Will Cain Country - Is Lying the Left’s New Strategy? Plus, MSNBC Guest More Concerned About Climate Change Than Crime! (ft. Tom Shillue)

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Story #1: Texas State Rep. James Talarico appeared on 'The Will Cain Show' and claimed victory, but Will breaks down the four major lies Talarico told in just ten minutes. From twisting redistricting history to flat-out misrepresenting his interview exit, Will walks through the facts, exposes the edits, and asks: does the Left care about the truth? Story #2: Fox News Contributor and Comedian, Tom Shillue joins Will to dive into what’s really behind the Left’s reaction to President Donald Trump’s crime crackdown in D.C., from an MSNBC meltdown to Beto O’Rourke openly calling for rebellion. They also dive into cancel culture, Sidney Sweeney, Gen X politics, and why Greg Gutfeld’s crossover on the 'Tonight Show' is a signal of the culture shift already underway. Story #3: Will and The Crew explain how things code left or right as well as the finalists in the March Madness-style bracket for most conservative dog. Plus, Will previews his conversation with MLB legend Josh Hamilton, dropping this Friday. Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, a rising star in the Democrat Party. Appears on the Will Kane show and utters some of the most blatant lies in the history of television. Not quite done. He then goes to social media. and betrays what it means to be a pastor. Where are you now, James Tolerico? Coming up on Wilcane Country. Two, sound from your biggest stars in the Democrat Party and where they are today, what defines the future of the left

with Tom Shaloo. Three, I don't remember because I'm too worked up, but we've got more for you today here on WSW. Wilcane Country. It is Wilcane Country streaming live at Fox News.com. On the Fox News YouTube channel, the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, terrestrial radio market-to-market across this great United States of America, but always on demand by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify.

What is happening today in story number three? To a day's Dan, tinfoil, Pat, I'm so worked up. I've got to go ahead and calm down, but there is nothing that quite pisses me off like calling into question my integrity from a damned state-level politician, a youth pastor middle school teacher calling into question my integrity. That's going to be the focus of today's Wilcane country. What did I forget? What are we doing besides hanging out with Tom Shaloo? What are we doing in story number three. Talking about Josh Hamilton, a little dog bracket, you know, lighting things up a little bit.

Oh, yeah. Fired up. What dog is the conservative breed? We've had a March Madness style bracket. Is it the German Shepherd? Is it the Labrador retriever? Is it the beagle? Everybody seems to be confused.

I'm not talking about your dog. I'm talking about your breed. The famous question when I took the LSAT that seems to define whether or not people understand logic is as follows. All baseball players wear hats. Do all people that wear hats play baseball? Just because your dog breed may in fact be coded left doesn't mean that your dog, your in particular dog, your Bernadoodle named Sandy is Beto O'Rourke. Still, like certain shoes or certain food, certain dogs code left or code right. We make our way down through our March Madness style bracket. But let's get to it. No further ado. Let's lean into the

energy. Story number one. Representative James Talariko of Texas, currently residing in Illinois, traveling around not with breakfast tacos, but with a Texas state flag, appeared yesterday on the Wilcane show. Now, James Talarico, for those of you who do not know, is a rising star in the Democrat Party. his appearance yesterday with me seems to be further evidence that he's the future for Democrats. At least that's what's being said virally. Let's set the stage with a few more ornaments. James Telerico has been laundered, filtered through not just mainstream media, but those who seem to find what is a conversation of goodwill? What is a conversation of

integrity. What is a true search for the truth? His star has popped because James Tala Rico has appeared on Joe Rogan. I guess all I'm pushing back on is that second step of it's always going to be this way. Right. It doesn't have to be this way. That is the key step. Right. So I'm not on. That's because you need to run for president. We need someone who's actually a good person. Well, to, you know, because the Democrats have very few candidates. We need somebody who is a good person. And with that youth pastor voice and that middle school teacher demeanor, one would think

that's the actual integrity, that's the actual character of James Talarico. Style over substance. As I've often quoted, Ronald Reagan's communication advisor said it's 80% how you look, 15% how you sound, and only 5% what you say. James Telerico has all the trappings and stylings of someone who's different, that he's not simply a regular politician. How is James Telerico different? Well, in one respect, he went to seminary. He's a pastor.

Oh, my, we're dealing with someone of really high character who just so happens to be a Democrat. Well, I would like to explore that character in all of about 10. minutes. That's how much time I gave James Tallerico yesterday on the Will Cain Show. Ten minutes to discuss why he has abandoned the state of Texas, why he is carted off his college dorm room Texas flag, and flung it behind him at the La Quinta outside Chicago.

I wanted to talk about who's funding this foray, multi-week foray, into Illinois. George Soros and Beto O'Rourke both have packs that are funneling money into Texas politicians. And when asked directly, Tolariko told me no, no, no, no, no money from Soros. Accepting one's integrity, they hope that would be true. Does he deserve that benefit of the doubt? Is he worthy of the rising star?

Well, in 10 minutes and on the Internet afterwards, Tala Rico uttered no fewer than four. blatant lies that he then used to pretend somehow he slammed dunked on Fox News. Let's explore it. Let's do it together. And James Tallerico, wherever you are out there, banging around Wrigley Field, you are always welcome to come back and have this conversation with one of the few people in media who does not cut and run. but who'll look you dead in your eye.

Take some losses and take some punches. This ain't a game. It isn't WWE. It's real life. Sometimes I'll be wrong. But one thing I'll never do, one thing I will never do is lie. Here's what Tolariko posted after our 10-minute conversation yesterday.

He went to every social media platform, TikTok, X, and Instagram, and posted the following. He said that he went on to Fox News and told the truth about redistricting and the power grab in Texas. I asked a simple question. If Republican policies are as popular or so popular, why do they need to redraw these maps

and not run on their policies? Obliquely, he says, he, referring to me, Will Kane, refused to answer and cut the interview short. To that, something I rarely do, which is dive into the mud of viral social media, responded in this way to Tala Rico. I told the representative, oh, James, I. respect internet trolls to distort the interview, but you were there. I respectfully gave you 10 minutes, an eternity in cable news. And in that time, you had no answer as to why you've abandoned your job. You can take a flag to Illinois, but you still cut and run from Texas. There's an

interesting thing about the way that it works on the internet, especially now on X. You post clips. We post clips. Perhaps some of you consume Wilcane country on Instagram or on X. But what I've learned is wherein we used to say no one will watch a two-minute clip. We have to reduce to 30 seconds. The truth is nobody watches a 30-second clip. Everybody reads the caption above the video and presume that is what has happened in the video. From there, by the way, Dirty rags in the media run headlines based upon the caption of an ex post. And now you've laundered it and filtered it through the trappings, the pretense, the costume of credibility. And you have now manipulated the truth.

And only in certain moments can you look back and go, what was actually true? Let's walk through it one at a time. This morning, I'm as guilty as everybody else, is the first time I actually watched the video. that Tala Rico posted. He posted approximately a minute and 10 seconds of a 10-minute conversation. In that a minute and 10 seconds, he jump-cut edited our conversation twice. Do you know what a jump-cut edit is? He cuts out portions.

He takes portions of one segment of the interview and abuts it to another segment of the interview. He, in that, tried to put together two moments where he thought he was creating a slam dunk, and I was flustered or faltering. And then he cuts the video off at the very end, seeming to fulfill the caption, he cut the interview short. Do you care about the truth? I'm serious.

I ask you that question. If you disagree with me, if you're on the left, I only ask you one question. Do you care about the truth? Let's walk through the truth. And the four lies uttered by the rising star of Democrats.

Number one, Tolariko tells me, in a moment of great victory, As I point out that Democrats have 100% of the seats in Massachusetts, and yet 35% of the vote is Republican, pointing out that it is a gerrymandered state, as is Illinois, as is California, and you're making a big to do about Texas doing something to a lesser extent than Massachusetts. Tolarico then seems to come over the top with, but did you know this will?

Representative, you gave the ballgame analogy. In my view, what has happened here is you've done something. in certain states and you don't like it when it's done in Republican states. And now you're saying you've done the same thing as us. You've done the same thing as us. And we're going to, by the way, if you do it, we're going to ratchet it up even more in the words of Gavin Newsom. We, we, my party has never gerrymandered in the middle of the decade at the request of the president of the United States, nor would we. The only way this is going to happen in blue states is if Texas executes this power grab. You mentioned Massachusetts. Do you know the party of the governor that signed that

map into law. He was a Republican. It was a Republican governor that signed that map into law. So I just want to be, I want to be clear with our facts and I don't want to money the waters, all of us, whether we're Democrats, independents, or Republicans, we should stand up to politicians who don't want to face accountability at the ballot box. That's exactly what's happening here. And I asked you, if Republican policies are popular, why do they need to redraw these maps? Number one, if Republicans or policies are popular, why do they redraw these maps? The implication being that Republicans are rigging the game for unpopular policies. Currently, congressional Democrats have the lowest rating in the history of the United States

of America, the lowest approval rating in the history of the United States of America. In the state of Texas, where the game is supposedly being rigged, Republicans own an overwhelming majority in the state and Senate. They also own the governorship. President Donald Trump won at a national level overwhelmingly over Kamala Harris. All of this evidence of popular policies. Lie number one, Republicans are doing this because their policies. are not popular. Lie number two. Tala Rico suggests that a Republican governor approved of that map drawn in Massachusetts. The point of that line is to suggest to me and to you who is listening,

even in Massachusetts, it was a bipartisan support for that map. That is lie number two. Charlie Baker was the governor of Massachusetts in 2020 when that map was drawn. Did you know, exposing the lie? that Democrats controlled a super majority of the Massachusetts legislature, meaning they had a veto-proof majority. There's nothing the Republican governor could do. Nothing. If he had vetoed it, no problem. They moved forward with that same map.

Charlie Baker did something that he had to do. It wasn't endorsement, wasn't bipartisan, wasn't non-partisan. But Talarico lies to you. and to me in their face. Now, if you want to criticize me today for not knowing that in the moment, that's a fair piece of criticism. I didn't know that in 2020 Democrats had a super majority, a veto-proof majority in Massachusetts to call him to the mat on in-in that very moment.

As was the case when he brings up obliquely this idea of Democrats actually wanted to outlaw gerrymandering. That's what they wanted to do. In fact, they put a bill on Congress's floor. outlaw gerrymandering. Republicans love rigging elections so much that they voted down a quote-unquote gerrymandering law. Here is that moment. Do you know how many Republicans joined Democrats in the U.S. Congress to ban gerrymandering? All the Democrats voted for it. Zero Republicans voted for it. Zero. It's an odd. It's an odd. You can scare me the both sides rhetoric. It's clearly

one side that is trying to rig the rules in the middle of the game. This is like two football teams coming out of the locker room at half time and the team that's ahead says they want to change the rules for the second half so they can win the game. All of us would be throwing food up the TV if that happened. We don't accept cheating in our politics. We don't accept cheating in our relationships. We shouldn't accept cheating in our elections. I appreciate whatever you just referred to about the number of Democrat congressmen that I'm unfamiliar with who made this against Republican Congress. Here's why I'm unfamiliar with that. And again, I'm open to criticism that I should have known that in the moment.

But he vaguely refers to a gerrymandering law. What was he talking about? What gerrymandering law did zero Republicans vote for? Well, he's referring to two potential laws, one coming out of the Senate and one coming out of the House. These are in roughly 2021. Those laws, by the way, are entitled. I want to make sure I get this right for you because you deserve facts.

The Freedom to Vote Act and the For the People Act. Before the People Act, H.R. 1 coming out of the Senate, the Freedom to Vote Act coming out of the House. No Republicans voted for that. Weird. I guess it means Republicans like gerrymandering, right? Exactly as the pastor suggested. Exactly as suggested. It's not a both sides thing. Democrats don't like gerrymandering. Republicans like to cheat. And it's there on the voting record. Did you know that both the Freedom to Vote Act and the For the People Act, those bills included things like voting for felons. mandatory mail-in balloting, expanding voter ID to include things like college IDs. These were massive bills designed to blow up the integrity of our elections.

And inside that, they put some things in there as well about gerrymandering. And by the way, you know this intuitively and with common sense. Congress doesn't create any narrowly tailored bill. Never. So you say, oh, the gerrymandering bill. What gerrymandering bill? There was no gerrymandering bill. You're talking about HR1, where you wanted to explode mail-in.

balloting. Do away with voter ID. And that's effectively what you're doing when you say, let me go and see if I can get a Pepperdine college ID laminated and printed off, and that'll help me get an extra ballot. Please, with your college IDs. He lies to you about a gerrymandering law. By the way, this one makes him like every other politicians. It's what they do. It's why they

pack everything into one bill, because then they can say you voted against X. Well, I had to vote against X because I also didn't like A, B, and C. What you packed into that bill. But that's a lie. He knows what he's doing. That's a blatant lie from the middle school teacher. That is lie number three. Then, finally, he suggests, and he goes to social media to say this afterwards, that I was scared of these questions, that I ran from this question. And this is the part that really pisses me off because it impedes my integrity. And I'm the guy that invites these people on over and over. And by the way, pastor, representative,

you're welcome to come back and talk about your multitude of lies. because then he suggests that I cut the interview short and he edited it to make it look like I actually did that what he doesn't tell you is these parts don't matter there will be a part that matters but this part matters for you television interviews are almost always short about four to five minutes I'm actually pushing the limits

because I'm trying to do something that's a bit more podcasty I'm at times doing 15 minute interviews sometimes doing 10 even seven minutes is an eternity in cable news I had gotten wrapped multiple times That interview was booked for five minutes and I pushed it more towards 10. I had gotten wrapped. Why did I get wrapped? My producers don't wrap me because they're afraid of what's happening.

They would never do that. And by the way, they never give me instructions in my ear beyond time cues. I'd push that interview so far that what I left from my final segment, which I have to do to hand it off to the five, was two minutes. I had two minutes. You can look at the clock and see I came back at 458. I got to hand it off by five. If I push it any further, I'm severely compromising, essentially the way television works. So having already done an interview, longer than almost any on cable news, by the way, he's not the first Democrat or Texas Republican that Texas Democrat that I've invited on this show. I've had two others. He went longer than he others.

So he's suggesting I ran from these questions and I cut this interview short. But here's the real part that matters to you, not the mechanics of TV, is after I told him, I got to go we're running short on time. I went another minute and a half in where we talked about, and I pressed him on who's funding this. He promised me with the trappings and stylings of integrity that he would not take money from George Soros or Mado O'Rourke. And then he joked around about missing breakfast tacos in Texas. All of this conducted with joviality, good well, in respect. And your rising star of the Democrat Party, the man cloaking himself. and integrity with the middle school teacher voice and the pastor patina goes to the internet immediately afterwards and says the fourth and most obvious lie is which that i cut him short

now i ask you one more time do you care about the truth if you care about the truth you just heard it and if he has the nut sack and the spine to come on he's invited as well to come on and face the truth. But my suspicion is, like every fraudulent pastor that you've ever met in your life, and I know that you have, this man knows no more about God

than he does about telling the truth. And that, I have to say, with some level of conviction. Because no man of God that I know manages to lie blatantly four times in eight minutes and then triple down on the internet. your rising star is a fraud

your rising star can't go two minutes without uttering a lie and that's the best you got Democrats I give you the worst when we come back on Will King Country This is Jason Chaffetz This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason and the House podcast.

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and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding.

It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at Fox Across America.com. All I'm saying is that your pit bull and your chihuahua code to the left. That doesn't mean he is on the left

or the ear on the left. Just when you walk. around other people see you without knowing your dog and go, I guess he's on the left. It is Will Kane Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. We introduced how does your dog breed code. And what code means is how to other people read that about you when you walk around, the reputation that they maintain, the lane that they have defined. Look, man, it's not that I think I'm better than you walk around with a Doberman. It's just that I think I'm better than you.

In all seriousness, I wear vans, checkered vans when I walk my dog. Slipp on checkered vans. I know damn well how that codes. It codes to the left. Look, look, man, it's like avocado toast. You know as well as I do that if you order avocado toast, it tastes great. I love avocado toast. A little bit of poached egg on top with the paprika.

It's incredible. Can I get the whole grain or the, you know, I want the one with a lot of seeds in it, that bread. It's amazing. And then, oh, my, which really throws it off as if you say, can I get bacon on my avocado's? I get it. But you got to understand. When you're at brunch, it codes left.

You might as well be at brunch. Brunch itself codes left. Brunch codes left. You have to understand these things. It's how other people see you. And that's what we're getting into. I'm sorry, and you know it. Everything about you two a days, codes left.

And that doesn't mean you are. But that's what it means to code left. So, in fact, as well. That's your dog breed. I just talked about James Tilarico and said that's the best you got when it comes to Democrats. Let's talk about some of the worst, by the way, which is increasingly not the aberration and not the exception. It is defining the Democrat Party. Let's talk about that with Tom Shaloo, comedian, Fox News contributor.

And by the way, a man who's tour dates and tickets you can check out at tomshaloo.com. What is up, Tom? I love starting with the plug. That's the best way to do things. Absolutely, man. You don't throw it in at the end as a footnote or an addendum. You put it out there right at the top. Now, Will, I'm listening to you.

I don't do avocado toast, but I'm realizing most of my hobbies and likes are probably coded left, okay? Hot yoga. Hot yoga class, I love it. It's very good. No doubt. Hiking. I'm an outdoorsman, but I don't do like snowmobiles.

and I don't do motorboats. I do sailing and I like hiking. You tend to run into left-wingers out there. So, Tom, you're getting it immediately, and a lot of viewers don't, right? They don't get it. They think I'm saying they're on their left. Here's another. I like hiking.

My wife loves hiking, so by extension, I have to like hiking. But I actually do when we do it. I know you're exactly right. Hiking codes left. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I always feel like it's, and I want to be like, Like, I like those guys.

I like the snowmobile guys. I like the ATV guys. But when I'm out in nature, I don't like the motor sports. I like the quiet. That tends, you know, that's like, you know what that is like? It's like the left wingers, right? Right. I mean, anybody watching or listening who kind of still doubts what I'm getting at, I just ask you this.

All right. You show up to the base of some foothills on the edge of a range. And there's two guys there. one is dressed in the padded costume thing that they wear for dirt bikers and he has a helmet and he's pulling off a dirt bike off of a truck trailer and you look at that guy and you think does that guy like Donald Trump on the other hand there's a guy over here walking up with his socks pulled up to his calves some high hiking boots high top hiking boots he's got one of those backpacks with the thing that comes around the front that he can drink water without

ever even having to take anything out. He can just sip a camelback as he goes. And you say to yourself, does that guy like Donald Trump? Now, it may not be fair, but if you're being honest, you know which way you're placing your bets. Yeah. And you know, it's guys like you and me, I think sometimes you're surprised by it because you'll go to Austin or you'll go to someplace and you're in some kind of liberal neighborhood. I was in San Francisco recently. And you don't expect to be recognized because you don't see the Fox News viewers there, the Gutfeld viewers. But then I'll go into a coffee shop and I'll see somebody with tattoos and I'll just make my order. I think I'm going to be anonymous. And they look at me and they say, I watch you every night. And I'm always

surprised when I see the tattoo guy watches Gutfeld. Because that's the opposite. He codes left, but he's right. Oh, man. I love the surprises. I like to think in times you and I are surprises as well in the way that we're sending out our messages out there, but it also applies to your dog breeds. All right, Tom Shaloo with us here on Will Cain Country. I want to run through some of these people, Tom, on a whole host of issues here, actually, from Texas redistricting to the National Guard taking on D.C. police. And I want to get to you some of the response that you're hearing out there. So first of all, this is from MSNBC, and I can't pronounce this guy's name. I think if somebody even said it to me, I wouldn't be able to repeat it back. But he has

a haircut, a little bit like the kid in the Incredibles, or the bad guy kid in Incredibles. You know, it's standing up on end. It looks like a flame. In this guy's case, don't call me buddy. Big, bright silver. Yeah, a big, bright, silver, flamed buddy. Here he is on MSNBC. D.C. does have one really big crime problem, which was the January 6th insurrection incited

by the current President of the United States, and his first act in coming back was pardoning all the people who tried to overturn constitutional republic order in Washington, D.C. When I go to D.C., I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote.

I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is non-existent. Amazing. The responses to this, Tom, are amazing, by the way. It's stuff like, that's exactly what I'm afraid of when I'm walking down U Street at 1 a.m.

Climate change beating me over the head and sending me to the hospital. That reminds me of an old Chris Rock a bit, you know, very early Chris Rock, but he talked about, you know, when he's in a bad neighborhood, he doesn't look overshouldy, he's not afraid of the media. He says, people blame the media for this.

And he's like, I've never been attacked in the, you know, late at night by the media. And this guy is... See, I heard these two sound bites separately. I heard the first part about January 6th yesterday, and then I saw the video of this guy this morning talking about what he's worried about,

and it's interesting because a guy Jonah Goldberg, who kind of annoys me sometimes on Twitter, but he made a great observation that this guy talks the way that characters from the West Wing talk. Like, it's not real politics. It's a TV idea of... of what politics is.

So he says when he's in D.C., he's worrying about, you know, climate change, everything. It's not really true. That's the way that Aaron Sorkin wishes people thought in D.C., but it's not the way real people think. No, it's not. He said that he's mostly worried about losing his right to vote and climate change, and he once again invokes January 6th.

Others have pointed out, oh, my God, like the man who's in the White House is one of the biggest felons in there for cracking down on crime, 34 felons. And again, somebody else said, that's another thing I'm terrified of when I'm walking the street late at night. Somebody classifying expenses as legal expenses. That's exactly what I'm terrified of, the accusation of what Donald Trump did in New York. No, man, we're worried about carjacking and assault.

Yeah, and put it up. I mean, if he wants to take January 6th with such a silly example, but I'll take it. Take January 6th and take the people who were there and even the bad things that happened there, the broken windows and people. getting hurt and the you know whatever put it all up against the the street crime of dc yeah we'll take it of course january 6th pales in comparison to the street crime of dc right that is absolutely true okay it's not just a flame-haired buddy on msnbc it is people who well have one time maintained office but lost several times since it's betto o'rourke who we played yesterday but he's on a tour of dumbfounding statements, I think this is called net roots.

Netroots must be the place they all go to say the most outlandish things on the left. And here, I mean, he triples down when talking about redistricting on. And by the way, triples down and reveals the id. Is it the id that exists below the ego? What he truly believes about rules and power? We are in a basketball game right now, if you'll excuse a metaphor. where the refs have left the arena. And the other side is just clobbering the shit out of it.

It's punching us in the face, kicking us in the nuts. And we're kind of throwing our hands up and we're asking the crowd, the people of America. Hey, do you see what's going on here? This is unfair. This isn't the rules that we agreed to play by. Well, who cares about the rules right now? Punch back, kick back, dunk over their heads,

and win some power. Wow. There you go. Who cares about the rules, win some power? power. I mean, that, I actually think that's what we've been saying is they're driving ideology for like 10 years. And now, I mean, after being called conspiracy theorist, you hear it straight from the words from the mouth of Beto. And don't they admit, I mean, Democrats will admit, they have, they've engaged in redistricting and gerrymandering and

this kind of thing. They're experts at it. My home state of Massachusetts, if you look at the map, it's all blue. Now, when I go home to Massachusetts, I see those ATV guys, and I see those duck hunters, and I see those guys with their pit bulls and dobermans, you know, with their Trump hats on that are coding right. There's entire towns that are right wing. Well, why don't we see that on the map? Why don't we see, you know, a red area or a pink area? Because all the right wingers have been redistricted out of Massachusetts. Yeah, not one. Now one. Now one congressman to reflect that Doberman guy in Massachusetts. This is my point.

The pit bull lady, that's who it is. It's the pit bull lady. She is well represented in Massachusetts. We'll get to that here in a little bit. But Beto's not done, Tom. He's not done. Here is Beto on really what's driving all of this in the end, which is the, it's like they've all been watching a soap opera and they've bought into the plot.

And the only story they ever care about is Donald Trump is Hitler. Watch. Remember, Donald Trump promised us he would be a dictator on day one. He promised us that if you vote in the 2024 elections, that's the last time you'll ever have to cast a ballot. It took Hitler just 53 days to destroy German democracy. Every major turn, every time he exceeded his authority, defied the German constitution, broke down the rule of law in that country. The German press, the German politicians, the German public, most importantly, Did too little, too late.

Man, Beto really is, he does the worst version of everything. You know what I mean? The one that's already been debunked, the one that's already been retired, the one that's already been fact check. Like, that's his song, man. Donald Trump said he'd be a dictator on day one. Donald Trump said, if you vote for him, you'll never have to vote again. I mean...

Yeah, it was almost like... Why is this guy still around? Well, that's the thing. Why do we still have Beto? I'm trying to think of his analogy, because he said, forgive the analogy, and then he compared it to a basketball game where the refs have all left the stadium, right? How about Beto's career is like a guy who has never scored a basket, and somehow he keeps getting drafted? And he's on, you know, he's on your team, and you're

thinking, like, has this guy ever done anything to help this team score? No, but why do we keep him around? And so he's worried about democracy when he's engaged in democracy, and he keeps losing the guys never won an election but he still has the you know he has donors so it's the money keeps coming to betto and now he basically just runs i think what's hey a pack right we'll be right back on will cane country from the fox news podcasts network hey there it's me kennedy make sure to check out my podcast kennedy saves the world it is five days a week every week download and listen at foxnews podcast dot com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast Listen to the all-new Brett Bear podcast featuring Common Ground,

in-depth talks with lawmakers from opposite sides of the aisle, along with all your Brett Bear favorites like his All-Star panel and much more. Available now at foxnewspodcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. Tom, let's figure out why. Let's figure out why real quick. This is just for fun. Okay.

Dude has lost three times. Everything. Governor, Senate, presidency. And to your point, he still is taken seriously. he still has some kind of, I don't know, credibility on the left. Why? Let's just kind of, are you Gen X, Tom? Yes, I'm Gen X.

I'm a little older Gen X. I went to high school in 1984. That was my graduating year. Let's just clarify that. I'm like, Gutfeld, I'm the Gutfeld era. But we are both Gen X. Yeah. Is Gutfeld is Gen X?

I think he's a boomer. I think he's a... He is a Gen Xer because it is 65 to 80. He seems like a Gen Xer. Yeah, it's 1965 to 1980 birth year and Greg is 65.

Okay, well, so two of those just said, Guffield is 64 years old. No, I'm seeing 1964. What's that mean? Oh, 64? 1964? Okay, he's a boomer. Oh, he's a boomer. Oh, he's a boomer. Because he's basically a year older than me, Gutfeld.

And so I thought he was 65, because I'm 66. I was born in 66. You don't want to get, it gets confusing, I think. Everything about Gutfeld, everything about Gutfeld, by the way, reads Gen X. Like, he doesn't read Boomer. He reads Gen X. Right. He codes.

How about that? He codes GenX. And, listen, he codes left as well. I mean, this is a guy who was like, he's a fan of the cramps, and, you know, he wore clash t-shirts in high school. He went to school in San Mateo, so he's Northern California. He was in school

with Barry Bonds and Tom Brady and he was your typical leftist until college and he started to drift rightward. Yeah, you're totally right that he codes left. I think

he would admit that, right? Yeah. By the way, he crushed it on Fallon. How about the ratings? Right? Unbelievable. I mean the Fallon ratings the highest they've been in a year, still lower than the Will Kane show. We should just clarify that much lower, actually, than the Will Kane show. But that's not the point.

The point is it was a high watermark for Fallon. Yes. I mean, it says something about culture. It does. Greg is willing to give some credit to the Jonas Brothers, but he is taking some credit for himself. That was, you know, kind of a juggernaut. Jonas Brothers, to open the show,

and then Greg Gutfeld. And, you know, to be honest, Let's, I think there is a certain amount of crossover between Jonas Brothers because their, you know, their audience, it's not 17-year-olds anymore. It's people who were once 17, but now they're 35. And I think those same people are tuning it to Gutfeld at 10 o'clock. And this was huge. For Greg, it was huge for Jimmy Fallon. Look, I've been on Fallon 20 times myself.

But I'm not the cultural figure that Greg is. Greg is a major conservative who's known for being conservative. Jimmy has them on the show. and the real story for this will is not that Greg is making all these headlines and Jimmy Fallon got great ratings when Greg was on the show. It's that they are still at BuzzFeed.

I printed out the articles for Greg. BuzzFeed, Vulture, and the Daily Beast are still writing hit pieces. So they're trying to shame Jimmy Fallon. They're saying Jimmy Fallon kisses the conservative ring. Oh, Jimmy Fallon, he's like an enabler of right-wing, you know, whatever. It's not going to work. A couple of years ago,

Daily Beast would write a hit piece on you and you would kneel down and say, I'm sorry, it doesn't work anymore. That's the story. For what I hear, Tom, the Daily Beast is writing a piece right now about I cut the interview short on James Tilarico, completely false. The Daily Beast isn't to be taken seriously. And to your point, I don't think anybody does, right? Like, I mean, it has no cultural power whatsoever.

Yeah, but they did. I don't think Vulture does. No, but they used to. I'm telling you, when I was hosting Red Eye, they would, you know, things would happen on the show and they would write a hit piece on it and take a. out of context so we did have some controversies and people had to you know they would go around they call people they phone them and they say you know did you hear what this guy said on on this shit that's unacceptable we'll never book him on our show again so they engaged in

essentially what do you call it like they in the cancel the cancel culture and it worked and it worked on people like me and i had i was still i had one foot in show business back then and i had casting directors who said we can't work with that guy anymore That doesn't happen anymore. Okay. All right. I have not forgotten that we're talking about Gen X Beto. That's where I was headed.

But we're going to come back to that. Trust me, I understand the weave. I understand how to weave. I've taken lessons from President Donald Trump. Actually, it comes naturally. But talking about the cultural power and cancelation. Now I want to ask you about Sidney for a moment because this came up, Tom. I think it's a UGov poll.

And it showed only 14% of people actually were upset about the Sydney Sweeney ad and suggesting she somehow a Nazi now, right? She's into eugenics. So I've heard people say this, Tom. Actually, sometimes I use as my barometer, these lefty sports broadcasters in Dallas, Texas, who kind of, for some reason, historically at least, got to define what is mainstream culture. And they were making the point, nobody actually cared about Sidney Sweeney. And at the right, the implication being at the right, manufactured it as outrage bait, rage bait.

The right? Nobody cared. that's what the suggestion is like there aren't there weren't a significant percentage of Americans who actually cared you found internet trolls you found TikTok comments and so forth that's not true by the way it was laundered laundered with credibility through mainstream figures it was absolutely done so now even that that's the case and only 14% actually were upset by Sidney's ad my argument is five years ago that 14% controlled the culture That, it was always a radical minority.

It always was. You know, you're not getting the Hollywood casting thing, the power of vulture or whatever. It always was representative of a minute fraction of America. But it carried cultural weight on X or wherever else, right? And if, and that's how we got these radical points of view. And I was at ESPN, Tom. And it's like, okay, I'm saying something. I know not to just be rational, but most people believe.

and this dude's over here saying that women should be in men's sports or men should be in women's sports and acting like that's the position of normalcy. Yeah. My point is on the Sydney-Sweeney thing, the story now is that 14% don't have power. But never forget that five years ago they had all the power to define our culture. Yeah, and when people did polling after that Sydney-Sweeney thing, people would write these kind of think pieces on it. And they would ask people, they would say Cindy Sweeney was talking about genes and using coded language that reflected the idea of eugenics, which was popular in the early 20th century. Do you agree with the idea of eugenics?

And people would say, no, I find it offensive. And they would say, people offended by Sidney Sweeney. You see? So they engineer this thing. They talk to people. They get their feedback. And then they, you know, because the articles that mentioned this Sydney Sweeney thing, they didn't say, oh, this is an ad for genes where she used, you know, a homophone for genes and everyone got the joke.

They said Sidney Sweeney was advocating eugenics in her commercial. Do you agree or disagree? I think it's crazy. It is crazy. All right, this takes us full circle with Tom Schlute. Why do you think Beto is still a thing? I'm genuinely, like, fascinated by this. And, you know, when he came out, there was this famous photo of him.

And I can't remember if it was like in Texas Monthly or Vanity Fair. and he was like out in the Texas countryside with a pickup truck and a Labrador Retriever. Yep, Vanity Fair. A shirt like I'm wearing now, I think. Maybe something like that. He looked like, you know, one could argue he looked Kennedy-esque in some way, a Texas version of Kennedy-esque. He also had this Gen X vibe, right? Didn't he used to skateboard out onto the stage here and there?

And it was like, oh, he's so cool. And it's like the image, the image was so compelling. to the left. Like, they love that Gen X Beto. It's like a CD, back of the day when we bought CDs. Like the cover art was so awesome that everybody thought, this is going to be amazing. And then the music, the CD itself sucked. Right? It was awful. And I think that they're just still caught up in the CD art. They're still caught up in the image of Beto in some way, even though clearly he's a loser. Yeah. I think it is, you said, Kennedy asked, that's really a key to this whole thing. Democrats knew they had a savior in

Obama, because this was Obama, this was a guy, and he could appeal to a broad swath of Americans, and of course he did. He got elected twice, right? They are looking because they still think that people on the right and people from Texas, conservatives, are racist. And so they're looking for someone who embodies that kind of energy of Obama, but because they think the right is racist and they will never embrace a, you know, another. another black or ethnic candidate. They're looking for that white guy, that Kennedy-esque guy. And think of Beto as a startup.

He was like a startup that got a lot of money put on him. People put a lot of bets on him. That's why he got the Vanity Fair and he was on Rolling Stone and everything else. And they thought, this is the future of our party because we're not going to be able to appeal to those hicks unless we have a guy that embodies the Democratic Party but is a white guy because they think that conservatives are all racist and sexist. So he was their startup and he's still banking on that. He's still got that money. His, you know, his stock price has gone down, but he still has investors and backers. All right, Tom Slu, at the

front and back. If you want his tickets and schedule, his tour dates, go to Tom Shaloo, S-H-I-L-U-E.com. Check him out, as always, on or on X. Tom, it's always great to talk to you, man. Thanks for hanging out with me today. Thank you. Good to talk to you. All right. You're welcome. Let's settle it, okay? Like, does your dog code left? And Major League Baseball MVP, Josh Hamilton, sat with us earlier this week. You're going to hear that layer this week, but we're going to play a clip for you on Will Kane Country. I'm Janice Dean. Join me every Sunday as I focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcast.com.

liberal red or blue your dog and the bracket coming up here on will cane country a little bit earlier this week i was excited i got to sit down with major league baseball MVP texas ranger legend josh hamilton everybody who knows baseball is even i think even a casual fan probably remembers josh hamilton actually let's put that to the test two a days dan tinfoil pat hop in here to the country um am i right i and with both of you. We all talked about earlier this week. Two of a day's turn around.

Young Connor, 23 years old is behind you. Ask him, does he know Josh Hamilton? You know who Josh Hamilton is. He does not. He does not know who Josh Hamilton is. I know. Not sports, not politics, not news.

Not pop culture, he told us. Will you turn around and ask Connor what he does know about? What are his passions? Passions. It's not a fuddywop for sure. He knows a lot of politics, I think. He knows a lot about politics. History.

History. He likes history. He fits in here with history. History. Yeah. Roman Empire? We'll do a history test. We'll do a history test.

We'll do a history test. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah. Josh Hamilton was an absolute study. By the way, I'll tell you guys, I mean, 6 foot 4, 250. I said to Josh, what do you weigh? He said 250. I mean, he's just big.

He's big. And I'm like, what did you weigh in your playing days? He goes, 250. Okay, okay. I didn't mean to insult. And he goes, by the end of the season, I weighed $2.25. And I was like, really? He's like, dude, sweating that Texas heat for 162 games, you shed 25 pounds.

I'm like, wow. Hamilton has had, he has an amazing life story up to now as we talked about it. I mean, I want you to go ahead and subscribe, if you would, on Spotify or Apple, because he tells the story of being in his grandma's house, smoking crack. His grandma coming in the room. He says, I remember when she opened the door, I could see the crack smoke filling up her entire house. She comes in. She's crying, talking about how he's lost his life and everywhere he is.

And he said, I was still high, but it hit for some reason. And he threw the Bible onto the bed, and it fell up into a verse. That verse spoke to him. And from that day forward, he followed the path of the Lord. He says he has had relapses, all of which are famous, by the way, almost all of which. And he talks about all of that with us. And you're going to need to subscribe on Apple or Spotify to get that conversation this Friday. But when he was honored this last weekend at the Texas Rangers Hall of Fame, he was given his blue jacket, a lot of people.

Like, how dare you honor this, like this guy? And why did they say that? Because he was accused of child abuse, I'm going to say six years ago, six years ago, to which, by the way, he pled guilty. And honestly, I knew he didn't want to talk about it. And I wasn't going to press him on it. in the conditions of the interview or anything like that, but then he brought it up. And I think in a lot of ways, might have said things he's never said before. So in that way, it's a bit of breaking news.

Here's what he had to say about that. This kind of addresses a little bit of what happened with my daughter. And I've been quiet on it. And I'm going to say quiet because I've already promised the interview to somebody else. When my daughter's younger two graduate high school, because I don't want them to deal with all the crap that goes along with back and forth in the media and stuff like that. But just imagine being accused of something you didn't do, and then having to, let's see, you have proof that you didn't, so you can clear it up your innocence, but then having to decide because you got a DA that's in the election year and can't look like just going light on you.

So you've got to decide, okay, am I going to drag? my daughter who claimed this in front of a jury in a courtroom. Am I going to drag my other two younger daughters in there and they'll have to testify and everything? Or am I going to be a good dad? I'm going to fall on the proverbial sword here for my family and shut this thing down when it comes to them and keep them out of the media and keep out of a back and forth with my ex and the media, and let them live their life and move on and take the hit for it. So I don't know the truth. I don't know what happened.

We didn't talk about it long, but that was the first I'd heard of his side of that story. As he suggested in the future with somebody else, he plans to address this more fully. I thought that was one of, one of the fascinating moments we had. with Josh Hamilton. Meanwhile, over on our social media, this has been an ongoing debate. How does your dog code left or right? Two of a days, Dan and Ellie Palmer,

they have created a bracket. Now, how deep did you start the bracket? How many dogs did you place into the bracket to start? Is it only eight, Dan? So it's, yeah, just eight. I found that we just need to keep it a little simpler, so it goes on for a little bit long. But we had, you can see it up on your screen now. It's Golden Retriever, German Shepherd, Doberman Pincher, Border Colley, Rottweiler, Beagle, Labrador Retriever, and Great Pyrenees.

Right. Okay. Those are the dogs you gave us as options, and you have advanced, it appears, to the finals. In the semifinals, you had. the golden retriever, the border collie, which beat the Doberman, as to which dog is most conservative, and the Labrador and the Beagle, that was your final four, it appears. And then your finals have come down to the Golden Retriever versus the Labrador, which is your most conservative dog. And I think you're in a good spot here. I mean, I think you are in the range of the most conservatively coated dog. Let's revisit for a minute what I mean by code.

Because I get text. I saw all your social media comments. I also got a lot of texts. People would be like, what are you talking about? My chihuahua is conservative or my pit bulls. I'm not talking about your dog, okay? We're talking about how your dog codes, right? And what does code mean?

Code means like, you know, what the breed gives off. I've given a lot of examples today. Avocado toast. Codes left. Checkered slip on vans. Code left. Cowboy boots, real ones. Code right. Not your Brooklyn version, but your real ones, code right. There's a lot of wranglers code right. I don't know what else, but, you know, we all know what we're getting at.

It's when you look at something. You know, I like salmon. Salmon codes left. You know, steak codes right. Salmon, fish? Oh, yeah. When I used to go out to dinner with Pete, Rachel, if I didn't. order a steak, they'd be like, what's wrong with you? You know, you lefty? I'm not saying I agree with all this. I'm just saying it is. Vegetarianism?

Vegetarianism? is that, that's left? I mean, that's, that's Antifa, dude. That's like, you're, you're a full on communist. That's, that's, that's Stalin, that's Lenin. Don't get mad. I understand there are vegetarians on the right. I'm just telling you what you're giving off.

Like, if you're at a party and everybody's making, burgers and you're like actually I'm vegetarian do you have like a tofu burger just at that moment you know as well as I do you have to go no no no but for real I like Donald Trump I mean like everybody thinks a certain thing you know Patrick tinfoil pad I mean he's basically all right but sitting on his table behind him he's got a bunch of records that he literally has vinyl that code left but by vinyl codes left you collect vinyl here's one codes left. Here's one. Tattoes. Left or right? No. No. Can't be done. I don't think it...

Everyone has tattoos now. You could do other things. Yeah. They're too popular. Okay. Nose ring codes left. Yes. Right? Oh yeah. Like, for sure. Blue hair. Especially the bull ring right there in the middle. Pink hair. Yeah, right. Right. So the point is we get it. Right. blue hair obviously

I don't I don't even know what else No no no any color that's like not natural Not died naturally occurring Not dyed blonde A blue Yeah you can't do blonde Died blonde codes right For women

What about a dude that bleaches his hair blonde Oh that's fully left That's fully left That's like L.A That's like L.A hipster Trying to be cool yeah yeah here's one soccer codes left yeah i love soccer love it that codes lots of things soccer codes left right football codes right um we we we know what the coding means and your dog does

as well so yeah i'm sorry your pit bull does code left because it has become the uh the rescue dog you know the single white female i can i can i can him dog right that's that's what it is i mean it's got some other stereotypes that it plays into but that's sort of what's become the dominant thing um from pit bulls and you know same thing like chihuahuas it's not even about how your dog behaves everybody's like oh my dog lays around all day and expects to be fed basically he's a welfare dog he's on the left yeah well all dogs are you know i mean in that in that way you know um my dog barks when somebody comes to the is super protective. Yeah, I get it, but, you know, all dogs kind of do that. So it's about

just kind of like the style and the reputation of your dog. That's what we're talking about. And I do think that in your bracket here, Dan, you probably have arrived at the two most right-coded dogs. My only thing is, I think, one is the clear winner. Yeah, I mean, German Shepherd is up there, and one could argue the German Shepherd should have who you had matched up against the golden retriever should have won. Because I think Patrick said it best, like, the golden retriever is at best center right. You know, the golden retriever doesn't think about politics a lot. But culturally, you can tell everything about him leans to the right. He's not overwhelmingly.

You know, he's a Bush Republican, you know. He's a, he's a, he's, I don't know, the golden retriever. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Does he even read National Review? I'm not even sure he reads National Review. He does the crossword on paper, like on the actual paper. Yeah.

I mean, the Golden Retriever still drives a truck and he drinks Coors Light. You know, he does all of those things. The Golden Retriever doesn't drink an IPA. He's not at a Brooklyn brunch. He doesn't do any of those things. But he's also just not into it, man. And he's like, he's pretty sure everybody's crazy and he's just the common sense guy. The lab, and you specifically have up the black lab, he for sure codes right.

Because he is, the black lab in particular is a dog with a purpose. And that purpose is hunting. Like that's the ultimate duck dog. More than the yellow lab, more than the chocolate lab. Yes. The black lab is, like, I understand people have black labs as pets and that thing, but that thing should be pointing out a duck somewhere in the freezing cold at 5.30 a.m. over a frozen pond. That's what he should be doing. And there is nothing about him that is on the left. I mean, I do think the German Shepherd could have been in there. The Doberman is, he codes pretty well to the right.

I would argue maybe even more so than the Rottweiler, because I think that the Rottweiler, because I think that the Rottweiler has, it's not the Rottweiler's fault, but he has some faux tough guy thing that, the faux tough guy, you know, that has the barbed wire tattoo on his bicep. Tribal. That guy's a little harder to predict. Yeah. Like, sometimes he could be on the left and sometimes he could be on the right,

and that's the guy with the Rottweiler. Either way, we don't like him. Yeah, no. And I'm unconvinced about the beagle. You put the beagle in there. I don't know. About, yeah, I'm not sure. A lot of people voted for a beagle.

But that's where the bracket stands. The he, that the beagle is conservative? The traditionalist. And how'd you pick a great Pyrenees to put in there? They're the most, they're the most protector dogs. They protect the herd and the cattle and all that. All right. Well, before we go today, we had quite a start to the show.

I had a lot to say about what went down yesterday on the Will Cain show with James Talariko, the rising star of the Democrat Party. And you jumped into the comments as well. So I wanted to bring you in. Here's what folks said in the Willisha over on, most of this is on YouTube. Alec Colley says, Will is a bit riled up. Love the passion. Yeah. You know, there's something about questioning my integrity that really tease me off.

The Dr. RJP says, remember Obama's pastor, Jeremiah, right? Yeah, real paragon of virtue. Yeah, cloaking ourselves in pastorhood. Suzanne Niko says, James Tolariko said he doesn't even think his party is true to why he is a Democrat. Like, why identified to a party that once was, but is no more? Sasha Savisha says, Democrat approval rating is at an all-time low. Don't let up, Will. Warrior Hill says, Will took a break so he could take his blood pressure meds.

And then Rebel Senator says, heck no, they don't care about the truth. We will tell the truth right here. And I will do so again a little bit later. Make sure you tune in at 4 o'clock. More of that, I promise you. I'll take my blood pressure meds on the Wilcane show. Until then, Fox News, Facebook, Fox News, YouTube, Wilcane Country, YouTube, Spotify, Apple. We'll see again next time.

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