Will Cain Country - Ilhan Omar RAIDED! Is Shane Gillis the Latest Victim of Outrage Culture? (ft. Cody Tucker & David Marcus)

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

Why did federal agents just raid Rep. Ilhan Omar’s home? The answer might be stranger than you think. FOX News columnist David Marcus and host of “Rewind and Repeat,’ Cody Tucker join the show to break down the story, and see how it plays into the wider debate over immigration in the U.S. Will and the guys also tackle the left's latest meltdown over Shane Gillis’ SNL gym joke, exposing the real reason why Hollywood is drawing parallels between comedy monologues and sexual assault. Plus, the guys analyze Alex Cooper’s claim that the Cornell fraternity allegations are the spark for "Me Too 2.0," the fascinating history behind everyday phrases in Cody’s new book, and Kelly Clarkson’s viral feud with a snobby Brooklyn art gallery.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (@willcainshow), Instagram (@willcainshow), TikTok (@willcainshow), and Facebook (@WillCainNews⁠) Follow Will on X: @WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Fox News columnist David Marcus and the author of, of, and now you know, mind-blowing stories from history and pop culture. And as I understand it, a brand-new book coming out tomorrow as well. Here to tell us about it is Cody Tucker. What's up, boys? Hey, how's going on? Cody, brand-new book coming out tomorrow. Tell us the title. Tell us the premise.

That's it. Where did that come from? Genius. The hidden history of everyday words and phrases. Just kind of breaking down some, you know, popular words and phrases, where they came from, some of the stories that people may or may not know. Yeah. What I like about what you do,

both on your Instagram, where you have one million followers on Instagram. And what I like about your general approach is something that when I do this, I want you to know I'm not copying it any more than you're copying it from the legendary and great Paul Harvey. And that is you take something small that we all take for granted and dig in deeper on what is the actual story. or in the words of Paul Harvey, the rest of the story. And so whether or not that's movies or pop culture or words and phrases were surrounded by history. I actually at one time wanted to create an app.

Like when I was in my entrepreneurial, I'm going to be a billionaire face. I wanted an app. And then this may exist. And if it doesn't, then somebody should go do it right now. When I'm driving around, you know how both Cody and I are from the state of Texas. There's little road signs and state historical markers, sometimes just randomly out of middle of nowhere on the side of the road. And I follow a guy on Instagram that goes around and restores them. And when he's in the process of restoring them, you can read them and see what happened in that location.

And I always wanted to be like, you know, because you never know. Like three miles off over there, this farm to market highway. Well, that's the battle of X between the Comanches and the Texas Rangers. I always want to know sort of where I am and what happened right here. And look, we live in Texas where our history is approximately, you know, 200 years old. David, I mean, you're on the East Coast. At any given time, you're close to something really fascinating, like close to an amazing story that somebody would make a television series about.

You know, especially when you're walking around New York, walking through Hell's Kitchen. Oh, well, this is where the Westies decapitated and dismembered, this member of the Irish Mafia. You're always like, in New York, my hundred yards from some amazing story that happened in history. But it's everywhere, man. I just think there should be an app that says this is where you are. This is what happened. Here's the rest of the story. I like the idea of, yeah, I will say in New York, there's so much churn that unless you're literally like down at Francis Tavern,

you're physically where the event happened, but it looks nothing like. Now, in Virginia, in West Virginia, the reason I like your app, is every minor highway that you drive in West Virginia or Virginia, just zoom, zoom, zoom, there's these white historical markers, to your point, because Lee crossed the Rappahonic there, like this happened there. But it's frustrating because you obviously can't pull your car over on the highway and be like, I'm going to look.

I think when the signs went up, maybe it was like a lazier highway and you could just stop and go, but now you'd cause car accidents. if you did that. So I like the idea of your app that you can then go back and... Yeah, you're driving along and your app goes ding and the rest of the story of what happened right here. That's a great idea. And in the modern day of AI, you could actually create, not unlike what you do, Cody, you could create a 60-second video. Like, this happened right here. And, you know, with AI characters actually reenacting it in some way.

Or you click deeper to actually do what human beings used to do, which is read. But, I mean, I'm fascinated by the rest of the story, Cody. No, I think that's an amazing idea for an app. I mean, I've always thought that historical markers should have QR codes on them. And you should be able to just scan the QR code and at least have something come up to give you more information about it. Where like for the markers where you can actually get to them. But yes, something that is connected to your GPS that tells you, hey, you're about to pass this place. Here's what happened there.

Because, yeah, Texas, I mean, there's some in my, you know, little town. I have no idea why this thing is, what's historical about this. I've passed it a million times growing up, and I still don't know what it is. So I would like to, you know, have some of that information. Give us an example, would you, Cody, because I think words and phrases are also fascinating. I think they always come up randomly in your life, and I think we've said things on this show, and I'm always like, where did that come from? So would you just give us like, give us three?

I know how you do things on your Instagram, again, where you have a million followers. Like, you give us a 15-22nd little answer often on the history or the background. Give me three, would you? Phrases that we take for granted and it's etymology. Okay. So one is during the Napoleonic Wars, Captain Horatio Nelson, obviously, you know, legendary general or captain during the wars, he was, you know, being told, hey, do not launch this attack. There's no way we're winning.

We're vastly outnumbered. this naval attack, and they would communicate with flags, like flag signals, so that you could see from a distance. Because obviously, you're looking hundreds and hundreds of yards away. And he, in a previous battle, had lost an eye, so wore an eye patch. And in an act of defiance, held the, you know, held the, oh my God, why I'm going on the, yeah, held the spyglass up to the eyepatched eye and said, Oh, yeah, no, they'd never said anything. I guess we can go ahead and launch the attack.

Ultimately was successful, and this is where the phrase to turn a blind eye came from. Ah. So, Captain Horatian. Interesting. Nice. Yeah. There's a lot from Greek mythology, which Greek mythology is filled with words and phrases that we use every day. Like, yeah, morphine comes from the god Morpheus, who is the god of dreams.

But one is that the god. Apollo would fly on a chariot being driven by swans. Swans are notoriously pretty silent birds. And Socrates wrote that whenever a swan is about to die, they sing this beautiful song because they know that they're about to be rejoined with their owner, Apollo, who's the god of music. And so that's why someone's final performance is called a swan song. song.

Fascinary. Ah. Yeah. Never thought about it. I find it interesting that these things last through time, you know? Thousands of years. That's crazy. I mean, this was written by Socrates.

Right. But we still use it now. What, 300 BCE, something like that? It's incredible anthropology. Yeah. And then a third one, the author, Stephen Crane, wrote in a book before he wrote a, you know, Red Betts of Courage, wrote a book about a

a soldier who was having to fight in Russia, obviously in the frigid weather. And at the time, a kind of draft dodging tactic, if you will, was the soldiers would complain that they were developing frostbite so that they wouldn't have to keep fighting. So they were too scared. They said, oh, my foot is started to develop. Yeah, started to develop frostbite. So I can't fight anymore. And the phrase that he wrote in the book was that they were getting cold.

feet and that's where we get the phrase. That's so incredible. You're right. The things that we repeat without even understanding why we're repeating them is so fascinating. And to your point, Dan, how they stand the test of time? I did happen to, when I took a couple of minutes to scroll this morning, I saw a video about Seinfeld, and I guess there's a movement, a meme, that Seinfeld is actually not funny and maybe the current generation doesn't see the humor in Seinfeld. But this guy went on to talk about, I see you shaking your head. Do you not think it's funny, Cody?

Not one day. You don't like Seinfeld? Oh, wow. No, not a Seinfeld fan at all. Oh, my God. Never got it. Dave, you're my age. Come on.

Seinfeld was not just funny, but groundbreakingly funny. Right, David? I mean, certain. I mean, yeah. I mean, there will never be a TV finale that gets as many eyeballs as the finale of Seinfeld got. That will never happen again. in human history. In fact, I don't think there will ever be a show again

from which we have so many quick phrases like, soup not, you know, no soup for you, you know, whatever it is, because no TV show anymore can have that kind of saturation into our society. So clearly people at the time found it very funny. Now, I will say there are some jokes on Seinfeld that don't make sense in the age of the cell phone. In fact, there are entire episodes of Seinfeld.

that don't make sense in the age of the cell phone because it's comedy of errors having to do with like where is somebody and you can't track them down and you know um but no i mean clearly signfeld's a comic genius who launched the careers of many others yeah so let me let me explain um why in a way you might not find signfield funny cody and this is what this guy had to say when something is so groundbreaking that it becomes the norm it stops getting credit over time for how groundbreaking that it actually was. So comedy in my mind, and David's my age, and he can validate or reject to how I characterize this, comedy before Seinfeld was very punchliney. Comedy, especially on television. It was badaum-ching.

You know, it was who wrote the funny joke. Not nuanced. And Seinfeld was in the way of Jerry Seinfeld, observational and situational humor, which is supposed to be what a sitcom is all about. but he was doing things that the constant feeling in Seinfeld was, oh my God, I've been in that situation. Oh my God, my buddies and I have all joked about this. Oh, my God, I can't believe they're talking about this, like,

deep cut of social interactions on television, whatever it may be. And everything it felt like before that, although we liked it and we watched it, even Cheers, Cosby Show, it was much more punchliney. And Seinfeld, and this is why it didn't break through in the first season. and it was so groundbreaking that everything after it, like my favorite comedy is the Big Lobowski. The Big Lobowski is totally lacking in punchlines. It doesn't have something that you'd write down and another comedian could repeat in any funny way.

It's all about the situation and that character's line and that character's relationship to the other characters and it's personality-based. And I love that kind of humor, much, much more than punchline. So what about the office? What came after Seinfeld was we saw that proliferate. And this guy on Instagram was saying, for example, none of us on this program have the ability to appreciate how groundbreaking Citizen Kane was. We might be able to watch Citizen Kane and go, it's a good movie, but we can never rewind the clock and sit in the seats that those people sat in where their minds were blown how many things were groundbreaking in Citizen Kane. And so his argument was the reason that the young people don't find Seinfeld funny is because they can't put themselves back in the seat of seeing that kind of humor for the first time. I was curious, Cody, though, the office for you.

And how old are you? So did you find the office funny? So, yeah, so the office to me is my Seinfeld. Okay. So that's where my comedy goes to is like I don't want to laugh track. I don't want anything to seem fake. Like, I already know it's fake because it's a TV show. So I want everything to seem as realistic as possible,

which some of this could be just my own personal, you know, opinion, not necessarily my generation, but I do think my age has a lot to do with it. I think, I think of it. I think of it. Or curb your enthusiasm. That's not a traditional sitcom. That's like a cable news.

We're going to curse. But do you find curb, funny, Cody? Yes, I found curb hilarious. See, that's kind of the same situational humor, though, which is funny. Yeah, that's Seinfeld without the laugh track, without the live and studio audience, you know, without the television standards. Curb lets you feel much more uncomfortable. Like, I enjoy curb, but I can't watch two episodes in a row.

You know what I mean? I'm just like, I don't want to feel the Larry David level of stressed out over some innocuous talk. that I made that somebody thinks is racist, right? I can do one episode of that, but then I got to move on or like my brain starts going crazy. Right. And I start feeling like that. Is Larry Sanders.

The Larry Sanders show, I think is the greatest comedy ever made. And it's kind of the first version of that, the office, you know, sort of the mockumentary comedy. So, but that's,

that's what I gravitate towards more, I would say. Gary Sandling show is great. So a lot of people. There's a Gary Shandling show joke that I always love. He was flying from. he's on the plane, he's flying from L.A. to Las Vegas, and they start in about the water landing, and he turns,

and he goes, what, are we going the long way? It's a great joke. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with David Marks and Cody Tucker when we come back on Will King Country. Visit BetMGMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. BetMDM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly, 19 plus to wager, Ontario only.

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Subscribe and listen now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Fox News Radio on demand on the Fox News app. Download the app and just click listen. When you swipe left, you can listen to your favorite Fox News talk shows live. Swipe right for the latest Fox News Radio newscasts on demand. Fox News radio on the Fox News app. Download it today. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Fox News.com's David Marcus and the author of a brand new book. Where did that come from? Cody Tucker. So am I my brother's keeper? A lot of people don't realize this. They think that came from the Bible and it was something that was uttered by Kane about Abel. And we all repeat that today. I don't know if this made Cody's book, but am I your brother's keeper? Actually is what was said by Elon Omar when her house was raided by the feds as of this morning. And that is when we begin the news today. Am I my brother's wife? Yeah. So as of this morning, what the news is is the feds have rated Elon Omar's Washington, D.C. home as a continuation of an investigation into her immigration. This one is actually not about whether or not she married her brother, which there are very credible sources and stories about that particular part of her life.

But this is actually dating back to her father, I believe, when she was young and was immigration papers filled out appropriately. David, weaponized the OJ going after a political opponent or somebody who was suss, in the words of a kid, always has been suss and needs to have everything looked into because she's suss, Ilan Omar. Yeah, I mean, I think it's the latter. I think if this were completely out of the blue, I think if you didn't have the other stuff, if you didn't have, you know, the winery that apparently makes no wine, if you didn't have, you know, all these, all this wealth that she's managed to accumulate, if you didn't have her as sort of like the central figure of this Somali community that has been at this point convicted of so much fraud and accused of so much more,

then I think you might be able to point at this and say this is just bullying. But I think there's so much. And look, Democrats could make this argument about Biden's DOJ going after Trump, too. And they did. But, yeah, I think that there's so much smoke here that I can't call this just bullying. We'll have to see what they find, you know. Yeah, I mean, Cody, I think Elon Omar deserves investigation. I personally think anybody, any elected official, that talks about representing

members of a foreign country deserves an investigation standing on that alone. And I mean that. So when she says, we're here to help the people of Somalia, I'm like, open the investigation. And when Claire Valdez running for Congress in New York says, Viva La Mexico, Viva La Revolucion, I think that she should be immediately and permanently taken off the ballot. I don't, for that record, by the way, I'm an equal opportunity offender. I do not believe in dual citizenship. I do not think any elected official should be able to maintain dual citizenship. I don't care if that's Mexico. I don't care that's Somalia. I don't care if that's Israel. If you're elected to represent the people of the United States of America, you solely and exclusively represent the people of the

United States of America. So go after, Elon, Cody. Yeah, I'm with you. I do think people should be able to have dual citizenship. They're just standard citizens. But to be an elected official, you were not elected by that other nation. You were elected by the people of this one area. you know, depending on what office you're elected to. And those are the people that you represent. And your allegiance should be to that community, that area, and to the people of that area, not to any other nation that you may have, you know, an affiliation with. Nothing wrong with being from another place. That's great, you know.

That's kind of the American dream, so to speak. But once you're here and elected, well, this is where all of your energy should be going towards. So, investigate. I had an interesting conversation with a guy in Springfield last week. I wrote a column about it. This is a guy who he owns like half of downtown Springfield. He's been on the Chamber of Commerce forever, Springfield, Ohio, with the whole sort of like Haitian situation. And, you know, we were talking about that.

And he is definitely one. He's a conservative. He's a Republican, a conservative. But he's definitely more in favor of, oh, no, the Haitians are bringing money into the community sort of like. the Chamber of Commerce argument. And when I said to him, well, you know, like, both with the Somali and the Haitian communities, there's this concern about remittances. There's this concern that this money is leaving the country, right? And he said, well, you know, my father's father was from Greece, and he used to send money back to his father in the old world. And I said, okay, but was he

sending money that he earned or was he sending money that he was getting from a welfare check. And it kind of stunned him for a second. He's like, well, my father never took a welfare check. And I said, well, that's kind of a big difference. And so there is a long history of communities being here and helping the countries from which they came. But that meant sending money back to your family. That didn't mean tens of millions of dollars going through the Minneapolis airport that were coming from the taxpayers. And there's a lot of anger about that stuff right now. Yeah. So that's interesting on the remittances, and you make an important distinction between those gaining welfare and those making a living.

But I think that also has another valid entry into the debate, and that is the Chamber of Commerce, and David's written about this at Fox News.com, the Chamber of Commerce Republican against, we'll call it the cultural conservative Republican, which David Wrights can only be negotiated by President Trump. That debate, at least in part, relies on the economic benefit of immigration. So, you know, there is a Republican mindset that says, whether or not we're talking about Central Americans, Mexicans, or whoever and wherever they come from, that, and we saw this, I believe it was by Chuck Schumer last week or Bernie Sanders saying, you know, we're not keeping up birth rates. We're not producing enough Americans. And so immigration is an

economic necessity, a tool to bring into people to do jobs. But that being said, if you're weighing the economic benefit of migration, you do need to at least discount. I didn't say to a sum total of zero. But if it's a mathematical equation, remittances are a subtraction on that economic gain. So if that person is doing that job and not re-spending that money in the United States of America, but instead, Western telegramming it to Mexico, that's not to the benefit of the American economy. And so when we weigh all this out, remittances have an economic negative effect as well. I'm not saying it's a net negative. I don't know because it's a mathematical thing, but that has to be factored in. It's not just, look at the boon to our economy. Yeah, I think that an economy is only

stable if the money rotates in a cycle of earning and spending. We all earn, we all spend, we all earn, we all spend within this area. If you have a leak where some of that money is leaving to other countries, it will never be back in that cycle. So you're constantly going to have more money leaving than what's coming in. I think there should be strong limits on how much money should be able to be sent. This is not a leak. This is a tsunami. I mean, this is a lot. Well, right, right.

In fact, David, I don't have it in front of me because the conversation, as it always does, follows natural curiosity. But I believe, Dan, you could probably look this up quickly. If you look at some of the economies of like Guatemala, Honduras, some of those countries, I believe a significant, significant percentage of their, and Somalia, of their GDP is, American economic remittances. Yeah. Yeah. And that's on top of whatever foreign aid prior to shutting down USAID, we were like funneling into these places.

So I mean, yeah, it's just, it's an enormous amount of money. And okay, you want to say like that's the price of being the world's only superpower? Sure. You can make that argument. But to the point that both you guys are making, I think this is just so much money now. It's something's good. We have to look at it. We have to be paying attention.

this. So I have the numbers here. Go ahead, Dan. Approximately 19% to 20% of the Guatemala's gross domestic product coming from migrants living in the United States. So 20%. That's amazing. 20%. That's a lot. One in five dollars.

Yeah. Jeez. That's crazy. Look up Somalia, Dan. I'll be curious what that is. 45% One more note on this while Dan's looking that up. 19 to 24.

Talking about the similar, okay, one in four to one and five dollars in Somalia coming from the U.S. I think, I don't think it's a dishonest argument. There might be an economic need for migration. There are jobs that need to be done. And this is not, I think everybody, you get almost 100% approval on sort of seasonal workers, you know, people that come in for some amount of time and then leave because they're doing jobs where there's bursts in need. obviously the one everybody talks about is planning and picking. Because that's not a year-round job.

That is where it's an uneven work cycle. So there are times when you need a bunch of people and you might not have them domestically. And by the way, even though it's technically a low-skilled job, you would have people who are doing that on a more regular basis from other countries. So whether or not that's peanuts or whatever it may be. But I mean, if, and David is a naysayer on this, if the projections of AI on the workforce are, true and there are people talking about it automating some of the more low-skilled jobs and high-skilled.

I don't know why we're limited to low-skilled. And on the plus side, there's people talking about moving to a three-day work week because of this. That doesn't suggest a huge demand for labor that we need to start importing people to do that labor. That suggests we're going to enter an economic cycle the opposite. Like what we're actually importing is what we're seeing people to be on welfare. Yeah, and you also have this sort of like the Andrew Yang big tech fantasy guys who want everyone on UBI, universal basic income. So it's like if the idea that like Musk and all these people have is that AI is going to do so much that we're just going to be handing money out to people, that has to impact how we think about immigration. Like to your point, like why would we do that?

Like it doesn't make any sense. So as you say, like I don't like I'll believe it when I see it as far as all that stuff goes. But yeah, you have to take it into account. Yeah, I don't trust projections one bit like when people are projecting X amount of jobs will leave the, you know, will be done by AI within the next 10 years. I don't buy it for a second until it actually happens. I'm with you. Okay. Yeah, I think they always, well, when anytime someone's trying to predict the future, they always overestimate by an insane. amount. I mean, whether it's in pop culture, history, you know, whatever.

Especially when they have IPOs. Yeah. But I mean, you don't go and say, well, we're not sure. Can I broaden that? Yeah. Especially when they have a vested interest, not just an IPO. And so I think, Cody,

to your point on all projections, first of all, this is an innocent. This isn't a calculated. Human beings always think the future is a bigger version of the present. So whatever course we're and whatever we have today, it's just more in the future. And so they just, you know, doomsdayers and utopians do the same thing.

You know, that's what Thomas Malthus was. Thomas Malthus was a doomsdayer who just projected the future to look like a version of the present, but bigger. And he was wrong about everything. He said we wouldn't have enough food to support the population that we had, much less expand the population. He couldn't have been more wrong. And it's just on and on and on and on and on.

I was watching, and we'll get to this in a moment, I definitely needed a football break by Sunday. And so I was like, I'm looking for something new to watch. And I've gotten a little lazy because there's actually a lot of stuff to watch that look decent. That's the problem. They look decent. Like on Netflix, whatever, and then the trailer's pretty good. They look decent. And I've gotten fatigued on the shopping.

I've noticed, and we all do this, I've looked up and I've been like, you've been. shopping for 30 minutes. 40 months. You know what I mean? You've been on Netflix, Prime, Paramount. You've just been shopping. That's all you've been doing. So I didn't want to overthink this one.

So I'll tell you guys what I clicked on. I clicked on Netflix. It's called Below. I just started it. Last night. Josh Hartnett. Yeah, I think I watched two episodes last night. And here's what sucked me in.

I'm going to tell you what sucked me in. I do like things that take me to places I've never been. or haven't thought about. And I've never really thought about Newfoundland other than that's where planes landed on 9-11. And I was like, I know this is going to send me down the Wikipedia rabbit hole of learning about Newfoundland a little bit. And so I'm like, I'm going to do this because I actually want to. This is going to be fun.

I'm going to learn. And it's, of course, weirder. And it's science fiction-y and maybe a little horror. I don't know. I'm kind of getting there. I haven't watched enough to tell you. But in that show, Cody, it turned me off because I did read a quick review. said it has political and climate change elements.

And I almost didn't watch because of the reference to climate change. Yeah. But one of the characters is a scientist, right? And climate change comes up and she says, you know, we're losing these populations of these fish and it's worse than you thought. And she's like, you always said that, that the climate change models were, weren't, were too conservative. They weren't catastrophic enough. And she's like, yep, I was right. That's the exact opposite of reality.

Every climate change model ever produced has been wildly, wildly, wildly overstated. Wildly wrong. All right, Al Gore. Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, I know. Because it's so much easier to sell something if people feel like their lives depend on it. If it's just kind of like, eh, it might be all right.

Yeah, I don't think anything too crazy is going to happen. No one's going to care. Nobody's going to go watch Al Gore's documentary, if that's the message. But if it's, oh, my God, everyone's going to die, then, oh, people are going to the theater. And he's going to win an Oscar or whatever. Or Michael Moore, you know. Yeah, or Michael Moore, yeah. Like, everyone is going to get cancer and die because, you know, the health care system sucks.

And but if you just, you know, make it seem realistic, then, you know, realistic is boring to most people. Yeah. You need sensationalism. My great-grandfather was a new feat, he will. He was like, he started his life as a fisherman off the coast. Anufi. That's so cool. Did he have the, like, accent?

He had an Irish rogue, because, like, his family. It was, like, one little stop. He was a hundred. He was a hundred people. But, yeah. He had some stories, man. They'd go out on the boats and they'd be out there, like, you know, I guess catching blues or whatever they were going for.

But apparently, the people from his village saved Titanic victims. Huh. Really? The boats came out from. Yeah, because they could see the lights go down, and I guess calls came out, and then the boats went out, and they were able to save whoever they were.

He was too young. He was a kid, I think, but, like, yeah. Well, they referenced Titanic in the show several times, like it happened just, you know, within their points of reference. They saw the lights go down. I mean, yeah, as a kid, he saw the ship go down. It was that close. And then the men went out in the boats and rescued Kate Winslet.

Who was it? Yeah, yeah, Kate Winslow. But there's a, there's a, there's a, David, there's a fascinating historical element that I've already learned from the first two episodes about the resettlement efforts in Newfoundland where they had a government program to pay people to leave the small villages to move into bigger population centers, which is really interesting to learn about. And it made me think of you, Dave, really, like, I love these stories, these little, it's not unlike where we started this, these little historical roadside markers. I love these little remnants of civilization. And I hate to call them remnants because it's like you're chalking them up to being artifacts of. the past, but you know how I've talked about us all the time. I'm like in a world full of monoculture

and everything, you know, we're all living the same, eating the same, listening to the same stuff, acting the same. I love that we're not in certain pockets. You know, in your case, David, of America. And I just want to see those places still, you know. I want to watch something about those places. I want to go to those places. I want to read about those places. I'm just so happy those places still exist. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with David Marks and Cody Tucker when we come back on Will King Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick.

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Cody Tucker. You know that show, I have a quick, you know that show on History Channel, Curse of Oak Island? Yes. And they're like, they've been looking for this treasure. I like that show. I like everything on History Channel. Like when I'm staying in hotels and like I'm done for the night and I'm just like turning out the lights. Like unless there's an important sports game on, I'm going History Channel to like get myself to sleep.

But my thing on Curseville, Oak Island is they're like 12 seasons in. And they are consistently using this equipment that has to cost like tens of millions of dollars. Like how big does this treasure have to be at this point for them to have even paid? aid for what they've done so far. It's about the journey, David. I guess because they're so optimistic about it. But I've looked it up. It's been like 15 years. Yeah.

Do they make enough money off the show? I don't understand. This doesn't make any sense to me. And I'm dubious that we're ever finding. I don't want to be the pessimistic guy, but like I'm starting to get dubious that there's any. There ain't no treasure on that odd one. They call it the money pit. No. Yeah.

If you're going to do this, by the way, if you're treasure hunting, Don't, has the Caribbean been picked clean? Because that's where you go. You're looking for the Spanish galleons. That's what you're looking for. All the ships that went down, that's where you've got to be treasure, honey. Oh, the Mediterranean. It's probably who knows what kind of stuff is there from like the Greeks and the

penitians, you know, all those people. That's exactly where I'd be going. I'm definitely not going to Oak Island for 15 years. All right. I feel like if I don't acknowledge my weekend, then it's ignoring the elephant in the room. You can't talk trash on Friday. You can't hype up the crowd and then disappear on Monday. So it was a big weekend here in Dallas and every way of magical.

I got to have my son home, all his pledge class brothers, and meet some of their parents. And big party on Friday, big party on Saturday. Of course, for Texas OU, the Red River Riders. rivalry, as it should be called the Red River Shootout, before we all went politically correct. I can't remember when this happened, but it's now the Red River rivalry. And so, in absolutely horrifically embarrassing eye-opening performance by the Texas Longhorns. I don't know if you're a fan, Cody. I don't know who you root for.

It could be any number. It could be Thags. It could be Red Raiders. You too. You could be the Baylor Bears. All right, your Longhorn, too. I mean, I do like the Baylor Bears a little bit to Granddad went to Baylor, but U-T, for By the way, I didn't shoot that out of nowhere.

A lot of East Texas people seem to be Baylor people. A lot of Longview and Tyler and Center people somehow end up at Baylor. Yeah. A bunch of Baptists out there in the big thicket and make their way to the... All that, pretty much all Baptists. Four years of not dancing at Baylor. So, such a little kid joke when I was a little kid every day. Patrick guy, Dan and I just like, we have no idea.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, it's very tasty. I'll give you another one. Here's an old man regional joke. My dad's and all their friends, you say, you know why they can't have sex standing up at Baylor? It's too much like dancing. Can't dance. The Baptist is Baylor, you know, you're not allowed to dance.

No. It's like footloose. No, we all, we, it's very much like footloose. We all gravitate to wacko, to wacko Texas, you know, at some point in our lives. It's like a pilgrimage. So yeah. But, you know, not only was Arch Manning really, really bad, really bad. But I think that for a lot of Texas fans, you come out of this and you go,

I think we might have the wrong coach. And that's a really big statement to make for a guy who's built this program, multiple national semifinals, right? Multiple college football playoff appearances. But I just don't understand how you can't see. scheme up something better than a not even a one-yard pass, just a pass out to the flat over and over and over again for what amounts to a one-yard loss or a two-yard gain in that range. And I just don't understand. It's a really bad football team.

In going into the weekend, I was really upset because people were saying, well, they're number one, but they don't look that good. I'm like, if they beat Ohio State, you know, you've got to honor the resume. But they've been proven correct. They don't look good. And I don't know. I have no idea. I think they could be good. I think that's it, but it's all theoretical. Art's flashes where he looks great and then he just looks so off. You know what somebody said, Dan? Arch is good for two drives a game. And if you look at the first five games of season, that's right.

And those two drives will get you 14 points. You may end up with another field goal or defensive thing that results in about 20 points for the game. But he's good for two drives a game. In this game, he was good for two throws, two long bombs that resulted in touchdown. Interception. But outside of those, I mean, two terrible interceptions. Too terrible. I mean, one of them with 20 seconds left.

It's like how the Cowboys, what was that? The Cowboys lost to the Ravens. It's like you don't lose a game with that time left. The only way to lose a game with that time left is severe idiocy. I was so ready to come in here and gloat today. And then that awful thing happened in London. Or I was just going to be guns blazing, man. And then I almost, I was almost relieved that I was, because I like,

you. And I wasn't looking forward to having to, you know, destroy you. But I was going to. And then Nick Siriani was Nick Siriani and my opportunity to do so was lost. But I did. I watched that Texas game here in Grand Rapids with a couple of Michigan fans. And I will tell you that with about seven minutes left, I think it was tied. And the one guy was like, he grabbed his phone and he's like, I'm betting on Oklahoma right now. And I was like, why? And he's like, Arch Manning's going to choke. It's what Arch Manning does.

And it's what happened. So, I mean, I don't know. I didn't know that was the book on him. I don't know if you think that's the book on him. But that's what this guy said. And it's exactly what happened. Then he made $129 bucks or whatever, you know. I think he is.

I'll give you my book on him. Go ahead, Cody. No, I think he's an absolute choker. I mean, he's basically a less talented Josh Allen. of like, I'll get you there, but I will not follow through. And that's, I don't know. I mean, I hate to say that because I would love for UT to be amazing. But I think you've got to do something about Arch Manning, and I think he got

fire the coach at this point. It's just like, that's ridiculous. I'm a little more hesitant because he's still a kid and he's still developing. And so I'm like, well, so. I was actually optimistic all the way through, David. So the only way Oklahoma had only scored two touchdowns, and here's how they had scored them. One was a block punt, and one was a drive that was assisted by two very, very suspicious calls from the ref, a roughing the passer call and a passer interference.

And that's the only way they'd moved. Oklahoma had not moved. And you know what? Honestly, they never really did arched through that pick that allowed them to only have to go 30 yards or whatever it was for the first. field goal. So, Arch, last year, looked like a guy in the first half of season that needed to be benched, quite honestly. And then the second half of season looked like a guy that I thought deserved to be the

number one pick in the draft. I said it. I thought he read the play. He led the receiver. He looked like a pro quarterback. Well, this year, he looks like the guy from the first half of the season, who, I mean, I'm not going to lie. I had a buddy that's like, it's time to put in KJ. Lacey.

And that's insane. I thought, I responded. I said, I've thought the same thing. Like, it's time to put in the backup. The kid's got to have his ups and downs, but at this point, you know, like, we were all clamoring for him over Quinn Ewers. Quinn was better. That's just not an opinion.

That's black and white. Quinn was better and Quinn got a ton of hate. But I'm putting this on Sark, too, to your point, Cody. Like, it's your job to develop him. It's your job to draw plays that he can execute. It's your job to do this. And you're not the offensive genius that you think you are. if you can't. That's the bottom line.

And if you're going to tell me he's not good enough to execute, then it needs to be a different quarterback. It's one of the two. That's all there is to it. And so, congratulations to OU man. I was at a watch. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Dan. No, just to put a little color on the, I was at the Texas State Fair that morning into

the afternoon right before the game. A lot of trash talking from U.T fans to OU fans and not OU fans back to U.T. fans. They were keeping their mouth shut. and they shut some mouths after so it was pretty interesting to see it was fun I'm glad you went to the state fair on Saturday morning that means you got to see it in all its glory for what that game is

I've never seen anything like that no it's pretty cool right I've never experienced anything like that my life the state fair was awesome being from Connecticut we don't have huge things like that and even just the love for college football or any sport for that matter was just something new I've never really experienced in the state fair is amazing you guys were like the state fair on Friday

you were liking it before Texas you and Vince August and that's when it's just a state fair really honestly. Saturday it's not a state fair it is a carnival that has turned into a heated you know football

inside and outside that stadium it's crimson and burn orange just colliding I sent my 15 year old son he went on his own I was like dude let me just talk to you for a minute like this is ripe for trouble like ripe for fights right, just please.

Get in and out of there, enjoy the game. Don't be a jackass. You're probably at the height of your jackassery at 15. I'm like, please, please, don't, don't. He's like, I can't trash talk. I was like, no. Because you think you're invincible. Please don't trash talk.

And you're not. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was pretty cordial with each other, though, for the most part, you know. It was just all John. Were they good? Oh, yeah. You don't do sweet players.

I was with my other son. No. In Connecticut instead, they have like cocaine fuel dinner parties in Westport. That's right. Or just take mushrooms and walk around. I was with my older son in his pledge class. And I'm honest,

I've never seen anything like this. I've been to funerals that were happier at the end of that game. No one talked? Because I cannot explain to. you the level of depression. Like, and it's not about football. Their lives get immeasurably harder with a Texas loss.

Immeasurably. Like, why? While you're pledging, you're responsible for the wins and losses as a pledge. Oh, no. And so, yeah, oh, yeah. It's like you lost it. That's crazy. They're like, it was going to be bad anyway, but now it's real bad.

Good luck, buddy. They have to go back to Austin. Good luck. Yeah. All right. I want to now go to this, to pop culture. Shane Gillis was the host of Saturday Night Live on Saturday night. And he did a bit about gyms and getting to the gym. And he said this about the way women are dressing at the gym. Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long.

I didn't know women just dress like whores now. Look, I'm sorry. There's no other way to describe. Have you seen it? I've seen it. The shorts? Have you seen the shorts? Those neon, they're like the only, they're like artificial bait colored. The wrinkles, the wrinkles go like around the cheeks

and all combine at the butthole. And don't look, you're not allowed to look. For real, don't look, because they are filming. I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now. All right, so that's the joke. It's an interesting environment he chose to tell a joke. First of all, is it a good joke? Well, let me just start with this.

A good joke, everyone would agree with this, I think, is grounded in the truth. It's got to have an element of truth for it to be a funny joke. And this is grounded in the truth. Does anyone disagree? Have you been to the gym? Anyone? Have you seen? You don't have to have gone to the gym.

All you have to have done has been on TikTok. And you can see what a gym is like. And so, first of all, this is grounded in the truth. I don't go to the gym. I find the gym, I find like going to the gym like unmanly. So like I don't do that. Same. That's why that's the reason I don't go.

Definitely. Yeah. No other reason. So I don't have any first had experience at the gym because I don't go to the gym. But yes, I'm given to understand that women who go to the gym often are not wearing, you know, parkas. So yeah, I don't know what the, like that clip. didn't have a laugh. I saw a clip of it where he did get laughs in the room. And that's really my test. Like my test isn't whether it's grounded in the truth because there's plenty of stuff

that's grounded in the truth that's not funny. I mean, you know, the Holocaust is true. It's not funny. But you have to get the laugh, right? And he did get the laugh. And that's always been my defense of Chappelle. It's like, if you get a laugh in that room, that means that you've triggered something that people were already thinking. And reluctant laughs, though. There's you could tell people were like, can I laugh at this? Yeah, they were. Uh-huh, 100%. Yeah.

It doesn't matter. If you get the laugh, that defends the joke. Like, right there. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't get the laugh. My argument isn't that everything that is true is funny, but that everything that is funny is grounded in the truth.

And so he did that in a very, in a very, um, I think you're right to. And I, what I would describe as a hostile environment for that type of humor. Like, doing that at a Netflix, special is one thing. Doing that there is another thing. Now, trigger the outrage. Okay, let's play Dan Levy, who's on a show called, which I've never watched, don't know anything about Schitt's Creek. And he's Eugene Levy's son. And I recognized him from that. He looks like his dad a little bit, like a feminine version of his dad. And this is what he said about Shane Gillis.

Women wearing shorts to the gym does not make them horrors. It makes the men calling them horrors misogynists. There's a difference there. By the way, I've seen more men's nipples at the gym than I've ever seen women showing their bodies off. But I'm speechless that something like that can, exist on live national television. And to be perfectly honest, more men need to be standing up in opposition to it because

it's complacency that has created the environment with which women are sexually assaulted, and it's a conversation. Ah. Uh, that particular affectation, that particular affectation, where it's like, I'm really confused that I even have to say this because men, Literally have to stand up. Dude, it makes my skin crawl. It's just like, you have to shut up now, or I have to turn off.

I almost turn the blog off. Like, I can't. It's so awful. I totally agree with that affectation. Let's describe it. Is it smugness? Condescension. Yeah.

It's all of it. It's like how preposterous is it that I'm, yeah, like you said, that I'm even having to save it. Like, yeah, and like, like, Like, I'm brave and enlightened, but how preposterous is it that I'm braved and enlightened? And I have to tell you that you're not. But also, to be fair, old Shane, he didn't say they were whores. He just said they dressed like it. I mean, last year for Halloween, I dressed like Willie Wonka.

Didn't he not actually okay chocolate back. Everybody is so bad at reading comprehension. Good job, Cody. That's right. Failed Dan. Failed Dan Levy. You failed reading comprehension. Let's go back to similes and analogies and metaphors.

I dress like a pothead on a daily basis. If I smoke weed, I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. So it's a little bit different than being that thing. Just look like a pot head. Yeah, I just look like a pot head. I just look like one. To kind of entrap people and then report them to the police. So do women at the gym?

No, I just, but it is true. You know, I mean, you go to the gym and it's like, God, dang. It's crazy. You know, I wasn't expecting this. but you know bravo i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it dress however you want to dress but also you can't really be like too upset if people are like looking and the filming of it too is why filming is weird filming in the gym should be illegal yeah and then they're like why are you looking at me and they catch you on the video then they docks you online and it's this whole thing

people a lot of the times people go to peacock more than to actually work out men and women which is a big problem men and women yeah that's not uh that's a cross the board thing of people just go in there to be at the gym. It's not even about like actually, you know, doing anything. Let's take a quick break, but continue this with David Marks and Cody Tucker when we come back on Will King Country. Visit BetMGM Casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick.

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And Dan Levy gives it away there at the end of the video. Okay. This is tied to the Cornell 7 conversation. That's what this is. If that were not in the news cycle, I do not think Shane Gillis's joke would be in the news cycle. They are directly tied to one another. And, you know, Dan Levy is essentially casting his own character into the heroic arc of the Cornell 7 story. That's what he's doing.

And he's using Shane Gillis as his proxy, as his straw man, to get into the heroic character of the Cornell 7 story. And just and even more oddly, I'm going to give you another example. Alex Cooper, formerly a barstool, of Call Her Daddy, one of this most famous or most successful podcast out there, which let's now explain exactly what Call Her Daddy is. It is hustler in audio form, or at least was at one time. It is sex talk. To be blunt, literally, how to give a blowjob, how many guys you can sleep within one night. These are the things that are talked about. This is what she talks about or did because I think she's pivoted into becoming more mainstream since she got big.

Yeah. Like interviewing Kamala Harris. Howard Stern. Is this clip from her, her? Go ahead, Dan. Yeah, it's for the Me Too.2.0 comment. Yeah. So she has what a, who is this person?

Why is this person an expert? She's a Cornell feminist professor. Yeah. Okay. On call her daddy now. Yes. Was she at the party or she wasn't at the party? I think she missed that one.

She was waiting now. We don't know. We don't know, though. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Here is the latest version of Call Her Daddy. I'm curious if you think that we could be witnessing the beginning of another Me Too movement.

I do think that. It feels like this really incredible momentum. that, you know, thanks to those brilliant student journalists, Serise and Sophia have really started something that feels like another powerful way in which women are coming together and recognizing their ability to protest unjust treatment. So I do think we're seeing that. Is she Australian or is that a speech impediment?

I couldn't tell. That I don't know. I wondered the same thing, Cody. What's that accent? Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Not an Australian. It sounded like someone who grew up in Australia, but has been here for a long time.

Mel Gibson. Yeah, yeah. Well, not Mel Gibson, like, but a girl. No, I know. Melanie Gibson. She, she, she loves the student journalists. Do we know her pronouns? No, good point.

Good point. I already did it. See? Australian. The student journalists involved in this Cornell story have been some of the worst exhibits of journalism that you could possibly imagine. Michael Tracy, who's a guy that is of some controversy on the internet, he showed up to one of their meetings. He accused him this in his troop. They have literally copied and pasted this story under the banner of journalism from the plaintiff's civil filing. The plaintiff's one-sided claim in a civil filing has driven the fact. Those are taken as fact.

And of course, every single day we've gotten more facts about this story, and every single day it's been worse for the accuser every single day. And here's the trick now. The accuser, if the totality of the facts are true now, meaning if I take into account the plaintiff's claim, if I take into account of equal value, the defendant's claims, which are several of those out now, but most importantly, if I take into account the texts in the wake of the incident, um, the girl was behaving like Alice Cooper told her to behave. The girl was doing, living out a call her daddy podcast. And the fact that she did and regretted it, and that's again what the totality of evidence suggests, she got heat from her sorority sisters, she got heat from her reputation on

campus, had it was full of regret for living as Alex Cooper preached her to live, then claims rape. And now here's Alex Cooper to what? Play both sides of the coin. You can be all of the above. And you cannot. You cannot. And many people have said, you want to find a villain? in this story, your villain is Alex Cooper. I agree with you, Will. And I would say this. There's been a spate of articles now about how fathers should be talking to their sons about this, where the angle seems to be, this is all the fault of the man, and this is all the fault.

And I will say this, and I have a 16-year-old, and you have a son in college. I do think that there's a conversation that fathers need to have with their sons, but I think it's about being careful because you're going to get no benefit of the doubt. Right. You know what I mean? Like it almost like the way black families talk about the conversation with police, where if you get pulled over, you need to be like extra careful. If you're at that frat house and your spiky sense is going off at all, even though, I mean, look, listen, man, people had orgies in the 90s.

People had orgies in the 60s. Hell, people had orgies in 350 BCD, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Socrates was... None of this is due. But you do have to tell your sons who are gone off to college. Like, you're guilty until proven innocent. Absolutely. That is... 100%.

Yeah. But they want it that way. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing I think there should be... I mean, that is where a little bit of the onus is on the fellas. And not in like an actual legal sense or anything, but you just got to be careful. You got to just not do it. Even if it's like, you know, seems perfectly fine.

you got to just go, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to be screwed if I do this. Someone's got a camera. Someone's got, you know, it's not. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I'm not saying it's right that it is that way, but you have to kind of take away, you know, the, the dreams, you know, or whatever. You have to step yourself into reality and say, hey, the reality situation is if this girl is not okay with this, you know, later on, then I'm screwed. Like, it does not matter what the situation was at the time. And that's the hard part, Cody.

And to your point, David, I have had that conversation. Because the line is it's not about whether or not you're right or wrong. That's not what it's about. It's whether or not you could be accused. And unfortunately, how do you make that calculus? That's not limited to what the details of the Cornell situation were. That could be any date. That could be any relationship.

Any relationship. How do you absolve yourself from ever getting accused? And the answer to that is you really can't. But it's Russia. roulette. And it's like it's always got to be said, there are bad dudes out there. The question is, how do you protect good dudes from, from, it's why our justice system was built a certain way, because an accusation isn't good enough. It's just, but it is in this one crime. It is in this one crime to destroy you. Yeah, and even if, you know, legally, all the guys are, you know,

everything's cleared, everything's good. I mean, the damage has been done socially. regardless. And that's even, or I would say equal problem, is that we allow, you know, these, it to be done socially, which,

which, you know, it can be just as damaging. So even if you are like, hey, you know, all the proof is, you know,

blah, blah, and I'm good, and I'm going to walk away from this clean, as I should. I'm not going to walk away from it clean as far as,

you know, looking for a job or anything like that. So, I mean, I'm going to be, spread like wildfire online. That's what it is. And there should be massive reperfew

repercussions for the accusations, for the person accusing someone for something, which there isn't. I mean, for the most part, I guess what will they do when they find out? If you were really trying, if you were trying to fashion true justice, that's probably the only way you could do it, Cody. You'd have to say any false accusation carries with it a huge penalty, a huge penalty is some way. Equal penalty. Totally. Equal penalty than what the person would have gotten if it was true. And see how that, see how that goes.

See how many accusations come, you know, after that. Like you better hope that you can prove this. But they are saying that women feel like they can't come out and say these things because of those reasons. You know, they want the conversation to be the open for women when these things do happen to feel comfortable enough to talk to someone and they don't right now. Well, I would agree that people in the past, there's definitely a lot of examples of people not being taken seriously whenever something really did happen to it. Right. So I can understand of like, well, why even report it when nothing's going to happen? Sure. And that, you know, there should have been ramifications for that.

Like you should have whatever you're, you know, accusing someone of be taken seriously, just have it go through the actual legal process. You could set up a system for that. I mean, you could set up a system on campus where women or men, for that matter, could raise these allegations under a seal. And there would be some, now, I don't trust, I wouldn't necessarily trust the colleges, whatever committee they put in front of this to be fair. But if everybody was acting in good faith, you could have that kind of situation like a sealed indictment where like this doesn't come out unless we know for sure.

But look, it's, it's, I mean, it's tricky, man. Like, I don't know, man. I don't envy the kids in the dating scene today at all, at all. Because you have to do what, you have to do what Cody said. It's not in that moment is everything on the up and up. Yeah, of course you have to have consent. that's one step. Is consent here?

Has it been proven? And by the way, again, once again, the evidence in this situation does point to absolutely. But the calculation should have been, will there be regret afterwards? Right. And that's, how do you know? How do you know? Or anger or resentment. And look, and I will say, no, but I mean, I remember being that age.

And I do think I was never a prolific dater. I mean, I was married by the time I was 22. But like, I do recall a situation. where you could think to yourself as a result of inebriation or a result of different factors. Like, we could probably do this. And I'm within the rules of consent. But I'm also, I also have this weird feeling that like she might not be thrilled tomorrow morning. And I think if you do sense that as a man, you have to say, okay, then we're not doing it this time.

Then we're going to wait until. I agree. And those are real situations, you know, that you have to navigate. Yeah, that was kind of always been my go-to. It was like, if we're inebriated, we're just not doing nothing. Like, we're just going to, you know, have a nice knot and call it, call it a night. Most people drink to feel loose to do that. You know what I mean?

Well, and that's the problem, too, is like, well, how do I judge how drunk? I mean, you know, how do I judge intoxication levels and all that kind of thing? Because if we are meeting for drinks, well, surely we're going to have some alcohol in our system. and then that becomes this line of like well how you know and so i think it's best to just not do anything i mean which is sucks because you know that's you know the part of the dating experience but you know got to kind of be safe out there the end result of this is the way we were 50 years ago preaching abstention and females are always accompanied by males never alone with a male unless you know you're in you're in um adult supervision and company uh

It's like we're going to rewind to 1888. That's what we're going to be. The Moors and standards of date. Okay, really quickly, before we go, you guys saw the story out of Brooklyn with Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Clarkson went to a Brooklyn store, says she was treated like pretty woman, condescended to, couldn't be bought, couldn't sell to. And so she's six millions, millions on this Brooklyn store. Okay. First victim, the Brooklyn store.

Well, first, I guess the victim is Kelly Clarkson because she's been treated like Julia. Roberts and Pretty Woman. Then the Brooklyn store is like Kelly came in, tried to buy a piece that we don't sell, tried to money whippus, we don't do it. Kelly's the bad guy. She came in, not like Julie Roberts and Pretty Woman. She came in like Gordon Gecko. I want to buy you out of everything and we wouldn't sell it. And then Kelly comes back and goes, you're not only mean, you're a liar. In fact, the thing I tried to buy, I had a price tag on it of $15,000. I offered to pay it. Then you told me it's one of a kind. We're not selling it. We'll find you something comparable. And now the millions are on the Brooklyn store, mad at her.

Who's the bad guy? The store or Kelly Clarkson? Cody Tucker. I feel like Kelly Clarkson's kind of full of it on this one. I feel like she tried to go in there and buy something that wasn't for sale. Do you know who I am? You know, Reese, all a Reese Witherspoon kind of situation. And, you know, I think she's sicked a bunch of middle-aged women on her. But, you know, there's no wrath like the wrath of a middle-aged white woman. So, yeah, I just, you know, I'm with the store until proven other ones. We have video of the better, by the way. Huh?

All right. This is the piece, David. Peter Berg. You know, factor in. This is the priceless piece that was tagged at $15,000. Oh, so she's an idiot, too. Hold on, no. Listen, there's a, there's a, there's a, I understand this now.

The reason. Let me describe this, Dave. David, this is a crank wheel on a wall with a little bird above it. And as you crank it, it makes tweeting sounds out of the bird up above. Go ahead, David Marcus. The only reason that anyone ever walks into a Brooklyn art store that sells $15,000 animatronic birds is to be treated in a condescending manner. That is, you go there for that.

Yeah, that's part of the experience. If you're not treated in a condescending matter, don't buy anything because it's worthless. Like, that's how you know. Like, you know the scene in Beverly Hills Cop when he goes into the art gallery? It's like the famous team with Bronson Pinchot. And he's put up like, you know, that's why you go to the art gallery. You don't go to the art gallery to be handed at PBR. So, no, I have no sympathy here.

Like, you knew what you were walking into. I'm kind of on Kelly Clarkson's side, boys. I feel like if you put a price tag on it, then it should be able to be bought. What was the point in the price tag? I'm kind of changing my tune after seeing it actually, real time. Because the post from the business said that they allow people to come in and play with things for hours on end. There's no way that's true. There is no way a place selling that piece of crap for 15 grand is letting people come in and play with toys for hours on end.

They are definitely jumping on them the second they pick something up. So, no, I think Kelly Clarkson is also. And she also has something going for her. She has managed to become a massive celebrity while retaining a little bit of authenticity. And her niceness seems real. It is by all counts. Now she is an excellent actress or it's real, Dan. And so I'm like, my choice is, my choice is Kelly Clarkson, who seems real or this Brooklyn art gallery, I think I'm with Kelly.

They're the A-hole. For sure. Yeah. I'm switched team Kelly. Yeah. Yep, team Kelly. Yeah. But the pretty woman thing is funny.

Team Kelly. All right, check David Marks his new column out at Fox News.com. And he goes to Springfield, Ohio. And talks about the Chamber of Commerce businesses who want to see a little more migration or abrasive immigration from the Haitians. And check Cody Tucker's new book out. Right there. Hold it up once again, Cody.

Congrats, man. Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate it. What did that come from? Cody Tucker on Amazon tomorrow. Appreciate the time you guys gave us today. Thanks for hanging out.

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