a part of it. So when things go south, he acts as if
nobody here wants to fix this problem more than me. And I've been sounding the alarm and I'm just
as concerned as you are. Then he circles back and starts saying, you know, California is the
fourth largest economy. We lead the world and innovation and tech innovations. So he brags, brags,
and then when someone raises their hand and goes, what about the homeless problem? He goes,
Nobody's more concerned about it than I'm.
I've been trying.
I have to fight each city's legislation to try to get these things.
And all of a sudden, it's like you're outlying.
And it's almost like you are saying, don't you hate this guy?
And you're his best friend.
And then he goes, I'm not his best friend.
I hate him too.
And then you get a little, people get confused then.
And so you'll hear people sort of come up against them.
and then they take their foot off the accelerator because he does this weird sort of bullfighter move with you.
He lets you just go past him.
All the other politicians like the Kamala Harris are like Ilhan Omar never gives an inch.
You know what I mean?
Like wasn't it sad that those Christian use airplane crash into a mountain?
No, it wasn't sad.
Good.
They deserve it.
You know, she never goes, I have Christian friends too.
She doesn't do that.
She doesn't.
Ilhan Omar never takes a step back.
never admits anything and is always on the offense.
He and Trump's that way too.
Newsom can be magnanimous.
He can be a little self-deprecating.
He can be a little shucksie.
And he can be, I agree, I want to fix this too.
And so he has this kind of bullfighter kind of way of debating.
And then, of course, he comes across as affable and a little self-effacing.
And then people go, oh, he's not a bad.
guy, not a bad guy, you know, but he's really a sociopath, and he has no thoughts in his head.
His thought is, I want to be in power.
And whatever that means, that'll be like, I want to be the commissioner of football.
And if that means saying I'm a huge Steelers fan, I'll do it.
And if it means saying I'm a huge Rams fan, I'll do it.
And I'll do it in the same day.
I don't care.
I want to be the head.
So in that way, though, he's not unique.
That's sort of the cookie cutter prototype of a power-seeking politician.
So you describe him as a sociopath whose only end goal is the advancement of Gavin Newsom.
And yet, and I think there is something very familiar about him in terms of, oh, yeah, that's a politician.
I can totally see it.
And yet, do you think this, Adam?
I think he's very talented.
That's not necessarily a compliment.
It can be a compliment.
Because you left out one thing that he does.
You mentioned the bragging about California.
He swims your head.
He drowns your head in stats.
And he did it to Ron DeSantis when they debated on Sean Hannity.
And before you know it, you don't know what's true.
Right, right.
Well, also, he does a thing that's interesting, which is he knows you don't have those types of stats
about whatever subject we're on.
Like, what I mean is, is California, you go, look, more people, anecdotally,
I know tons of people that have left California and gone to Texas and Nashville and Florida.
Okay, fine.
Anecdotally, and whenever U-Haul comes out with its annual report,
many more trucks have left than to come back in and cost five grand to rent one out.
It costs $10 to rent one to get from Texas.
to California. So you look around. It's like homeless. You know, you don't have a stat on homeless.
You just go, every time I look out my window, I see a homeless guy or homeless in camping.
Every time I get my car and drive along the freeway, I see homeless in camps. And then he goes,
homelessness was at 19.7 per 100,000 citizens when I came to office, it's now at 16.3.
So I've got it down 31%.
And then you go, I thought there was a lot of homeless.
It's come down 33%.
And you can't pull out your phone and start checking all his BS numbers, you know.
And then you go, all these major corporations year after year, keep fleeing California, Tesla,
Chevron, Toyota.
I mean, you know, California, Carol Shelburne.
came to California from Texas to build cars.
Think about that concept.
He lived in Texas and he said, I went to freedom to build sports cars and he went to Venice
Beach of all places.
Could you imagine going to Venice Beach to build cars now?
They would never let you near that place.
But we used to have Toyota.
We had Nissan.
We had GM.
Tesla was the last company.
They all moved out.
And you could say that.
And then he'd say,
GDP with new growth companies and Fortune 500 companies are up 31.1 percent.
And that is an increase of 4.62% from the previous tax quarter.
And you go, I thought everyone was leaving.
That's all you got is what your eyes tell you.
You know what I mean?
So he does that.
He bamboozles you and he knows you don't have the stats on the tip of your tongue to refute what he's saying.
Now, what he's saying is mostly a lot.
Let's take a quick break, but don't go anywhere.
We're going to continue this conversation with the host of the Adam Carolla show.
Adam Carolla on Will Cohn Country.
Welcome back to Will Cain Country.
We're still hanging out with the host of the Adam Carolla show, Adam Coraula.
Yeah.
Well, what's that saying?
There's lies, damn lies, and stats or something like that.
You can rattle off the stat to support any lie.
What are you still doing in California?
It's a good question.
I have a business here.
I have buildings here.
I grew up here.
I'm not a person that, you know,
grew up in New Jersey and came out here to pursue comedy.
I grew up in Southern California.
I have less and less sort of roots and connections here
as the kids get older and go off to college
and people pass on and move out and stuff like that.
So I am planning.
my escape. But that's a very good question. And I wish I had a better answer.
What's the escape hatch? Is it Texas? Well, ultimately, it'll be Texas. I think it'll be Nevada,
Vegas for a little while because it's so easy to get back and forth to California. And I do have
lots of material things here and obligations and things of that nature. So it'll be a little back and
forth for the first couple of years and then yeah somewhere like texas oh wow hey i want to ask you
something we're kind of talking about your personal stuff here just a little bit i saw you do something
adam i don't remember who you did this with it could have been megan kelly you could have been
on a panel i saw the video and your relationship with jimmy kimmel came up you were asked about it
and you gave this answer and again i i'm not a big gratuitous compliment guy if that's
going to seem false because now I think I'm on my third big compliment to you. But I really,
really liked your answer. And I think that it was, in my mind, really in line with what my,
certainly my principles, and I'd like to think what I think are principles that are manly.
You said something like, yeah, Jimmy and I disagree on a lot. But Jimmy did a lot for my career.
And not only do I not forget that, there's something, I can't remember the words you use,
but something extremely, you know, unattractive or gross about somebody that forgets people that help them get where they are in their life.
And by the way, here's my personal.
Like, I kind of feel that way about Stephen A. Smith.
But Stephen A. and I are friends, and we disagree, and we have a lot of, you know, conversations.
But he also advanced me, and I'm not going to forget that.
And I appreciate the positions he put me in.
And you clearly feel that way about Jimmy.
The thing that I wanted to ask you about is if the thing that we all have experienced in our lives is it doesn't feel one-sided where people who have values or believe the way you believe have trouble maintaining relationships with people who disagree with them.
But the other way does seem to have trouble because they import all this moral indictment on your beliefs.
And I'm curious if that hasn't affected or been a part of your, I get how you feel about it.
Jimmy, is he capable of feeling the same way about you despite your disagreements?
yeah he is and i've um yeah i i've i've i've i've just talked to him the other day at nice talk
um yes so the answer is yes but it's because jimmy knows who i am at a very uh on a very
uh deep and intimate level which is to say that if you don't you know then you just sort of know
somebody on a superficial level or not at all, then you go, okay, well, you know, Trump is Hitlerian
and he's trying to take over this country so we can put all, everyone who disagrees with him
in a gulag and then you support that person. But I don't think it would be any different than,
so Trump is called Hitler. If you, even if you, even if you,
If you supported the actual Hitler, and this would be pre whatever Hitler plans went into action,
any final solutions or anything.
I mean, what I'm saying is, Trump gets compared to Hitler.
So let's just say Hitler, Hitler, and we'll go back to Germany, and it'll be like 1938
and a half or something like that.
I got you.
If somebody supported them and you didn't know that person, you'd go, I hate that person.
and I'll never talk to that person.
But if somebody supported him who you knew well
and was a decent person and a good person
and a kind person and a family-oriented person,
you would have won, all right,
we have disagreements about Hitler.
I don't think he's going to be good for the country.
You obviously do, but you wouldn't cut the person off
because he supported somebody you disagreed with
if you knew that person was a good person.
So everybody else, you know, the ladies from the view
don't know me, so they think I'm horrible because they think I'm supporting Hitler 2.0.
But Jimmy knows me and he knows I'm not horrible. So he, I would assume, thinks I'm misguided,
but my mom supported Gavin Newsom and I thought she was misguided. But I didn't think she was an evil
person. But your point that it's not really a two-way street is correct. And the reason it's not a two-way
Street is you guys support Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. Two likable, feckless, you know, sort of
dumbos, but they're not Hitler. So I can't really hate you for supporting someone who's bad.
But if Trump is Hitler, then the other side supports Hitler. So of course you have to shun the people
that support Hitler. You are basically supporting someone who is bumbling.
and bad at their job, I'm supporting someone who's Hitler and hates all people of color,
according to you.
So it's easy then to shun.
And that's rolling, by the way.
That's not singular.
Trump has been the most extreme version of it.
We heard that about George W. Bush.
I mean, he was compared to Hitler.
And I can already hear it ramping up with J.D. Vance.
Oh, listen, you know, Mitt Romney, they tried it on.
You know what I mean?
I mean, they'll try it on.
They'll try it on anybody.
It doesn't matter.
Anybody who comes along is going to be xenophobic and racist and scared of people look different than them.
And whatever it is, whatever nonsense I say.
And it's sort of sad and it's a little pathetic that we're in 2026 and we're just having these race arguments over and over and over like all these years past Obama.
I mean, I'm old.
I remember the 90s.
We didn't even talk about this stuff.
Now we're like 30 years on and we're still having these race discussions.
And it's because they benefit from it.
It keeps them alive.
And it's kind of interesting because I was just thinking about Pam Greer on the view.
Every white American is having some sort of competition to prove who was poor growing up, right?
Oh, we didn't have anything.
You know, we were very lower middle class.
Didn't your dad run Nabisco?
Well, for 11 years, but then we were very lower.
You know, all the white people are trying to pretend like they grew up poor.
I had to sleep in my car.
It's all poor.
Every white celebrity is poor, and then every black celebrity has to give us some example
of being racially discriminated against.
So they're not doing the poor thing.
They do the victim of racism, and white people do the poor thing.
thing, but either way, we're all victims because people have found that there's currency in victimhood.
For anybody that doesn't know what he's talking about, Pam Greer, the actress, was on the
view. She tells a story of remembering her mother, taking her to lynchings in Ohio and her mother,
very vivid description, telling her to look away, look away. Well, Pam Greer was born. To be fair to Pam
Greer's mom, she wasn't taking her to lynching. She was trying to walk home. Okay. Yes.
Cool with her. And you know what it's like. You can't make it through the 50s without hitting
bodies swinging from trees left and right. In Ohio. In Ohio. Right. And by the everybody's like,
the last lynching in Ohio was in 1910, I think, 1911. And somebody did the research like 40 years after
Pam Greer was born. So the story has just total impossibility. Let's take a quick break,
but don't go anywhere. We're going to continue this conversation with the host of the Adam Carolla
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We're still hanging out with the host of the Adam Carolla show, Adam Carolla.
Okay, you brought up you want to be commissioner in the NFL.
This is a couple interesting things here.
First, did you see the stats, Adam?
Have you seen the thing about voter registration in the various sports leagues?
No, I just saw it last night for the first time.
Okay, you'll dig this.
Okay.
Well, it did WNBA, NBA, NBA, NFL, NHL, Major League Baseball.
I'll give you.
All right, I'll rank them.
I'll give you one guess.
Okay, rank them from most liberal to most conservative.
Right.
So the WNBA is going to be like ranking Harvard faculty in terms of how they vote, right?
I mean, that's going to be 96.3, whatever.
All right.
So WNBA, that'll be into the 90s with the liberal Democrat voting.
The NBA will, I think, probably be in the low 80s, mid-low 80s, maybe high 70s in terms of Republican.
Then we're going to have to put MLB.
MLB will be closer to 50-50, but probably 62 percent Democrat.
And then hockey will go red, I say, with a flip on the MLB.
be more than like 65, 67% Republican and hockey versus 30-something, 30, 40% Democrat.
Okay.
The only one you left out was the NFL.
So you basically got the rankings pretty close.
The NFL will be, the NFL, hold on, I got to factor in long snappers and place kickers.
Let's see.
Okay.
I'm going to say the NFL will be in the mid-7.
mid-high-70s with with the with Democrat versus Republican.
But here's the thing that's kind of interesting.
The you go, well, the black vote is going to two, to Democrats, but.
Democrat.
Right.
The Democrat.
But the NFL is a little bit different in that there's so much sacrifice and so much teamwork.
It's almost like the military.
And in that sense, I think you'll have more black players doing Republican voting because of the structure of it.
But so I'm going to go.
Okay, before I reveal.
Yes.
WNBA, NBA, NBA, NFL, MLB, hockey.
Okay, I'm going to reveal the results to you just a moment.
But you said something interesting.
I just saw this video of Chuck Klosterman, the writer, with the we the fifth guys, the libertarian,
podcast guys, Matt Welch, and so forth. And he was saying something that I've talked about,
and you just alluded to as well. Here's how he said it. And then here's how I've said it.
He said the NFL's popular is really interesting in that it is the most fascist sport.
Okay. If everybody can turn off the emotional reaction to the word fascist, he's talking about
it's literally, you have a job, execute your job, it's very structured, you fit into the system,
you are more interchangeable than in other sports,
and your instructions literally come down from on high,
from the box, from the offensive coordinator, to the quarterback.
And in that way, it's different than the NBA, which is more like jazz.
And he was making an argument, sports needs rules.
But we like to see people execute agency, and you could argue even artistry,
within the rules.
But football is the least of those, and yet it's the most popular.
What I often describe it as is the way you.
It's the most militaristic.
It's do your job.
It's top-down hierarchy.
And other sports are more free form.
And I just thought that was kind of interesting for him to describe that and say, and kind of ponder aloud, isn't that interesting that the most popular sport we have is the one of least agency, least innovation individually and I guess most fascist?
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
here it is, Adam. WNBA, I'm just going to give you the Republican percentage of each league, because they also factor in independence.
WNBA is about 3% Republican. NBA is 10% Republican. NFL, 20% Republican.
NHL, 44% Republican. And Major League Baseball, just under 54% Republican. So Major League Baseball and NBA, or,
NHL, far and away, the least liberal, most conservative.
Now, I did see a separate chart, Adam, to your joke, it broke it down by position in the
NFL.
And far and away, far and away, the most conservative Republican were place kickers and punters.
And then you go down quarterbacks and keep going down offensive line, then defensive line,
then linebackers, then running backs, then defensive backs.
And somebody's like, okay, why don't you just tell us?
It's black versus white.
Right.
Yeah.
No, that that that is about about what it is.
I was surprised that Major League Baseball was above hockey or had more Republicans in it than hockey.
But maybe that's an influence of a lot, lots of like Cubans and Venezuelans and that, you know, people of that ilk.
because they have lots of diversity, and a lot of their people are from places that have experienced these democratic socialist, whatever, and they've got the hell out of there.
Versus hockey players where you're going to have a disproportionate percentage from Canada.
Although I think most of those Canadians from the middle of Canada are kind of conservative, but you've also got Scandinavians in hockey.
And these guys might lean left.
No, you're right. I forgot about Canada.
All right, I want to take this before we go back where we started.
I want to go back to the 50 years where I'll be chicks.
In the last couple of days, people have kind of pioneered or popularized this term awful, affluent, white, liberal females or female liberals.
It is interesting how you talk about the women acting more manly and the men acting more feminine.
But what sticks out to me right now is, I think my producer used this term, you may have used it in your book, but the cultural clergy.
It's like the liberal white woman has become the arbiter of what is popularly acceptable in our culture.
And Don Lemon, when he does what he does, he's not trying to appeal to me.
He's not trying to appeal to you.
He is doing content, even though he's a man, for that woman, for that white liberal woman or the black liberal woman.
And it sort of exists, I think, in my mind is the highest of social credibility that if you can target that audience and that audiences rise in defining what is appropriate, how to behave, how to talk, has made us, if not all become chicks, made that cohort the top of the people.
pyramid in America.
Yeah, well, I mean, we've done a lot of damage to women because we are essentially taking
them away from what they do biologically and sort of forcing them to go against what their
biological imperatives are by telling them, you know, they don't need a man and they don't
need kids and they need to work and they don't need to stay at home and raise kids.
And it's essentially, you know, it's sort of like this.
If you take a swordfish and you see a swordfish like a marlin in the open sea, it's majestic,
how they just cut through the ocean, they go 40 miles an hour.
And they were built for speed in the ocean, right?
But the second you lift one six inches out of the ocean and just set them on a plank,
they flail.
Like they don't operate in this environment.
They're great in their environment, but they don't operate on a dock.
And on a dock, they're completely useless and they flail.
And women have a biological mandate, and we convinced them that that was all wrong,
and we pulled them out of that, and we put them in the corporate world,
and we told them they don't need kids and they don't need husbands,
and, you know, they need a man like a fish needs a bite.
And lo and behold, they're miserable now,
but they don't really know where to direct their misery.
Their misery should be directed at the movement
that got them in the place they're at currently,
but they don't know how to do it,
and they've been told men were bad
and the cause of all their problems their whole life,
so all they can do is lash out against men.
Most of them hate their dad.
Trump has become a father figure,
in place of their actual dad.
Women do that all the time.
They have issues with their dad,
and lo and behold,
they have issues with males later on.
So the woman that has an issue with their dad
is going to have an issue with her male supervisor at work
because she's going to graft the feeling she has for her dad
onto this guy.
And the guy's not going to know what's going on
because he's going to be like,
what's all the energy?
Like, where's all this coming from?
You're supervisor.
I've only known you for three weeks.
Why are you crying?
So they've taken all that, and they've taken it to the streets,
and they're pushing against ICE officers.
But the movement is what screwed them up.
And in many ways, we did the same thing with black Americans.
We told them, stay home, have kids, we'll get you paid,
we'll bring the money in.
America hates you.
There's societal racism.
There's systemic racism.
Nobody wants you here.
So don't even try.
Well, 50 years has gone by and it has hurt that community.
This helping has hurt that community.
And it did the same thing with these women.
We hurt them by explaining to them they should not fall prey to their biological mandate.
And they're angry and they're miserable and they don't know where to direct it.
So they're directing it toward male authority figures.
And right now, I saw the videos this morning, ICE officers, as you point out, in Minneapolis.
Well, this has been fun, Adam.
I've loved hanging out with you.
I am a fan.
Not only do I know who you are, I am a fan, and I encourage everyone to listen to the Adam Carolla podcast.
Thanks, man.
I appreciate all the time you gave us today.
Thanks, Will.
Appreciate it.
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