Will Cain Country - How Covid Changed More Than We Realized

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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What changed from COVID and never came back in America? Plus, Joy Reed, Erling Holland, and more on Wilcane Country. It is Wilcane Country, normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time. At the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. But we're always here for you. Just follow us at Spotify or on Apple. The topic that no one wants to discuss, pandemic. Yesterday, boys, tinfoil pat, two a day, stand.

I did a little charity. I sometimes donate time watching the Will Kane show on Fox News and a post-taping cocktail with various groups who are raising money. Yesterday, I entertained a few ladies who came in. and won a package to watch the Will Kane show. Afterwards, we went to have a few drinks. Yes, in downtown Dallas. And in the course of that conversation, they asked me questions about television and politics. Pandemic came up. And they were sort of still into the concept of COVID. And I told them, COVID is a topic as they talked about D&I Tulsi Gabbard releasing new files

about Anthony Fauci, how much he knew, what he knew, how much he was involved in COVID. And I said to her, yes, I've read about it. Yes, I'm aware of the release. I said, it's interesting. Doing that on television, I run into a wall. And the wall is that people don't like to talk about the thing that probably impacted our lives the most in our lifetime. Every single person watching, every single person in listening, and everybody involved in the show, if we were to identify one thing that changed our world, it would have to be the year. and a half that we spent afraid of one another, wearing masks, taking shots, and shutting down

schools. And one of the ladies said to me, well, that changed. I was in a suit, and she said, like, my husband is an attorney, and he doesn't wear a suit anymore. And his paralegal comes to the office in jeans. And she said, we lost a formality in our society that never really came back. And I thought about that, and I was like, yeah, that's wild. And it got me thinking, what else changed and never came back? See, we don't like it. And I know this from ratings. People don't like to revisit COVID. They don't even really, really, really want to hear about Fauci.

They don't want to hear about the impact of the shots. They don't want to talk about it. I think that's fatigue. I think it's they don't want to revisit the decisions that they made. I don't think they want to revisit how they felt. And so they don't want to talk about COVID. And so I don't either, for fear of this episode never being downloaded or streamed, but I do want to kind of explore for one second.

what changed and never came back? And what made me think about this wasn't just casual attire. There's a note in our production email that Patrick concluded from a study, a cultural study from Outkick. And what is the appropriate way now to go about the handshake? And that's one of those things that I think kind of did change with COVID. And I think it's awful. I grew up in an era where you judged a man by his handshake. the firmness, the eye contact, it said a lot about a man. That's how I was raised. That's what my dad told me. And I think he was right.

And I do pass judgment based upon the quality of a handshake. But we live in a world now where the fist bump is probably what? 30% of greetings. Almost 50. 30. It might be close to it. It's enough that when we go in, you wonder and you look, is he fist bumping or is he handshaking?

Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And it just got me wondering, like, what else changed that we never got back? Because in some way, I think we all operate as though we're back. You know, that's a moment, an embarrassing moment in our history. But I think that lady was right. If you step back for a moment, there are things that have changed. Like Patrick, working on this show is not, honestly, a pre-pandemic possibility.

The fact that you live in Florida, that you join us via. a link. That is simply not something that would have existed in 2018. Work from home. 2019. Work from home is still. Still. Still. How many people are working from home?

I know that Patrick does, but like, is it a high percentage of the population that still works from home in some significant percentage of the week? Absolutely. A lot. And you never heard of that beforehand, ever. It wasn't a possibility. It wasn't even an option. And now, like, now most jobs, I have.

had a friend just get a new job. It's the option of a hybrid workplace. I think a lot of it went back in the bottle. It's hard to find remote work, I think, still. But, like, because, like, businesses still have all of these spaces that they have to fill in. And so I think that, like, it was something that happened, and they're trying to get it back to the other way, but it's still, like, in between. But just saying, like, it's not fully there. You don't have to come every day as wild to me, like, to come in. Right. Like, what? That's the same.

Right. I mean, that's how. a real appreciable impact on commercial real estate. I mean, vacancies in commercial real estate in almost every market in this country. Even a booming market like Dallas, it's not great. And you're right. It's because people are working from home. So casual, work from home, handshakes. We're wearing pajamas in public. I think that students, do you think that's a COVID-era thing? I think you could be right. Like, people wearing those-jaxville. I don't know, Patrick. Yeah, well, that's Jacksonville. Sorry.

Good old Walmart in Jacksonville on a Wednesday. I see these high schoolers wear sweatpants everywhere and pajamas everywhere with like ugs. It's insane. Agreed. Yes. Agreed. An airplane trip? Yeah.

That is incredible. I mean, it is people in those flannel pajama bottoms all the time. Yes. It's pretty wild. Education has obviously changed. I think we've seen that with my kids. like the amount the way the amount that a computer became so integral and i'm not saying that's bad

i'm just saying it is you know that every student now basically has to have a laptop you have to i think it's issued i don't know about every school but i don't know patrick your kids are homeschooled right so that's different but every every school kids are on laptops now that's how they do school, even at school. I mean, I changed that too, but yeah, I do agree. I think it gave, I think the big thing that we overlook is it gave a lot of people social anxiety, not wanting to be, go to parties,

not wanting to go to concerts. Like concerts suffered big time from it. I don't think people go to concerts anymore because when you took that out of the equation, it's hard to go back to it. So going to big live events, I think, changed completely. I still tell people I have COVID just to get out of things.

I think social isolation. That's something that has not bounced back. People are much more comfortable. Kids are much more comfortable with antisocial behavior, staying in the room, playing video games. Because the government told us to. Not going out. Yeah. And I don't think we're, if whatever we were before, we're not back to, we've come back, obviously.

We're not behaving the same way we did in 2021, but we're also not behaving the same way we were in 2018. It hasn't come back. in that same way. How often do you go to the grocery store? Well, me? Will never goes. You've never gone to the grocery store? Never?

I'm saying. Never? Must be nice. Probably not. I mean, not since you turned 30. I go every week. Me? I don't. I don't. I'm in a very traditional relationship. Yes.

You're in Texas, so. But I know my wife, you know, which. She orders thing. I mean, she doesn't go to the grocery store a lot. I mean, it's like one out of every two or three grocery trips is by her. You have to feed an army, though. No, but still, it's like we used to go to, you used to go to Walmart. You go to, you know, the local grocery store, but people get all that stuff delivered now.

It's literally, I mean, I think that changed a lot. Delivery was a big thing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, but like there's like this theory. It's like, have you ever seen your neighbor actually? bring groceries inside. And I've actually seen it more recently them getting deliveries of groceries. Well, I'm sure this has been done to some extent, but I do think that should be a study and it should

be quantified. It should be listed. It should be cataloged. What about life changed and never went back? And not all of it's going to be bad. I think the delivery thing is a good thing. I mean, I guess it reduces your ability to bump into people at the grocery aisle. So you're, again, less of a social animal. But some of it's good. A lot of it is bad. But the theory, the theory remains, you know, we changed in a short amount of time. And we didn't change back in a lot of ways. I'd be curious to know what the ways are that we did not change back. Let's take a quick break, but continue on Wilcane Country.

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Listen and follow now at Fox News Podcasts.com. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. Speaking of theories, I'm fascinated by theory that I ran across. I want to share with you guys. So first of all, I would say he's my families, my family's joint, second favorite soccer player of all time. My family is generally a Kevin DeBreina fan. my boys wear number 17.

He is my favorite. He plays for Belgium and Napoli now, but long-time player for Manchester City. He's beautiful, not physically, in the way that he plays soccer. And I love, I love Kevin Dubroina. But my second favorite, my second favorite player is also a Manchester City player. And this is because my younger son does play the same position. And he is very similar in that he's the biggest guy on the field, on the pitch. And so therefore stylistically, you know, if my son is to reach his full potential, it would be some version of this guy.

Erling Holland, Norway, Manchester City, 6'5, striker, goal scoring machine. He was asked about his experience here at the World Cup and America. Watch. They have so much like pride for the country. They love the country so much. It's everything about it. National Anthem was incredible. It's amazing. Goose bumps all over. They have so much pride for their country.

The national anthem was incredible. I have goosebumps all over. Holland appreciating what he's seeing here in America. Now, I love that, and that's amazing. Holland in the world of soccer is, and I'm telling this and describing this for Patrick and the audience, who I don't expect to necessarily. He's probably the most famous soccer player that Americans would really have the least idea about. In fact, there's a video going all around right now, a viral video where Holland

is hanging out. I don't know where he is because I don't know where Norway is playing right now, but some lady, some Americans are going, somebody said you guys play for Norway, you're the Norwegian soccer team. And he's literally the, I think he is the third highest paid, he's a top five highest paid soccer player in the world.

I mean, he makes 80 million a year, I think, and he's incredibly, incredibly famous on the world stage. But these American ladies have no idea, and he's like, no, I don't, but he does. He walks around here city. He points his social media manager. Yeah. Yeah, he walks around New York City. anonymous. So there's an accent.

There was a video of him just walking around New York City right around where we work here and no one recognizes him. He just has everything is crazy. They might in five years because he is young. He's like 24, 25 years old. And if he continues to stay on the path

that he's on, he's going to replace Messi and Ronaldo, not to their height or their level, but the conversation in the coming years won't be Messi Ronaldo. It'll be Killian Mbapé from France and Erling Holland. of Norway. But that's right.

And so I saw a video today, and you guys haven't seen this, and we don't have this. So after Norway won their second game, they will have to play France in the third game of their group stage. And he's asked about going up against killing Mbapé in France. And Holland says, I don't care. We'll probably lose to them. They'll probably win the whole thing. And it's an interesting thing for an athlete to say. he's probably logistically and statistically right.

France is the favorite to win the entire tournament, and they probably will beat Norway. But it's a weird thing for us to hear an athlete say. You would not hear that come out of Tom Brady's mouth. You would not hear that come out of Aaron Rogers' mouth. But I saw a video I wanted to share with you guys speaking of theories on. I have that one. This is what I love.

So this is first, yes, Dan, let's do that. Let's listen to Erling Holland talking about Norway playing France. X is France and the likes of Kiliin Mbapé. How big a challenge is that going to be for Norway? You guys in flying form, can't wait for it. Honestly, I don't care too much now. We're through. We managed to get through, which is incredible.

So I couldn't care too much about that game now. They're probably going to win against us. They're probably going to win the whole tournament. Well, that's quite the stable. But congratulations. Through to the knockout stage? All right, so he says we're through, meaning we're through the group stage. We're going to make the knockout stage.

I don't care. Before I give you this theory, Patrick, what are you making? An ugly face? You don't like hearing that from an athlete? No, I think it's, I think it's, I'll be honest. I hate athlete speech where they, you know, don't actually give you a direct answer about things. I think it's refreshing in a way. Yes.

I was honest. Yeah, I agree. I do wish you'd have a little balls. Americans would never say that. You need to feel really good about yourself. Like, you know, I'm going to be like, I'm going to kick their ass, you know? you need to feel that. And the fact he doesn't feel it, I don't know.

Okay. Well, not many people can accuse Holland of not having balls, the way that he plays. But I'm going to tell you something. This is why I think fascinating. And this is what I love. This is back to my theory of what I love about America. And honestly, it's what I love about travel. I love different people with different ways of life.

and I love that exploration of culture. Now, I don't know if this is true or if this is a good theory, but I saw this video literally probably 10 minutes before we went on air today. This, in the world of soccer, Holling is described as a Viking. He looks like a Viking. He's got long, blonde hair drawn back into a ponytail. He's got about the squarest jaw you could possibly imagine, a big square head, and he's a giant. He's certainly a giant in the world of soccer.

This video said what Holland voiced here, whether he knows it or not, is the ultimate Viking answer. Okay, so the theory goes like this, that in Norse mythology, a warrior battles and dies. And when he dies, he goes to Valhalla. Valhalla is a place where you go to train, and you train for what is the final battle, Ragnarok. Now, in Norse mythology, they have good gods and bad gods. And I don't remember the names of the two types of gods, but, you know, most people probably... And those are good gods, yeah. Well, and the bad gods are most typically represented by frost giants.

And there's a name for them that I can't remember, but they're frost giants. The Jodon. And the training in Valhalla leads to the final battle known as Ragnarok, between the good gods and the bad gods. And you fight on behalf of the good gods when you're training in Valhalla. But in Norse mythology, the bad gods win. They win Ragnarok. They win the final battle. And so it's an interesting mythology wherein you are fated to lose.

You are faded, but yet you battle anyway. And this guy who was laying this out was like, there's a difference between a champion and a hero. And heroes are often fated to lose. That's what makes them heroes. It's not heroic necessarily to be the champion. And he said, it's not just Norse mythology. Think about everything we talk about. Even the story of Jesus, you know, or the Battle of the Alamo.

we turn those guys who look at certain death into heroes, not because they give up, not because they quit, because they fight anyway. They fight anyway with everything they've got to make it not so as fate would have it determined, but that they do so anyway. And Holland, he says, sets himself up for the ultimate hero arc. It may not be that Norway beats France. It may not be that Norway wins the World Cup, but Holland scores. two goals against them while going down and he becomes a hero.

And that's the difference between a hero and a champion. And that's, I guess, core to this culture, this mythology is key to who he is, a Viking. I get that and it sounds heroic and great. But it also kind of comes off like, well, we're probably going to lose anyways. So it's like you're setting yourself up for like, well, if we lose it, it's okay, that kind of thing. It could come off. It might be great, though, if there's no pressure. No pressure on you.

Right. You're putting on your pressure on yourself. Yeah. If you truly feel like that, maybe they'll have more success. Joy, Reed, Shaq, and more when we come back on this wild and unpredictable episode of Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. And I don't hear, I don't hear defeatism in that. Like the way you describe that, Dan, I get it.

But that's not what I hear when I'm hearing that from Holland. And if I have to choose between what I just heard. and Levar Ball speak it into existence, I probably choose Holland. Like, would I rather someone who says that and battles in the end to the death? Or the guy that talks a big game and folds. I'm not saying the ball kids or LeVar Ball folds, but I certainly see a lot of people like that that talk big and then don't rise to the occasion. You know? So NFL players talk a lot of like that too.

Yeah. I really liked that theory. I don't know if it's true, but speaking of theories, I really like that. Meanwhile, James Dolan, the owner of the New York Knicks, has brought a championship home to the city of New York. But Joy Reid says that James Dolan is, in fact, a plantation owner. A headline from the New York Post, Joy Reid calls Nick's boss James Dolan a plantation owner for accepting Trump's White House invite, quote, hurts my heart. The article says, Dolan is purposely putting them in the line of fire of an administration that has been openly hostile towards black folks,

and it's messed up because the players will get the brunt of it because they're easy targets, she said. She went on to say the invite seems very slavy. There's a perverse thrill that comes with making black athletes, especially black men, look subservient, and that's what this is at the root of all of it. So an invitation to the White House is very slavy. Dude. How do you even get there? Do you start there? What a fun game she's set up. Never lose. Don't get invited to the White House? Racists. Invited to the White House. Very slavy. No matter how you spend it, she can make it the thing that she wants.

She is a top five race grifter. She is a top five monetization of the destruction of goodwill in this country. That is like, and she, she's on the, she's in the modern day Mount Rushmore. And it's, it's so nakedly, so nakedly for self-gain. Like she has no job. You think she believes it? No cable TV show. No.

Don't know. Don't care. Not fully. She needs attention. whatever whatever she's got i don't i don't know what she's got a podcast i don't know what she's got but she needs attention for it and this is this is like selling your soul to the devil that's what this is i need attention so i will say horrible horrible things that are obviously inaccurate and maybe to your point i don't even believe in order to get that click to get those dollars

It's just a ridiculous thing to say. Like... Wait. Yeah, so technically there were two people. So this was an interview of Joy Reid with Jamel Hill. Oh, good. I think Jamel Hill said some of that. Well, we got half the Mount Rushmore.

Jamel Hill said... Now we've carved out half of the Mount Rushmore. Who is the other half? I'm going to bring on the ultimate person to talk about this. Who would fill out there? Who were the other two? And I was trying to get the... I was trying to get the video clip of it,

but there's... She only does video on some of them. And so there was only... audio and it was like a whole there's two hours worth of audio to go through and but i did confirm it but uh yeah it's very interesting speaking of the new york nix um i don't know if you saw this video but a lady during the celebration parade uh do you have a video dan i see you ready to push something is oh so you have this lady yeah who's dressed in new york nix garb she grabs a blue and orange trash that was i guess a special issue for the trash for the parade route she dumps all the

trash on the street so that she can take the trash can home here so goes what are you doing all right here's what turns out she works for j p morgan chase oh she is their DEI consigillary go ahead Patrick uh believe you're using a different wrong tense will he's Oh, you mean a wrong pronoun? No, no. She worked. Oh. She worked.

She worked. Sorry. Past tense. She's been fired from J.P. Morgan Chase for this video as their DEI consigliary. Headline from the New York Post, Nick's fan trash can grab ends with fines, firing, and walk of shame return trip for J.P. Morgan Chase exec. $75 for littering, $100 fine for impeding sanitation operation, which is low in my mind. Those are low fines.

Should be 100K. And fired from J.P. Morgan. I think she had to bring it back. I mean, is that? I mean, I get it a little bit. It's like, wouldn't this trash can be badass in my apartment? Yeah, I was going to say, I was like, I kind of want to take. My wife was down there, and she said there's so many things you could just grab, like,

the poles and stuff like that and, you know. But is it worth getting fired? Should she have gotten fired? Should you get fired for something like that that happens outside of work, not related to it? Dude, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing for J.P. Morgan. That's an embarrassing thing for one of your employees to be doing. Dumping the trash on the street is the most embarrassing part of it.

Like, just turning it. I think it's even worse than stealing the trash can. It's taking all that trash and emptying it out on the street. you steal the trash can. Just take the trash with you, it'd be better. Then you get the trash can. That'd be funny, walking down the street with all that. But some people are saying she shouldn't have been fired.

Yeah, well, I'm sorry, my heart does not bleed for trash lady. Let's take a quick break, but continue on Wilcane Country. And finally, in Patrick's favorite story of the day, I did see this, Patrick, and it did cross my algorithm. I like the way that you characterize this in your note. Shack destroys round-earthers with facts and logic. Shack on a podcast with Bill Burr, in all seriousness, this is like Shaq in his theory on filling up gas. If you've ever seen that on T&T, it was incredible when he was explaining to Ernie and Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith that it's cheaper to fill up. What is it?

Never let your gas tank go below a quarter. Keep filling up. Don't let it go all the way bottom, and it's cheaper that way. and they were like, no, it's not. And he gets real mad because they don't understand his logic. Have you seen this? And he's like, he keeps starting over and explaining it again.

No, it's only $25. When you do that, it's only $25. Not $100. So it pertains. They're like, yeah, but dude, you're filling it up four times as often. So it's the same $100. It's like, no, you don't understand. He keeps explaining it to him again.

It's incredible. This is, while you look that up, Dan, This is... When it gets to half, then you put $20, you bring it back to full. But if I keep doing it, I would have to stop off and it still spend $80. No, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. Why? You're complaining about when it gets to zero, you spend $80, right?

When it gets to half, you put $20. Then when it get back to half, you put $20. Yeah, but I keep stopping, putting $20 and it'll be $80 the same amount of gas. I'm driving the same amount of gas. The average human stops once a week for gas, right? With you, you only work here twice. You would probably have to stop maybe once every two weeks. But four times 20 is 80, because I'm a lot of gas.

to stop four times. No, you're not going to stop four times. No, you're not going to stop four times. Wednesday, it's going to be 40, and then on Friday it'll be 40. Not 40, 20. It's going to be 20. It's going to be 20. Not half. It's incredible. It's incredible. And Shaq is so serious and so devoted to it. And you get, you get like swimming head. He forces you into swimming head a little bit. You know what I mean? No, no, no. You don't get it. And you're like, God, am I can? At the end, you're almost like, am I confused? Is he wrong?

Am I wrong? And he does the same thing right here with Bill Burr on whether or not the earth is flat. White people started to catch up with the internet. But we went in a stupid direction. Yeah. Like flat earthers rather than like being these people at the top are the ones we should be upset. You know what thing? Earth is flat?

Huh? What? You know, I'm just to ask the question. Do you? I'm just saying, I took a... Oh my God, dude. My question is, what is the advantage the people in power have that if it's actually flat, I'm thinking it's round?

Like, what does that get them? Oh, that's interesting. I don't know. Like, I get the other things. I just said, I fly a lot. No, you stopped it. You got to have his explanation. Then he gets into his explanation.

I fly a lot. And then he goes on to explain his flat earth theory. You got to grab it, Dan. You got to grab it. Right. It is in the rundown as well. Yeah, I thought I was like, this is going long. It's like a three minute video.

Yeah, but the part where he says, I fly a lot, and I've been on a 25-hour flight, and I've looked out the window the entire time. And he explains if the Earth is round, and I'm flying from here to here, how come the plane never does this? How come the nose never turns down and goes around the Earth like that? You know what I'm saying? Like, how do I not end up up? side down basically is what he's saying, right?

It's called the nose down paradox. Yes. That is such a way to dress up a dumb theory. Call something the paradox. The nose down paradox. Are you a flat earth, Patrick? I dabble. So you got to be in or out.

What does that mean, I doubt? You got to be in or out. I'm like Shaq. I like to ask questions, you know? That's not good enough. That's not good enough. I'm not a flat earther. No, I'm not a flat earther.

I'm also not a round-earther. But you find this argument from Shaq compelling? The nose-down paradox? I think it's interesting because there is, and I've seen videos of other people asking pilots, they go, hey, do you know, what do you think the Earth is? And they go, oh, it's flat. It's like these are pilots, right?

And then some, but obviously some pilots are going to say otherwise. Do you want to finish Shaq's here? All right, here, here's what Patrick finds compelling. Go ahead, Shaq. Oh, my God. I didn't know this. I'll let you cook. One time I took a 25-hour flight, and the plane never did this.

That's all I said. That's how it works. Hold on. If you're on a- See, the plane is supposed to constantly be dipping slowly? If you're on the map, if U.S. is here and another country is there, when I was going to that country, the plane never did that. That's all I said.

That's all I said. Think about what I'm saying. You notice when you fly over the year. If you say it's over here, there's another country over here on the bottom, whatever. When you fly, my plane never did that. That's all I said. I would because then I'd be like the earth is round, but it didn't do that. I'm just saying, that's all.

I'm just saying is the best, by the way, argument in the world. I'm just saying. If you're listening on radio, Spotify or Apple, he does this with his hand. He, like, he says, the plane never like curves around and goes under. And he said, he goes on to say, I've been on 25-hour flight and I've looked out the window the whole time. And it never did this. The plane.

Do you know how long the earth is? And it went around the other side. Well, I think what he's saying is there should be some compensation for the plane to adjust for the curvature. They do. You just don't see it or feel it. Yeah, they do. But they don't actually adjust for it. But you're going like this.

You just don't see it because it seems like you're going flat. By making sure you stay at 30,000 feet, you are by definition doing that. If they didn't, you would be, as you approached, you just get getting higher and higher and higher and higher in altitude. Correct. As the earth curved away from you. Yeah, so they set it at 30,000 feet, but you don't feel like you're going down on a roller coaster. No, but they're not pointing it down. That's what Shaq is saying.

Do you know that spaceships, when they go off the Earth, they're technically going off sideways, not up? They're literally going because the Earth is rotating, so they're going off the side of the Earth. Dan, I will tell you, while I dabble in Flat Earth, I don't believe in space at all. It's not Santa Claus. No, I think we live in a realm.

So I don't. What does that mean? I think things are just like... The Arctic Wall or crap. You know, kind of like what Tom Bill You was saying. Like, it's kind of like a video game and things kind of like become the matrix theory. As you, as you move around. So like you don't exist until I need you to exist.

And like, when I, if I go to Dallas, Dallas isn't really real until it needs to be real. It doesn't like become... Well, what about me? I'm in Dallas. And so, like, if Dallas isn't real while you're in Jacksonville, what, what am I? You get, so you don't exist until, until, like, I have to see you, like, on TV. But I'm pretty sure I exist when we're not talking. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure I exist while we're not talking. It's like, did time exist before you're born? Did that really happen? Did the world happen for millions of years or whatever? No, that's just a story that's created. Oh. It's no different than a video. So everything is a story that's just created.

Got it. Essentially. Everything is, yeah, created around you. that's insanity science I'll go find the story him and him and Patrick could have a real go ahead

so you don't believe in objective reality you don't believe in objective reality some objective reality so I don't think I don't think it's very easy to change your gender I think those are things are kind of difficult but nothing's real but nothing's real so

I think you're picking and choosing your simulation yeah partly yeah it's part I could be whatever I want. Yeah. I mean, it's because of beliefs that have already built up. So I'm probably not, yeah, yeah, it's probably an issue of my, you know, what I believe already. It's a U issue.

Correct. Yes. I think that's a good way to put a button on it. Now all you have to say is, I'm just saying. Say that and we're good. Just saying. There we go. That's all you ever have to say.

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