Will Cain Country - Is FLOTUS Jill Biden In Charge Of The Nuclear Football After 8pm?
Episode Date: July 10, 2024Story #1: Given President Biden's obvious cognitive decline, who has their hands on the nuclear football now? Who will have it for the next four years? Story #2: A Monthly Mailbag of your questions... with Outkick Columnist Bobby Burack. Plus, Bobby shares that environmentalists are ignoring our AI energy problems. Story #3: Former President Donald Trump challenges President Biden to a golf match and offers him 10 strokes per 9. Would Will beat Biden? Who at FOX News could give Trump a run for his money? Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing WillCainShow@fox.com Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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One, who's got their hands on the nuclear football?
Now, who will have their hands on the nuclear football?
football for the next four years.
Two, monthly mailbag with outkicks, Bobby Burag.
Three, Trump offers Biden ten strokes aside.
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Could I beat Joe Biden at golf?
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Peter Ducey yesterday painted a pretty visual image about the dire national security risk
that is represented by a president who has to sign off by 8 p.m.,
who has a good six hours of lucidity.
Peter Ducey asked the following to White House press secretary, Corrine Jean-Pierre.
So say that the Pentagon at some point picks up an incoming nuke.
It's 11 p.m.
Who do you call the First Lady?
He has a team that lets him know of any news that is pertinent and important to the American people.
He has someone that is decided, obviously, with his National Security Council and who gets to tell him that news.
So Kevin McCarthy just said that when he was the Speaker, many times when we had meetings in the Oval Office, Jill was there as well.
When the First Lady is in these meetings, is she making decisions or is she just advising?
the president? No, the president is the president of the United States. He makes decisions.
So who has their hands on the nuclear football? Is it in fact the first lady of the United States?
And more importantly, who will have their hands on the nuclear football for the next four years?
Let's get into that with story number one.
It is a clear national security risk for the president of the United States to be senile.
It is a clear national security risk for the President of the United States to need 16 hours of sleep.
It's a clear national security risk if the President of the United States requires performance-enhancing drugs to be at the top of his game.
It's a clear national security risk if the President can not only fail to complete sentences but fail to form complete thoughts.
It is a clear national security risk if the President of the United States has Parkinson's.
I discussed this last Friday night while filling in on Jesse Water,
prime time with former Trump administration official Victoria Coates.
I only have like a minute left here, Victoria, but I guess I'm just kind of curious about
the mechanics.
The phone rings in the middle of the night.
There's an international crisis, or it doesn't even have to be the middle of the night,
as can be clear.
It could just be after dinner.
And Joe can't make a quick decision.
So who runs the American response to an international crisis?
That's what we're all very concerned about.
I guess right now it's Dr. Jill or it's Hunter.
Biden. And I never saw this with President Trump. He was always available for us. And this is just,
this is deeply dangerous for the American people. Hunter Biden is making the call on, on decisions
that could end up in world or nuclear war. Hunter Biden. Rest easy, America and have a happy
independence day. Do I need ghost riding credit on Peter Ducey's questions to Corrine Jean-Pierre?
That was three days before. And that was uncanny.
Canny, Two a Days, Young Establishment, James, is there some royalty payment that I've missed out on?
Was that not three days ahead of time?
Somebody get Ducey on the phone.
I need to find out, two a days.
Was he watching Jesse Waters' prime time?
He must have been.
I think so.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, is right on the money, right on time.
Had to have been.
I didn't even know that before we're going to play that clip.
Get Ducy on the phone.
What's going on here?
We should.
I feel like that deserved in the gallery,
as asked by my colleague Will Kane.
It was implied.
Does Hunter Biden control the nuclear football?
Here's the thing about when I said that on Friday night.
When I said that on Friday night, as you saw,
if you're watching us today on YouTube or Facebook,
a little graphic came up, decoding Fox News.
Now, this is probably something my bosses won't want me to even acknowledge.
but there's an ecosystem of trolls that basically, I don't know if they are paid
or if they sit around with Cheeto Dust on their bellies,
hate watching Fox News.
And then posting that, and by the way, I don't care if you're male or female.
I know you have Cheeto Dust on your bellies.
As you hate watch Fox News and post stuff onto the internet.
But this account, which I'm sure my bosses don't want me to even acknowledge,
decoding Fox News, took that little clip of me wondering,
or not Hunter Biden has his hands on the nuclear football and posted the following. They basically
acted like this is the height of irresponsible journalism. The coding Fox News says Victoria Coates
and Will Kane, Victoria Coates and Will Kane imply Jill Biden and Hunter Biden are running
the country. Will Kane says Hunter Biden is making decisions about nukes and in the comments
from the likes of people with a handle entitled Resist say things like
they can barely keep a straight face at their own lies.
Now, the only reason I bring up a troll account entitled Decoding Fox News
is because it illustrates the delusion.
And if I want to be more charitable, the two separate worlds that we might be living in.
But I happen to think it's more than just two separate worlds.
I think it's delusion.
And if it's not delusion, which again is probably more charitable
because it insinuates an earnest lack of sanity?
If it's not delusion, it's pure propaganda, dangerous.
National security compromising propaganda in order to prop up a weakened at Bernie's corpse running the United States of America,
a clear national security threat.
When Peter Ducey, neglecting to credit Will Cain, asked that question to Korean Jean-Pierre,
the Internet got to work.
And like one of the left's biggest influencer accounts on X, the Krasenstein twins, I don't know if I'm saying their names, I don't know if they're Siamese, I don't know if they're connected to neck or the hip. And I don't know which one I'm talking about. But there's some twins, Krasenstein, who post a lot of stuff on X. They posted Duce's question and said, this is not journalism, this is pure engagement farming.
Do you really believe that, Krasenstein?
Do you live in that delusional world that you do not think it's a legitimate question?
Who's controlling the national response to a crisis, including potentially a nuclear crisis from the Oval Office?
Do you not wonder if Jill Biden is calling the shots on who's running for president, whether or not she's calling the shots on a response to a national security threat?
And by the way, if not, Jill Biden.
Biden, one of the biggest apparently reported across the media landscape, influences on Joe Biden is now his son, Hunter Biden.
And so I'll admit to you, while I made that the most hyperbolic entertaining possible scenarios, they're not unrealistic.
They're journalistically sound.
More than that, they're necessary questions for the national security of the United States.
who has their hands on the nuclear football?
And more importantly, who's going to have their hands on the nuclear football for the next four years?
Last week, that very same Friday that I asked that question of Victoria Coates,
George Stephanopoulos of ABC sat down with President Biden.
20 minutes, that interview aired.
Presumably, there was five to ten minutes at the front and back into that interview.
of interaction between Stephanopoulos and Biden.
And this courtesy of TMZ on the street where a paparazzi encounters George Stephanoplas
tells you all you need to know about the capabilities of who should be handling the nuclear
football for the next four years.
Hey, Susan, hey, how you doing?
What do you think?
Do you think Biden should step down?
You talk to them more than anybody else have lately, and you can be honest.
You don't think you can start four more ears?
All right.
That's an answer.
That's George Stephanopoulos, looking like he's coming home from a jog in Central Park.
He's wearing black workout shorts, black running shoes, navy, athletic top, headphones,
looking at his phone when he's encountered by a paparazzi.
By the way, I don't know why I described his workout gear in such detail.
Maybe because it actually reminds me my own.
I like dark colors when I work out.
Come on with the white Nike pro-combat shirt.
What the dark colors.
Just look better in the gym mirror.
I'm down.
I know what you're talking about, Stephanopoulos.
I also know what you're talking about when you say.
I don't think he can serve for the next four years.
I think we all know that.
And here, by the way, is someone that's not just a quote-unquote mainstream media journalist.
But it's been pointed out by our guests coming up a little bit later on the Will Cane show today.
Outkicks Bobby Burrack.
is one of the central mouthpieces for the Democratic Party, was in the 1990s for Bill Clinton,
and presumably still has those kind of relationships where he can echo the thoughts of the Democratic
Party at large. I do not think he can serve for another four years. Now, that to me is the most
important headline because that is about the national security of the United States. But
the Democratic Party is turning away, increasingly from Joe Biden when it comes to his
electability. Now here is Colorado Senator Michael Bennett, who is joined by several other senators
in saying they didn't think Joe Biden could beat Donald Trump. He apparently had set it behind
closed doors, as reported by CNN's Dana Bash. So he thought, oh, well, let her rip, boys. So we went
on to CNN and set it with his chest. My colleague Dana Bash reported that you,
Senator John Tester and Senator Sherrod Brown, all said during that lunch that you don't think
President Biden can win in 2024. Is that true?
Well, it's true that I said that. And I did say that behind closed doors.
And you guys and others asked whether I had said it. And that is what I said.
So I figured I should come here and say it publicly.
Why do you think he can't win in November?
I just think this race is on a trajectory that is very worrisome if you care about the future of this country.
Joe Biden was nine points up at this time. The last time he was running.
Hillary Clinton was five points up. This is the first time in more than 20 years that a Republican
president has been up in this part of the campaign. Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this
election and maybe win it by a landslide and take with him the Senate and the House.
Donald Trump is on track. According to Democratic Senator Michael Bennett of Colorado,
on track to win this election and maybe by a landslide. He said that Joe Biden was up by nine points
at this point in 2020, and Hillary Clinton was up by five points at this point in 2016.
So let's look in to where we are now.
This is polling, according to real clear politics that shows the state of the race today.
Let's share this with our audience watching on YouTube, and I will give you the numbers
for those listening on podcast or terrestrial radio.
A general election.
Trump versus Biden, versus Kennedy, versus Cornell West, versus Jill Stein.
that potentially sits on a ballot, state to state.
And a poll conducted by Emerson nationwide, Trump up four points.
How about a general election, Trump versus Biden, still Emerson, but just Trump and Biden.
Trump up three points.
By the way, if you're curious about replacing Donald Trump, Trump versus Kamala Harris,
Trump up six points, still in Emerson poll at Real Clear Politics.
Another Emerson poll up at RCP.
How about Trump versus California Governor Gavin Newsom?
Trump up eight points.
What about another name?
Bandied about.
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, according to Emerson, Trump up 10 points against Gretchen Whitmer.
Okay, those are national polls.
What's more important is how you do in those swing states.
Let's take a look at that.
These are all again, according to a recent Emerson poll up at Real Clear Politics.
Arizona. Trump versus Biden. Trump up four points. Georgia. Trump versus Biden. Trump up five points. Michigan, one of the hardest swing states to win. Trump up a point. Nevada, Trump versus Biden. Trump up six. Pennsylvania. Trump versus Biden. Trump up five. Wisconsin. Trump versus Biden. Trump up three. State to state. Swing state to swing state.
National polling
echoes what was just said there by Colorado Senator Michael Bennett.
But again, that's not the most important thing.
The most important thing is not who can win an election,
but who can actually run the United States?
Because it appears, despite this polling,
that the Democrats are going to stick with Joe Biden.
Take a look at the betting markets right now.
And right now, according to Polly Market,
Joe Biden has a 63% chance to be the Democratic nominee in 2024.
Kamala Harris, just a 26% on being the Democratic nominee.
But what we're really voting on is whether or not we want Kamala Harris to control
the nuclear football for the next four years.
Because there's just no way, honestly, that George Stephanopoulos is wrong,
that he can make it another four years, Joe Biden.
And if you don't want to listen to me about that,
I want you to listen to this interview.
This was on NBC.
This was a neurologist, a doctor that seems to know something about Parkinson's.
Now, I want you to listen.
This is a long clip, okay?
It's over two minutes.
But I want you to listen to this.
I want you to listen to the interview, go back and forth because the NBC anchor tries to push back on this doctor.
This doctor in the clip, as you'll listen, says he's a Democrat.
and he tells you why he is diagnosing Joe Biden from afar,
how easy it is to diagnose Joe Biden,
and why he thinks it's so important to tell the truth.
This is an astounding three minutes on NBC.
You noticed anything that gives you a red flag as a doctor?
Oh, yeah, I see him 20 times a day in clinic.
I mean, it's ironic because he has just classic features of neurodegeneration.
I mean, word finding difficulties, and that's not, oh, I couldn't find the word.
That's from degeneration of the word retrieval area.
He's also overcome stuttering, though.
Could that be part of that, too?
No, this is not a palatal issue or a speech discrepancy,
which is very different from a lemono dysfunction,
actual word retrieval, where you pick a similar question or talk around the issue,
plus the rigidity, monotone voice.
Wait, go back to that, the rigidity.
What do you mean?
Rigidity, loss of arm swing, standing up lordatically.
You notice when he turns, it's kind of end block turning.
It's not a quick turn.
So that's one of the hallmarks of Parkinsonism is rigidity and bradycannesia, slow movement.
And he has that hallmark, especially with the low voices that said was a cold hypophonia.
A small, monotone voice like this over time is a hallmark of Parkinsonism.
I could have diagnosed him from across the mall.
Here are some of the symptoms from Parkinson's.
We just had him up there on the screen.
If we can put him back, what about the movement?
Some people have pointed out the way he walk sometimes.
It's not very fast.
Is that something that is common in people who are battling a disease like Parkinson?
Yeah, it's a hallmark shuffling gate, we call that, so little steps,
loss of arms swing from the rigidity.
When we walk, we have a nice cadence.
You notice he doesn't really swing his arms.
And end block turning, meaning he kind of pivots around his foot.
If you said, hey, President Biden, he wouldn't go like this.
But I also know, I also don't tell me if I'm wrong here, it's very hard to diagnose Parkinson's, isn't it?
It's not simple.
I mean, I've heard that it can be.
It's one of the easier movement disorders to diagnose, actually, but it's so clinic.
There's very little others, and I'm a Democrat, I always say, about this.
Right.
It's just like, this guy is not a hard case.
But I've had relatives who have gone through issues, neurological issues, and I've heard
that sometimes Parkinson's is not very easy to nail.
You have to take a lot of tests.
There's what, I mean.
It's early on, if you're just present with, like, hallucinations, that could be a variety
of things, or just the cognitive problems.
That could be Alzheimer's versus Parkinsonism, and that becomes a little nebulous.
But once you start manifesting the hallmark motor symptoms, slow movement, rigidity, mass facies, hypophonia.
I mean, if a med student did not pick Parkinson's on the test, they'd be remediated.
Let me ask you're a Democrat, you're a doctor.
You sound like you're frustrated with what the White House is saying.
Yeah.
Why?
Well, because, you know, I'm an American before everything.
And I look at it and say, when I used to see Russia, Soviet Union, North Korea, when they just make outrageous things.
You know, like when North Korea can't keep the lights on and they say, oh, you know, it was some faulty power.
thing i kind of hate that kind of stuff that four years my own party had four years to find you know
this was a of a wreck in slow motion and they had four years to find out of 350 americans
one person that could take the place and here we are the day before school trying to do the
homework and replace a guy who's got a neurodegenerative disease dr pitt just a stunning
stunning in that a stark truth laid bare on the table
attempted to be rejected like a snooty customer sending back a meal,
but the waiter says, sir, this is what you ordered.
Stunning in that it's stark obviousness as it sits on the table,
a diagnosis of Joe Biden.
Did you think that description was vivid?
Evil likes my vivid descriptions.
I'm just reading a comment on YouTube.
Hey, Will, can you describe Stephanopoul's outfit a little more?
You're welcome, EVL.
and left-handed says, I love dark colors too, L-O-L.
High-five, left-handed.
We both like dark colors.
That doctor on NBC said the following.
I could diagnose him across the mall.
It's one of the easier diagnoses.
Not a hard case.
You should have seen his face if you're listening on radio or on podcast.
When the anchor attempt to say, isn't it, you know,
Isn't it hard to diagnose Parkinson's?
Audibly, you might have heard him go,
eh.
His face made the upside-down smile thing,
raised his eyebrows, and looked to the side like,
nope.
I could diagnose him across the mall.
He says, and he gives you the symptoms,
all of which fit Joe Biden to a T,
trouble-finding words, word retrieval.
But don't you think it's stuttering?
One of the biggest North Korea-style propaganda attempts
over the past several years.
He's got a stutter.
He said, no, it's not a stuttering problem.
It's a word retrieval problem.
Rigidity, the lack of an arm swing, the mask on his face, monotone, small, low voice.
It's all Joe Biden.
And why is this guy who says he is a Democrat telling you the truth?
Sir, this is what you ordered?
This is your president?
Because he said, I don't want to live in North Korea when they run a propaganda machine to tell you not just a lie or to hide.
from you the truth, but to ensure that they tell you a lie. He said, because before I'm a Democrat,
I'm an American. So, to answer our question, who controls the nuclear football now? It looks like
the First Lady of the United States. And who is to control the nuclear football for the next four
years? Well, if you elect Joe Biden, it looks like the answer would be Vice President Kamala Harris.
Let's break all this down, plus a monthly mailbag with Outkicks Bobby Burrack next on the Will Cain Show.
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The Ridge on YouTube says,
I have been thinking since the rally last night,
Trump will still be Biden at golf, even if they play Wii golf.
That I read that right, two days?
Is the Ridge saying that Trump could,
beat Biden even at Wii golf?
Yeah, that's exactly what you're saying.
We golf, that would be fun to watch, actually.
I disagree.
That would be boring.
But, Bryson D. Chambot has offered up his YouTube channel as a Trump versus Biden
golf extravaganza, which I might tune in for.
And by the way, who has a Wii with NCAA College, EA NCAA College Football 25 coming out?
We had a pre-show debate about whether or not you are a PlayStation or
Xbox, dude. We're going to have to figure that out soon because I do think I'm going to buy
NCAA EA's college football game 2025. I'll add that to my rotation, making it two video
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He's a friend of the Willcane show, and he is Bobby Burrack. What's up, man?
Will, happy to be here.
I enjoyed the monologue on Stephanopoulos's outfit.
That was pretty well done.
Yeah, well, I'd just like to leave the audience with no questions.
Strong visual paintings we paint here on the Will Gaines show.
Bobby, before we get into a monthly mailbag, you have a column up.
You were texting me about your column, which I read.
I think you had the unfortunate circumstance.
I'm being real with you out loud right now of writing a column about AI
climate change in the middle of a new cycle where only people care about whether or not the
President of the United States is mentally incapacitated. But nonetheless, it was still fascinating.
And I think, tell me if I'm characterizing this correctly, you have used AI as a way to point
out the hypocrisy and inauthenticity of the climate change cult. The AI promises to draw
on our national power grid to such an extent that if you're truly a climate apocalyptic,
cultists, you'd be worried about AI, but the same people that tell us not to drive gas-powered
vehicles fly in their private planes and are gearing up for the AI revolution.
Yeah, I mean, as a practical matter, AI is not sustainable as far as the energy it demands.
When I started this process, the research was so astounding to me. Will these Silicon Valley
data centers that power AI, they use as much energy as entire nations. They use more electricity
than Japan, Ireland, the Netherlands, and the hypocrisy is really shown by the three people
who are behind the push for AI are Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, three of the
leading funders for climate change activists and movements and organizations.
Yet these three people are fracturing the power grid.
If this continues, and we don't stop AI from using so much energy via legislation,
there will be parts of the globe, maybe even in America, that experience energy blackouts.
Remember New York City in 1977 when they lost power?
That's what we're heading towards if somebody doesn't stop these tech tyrants from sucking up so much energy
and using far more than should be available and allocated for their projects.
Well, your apocalyptic or dystopian prediction is true if we don't also, in turn, just unleash energy.
I mean, I have to say, as everyone constantly, sometimes it's a turnoff because it sounds like a political cliche, but everything, all above the line.
Like, we need to unleash nuclear.
And I've read about what we should do with nuclear in terms of AI.
We have all this regulatory process that basically ends up with building massive nuclear plants that take years and years to come online, while other countries like France, I think, build small nuclear plants, like that you can get up and running and power a single city or whatever the demands might be.
But we need to get nuclear facilities up and running.
We need, obviously, oil and gas.
And if you find it, you know, capable of working without subsidies, yeah, fine.
I hate the windmills. I actually hate the windmills.
Some of my favorite ranchland in Texas is covered up in windmills.
But whatever, we need the energy.
Wealth and energy hand in hand.
One in the same.
Look at countries that do well, and they consume energy.
But here's where I'd push back.
And you're right logically about how to withstand this.
But we shouldn't do this because AI in and of itself is a very concerning development.
Now, we focus so much on AI.
That's not really the headline here.
here. It's an offshoot of AI called AGI, which is artificial general intelligence. And this is
designed to replace people with smarter than human intelligence, which is via robots. And I lay
it out in the piece there. There are some really scary prospects that this could lead to, including
sex robots, automated teachers, police officers that can give you tickets and security guards that
can check your ID and manhandle you if you break the rules or try to pass them.
You're not stopping this, Barack.
What?
You can't put your finger in the, you can't put your finger in the dike of this dam.
I'm sorry.
That stuff, that horse is out of the barn.
You can't turn it back.
You've got a better chance of unleashing energy above the board and how hard.
You got a better chance to get nuclear plants up and running than you do of stopping AI.
Well, if you have a neighbor who's an AGI role.
Are you moving well out of your neighborhood?
I mean, because here's the thing.
This technology is more than the research for it.
So we're going to unleash these robots and not even be prepared to challenge them and fight back against them.
So maybe we can't stop it.
Well, it sounds like according to your column, all we have to do is turn off the power grid.
If they're such a threat, they better figure out how to work around our energy problems.
No, no.
Hold on.
Here's the big thing.
You and I are going to lose power.
Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Gates, they're not losing power.
So you and I aren't going to have access to power grid.
The robots will.
That's what's so frightening here.
I'm going to find that off switch on those robots.
And it may come at the end of a nine-millimeter barrel,
but I'm going to find the off-switch on those robots.
By the way, you can check out Bobby's column.
It's over to outkick.com if you want to not just look into the hypocrisy,
but his dystopian view of the future when it comes to AI.
But I want to move to this, Bobby.
You've got some questions for us.
You've got a mailbag, something we've wanted to do here on the Will Cain show.
We already work comments in the YouTube channel and the X pages and the Instagram comments into the show.
But we also have an email, and you have solicited some questions from the audience.
So we'd love to hear what you have in your, let's call it.
We're going to go ahead and call it your monthly mailbag, even though we haven't done this monthly.
Maybe that's just like speak it into existence, LeVar Ball style.
All right, let's do it.
So this is my favorite one.
This is the most interesting one on the board.
From Judith from North Carolina.
Bobby and Will, who is on the Mount Rushmore of conservative media?
It's a good one.
So Mount Rushmore implies an all-time, right?
You don't do like, right, it's not who the top four now.
It would be all-time of conservative media.
Okay, well, I'll go first, Bobby.
If you want to do this in tandem, I'll pick one in three, and you can pick two and four on the Mount Rushmore.
So I would say, first and foremost, Rush Limbaugh is on the Mount Rushmore of conservative media.
No question.
I think he's a first one that comes to mind.
No dispute there.
I think number two has to be Sean Hannity.
You can't write the book of conservative media without him.
And here's what Hannity's done that very few.
other people have done and that is do radio in television at a high level both for over two
decades i don't think anybody's ever going to be able to do that again that's a great point all right
before we go handy doing radio and tv to your point is um multi-platform i just want to say something
for a second i don't know sean that well i've hung out a few times so i don't have any reason to
offer up these kind of compliments doing though it's easy to say
oh TV star radio they're all very different mediums like a digital star is not a TV star
and a TV star is not a radio star and we've seen failures in that crossover every step
of the way we've seen digital stars been given TV shows doesn't work right um I'm not saying
you can't come up with any examples but without you know throwing people under the bus
we could easily come up with a bunch of examples of digital stars who have failed in their TV
opportunities. It's a different audience, a different platform, a different style. And we can also
find TV stars who didn't translate over to radio. I will say I think radio is the biggest
training ground for any other media platform. If you're good on, if I were a talent development
person in sports or in politics, like you should look to radio, because if somebody's good at
radio, there's a higher chance, they're good at the other things in media. So to give Sean that
compliment that you're giving him, he's good at two of the biggest there in radio.
and TV. So before I pick three and four, Bobby, I just kind of want to do a make sure we're not
forgetting it. So I'm going to throw a bunch of names onto the bulletin board, and you tell me
if I've forgotten anybody, and then I'll pick. I think you have to consider Ben Shapiro because he's
been revolutionary when it comes to digital media. I think in radio, which is one of the
biggest drivers of conservative media, you have to then consider Mark Levin and Glenn Beck, who have
been huge in in radio and Glenn had some very entrepreneurial forays into digital um television
obviously you got to talk about bill o'Reilly and probably even though it was for a shorter time
Tucker Carlson I said because Tucker's Tucker was on at eight o'clock for was it like eight years
maybe and we should never forget like O'Reilly was 25 right
was it 20, 25 years?
I mean, you used to brag about being number one for 20 plus years, right, Bobby?
Yeah, Tucker, you could argue, did it as well as anybody,
but he didn't do it for that long,
where O'Reilly did it for two plus decades.
So, yeah, Tucker, I think it's even shorter than eight years.
I think it's closer to maybe five and a half, six years that he was in 8 p.m.
Now, I will say on Tucker's behalf,
I think he pivoted conservatism in a way that you,
you wouldn't say about O'Reilly or Shapiro.
He literally changed the direction, along with Donald Trump, in sort of the direction of
conservatism.
And in my mind, in a positive direction, I know that there are many other people who disagree
with that.
So influence, even over a shorter time, puts him in the discussion.
But so as a third pick, before I make my pick, did I forget anybody as we're throwing
spaghetti against the wall and getting everybody's name up on the bulletin board?
Did I forget anybody that should be in consideration?
Matt Drudge, if you consider him a conservative, I would argue his influence.
She supersedes everybody but rush on this list.
I would have Matt Drudge in my Mount Rushmore.
You mentioned Beck, Levin, Shapiro, Tucker, O'Reilly.
Those are the ones that really stand out.
I don't know if you consider Joe Rogan a conservative,
but he innovated an entire medium and gave some alternative voices platforms.
They would have never had otherwise.
So if you consider Rogan, I think he is in the conversation.
Megan Kelly, highly influential the time she was out.
She is crushing it on the digital scene.
So those are about four or five extra names that I would put in consideration for the final two spots.
I'm glad you, yeah.
Because I want to make sure I don't forget somebody.
Okay, so I think we're going to come up with the Mount Rushmore then that we both like.
Because with the third pick on the Mount Rushmore to join Rush and Hannity, I'm going to put Bill O'Reilly.
I mean, two plus decades, number one.
It's in highly influential.
So I would have to say Bill O'Reilly belongs on the Mount Rushmore, leaving you the fourth pick.
and you've already hinted to where you might go, and I think I would agree with what you're going to say.
Yeah, I'd go Matt Drudge.
If he doesn't put out, what was it, late 90s, 98 or whatever, that Newsweek was holding the Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky story,
well, I don't know if it ever comes out.
Maybe it does in a very truncated version.
We probably don't get the details we have now.
That's the type of reporting that is so hard to capitalize on because you have to have such trustworthy
the sources. So that would be my Mount Rushmore as well. Rush Hannity in O'Reilly, who I think
probably did this thing. We're all doing the best. If you were to ask me who to study, who is the
best broadcaster ever in this space, I would lean O'Reilly, thus putting him the third face
on the mountain. And I'd finish out with Matt Drudge. But Beck and Shapiro would be close to me
because they were able to branch out and build their own brands,
which everybody is trying to do,
including some of the names we mentioned that are still in traditional media.
I think it's a good Mount Rushmore.
I agree.
All right.
What else do you have from the mailbag?
All right.
This is from Brian.
How important was David Axlerod's comments that Biden can't win the election?
Well, I saw you tweet this or post on X.
We've got to get a new verb.
This is one of the biggest problems with Elon Musk's rebranding as he's lost his verb.
I saw you post this, Bobby, and I hinted at it a little bit earlier in my opening monologue of the Wilcane show.
You said it's notable that both Axelrod and George Stephanopoulos have basically sold out Joe Biden
because you consider them two of the biggest mouthpieces for the direction of the Democrats.
And I think you're on to something there.
Now, Axelrod is, without a doubt, an Obama world Democrat.
And at this point, Joe Biden is not Obama World Democrat.
I know there's some, you know, questions and concerns about, does Obama run?
You know, we've talked about Jill Biden, Hunter Biden, Barack Obama.
Does Barack Obama run the White House?
I know my co-host on Fox and Friends Weekend, Rachel Campos Duffy, believes that to be the case.
I'm not so sure.
I think he has influence.
But I think, the more I've read, Joe Biden, and more importantly, I think Jill Biden have
a lot of resentment towards the Obamas because it was a really sad, quote-unquote, friendship, Bobby.
Like a really sad one where Joe wanted Barack's approval and Joe wanted to be his buddy.
And I get the sense that Barack, you know, if like you're sitting around the lunch table and there's one guy,
but maybe you consider him harmless.
But like, he just kind of is a bummer at the table.
He's bad at BS.
His conversation's no good.
And the minute you walk away, you don't just trash him, but.
y'all give each other knowing looks and maybe roll your eyes i think that's how the
obama world thought of joe right like i'm kind of glad i left the lunch table now now we can talk
for real and be ourselves and i think that joe probably could even sense that he probably
knew it and he wanted to be accepted but it was a one-way friendship and so what i'm getting at is
even on msnbc on morning joe on monday when joe biden called in they brought up david axon
And I couldn't hear what Joe Biden said, but he said something dismissive about Axelot, like, oh, so-and-so said I should get out.
And so do I think it's notable?
I do, because I think David Axelot influences a lot of the Democratic world, including the Obama world.
But at this point, even though it's a smaller portion of the Democrat world, I'm not sure how much influence he has over Biden world.
Well, a couple of things.
Do I think David Axelrod influences Biden? No. Do I think Obama's running the White House day-to-day, no. But I think Obama is still, by far, the most influential person in the Democrat Party. I think what he says forces other Democrats to rally behind him. So when I hear David Axelrod come out and say Biden can't win the election, that's most likely him speaking for Obama. You read any book about Obama or watch any documentary.
The line that always comes up is, if you want to know what Obama thinks, listen to David Axelrod.
So I took that with Obama saying, hey, I don't think Biden can win either.
Thus, David Axelrod goes on TV and says it.
So I think Biden and Jill Biden want to stay in the White House.
But I think it's going to be very hard for them if the party and the elites in the party want him out.
That's never how the Democrat Party has worked.
They were never behind Joe Biden.
I think there are a lot of ways to potentially get him out.
If he stays in this race and Donald Trump beats him, his name and his legacy is going to be forever shunned by the party, vice versa.
They can offer him some unofficial reassurance that they'll take care of his family and hunters' legal woos if he steps aside.
So I'm not buying this idea that Biden and Jill can just reject what the party wants.
I've said for a couple weeks now, if Obama, Ron Claim, Suzanne Rice, Rice want Biden out,
I expect Biden to eventually step down.
Well, I don't know that I agree 100% because I do think they want him out.
And as the betting market show, it doesn't look like he's headed out.
So I don't think they get everything they want.
I think you're right.
They have the most influence.
But I don't think they have control over Joe Biden.
What else do you have in the mailbag?
This is from Janice.
What should Trump's biggest concern be in terms of winning the election?
That's a good one.
It is a good one.
Want me to take it first?
I'm going to say this.
No, I got it.
I got it.
I'm going to say this.
And I'm not going to put color on it, in part because I don't know what crayons I would grab to color in the gaps on what I'm about to say.
but Trump's biggest concern should be cheating in this election and what I mean by that as I grab a couple of crayons isn't necessarily ballots although it could include like ballot harvesting and to the extent that we still have push mail in balloting which is a huge aberration historically and
globally to embrace that kind of election without even getting into the more
conspiratorial angles of cheating that in and of itself is a concern media malpractice is a
concern lying about stories creating fake stories dismissing real stories as
Russian disinformation hiding from the public the truth all of which happened in
2020 are some of the biggest threats to Trump's reelection under
eat that, Bobby? I would say
primarily suburban women
voters being convinced of a handmaid's
tale dystopia. Like if you look
at Biden's Twitter feed right now, it's all
about Project 2025. Like every other
tweets like, Project 2025,
look it up. You know, and that's why we
did it on Monday's episode of the Will Canger.
Like, let's talk about really what
it is. So you don't have to Google it. You don't have to look
it up. We'll talk about it with the author of Project
2025. But they're trying to convince
I think primarily,
women that Trump is taking you, in the words of Mark Ruffalo,
incredible Hulk, to an American Taliban.
That's a secondary concern, I think.
The primary, though, I think would be cheating, Bobby.
Okay, so let's talk about these two.
The second one's really interesting, because I agree.
Conservatives and Republicans are a bit too optimistic that Trump's going to win.
I think if I were to bet he would win, I'd put it at about a 58, 60 percent chance.
but I do worry about those independent conservative women that really plagued him four years ago.
Now, I've been very open.
I don't like Nikki Haley.
I think neocons like her are more damaging to the country than a lot of Democrats.
But if he were to pick her as his VP, I don't think he will.
She would actually ease some of those concerns.
His best chance of secure in the election is probably picking Nikki Haley as his running mate, though I don't expect he will.
I think it's going to be Rubio, Vance, or Bergham.
Point number two on the cheating, I've mentioned this a lot, and it's been memory hole from the news cycle for a lot of reasons.
Last November, the House Judiciary Committee filed a report disclosing the extent to which government agencies influenced tech companies to suppress and censor content ahead of the 2020 election, most of which found to be information that was disfavorable to Democrats.
We have real proof that these tech companies have colluded with government agencies four years ago to assist Joe Biden.
What is stopping that from happening again?
Nothing.
One of my biggest frustrations with Republican lawmakers is they keep complaining about this stuff, but they do nothing to stop it.
Is the media and social media going to get involved again?
Of course they are.
Right now they're very distracted by Biden and trying to get him out of the race.
but if it is down to Trump and Biden or whomever the Democrat nominee is, you can rest
assure come September, October, the media and big tech, they're going to be very anti-Trump,
and that can still influence votes.
Yeah, I share that concern.
I don't know what it is, but like I don't know the specifics of how it will manifest.
But I just know when people say things, your average American on the left and your media say things like Donald Trump is a threat to democracy and Donald Trump is an authoritarian in waiting.
And then at times even openly compare him to Hitler, why would I doubt your sincerity?
And if that's the case, why would I doubt the extent that you would go to protect America from Hitler?
you see what I'm saying like you've set the standard you've said like if you're facing an existential threat
then you'll do anything to continue to exist it's at the base of base of humanity survival and you're
describing Donald Trump on the left you're describing him as an existential threat to America so when
you do that I have to presume you'll do anything to protect America and that's why I come back to
like cheating i don't know what you'll do to cheat but you've already said to me you have plenty
motivation to do anything to protect america so yeah manipulation is probably the best word and um one
of the questions or one of the ways that this happens people always like well what is big tech
actually doing um i've done a lot of research on this and i've written about it pretty extensively
google makes up about 97% of the search engine market share everybody that's searching in america
is essentially using Google.
Well, 93% of links that Americans click on come on the home page of Google, meaning page one.
If you bury a story on page two, only about 2% of the country is reading it.
So what happens, you see this over and over again.
Very negative articles about Donald Trump appear on the first page.
You had a tweet a couple of months ago about member, the bloodbath,
how all these headlines were not mentioning that Trump was referring to the audience.
automotive industry, they portrayed it as if he was suggesting and perhaps inciting a civil war.
Well, all the articles that gave full context were not on the homepage, Will.
You took a video and posted that on X.
I verified that.
So media manipulation is going to be a factor.
That's not a question.
E.C. Stanton on YouTube says, Project 2025, Will, why won't you talk about Donald's plans?
Well, I presume, E.C., you're coming from the left. What I would say to you is, I have. I talked about Project 2025 on Monday, which is independent of Donald Trump. It's a suggestive exercise in policy and personnel for the future of the country. Donald Trump separately has talked about his plans. I mean, I spent an hour and a half with him. He spent an hour on the All In podcast where he was asked about various kinds of policy. Now, E.C., I would ask, have you listened to any of that? Like, have you listened to him in his?
own words or if you only listen to echoes and rumors about what he had to say, repetitions from
the likes of John Oliver, John Stewart. Because if you listen to the All In podcast, for example,
he will say directly, I do not support a national abortion ban. He will talk in specificity
about a ton of policies that he supports or declines to support. So I would just suggest you
maybe go more direct source. And if you want direct source from me, go to Monday.
The 13th Apostle says on YouTube, I think Will Pete and Rachel should be a triple bust on the side of the mountain.
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All right.
That's a great mailbag.
All right.
Hit me with the last question, Bobby Barrett.
All right.
This is the sports one.
What does Patrick Mahomes or when does Patrick Mahomes versus Tom Brady officially become a debate that comes from us via day?
Daniel.
A debate over what?
Oh, the best quarterback of all time, the goat?
Zoom. I assume that's what he means.
I guess the LeBron Jordan football version.
Right.
Okay, so quickly, I do not believe that it is a sheer numbers game.
I do not believe that Patrick Mahomes simply has to acquire the same amount of Super Bowl victories as Tom Brady to put himself in the debate over who is the goat.
I believe that he can get into a certain range of victories.
And then you start taking the totality, which can include, by the way,
Super Bowl losses and stats and longevity and all of these things.
So when does it – what does Mahomes have?
Does he have three right now?
Three Super Bowl, six years, four Super Bowl appearances.
Never has not made the AFC championship game.
The worst result he's had is twice, which is losing in the AFC championship
game in overtime.
By the way, we had some friends over for dinner last night.
My son, one of my sons is 16.
And another friend, family here in Dallas, had an exchange student here with them.
They have an exchange student here with them for like a month from France.
And this kid who's also 16, apparently where he's from in France, they're super into handball.
You ever watched Handball in the Olympics?
Olympics is coming up.
Handball looks super, it looks really fast.
fun. And people say, hey, what's handball? I'm like, well, actually, it looks like water polo, but on land.
And I turned my buddy, and this kid was describing handball for us and the rules. And I said,
how long would it take Patrick Mahomes to become the best handball player in the world?
Or like, within a year. Within the first year, Patrick Mahomes dominates handball. Am I being an egotistical,
ugly American? I think he does within a year.
Well, it seems a little fast, but I'll give it to you. Look, I'm always proxical.
America. Football is an American sport, so I'll always give us the side.
Somewhere out there, there's some stud French handballer who's like, how dare you insult the
work in years I've put in? Patrick Mahomes could not step in.
Right. My 20 years would be.
Yeah, so I would just answer this. I'd love to see it.
Yeah, I think it's already a debate. Brady is the goat, the consensus goat.
But Mahomes is the only person that right now can seemingly challenge.
him, no one else can.
So I would say it's already a debate.
He's a long way to go.
His first 60 years were better than Brady's six years.
But, yeah, I think it's already a debate.
I think one more.
That's what I think.
I'm not just giving a comment.
I think one more Super Bowl victory.
Put him at four.
Brady's at seven.
Two separate franchises, which is huge, by the way, in this debate.
Because it takes him out of the system argument.
It takes them out of the Brady Belichick argument.
And theoretically, technically, you can make that argument when it comes to Mahomes.
Reed and Kansas City and comfortable environments.
They did that with Messi and Rinaldo.
They give Ronaldo credit that he switched teams and kept winning where
Messi only stayed at Barcelona for a while.
And so Brady's got a lot.
He's got seven.
He's got two franchises.
He's got all those years.
Mahomes, in a short period, to your point, has racked up a lot.
One more four Super Bowl victories with that resume.
I've said before, I think Mahomes is in the Montana debate right now.
Not yet at the Brady debate.
But one more, and we can start putting him in the Brady debate.
I agree.
Good stuff.
Bobby Burrock of Outkick.
Check out his column at Outkick.com.
That was a fun mailbag.
Man, check him out at X.
Great to have you here on the Will Kane show.
It will.
Always appreciate it.
All right.
All right.
So 10 strokes aside, that's what Donald Trump is offering Joe Biden.
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Two a day's young establishment James and tinfoil pap.
So before we get into Donald Trump versus Joe Biden, which I do not think is a debate.
And I think if Donald Trump offers Joe Biden 20 strokes, my money is still on Donald Trump.
To the extent that let's say Trump, like if Trump were sitting here with his.
right now, he'd say he's a 75, you think? Is that what he would say?
I'm a scratch golfer will. Maybe one over. That's about it.
You know, I played with John Ram the other day. He only beat me by two strokes.
Two strokes. That's it. Just two strokes.
Tinfoil, let me hear you're Donald Trump.
I wasn't prepared for that. I can do it pretty, I can't do it right now.
I don't know why you need so much preparation.
You can do it on the spot.
It's not a hard one.
I can't do it.
It's arguably one of the easiest impersonations.
You just have to, I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.
But right now, if I were ranking them.
Our numbers right now are going to go down like Biden.
Young establishment James, not good.
Third place, the impressionation of Donald Trump.
It's somewhere between two a days and will.
I'm not sure.
So I was going to throw you in tinfoil.
Yeah, I got to be out.
No.
I used to be so good at it, and I haven't, I'm lusted.
It used to be, yeah, that old chestnut.
Yeah, back in the day.
That's like you, that's like you two today, say it used to be a 12.
I'm not very good at math, man.
I'm not very good at math, man.
I'm not good at math.
Let's be honest.
All right, so let's say Donald Trump's 75.
I think a young establishment James said he's officially a two-and-a-half handicap.
I don't think that Joe Biden runs out there and does a number.
95. I don't think he plays
9. Do you guys think he does? In no world
does he make. Maybe from the women's T's.
Maybe. By the way,
even if Donald Trump is not a
75, let's say he's a low 80s.
Okay, let's say he's an 82.
That's probably what he really is.
I don't think Joe Biden does a 102.
I don't think Joe Biden.
I mean, I will
I don't think Joe Biden makes it for a full round.
Yeah, exactly. He's not making it the whole way.
He's not carrying his bags. The bags will take them over.
Now, I haven't seen a lot of Joe's.
I haven't seen a lot of Joe's, I haven't seen his swing, not a good swing.
I haven't seen Joe's swing too much.
But I've seen Joe walk and turn, like that doctor we played from NBC.
Like, he can't physically move.
So what did Donald Trump say, 15 yards.
He hit it 15 yards.
Is that what he said?
I buy that.
I buy it.
It's 15 yards.
And I'm not sure it's straight.
So here's the question.
Could I beat Joe?
Biden. Now here's my golf, okay? I'm going to go through nine or ten balls and around. I'm
going to lose balls every other hole, maybe slightly more than every other hole. I will hit it
straight once, straight with distance. I'm going to get myself once every three swings.
Okay? So there as a hole or two, we were like, wow, Will, that was two shots in a row that
went towards the direction of the hole, right? But if there's water,
there's a good chance I'm hitting it. If there's
houses an OB, there's a good chance I'm slicing it.
And the reason I'm saying is to use, I don't really keep score
when it's all said and done. We usually play best ball
with a couple of guys anyway, you know? So, could I
beat Joe Biden? Would you put your money on me or Joe Biden right now?
Yes, you're a healthy young man
that can be athletic and absolutely good.
You know what, though? If you're hitting the ball 60 yards,
every time. Sometimes you'll be playing with a really old man who doesn't hit the ball
anywhere, but he just hits at the exact same shot every time. And he kind of like, you think
you're beating him by five to ten strokes and then you get to the turn. Everyone says
their score and he kind of sneaks up on you. Do you think Will. You're right, James. So I think
my strategy would have to be never take out the driver, pick some clubs that are safe and just
me, I should play old man. I should just motor it straight down the course.
Yeah. I know, but nobody actually does that.
You're right. It should be the strategy every time I play, but it's not.
It's like, let's smash this thing at a 90-degree angle.
All right, so you think I've got Joe Biden.
Now, one thing I know I don't have is Donald Trump.
And so that brings us to who at Fox could beat Donald Trump.
In two days, you have some suggestions to walk us through.
And I don't know. I don't think any of us know.
James might, because he looks like the kind of guy that would chat up Brett Bayer in the hallway and ask him how he's swinging him.
Well, it's pretty good lately.
With their vest on them.
James, be honest. James, I want you to be honest.
Have you stopped any Fox talent in the hallway at any point and said how you hitting them?
A lot of dead air.
How many Fox talent have you asked how you hitting them, James?
It once or twice
It definitely has
Have you asked more
Have you asked more than three anchors
How you're hitting them
It's not an anchor
It's usually just some dude with the vest
You've got a master's hat on
That's a good conversation starter
I have no issues with it's not
It's not
It's a conversation under
Do would you say
On a daily basis
You practice your swing in the break room
Not in the break room
in the locker room at your cubicle
you stand up at your cubicle and just do a shadow swing on a daily basis
he's like dad's status at 24
yeah
not bad not bad
all right two days take us away
take us away show us some fox talent we decide
can they be done of Trump
this guy right here just Jesse Waters
he looks like he can
take it down on the course
you know what I'm saying just Jesse Waters
the personification like
lacrosse in human form.
Yes. And he's standing there with the
Trumps as well. Waters is probably
the guy that had the golf
court's membership at a young age
but just didn't want to go with his dad
out on a Saturday morning.
True.
Look, he was too busy, man,
at the lacrosse tournament.
How good was Waters
at lacrosse? I'd like to know. I know he
played the cross. And he looks like lacrosse.
He does. How good was he?
Can we look that up? Can you guys get on that?
Google it.
Like, there's got to be some, he's mid-40s.
That's got to be his max press.
There's got to be some like 03, 04 lacrosse rankings and see if we can find Jesse Waters.
He's from Long Island, too, right?
Yeah.
That's like, it all adds up.
It must have been good.
Does Jesse Waters beat Donald Trump at golf?
My answer is no.
I do not think he does.
Okay.
He beats me.
Yeah, he beats any of us.
I'm going to say Jesse Waters, he might, I don't know about you to it.
I don't know what James shoots.
I'm going to say Jesse's a low 90s guy.
That's what I'm going to say.
I have my driving statistics up on my phone.
No one cares.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Next person.
All right.
Who you got?
I feel like Sandra Smith.
I feel like she would be a good golfer.
You know what I'm saying?
I think you're right.
I think this.
Yeah.
She's a Westchester person.
I feel like she has a country club membership.
She probably has a really nice swing, I feel like.
I don't know.
Do you have any other women in this rotation?
I do.
Because I want to ask a question.
You do.
Okay, who's your other woman?
Can you throw them up right now?
What other women did you throw in this debate?
This is Anzley Earhart.
With Tim Tebow.
Okay.
On the course.
Okay.
So I want to have a sub-debat.
Is that it?
These two women?
These two women, yeah.
Or did you throw...
Okay, you didn't want to make sure you didn't throw in Martha McCallum.
I didn't.
Oh, yeah.
All right, so first of all, Sandra Smith versus Ainsley Earhart, I got all my money on Sandra.
All my money.
So Ainsley's out of the debate.
Yep.
Okay.
So Ainsley versus Trump, Trump.
Now, Sandra versus Trump.
And I do, if I'm putting my money on any Fox female golfer, is it Sandra over Martha?
Because there's something inside me that says Martha can golf.
I forgot about Martha.
I don't know what it is.
I forgot about.
about Martha. I think you're right. I think
Sandra's got a killer instinct, though.
Okay. So
Sandra versus Trump. First of all,
I'm going to go this far. I'm going
Sandra over Jesse.
So I think this is a tougher call.
Yes. Yes.
Sandra Smith's a better golfer
than Jesse Waters. By the way, we know nothing.
This is all off of appearance.
None of them might play golf at all.
It's all very coded.
I know you're coded.
I'm searching for
It's all who looks more golfy
Yeah
By the way
The next person
Looks the most golfy
Out of this entire place
Are you ready for this one?
Not yet, no
I'm not
Because tinfoil
has some Jesse Waters
Info for us on lacrosse
What do you have tinfoil?
I'm not finding anything
I thought I had something
But it was a Jesse with an IE
Oh from Roanoke
From 1979
So it's not looking good
That's not going to work
But one of his
most recent images is
him playing golf. So I don't know.
I think he might be
better than we think.
All right. I'm
still going Trump over
Sanders Smith, but I believe
we're in a five
to seven stroke range now.
So I think Sandra is
in striking distance.
Yeah. But I
think Trump beats Sandra Smith.
Okay.
I agree.
next.
All right.
This guy.
Mr. Bill Hammer.
That's incredible. That's an incredible.
Bill Hammer.
Yeah.
Look at that visor.
I've got some opinions here.
They're going to surprise you.
He looks like a 90s golfer in that.
He does.
He looks like he's buddies with Payne Stewart.
Yes.
He looks.
Bill Himmer looks like America.
He looks like.
The guy that everybody said they wanted to grow up to be.
He's Ohio's Matthew McConaughey.
Like the jaw line, you know, he's just, I mean, but there's something about him that says to me,
he can golf, but he's not a golfer.
Okay?
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yes.
Like, um...
He looks good doing it.
I, I, I, I think you could catch him.
Hatcher in yoga classes, spin classes. I'm serious. He takes care of himself, and I think he's
into taking, he ensures that he takes care of himself so much that he's not going to spend
half a day on a golf course. Do you see what I'm getting at here? Yeah. Like, he's almost in too
good of shape to be really good at golf. If you walk around, if you walk, it's, you burn
a shocking amount of calories.
It's four hours.
You keep telling yourself that, James, 24-year-old James.
Yes. You're right, but you better be doing something else with it, like some lifting
and that kind of thing.
I don't agree, though.
So, Himmer.
The Netflix show shows, like, those guys are all ripped now.
I mean, like, it's a totally different game.
You don't have Lee Trevino walking around out there anymore, you know?
Well, they're all lifting now.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Tiger reinvented it, and Bryson Dijambeau and Brooks Kevka.
They all look like Greek gods.
It's all they throw out their back.
Okay.
I'm going to still take Sandra over Bill, therefore I'm taking Trump over Bill.
All right.
I wonder if I'm right on this Sandra Golf Ringer thing.
We need to get them on to figure this out.
Okay.
Do you have one more?
Well, actually, real quick.
You got to put the...
Yeah.
From the chat, someone said, William Helmer says, anything sports, I'm taking, Katie Pavlidge, or Abby Hornacek.
Oh, Abby might have been a good one.
Katie Pavlidge.
Well, those are, that's, who said that in the chat?
William Helmer.
It couldn't be Bill Herman.
So let's steal.
Abby, Abby for sure.
Abby is an athlete.
I mean, and look, if we're being real.
her dad is like, you know, in the top 0.01% of athletics.
And it's genetic.
Yeah.
And I've seen Abby shoot a basketball.
I mean, Abby, I don't know if she can golf, but I'm just going to bet on that
athleticism that she's, Abby's probably play, if she's played a dozen times, she's better
than me.
You know what I mean?
And she's better than most people.
Katie, I don't know anything about Katie's athleticism.
She's so into hunting that that's her, you know, kind of image.
I don't know anything about, like, did Katie play sports in high school?
I feel like people also, they either hunt or they golf.
It's one or the other.
Very rare you get the golf.
All right.
I have one more.
You haven't taken us.
I don't know how many you have left, but there's a couple of guys we've got to get in here because it becomes a real debate with Trump.
There's two of them.
Okay.
What do you got next, two days?
No, you do yours.
I have something just kind of funny for the end
and we'll end with that.
Okay, you did not bring up.
There's two, James says.
Okay, the most obvious one we're going to save for last.
So don't name the most obvious one, James.
Who's the one I'm forgetting?
Trey Gowdy.
Oh, yeah, I wouldn't know about Trey.
Trey is world's guard.
He's registered in at a 1.7.
He claims to be scratch.
And so that's a little better than Trump.
and he is people who have played with him say it's he's even or around breaking even every time
he's hard to look for our show because we have him on monday we could ask him i mean yeah so
oh we have him on monday yes we do right okay all right yeah i know what you're getting at tinfo
we had to pull him off the golf course to to get him on our show that day and tray has anti-golf hair
that that remember i'm doing this not off of inside information i'm doing this off of
looks. I'm doing us off the most shallow possible analysis. And Trey, with his varying hip
hairstyles, does not read golf. And I'm going to ask Trey about this when we get him on on
Monday. His latest hairstyle, what has he got going on? Like, it's almost a mohawk, but it's not.
It's like, it only is, it's got verticality, but only down the middle. And so I need to find
out what he's going with lately with his hair.
So setting aside, Tray, the most obvious Fox golfer, I think, is special reports, Brett
Bear.
And I'm surprised you didn't put him in your rotation there, two days, because this is the only
real debate to my mind.
Trump versus Bear.
And I don't even know Bears' scorecard, but I know the pants that he wears on the golf
course.
And if you wear those pants.
You have to be good.
You have to be.
You either have to be good or you have to be the dude that's like, who, where are the Bush lights?
You know, the guy's going to drink 12 on the course that day.
Okay, so I don't picture that being Brett Baer, like shotgunning beers on the third hole.
So my guess is he's really good at golf.
And on that one, I think I'm taking Brett Baer over Donald Trump.
He played in college, too.
That's right.
There's a great saying.
You've got to be one of three things if you get invited to the golf course.
You've got to play fast.
You've got to be a good time or you've got to be really good.
Any, or two of those three things.
Any combo works.
But if you don't have one of those three,
just one?
It's either one or two.
I got nothing.
Okay.
That's why I always default to having a good time, being a good time,
because I know I'm not good.
Or play fast.
And I'm chasing balls, so I'm not fast.
and, by the way, I don't like Let Goa Balls.
I will search for them for a little bit.
That's killer.
You got to go.
I'm thrifty.
Just buy the cheap ones.
I also will ball scrounge.
If I find somebody else's ball, that one's going on the edges.
That one's going in the pocket because I know I'm going to need it.
Everybody loses them in the same places.
Everybody does?
Oh, that's good enough for the future.
Thank you, James.
I have one more picture, Will.
Oh, you're a surprise for me.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy just looks the part if you can really believe that.
Oh, yeah.
It's me.
Look at that golf shirt.
That's a 90s look right there.
You accuse me of dressing golf even though I'm not a golfer.
All the time.
You'd show up to the course.
You'd meet this guy and you think, oh, wow, he's wearing for a good one today.
This guy's going to be good.
Oh, it would be such a disappointment off the first tee.
It would be such a disappointment.
I think those, it's just, what do you wear in the summer?
Short sleeve, you know, not a full button down that often,
so button down to here with a collar, and before you know it, that's a golf shirt.
You're talking to people who wear vests.
What are not supposed to start wearing?
I've heard Dallas is the biggest rising golf city in the country right now.
Not even in Dallas do they wear vests in the summer.
All right.
Not like young establishment, James.
That's going to do it for us today here on the Wilcane's long extended version here.
As we made our way through the news and some BS.
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