Will Cain Country - Is Biden's Nomination No Longer Inevitable?
Episode Date: September 15, 2023Story #1: Is it no longer inevitable? Why some Democrats may have finally soured on a second term for President Biden. Story #2: Where have the adults gone? A fascinating conversation on culture, po...litics, and media with FOX News Contributor and Author of The War on The West, Douglass Murray. Story #3: Your best weekend football bets with FOX Sports Betting Analyst Chris "The Bear" Fallica. 3 College Football & 3 NFL picks that might make you money this weekend. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainPodcast@fox.com Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, an inevitability, that's not what it's presumed.
Trump Biden, 2024.
But for one of these candidates, the cracks have become audible.
They've become visible.
For one of these candidates, they may not make it to 2024.
Two, where have all the adults gone?
What happened to wisdom?
A fascinating conversation with Douglas Murray.
Three, your best bets of the week with Chris Felica, the bear.
It's the Will Kane podcast on Fox News Podcast.
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Story number one.
It must have been fascinating to be there at the end of the ice age.
When you could hear the cracks in the glacier, maybe even see the cracks beginning to form,
maybe even begin to see the ice melt away.
No, I'm not talking about modern day climate religion death cult,
who predicts the end of the earth,
is one more Arctic glacier falling away into the ocean away.
Instead, I'm talking about the inevitability of Trump Biden 2024.
You can hear the cracks in that certainty.
You can watch this matchup begin to fall apart.
But it isn't the presumed indictments or criminal conviction of President Donald Trump that I think threatens that inevitability.
It is Joe Biden.
The thing about seeing the end of an era, the thing about seeing the end of something is it is never obvious in that moment.
It starts small erosion that turns into a mudslide.
And so, therefore, it isn't unanimous.
It isn't in concert.
It's only, well, just beginning.
CNN has begun to close.
question the stories of Joe Biden, their quote-unquote fact-checker, who is anything but
Daniel Dale hasn't shown much interest since the end of the Trump administration in checking
any facts. But in the past week, they ran a segment about all of Joe Biden's lies. It seems to be
predicated by the moment where Biden suggested he was there at ground zero on 9-11, which is most
certainly not true. But it's something that he said.
For any of us that keep up with Joe Biden, so.
He's got so many lies.
But they began to be cataloged by CNN.
No, he didn't drive an 18-wheeler like he suggests.
No, he wasn't there after a shooting at a synagogue.
He spoke to the rabbi, but wasn't there at the synagogue.
No, he isn't the man he has pretended to be.
He isn't the guy who wrote Amtrak and told a story about a conductor who was long dead after he proclaims the story took place.
No, he is not the man who's lived up to the stories that he has told.
Those are mostly lies.
And that should not come as a surprise because most of his early presidential candidacies and campaigns failed under accusations of plagiarism.
And he stole what he was saying from other people.
Now it seems he's just fabricating stories about his life, about the world.
That's not notable.
We know that about Joe Biden.
What's notable is that the mainstream media, notably in this case, CNN, has noticed and has said so.
And that's the cracks.
You have to put it into the context of understanding the steel wall of the media, the absolute impenetrable fairy tale land that they've lived in for the past three years.
No negative words.
No critical analysis of Joe Biden.
Why?
Because, oh, my God, that could empower Donald.
Trump. So you cover, you lie, you propagandize for Joe Biden. When that stops, that's notable. When
the propaganda ends, that's news. They seem to be preparing to move on from Joe Biden. Don't be so
naive. We can't believe it's a moment where they all of a sudden have seen the light, have found
Jesus. They're ready to tell the truth. No, maybe perhaps they've seen that, well, now, Joe Biden
trails Donald Trump in aggregate polls by one point in a hypothetical general election
matchup.
Now they see the ridiculousness of potentially turning to Kamala Harris.
Now they see that Joe Biden isn't a blank slate.
He's not simply a referendum on Donald Trump.
He's not just simply other.
He's Joe Biden with three years of track record, and that's not very popular.
It's not very good.
Hasn't worked for America.
So I've got to find an alternative.
Now, this has been predicted.
in corners like right here on the Will Cain podcast that they will turn.
Almost certainly, to California Governor Gavin Newsom.
But it is notable that they are turning on Joe Biden.
But I mentioned it's not in concert, it's not in unison.
There's still those that are holding to the idea that there is no evidence to indict or impeach Joe Biden based upon the obvious corruption of Hunter Biden.
We laid out that evidence in the previous episode of the Will Came Pugas.
Go check it out.
Go listen to that.
We go through it point by point, seven different pieces of circumstantial evidence.
But it was interesting to see as the AP continues to write with no evidence, look at their headlines, look at what they say.
Kevin McCarthy, House Majority Leader pursues an impeachment inquiry with no evidence against Joe Biden.
That's always what they say.
But one particular AP reporter was confronted by Kevin McCarthy.
He says, you keep saying no evidence.
And then he walks through, step by step with her.
Do you think this happened?
Do you believe this happened?
Do you believe he had dinners with Hunter Biden's associates?
Do you believe he talked on the phone with Hunter Biden's corrupt business partners?
Do you believe that he lied when he said that he never had any business dealings or any relationship to Hunter's business dealings?
Do you believe the bank records that show $20 million is going to associates of the Biden family?
Do you believe if there was a $3 million payment shortly after one of these meetings with Hunter,
Biden's corrupt business partners.
And every step of the way, the AP reporter says, well, that's the testimony.
Well, that's what's been claimed in the testimony.
Yes, true.
That's in the testimony in front of the House Oversight Committee.
Does this AP reporter know?
Does she understand that testimony is evidence?
Testimony is evidence.
I mean, the justice system is predicated upon calling witnesses to the stand.
That is evidence.
Is she dumb?
Is she stupid?
Is she playing stupid?
Is she playing dumb?
How can she write on one hand with no evidence and on a moment later say, oh, well, that's the testimony?
She either doesn't understand testimony or is once again proven to be a propagandist, remaining frozen melt in the glacier, not yet cracked, not yet falling into the ocean, not yet ready to sing in concert the truth.
because perhaps the AP hasn't yet figured out exactly where they will turn after Joe Biden.
I promise you, not once it's become undeniable during an impeachment inquiry, but once they feel comfortable with Gavin Newsom, that's when the cracks will turn into a landslide, an avalanche.
That's when they'll turn from Joe Biden.
That's when the inevitability of Trump Biden 2024 will turn into something else.
versus probably Donald Trump.
We'll be right back with more of the Will Kane podcast.
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Story number two. Whatever happened to wisdom, what happened to the adults in the room?
Douglas Murray is one of the most fascinating and smartest guys that I know. He's the author of
the war on the West. You should check out that book.
Pretty much whenever Douglas Murray has an opinion he wants to share, I am a willing
listener. I have an ear.
Douglas joined us just recently to talk about his criticism of Western culture, not just
the United States of America, but Western culture at large in turning over decision-making
to the youth, turning away from the veneration of age.
I put it to him, what about Mitch McConnell?
what about Nancy Pelosi? What about Diane Feinstein? What about Joe Biden? And he says, age and wisdom do not always go hand in hand. And our gerontocracy doesn't necessarily mean that we have embraced wisdom. But it does suggest the older you are, the more deferential you happen to be often towards the trends of the youth. He asks an amazing question here. Whatever happened to wisdom? I hope you enjoy this conversation with Douglas Murray.
so great to see you again. I want to, if we might just start off with a video I saw of you recently.
I have no idea when you recorded this video, but I'm not even here to tell you it went viral.
I think it's only got 10 likes. But one of my producers noticed this video.
And it was a fascinating piece of wisdom, as you are accustomed to sharing, where you are saying that what's happened in culture is that adults have run in fear of children, that adults have vacated the public square.
I wonder, and as you gave as an example in that video, you talked about on college campuses,
you talked about in corporate boardroom life in the United Kingdom.
I wonder why it is you feel like adults have run in fear from youth.
It's a very interesting phenomenon in this, Will.
Some people in modern America think that it's inevitable that the kids would have all of the running.
There's even a sort of assumption that, for instance, young people always rebel.
And that's not the case.
Many cultures, in fact, most cultures revere age and wisdom.
They don't revere ignorance and novelty.
And there's something particular in American and I think wider Western culture,
basically in the last 50 years or so where I think a lot of adults lost confidence in their ideas.
Some of that was justified.
Much of it was not.
But it means that now we have.
this strange situation in sector after sector of the culture and of business where, yes, I mean,
the CEO is weirdly not the person wielding power. The power can be wielded by any junior
employee or intern making a claim of discomfort. I've given example after example of this in recent
books. I mean, somebody like a partner at KPMG, major accountancy firm. KPMG has a partner
who says that he doesn't think that bias training makes much sense. A junior employee
complains, and he's out. This did not use to be the case. I don't need to tell you that,
that the adults ran in fear of the kids, but I think that is what's happening. And unfortunately,
not only does it make the whole culture stupider,
It means we're always, every adult is at the mercy of young people who may be being sincere and very often may not be and may simply be utilizing a weapon for their own advantage.
There's a lot of different layers to this onion that I want to peel back, but I want to, and in fact do accept your premise.
I certainly accept the fact that youth seems to be running culture.
And I think anyone who has worked in corporate America has experienced this phenomenon where, as you just point out, the lowest level employee can make the CEO shiver in his big leathered back chair. He can make his spine go weak for whatever reason. That seems to be, Douglas, I would suggest perhaps a 30, 40, 50 year phenomenon, maybe a little more recently than what I'm discussing. Maybe in the last
20 years. But I don't think it's uncorrelated to the rise of human resources, to the rise of the
HR department in corporate America. Where in sort of a role validation, self-validation,
those wings of every corporation take those types of accounts and complaints so very seriously
and then in turn can threaten the job of the CEO.
Yes, the rise of HR has a huge amount to do with this. I've said a number of times,
recently that I'm struck by the fact that one of the jokes that people like me have told in recent years
turned out to be flat out wrong. And that was a joke that if your kid really wanted to go to
Berkeley to do Celtic knitting and lesbian performative dance as a degree, good luck because you're not
going to pay off your loan because there's nobody who wants you in their employ. The joke actually
turned out to be on me and people like me. It turned out that these masses of places to go to,
They filled up HR departments, and they even fill up HR departments at conservative institutions.
You know, so it's a real problem at this.
HR is, of course, just a sort of massively, it's one of those like amoebid beings that just grows and grows.
And obviously, you know, if you set up a department within an organization to find problems and deal with them,
it will keep finding problems and find reasons to keep growing.
That's definitely a part of it.
But just also consider the way in which we talk about age and experience in our society.
I mean, what is the one demographic that you can routinely simply insult and wish to get rid of?
Oh, we've got such an aging demographic, whether that's in sport or in, in, in,
in, I don't know, movies or theater or the arts or almost anything.
If you see immediate, when you're saying,
there's a worry that the demographic is old.
We talk about age and old people as if they are simply a problem.
And as if the solution to all of that is more and more young people.
And again, that hasn't been the case historically in almost any civilization I can think of.
In 19th century Vienna, young men wanted to look old.
Stefan Zvaig writes about this.
They actually wanted to look older than they were
because to be a young man was to be a bit ignorant
and not that full of knowledge, and you didn't want that.
Strangely, in our own culture, we have old people wanting to be young
because we've just said that sort of wisdom doesn't really have a place in the society.
You know, as long as something is said,
by something new and shiny, we get interested in it. But, you know, where is the wisdom? Where is
the memory? Where is the knowledge that should be imparted? We've done away with it almost
deliberately, it seems to me. Do you think, Douglas, you're much more culturally well-rounded
than I. Do you think that is uniquely, not just Western, but uniquely American? I mean,
America reveres youth. And America reveres the future over the past.
America is all about, I don't mean this politically, but progressive cultural revolution.
What I mean by that is America is always into inventing and innovating the next thing and
moving on to the next piece of music and moving on to the next movie, not watching old black
and white movies and not listening to classical music.
American culture, and this is not just a vice, this is part of America's virtue as well,
is to see sunnier tomorrows and to reach for them.
And so I wonder, you know, in my mind, Douglas, at least.
least, you know, conversationally, when I think of revering age and wisdom, I think of Japan. And so
what I'm wondering is, is that still the case in places like Japan? Is that still the place in
some place like Vienna? Is that still the case in someplace like Italy? Or are they similar to
America now in revering youth? Well, everywhere is similar to America. I mean, American cultural
import goes everywhere. I understand that in country like Japan, that veneration of age still exists.
There certainly are societies in the world at the moment, which don't have a totally youth-orientated
idea. I actually tried this idea out recently on somebody I respect very much, who's in his
80s now, recently. And he was thinking about this problem. He said, well, I think, Douglas, actually,
the reason the adults disappeared was in the wake of Vietnam. And I thought it was very interesting.
man happened to have served in Vietnam. And he said, I just think we came back out of sort of,
out of exhausted, feeling lied to feeling like we failed. And then it was just like, I don't know,
let the kids have a go. And I thought there was a, there was a considerable truth in that.
And actually, you could look at the last 20 years in American politics and say something similar.
You know, when people criticize certain people on the Republican side in particular at the moment, you know, I always say, well, who are the older, why is the Republicans you want to go back to?
And actually, there is a missing generation there. I don't think many Republicans do want to hear all that much about foreign policy from people in charge of foreign policy in the 2000s, for instance.
So when somebody comes along with a shiny new idea, they get an awful lot more running
because the adults kind of let themselves and everyone else down.
It's a very long lag time on these things, isn't there, Will?
You know, and if you thought now in American politics, I mean, Democrats always like to
pretend that they like the last Republican who lost, you know, normally.
Or they do about 20 years later, don't they?
They say, oh, it's not like the, you know, the respectful days of George W. Bush and I remember what you guys were like during his day.
But, you know, and I remember what they were like during Reagan's day.
But they like to always, always play that game.
But actually, it is a challenge in American politics now and in the wider culture to say, who is it that we look back to and we do revere?
There are some sports heroes, but it's not an easy question to answer.
I'm just laughing because I was at a bar in New York City last weekend, Douglas.
And I guess this guy around the corner of the bar might have recognized who I was.
And this was on the Upper West Side of New York.
So, you know, the odds played into his favor that, yes, I was the outlier on the Upper West Side.
I was the Black Sheep.
And he was well folded into the flock.
He was a liberal.
And so he wanted to engage me.
But he did exactly what you just said.
It's not like the old days.
And I think he invoked Mitt Romney.
I think that's who he brought up.
I cannot remember.
But, you know, I was around.
was beginning this career, I was beginning in this career when they called Mitt Romney a racist
who attached his dog to the top of, to the top of his car and cut off some private school
friend's hair. You know, I remember when Mitt Romney was the worst man on earth. Yes. Do you think,
by the way, do you think 20 years from now they will say that? Will they do that with Trump?
Do you think we'll be sitting at a bar in 20 years and some liberal go? It's not like the old days,
you know, if you guys were still in the guys like Donald Trump, I would understand.
Something remarkable would have happened if that is the case in about 20 years of time.
Well, I don't expect that they'll ever concede that one.
I think things would have to really be extraordinary for that to happen.
But no, I mean, I'd actually take your point.
I get these guys all the time, you know.
It's not like the old days of John McCain, you know, it's not his Republican Party.
you go, I remember what you guys said about John McCain.
Right.
Yeah.
They're always very nice about conservative at their memorial service.
Okay, I want to offer you another correlation on where the adults went.
I'm not sure how much weight to give this, but it's something that I certainly believe I've noticed at the very least, anecdotally.
You know, there's a style of parenting that seems to have taken off over the past, oh, let's call it the last 20 years, where, and I don't know, maybe it's my generation of parenting, and that's why I've seen.
seen it so much, where it seems to be the goal of most of the parents to become friends with
their children. And even in terms of endearment, and I do some of this, I say, hey, buddy,
you know, to my boys. Now, I would suggest to the audience that my household more resembles a
1950s style of parenting than a 2023 style of parenting. But I don't think I'm part for the
course. I think a lot of people put their children on equal planes to them very quickly.
and give weight to their opinions very quickly that they are full of wisdom in some way
because they're unique individuals and their special flowers.
And I just wonder if that hasn't created a generation of people on both ends
who are deferential to the youth and on the other side entitled as the youth.
Absolutely.
And I mean, this idea that an idea or a concept must be of interest because it comes from a
child is not something I find persuasive, but a lot of people clearly do. And we have had a
massive sea change. I don't need to tell you well in recent years. The whole idea that, you know,
there's all this stuff that's rushing at parents of what the kids have absorbed at school
and, you know, all the kind of identity stuff that's thrown a lot of parents. A lot of parents
don't know what to do about that. And that, I've argued in previous books, partly comes out of this
movement of recent decades, a post-60s movement, really, which is that the child is formed
and knows itself, and you mustn't argue with the self. And this is, by the way, complete hoax.
The self that we have is constantly being negotiated. There is no intrinsic self.
of a child. A two-year-old doesn't just know itself and must just then be sort of encouraged
to keep being interested in itself. The child will change depending on the outside world
and the people around the child and the input that it gets. So there are these very strange
ideas that have caught root in recent decades, such as that idea that, you know, a child has
some kind of nascent knowledge and that the parent must kind of stand back in awe and see it
happen, no. Identity is negotiated. It is formed along the way. I don't want to get into the gender
nonsense because it's such a time waste. But that's, that, that, that has erupted from that,
you know, what does a 10-year-old know about themselves? Only what has been put into their
brain, only what they've absorbed from their environment. There's no, there's no, there's no
knowledge, you know, of the 10-year-old child. And we used to know that. There was a woody
Allen film called Everyone Says I Love You that came out about 20 years ago, and you could still
quote Woody Allen, and when he was still making vaguely watchable films, there's rather
sweet film where everyone starts to break into that classic song, I'm Through with Love,
and the sort of teenage boy starts to sing, I'm through with love, and the Woody Allen character
turns around and says, what do you know? You're 12. And there was a time where that was laughable,
and it's sort of not laughable now. Wait, I've got several curiosities I must follow. Let's do this
in quick fashion. What is Douglas Murray's
favorite movie? Oh,
that's so hard. As in
the movie, I like to see a lot.
I've seen many times.
Oh, almost anything by Merchant Ivory.
I think the remains of the day.
That's one of my... That's possibly
my favorite movie based on the
Kizu Ishiguru novel.
It's a beautiful performance by Antipal.
It's unbelievably beautiful film.
That sure shows the difference between us, because my answer
was the Big Lobowski.
And what's your
What's your favorite book, Douglas Murray?
My favorite book is almost what I said is also my favorite film, which is The Leopard by Giuseppe de Lampedusa, the great novel of a family in Italy sort of falling into, falling from grandeur to falling apart, and it was made into a great film starring a stunning Claudia Cardinali.
And so that it's one of the very few times when something that's my favorite book is almost.
is also my favorite film. The leopard is infinitely worth reading and ravishing to watch.
I've got to give more thought to my favorite book. At one time, I might have said the
Fountainhead. At another time, I might have said Lonesome Dove. I've got to give more thought
to my favorite book. And then do you watch contemporary television series shows, these big
serialized novelizations? Okay, so what is your favorite serialized television show?
Oh, I think that I, that's where I think the entertainment is, most movies I can't bear now, I find them so predictable and boring.
But all of that has got, all of that was in the movies is now in the great series.
I mean, from the wire and sopranos through Breaking Bad succession.
I mean, there's so many great, great serial shows.
And I think maybe the best of all in recent years has been.
Babylon, Berlin, which I was the most expensive ever made on German television.
I would say watch it, but you will lose the next 24 hours of your life because you won't be off the stock.
Oh, I'm so glad I pursued this line of question because I've never even heard of it.
Babylon, Berlin?
Babylon, Berlin is noir, dark murder mystery thing set in Weimar, Germany, and an amazing cast.
There's so much talent in these series, isn't there?
I mean, the acting is just through the roof, best.
than what you can find in most Hollywood films these days.
Okay, let's return back to this conversation about societal, cultural wisdom for a moment.
How do we reconcile that against, I don't know where you are on this topic,
but I've certainly come to believe that our government in the United States of America,
I can't speak to other Western societies, the UK.
But, I mean, it is populated by octogenarians who have well outworn their welcome.
and not just in in recognizability, but in frailty, in physical ability.
Obviously, we know that to be the case with Joe Biden.
Mitch McConnell has shown himself, I mean, he's got something going on.
I don't know what it is.
Diane Feinstein should not be in Congress.
Nancy Pelosi's going to run again at the age of 83.
And she, I will say Nancy Pelosi doesn't show problems with mental acuity, but still,
83 years old.
To me, by the way, just as a practical matter, Douglas, I'm in favor of term limits.
I think that solves itself on someone staying around until they should be in a nursing home.
But, you know, for me, it's not so much about age.
If you got elected for the first time at 76, you know, and served until you were 84 and you were mentally sharp, great.
But we do have a problem with, I think, too many old people in Congress.
How do you reconcile that against, if you agree with me, the need for me.
more wisdom, more age and more wisdom.
Well, by the way, these two things aren't mutually exclusive.
In fact, they reinforce each other.
If you've got a gerontocracy as your political class, those people are likely to be
bowing down to youth too much to try to compensate.
It's a form of overcompensation, like the white male CEO, like Tim Cook's just done it
at Apple, where you make an excruciating five-minute commercial about Mother Earth
and you just like flood the whole thing with large black women actors as if they're your workplace staff.
You know, if you're an aging white heterosexual male CEO like Tim Cook, you have to overdo that stuff.
So I think these two things actually sort of feed off each other.
The geotocracy in American politics is highly unusual.
And my own view, I expressed this actually just earlier today on outnumbered.
My own view is that there is a kind of cartel-like behavior, particularly among the Democrats on this, but I think it happens across the board.
Nobody in politics should be as rich as Nancy Pelosi has become from a life in politics.
And nobody should be as wealthy as Joe Biden has become from a life in politics and everyone around him.
And here's the thing is I think that's happened on both sides, although it seems to be more pronounced among the Democrats.
Democrats. But, you know, Will, not far from where we're sitting down in Wall Street, if you do
insider trading, you're going to go down. And there are very sophisticated systems to discover
insider trading. Why is the only place that inside trading is allowed, the Senate and Congress?
I cannot understand that. How can a senator drop a stock option just before a collapse
and make a whole heap of money.
And, well, I'm sorry, that's rotten.
That's really rotten.
So my own view is that the gerontocracy actually happens
because it's protecting itself.
There's just this class of people holding on
and they're going to hold on until the bitter end
because otherwise they know that the people coming up underneath them
might have quite a lot of questions to ask.
Well, you are exactly right.
Congressman Scott Perry said it the other day,
Tell me how Joe Biden has multiple millions of dollars based on a lifetime as a career as a U.S. Senator.
The math doesn't math.
And he's not alone.
There's so many.
And even for the ones that we don't know of who serve for a short amount of time, it's equally corrupt that they go immediately into a life of lobbying where they get completely rich while they're not in office.
This is a real deep-rooted corruption at the heart of our system.
You also wrote a column about setting aside.
or moving beyond our guilt complex, Douglas.
And here's, this is, I know what you're referencing.
I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about this sense of collective guilt for the sins of our past.
You know, I don't know.
I'm going to say some things out loud, and I don't know how they all fit together as sort of like America, the West, on its therapist's couch.
But, you know, I noticed this, I believe it was in the wake of Matt Walsh, the Daily Wire commentator,
talking about that woman who made a video a few weeks ago, talking about how she loved her
single life, that she didn't have children, that she was completely free to sleep in and watch
TV shows all day, and Matt Walsh had harsh, harsh judgment for her.
And then I think it was Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban that said, in rebuttal to him,
why are you filled with such hate?
We talked about it on Fox and Friends.
I think for many on the left, hate and judgment have become interchangeable concepts and
interchangeable words, that judgment is the same thing as hate. If you pass judgment on someone,
you have hated them, which, and I think that is completely false. You know, judgment is what
keeps us from eating poison. Judgment is how we raise our children. Judgment can be an act of love.
But I think kind of as part of that, as I'm on this therapist's couch with you, in some ways,
at least very much on an individual level, guilt is of use. Guilt is a course corrective on
behavior. But I think that you are pointing out that we have almost fetishized, I guess that's my
words, we have fetishized guilt collectively. Well, yes. I mean, my own view is that we have a very
strange guilt complex in Western societies these days, which is, again, like the youth of
such as very unnatural, both historically and in the world at the moment. If you go to Uganda or
Nigeria. They're not desperately looking over their past as slave-trading nations and kingdoms.
Not at all. They're trying to get on with things in the 21st century. It's only the West
that plays that strange historical guilt. I used to say it was about self-loving. But the truth
is that it's not among the people who practice it. The people who practice it are expressing a form
with extraordinary self-love.
They are deeply pleased with themselves for being the most self-phing.
They want you to be racked by guilt like them.
And because you're not, they're going to out-gilt you and show how much better than you are.
Right.
I mean, these are narcissists parading as guilt trippers.
Yes.
And the reason why there's a flaw in this, I wrote about this recently in the Australian,
because Australia has a very interesting vote coming up about various historical issues.
And I wrote there, you know, why does an Australian schoolchild in 2023 get invited in the sort of kindergarten age to write notes of apology to aboriginals?
What has the five-year-old in 2023 done, for goodness sake?
And the answer is nothing.
Nobody is alive who the harm was done by.
Nobody is alive who has been harmed.
The whole thing is a crock.
I believe it's the same case with the reparations shakedown in the US.
Nobody is alive who did the sin.
Nobody is alive who suffered the hurt.
Therefore, the whole thing is a crook.
And that's one of the roots of the problem going on at the moment, is I'm afraid not enough people are willing to say that.
It's say, I don't believe you when you say, I am suffused with guilt, and we are all suffused by guilt.
No, you want me to be suffused by guilt so that I pipe.
You want to be filled with self-love and congratulations so you can pipe up.
And I don't accept that.
It's not as I described it, you know, this like societal opus day, of course, corrective behavior, where we self-flatism
to get past our past sins. It's that they're offering to hold the whip for you. I will flagellate you
and help you through your guilt. I will help you as your savior. As I always say, I think there's a,
there's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm told that the, the pro, a great problem for masochists is
what happens if they meet a real sadists. And, uh, the western massacists in recent years have
discovered an awfully large number of sadists on the international and national stage who are
willing to say, oh, you're willing to talk yourself down and hate yourself and talk down your
society? Great. We would like that too. Can you imagine if the reparations bargain was struck?
We accept your premise. Let's arrive at the negotiation table. Is there a meeting of the minds?
Is there a deal to be struck that puts the grievance behind us in the past? I think you and I both
know the answer to that. But wouldn't it be an interesting test case? And then while we're at the
negotiating table, let's settle all claims. Let us provide reparations across the globe, across
borders for everyone who has a historical claim of oppression. And we will all do a quick
shuffling of the dominoes, shuffling of the money. And afterwards, everyone get on with it and do
your best. Yeah. I mean, as I always say, I could end the reprimos.
thing in one afternoon of tin rattling in New York alone.
Italian Americans had a very bad deal in the 19th century.
Why don't we do a whip-around of everyone, including in Brooklyn and Queens and everywhere else,
and give a whole pile of cash to anyone who can prove they're of Italian descent?
Do you want to do that?
I don't.
We need a big whip-around for the million or so white Europeans who were stolen by North Africans
during the Barbie Pirates era.
we definitely need to go and get money from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and elsewhere and do a shakedown of current North Africans and give that money to southern Mediterranean Europeans and indeed the people from the coastlines of Britain who were stolen.
I think that probably the most beleaguered people in history who've suffered the most of the Jews, should we do a whip around around America and take money from everybody?
in the country and
hand it over to everyone who's Jewish.
I think all of this
is an ethical nightmare. It's an
obvious nonsense. And in
the case of America, it's obviously
unworkable. I love Dave Chappelle's
observation that if reparations were
ever given by shares in
Nike, because
there's going to be a big
shopping spree down
there after the
reparations. I hand it out.
He can make that joke. I couldn't
Possibly. But, I mean, everybody knows this is nonsense. Can you imagine how divisive this would be in black communities in America?
We'd have to, communities remember that Kamala Harris told us that the last election can't use a Xerox machine.
Do you remember she said that you can't get ID with a lot of guys, a lot of people in the black community don't have access to a photocopying machine?
Nevertheless, we're going to do a massive DNA trawl and work out precisely who was descended from slaves, who was descendants.
descended from slavers, who was descended from a bit of both or all of the above.
We're going to do a massive DNA troll and then work out the money distribution based.
If you think that's going to happen, I've got a bridge to sell you because that is the most
fantastical and unlikely thing ever.
And even Gavin Newsom of California, when he set that racket, that inquiry going, and they came
back and said something like every black person in California should be given about, I know,
what was it, $22 billion or something, even Gavin Newsom sort of started to step away and
realized maybe this wasn't going to work.
Yeah, down to the individual level, to your point, you find out that not only are you
not eligible for reparations, but that you, and going around this world, considering
yourself self-identifying as black, you're not only not eligible for reparations.
You owe reparations, of course, because you have lineage, you have DNA that can
next you to slave owners sometime back.
I mean, how do you unsort this deck of cards?
Absolutely.
You remember that Angela Davis quote recently?
Did you see that?
Yes.
Remember when she, having spent her whole life expecting reparations,
she does that program and she discovers that she was descended from somebody
who came over on the Mayflower.
There was a time when people were rather proud to be descended from somebody who
came over on the Mayflower.
For Angela Davis, former Black Panther, et cetera, et cetera, it was absolutely devastating.
She believed she was 100% victim, and suddenly she turned out not to be 100% victim.
She turned out to be some percentage victimizer, to use her own terminology.
So Angela Davis probably now actually owes money in reparations since that DNA test, that ancestry test.
It went very badly for her, and I think it'll go very badly for a lot of other people,
which is just one of many reasons why I don't think it should be done.
All right, let's end this conversation, bringing it.
back to where we started. Let's talk again for a moment about youth and wisdom. And my question
for you is to go back to that, not just global, but historical context. You talked about how
unique this is for us to embrace youth, to reject wisdom. I'm curious if it doesn't, though,
have precedent in history, that it hasn't been done before. And most notably, whenever we look
at revolutionary circumstances, I can't speak to the French Revolution, but I can, I think,
speak to the Chinese cultural revolution. And was that not an embrace of the youth? It was taught
in the schools, and it turned the young against the old in that time. And I just wonder if maybe
what we should be looking at is not so much this scary we've never been here before, but in fact
a scary we have been here before. Well, that's very interesting. Yes, and the French Revolution
had its different origins. But I think you could certainly say the Chinese cultural revolution
was an attempt to completely rewire the brains of everyone in China, and of course it didn't work
and cause an untold amount of misery, human suffering and death. Probably Chairman Mao is responsible
for more deaths than anyone in the 20th century, which means almost anyone apart from Genghis Khan,
I think it's 60 million people, Chairman Mao is responsible for killing, which makes even
Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler look smaller by comparison. I mean, it's unbelievable.
what Mao tried to do
and the brutality with which he did it
and of course it didn't work
I mean we do know from the French Revolution
among others that you can't start
from year zero you know I mean that was
what
that was what Robespierre and co-thought
was going to happen they thought that you could
start the world anew and
you couldn't you never can
and all revolutionary moments
in my view has been that for the last few years
in America we've been in such a moment
It's thankfully less bloody than some previous cultural revolutions, but it won't necessarily
always be.
It's extremely dangerous to allow revolutionary thinkers to rush unhindered through your
schoolyards and your teaching rooms and much more, because almost everything they say not
only is unworkable, but provably unworkable, and will only leave.
to far, far more misery.
And that's one of the reasons why I'm particularly suspicious
of the people leading the current cultural revolution.
And I've said this many times,
but the main leaders of it in America
will not debate their ideas.
And that is a sign not just of somebody
who has a weak idea,
but of a true totalitarian,
because they know that if you allow any challenge to the ideas,
the ideas might not stand up
and then the revolution will fail.
It doesn't require,
and we know this from the,
Russian Revolution as well. It doesn't require many people to be dedicated revolutionaries
for this whole society to be taken over by a basilis of an idea. And that's something that
some people in America are trying. Thankfully, so far, there are enough people with sense in
America to push back. And at that point, I have to say, first and foremost, a shout out to
American parents because they are the heroes of recent years who have just stood up in county
after county in this country and said, no, I don't like what my child's being taught. They have
been defamed. They have sometimes been arrested. But a huge amount of credit and shout out needs
to go to ordinary parents in this country who know in their bones that this revolution is rotten.
Douglas Murray, always fun, always enlightening. Thank you for your time.
Such a great pleasure.
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He and I broke out some of the games I'm most interested in this weekend.
We took a moment, we took a moment to celebrate and contextualize.
What does it mean that Texas is back, that Texas beat Alabama,
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Here is Chris Felica, the bear.
Chris Felica Bear of Bear bets.
We did it, Bear.
We did it.
Texas is back.
You predicted it.
I lived it.
The Texas Longhorns defeated the Alabama Crimson Tide.
This is not the major topic for you and I today as we go through games going into week three.
But come on.
How huge is that win, Bear?
It was massive, and it opens up all.
sorts of doors for Texas. And I think the first thing to say is it was not a flukish type
wing. Texas was the better team. I don't think it was ever debatable from the time they
kicked it off. They had the better quarterback. They got the better set of receivers. They got
the better front seven on defense, offensive line play. And it was not a fluke. And it opens up
not only a national college football playoff berth potentially, but in maybe even a trip to
New York for the Heism trophy ceremony for Quinn Eurs. But no, they were they were the
better team and for all of the people like myself who they weren't all the way in yet they kind
of had a feeling this year might be different now i think there is no uh question that that texas
is a legitimate national title contender this year do you think it opens up one more door and
and this is where everyone everyone usually not me gets way ahead of their skis a win like that
does have the ability to shift the recruiting landscape maybe not seismically but margin
And the question that people are asking, and some are beginning to answer, is, does this win actually mark a change of college football?
Does it set Texas up for a sustained run?
I know that's incredibly presumptuous to say the way Texas has played over the last 13 years.
But they do seem to have a foundation now.
That was a huge win.
And at the same time, does it begin to signify the end of Alabama?
Now, I am not the person that wants to ring that bell early.
That's like the guy that wants to say Tom Brady is going over the cliff.
That's your take.
That's not my take.
I'll be the last one out the door.
But I was reading some of this.
It's not about Sabin and it's not about Alabama.
Nobody does that for as long as they did that.
You just don't put recruiting class after recruiting class together, Bear, and hit.
You start missing.
You know, when Texas went down, they were still getting top recruiting classes,
but they were missing on player evaluations or player development.
Do you think there's a bigger shifting of the sands here?
Perhaps Texas rising, but more importantly, Alabama falling.
Yeah, I'm not in the Alabama falling.
I do think maybe they missed on some guys.
I mean, they had a – look, they left themselves empty at the quarterback position this year
with the departure of Bryce Young.
Milro is not the guy that maybe they thought he was.
The freshman came in and weren't ready to play right off the bat.
I do think the shift and the implications will be massive in the state of Texas, though.
I think if you look at what Texas did on Saturday night with a big win at Alabama, contrast that with what happened in South Florida, with A&M getting absolutely blown out by Miami, having nearly 50 points hung up, like that stuff matters in the recruiting wars.
And for a while, the A&M rather, had that SEC card to play in terms of come play on the SEC.
You can still come to Texas, stay in Texas, but you're going to play in the SEC.
That's obviously no longer there.
And the trajectory of the A&M program, not really able to take off the way that a lot of people thought they might be able to.
But in the state of Texas, I think I'd say a massive deal now for Texas as they head into the SEC.
And I know they were secretly very happy with what happened in South Florida as well, with the Aggies going down.
All right.
Let's talk about, I want to do three college football games, three pro football games,
you this week going into week two of the NFL and week three of college football.
Week three of college football, kind of a weird week.
It's like the week that everybody takes off.
There's not very many headline games.
People load up week one or week two.
As I looked at the slate, I would tell you, the game that I found most interesting outside
of course caring about my own personal allegiances like Texas versus Wyoming.
But one where I don't have an affiliation is probably Florida versus Tennessee.
Florida at Tennessee.
Florida is getting seven bear.
Two questions for you. Who do you like there? And is that, am I right? Is that sort of the best game we have this weekend?
Traditionally, I mean, this used to be a game that had national title and SEC title implications all along.
And after how the Gators looked in Utah in week one, you've got to wonder about where the Gators are right now.
But it's interesting. In a game like that, I think we've seen Tennessee, they weren't great at all against Austin P. earlier in this season.
I think Joe Milton is certainly a guy who has a huge arm,
but I don't think he has the same catchable ball like Hendon Hooker did.
I would lean towards taking the Gators.
Now you're at home.
Your SEC opener, it's a chance to kind of write the wrongs of what happened in Utah,
week one.
I know it's hard to kind of get behind Graham Mertz.
A guy has had a lot of chances and never really seemed to make that late.
But I think the Gators would be the play here.
It's interesting because if you look around the country this week,
there are, like you said, there aren't a.
ton of great games. But I kind of clumped four games together into one little category.
You've got the Tennessee, Florida game, you've got Florida State at BC, you've got Penn State
and you have LSU of Mississippi State. They are all touchdown favorites, ranked teams on
the road as a touchdown favorite against an unranked conference opponent on the road.
So we think these teams should go on the road and win because they're a big favorite and
the home team has seen perceived as down but would not surprise me at all to see at least one
maybe two of those home underdogs really give their their ranked opponents of problems here
it's still college football and pretty much anything can happen in any given week the other two
games that i will probably watching or at least keeping up with when it's going down on saturday i don't
even know why but b yu arkansas is of some interest to me b yu arkansas's cc b yu's coming over to
the big 12. I just kind of want to see that power, that soon-to-be Power 5 matchup. And then Washington
against Michigan State, at Michigan State, with Mel Tucker going through what he's going
through. He won't be on the sidelines. And so that's interesting. But the rest of the country,
the truth is, both both college game day and Big Noon kickoff, everybody's in Colorado.
And that's all anybody cares about. It's Deon. It's Colorado, Colorado State.
Yeah, that Washington Michigan State game is very interesting as well
because this was kind of the game last year
where it all really started unraveling for Michigan State.
They went up to Seattle and got absolutely blown out by the Huskies.
And I think if UW is the team that a lot of people think that they are with Pennix
and those receivers in that defensive front, they'll go to East Lansing,
they'll have no problem with Michigan State.
But you're right with Colorado.
It's an amazing thing.
where something that had never been done before,
you get a win as a 21-point dog against TCU.
You have an unbelievable second half last week against Nebraska.
And now here you are, you're 2-0.
You've got Colorado State coming in,
and you're going to be 3-0.
And in the betting world,
I pose this question to a bunch of people today so far,
like, is there still a bet that you could potentially make on Colorado,
whether it's this week on Colorado State
and maybe kind of a sandwich spot?
out for CU is they had the game against Nebraska last week and then they have your game at
Oregon next week. Is it a season win total? Is it something that maybe like Dionne Sanders to win
coach of the year? Like if CU goes from 1 and 11 to going 6 and 6 or 7 and 5, like I would think
he'd be live to win that award. I know normally it takes 9 or 10 wins to win an award like that
if I can actually get the words out of my mouth today.
But to go from 1 and 11 to 6 and 6 or 7 and 5 and kind of be the talk of college football,
I would think he would be alive.
So I expect C.U. to win big against Rams this weekend.
What's Colorado's going to get in?
It's 23 right now, which seems like a lot of points.
And normally a lot of people would take those points.
But I don't think Colorado, this team, this bunch of guys and Deanna and that staff are wired this way.
There's no like, oh, we got to beat the boys for 4.
Collins, a big state right now.
They don't care. I think they want to put up a big number
and go into Eugene next week with a lot
of confidence. Somewhere the hype catches
up, though, and it's good to take the points.
I don't know when. I don't know if it's this weekend.
Maybe next week. Yeah, maybe
next week. I recognize
this is not the 111 team. It's literally not the same
roster. So we don't really know what we're dealing
with here in Colorado, but we do
know we're dealing with a lot of hype.
Let's go over to the NFL. You're also covering
that on Bear Betts podcast.
You're doing NFL picks as well.
I've got three games that I'm interested in.
It's only week two.
But, you know, here's the first game that has my attention there.
It's Vikings at Eagles, both good teams last year.
The Eagles are favored by seven at home.
Patriots are really good.
They're always a good team.
When I say really good, I mean, you should take a victory over the Patriots in Foxborough
seriously, I think.
So I don't deduct points.
points from the Eagles for how tight that game was last week.
But I also think the Vikings are good.
And so that's a lot of points to give the Vikings.
It is.
And if you look at the box score in that game, the Vikings' bucks game from week one,
the Vikings should have won the game.
It's really amazing that they didn't.
And you're getting six points now against a team.
But the Eagles last year, a lot of people pointed towards everyone was healthy.
they didn't have any any adversity like and after one game you've got what necobie dean out
for a while bradbury the defense aback uh is out and certainly that's a problem with uh with justin
jefferson and kirk cousins like i would be inclined to agree with you well in taking the points here
i i thought this was going to be a little bit of a russian type season for the eagles and uh
they look they won a road game against a very good team uh you got to give them credit for that but now
you're like you said, laying close to a touchdown here at home against a team that's
certainly capable of putting up points, a playoff team from last year that could potentially
start Owen 2, that's certainly an angle that I think is worth looking at.
All right, Seahawks, Lions. I've got five and a half. I don't know what your lines show,
but it's Lions laying five and a half at home. I think, yeah, it's at home in Detroit.
And the big question for everybody is how real is Detroit. I now hear Detroit, Bear,
I'm hearing Detroit mentioned in the same breath as San Francisco, as Philadelphia,
Philadelphia, and Dallas.
And so I'm hearing people talk about Detroit as one of the top teams in the NFC.
I'm pumping those breaks.
And I think this is an interesting, I think what they did go in to Kansas City and winning was great.
But at the same time, this is a very dangerous game, I think, for the Lions, because a lot of people now are expecting you to be that team.
And if you like Seattle in this game, you probably just want to wait it out a little bit,
I think this number is going to touch six or six and a half, especially with the way Seattle looked last week, especially in the secondary against the Rams.
You lost both of your offensive tackles in the game.
Gino Smith looked terrible at one point in the second half.
I think the total yardage was like 259 to three or something along those lines.
But now as a big home favorite against the game back against the wall, playoff team from last year, potentially could start O.N. 2.
So much hype with the Lions.
If you're on the fence and you're thinking about taking Seattle,
you might just want to sit back and wait because, like I said,
I think you're going to get a better number as we get closer to Sunday.
I think the lion should win, but I'd be very, very hesitant to lay those points.
Okay, finally, how bad are the Bengals?
They're still favored by three points at home.
Ravens are coming in, and I don't know what to make of the Bengals right now,
but I don't know that I feel confident enough in them right now to lay three points against the Ravens.
Yeah, I actually do.
I actually like the Bengals in this game.
I think losing J.K. Dobbins is a big deal.
I think Lamar is still kind of working his way into that offense.
They won, but they weren't great against Houston.
Now, you don't want to overreact from week one to week two.
But I think it wasn't as, I loved the Browns last week.
That was my best bet, and unfortunately, it got there.
I expected that type of performance from Cleveland.
And I think anytime you look at Joe Burrow, who didn't play in the, in the previous,
season. So many of their starters didn't play in the preseason. And now you had a new secondary
breaking in a new corner, a couple of new safeties. That all matters. Their offensive line
did struggle. But I think coming home here, and I maybe people think sometimes I maybe read
a little too much into what the number is. And the fact that it's north of the field goal,
it's three and a half, that tells me that the Vegas odds makers are,
are basically going into the game, being okay with people taking in Baltimore and say,
okay, if the Ravens lose by a field goal, you'll win.
Like, I think that number being north of three tells me that they think the Bengals are
the right side and that after a week of play and finally getting his feet wet and game action
that borough and that Bengals offense will certainly be better.
So I would, I would lean towards taking the Bengals here.
I like that stuff.
That's the good stuff.
I want to know what Vegas is thinking.
You just swung me.
Okay.
I'm on the Bengals.
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All right, Bear, thank you, man.
We'll check you out, Bear Betts.
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