Will Cain Country - Inside China's "American Mao" (ft. Asra Nomani)

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

In this Friday edition of ‘Will Cain Country,’ Will is joined once again by Senior Editor of Investigations at FOX News Digital Asra Nomani to continue her breakdown of Neville Roy Singham: China's "American Mao".Plus, Will and The Crew react to comments from you, ‘The Willitia,’ in 'Will Call' on everything from how to get a girlfriend to how to cope with a dysfunctional government, before diving into some of the most outlandish headlines of the past week.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It is Will Cain Country. Normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel and on Facebook. But you can always hang out with this by following this to Spotify or on Apple. All week, we have been diving deep into what seems like an organic protest movement on the left. Whether or not it's ICE, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, defending Nicholas Maduro, arguing against the war in Iran. It's the same placards, the same signs, the same font, and the same money, the same organization behind the left. And it all ties back to one man, Neville Roy Singer, an American citizen living in China.

Today we have Azar Namani with us to continue her five-part deep dive investigation. Plus, 10-4-Patt, two a days, and I will work ourselves through some of the news of the week on this episode of Will Cain Country. What's up, guys? What's up? You're going to split time between here in New York? Is that the goal? I'm not going to split time. No, why would I split time between here and New York?

Yeah. Every other week in New York. All right, so Dallas to New York on Tuesday couldn't have gone better. I have this argument with Ellie all the time. Dallas-Fort Worth Airport, I think, is awesome. It's okay. I have never encountered. Everybody says that.

Maybe I'm a homer on this. but I've never encountered a security line that's really more than a couple of minutes. I fly through security at Dallas Fort Worth. Now, it's huge and sprawling and all that. And there's a problem if they say you want to change terminals and you've got to get on a train and all that stuff. But the only problem I have with Dallas Fort Worth is actually leaving the airport. When you get off, your plane, you go to the gate. You have to walk.

Like, where's the exit from this airport? That's the only bad thing. My point is, flew through security. no delays and I'm flying what was it 24 or 48 hours after the plane crash at LaGuardia

48? So when I landed in New York it was Sunday night when I landed in New York I saw the plane still propped up on its tail on the runway But yet I had no delays It's kind of freaky to see it really is Yeah

Yeah It's a little bit like COVID where you go through the world and we live in this world that we accept and think has a certain level of sanity to it and a certain level of security to it. And it just takes one little thing to realize it's all a veneer. It's a fingernail deep. You scratch the surface for a moment. All of a sudden, everybody's looking at you because you didn't wipe down your groceries or don't come near me. You know, this patina of civilization that we all live within is so fragile. And I've heard guys like Rob O'Neill, famous lead, Sealed Team 6, killed Osama bin Laden, says, like, you're 24

hours away from, what did he say to be one time of a baseball game? I was at a Yankee game with Rob and he goes, I think he said we're 24 hours away from people eating each other. I was like, dude, we're not 24 hours from that. Maybe in your world. But he's like one E. 72. One EMP. It could be 72, Patrick. Like one EMP kill the electricity. How long until we're savages again? And it's, and after COVID, my belief is it ain't as long as you want to believe. Like in your head, you're probably thinking a couple of years, right?

Maybe six months. It's not. But like what would the kids do without the internet? I don't know where their minds would go. If they realized they couldn't like look at phones anymore, I feel like they would go crazy first. Well, that's, that's going to happen. That's the impact of the first two hours. hours. But the clean water and food in the next 48 hours, survival skills. That's it, that's

going to be a thing. But my point is when you land at an airport and you see a crashed airplane like that right there, it just all of a sudden kind of cuts past the fingernail into the quick. And you're like, yeah, man, this is all we just kind of like, yeah, planes are supposed to just land and take off safely, you know, and all that stuff. It wasn't a landing or a takeoff, I think. I think it was just taxiing. It was a taxiing issue. Yeah. So that makes you feel better. No, it was landing. No, it was a taxiing issue.

Yeah, he was landing. No. No. No, you're wrong, Dan. I literally saw the video. He was landing. It happened. At the end of a land.

It happened five seconds after touching ground. Because he was slowing down. He hadn't slowed down. He was in the process of slowing down. And, I mean, I interviewed the guy that was on the plane. I got the only interview on Fox. I learned this week in New York. If anybody that was on the plane,

He said he knew immediately when they landed because the brakes hit super hard, super fast. It was like a fire truck. And everybody lunged forward. And then I saw the press conference. They literally counted it down from like seven seconds or eight seconds until impact. So it was, I told that story that I did my dog getting hit by the bike and not to make light of this. Like the confluence of events that needed to happen for my dog to get hit by the bike. Like that's sort of what this was for the controller to tell the, the,

truck to go right at that moment, right when he was landing. It just like, boom. Did you listen to air traffic control of the situation? It's crazy. Like how it happened? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

But my return trip from New York to Dallas, not the same kind of luck. I ended the show at five. I was probably in my car at 5.5. Eastern time. I was probably my car at 515, 520. I knew it was going to be a little tight. My flight was at 7. I got to the airport, horrible New York traffic. I always, yeah, I got to the airport at 610.

All right, it boards at 615. Now, in Dallas, honestly, that's not a problem. And I've had my moments at LaGuardia where it's not a problem. I've got all the things, pre-check, clear. I got all the things. I walk in, dude, and that line is all the way through, all the, you know, where you check your bags and do all that. And then there's this hallway at LaGuardia that goes to it.

a parking garage and it's all the way down that hallway towards the parking garage. And I get in it, I mean, I immediately know. And I call American because I'm concierge's key status. And I'm like, all right, you know, what do we do? They said maybe we can get you to the front of the line. Such a big time remove. Wow. And but then they said they couldn't.

They couldn't. And they said it's a two-hour line. And then I grabbed a lady. I just asked, hey, how long is this line? And they said about an hour. So I knew I was missing my flight. So I started working on a backup flight. But man, damned if that line didn't move faster than any roller coaster amusement,

six flags ride I've ever seen. I mean, it just kept moving and moving. You never stood still. You just kept walking. And I get to the front, and this is what I see. I've got it up on my screen here in the studio. Who's working the thing where you walk up and you get your picture taken and you're, they take your ready?

Ice. And these dudes, there was three of them. where I was, they were the most professional, pleasant, efficient dudes you've ever seen. Of course, I said, thank you for being here, appreciate you. They were processing that line. And to be fair, now, it's TSA that's doing the X-ray machines, so that has to keep moving, too. And they processed that line. I was through there at 635, boarding started at 625.

I hustled to the gate, got there at 640, 645. and got on the plane. You made your flight? Made it. Boom. Get out of here. Miracle. Made my flight.

No way. Yeah. But I forgot you're not on the other special. Thank you, ICE. You know, some people were shaking in their boots seeing ICE at that booth checking your passports. You know, I wondered that because there are people saying this, and it's true. This is an amazing PR move by the Trump administration for ICE because they're out there, handing out water.

They're giving Heimlicks to kids. You saw that video. There's a kid choking, an ICE agent runs in, saves his life. gives him the Heimlich. And they're sitting here doing this job. I think, I wondered we're in New York how many of these people hate ICE think they're Donald Trump stormtroopers and then have to acknowledge that ICE is doing a job to keep us all moving right here. You know, it's a great PR move. Thank you, I guess. Yeah. Thanks for getting us through to my flag. We're going to be joined today by Osir Namani again on the fifth installment of her series on Neville Roy

sing them. Before we get to Osra, we have introduced Will Call on Fridays, advice and questions from you, the Willisha. And we do have a couple. Patrick, why don't you pick your favorite, and let's run through one before we get to Azra Namani. Listen, Will, I'm getting really tired of the Willisha. They don't understand the concept here. I've had a lot of people. We said, give, ask Will, your best, we want your, we want what you have problems with. Will will, will answer them. He'll give you advice. I try to I've made it as clear as possible

and they're like, why would I want advice from Will Kane? I don't know. But these are the best we can do. I don't know what it is. Okay. I would want your advice. I like, I don't know. I think you have really good advice. Anyway, but Nathan Thune said

why can't I find a girlfriend? It's a little too generic. We don't know Nathan. We don't know Nathan. I know. I need more information. Yeah. I need more information. Okay. I can do this, though.

How tall are you? Is the question. How tall is it? Tell me if you guys, tell me if you guys disagree with this, okay? Let's lay out something. Okay. Dan, where'd you go to college? New England Institute of Technology. Oh, I don't think I ever knew that.

Rhode Island. New England Institute of Technology. Audio engineering and video production. Okay. Do they call it? Rhode Island Institute technology, they call it New England. It's NEIT, New England Tech, essentially. There's RIT, there's Rhode Island Technology, school technology.

Oh, that's a different school. Yeah. Okay. And Patrick, your Florida State? No, well, I was a community college here in Jacksonville and then got accepted and then just didn't go. Okay. And I'm Pepperdine. So we have, we have differences, but we are the same in.

this respect. Okay. My son, as I think I've said, is headed off to the University of Texas. And insanely, guys, the fraternity thing at UT starts the last semester of your senior year of high school. Like, this is when it starts and it ends before you get to school, which is insane. Because how do you do that? Like, I can't imagine a kid showing up from out of state and like, what do you mean? This thing's already over. And like, like, You go to a school like Florida State or the University of Texas and a really big school, size-wise. My advice to my son has always been, you're going to have to find a way to make it small. You have to.

You've got to find a way to find some guys. Like New York City. Right? And the easiest and most inertia-driven path of that is to do a fraternity. There are other ways to do it as well. But the fraternity is a thing. And look, to be honest, it's a lot of fun. Now, you know, I'm giving a lot of advice speeches.

What doesn't seem nice? The hazing doesn't seem great. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, man, I've started my algorithm, because my son is going through, this is kind of full with this stuff. And like, I've started to see posts about the value of hazing to masculine culture. Like, it has a real value. And I do think that's true. I think some of it, I think alcohol-based hazing is beyond absurd.

And I don't think they do that. I found that out last week. Back in our day, my day, my age, it definitely was. It definitely was, even on sports teams, okay, not just fraternities. And it's the stupidest thing that that's how you kill people. Bottom line, that's how you kill people. And we know people that have died. I know people that have died through that process.

But the hazing that they're doing now apparently doesn't involve as much of that kind of stuff. But it's still, look, Look, it just takes one bad apple on the hazing thing. That's the problem. It takes, you know. A little too far. I have this thing I've often said. And Patrick, you got to tell me if Osra is waiting and listening to this because I don't think this is a, this is an Ozra conversation.

She is, but, you know, it's fine. She is? Okay. Well, I'll try to go quickly through this. I have said to my friends, I don't think I've ever said this to you guys. And I said it on ESPN. There are three kinds of guys in the world and only three kinds of guys. And I'm going to try to use the appropriate language here.

this. There are A-holes, there are D-bags, and there are Ricks, if you pick up what I'm putting down, okay? A-holes, tools, D-Bag, kind of the same, right? And Ricks. Okay, there's three kinds of guys. Okay, in my estimation, an A-hole is a bull in a china closet. Yeah, he's going to hurt feelings, and yeah, he's going to be a problem here and there, but he isn't doing it intentionally. sort of innate to his nature. In a way, he almost can't help it. A D-Bag is ultimately harmless. He ultimately is. The only person he is hurting is himself. He's trying too hard. He is doing too much. And ultimately, he really is only hurting himself. Yeah. A RIC, which you know I'm not really using that word, but is one who puts other people down in order to lift himself up. A lot

like the D-bag, he is driven in some sense by some insecurity. But his insecurity manifests not in trying too hard, but in creating this little totem pole of hierarchy that he only can really elevate himself if he can identify people below him. And he will do his best to put people below him. He's the guy that makes the intentionally hurtful joke, but tries to laugh it off as though he's just being funny. Do you know what I'm saying? Do you think I'm pretty? Absolutely. Those three guys. It only takes one Rick in a fraternity hazing class. to make it bad, right? That's who you're worried about mostly.

And there is going to be one in almost every scenario. So, but what I'm getting at is the hazing thing has some value to a society of creating a group of guys that belong together that go through something hard. Even if it's stupid and arbitrary, it does have some masculine value. I do happen to believe that to be true. But getting back to Nathan, my advice to my son, like he's going down. to Austin. He's doing some of these events. And it's a hard thing to do because you're walking into rooms where you don't know people and you've got to get to know them. Because the hardest thing to be is anonymous, right? Rejection in these scenarios is often less about, I don't like you,

you're not one of us, and more about I don't know you. Why would I, you know what I mean? And so the challenge is, and I do think it's a life skill, to walk into a room and just get to know some guys and be as authentic version of yourself as you can. not to glaze everybody, not to be the loudest guy in the room so everybody notices you, not to be the drunkest, not any of those things, right? But just also not be a wallflower. My suspicion is with a lot of guys out there, and I can't say, Nathan, because you didn't give me a lot of information, is that when it comes to girls, it's the same thing going on.

You are allowing yourself to remain anonymous. You have to go into the room and make yourself known. you are going to strike out. You're not going to get every fraternity bid. Not every guy is going to like you, all these things. But your solution will not be to recluse yourself in any type of way to protect your ego. You're the fragility of your ego. You're going to have to take.

And it breaks my heart, fellas. I hear stories all the time, guys and girls, fraternity, sororities, high school cliques. I'm telling you, whatever. My wife says, this is my thing. Kids being left out or pushed out on the outer side of the circle, I hate it so effing. much. I hate it so much, and it's so hard on these kids that probably have to deal with a ton of it. But that being said, if you can figure out who you are and how to deal with rejection, you are going to be so much better in the long run for it. And that includes with girls as well.

So the best piece of advice I got for you, Nathan, and why you don't have a girlfriend? And again, I don't know your circumstances, is you're going to have to get in there and mix it up. You're going to have to. You're going to have to walk into the proverbial room where you don't know somebody. You're going to have to walk up to the girl wherever she is at the bar. Hey man, on the subway. A lot of my buddies disagree with me on that. But like, I was the guy that if I were on the subway, I didn't live in New York single. Dan, you do. And I saw a girl that piqued my interest. Heck yeah. I would speak to her. I 100% would. And so, I mean, it's that famous line. What is that movie? Or Saturday Not Live, you know, Eddie Murphy's, like,

like, you know, what's your thing? He's like, hey, I want to jump your bones. That's not, that's not the line. He's like, 99 times out of 100, she slaps my face, but that one time is magical. Yeah, I'm not saying that's your, that's not your goal. That's not your line, but the philosophy in there is right. That's also you being not from New York. I feel like New York guys won't do that. Like, you know, the guy Greg, we work with here, you know, Greg, young guy, single, he lives in New York City. He's from Ohio. And now he goes up to girls everywhere in New York City and has no qualms about doing it. But I think that's because he's from the Midwest.

So he just goes up to girls in the subway. Yeah, I think so. So I just don't think like New York-centric guys are, they're like too cool to talk to a girl on a subway. Yeah, I think too cool will kill you in anything. Yeah. In anything, too cool will kill you. Yeah.

Stop boring about being judged too. So that's my advice. Like, I'm almost 40. You're clearly over. 40 and it's like you just stop caring what people think after a while you know but it takes a long time and the quicker you can yeah you're right but the quicker you can get there the better and that's hard to ask of an 18 19 20 year old even a 25 year old but the quicker you can get there the better so that's my advice nathan thune unless you give me more information um maybe you are doing that

and your lines are all failing then we got a different workshop that's a different classroom that's down the hall. That's dating 102. Put the screen down. We'll get to that one in a future class. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back on Will Kane Country. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Join Fox in supporting our troops. From daily needs to global emergencies, help us be

there for those who serve. Visit go. Fox slash Red Cross to donate to service to the armed forces today. Welcome back to Will Cain Country. Azra Nomani is a Fox News Digital Investigative reporter who's joined us throughout the week on her deep dive five-part series uploaded at Fox News.com on the money and the organization behind the protest movements on the left. And it tracing back to one particular man, Neville Roycingham. Azra, get this. I got a text yesterday from a friend. kind of quasi-related. But anyway, he, he texted me. His text was simple.

Let me see if I can remember. It was N-R-S is a P-O-S. Wow. And, well, here's what stuck out to me. A, he now knows who Neville Roy Singham is. B, he has an acronym for him. It's getting colloquial. It's breaking through, Azra.

Yeah. And today I have a new term for him that it came to me. Again, almost pulling an all-night or last night, Will, but I did sleep a few hours. Get some sleep, Azra. Don't worry. You can look this good on a little sleep. So today, and our headline is we call him the new American Mao in Shanghai. Why? Because this is the document that I want to make sure you read in your weekend reading, okay?

Let me see. Can you guys see it? I'm going to take it out of the glare. Yeah, but the title's fuzzy. Tell me what it reads. It says the 80th anniversary of the victory in the world anti-fascist war. Does anyone know what that is, the world anti-fascist war? Is that World War II? It's World War II. So he has rewritten out of China's history narrative what was World War II. And these are my favorite tools as a journalist, the three-ring binder, right, with the Post-it notes and the three-ring binder cutter.

So in this document, it literally says that this study was written. by Neville Roy Singham. So he is the author. And he immediately asks in one page here on figure five, who paid the price, the death distribution in the world anti-fascist war. And then he has a chart. I know it's all blurry, but you can see the blur.

At the highest is the USSR and China. And then it's the colonies, the access powers, Eastern and Southern Europe, and at the very end is the Anglo-American contribution. And he says it was only less than a million. So what he's doing is a numbers game to try to rewrite the history so that China gets credit for defeating fascism. And then in this paper, in this document, 178 pages, what he argues is that, democracy and capitalism become fascism.

And that the real tension is between socialism and fascism, not democracy versus socialism. So it's academic and it's mental gymnastics. But at the end of it all, what he's preaching is Mao's philosophy. And so it dawned on me about four in the morning last night that what he's, has become is a new American Mao in Shanghai. Does that make sense? You know, let's, let's, yeah, let's entertain this for just a moment. Okay, I just want to think through this. Okay, so I'm sure the numbers that he's quoting are actually accurate. Yeah. You're measuring a contribution to

a victory in terms of the quantity of loss, the sacrifice. Well, most of those Chinese deaths, I believe, if I remember my history correctly, were in China. It was the Japanese invading China and killing Chinese in China. So does that amount to victory? I know you told us yesterday that he argues that tied up the Japanese and allowed American advances. But you know, I will tell you this, that in our history, Russia probably doesn't get enough credit for its contributions to the victory in World War II. Like Russia's Eastern Front, really did tie up the Germans. And they advanced and they got to Berlin first, right? Yeah. And I don't know what on that chart it says, but I'm sure the Russians lost a ton of people. But you cannot diminish the Western Front.

You cannot diminish D-Day. You cannot diminish the American advance through the Pacific Islands. And ultimately, the moral questions of it aside, the bombs that did end World War II in the Western, in the Pacific theater with the Japanese. So you just can't rewrite history to see victory only through the lens of the number of bodies lost on your side. Yeah. So what happens is that he argues, as does China and the Chinese Communist Party, that it was China holding off Japan that allowed Russia to Soviet Union to go to fight Germany.

and that they defeated Japan so decisively that America's use of the nuclear weapon was unnecessary and that this glorification also of the actions in Iwo Jima and other places was Western propaganda. But, well, you know, it goes back to something that we were talking about yesterday. To me, life doesn't have to be compared, and casualties and loss and death don't have to be judged which was more valuable than the other as he's trying to do. And that is at the heart of the moral and ethical flaw with a lot of the arguments of this effort that we've even seen in the U.S. to bring communism, the socialism onto our streets. because they create this new hierarchy of human value where the white person is less in contribution and even value as somebody that they have decided is more valuable. Yeah, but that's what I also get from this study is that it's a continuation of that, you know, degradation of people for your own ideological cause, which to me is very illiberal. Let me tell you one other thing. We talked about this yesterday, and I think you agreed with me, that it sounds like what he's created is a binary through which to see the world.

And the only true forms of societal organization are either fascism or communism. Here's what's kind of interesting about that. Okay, you and I agree. That's not the binary. And it erases a huge middle ground, including democracies and constitutional republics and parliamentary forms of government and all other forms of government, right? But he argues those are all somewhere on the continuum leading somewhere towards fascism. And he provides as it's opposite communism or socialism, right? Well, first I sit there and I think one thing I'll grant is the middle ground that is a relatively modern phenomenon. We're like two, three hundred years into this idea that we can be self-governed in some form, constitutional public democracy.

But so too is communism. Communism is like 150 years old. It's brand new. There's no model in human history of that form of government ever being sustainable or successful. None. And so truthfully, fascism is the normal course of human organization and civilizations. Kings, theocracies, you know, whatever it may be. And that's not an argument for fascism.

it's just to say you're not the binary socialism communism. You're not the other end of the scale. You're even more new than the other options we've developed. And you've put yourself on an equal playing field to the one option human beings chose through thousands of years, which was one great leader. Yeah, because really tyranny is a product of humanity also. I mean, the conquerors, the conquest, the empires, what were they? but tyrannies. They were autocratic rules of individual people, usually personality driven. And we don't always think of it that way. I mean, but what was Cleopatra? Was she elected?

What was Julius Caesar? What was, you know, Atala the Hun? And all of the conquerors through time. And if anybody is watching and wondering, like, is this just an esoteric conversation that we're having? I just wanted to ground us in the fact that we're talking about these issues because this movement that Neville Roy Singham has funded over nearly a decade has done a inversion on the American experience so that we now speak the language of these fascism as a possibility as what America is expressing and I'm gonna just show you like the strangest examples that I found. I got this in Pittsburgh. It was at a protest.

This one was after Venezuela. It was a pro-Moduro protest. So just think that, like, this is a protest for a man who has been a tyrant, too, in his nation. And I picked this up. And what they're talking about here is fight. Oh, I'm so sorry about this blur. It's because of the setting I put on. But it says fight cap.

there fight capitalism fight for socialism they're they're putting it on these cute little scarves and then it goes on to the other side um there's that one fight fight racism fight for socialism fight everything fight uh sexism fight for socialism so it's creating that binary you were just talking about and then what's the fourth corner what's the i know i can't miss it fight transphobia. Transphobia. Boom. I said, save the best one for last.

But, you know, this is a cute little product. I venmoed them because it's a good capitalist system when you go to the socialist protest and you can venmo for your communist publication and your socialist scarf. But this is how they're putting out these cute little products in order to sell these very complex ideas that are actually a false. false binary, just like you said. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Fox News investigative reporter Osir Namani on Wilkane Country.

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Really, really interesting. You've done this series now, and I know that you've spoken to some American politicians. Because a lot of people watching go through this and they're like, well, what can you do about it? What can be done? And there are some politicians in Washington, D.C., who have opened investigations. Is there not into Neville Roy Singham? Yes. Yeah, we actually hadn't spoken about that and I thought, wow, we need to discuss it.

So thanks for bringing it to that level, which is that day one, I wrote that Justice Department, Treasury Department, and State Department are all investigating Neville Roy Shingham and his network. And then the House Ways and Means Committee, which is one of the most powerful committees governing tax, is investigating Neville Roy Shingham, as is the House Oversight Committee. And so some folks might wonder, why Treasury? Because many of these organizations operate with nonprofits called 501c3s. There's one 501C4 in there. And that means that you get tax deductible donations.

So all the money that Neville Roy Singham poured into these organizations was a tax deduction for him in that year when he made a lot of money off the sale of the business ThoughtWorks. So that's one benefit you get. A second benefit is that you don't have to pay taxes on everything. So you go to your local office depot and you can show them your EIN number as a nonprofit and you don't have to pay taxes, which I bet everybody here would love to do. And so the idea with this is that many people may know in history that, that Al Capone was notoriously associated with murder

and serious crimes, but the way that he was sent to jail was through tax evasion. And the tax laws are very low-hanging fruit in this kind of debate about big ideas like malign foreign influence and other things. But importantly, what a tax lawyer told me was that, Free speech, of course, is one of the most fundamental rights in the United States.

But when you are representing the statements and viewpoints of a foreign entity in the United States, you do have to register as a foreign agent. And you do not get free speech rights if you are just talking, representing the Islamic Republic of Iran or the People's Republic of China. And so that's one of the laws that the Justice Department oversees. And then State Department has already put out a report in which they've called two of the organizations in Neville Roy's Singham's network, vectors of influence for China. And when you identify them in that way, you're now exploring this issue of whether they are acting as actors of malign foreign influence. which three words that I hope everyone will kind of roll around in their minds because there's this

place called the NDNI National Directorate of Intelligence. It was stood up after 9-11, and they have a malign foreign influence unit, as does the FBI. And so those are some of the areas of law. Yeah, the foreign agent thing is one that occurred to me that he should have to register as a foreign agent and then this money would be subject to some other types of regulations and oversight. And it would probably neuter in some ways a lot of these organizations' ability to do what they do. Yeah. So at the end of this, Osra, five-part series, a lot of your time, a lot of hard work, months, I know,

what is your biggest takeaway for everyone listening that they should know, not just about never always seeing them, but what they see when it comes to every one of these protests. Well, I hope everybody will tune in as you talk more about this issue because I'm hoping, I've heard that you might have on a propaganda scholar that I interviewed a named Nancy Snow. And, you know, I studied propaganda myself when I was in grad school. And it is so important to basically understand who is the source of any information. that you get and what are their objectives and who may be funding that communication to you. There are many ideas that we've introduced through this series that I hope people will think about

when they receive any information, including what you're hearing today. You know, just evaluate like Will, what is Will trying to get? What's his objective in this? What's us trying to do? Just like you asked me right now, I wanted to bring transparency to this process of this messaging that has been happening on the streets. I would go into the protests, and I could connect the dots and see the signals and see, you know, an operation, a business operation.

And my journalism has trained me to follow the money. So there's concepts like narrative warfare, smokeless war, cognitive warfare, information warfare. Every single person is a target of that kind of warfare. I've had to look up myself, what does kinetic actually mean? And it means usually when there is violence. And sometimes these protests can become kinetic, but mostly they're called non-kinetic. And that's another type of warfare. And so I just would hope that people would look below the iceberg, as they say sometimes,

and explore what is behind the information that they are getting. Well, the best thing they can do to get that started is to head over to foxnews.com, the final installment in this five-part series on Neville Roy Shingham and the money and organization behind the protests on the left. An incredible piece of work done by Azzan Amani, Fox News investigative digital reporters. Thank you so much, Oz, for being with us all throughout this week and doing this job. Absolutely will. And, you know, tomorrow is the famous No Kings protests. I'm going to get on a plane and go to St. Paul for that and follow the money there.

And this is a conversation that I hope we'll keep having. Yeah. I'm just going for the Springsteen concert that they're going to have. And a sighting of Jane Fonda. But, you know, this is not the end. We're going to keep at it. All right. Good.

Good for you, Osir. Thank you so much. Good to see you again. There she goes, Azar Namani. We're back now with 10-4-Patent two-a-days, Dan. And another. question from the Willisha. Do you want me to pick it, Patrick, or do you want to pick your next favorite one?

Yeah, why don't you pick it? You see, yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Uh-huh. Okay. Let's go with maybe, there's a lot of serious ones to your point, like political ones. You know what I mean?

Chris asks, I have a question since you're a lawyer. Yes, I am, Chris. If an illegal immigrant broke federal law crossing the border along with murdering a U.S. citizen, shouldn't the DOJ handle that as a death penalty case? That's heavy. Great question, right? Like, why do we go straight to deportation? And the answer is yes, right? Yes.

Death penalty. I mean, that's a state-by-state thing. It's not really a DOJ thing. I guess we do have feds involved, but that should be a, yeah, yeah, but murder. I don't know. That's interesting. If murder's committed by an illegal immigrant, does that make it a federal case? Depends on who brings the charges, right? So, like, I mean, you think about, like, levels of terrorism.

But not every murder is, but not every murder, the feds can't, it has to qualify to be a federal case. The cross state lines to get there. It's usually, according to the particular. Yeah. That's federal. Yeah, I, he started out with sexual. Did we declare this a, what was it? Ken Kuchichilli

I'm butchering his name but didn't they declare this an invasion back in the day? So technically it's like an act of terrorism. Yeah, I don't know but I mean, you know, for sure somebody, a state or a Fed should be pursuing this according to the death penalty.

Dan, look this up. Yeah. How many states have the death penalty right now? How many states are doing it? And then there's a question of not just do you have it on the books as a lot. law, but are you actually carrying out the death penalty? Because I think, isn't it California technically has it on its books, but hasn't carried out

27 states? Capital punishment and have capital punishment. States with a death penalty. But does that include California, for example? And when's the last time California actually executed someone? Hmm. Let's do that. So I don't think 27 states are actually doing the death penalty.

to have it on the books, you could be sentenced to it, but it never actually happens. Yeah, there's a difference between active and inactive. The last execution in California was 2006 in January of 2006. It's more recent than I would have guessed, to be honest. We need to pump those numbers up. The execution chamber has been dismantled by Governor Gavin Newsom. Really? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yep. What a failed state. And he, for real, is going to run for president. And he's probably going to be the leader. And it's just like, talk about failing your way up. There's literally nothing on his resume that suggests competent leadership. He's bad for the Democratic Party.

Nothing other than aura. Other than aura. That's all you need to win president. Bad for the Democrat Party? Do you think maybe we should just stop trying in life? Like, just start oramaxing? Like just focused on that. How do I get my aura up?

Yeah. So like, well, you know who the kids are into clavicular, looks maxing guy? Right? Everyone's so dumb. Didn't he say Gavin Newsom should be president because he's looks maxed? Probably. Because it is aura. I think he said something like that.

So to your point, Patrick, like, I mean, I'm the one also who said that I read that it's 80% how you look. 80% how you look. So. Yeah, he said, uh, he, he said over J.D. Vance because Mr. Newsom looks more in shape than Mr. Vance is what clavicular said. Yeah. Yeah, but Vance is out, he's a former Marine out there running on the beach and stuff. I mean, like, you know, it's not like he's not in shape.

He looks aura. It might be the beard. Is taking away? The beard is taken away. I think, I think a beard is great. Have we reached. have we gone over peak beard I'm talking to two bearded men

Patrick are you doing a goatee Is that what you're doing? I've always done this Yeah the circle beard technically But yes So 1990s I'd like to embrace my inner is bad guy They're back

Goaties are back Of course the 90s are back Yeah Are we Have we reached peak beard We've gone over peak beard Right You mean like it's it's

it's overdone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there was a time when beards were cool and edgy and it got super popular. 2010s when I had a beard. And then, and then. People like Dan started doing it. I would say beers are on the, I think beers are on the decline, don't you think? I would say so mustaches came back in a huge, huge way.

Women love mustaches. It used to be like when we were growing up, if you had a mustache, you're like a creepy guy. Do they? I've been doing research on this. I have, weirdly. There are a lot of women on the internet that were like, I didn't know what I thought about the mustache, but I do like the mustache,

because they did side by sides with a guy with a mustache and without, and they always liked him with. Having said that, it takes a certain guy to be able to pull it off. You have to be, like, super handsome and muscular. My dad was, in shape. My dad was a mustache guy. So was mine. My dad.

So 80s were mustache. And so you're right, the mustache is back. But I'm not buying completely. Top Gun did it. When the new Top Gun movie came out, that's what did it. Like Tom Selleck is... Did you say there's only two guys? Tom Selleck's one.

I was going to guess who they were. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Tom Selleck is the king of the mustache, right? Right. Who is... Freddie Mercury? I mean, you can't go full...

No. You can't go full Sam Elliott. You can't go full Sam Elliott because he's always sort of... in the cowboy character. Like, Tom Selleck did it regardless of the character, right? And it translated. I feel like Sam Elliott was too tied to his cowboy image. So who had the versatile mustache besides Tom Selleck?

Um, Bert. Yep. Oh, did Bert have a month? Yes. Burr Reynolds. Is that what you're thinking, Patrick? He's the, Smokey and the Bandit mustache. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What'd you look up to see that answer? I said, actors most known for their mustache. There's not a lot back in the day. I mean, Sam Elliott's in there, Clark Gable, Groucho Marx, but that's not really what we're talking about.

Nick Offerman? Do you have a Hitler stash? Yeah. Yeah. Which is a real shame. He had a Hitler mustache, right? Yeah. So to Charlie Chaplin.

It's like one guy ruined the whole pool, you know? What guy ruined that terrible mustache style? Michael Jordan for all the fashion cycles. And if Michael Jordan can't do it, nobody can. So like of all the fashion cycles that have come and gone, you know, the beard comes and goes, the goatee comes and goes, the mustache comes and goes, bell bottoms, skinny jeans, in and out. The fricking mustache that Groucho Marx and Charlie Chaplin did was killed by Adolf Hitler and never to come back. And if Michael Jordan can't bring it back, nobody can. So you're right.

Here's my prediction. Within 10 years, somebody, there's going to be, it's going to come back within 10 years. The Hitler stash. I think, yeah. We've been right for 80 years. He killed it for 80. I think he might kill it for roughly 85, 90, but I will predict within the next 5 to 10 years, you will see it non-ironically. It will start ironically.

It'll start subversively. It'll start edgy, right? And then somehow what's going to happen is it'll probably be some alt-right figure who decides I'm going to do this. Somewhere in Brooklyn, it's like a virus. It's going to mutate. And it will mutate in Brooklyn into the hipster crowd. And then we're off and running. And then we're off and running.

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Yes. What the hell, man? Oh, am I supposed to do that? Yeah, Patrick. Well, aren't you doing most of the booking? Oh, yeah, that's true. You should do some more relaxing. Well, except for Lawrence Jones yesterday.

But, yeah. I bet you would come on. Look at this. Look at this one. Sandra Gaddy Murphy says Will is going soft on illegals. And soft on illegals is all in caps. And I'm going to tell you what's throwing me off, Sandra. Is the purple devil emoji afterwards?

Yeah. Is the purple devil emoji mean they're tweaking me? Is that being sarcastic? Being sarcastic? I don't know. Yeah, I couldn't tell. but I'm like of all the people to accuse of going soft on illegal immigration or immigration period it's your thing I might be do you think in at least mainstream media

which I'm a member of I am the most hawkish yes you're the most hard-lined on immigration and I wasn't always yeah there's some internet people worse but yeah oh for sure worse or do you mean better I was nope not better I I think they're doing the devil emoji. That's true. I think they're doing the devil emoji to be like, I like you will, but you're going soft. Like, ha ha. Like, I would like to have the debate.

I'm going after you, but I still like you. I would like to have the debate tomorrow next week with Lawrence. Well, speaking of Lawrence Jones. The nickname? Yesterday, we talked to Lawrence Jones about black people versus white people nicknames. Yes. And Lawrence contended. Lawrence's argument was nonsensical.

he said white people develop arbitrary nicknames that don't make sense like i think he tried to argue that billy is a standalone name and not a nickname for william was that what he was arguing yes what he was arguing and it and he was arguing that like jack and this one is the hardest one for me to accept but jack shouldn't be a nickname for john and by the way jack has i think jack has i think jack is actually like the Hitler mustache, it's mutated. Like, I don't, I think most jacks you meet aren't actually Johns.

But back in the day, all Jacks were Johns. The most insane thing. Right? I am Jack. Actually, I'm John. What? What? No, no. No, it's the other way around. Hi, I'm John, but I go by Jack. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's John F. Kennedy, Jack Kennedy. You know what's funny? But he was saying

this is a silly white person. I had a distant cousin, who who I believe was John Birch and he went by Jack because of the confusion over the John Birch Society. John Birch Society? Yeah. Didn't want to play in that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, Bobby, Robert. This is a thing that's developed over time, thousands of years.

And Lawrence Jones, Larry Jones, doesn't just get to step in and say, you know, what are you doing white people? Like, these names wouldn't exist. It's not like there was a bunch of billies running around and one day goes, somebody goes, you know, Billy, you should really adopt a more formal version of your name, William. It was the other way around.

His name was William, and somebody goes, he's too little, let's call him Billy. And they all did start probably as child versions of the name. And then over time, what we've accepted is that the child version became okay to be as an adult. I imagine in, what do you think? 1880, you know, my son's Charlie. He wouldn't be Charlie. Well, Billy the kid? At some point, at some point as an adult, he would transition into being Charles, right?

But he'll be Charlie his whole life, I think. He'll be Charlie his whole life, and that's not a thing they did back then. I wanted to rebrand. They transitioned into the full name. Or scooter. I wanted to rebrand from Dan to Daniel when I got older, because I thought Daniel was more refined. But I didn't. Kept Dan.

Yeah, you're Dan. And I was Danny when I was a kid. Yeah, when I was a kid. You were? Yeah, and then I grew up. Yeah. became a teenager, then I was Dan. I was like, you know what?

I should become Daniel just to full circle it, you know, full evolution. You know, I know you didn't want to say this earlier. Did you start calling yourself? Hold on. Did you start calling yourself Dan? Yeah. Everybody was calling you Danny and you're like, no, it's Dan now? Yeah. Did you do that?

Yeah, oh yeah. I started writing with everything. I wrote it on all my, like, everything. And when like sports, like when I played baseball and basketball, was like, make sure you put Dan, not Danny. Do some of your friends still call you Danny? And you're like, come on, guys. It's not Danny anymore?

No, they call me Ovi. Like your old friends You're old old friends Why were you a hockey guy Ovi is that's a hockey thing to do Ovi? Yeah, Overlock Ovi He didn't exist back then Ove

I'm just saying like the Last name Becum everybody in hockey This is such a hockey thing To add the E to everything Right and it's usually off the last thing No it's a hockey thing No it's not

It's particularly hockey thing Yes They call me Ovi OV or Ovi Ovi This, you know, was a nickname. Patrick, it's particularly hockey. Like, if I had played hockey, I'll bet you the coach would call me Kaney or something like that.

Right? Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It would be, uh, yeah, yeah, be Kainey. They would call you Hattie. Haddy. Yeah.

Haddy's a good one. Like hat shirt. Oh, yeah? Exactly. They might call you tricky. What I was going to say? Were you ever Pat? Were you ever Pat?

No. Patty? No. I was very shy. When I started playing hockey, they said, my first name is Roy. And so they're like, what do you go by? And I'm like, do you go by Roy? Do you go by Patrick?

And I'm like, I don't know. Patrick's your middle name, right? They're like, what about RP? And so they called me RP for like two years before I started correcting them. But I never went by that. Why, RP? Is your first name Roy? Your first name's Roy?

Mm-hmm. Oh, you're like me. You go by your middle name. I'm the only one. I got to go. I got to start doing that. Maybe you're more Southern than I give you credit for. I'm extremely Southern.

All right, so back to the nicknames in Lawrence Jones. We told Lawrence yesterday this white people versus black people nickname thing is great. There's actually a comedy bit about this. And Dan, you went and grabbed it. It's the fault thing. You have it, right, Dan? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll play it.

Play it. We try to be funny with nicknames. We call big people nicknames like Tiny. Slim. We neednamed people after food. I know a cornbread or pork chop and a collard green. I know this one dude, his nickname is boss. And he ain't got no job.

I'm like, who you the boss, uh? Yourself? Yeah, but I think white dudes have the coolest nicknames. I really do. Because white dudes nicknames go with them their entire life. Yeah, white dudes have nicknames like Rusty, Skip, Chip. Chip.

Like, your nickname could be Chip. You could be the CEO of a bank. You can have Chip on your business cards. The brothers can't do that. Pookie can't be a branch manager at the bank. You don't trust your money with Pookie. Like, right this way, Dr. Junebug will see you. Like, no, he will not.

What you're not going to do is have me in a room with a Dr. Junebug. I sent that to Lawrence, by the way, yesterday. He said, no, that's funny. So good. Mike Goodwin. We got to get, we got to get, Mike Goodwin is the comedian in that. We got to get Lawrence straightened out on his nicknames. Meanwhile, back to the Wilicia.

John Androsic, five for fighting. Let's go. Says, Will, are you pro or anti-fighting in hockey? I am for sure pro-fighting in hockey. It's so great. You know, do you think, what do you think about? about the fights in hockey, are they too neutered? Meaning they're not very vicious, to be honest, in the end.

They're a couple of punches because you go to the ground. Somebody slips, and once it goes to the ground, it's over. And I don't think they should be doing jiu-jitsu on the ground with their skates. But the whole thing about fighting being brutal and all that, it actually isn't that brutal. Like, the worst-case scenario is probably that you take two punches. Don't you think? Yeah, just grab the...

It used to be way better. They used to be like in the 90s. Like you had guys who were dedicated fighters like Bob Probert and they would beat the hell out of you. I mean, you'd be all bloodied up. Well, like... And I feel like, you know, I want to get the people who were anti-fighting out of the hockey fandom.

Like, those people need to go away. What they do is they grab each other now, but they push each other further away so they don't get hit. Back of the day, they used to pull you so you could hit. You know what I'm saying? So now it's... It's like a push so they don't want to get hit. They used to pull you in so they could hit you.

That's the difference is what I've seen. Well, I think also a lot of guys took pride not going down back in the day. So you could literally stand there and trade punches. And now, look, I'm not saying they're wusses. You don't want to get hurt. You want to keep playing hockey. So I think there's a little more willingness to go to the ground, thus ending the fight. A little more.

Don't you think that's fair? Yeah. It's a lot more neuters than it was. There's no enforcers anymore. You know what I mean? There's no guys. Teams used to have a guy on the fourth line whose job it was just to beat people

up. For sure. And now it's like, yeah, that guy gets smoked now. Yeah, you have to be able to ski. Rangers have one. Rumpy. Yeah, but he can skate still and he can still play.

I was going to say, those guys can't skate. They get smoked now with everybody being so fast and skilled. Right. That's true. Over in the wish, Elise Winter says,

Will, what would you do if you weren't on TV anymore? You've already done lot, went to Montana, wrote a book, ESPN, now Fox, what would be next? I do want to write. That's on my, that's on my mind. Like, you've got to, I want to write something. I really, really do. And I'm suffering from paralysis by analysis. I really am. But, yeah, and I, and I think that what I want to write, I've got a, I've got a couple nonfiction ideas now. It's going to go back to this lady saying I'm soft on immigration,

It's something around. You know what I'm, if I write a nonfiction, no, listen to me. You guys know this probably. I started thinking about what I always get impassioned about. History. Home. Oh. I am impassioned by the concept of home.

What does that mean? Soft. What does it mean for a people to be tied to a place? And what it means spiritually to be home. And what it means when your home no longer becomes your home. And I think there's something there. I really do. I think on the interpersonal level, I think on the societal level, I think on the cultural level, there's just something to this concept of home.

But the truth is, I want to write either a narrative nonfiction or a fiction story, mostly. Sounds like a good Netflix. You know what I mean by narrative non-home. Yeah. You're not clicking on that. I am. I am. I'm not a picture of a dude invading a home.

Yeah. I don't know. There's still something on the whole like history, narrative nonfiction, James Mishner, American West. Yeah, would that be your part of history? I'm interested in do. I think so. Yeah. I do think so. I've told you guys about this. I just think the problem is, if you want to actually sell a book, there's a reason everybody writes books about Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy and George Washington. It's because everybody can get in on it. You know, I've got a book on Kit Carson that I don't know how well it's sold by Hampton Sides. I just, I don't know. I don't know. how people can get in on blood and thunder about Kit Carson.

All right. Patrick, before we go, you had a couple other stories real quick. Do you want to stay in the world of hockey where you're really fired up of the Nashville predators? Go ahead. This is trending everywhere because this is not a morality judgment here, okay? But it's just like they didn't really think this won through. So yesterday, so that's next. That's next.

The first, the other ones is the first one. So the Nashville Predators yesterday had a Pride night where they wear pride jerseys and they come out. They tape their sticks and rainbow colors. The problem is they didn't really think it through that their team name is the Predators. Yeah. Took me a minute to get that one. And so people are calling them the gay predators. You know, like it's just a marketing faux pa, if you will.

Well, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Why are they, I don't, here's something I don't understand. It's March 26th when this happens. Yes. Why is that Pride night? I thought Pride was in June. Is it because the Hockey season's going with?

in June? Yeah, I guess. I just don't understand, like, do they just now pick random nights to say, we're doing this tonight? Because the whole, what I'm getting at is the pride thing, it seems to have escaped its confines. It's all the time, you know, like, do they do black history night in a random April? Yeah. Or, you know, that's only in February. But pride gets to move around and get a ton of dates throughout the year. A lot of reactionary, too.

Like if something happens, they'll be like, hey, we need a pride night. And a lot of teams are actually backing off of these. Like, because they're like we're focusing on, you know, too much on, on sexuality and all this kind of stuff. Even in the month of June, like more and more corporations, it used to be like every corporation in June would switch over. And then July first comes around and it's like, oh, you know, we're back to where we were. I want to sit in those boardrooms when they decide what. nights should be one. Did any players, did any players decline to do this for national? I do not see that. They, they have in the past. I know, I know, speaking of Ovi, Alexander Ovechkin did not do it during the

Capitol's Pride Night a few months back. You always see this. In European soccer, they do this all the time, and there's going to be some players. It's actually usually a Muslim player. It's like not doing it, you know, and it becomes a whole deal, a whole huge deal. Now, another great part about this, Go ahead. That they played the devils and lost to them. So on Pride Night, they lost to the devils. Okay. It's kind of, I don't know.

Just kind of a little funny. So aren't they just warm up? Because didn't they ban this in 2023, 2024? Yeah, it's all warm up stuff. It's not. You can't have like the pride stuff while you're playing a game. It's like warm up stuff. Oh, really?

Yeah, it's not. it's not for the actual game. They banned it in 23. They had big old lollipop candy cane sticks during warm-ups, rainbow sticks? Yeah. That was something. Blow up dolls and...

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