Will Cain Country - Heroic Entrance For Former President Trump At RNC! PLUS, Senator J.D. Vance Gets VP Nod

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Story #1: Former President Trump has an heroic and emotional entrance to the RNC as President Biden gives another fumbling, bumbling, and incoherent interview that would normally lead a news cycle and likely would've been the end to his campaign.  Story #2: Who is Senator J.D. Vance, and why is he the nominee? Will is joined by the co-host of the Ruthless Podcast, Josh Holmes.  Story #3: 'What An Airhead Show' w/ Will & The Crew. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Trump's badass entrance to the R&C, as Joe Biden gives another. Fumbling, bumbling, would-be news cycle leading, possibly Democratic nominee canceling, conspiracy peddling interview with NBC. Two, who is J.D. Vance? And why was he picked as Donald Trump's running mate as Vice President with Josh Holmes of Ruthless? Three, what an airhead show, says Crabby about the Will Cain Show. It is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Always on demand by hitting subscribe at Apple or Spotify.

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Coming up a little bit later today, we're going to break down your comments, get you involved as part of the community here, as part of the Wallitia. But let us stick with what I think should remain. Story number one. And that is the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Story number one. Donald Trump made an entrance worthy of 50. cents, many men. Many men have tried to kill me. Reports are, by the way, a little bit later

this week at the Republican National Convention. We might see an appearance, perhaps a performance by 50 cent. Bandaged on his ear, Donald Trump came in not to many men on Monday, but he came into Lee Greenwood in what had to amount as one of the most badass entrances in political history. Watch. And things were gone, I'd work for all my life. And I had to start again. Just my children and my home. Thank my lucky stars to be here today.

Just over 48 hours prior to that entrance. Standing in front of thousands in Pennsylvania, Donald Trump took a 5-5-6 or 2-2-2. three round through the ear. He was a millimeter from losing his life. And just over two days later, he makes an appearance in front of thousands, ear bandaged. You know, it's hard, but every once in a while you have to take a step back and remember that Donald Trump's not a character and a melodrama. He's not on a reality television show. He's actually a human being. I think this it gets increasingly hard for those on the left, but I think it even can be hard for those on the right because it becomes a symbol. He becomes a character and he can become a caricature,

but he's a man. And in that moment, I do think it's important to step back and think what's going through the mind of that man, of course, not to be literal in our metaphors, but he was a millimeter from something else going through his head. But on this night, he could be forgiven for not being wrought with thoughts of his own mortality. We talked about it when George W. Bush came out to throw the first pitch for the New York Yankees after 9-11 and threw a strike. In his own way, this is a little bit like that moment. He didn't throw a physical strike, but he threw a symbolic strike against those that would strike down Donald Trump. And you have to remember.

As a man, as a human being, what might he be thinking? Donald Trump looked different. I think many people noticed that. It was something just different about his aura as he walked into the R&C. I don't know if it was in his eyes. I don't know if it was in his energy. It was a little more contemplative. Maybe, maybe a little shook.

And why wouldn't he be? 52 hours before in front of thousands his life was on the line 52 hours later he's there again appearing in front of thousands but see strength and courage aren't the absence of fear strength and courage are what you do with fear when i was living in new york city and i tried to get my boys and you know before you learn the lesson that parenting is more like being a gardener When you still think parenting is like being a sculptor, you know what I mean by that?

We don't shape our children. They are who they are. And our job as parents is to weed the garden and let them grow into what they will be. But when you're still in the mindset you can actually shape who they are, I got my boys into skateboarding. And the reason that I got my boys into skateboarding is I wanted them to face fear. I always was impressed, and I wasn't some big skateboarder, but I was impressed with guys who could drop in 10 feet into a concrete bowl. And the reason I was impressed by that is mechanically, formatically, fear is actually the thing that hurts you.

Like, when you drop in, you have to fully commit. It's not that you don't have fear. It's that you overcome fear. And if you can overcome fear, you fully commit and skate right out of that vertical drop. But if you give in to fear, if you hesitate, if you lean back a little bit, that's when you slide out from underneath yourself. That's when you fail. It's when you break.

That's when you can get hurt. Donald Trump did look different. Now, did he feel fear? it's almost beside the point because it's what he would have done if he did feel fear. He overcame it. And that, my friends, is strength, not the absence of fear, but overcoming it. I think what you're looking at is just too many in a short period of time. I iconic moments of leadership and strength.

I truly do believe that. Now, there are others like hacks. And I just want to take a minute to talk about hacks. I think that the hacks, Warren Buffett had a famous saying about the stock market. You never know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out. The tide's gone out on the left, and you can see who's been swimming naked, and it's Stark who was and is a hack. And here's, you know, the Trump, the RNC crowd echoing Donald Trump's immediate aftermath of taking a bullet to the head chanting fight, fight, fight, listen. Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, that yell at the RNC.

Dean Obadiah, who I knew in some past life when I had more interaction with those that turns out to be insane on the left, tweeted, bone-chilling to see at the Republican National Convention, people chanting fight in unison with one arm punching in the air, instantly conjures rallies from the 1930s, Germany. There is no other way to put it. 48 hours after their hyperbolic rhetoric in comparing Donald Trump to an existential threat, a threat to democracy, literal Hitler and a Nazi, they return to that insanity. And by the way, they're returning to all kinds of insanity.

I am taken aback by what two a days, one of my producer told me yesterday he's been hearing over lefty brunches in Brooklyn that so many on the left have bought into this idea that it was staged, that Donald Trump, by the way, crushing Joe Biden in the polls and Joe Biden in the middle of an implosion decides now is the time to pay a 20-year-old to take a 2-2-3 to my ear to zero in on my ear.

That's the idea. But so many lefties and I've seen videos not all of the left, much of the left. I've seen videos of people that walk amongst us. Like it looks like your father-in-law. It looks like your friend's dad worried about sunscreen with big hats on,

walking in L.A., certain. Donald Trump's a fraud and this was staged. It's crazy how much this is taking off. It is insane how they've lost their minds. And by the way, last night at the RNC, there's a video circulating social media where Donald Trump closes his eyes. I think you can see a picture of this.

Donald Trump closing his eyes at the RNC and that's been peddled around as he can't even stay awake. This is in league with, this is akin to CNN, Donald Trump falls down on stage. They're trying to create a moral equivalency. It's a backdoor excuse for Joe Biden's frailty. This is a backdoor reverse engineer piece of propaganda because everyone points out how Joe Biden is frail

and seen Allen falls asleep to say see, see Donald Trump old and can't stay awake. What they neglect to say is it was during the prayer. And everyone in the crowd's eyes were closed. for the prayer they're losing their minds and why wouldn't they became because they have been peddled this I want to play this for a little bit longer clip

but they have been peddled this for a decade trying to figure out how would people get basically drawn in by Hitler how did that happen? He talks about the blood of America is being poisoned

echoing the same exact language used in Nazi Germany. Donald Trump and the Magiore Republicans represented extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. And we hear this all the time. People say, gosh, if back in the day, if only one person had the courage to stop Hitler... I think one thing you and I agree on is Donald Trump is an existential threat to this country. What, in your view, would happen if he were to be reelected?

Oh, I can't even, I can't even think that because I think it would be the end of our country as we know it. You could see it in. Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, media members, literal Hitler, the end of our democracy. Why wouldn't that breed a crazy? Not just the crazies that sit on the view, who today look at an assassination attempt on Donald Trump. So you know what the real problem here is? It's guns. Oh, and white men.

watch what was this again it was you know a 20 year old lone wolf white whack job with easy access to a gun and we have to have a conversation about that because it wasn't a drag queen it wasn't an immigrant it wasn't a pissed off liberal woman this is and this keeps happening and we need to react not as left or right not as republicans or democrats we need to react as Americans. And we need to ask better. Okay, I just want to add that the shooter, yes, it was a 20-year-old kitchen worker from nearby Bethel Park in Pennsylvania. According to a CNN reporter, senior law enforcement officials said that he bought 50 rounds of ammunition from a local gun store hours before the rally. Shouldn't that have been reported? Somebody buys a 20-year-old

white guy? I mean, we've seen that many times now, young white men with guns. White men, white men. So now race is prevalent. Now race is important. Now race should be used in policy and law and reporting, not just affirmative action, but in gun sales. Their open racism is repulsive. But will, will, will, it's the dummies on the view. Will, it's internet commenters.

It's not real. And will, everybody, the rights not exempt from, you know, violent imagery and rhetoric. And you know what I would say today? No, you're right. The rights not exempt. They're not. You know what? People shouldn't be indulging in jokes and laughing about the attack on Paul Pelosi. They shouldn't. They shouldn't show hammers and underwear. Shouldn't. Congressman shouldn't be putting out animated videos of AOC being killed. They shouldn't. But I want to be clear about something. It's not an equivalency. It's not. This heightened rhetoric, it's not the same. This is

become a central tenant in the minds and the hobgoblins of the minds on the left because it's a central tenant of the theme of the Democratic Party. And it was reiterated for us again, within 48 hours of the attempt on Donald Trump's life as Joe Biden sat down with Lester Holt of NBC. You called your opponent an existential threat on a call a week ago. You said it's time to put Trump in the bullseye. There's some dispute about the context, but I think you appreciate. I didn't say crosshairs. I was talking about focus on. Look, the truth of the matter was what I guess I was talking about at the time was there was very little focus on Trump's agenda. Yeah, the term is bull's eye. It was a mistake to use the word. I didn't say crosshairs. I'm

a bullseye. And then focus on it. Focus on what he's doing. It's a week ago, this would have led the news cycle and might have put a nail in the coffin of Joe Biden's campaign. It would have been leading the leading piece of evidence among Democrats of replacing Joe Biden. The interview was embarrassing. He couldn't complete sentences. He couldn't complete thoughts. He mumbled words. He blended them together. And he replaced crosshairs with bullseye. A week ago, this would be your top story. But because of an assassination attempt, the pick of J.D. Vance's vice president, lawfares collapse. This is a tree falling in the forest. But it's also a lie. It's conspiracies. He went on to say that Donald Trump called Nazis very fine people. He went on to

repeat the bloodbath hoax. He went on to repeat the lie that Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. This is what happens. This is how you create the mindset and the culture of an assassin. We'll get into a little bit later the latest on the failures of the Secret Service here in the Will Kane show. But who is J.D. Vance? And why is he Donald Trump's vice presidential running mate? Let's get into it in just a moment with one of the hosts of the Ruthless podcast, live from the RNC, Josh Holmes, coming up on The Will Cain Show. Fox News Audio presents unsolved with James Patterson. Every crime tells a story.

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but is the Will Cain Show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. If you're watching on YouTube, just drop into the text link underneath this live stream and hit subscribe to the Will Cain Show or head over to Apple or Spotify if you're listening and you can always catch the latest episode of the Will Cain Show. Another show that I am certain you would enjoy and who have become friends of us here is The Ruthless Podcast. And so we're excited now to be joined live from the Republican National Convention by Josh Holmes,

one of the co-hosts of the Ruthless podcast, and I would say inappropriately dressed up in a suit and tie here for the Wilcane show. What's up, Josh? I'm sorry about that. Well, I mean, geez, you know, it's a convention. I got to kind of spiff up a little bit. I feel like I'm a little over-dressed, but we'll go with it. I don't have my ruthless hat. I got sent a ruthless hat in the mail, which I thank you for, and I would have broken that out just to classy the joint up here.

You're looking very Trumpian with your silk tie. and your cufflinks and French cuffs, just very snazzy there. But we're glad to have you from the R&C. So, first of all, like a real adult. Well, somebody should act apart. I mean, we were a little disappointed that when it came to the ruthless, you're who we got. I mean, we were really jazzed that, like, we might get Michael Clark Duncan, like, from the Green Mile on the Wilcane show.

So let's put this up on the – this is Fox and Friends promotion, I believe, of One Nation with Brian Kilmead. It's a graphic of who the guests are. It's Senator Tom Cotton and Tommy Leran. It is Josh Holmes of the Ruthless podcast. And then your co-host, Michael Clark Duncan and a photo of your co-host. I did not know, man, that your co-host is the dude that said boss in the Green Mile. he's he's an academy award nominee will he's been uh he passed away 12 years ago he's from the grave but we have him twice a week on tuesdays and thursdays evidently on the ruthless variety program

oh that was awesome man when you guys put that out uh one of josh's co-host's name is michael duncan and somehow somebody at fox and friends must have googled michael duncan and came up with the picture of the actor You can picture him, remember, from the Green Mile. Was he in anything but The Green Mile? Do we have another movie that we can say about Michael Clark Duncan besides the Green Mile? I don't know. I feel like in that era, he kind of played the same character at about 35 different films.

All I know is we're happy to have him in the office on a day-to-day basis. We're happy to talk to him. It is actually super funny. Ever since Pots and Friends put that promo out, every time I walk by his office, he says, Hey, boss, I'm dead tired. We've had a ton of fun with it. All right, Josh Holmes of Ruthless here with us on the Will Cain show. So, Josh, what do you think, first of all, about the selection of J.D. Vance as Donald Trump's running mate?

Yeah, look, I think it's a great selection for a couple of reasons. One, he's a good guy. I've known him for several years. He is exactly the kind of person that he comes off of on TV. He's a family guy. He's a salty-the-earth guy. If you haven't read Hillbilly Elogy, if there's anybody left who hasn't read it, you should read it. I think it basically changed the way that the American culture sort of looks at Appalachian families in a lot of different ways.

It shed important insight into an overlooked population that, you know, frankly, this country and the media narratives have not had any interest in covering up until the point where he sort of illuminated that for all of us. But I think more importantly, just from a political perspective, if you look at where Joe Biden himself, where their campaign has said that they, absolutely must win in order to get to 270 and be reelected as president of the united states it's those rust belt that blue wall uh states we're talking pennsylvania michigan and wisconsin i don't know anyone not anyone in the senate not anyone in the house i don't know anyone in the national scene that speaks more authentically to folks in that region than j d vance does it's his life it's where he grew up uh those are his people and i i think that this ticket is an awful big boost from having somebody like that.

All right, I want to explore that. Let's just stick for a moment on the electoral effects of Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio. So right now, I believe, betting markets like Polly Market have, shockingly, by the way, it's 75. I think Donald Trump's up to 75%. Joe Biden's down to 25%. Okay. Starting from that premise, right? The economist says, all right, if Joe Biden loses Michigan, he, he's a lot, if Joe Biden loses

Michigan, his prospects dropped from 25 to 3. He cannot lose Michigan. He drops to 3. If he loses Wisconsin, it drops to 6 in 100, right? 6%. If he loses Pennsylvania, 7 in 100.

So he needs these states. So the idea here that you're suggesting is that JD Vance helps in the Rust Belt, helps with those states. And I get it. I think, and I want to get into J.D. Vance in a minute that he

is a true believer. I do. And I want to talk about that in a second. But just electorally. I don't know, man. I really am thinking this through, Josh. Like, J.D. did come from where he came from. There's no doubt. That's authentic. But he went on to what? Yale. He's very Ivy League educated.

Hillbilly elegy, let's be real. Like you said, if anybody hasn't read it, the people that have read Hillbilly elegy are people into politics. And like, like, Your average America first Rust Belt voter, they haven't read Hillbilly Elogy. It's just not, I mean, it's, I don't think that's what we're talking about here. And so I do wonder, I think J.D. is super smart. I don't know that he has the charisma.

He certainly doesn't have Donald Trump's charisma. So I just wonder about the play here. Does he actually win you, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan? Well, I think it's that authenticity that you have to look for. I mean, look, we boil these things down. so far in a presidential election you get to know these candidates absolutely inside and out and you either like what you see or you don't but with jd vance you're going to get what you're going to get i think the one thing that turns off voters more than anything else well is somebody

's pretending to be something they're not and that's not what jd is it means the real mccoy i also think when you look at this electorally i mean if we're being honest donald trump blots out the sun will i mean this is a candidate unlike any other in american politics in that you're not going to cast a ballot. You're not going to be sitting on the fence. I don't know what I think about Donald Trump, but I like J.D. Vance. That voter does not exist. Let's be clear. I think where he has a distinct advantage is as we go along, you get a post-Labor Day discussion, say the economy snaps back into focus. Hard to imagine after the events of the last three weeks that we're actually talking about some policy that affects the American people, but that's where we will be after Labor Day. And when we do that, you're going to hear from somebody who's the best surrogate for Donald Trump as his vice presidential nominee who knows what he's talking about and actually can speak to some of the pains that the American people are having in rural communities across this country.

So what I was doing there. So first of all, I like J.D. Vance. I like the pick. And I'm going to tell you why in a minute we're going to have a discussion. But I just try to be real about like not everything is a hundred nothing. Right. Like he's not a pick. Yeah.

Yeah, it hits every single. It hits every single. You check every box, man. I'm just a little unconvinced on the electoral wins he puts behind the sales. And what I like about it, I'm going to tell you what I like the most, Josh, and I think this didn't play to Donald Trump at all. This is my suspicion. The reports are that Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump Jr., were part of the big lobbying group for J.D. Vance. And there were others pushing for other names.

Rubio and Bergam were apparently out at an earlier stage, so whoever was advocating for them, that fell by the wayside. It looked like it came down to Glenn Yunkin. I think this is what reporting suggests, Glenn Yonkin versus J.D. Vance. What I really like about Vance is two things. I do believe he is a true believer, and he's an intellectual about it, and he can prosecute that case. But let's start with this. I also like that he creates legacy, Josh. I don't think that mattered to Donald Trump.

I don't think he, I actually don't think he thinks about legacy beyond himself too much, but I think this is a move, this is a move that makes sort of this repositioning of America First ideology something that can have runway into the future beyond Donald Trump. And that's a legacy. Yeah, no, look, I think you're right. I mean, clearly, J.D., of all of the candidates that were discussed, is on the short list of Donald Trump, is the one that ideologically fits the best with the America First. vision as Donald Trump is laid out. He's somebody that doesn't need to be convinced, and he certainly doesn't have to put an inauthentic pitch out for America's place in the world and how you would run a domestic economy. I mean, he's already on board with all of that. I think the question beyond that is, did Trump voters really want somebody else? Like, I guess we'll find out four years from now

or eight years from now. I mean, I think where we're at currently is people are all about Donald Trump. I mean, it is, I'm at this convention, Will. I was here in 2016. people were very excited about Donald Trump in 2016, but not like it is now. I mean, this is a uniform deal. You can walk around from all sets, ideological sets within the party. Everybody's on board. This is a very, very different convention. So I think this is more about Donald Trump than anything else.

That's really interesting what you said. So while I say it sets up for a legacy and a continuation of America first, and I do believe I'm correct on that, it doesn't necessarily mean that I think all of a sudden J.D. Vance is your leading candidate from 2028. I don't. So, and it sounds like you're the same. Like, if you started right now and you put, and it's not fair to say right now because J.D. Vance is going to have four years in this, you know, whatever we're going to call this, in the spotlight or in the shade underneath the spotlight that is Donald Trump. And that's either going to elevate him or it could not elevate him. It didn't Mike Pence, right? So, wherever we are today isn't where J.D. Vance will be in four years.

But right now, as far as, I don't know that I would say J.D. is going to be on a stage with Youngkin. I don't know who else is going to run. And I don't know that he's the presumptive favorite just because of what's happened now. Yeah, look, I think, well, I haven't been doing this forever, but I've been doing this for 20 years, which feels like 100 lifetimes in politics. And what I've watched within the Republican Party, it's a little different within Democrats who are sort of monolithic and they follow each other wherever they go. And, I mean, it's a helpless party in many, many ways, but that's a story for another day. With Republicans, over time, we have chosen leaders that fit the moment. They may not be next in line.

They may not have the best credentials. They may not be what everybody thinks should happen, the next presidential election or the one after that. But we have leaders that fit a very specific moment in time. I think Donald Trump has done that. I think he's done that in 2024 way better than even in 2020 or 2016. He's a leader that meets the moment, not just for the Republican Party, but for the country. And we're going to see where we're at in 2020. God willing, we're in a place for Donald Trump can get this country back on track economically

and get us to a place where we're respected in the world again. And then in 2028, you know, if you have the luxury of not worrying about the existential threats to America, perhaps your mind can wander about what other kind of leadership that you want at that time. But we're going to have a different set of plug-ins at that point. I agree with you that J.D. is definitely going to inherit much of the America first just by virtue of where he is. But we'll see where the country is in four or eight years. By the way, Josh, where are you right now at the RNC? You're in Radio Row.

Like, this is where Kilmead is doing his show? Where are you? I wouldn't know because all I see is a gigantic white background. Yeah, I'm in your Fox studio. I mean, whoever's behind the camera. Fellas, whoever's behind the camera. I love you guys. I probably know.

What is this? I don't know if it's a beautiful location or not. I mean, all I see is a gigantic white fox logo, and I can hear some ambient noise. It gives me the sense that Josh is somewhere interesting. Like, let's get a zoom out. Where are you there, Josh? Yeah. The two here is no joke.

I mean, that is a large two. and I'm blocking out the floor. Democracy, clearly. Democracy on the line, as we well know, is Joe Biden talks about. So it's, it helps. We've got to save that. I'm so I'm glad we're framing it up. I love it. We're glad to have you in a flash cam in the basement of the convention center at the R&C with a lockdown shot of a white background. Thanks for joining us, Josh. God, Lord. You're the man, Will. What are doing here?

You're the man. I'm sitting here in a freaking closet in Dallas, Texas. Well, next time you're in D.C. or New York or somewhere, we're going to have to, paths are going to have to cross, and we'll have a beer and catch up about all of this. Yeah, as long as you take off that lavender tie, I'll go out with you somewhere appropriate. I mean, come on. Is this really a problem for you, Will? Good God. I thought this was a tasteful selection for the Will Kane show.

Is it a Trump tie? Is that a Trump tie? I wish it was a Trump tie. No, it's not a Trump tie. That would be something, though. They still have those? If they have those, I'll look into it. You also want with the dumple, that dimple. I'm a big dimple in the tie guy.

Heggseth doesn't like the dimple. I'm a dimple guy. Me too. Me too. Hexeth likes a fold. Like a fold. It's, I don't know. He also likes shoes of athletic sneakers of bottles.

You got to go with the dimple. This is a more sophisticated look, Will. You were right on the money there, and I don't think anybody else knows what they don't. talking about. Josh Holmes from the Ruthless podcast here with us on the Will Kane show. All right. I want to go back to JD for a moment because I told you there's two things I like, the legacy angle, and I do believe that he's a true believer, Josh.

And so this is what I mean. And I'm going to be real about this. I think there are a couple of different people in the pro-Trump camp. Okay? I'm going to break it down into three categories. And I'm being 100% real. Category one. Love Donald Trump.

to the point of zealotry. He could never do any wrong. He's never done any wrong. And they will reverse rationalize anything into a good thing for Donald Trump. Okay? I know a lot of people in this camp. It's not the camp that I'm in. I don't think that's the camp J.D. Vance is in. Then there's the fakers. I think there are a lot of fakers. And the reason I bring this up is there was a line in the Axios article about what became important to Trump is to not pick somebody who was faking their love for Trump. And I do think a lot of the people, people that were in the running, to even be his vice president, should be suspected of faking their love for Trump. And I think, by the way, Josh, there's two categories of fakers. There's the

establishment fakers. Okay, that's, I mean, I don't believe that all of the, maybe your old boss, your old boss doesn't even fake loving him, you know, so, there's some others. Josh used to work for Mitch McConnell. I'm going to be real. I don't think Marco Rubio actually loves Trump. And I think that would have been a really suspect choice, okay? And there's another category of fakers. There's people that do what we do on the media side who know that they should be pro-Trump because it's the path to fame.

And I think there's a lot of those people who don't actually love Trump or his policies. To be real, I think there are grifters. And I hate that word because it's used as a cudgel. But I do think there are some people that are like, this is the side to be on if I want to be popular. popular, okay? And then there's a third category, Josh, and that is the people who have arrived at Trump through intellectualization, who don't think he is the next coming of the Messiah, who see his pros and his cons, his flaws and his assets, and maybe even in my case have come to understand his flaws in a lot of ways are his assets, and that he is genuinely

good for a positive direction of America. I think that's the camp J.D. Vance is in, and it's one of my favorite things about vance yeah i mean look i think that's a really good breakdown and i totally agree with all those categories by the way i mean look we've sort of been along for this journey ourselves on ruthless in that there was a lot that we liked about four years of donald trump and we had a lot of questions after 2022 about whether or not it was the right time for donald trump in 24 and so we spent the better part of a year and a half interviewing all of the prospective primary candidates that he ran against and watched them make the arguments. And we were sort of conflicted ourselves about whether or not this was the right time for

Donald Trump. Now, that was not the case for 70 percent of the Republican electorate. They've already sold. They wanted Donald Trump back. Ultimately, you know, that is what it is. But I think what you've seen over the last three weeks, starting with that debate against Joe Biden, where he just could kind of clearly lay out himself authentically contrast that, which is with a guy who has no business anywhere in.

near the resolute desk in the Oval Office, and then watch his response immediately to the attempted assassination on him. That's the kind of leadership that I don't even know that America we knew that we needed at this moment. I mean, I grew up, you know, in the Reagan era, you know, did you will? And I think we were sort of taken for granted the fact that everything, we were always on the same, it was always Team America, right? And we always had optimism and hope for a future for our kids and grandkids like the ones that we inherited.

And that slipped away to the point where you didn't really know how bad it was until you saw Donald Trump get up from that stage, raise his fist, and it was like, hell yes. Hell yes. I mean, this is the kind of guy who, God forbid, you have something happen to you overseas, he's going to send the Marines and go get you out of there, right? We have lost that. We don't even talk about that any longer. that that is the slipping of America that right now at this very moment he totally embodies and so that in that last category and i you know i think jd has got a huge uh part of that no question but there's an awful lot of us who have you know tried on different shoes and see what what fits and ultimately have come to the conclusion that at this moment in time in july

of 2024 and in november of 2024 Donald trump is absolutely what this country needs love to do so so what they're going to use josh to your point is jd was he's he was a self-described never trump and he said some really really bad things about trump that i never like is you know i wouldn't i never went that far like in in questioning don't trump but i don't care like i think i actually really genuinely believe his conversion you know what i'd love to do josh you guys should do on a ruthless we should maybe do this together and get some more people i'd like to do a show of my conversion or you know when I when I converted whatever when you came around Trump because here's the truth like and I don't think he might like one of the biggest supporters of Trump that

I know is probably my buddy Pete Heggseth right but that doesn't mean he always was and he'll talk to you about it like yeah right and so it's kind of fascinating and that's kind of fascinating to know and to analyze when people begin because right now Josh we're seeing a conversion even among like Bill Ackman and Elon Musk, although there's, and this is what it was for me, it was a slow conversion. Like, it took, it wasn't like an epiphany moment. It was like, you know, a period of time. And mine's several years in the past.

Mine was probably, if I had to guess, mine's like somewhere between 18 and 20 is my conversion. And, you know, I think it's happening now for Musk and Ackman and Sacks and that crowd. And I do believe it's genuine. Like, I think it's a genuine conversion. I would think it would be fascinating to kind of catalog. And there's some people who were in right away. I'm not denying those people. And there's some people whose conversion was in 15, 16, whatever.

But I kind of like to catalog what did it for people, the moment of your conversion. Yeah, it's going to be very different things, right? And again, part of this is the onslaught of media and how you consume your news and what they tried to do to Donald Trump, both in his campaign and his first four years of being president. If you were not a skeptical consumer of New York Times, Washington Post, AP, you know, all of the broadcast channels, if you were not skeptical about the way they covered things, you probably believe this guy was the worst person on the face of the planet, right? But somewhere along the way, and this is the beauty of a diverse media culture, and they can get information from a whole bunch of different sources these days, you can begin to see some other things.

I find it so fascinating. Like, how about all the liberals who are like, my God, did you know that Joe Biden? Biden's senile? Holy smokes. I never, I never even imagine that. And you're like, what the hell were you watching? Are you kidding me? Like, all you had to do is pop on the TV at some point over the last four years and it became apparent to you. But they live in a echo chamber that exclusively talks about all of the virtues of Joe Biden. There is a echo chamber that you could get misimpressions about everything, everybody in politics, but more particularly Donald Trump. So, you know, it's tough. You have to, those moments that I think maybe did things for individuals are something you're going to have to find outside of the lens of the mainstream media in a lot

of ways. Yeah. Well, I think in a way, you know, Amber Rose, which I don't even know what Amber Rose's claim to fame is. It's like somewhere in the rap culture. She was great, though. I get yeah, but that's what her speech was about. Like, there are those on the right who are like,

oh, how dare you have a self-professed slut or whatever, you know, come talk, and like but her talk was about her conversion and that's what's kind of fascinating it was it was like when she broke out of I really think it is a bit of a mass psychosis that's perpetuated by the mainstream media of a certain vision of Donald Trump shallow vision and how all of a sudden she's like boom oh that's not reality all of a sudden she she told her story of breaking out of that mass psychosis yeah I think that's important and there look this is happening with demographics across the country right now. And it's not really just specific to Donald Trump as it is sort of

conservative governance and the way that you approach how you represent people. And I think, look, Democrats have held on to old dogma, old constituencies just by generational passing him down and we vote Democrat in this household. And you've seen communities, particularly multi-generational Hispanic communities, for example, all of a sudden have a very big shift. It's like, wait a minute, They don't even represent anything that reflects my values at all, and I'm just supposed to go sort of vote Democrat over and over again. Donald Trump's been very good because he doesn't hold on to all of the stigma about what groups you can talk to and what groups you can't.

He doesn't care. He'll go talk to anybody. And so for a lot of these people, it's the first time they're hearing it. You heard it from that young woman last night. I got to imagine that there are people across this country you never even would imagine would check a box for a Republican candidate anywhere where, not only considering it, but we'll do that in November. Oh, absolutely.

Of every race, of every generation. All right, just a couple more question with Josh Holmes here from Ruthless. Since you're way more plugged into D.C. than I am, Josh, and in particular, because you worked in the senatorial office, I'm curious what you know about the view of J.D. Vance among the rest of the Senate. Like, I mean, I get the sense that he's a little bit of the fly in the ointment, that he may not be the most popular among these. And these are feathers in the cap.

You know, there are those who've said, like, all the best people hate him. You know, so, but what is his, what is his reputation? What is his reputation in the Senate? Look, I think it's, it's complicated because he's new, right? I mean, he hasn't been there a long time. Nobody hates J.D. Vance, right? I mean, there are people who go in of both conferences who just don't have an ability to get along with one another, regardless of what they believe or don't believe. that you ultimately have to figure out a way to work with people in order to get anything you want done.

J.D.'s done that. He's done it actually in a bipartisan way. And sometimes he's done things that conservatives are like, wait a minute. This is like way left of center, the things that he's entertaining here. But he's not bound by this sort of rigid ideology. He's been trying to figure out exactly where he can make a difference. And that comes with working with a whole bunch of different people. I'll also say, Will, the Senate is different in that there is a generational divide at this point. You mentioned my old boss and several others in his generation who are sort of on their way out. You've got a whole crop of younger senators. I mean, people who are like my peers, which, by the way, is a very hard thing for me to swallow being a staff for all those years and then seeing guys younger than I am now being nominee for Vice President of the United States. but but but but but but but he sort of runs in the in a crowd of younger conservatives of people

who look at the world a little bit differently and aren't afraid to express it and certainly aren't afraid if they ruffle a couple of feathers as they do express it and I think that's great but there isn't anybody will anywhere in the senate who is like man I really hate that guy you know because those people exist I don't need to name names but they definitely exist but that's that's that's not jd he's been somebody who you mean you mean there are Senators that the other senators hate. Oh, yeah. Those exist.

Other senators. Who? They definitely exist. Who? Come on, Josh. Who? And JD's not one of them. You want me to name names?

Well, you want to be, just the Republican convention. We're supposed to be uniting here. We're supposed to be united here. I'll tell you over a beer sometime. I got a short list of them. I can guess. Here's the most important, you definitely can guess. Here's the most important part.

He's going to come up like a man and tell you that he disagrees with what you're trying to do, and he's going to explain why he disagrees with you and tell you he's going to work against it. That is what a gentleman or gentlelady does in adult life, whether you're in politics, business, or anything else. That's what he's done since he's been in the Senate, and I think it's going to serve him really well when he's got a big role in a new administration. All right. And we'll see how he does against Kamala Harris in a debate.

The left seems cocky about that, by the way. I can't wait for that. I can't wait for that. Yeah. I can't wait. I mean, I hope we get a full Selina Meyer out of her, though. You know what I mean? The whole Veep or Veep thing.

We're going to play that on our show today, by the way. Veep or Veep, where we have a quote from Kamala and a quote from Selena Meyer from the show, Veep, and you have to pick which one is which. It's impossible. That's amazing. That's great. That's why you need to subscribe to the world. Ruthless podcast. By the way, they've got a beautiful setup from the R&C. They're outdoors.

I mean, I don't know who's funding or sponsoring that show, but I got to get a hold of them. But it's a great setup outside the convention center. Quality people. Go subscribe to the Ruthless podcast. Quality people. All right, man. Josh Holmes of the Ritless podcast. I'm also going to have you on today from the R&C. Yeah, man. Have fun. You're the man. We'll do it anytime. Okay. Thanks, Josh. I mean it. You should check it out, the Ruthless podcast. podcast. They're on InstagramX, Apple, Spotify, everywhere. So there's fascinating reporting today

about the head of the Secret Service, the director of the Secret Service saying that they didn't put somebody on the roof where shots were taken at Donald Trump because it was sloped. It would be a safety risk for the Secret Service. That's next on the Will Kane Show. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. DEI has caused us the security, potentially the life of a former president.

DEI about placing representation above merit. It has cost us security on our streets, our lives, our jobs, our economy, our foreign policy, and almost Donald Trump. That's coming up in just a moment here on the Will Kane show. Streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Terrestrial radio all across the country, hit subscribe, Apple, Spotify, to listen, YouTube, to watch. If you're watching, you may come away with the same impression as Gustavo is Ron. hands down but good show uh welcome to the willisha gustavo um it's true i'm like i'm like ron burgundy and talladega nights i don't know what to do with my hands i think it's my desk i don't know

like this is where i put my elbows and then it puts my hands up here and i talk with my hands and it's a real thing okay and you're in my head okay not just you gustavo all of you're hanging around you're in my grill. Do you guys think two a day's young establishment James, Tim Foy-O-Path? Do you think Donald Trump was in his head last night? Did you see something different? Or am I just... I wasn't the only one because it was all over

social media. 100%. What do you think it was? James said that earlier. I mean, we know what it was. We know what it was. But what was it? Was it his eyes? Was it his energy? What was it? I think it was kind of his facial features, too. You could just kind of see the way he looked at things.

I think it was his energy too. Yeah. His energy was a little... It was that he did a smile where it was kind of more of a forced, a little bit maybe. Very introspective. Yeah, you're right, James. Like the two chicks kind of came up a little more of those here. Yeah, I think he was grateful to be there and realizing, I mean, he said it about a hundred times since then. He's not supposed to be here.

Yeah. I think that was also Lee Greenwood's first time playing, explicitly endorsing a candidate. He's always said that song is for both parties and for every American. And this time he was forcefully endorsed a candidate for president of the United States. Well, we almost didn't have Donald Trump. Of course, he took a shot across the ear from a stage in Butler County, Pennsylvania. New reporting shows that the Secret Service considered that building of vulnerability. The Secret Service stayed.

someone inside the building, but not on the roof. According to ABC News, Secret Service Director Kim Chiedel considered it a security risk. Why? Because it's a sloped roof. The quote is, that building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. she told ABC News in an interview on Tuesday quote and so you know the decision was made to secure the building from the inside so secret service whose job is to protect the president of the United States declined to do so because it could put the life or security of an officer of the secret service their job is literally to stand in front of bullets but not stand on a sloped roof your job is literally to take a bullet but not slip in slip lied on a roof.

This is what you get. This is a product of DEI. This is what this is. All right, everyone all concerned. DUI is always a DEI. Let me. DEI, at its very core, is an ideology of placing representation above merit. This is a lady who said 30% of the Secret Service should be female.

That ideology is ingrained now. It's baked in to the United States Secret Service. As it is, every government entity and almost every government. corporation in America placing representation above merit as a result incompetent people run everything and incompetent people make incompetent decisions and as a final straw nobody ever gets fired nobody was fired for the debacle in afghanistan nobody has ever held accountable this whole idea, this whole ideology, this whole representation above merit, clearly has cost us so many things. Maybe it almost costed the life of Donald Trump.

It is certainly, as it's affected law enforcement and prosecutors across the country, affected the safety of our streets and literally our lives. In corporate America, it's affected our job. our HR departments. At the highest levels of government, it has cost us the security of our economy. It has cost us our national security. This is an insidious, cancerous ideology that is inherently anti-American. America, let the best man win. America, risk takers push west.

America, meritocracy. This ideology undermines everything in its represented right here in what happened with the United States Secret Service Geogotch on YouTube no one political opponent

name one political opponent not talk about stuff about another what is this I don't understand this two days you sent me this comment what is this well there was the one after that because they were saying J.D. Vance was talking trash about Trump back in the day so they were saying name one politician that hasn't done that before

about another politician. Yeah, I don't. Okay, fine, but I still think J.D. Vance's opinions on Donald Trump will be brought up. I don't think, by the way, I don't think they're cheap shots. If the left brings it up, I think it's worthy. You should have to say, what happened, J.D?

Why did you change your tune? If somebody said that to me, I wouldn't begrudge the question. Will, you were on ESPN in 2016 or 17, you know, saying you weren't pro-Donald strong what happened fair question let's talk about it and i'll explain so i think that jd's past positions are fair game and i have no doubt by the way that he'll be able to articulate his conversion you like the idea of my show idea with josh holmes explain your conversion that's a good show idea right yeah yeah love that one missy on youtube says i'm not crazy about jd brent on youtube says

Vance is better than Vivek. And then Karen Schaefer says he admitted talking crap to DJT. Is that about Vance? Yes. That he admitted, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he has. What do you got, two days? Speaking of talking crap, someone on her YouTube said something like this, like you mentioned earlier in the show.

what an airhead show from sea crabby yeah um okay yeah well here's what i'd say i'd say two things um uh guilty guilty i guess like i mean i like airheads the candy is that what he means i mean i don't know when that person tuned in when we were debating the top five flags or bottom five flags in america when we were debating ron desantis's lifts in his boots which he had and i stay by There's Ron DeSantis, people still mad. They still jump in. And I'm here to tell you, I like Ron DeSantis. And he still had some lifts in his boots.

Who knows why that person calls his show in Airhead. Here's what show. We do have fun. We do veer off script. And also, I think if you're using the word airhead, you're probably 65. Good point. Do you think anybody, Airhead, and there's nothing wrong with you being 65. We welcome you into our big tent.

But nobody says Airhead. Nobody says Airhead anymore. Am I right? No, it's like saying Bonehead. back in the day. Yeah. I think Bonehead has survived the test of time more than Airhead. A little bit.

I think the candy probably ruined it. James, you're like 19 years old. Do you and your friends use the word of Airhead? Now, if we're using a word for a lower IQ individual, we'd probably use things you wouldn't use on air. I don't even know what to make a guy. I don't know. Thousands of words. It's thousands of difference of words, but they're not polite.

Does anyone else feel like every time James talks, every time you talk, James, I feel like the goal of whatever you're saying isn't so much what you're saying, but that you have the impression you're a badass at the end of what you're saying. So what you just said was designed to make me think, you and your friends are up there with some really not ready to say for TV. No, not at all. I just, I was like, the only words I could think of are words I can't say, so there's nothing more to it. Yeah, it's like he's in the group chat with his buddies. We did have someone say... Such an airhead. We did have someone say this.

I don't know whose mom this is from the show, but it was very nice to say this. Wills' staff. It's Ann Brightrick. Love Will's staff. What a band. Yeah, they did the plural Willses off my middle name, Williams. Wills' staff.

So big fan of you three. There. Yeah. My, my, uh, my fiancee loved the Wills thing. She just keeps calling you Wills now. And that's your name to her from now on.

Really? Yeah. She thought it was hilarious. Well, so it was unanimous. Yeah. It was unanimous. Everybody loves you guys on air? I think so.

Yeah, that's it. Not this one. No, really. Definitely not this. Barry. Oh, Barry. Barry Neal, 1814. Your staff sucks.

Get a job. Thank Barry. Get a job, Barry. Whatever. Barry. people are saying guys all I'm saying is people are saying many people are saying Ryan Gideon jumps into the comment says we'll miss you on ESPN man love what you're doing now though go Eagles oh he's an Eagles fan

well I mean it's all right that's cool it's big tent like I said 65 year olds welcome Eagles fans welcome yep even lefties welcome right here on the Will Cane show. All right. I just want to see. You got this one too. Dave McCormick, throw that up. First time watching this show.

And I've now set a reminder so I won't forget. You can do that on YouTube. Set a reminder. Notifications. I guess that's not the Senate, Pennsylvania candidate, David McCormick. It's got a Tennessee logo. He might be. He might be at the RNC. He might be at the RNC right now.

watching from that basement where we just had that basement where we just had Josh Holmes broadcasting to us from and then Patty Broadway says great podcast will by the way love you're from Sherman that's right so great to have a homeboy podcast option it's a standout thank you home I'm your homeboy then I found town Texas I found one one more yeah this person was a Spotify listener usually it's on Spotify but watched on YouTube for the first time. I'm so happy to put faces to the team, Go Texas. That a boy. Yeah. A girl. Oh yeah, that's a girl, Laura. That a girl, Laura.

Yep. Isn't that interesting, like, when you listen to something? I've done that so many times. It is weird. You create a visual image of who these guys are. Like, who were you guys in their minds before they went to YouTube and saw? I mean, somebody did comment one time that I did such a good job painting pictures of you guys like all right two a days two days got his nickname people have asked me this from his previous job he looks like a Brooklyn um garage band on the weekends bartender bartender at night garage bands on the weekend beard you know long hair

sleeve tats uh that's that's that's pretty accurate young establishment james wears vests in the summer um he wears loafers he's got a vest on today it's literally a hundred degree in Texas. It's 95 here, just to confirm. It's 95 degrees here. Really? Yes. He's got a, and that looks like a fleece vest. This is, uh, he's wearing. No, this was actually, this is an L.A. It's down.

June of 20. It has down feathers. This is a June of 2023, uh, U.S. open vest, so it's meant for June, July type weather. Oh, good. So, Youngest Towsman James is showing he's into golf, you know, um, he's Sue me. He's got a cherubuk face. He's setting up

his dating profile right now. For those whole, Hallway conversations as a golf game. Yeah. How you swinging them? That's what he says to Brett Bear in the hallways. And then tinfoil Pat has unfortunately morphed because the prior description was he had an alt-right haircut,

but he's let it go, which is a shame. But he is rocking a 90s goatee. So that it's a move. We need to get you an actual tinfoil hat, though, I think, to put on during like a conspiracy segment. You could just make one, right? Yeah. And I got rid of it because I didn't want to, you know, make it a thing.

So. What happened to the all right haircut? Why did you let that go? You're like doing something floppy for the summer. Let's get back to the... Yeah, I was like, I don't know. I don't really leave my house to go get haircuts, so I'm kind of at the mercy of like a sister or my wife

or whoever wants to cut my hair, so. Hmm. And we've got to get you a more conspiratorial background, too. I know if we pan that camera left or right, there's some whiteboards with some things connecting. Yeah, there's some strings connecting dots and, you know, thumbtacks. Behind my head is a whiteboard. Wow. It's just propped up there.

Yep, that's what they look like. That is the Willisha. We're glad to have you here as well as part of the Willisha listening to The Will Cain Show on Spotify or Apple. Or big numbers. We've been doing big numbers on YouTube. So we're glad you're part of the audience. It is a different show. It is in their head.

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