Will Cain Country - I Was There: Inside UFC's Historic White House Celebration (ft. Jack Posobiec)

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

The UFC’s White House event is a wrap, and it was one for the history books. Senior Editor at Human Events, Jack Posobiec joins Will & The Crew to compare their firsthand experiences of one of the most brutal MMA fights in the history of the sport, as well as break down the latest major breakthrough in the Iran negotiations. With military operations in the Middle East wrapping up, Jack also weighs in on how difficult it would be to sell the American public on potential military action towards Cuba and Mexican Cartels. Plus, Will & The Crew break down one of the most insane weekends in sports this year, from a near perfect open from the U.S. Men’s team at the World Cup to the impressive politeness on display from visiting Japanese soccer fans. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Follow at Spotify or on Apple. Hanging out with us today, tinfoil, Pat, two-a-day stand, and the senior editor of human events. Author of Bulletproof, The Truth About the Assassination Attempts of Donald Trump. It's Jack Pesobic. What's up, Jack? Good morning. What's going on? Well, you're not back in Texas already, are you?

I am. He said proudly. You have like some kind of teleportation access to like Scotty beam me up technology? Secrets. Because you were at UFC last night at the White House. I know. I didn't see you, Jack. You were there as well, right?

Yeah, yeah. No, it was hard to move around. But yeah, no, I was there. And I mean, outside of the White House, what a fight. Just what a night of incredible bouts. First time it's ever gone all knockouts at an event. Like, I'm. I'm pinching myself that that actually happened.

Like, was that real? Apparently it was. Okay. There's so much going on. We're going to talk to Jack as well about the potential peace deal with Iran. But let's just do this, Jack. Okay. Yes, I'm back in Texas.

I got a, uh, oh, 7 a.m. flight. So I got two hours sleep last night, right? Nice. I left the White House at 1.30, I think. I think it was 1.30. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm back in the hotel room, maybe two, and it takes a while to wind down from something like that. You don't just, I don't.

I don't hit the head on the pillow and go down. So you're up for a while. So I probably got to bed about three, and I got up at five to make it to the airport for this flight. And every moment, Jack, that I want to feel sorry for myself, I get this email every morning from Foxx. They have multiple emails, and it shows the president's daily schedule. and the president is already, I think he's already there, right? He's in France for the G7 summit. Which, and I got his schedule, I was looking at it.

I think he left directly from the fight. Like, I think it was wheels up at Joint Brace Andrews, like in the 2 o'clock hour. So he went from the fight to Joint Base Andrews, got on and flew to France for the G7 Summit, and he's freaking 80. He's 80. What the hell is going on? You know, it's funny because I was doing the name. interview with um so like vox was there i guess and they had reached out to me and i've gone on with like

their their one guy a couple of times and they were asking me about that and and they and they brought up they said what do you think his age he's 80 you know you guys were pretty critical of biden and i'm like i was critical of biden because i could point out obvious signs of decline and things to be critical of and yet when i see the president he's like holding a press conference after he just held another press conference and he's flying off around the world now he's watching ufc all night now he's watching ufc all night Now he's on the plane. He's suddenly in France. I'm like, show me the sign.

If you can show me the sign, then sure, yeah, fine. I'll point that out. But I just don't see it because the guy's nonstop. And by the way, Will. And he's famous for not sleeping on the plane. He actually likes to work on the plane. I know. I said to my wife, she goes, I don't think he's probably slept on the plane, right?

And I'm like, I don't think so. Everything I read is he doesn't sleep on Air Force One and he walks around waking everybody up. He's like, Marco hides on the plane. so that he won't find him to wake him up. When we went to Anchorage, we went to the Putin, you know, the meeting that he had there. I was on that trip. And it was exactly the same way. So we fly all the way there.

It's, what was it, six hours there? And that's Air Force one speed. They can go fly higher, faster than everybody else. And all, but DC to Anchorage, then all the way back to Andrews. We landed Andrews, like two in the morning. It's been, I don't even know how many hours since we left and got in the motorcade in the morning. And we sit there and then all of a sudden the Secret Service guys sit down. And I'm like, okay, they probably know something that I don't know.

So why did all the Secret Service guys sit down? Thought we were here. I'm like, you know, you're like ready to go. You know, cars right over there. And then we all there like, take your seats, take your seats. Caroline Levitt comes over. She goes, oh, he's on the phone. He's, he's, he's, he's, he wanted to call Zelensky and talk about everything.

that he talked about Putin with, so he just got him on the phone. So he's just going to be a while because he's on a phone call. He doesn't want to hang up because they need to have to call him back. I'm like, it's like three, I don't even know at times, like zero dark 30, three in the morning something. And he's just, he's still working. He's just still going. Okay, we're going to bounce all over the place, but I don't care. I just want to stream of consciousness because I said his name and him in a minute ago.

So Dan, Pat, I'm going to give you, I'm, first of all, this is going to be a humble brag, okay? How could you not? I just sent what you guys told me. you guys told me, send one text. I said, should I go to this? This is one of one. Like, and Jack, that's, I have one big, I want to talk about the fights because as amazing as the entire event was, that final fight between Saperone and Gachi is, somehow

it's the biggest story in my head. Like, it's what I can't stop thinking about. Like, I hung out with so many famous people and did this. I was on the White House law and all these things that you think you'd be thinking about, but that fight is. is dominating my mind. It was insane. There's one side of it that's like,

my rational brain can say, yes, this was historic. This has never been done before. This was the White House. It was the spectacle. The people who were there. But on the other hand, like my, my, my, like, raw, you know, gut is just like, I can't believe I saw that.

What did I just see? He had bones sticking out of his face. Like, they gave him that fourth round, by the way. when the docs were like, they don't want to do this, like, don't let him out. And then the other guy's like, look, we're here. It's the White House. It's Trump. We'll give you one more.

Just see if you can survive this thing. They probably should have called it after three. That last one was a gift. And yeah, he almost died. He almost died in the ring. So you guys were like, Will, just send one text. This is one of one. You got to go.

So I did that. I sent one text. And then it happened. And it was awesome. And I could not, this is the humble back part. I could not have had better seats. I could not. Okay. I was literally on TV all night because I was behind the fighters when they were getting checked in by the medical staff before they went into the into the octagon.

And but when I walked in with my wife to sit down at my seat, I kept walking closer up. And I was like, oh, this is, okay, we're front row. And as I'm walking to my seat, who's behind me? Like who has the worst seat than me? Like I'm talking about directly behind me. It's Shane Gillis. Right? And I'm like, and I said it out loud.

I'm like, oh shit, I got better seats. than Shane Gillis. So this is how good that fight was. So I don't think Shane was real interesting in being my buddy, you know, Fox News guy, if he even knew who I was. I don't care. Shane's hilarious and all this.

So, you know, he was nice enough. I think that I kind of got him in a video and he's like, hey man, don't, no video. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I got you. Don't worry. By the end with that fight, Shane and I were like grabbed each other's arms and talking about who scored that round.

Was that Gaetchi round? or was that a Tupurran round? I mean, it was the whole thing. And should they call it? I don't think they should call it. Everybody got mad when they almost called it in the third jack, and then they let it go for the fourth. I mean, all I know is this,

both of those men are monsters. Just to do the fight for a second. I'd never want to have cross-eyed Justin Gitchie mad at me in any way whatsoever. But take nothing away from Tepern, because I've never seen a human being eat so many punches. honestly, stays standing, much less not knocked out. You know, I mean, I had that seat. When Gachie hit him, I know you see this on TV, but to see him person,

to see someone's head snap back like that and liquids fly off of their head, it is insane. And he stood. He didn't go down. It was, I, my wife was begging for it to stop. It was one of those things where he's just, he's just one of the toughest men on the planet. There's no question. And at some point, though, by.

biology and physics and all the rest of it. It just comes into play. And I mean, you could tell he was just he was wobbly. He was not keeping his guard. He was not keeping his hands up towards the end there. And Gaith you just had control. And the third and fourth, he just had control. And so I think Gaithi actually kind of held back a little bit, you know, maybe hot take there. But I think he actually held back a little bit because he knew that and maybe didn't want to just didn't want to kill him. Didn't want to just like completely put him over. And, you know, know you think about a guy like toporia and you watch like you watched the olivera fight last year i mean he did that was that was one of the most violent things i've ever seen so the guy's capable of extreme amounts of damage he's capable of taking extreme amounts of damage i don't think i don't think he would ever tap out i don't think he would ever unless you called a fight or his own guys called it which was what they did last night um i don't think that he would have gone down and he i mean you're talking about a guy who you know not to take anything away from Toporia that when he comes back, he's still going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I'll put it that way. Oh, 100%. You could see, Jack, I'm a UFC fan. Actually, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me, hot take. It's just came to me. I guarantee he's got to demand a rematch. I guarantee, I'll go with you this. I guarantee he will be champion again.

He's coming back. He's that good. And that's, as I'm not. I can see the art. I can see it. I've been, this is my second event, UFC. I've bought in my lifetime. It's north of a dozen

fights. I mean, I've watched a lot of fights. Like, honestly, I didn't know a lot about Taperio going into this at all. I knew Gaci. But that guy is so skilled. He's like a buzzsaw. Like, when he's hitting,

he's amazing. He just ran into a dude that was meaner last night. And that's a weird thing to say. I mean, that dude, Gachie was just not going to take a loss. I watched he was right in front of me. He had size. And that was, he saw that.

We saw that throughout the evening too. It looked like it would break a rib and make you pee blood for two weeks. And in, and Gichi survived it. Yeah. And you saw a couple of matches where, you know, there were fighters that, where size came into it, where someone had a little bit more reach, someone had a little bit more height, and that ended up playing a lot into it. And look, you know, people, I want to say that they kind of overlooked that a little bit.

You hear more about it in boxing. and I was thinking, especially the second round of that, just that final fight right there, that was the round where it looked like Gaithi was going to lose. That's what made the fight so good because he got his bell wrung in the first round by Toporia. He spent the second round kind of just wobbling around on his feet, not really know what was going to happen. And that's when they went to the mat the first time. That was very furious back and forth on the mat. Gaithi could have lost it in the second round either by submission or by now.

knockout, but it was him surviving that and then doing whatever he did in the corner to, you know, make the butterfly stop dancing. You know, it's like the cartoon, right, where it's like going around your head. And he got back in, he locked in, he came back and won. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation about an incredible night for America and our observation of world cultures with the senior editor of Human Events. Jack Posobic on Will Kane Country. Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox News Wine Shop. dot com with code fn radio 20% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion expires july 31st 2026 must be 21 order to order please drink responsibly welcome back to

country we're still hanging out with senior editor at human events jack poseobic talking about ufc freedom 250 and what we've observed about different cultures from the world cup so i'm gonna this is how good it was i'm gonna go back and watch it uh i mean it was awesome in person now i want to watch it on tv i want to see that fight again uh uh Um, it's pretty his face was pure hamburger meat. Did you get any blood and sweat on you? Pat, it, would be that.

No, no, that would take one hell of a shot. Uh, because even, unless you're sitting where President Trump is, like literally at the, at the chain, I don't think that would happen. Um, here's, here's your trivia. Okay. So I told you I was sitting in front of Shane. Tony Hinchcliff was also right there. I didn't meet him, but just down the way was Nate Bergotsie. I'm going to give you one guess.

And it doesn't include those. It could be broader than this. The funniest person I talked to last night at the entire event. Funniest person. See, I'm going to say, who did you, yeah, who would you talk? I mean, Pete's not that funny. Shane's pretty funny, man. I love tires.

I think, I think Shane's pretty funny. Yeah, it's going on. But I think Shane's hilarious. But I could see him being, especially what you said, I could see him being kind of like, like he switches off in person maybe. No, he made jokes and he was funny. I think he was just, I think maybe, I'm fine being honest. I think his fame has skyrocketed in a pretty short amount of time. He's probably a little guarded.

You've seen that before. And, um... Yeah, no, he's comedy is who he is, though. Like, that's just how he's out. Oh, he's a dude and he's a bro and he's normal. And Jackie, he loved you because he's wearing the Eagles hat and one of the fighters from Philly and he's yelling, go birds. He's yelling go birds to the guy.

Just like all the smartest, funny is best-looking, guys are cowboys. I wanted to bring up a cowboys thing, but just felt out of place. No, the funniest person last night. I'm going to tell you something. It wasn't close. It wasn't close, okay? Even with the comedic, you know, stars I've just laid out to you was Marco Rubio.

Really? The funniest I was around last night was Marco Rubio. Yes. I don't know. He's hilarious. He's a busy guy. I was with Pete and he comes over, and I'm not going to disclose all the conversation, but we're talking about aliens, you know, and this and that.

They were hilarious. And Marco's like, I'll tell you who's really into the alien thing, Stephen Miller, because he wants to know there's aliens so he can get him deported. The guy has got it more than you ever would have known. I know we're all slowly realizing this, but he does have. it the timing more than you ever would have known in 2016 you know whatever it is he's got more of it than we knew back then well i think i think it's 2016 right right and as a guy who was around in 2016 and was like very much not on the little marco train right that it's it what it was is that he

and ted cruz as well like i think they were still operating off of that like old school playbook where you have to be kind of perfect and buttoned up and every every statement has to be and measured and it has to be just right. You can't really relax and just let your true authentic self come out. And that's why Republicans were, you know, getting turned into hamburger meat in every presidential election like Toporia coming out in, you know, 2008 and 2012. And then Trump comes in and he's like, I'm just going to be real, I'm just going to be a dude and run the way I want to run and then wins. And it turns out, oh wow, Americans actually want that.

So then they've kind, you know, obviously things have moved on. he's come into the fold, Marco Moore, in a big way. And I think it's just sort of being around that atmosphere more has just made him be able to come out of that shell and shake off that old, you know, GOP stuff. Let's do that for a minute, Jack, on the political side. The Iranian Ferris wheel keeps turning and it does feel like it's turned in a positive direction. Trust is such a scarce resource. J.D. Vance says that the Iranians digitally signed the agreement with the United States. Csaw, military operations, open up the Strait of Hormuz,

negotiate in the next 60 days, a plan to remove nuclear materials, no nuclear enrichment in the future. Okay, I mean, let's take a moment. I think you take a moment to celebrate the fact that this happened, because even getting this far is a hell of a hard thing to do. But then, honestly, comes the next really hard part, which is, like, do they do anything other than sign this on paper and just go back to their same old crap that they've been doing for multiple presidencies and multiple decades. I don't know. I don't know. I think there's good reason for hope. I think that's a fair thing. Good reason for hope. Look, I saw J.D. Vance this morning,

and he was talking to Trey, my good buddy Trey and your buddy Trey saying that J.D. wants to go over to Geneva later this week and the president of course is in France but he's in you know that part of France is right by Geneva there and Avion and so he might even go himself let he's not going to get on a plane like that after all this if it's not if it's not buttoned up and if it's not done they're not going to put because just talk about it's again he's got potentially a 2028 campaign that he's going to look for and if he wants to associate himself with something he needs that to be a big win not just for right now not for the current moment moment, but also for the future, because if he's out on that 2028 debate stage, he's going to have to defend it.

He's going to have to uphold it. He's going to say this was a good thing. This is why I'm running now to continue the legacy, et cetera, et cetera. So he's got a lot of political capital riding on this. And for him to go himself, I think that speaks to the fact that he does view it as something that's actually a big win, that he can come back to the American people with along with the president, obviously, and say that this is why we did this. This is where we're going to be. going to. This is why it's not like the Obama deal. And also, I would, I would submit why it was also important to not go down that road that so many people wanted of boots on the ground. And that's something that I've talked about for over a year at this point, Charlie Kirk, you know, a year ago when all of this came up, he and I did show after show after show explaining the dangers of a boots on the ground invasion. And, you know, I mentioned I was in that, that interview with Fox, is always a debate and they kept bringing that up well let's say well how is this

different how is this different I said because he didn't put boots on the ground this was an air campaign all right now you know you can quibble about is that a war or not and and but the point is the reason I think from the president's perspective he always meant we're not going to do boots on the ground you do special ops you do some intel stuff you do some bombings you do air campaigns obviously a naval blockade right that is totally different from the type of stuff that we saw before and that's specifically what he can He never said no military, but what he said was no invasions, nation building, forever wars, and that's key. And there were a lot of people who were pushing for that.

I want to see what you think about this, Jack. We do know the polling on this. First of all, if this is over, if this is truly over, that's good for gas prices. It's good for the markets. It's good for the midterms. That's just a fact. Okay. This war does not poll really well. What I'm curious about Jack is how do you feel about potential down the road future military? Not so much how does Jack Posovic feel? How do you think the American people would feel about us doing something, say, in Cuba? And let me add another one. How about us doing something in Mexico? It's funny to mention that. So, okay, here's what I think a lot of people, a lot of commentators get wrong because I've seen a lot of folks, you know,

of the neo-conservative flavor, say, oh, the American people, you know, they're not, they're not as willing to, you know, to fight for their interests anymore. They're not willing to fight for freedoms. Somebody, I forget who it was, but somebody recently said, you know, D-Day, because we just had the anniversary, that, you know, D-Day could never happen today because the American people just don't have that will anymore. And I think that's wrong. I think that's so completely wrong. I think the American people will always have that will, will always have the will to defend America. The disconnect has come because in so many of these things, because of Iraq and because of Afghanistan, has left such a bad taste in everyone's mouths. They kind of associate anything with the Middle East with, hey, that's not in our interests. That's a special interest thing. That's a foreign interest thing. That doesn't affect us.

So when you mentioned Cuba, now we're, Venezuela as well, now we're getting a little closer to home, right? Now we're saying, okay, and there's that cartel strike down, Trendy, Ragua took out the leader, awesome, by the way, over the weekend, or I guess just before the weekend. And now Cuba, that's a little closer to home. That's what 90 miles off of Miami. I served at Guantanamo Bay, so spent, you know, a better part of a year there. And, of course, you can't leave the base. You know, we used to say close, but no cigar. And, you know, I don't know that people want to see a direct military invasion. We, you know, we tried that Bay of Pigs. Obviously, it didn't quite work out so well. But wouldn't it be great if Cuba were turned into a partner where people could go on vacation or go for a resort and actually build it up and have that economic relationship

if the regime were able to be more amenable to that? And you mentioned Mexico, though. And this is where I always say that this is the key that picks the lock of what those guys are talking about. If the president came out today and said, we are going to be launching operations on the Mexican cartels and we are going to create a 10-mile buffer zone on the northern side and southern side of the border, you would have people chomping at the bit to volunteer, to go fight, to set up National Guard units, because people see those cartels as a direct threat to. themselves, to their families, and specifically their children, because we talk about the fentanyl, the drugs that are going on. People see that so much more of a direct threat. You combine that obviously with deportations and everything else. That's something that the American people actually would want. I'm not talking about like a state on state war with Mexico, but direct action against the cartels. Oh yeah, polls would be through the roof. Let's take a quick break,

but continue this conversation about an incredible night for America and our observation. of world cultures with the senior editor of Human Events. Jack Posobic on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with senior editor at human events. Jack Posobic, talking about UFC Freedom 250 and what we've observed about different cultures from the World Cup. I totally agree with you, man.

And the whole thing, it's not complicated. You've talked about it. Charlie talked about it. The president's talked about it. The new right, whatever we want to call it, I don't even care. but it's not an isolationist ideology. And obviously, that's been put to the side with Iran. That's not even part of the conversation anymore.

But the prison was never, it was never a biblical law. It was an analysis through the lens of America first. Is whatever this action we are taking serve the interests of the American people. And Cuba and Mexico are in our hemisphere. They are our neighbors. And the things that they do impact us directly, in easily tangible, in, well, easily envisioned ways and even in tangible ways. And so it's a totally different polling calculus is my projection from something happening in Iran.

You know, Cuba, by the way, Cuba would be easy. Let's be real. It would be easy. It would be, I do think Mexico could be harder, but I feel like I've read a lot of analysis of this. It's not state-on-state, which actually is part of what makes it harder because it then becomes this guerrilla thing that you think about. But these cartels are not the Taliban. They are not Iran. They are self-interested actors, right?

They're not dedicated to the cause. And so it's not the kind of guerrilla thing that lasts forever. Now, I don't know what that means about what an effective strike, for example, on the Sinaloa cartel is or looks like and how deep you have to go and that kind of thing. But I don't think we have to leap directly to, oh my God, it's an insurgency war again. Well, I mean, it already is an insurgency, right? You've got entire areas of Mexico, entire swasa territory, that are already controlled by the cartels. And, you know, everybody wants to talk about your fellow Texan Taylor Sheridan these days. But one driven out of greed. But one driven out of greed and self-interest and not religious fervor. And that's very different. Yeah, no, you're saying that it's it operates in a way where they've become a de facto government in some areas. But it's, it's just a drug network. It's, it's for power. It is for money. That's what it's about. You look at the cartel lords down there. That's what it's all about. So for me, I was just going to make the point that that movie, Sicario, man. Everybody wants to talk about Yellowstone or whatever, but you go back to that Sicario. That was like an unintentional two-hour explainer of what the American people want. It came out right before Trump's 2016 election. I think it's one of the big reasons that he won because people in the midst of all the talk about the war on terror in the Middle East, suddenly along comes.

somebody who's actually talking about things in our hemisphere, on our border that affect us. And it got people asking the question. I was an intelligence service when that took place and when that movie came out. And I remember, you know, going a guy saying, hey, hey, why don't we do stuff like this? You know, why are we so focused on some guy in like a cave in Somalia? And we spend hours upon hours and millions and millions of dollars to take him out when, you know, there's guys right here on the border that are killing Americans. Yeah, yeah, totally agree.

Okay, I'm a sports fan in general. You know what? I don't think there's a sport I don't love, maybe the WNBA. I don't think there's a men's sport that I don't love. Well, that's not a sport. Really? I don't think there's a men's sport that I don't, I wouldn't be interested in. I'm not trying to think.

But never watched it. Could get into it. If I had some connection and had a way into it, I could get into cricket, I bet. I bet I could. The short. version. And they're like a two-hour version and a 12-hour version. I don't have time for a 12-hour version. The one, curling, man. Every

time curling comes on at the Olympics, I'm like, I just, I don't get it. I just don't get it. Oh, I can sit back and let some curling take place. That's like watching Cornhole in the backyard. You know? Or what? Will's doing the airbroom at all. He's got his own courts. I say that because

I have no, personal connections to soccer. Left to right. yelling at the TV. I'm loving the World Cup. The boys and I'll talk about America in a minute. But this is actually a cultural conversation, which is good with you, Jack. I think you have some images, Dan, of this.

I think this is so fascinating to me. So here in Dallas, we had the first games this weekend, and it was Netherlands versus Japan. And I just want to speak about these two cultures for just a moment. First of all, the Netherlands, it was, so impressive here how they turned out. Like there were seas of orange everywhere in this city, right? And they're so passionate and so into it. It was just really cool to see them travel, to see them support. I wasn't there, but in the stadium, you could hear it. And then there's

the Japanese. And I don't know if everyone's seen this story already, but the Japanese, first of all, had a station when you came into the stadium where they handed you a blue bag. And it looks like something they cheered with while they were in the stadium? It wasn't. They used it to cheer. They pick up their own trash in the stadium before they go. They fill the blue bag with trash, not just their own, by the way. Any trash that they see, they pick up the damn stadium. And then there's images of the team itself and what they do with the locker room. And they leave the locker room spotless. Fold the towels in the middle of the room when they're done. And I don't, you know, at this point, it's not a controversial thing to say because it's so blatantly obvious.

But not all cultures are equal, okay? Not all cultures are equal. And to see this, I don't know. If I were Japanese, I would have so much damn pride in this. I would have so much pride in who we are and how we travel and how we behave. And, you know, we can do it on the cultural level, Jack. I don't want to make everything partisan, but I, you know, I love this speech by Admiral William McCraven that he gave. when he had a commencement address at the University of Texas when he said 10 things about being a Navy seal or whatever.

And his first thing was make your bed. Because there is something about the self-respect and the little tasks every day. It's the broken windows theory and policing. Don't let the small crimes go. They turn into big crimes. And, you know, when Trump has a rally on the mall and everybody picks up the trash versus the complete garbage scene that was left by some of these, all of these left, all of these lefty protests that take place. I do think this says something deep about your culture.

No, it does. And so, you know, when I was in the Navy, traveled to Japan number of times. I was a seven fleet sailor most of the time I was out after, you know, other than Gitmo. And so, you know, when you go to Japan, one of the first things you find out is that they don't have trash cans all over the place the way that, you know, most places do. You'd think like, oh, I got some trash. Let me just find the closest trash can. And I'm like, uh, there is no trash can. And because that's a huge part of Japanese culture, they don't want trash, not to be

anywhere around seen. They don't even want it in trash cans on the street. So that idea of having a little plastic bag isn't just something they did at the stadium. That's something they do back at home everywhere. It's just understood that you take your trash with you and you police yourself. And if you don't do that, like if you were to leave trash out or outside anywhere, That's a huge blemish against honor. That's a huge shame mark in Asian cultures.

Of course, they have this concept of face, which I think people have heard, and it is about your self pride, your national pride. But it goes down all the way to that level. And so, you know, we would think about, oh, yeah, well, of course, I have national pride, but you don't even realize the levels that they take it to in Japan. That's what it comes down to. So it's like you're disgracing your family. It's like you're disgracing your line.

I mean, people would, you know, call your, you know, your work probably call it, tell you about that. Hey, this guy was leaving trash on the, you know, on the subway. And then you compare that to like Azora Mandani, who's there on the subway, like, eating with his hands, this, like, smelly food, which obviously is just not, you know, is an antisocial behavior because you don't want to do something that bothers other people on the subway, right? It's the same reason we don't smoke on the subway anymore. Things like that is, you know, it's pro-social behavior versus antisocial behavior. And in Japan, they're extremely pro-social in terms of that. It's an honor-based culture. It is incredibly well.

It is definitely connected. You probably know more about this than I do, Jack. Japan is an honor-based culture, and we're not an honor-based culture in America. And there are other cultures around the world. Honestly, a lot of Muslim cultures are honor-based cultures. And there's pros and cons to that, I believe. Like, you know, what is the – antithesis of an honor-based culture, which is what we are like a, I don't know, is it a freedom-based culture or an independence-based culture? I'm not sure, but it has its pros and it's con. I always think we're like an achievement-based culture. It's like who can get the most, who can acquire the most, who can achieve the most. So it's like, you know, achievement at any, at any means, almost.

But the Japanese culture has its problems. So it's not like, I mean, we know the marriage rates, the reproduction rates in Japan. are down. The depression and suicide rates are pretty damn high. The economy's been in a malaise for going on like 40 years in Japan. So I'm not sure how all that comes together, but this part of their culture is beyond impressive. No, you're exactly right. And it's something where it's like we can learn from each other, right? In Japanese history in the 1860s, they had this whole thing called the Meiji Restoration, where they got their butts spanked by the British Empire. And they said, oh my gosh, you know, we need to figure out what the rest of the world is doing because they've, you know, lapped us, their leaps and bounds ahead of us. So they went around and sent diplomats

and researchers over to the UK and to America to find out, which was, you know, eventually the Industrial Revolution and then came back and applied best practices. So I think it is important to learn from one another. It said, you know what? Maybe we can learn something about a culture that's about picking up their trash and policing one another when we don't do that, right? Because actually you know what I would even say what that we are these days we're a tolerance culture where a cut word or culture where oh well don't say that because that would be intolerant or oh don't you know don't judge that person that don't judge their life choices because that would be intolerant that might

hurt somebody's feelings and we get you know kids get taught this at the very earliest age and the problem with that is as we all know that when you go when you overdose on tolerance pills that suddenly you can't call out things that just obviously bad and obviously wrong and obviously hurtful for society when you've got people who you know who are like surgeons that don't know how to do surgery or you know how to leg up on their mcats or you know someone who's driving a train that doesn't have the you know the right credentials to be there but oh we fit some kind of DEI bucket you know where I'm going with all this and so there are things that we could learn from each other that hey you know do you want to you know

go out of the way to hurt somebody's feelings now obviously right you want to be respectful You want to be polite, but at the same time, you don't want to do things that obviously hurt your own society. I wish we'd adopt that in New York City. Real bad. Yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah. It's unbelievable. Walking through the city every day.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to make a joke about Jack City, but, you know, the truth is you guys have laughed. The way. Go for it. No, it's 100%. Well, the truth is the way Nick's fans. The way the Knicks fans behaved after winning the championship, I'm like, you know, it's embarrassing what has happened in New York since they won the championship.

I mean, in Philadelphia, they eat horse poop, but who gets hurt beyond that? Just yourself? You're jumping Spurs fans. You're doing stuff like that. That is a mark. That's just, okay, first of all, that's fiber, that's nutrients, all right? It's Maha. It's smart.

Smart? Yeah. They have to grease the light poles in Philly. So people don't climb them. Actually, unfortunately, they just take the grease as a challenge. And then people climb them and they slip and it's bad. So real quick, back to the one of one that was last night. You know, the inside, and Dan, I'd be curious your perspective because you're outside the ideological bubble.

You're outside of, you're outside the physical bubble. It was such an awesome celebration of America. I mean, there was Medal of Honor recipients walking every single fighter out. There was first responders accompanying them walking every single fighter out, watching each fighter walk through the White House. It was, you know, the Blue Angels flying overhead, bombers flying over. It was incredible from start to finish in a patriotic way. And by the way, it wasn't even that much about President Trump. Like, I thought there may be some, I thought we'd sing happy birthday at one point, you know.

But the, you know, the left's reaction to this that it was an embarrassment, you felt zero of that, you know, anywhere in or around that event last night. I saw a lot of it, but old lefty, me probably would have been like, is this really necessary? Do we need to do this? But from the outside, it looked awesome. I mean, it was patriotic. It felt good. I mean, I loved watching it, so everyone else can go bang their heads on a wall. One of one.

What an incredible night. I wish I'd have seen you there last night, Jack, but it was a lot of fun. Hey, hey. I'll be there at 251. We'll sit next to each other. You'll beware at 251. Oh, UFC.

Oh, yeah. Do it next year? Let's do it. You think this will ever happen again? Will this ever happen again? Hey, don't let your memes be dreams. Come on, Mr. President. This one went so well.

Do it again. 251. Why not? All right. We'll sit next to each other. Sobuk from human events. Always good to hang out, Jack. Thanks for being with us today. Thanks, brother. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. All right. Hey, who helps America go further, fly higher dream even bigger? It's people. People do.

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So, you know, I didn't ask Shane for a picture. I didn't ask Tony for a picture. What world are we talking? Like what? Is that too obvious? Sports. Sports. Sports.

Sports. Ooh. Yeah. It would have been there. Well, Stephen A. Smith wasn't there. Is Troy A.com in there? You think Stephen A would be my, I'm so excited I think you're taking with Stephen A.

I love Stephen A, but come on. Just trying to think, let's see. The role of sports. I don't know. All right, well, it wasn't, and this is huge, Michael Irvin, who is awesome. Every time I see him, but I met Mike several times now. He's just the nicest guy You know

For his level of fame He doesn't big league At all I was trying to find that picture with Mike Last night Here we go There's Michael Irvin last night It was fun to hang out with him for a little bit

I thought he had a shirt off I was like, whoa, that's a... I know He does, he does It's just a tan shirt or a brown shirt He wasn't sure I was at the White House. That's a bold move, buddy.

I'm not confident even that you guys will know who this is, to be honest. Okay, so I'll go ahead and put the picture up and see if you can guess who this is. I had to go out of my way. It wasn't sitting next to me. Yes. Slatan. You like Zlatan that much? Interesting.

Do I like Zlatan that much? Much. Well, Patrick, do you know who this is? No idea. No idea. Really? No idea. It's Slotan. It's Slotan Ibrahimovich. Okay. He, one of the reasons I'm sure, well, I don't know. No idea still. You keep saying, I don't, he's doing World Cup coverage. Soccer? It could be basketball. Yeah. I have no idea. Yeah.

It's soccer. He's doing World Cup coverage for Fox. So if you watch pre-games, he's there. with Alexei Lalis and Thierry-on-R-R-Ree. But, you know, my sons are into soccer. And as I've said, I have one son that is a striker, which is the goal scoring forward up front, and he's tall. Well, Zlatan, that's what position he played, and he's tall. And he was awesome.

If you look up Zlatan bicycle kick, you're going to see maybe the most incredible goal that you've ever seen. From downtown, too. I've seen that before. Yeah. From like, not midfield, but like, but, but, let's say a third of the field out, right? The goal he comes way out to try to get it. And he has no other option.

So he bicycles it from way out and it goes in. And so, but Zlaton Patrick is, Dan, let's see if we can describe this right. The most arrogant. Self-aware. Self-aware. That's the key I'm trying to get to. Athlete that you've ever, ever, ever seen. Refers to himself as a God.

I don't know. It refers to himself in third person. It's like kind of a bit. Almost always. Yeah, it's a little bit of a twinkle in his eye, but you know that he also believes it, but he also says it knowing that you don't believe it. You know what I mean? Like it's a combination of all.

these things that kind of make him funny but turns off a lot of people. Like, there's no comp. I don't know what the comp is in American sports to Slot-Time. With the talent, there's been plenty of people with that ego, but not as much talent. Ricky. Harrison? The weird thing about it, Dion is the closest. I think you're right.

Maybe Dion is the closest, because there are guys who are that arrogant and braggie. that aren't quite that good and everybody knows it. I'll give you one, Chad Ocho Cinco. Yeah. Right? Chad was amazing. Yes, these guys are amazing. But the way they talk about themselves, you would think Jerry Rice pales in comparison

to Chad Ocho Cinco, right? This is more like, honestly, it's more like Kobe talking even more so about himself. Do you know what I mean? Because Laton's that good. He's not the greatest of all time. but he is maybe a Top 10 Maybe he's top 10

What are you saying Scott? You don't think so? You don't think he's good? Here we go See, he's divisive He never scored a single World Cup goal Wow

Isn't that bicycle kick in the World Cup? No It's not in the World Cup It was a national team He says he never scored a World Cup goal So that does hurt That's correct Fact check correct

soccer's been around for so long that it's hard to put him in the top 10 because, I mean, you can go back 100 years. But it's, I think the... Was he like that in person? Oh, I mean, he was Zlatan. I was like, Zlatan, can I get a pick? He's like, yes.

You know, I mean, we didn't engage a lot. I mean, yes, I knew he would have no idea who I am, right? Like, you think he watches... He was like, you are American, Russ? Yes? Yeah. And, by the way, he speaks like a bad guy in a Bond movie. Oh, yeah.

With the ponytail. I might be short now, but. Makes sense. Yeah, that was who I was the most excited about. Meanwhile, on Friday night, the U.S. men's national team. Careful. That's all right. I got nothing to hide.

My whole photo roll is up on screen. The U.S. men's national team won on Friday night. absolutely dominated Paraguay. Are you already bored, Patrick? Why'd you put your head down? What are you doing? I'm just, yeah, I'm asleep, falling asleep. Dude, you've got to stop.

You've got to stop. That was amazing on Friday night. 16 million people watched. 16 million people watched. And it, I mean, incredible. We've never seen the American team look that good, ever. And if that is, and I'm going to be responsible, here. If that is the way we're capable of playing, then our ceiling is much higher than we thought.

That doesn't mean win the World Cup. It doesn't mean that. But it means quarterfinals, maybe, maybe semifinals. You'd have to put that performance together consistently. And Paraguay is not bad. Paraguay beat Argentina, beat Brazil in the lead up to the World Cup. They played terribly. I will say that. Paraguay played terrible. But the coach is saying the U.S. was complicated. We couldn't figure it out. So Pachitino, our coach, has put these guys together in a way that it was just a constant assault. That's what's about.

I mean, we could have scored, it felt like we could have scored seven goals. Four to one, the United States dominated. Polisic. Paraguay. We've got Australia next. What's that? Is Polisic okay? I mean, he came out, got kicked real hard.

I think he's right. That's a big question. our best player, Christian Pulisic, didn't play the second half. Hopefully, it's sort of precautionary. That would change our, that would change things. If he's not capable of playing, then the ceiling comes back down.

He's that important to the team. It's been fun, though, man. The whole tournament. I've been watching so much. Oh, it was so fun on Friday night. Yeah. So quit being a stick in the mud. Seriously, Patrick, I'm talking to you as a representative

for I know a segment of our audience. And Fox. You cannot. You are giving. You are giving up real sports joy. You really are. You could be experiencing real sports joy. And that's five goals.

I know that the American complaint of soccer is often not enough scoring. Well, you know, five goals in a game is pretty good action. That's what you got on Friday night. It's not always going to be like that. It's a hockey score. But I'm not going to have those dirty commies tell me, tell me, what I can and can't watch, okay? Just like they want us to be on the metric system.

I'm going to embrace Imperial system. I'm going to embrace the sports. They're embracing Fahrenheit over North America. This is such a dumb argument. I'm so tired of this BS. You're just being obstinate to be obstinate. Nobody's making you watch soccer. The question is whether or not you choose to be a part of something

that's objectively awesome. And, you know, the other thing I don't understand is for me, And I'm not, when you come around and you will, like if we may never, we may never. But if we ever get to a point where we are legit force in world soccer, then it's going to be like so much American pride. And we took the thing that everybody, and by the way, everybody on the globe, every single other country, this is number one. This is their number one sport and it's not close. The world's Super Bowl. If we can go into that and make it ours, you wouldn't have fun.

with that? You wouldn't feel American pride with that? You wouldn't like have Schadenfreude for their, for their, they'd be so pissed off, man. You could hate on Europe for a real reason. The Brits. Yeah. I mean, it's the most we took yours and made it ours and we call it soccer. Like,

come on, you can't get in on that? It's most American thing I ever heard. I just, I just, you know, I was thinking about like an immigration platform and I have two thoughts on this. I would deport anyone who

roots against America in the World Cup and then I would deport everyone who's watching soccer in the first place because I don't know I just I'm just over I'm over it God you're the shining light of our show just so much fun you're not over it

because you never even tried it I see the commercials frickin millennial I'm over it speaking of commercials I'm over it as though it's an argument it's such a millennial thing to say You want, are you going to do this? I'll do this into your weak-ass generation.

I'm over it. Oh, I guess there's nothing to talk about now. He's over it. Don't ask me about it ever again. I'm over it. Don't even bring it up. I've already told you. I sign up for your first deportation policy.

Anybody that roots against America deported. At least you have to take a test. But then I'm deporting you because I'm not, I'm, I want non-malkintents. What's the opposite of a malcontents? What's the opposite of a malcontent? We're going to need some real vision, and we're going to need non-black pillars to move this thing forward. People like me who built this country. This black pill, this black pill world.

Just a content. No, black pillars did, no, black pillars did not build this country. You would have been there at the constitutional convention. You would have been at the constitutional convention going, Ben, forget it. It's not worth it. Look at these guys. Ben would have been coming to me for advice. Yeah, you would have.

I don't know about this, guys. I don't know about this. You wouldn't have been at the Constitutional Convention. You would have been out in the streets going, can you believe these idiots? I think they're going to organize a country. Trolls. Over in the Williscer really quickly,

Tiki Cam says the president gave himself one heck of a birthday while freedom. Q9L says he gave many servicemen and women an amazing experience. Oh, that was awesome. The whole state, it wasn't a bad seat in the house. Fly over. What was it? 4,000? Four thousand people there. It was kind of a weird sporting experience. I said this, I think before I came on air. It's a top fiver for me. Top fiver. That's big.

It's all predicated upon your proximity to the experience. This is what I know is somebody who's taking in a lot of sporting events. There's three things that you could put in that I think make something special. Honestly, your seats. I'm going to be real about that. Okay. So your proximity to the action, number one. Number two, who you're with, your family, your kids, your friends, that's huge as well. And number three, just the events on the field. What happens? How big is the event, right?

So for me, it's, I got to watch Texas OU from the sidelines one year while ESPN. That's a top fiver. I got to have not floor seats, but second row seats to MAV, Celtics, NBA finals, that's up there. WrestleMania with my family is up there. I'll tell anybody, WrestleMania is incredible. Incredible. Philadelphia.

Yeah, in Philadelphia. I saw the W.W.E. guys last night. And they're like, when are you coming back? I'm like, when you invite me? And they're like, we're in Dubai next year. We got to bring your producers. That time. I don't think I'm going to Dubai.

Yeah, and then maybe watching the Cowboys win one of those Super Bowls. But, oh, last night is so unique because there's only 4,000 people. So during the fight, you know, it's actually kind of quiet at times. It wasn't during the main event when Gaecchi to Perio were fighting. But earlier in the fights, you can hear one servicemen, any one serviceman yell out. And they did. We love you, President Trump. We love you, Melania.

And everybody, all 4,000 people. people can hear this. It's kind of intimate and quiet, and then anybody's voice can be heard if they yell it loud enough. That's fine. And they had the, it was like the Navy guys were here, as far as like the Army guys were here,

Marines were here. It was really, really cool. Suzanne Nico, was there any average people on the White House lawn around the octagon or were they all put on the back lot? Well, there was a viewing thing, I guess what she's calling the back lot. But yeah, I think there was,

well, certainly when comes to serve i mean they're average people i don't know what that means you know um the the the regular american the the voter well there was well it wasn't brass in the seats i'll tell you that when it comes to the service members it wasn't brass you know it was yeah um jd look at big jeb okay she says jd vans going to shred on the view jd vans is about to walk into these studios, not in Dallas but in New York. Secret Service is telling Dan to wrap wrap up Wilcane Country.

Secret Service is done with this episode. And then Mike Silva says, I hope they start doing this every 4th of July. Well, it's not 4th July, but I get what you're saying. Yeah, that would be awesome. Is Secret Service outside the door, Dan? Yeah, Victor. Is that why you're playing the music?

Secret Service, really? Yeah. They're ending Wilcane Country on Secret Service. Yeah. They're giving me... I'm dragging this out. No, tell the Vice President, hold on. I got an episode to do.

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