Will Cain Country - Is Radical Islam Taking Over NYC? Rep. Brandon Gill on Mamdani

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

When someone calls you Islamophobic, what do they really mean?Congressman Brandon Gill (R-TX) joins to answer that question, and to explain the reasoning behind his belief that Islamic values are incompatible with those of America. Rep. Gill breaks down how those on the Left use the term “islamophobia” as a deflection tool against genuine concerns surrounding the integration of the Islamic faith, while simultaneously being the first to criticize Christians for practicing their faith.Plus, Will and The Crew discuss the allegations that Secretary of War Pete Hegseth consumed over $6 Million worth of lobster within one month and the Baltimore Ravens backing out of a trade deal for Maxx Crosby.Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What is Islamophobia with Congressman Brandon Gill? And how much can you spend on lobster and steak, Secretary of War, under fire? But at least now we know how he benches 315. It's Will Cain Country at the Will Cain Country YouTube channel, the Will Cain Facebook page, Terrestrial Radio, always here for you to follow at Spotify or on Apple. Congressman Brandon Gill may very well be the best cross-examiner in Washington, D.C. His clips have gone viral on numerous occasions. He has grilled witnesses in ways that seem inescapable.

Here is just a little taste of Congressman Branding Gill cross-examining in congressional hearings, a witness. Watch. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier, I believe much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade. It has evolved. Why did you tweet that? I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say. Okay. Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy? I don't believe that, sir.

You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time, apparently. apparently the case for reparations. I don't think I've ever read that book, sir. He tweeted about it. Congressman Brandon Gill there, cross-examining the head of NPR, Catherine Marr. Joining us now is Congressman Brandon Gill here on Will Cuncuttery. What's up, Congressman?

Hey, good morning, well. Good to be with you. Good to be with you. I hope you don't put me on the witness stand. I hope you don't start asking me very pointed and direct questions, asking me for affirmation. Do you believe X will? yes or no.

That does seem to be a little bit of the game plan. You do have often a series of statements or beliefs that have been espoused by someone in the past and now, embarrassingly, they do not want to admit to. But that's not your only technique, man. You keep getting people. You keep getting people with these pointed questions. That wasn't a question, Congressman. That was just a statement. Yeah, it's, you know.

No, how is it, how is it that you keep getting people with this technique? Yeah, you know, I think it's one of those things where you have so many people who come in and they, a few things. One, they just simply don't prepare. You know, it's like if you're going into a congressional hearing, especially whenever, you know, the stakes are high. Like Catherine Marr, the clip that you just played, I mean, we were considering defunding NPR, taking away hundreds of millions of dollars of tax revenue that they were. every year. You would think that she would do her homework and actually prepare before a congressional hearing. But I think, you know, broadly speaking, you've got people like her, and she's really the perfect example, who whenever woke was, you know, woke was predominant,

whenever that was the popular thing, at least on the left, said just some of the most outlandish things that you can possibly imagine, like, you know, America's addicted to white supremacy, suggesting that all white people inherently feel superior to other races. I mean, things that are just absolutely insane. And, you know, whenever you just ask him about it now, they don't want to admit that that's what they actually believe. It's interesting because I feel like that's playing itself out right now, and you've been on top of this as have many people.

But with, he's what, state congressman? Is he state senator, James Talarico? He's a representative, James Tolariko. but he's now the nominee for Senate, for Democrats, to the United States Senate. And the same thing. I mean, his track record is littered with these insane statements from 2020, 2021, 2022. Yeah, I mean, this is a guy who, you know, again, whenever woke was predominant, jumped on to every single, you know, crazy ideology that was popular on the left,

no matter how insane it was, you know, talking about God is non-binary, how prisons are violence, just things that are like brain dead idiocy. But we're popular for a long time. And now that the national mood has shifted, the American people, I mean, just completely, unambiguously rejected woke in the last cycle. So the left wants to move away from all of this. But now, you know, somebody like Tala Rico has this massive track record. And I think that it, you know, it's our job to ask him, you know, do you really believe all this crazy stuff that you said? And I think for, in his case, the answer is yes. I mean, it's funny that everybody, you know, prior to Tala Rico getting the nomination,

everybody thought that Jasmine Crockett was the crazy one. And he was the, you know, the more moderate choice for Democrats to pick. I mean, the reality is that Tala Rico is far to the left of even Jasmine Crockett. Yeah, that's no doubt. He is much further left than Jasmine Crockett. But he pulls it off. He seems to, at least so far, get away with it. And I guess that's probably a product of both his demeanor and that he wraps, insanely, he wraps most of these far-left ideas up in Christianity.

He justifies his far-woke positions, far-left-woke positions, as exhibiting his true dedication to Christianity. Yeah, I mean, this is a guy, I mean, if you think about how would Satan, how would beelze, above talk. If they were a politician, it's basically exactly what James Talarico says, the same type of stuff. You know, talking about how the enunciation is evidence that God is pro-abortion. I mean, these are really, really repulsive ideas to any, to any Christian, but I think really to any American. And yet that's the kind of stuff that he espouses all the time. I mean, I just has a long track record of this stuff. But if you, if you know, he sounds good to

point. He's somebody who sounds reasonable. He talks in a tone that sounds reasonable. But whenever you listen to what he's actually saying, the content of his words, not just a nice looking guy saying, you know, giving political speeches, what he's saying is incredibly dark. I mean, this is a guy with a very, very dark worldview that I think, you know, again, most Americans, certainly most Texans find a deeply offensive. You know, I've, I've, I've, I've, quoted this on several occasions. Congressman, I think it's probably true, and I've always attributed it wherever I first read it to Ronald Reagan's communication advisor, who said something like the following. It's 80% how you look. It's 15% how you sound, and only 5% of what you

say. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, but when you're talking to people, this is how they're sort of consuming you. They're first watching TV or seeing you in person and they're primarily preoccupied with how you look. That doesn't mean that being the best-looking person is the only factor that matters. It could be any number of things about how you look. You look appealing, unappealing, sloppy, put together, a lot of things. And then that tone, the way you communicate, covers up basically the rest of it. And the actual substance of what you have to say is very little of what people pay attention to.

to the point of talarico i wonder if the that substance the actual craziness that he's saying will break through if it's only five percent of what people are hearing i wonder if the people of texas will actually hear the actual substance yeah that that's that's an interesting point and i think that it's you know if you look at you know take just for example some of the videos that tallor rico will put online or mom donnie is another good example of the point that that you're making, I think. And they look, they're designed in a way that looks like sort of classic Americana.

You know, you can see the lens angle, the tinting of the coloring in the videos, the way it, the whole production looks very classic. And yet we'll say things that, you know, 20 years ago would get you completely kicked out of public life. So I do think that there's something to that. But I mean, our job,

on the Republican side is to make sure that people do hear what what Tal RICO has been saying. I mean, we're gonna pound this into the ground. I mean, this is a guy who, you know, for years has basically, he's like a walking R&C ad for us. You just take all of this crazy stuff spliced together and throw it on TV so people can actually see the content of this and I think that will win.

But that's something that the left does a lot is they will take really grotesque ideas and dress them up. I mean, take the transgender movement. You're talking about castrating young children, and yet the left will find a way to dress this up as if they're the side that is actually kind and humane. So our job is just to get the message out

that that's not actually, you know, it may sound good, but that's not reality. That's not the truth. And the counterpoint would be, and this is why he's so often compared to him, but Beto O'Rourke, That's why people are calling Taurico sort of Beto O'Rourke 2.0

or a fun-sized Beto O'Rourke because Beto covered the 80% of how you look. I don't know if Beto pulled off the how you sound thing because he kind of did a little more of an angry thing. He did a lot of yelling and cussing, if you'll remember. And that doesn't really work in the same way. But the whole package didn't work for Beto multiple times over.

He failed. Yeah, it didn't, you know, in every single cycle, Democrats start, in Texas at least, Democrats start talking about flipping the state blue. You know, they're always focused on the Senate race. It was Beto O'Rourke, and it was Colin all red. It's never worked. And I think that, you know, there is a point. What was that? Wendy Davis.

Yeah. Do you remember Wendy Davis in her pink shoes, her pink tennis shoes that she went down on to the floor with and it became all the rage on the left? You're right. I mean, they've picked these saviors in Texas on a rotating basis. And that's the point, I think, too, is that they pick these people. You know, it's like there's a Democrat, you know, political machine that decides who do we think is the next candidate. It's not voted on by, or, you know, ultimately it's voted on in a primary, but it's, you know, they take candidates that their whole apparatus has promoted aggressively. And there is something sort of undemocratic about the way Democrat primaries operate, especially in Texas. It's like, this is the new superstar.

It's James Talarico. We're going to ignore all this stuff that he said, and we're going to dress him up and pretend like he's a moderate. And we're going to get him on Joe Rogan. We're going to get him on all of these late night talk shows. We're going to create fake scandals about people supposedly trying to censor what he's saying. And we're going to raise a whole bunch of money from big Democrat donors because he sounds good. They did similar things with Colin Al-Rad. They did similar things with Beto O'Rourke.

Those were supposed to be the next big Democrat stars. I mean, I think at one point, people were talking about Beto O'Rourke being like the new JFK. But again, that's all top down from the Democrat Party, and then the people reject them ultimately in November. I was looking up you on Wikipedia. You look at a pia. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so then if you scroll down here to political positions, okay? First it talks about the border. Second subject, Islam. Okay, first line. Gil has made a series of remarks characterized as Islamophobic. What is Islamophobic?

You know, it's one of those things, well, first of all, it's funny that they say it's not a series of remarks. that were Islamophobic, it's just characterized as Islamophobic. Islamophobia is one of those things that the left uses as a cudgel to beat Republicans into submission. You know, I don't think that it's, that it's, you know, in Islamophobia suggests that there's something irrational about fear of my community being completely turned into an Islamic caliphate. That's not an irrational fear or an irrational concern. And yet the left will frame. that as some sort of bigotry. What I've talked about a lot, and this is something that I hear

from constituents all the time, is I am deeply concerned with Texas or the United States becoming more Islamic. We've had mass Islamic immigration into the United States for several decades now. That is changing our culture. It's changing our communities. You know, it is bringing Islamic terrorism into our borders. That's just a reality. We wouldn't have Islamic terrorism in the United if we didn't have Islam, and we wouldn't have Islam if it weren't for our immigration policy, particularly recently. But the left wants to frame those legitimate concerns as Islamophobic as a way of sort of scaring Republicans or conservatives, or just everyday Americans into thinking that we're

supposed to accept every crazy, you know, crazy, stupid idea that the left has. the same way that they'll refer to Christians as homophobic or, you know, whatever other slur that they can use. But it is kind of funny that that's one of the things that Wikipedia, of all places, picks up on. Well, the phobia thing is an interesting rhetorical trick. So the phobia thing, which technically and literally means fear of, but set aside that because that's not really what's trying to be communicated. When you say somebody is something phobic, you're not really trying to say that they're afraid of something. You are trying to say that they are bigoted towards something. Right. Transphobic, homophobic. And it's all built on the architecture of racist. So you

start with racist and you apply the same sort of framework onto other groups. And so you start with the idea, well, Congressman Gill or Will, whoever, they don't like black people. It's an irrational, hate-filled emotion that they have, and therefore they're racist. And then you use that same thing, and you go, okay, now apply it to gays. Homophobia. Now apply to transphobia. Now apply to Muslims. Islamophobia.

But along the process there, what at least by the stage you get to Islamophobia, and you could argue it probably hits earlier, you're ignoring the fact that Islamophobia in particular is a criticism of ideas, a particular set of ideas. So those ideas are part of a religion and an ideology. And so by applying that architecture of racism to it, you've totally neutered the ability to criticize ideas. You can no longer say, hey, I think it's better that you don't implement the death penalty for adultery because that would be, Islamophobic, you know, or any all host of other things that we could, we could highlight that are ideas within Islam, and it's not really even just extreme versions of Islam. We have the stats on this. Like, it's not just the like, the escape patch is always the radical Islamist and all

that. And yeah, of course, them. But there are ideas within broader Islam that deserve criticism, and they can't be swept away with Islamophobia. Yeah, I mean, that's extremely well said. is that this is a way of controlling the way either Republican politicians or pundits or just the American people think about any given subject. If you cannot openly suggest that there's a problem with the Islamization of Texas, for instance, there's no way to oppose this.

But you're right, this is not just a radical Islam problem. There's a study that was done by the Heritage Institute. I think it came out a couple of years ago in 2024 that found that 39% of American Muslims believe that Sharia law should be implemented in the United States. The same poll found that just a staggering number, I think it was half of American Muslims,

believe that it should be illegal to depict the prophet Muhammad. I mean, those are radical ideas in the West. Those are ideas that I think most people would say that are incompatible with our own, conception of freedom of speech and our own constitutional liberties that we enjoy freedom of religion every day. But for the left, it takes something like that, which is just an observable fact per this study, and say that anybody who is concerned about that is Islamophobic is a way, it's like a mind control. It's a way of quelling any kind of opposition to what they're, what they've been pushing.

Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with Congressman Brandon Gill here on Will Kane Country. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52 episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus. A listening experience that will provide hope, comfort, and understanding of the greatest story ever told. Listen and follow now at Fox Newspodcasts.com or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. We're still hanging out with Congressman Brandon Gill. Okay, but then the other, the other prism through which this is, filtered, both on the receiving end and on the pushing end, if you understand what I'm saying, is through the freedom of religion as you just brought up. Like, well, you know, Muslims have

these sets of beliefs, but they're perfectly entitled to those under the Constitution of the United States and the First Amendment. So if you criticize this religion or the tenants within this religion, congressman, then you are, you know, somehow not embracing the concept of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Yeah, and that's that's something that the left is going to try to, you know, be, again, beat us into submission with. You know, you get, I get questions a lot, even even in Texas, because we do have a mass Islamic migration into the DFW area. I was talking to a city manager of a small town in my district, and he was saying that they've got, and this is rural Texas, have an Islamic center in their downtown area. And they're

concerned that if that Islamic center starts blaring out calls to prayer, that they're going to have to ban both church bells and calls to prayer because they can't pick one. And that's sort of the, I think, the dilemma that the left wants to put us in. You know, it's either become more Islamic or become entirely secular. But there's a few things that I think we need to be straightforward forward about. One is that our entire Western civilization was built on Judeo-Christian principles and values, including the United States being the apex of Western civilization. And those are the values that undergird our constitutional system. And whenever you bring in cultures, you can call it a religion, you can call it political Islam, if you want to differentiate it from the religious,

you know, sort of strictly religious aspects. But an ideology that has political prescriptions, which are fundamentally contrary to our own value system, you cannot have a coherent society anymore. I mean, again, the reality is that Islam has very different conceptions. Islam is a political ideology, a very different conception of freedom of speech than we do in the U.S. Very different conception of freedom of religion than we do in the U.S. Just look at apostasy laws, for instance, in the Islamic world. Very different conception of separation. of church and state or mosque in state, and you can even see that in the U.S. with that poll that found that 39% of American Muslims want Sharia law implemented here.

Very different idea of the role in dignity of women in society than we do in America. I mean, these are ideologies that fundamentally do not comport. And I think we've got to be straightforward, and at least particularly on an immigration angle, say that we have no obligation to import ideologies that. undermine our own culture and our own governing system. Okay, you're 100% right. And I think, I'm sure there's some people listening that don't agree, but I think many, many, many do.

The diagnosis side, okay? But then there is the side that gets more difficult, Congressman, and that is the, what do you do about it? Okay, if we can recognize that the cultural and religious underpinnings of Islam do not match and probably cannot coexist with the cultural underpendings of the United States. States of America and the principles embodied, even the Constitution of, so, you know, Gadsad talks about us a lot, like, is it a suicide pact? Because the more that Islam's tenants grow, the more it erodes the thing that's protecting those tenants, which is the Constitution of the United

States. Okay. But then there is, what do you do about it? Okay, so let's take immigration for a moment and set it aside, because I do want to have that conversation with you. But like that small town in Texas. And your district comes, I believe Denton. Don't you have Denton? I've got most of Denton County, not the city of Denton, but most of the county. Okay. For those listening to Don't understand, the reason I bring that up is, I mean, Denton is a really growing suburb of Fort Worth. It hasn't historically been a suburb. It's becoming a suburb before. It's a big city. It's where the University of North Texas is. So I didn't know if that's where you were talking about or where you might be talking about.

But I've talked about this with smaller. Smaller. I've talked about this with Attorney General Ken Paxton. I've talked about this with Governor Greg Abbott. They're, you know, particularly Abbott is getting a lot of heat for this growth. And then Paxton's been, you know, tweeting lately and he's been pushed in the past about like the epic city development outside of DFW. But there, you know, if you have that conversation, what they will say is two things. One, the state doesn't have a lot of control over this stuff.

Like, what is it going to be? Zoning laws? Like, what are we going to do? And then those zoning laws are going to run head first in to the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. And so we'll get, you and I will come back to immigration a minute. But what do you do? Like, what do you do with that small town that's concerned about that church bells versus

call to worship? Yeah, I think that there's, again, putting immigration aside, and we can come back to that because I do think that is the root problem. I think that there's two things. One is being more clear on an ideological level what we believe, and then there's the practical response. So one is, to use this example, what is the difference between church bells and an Islamic call to prayer? And I think we as Americans can say, well, one of these, and as Christians, we can say one of these reflects that which is good, true, and beautiful, and the other does not. One of these, I think we can say as Americans,

is something that is deeply, culturally, and historically rooted in the United States, something that has been a part of American history and American society forever. One of them is not. I think we can say one of these fundamentally undergirds our constitutional system. In other words, it is the Judeo-Christian belief system that props up our constitutional system, whereas the Islamic political Islam does not. It undermines our constitutional system. But that's going to help you culturally.

I get that. I get that. And that'll help you. I don't know what that will do for you legally, though, Congressman. Like, does that help you in any way make a law or make an argument at the Supreme Court of United States? So on a practical level, again, putting immigration aside, what you see with a lot of these, whether it's Epic City and Plano, or you see.

or probably some of these Islamic cities as well, as they're being funded by foreign entities, oftentimes who have connections to terrorist organizations. So I think that our government can be a whole lot more clear about labeling groups like CARE, the Committee or Council on American Islamic Relations as a terrorist organization to cut off funding to build these Islamic centers,

to stop these from popping up all over the country. That's one way is to go out is to go after the funding structure. Another way I think is that there is a local level of zoning laws that can be done. What you've seen in a lot of these areas is that foreign groups like care or something else come in and they end up buying off local politicians,

the mayors and the city councilmen, and they do this as part of a long-term plan so that they can get their zoning approved for their mosque or whatever else they want. But I do think that being clear, about these foreign groups, or domestic groups that are engaged in this and their connection to terrorist organizations, it's going to be probably the primary nexus on a practical level for stopping this. Does that make sense?

Yeah. I think it's going to be really difficult. Yeah, I do. I just think it's difficult. And I think that everybody that's upset about it has a right to be upset. And like the arguments of it, yeah, 100%. These two things are not compatible. But what can you actually do is going to be very, very difficult to stop it because of the First Amendment. That's it. Now, which backs us into the thing that you can do, at least theoretically, and that's focus on immigration and controlling the kind of people and the amount of people that come in from different places. Yeah, that's right. I think, you know, to go back to your point, just really quickly here, I do think that you can differentiate between Islam and political Islam, political Islam being a set of,

ideology is that you could treat the same way that you would treat, you know, any other subversive group, like a communist organization that's popping up or any other group that is contrary to our national interests. And that would open up a whole lot of ways to go after that. That's something that we're sort of exploring right now. Okay. But again, going back to your question, this is an immigration issue and as a sovereign country, the American people, I think have a right to determine who comes in and and who cannot come into our country. And that's something that I think we ought to exercise. I think it is completely foolish to allow mass migration from the Islamic world

or to allow continued Islamic immigration into the United States. And again, most people agree with that. They intuitively understand that that doesn't make any sense. That's the core area. That's sort of the long-term solution here, the core area that needs to be fixed. including potentially, I want to see if I can hit two things with you in the two minutes we have left, including what do you think about this concept? I did it yesterday on my show, Congressman, about remigration, some that the conversation has begun to be had in Europe, where we have either an incentive program for voluntary remigration for people or even denaturalization for people, and I could come up with some names, by the way, for some people who don't seem to exhibit any type of a fidelity to United States of America. Yeah, I think that, but I fully support both of those.

And I think that there are a large number of people in the United States who should be denaturalized and deported out of our country. You know, whenever you become an American citizen, you make certain affirmations and you swear an oath to the United States and to the Constitution. And if you're not following that oath, you need to go. Or if you became a citizen under false pretenses, for instance, you. If you affirm that you don't have connections to foreign terrorist organizations or foreign organizations that work against the interests of the United States, you need to go. So I think that we've got a clear avenue for denaturalization and deportations legally that we can go down.

But I do think, you know, at some point, remigration is going to have to be a solution. You cannot have just fundamentally incompatible ideologies clashing within our own borders. And I think that's something that the American people need to wake up to. There are a lot of people who need to leave. All right, last question. I just want to get your reaction to what happened yesterday at the City Hall in New York City. You know, Governor Zohramam Dhani hosted a group of people for some Muslim religious celebration. What do I say?

I say something besides mayor. I say governor? I meant mayor. And they were sitting on the floor, eating with their hands, you know, praying in the traditional Islamic way. all there under the painting of Alexander Hamilton, and by the way, inside a government offices. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that this is one of those things.

It's sad, but also just disgusting to see. You know, you hear the left talk all the time about separation of church and state. Putting up, you know, Ten Commandments and a school is like a nuclear bomb for the left. And yet have no problem turning the mayor's mansion in New York into basically a makeshift mind. for Mom Donnie and his sort of political cohorts to come in and make a big show of. You know, it's deeply insulting, I think, to most Americans who believe that we have a specific American culture that's being, again, being undermined by people like Mom Donnie. But he does this because his goal is to, I think, the purpose is to insult Americans. The purpose is to make a big show out of this.

show out of this. And that's part of, I think, cultural domination from radical Islam. All right, Congressman Brandon Gill. It's great to spend time with you here today. Keep up the good work. We appreciate you being with us. Thank you, Congressman. Thanks for having me well. Okay. There you goes, Congressman Brandon Gill. You know, two days, I didn't realize I only had 30 minutes with the Congress. I would have spent more time on the immigration, remigration, and denials. And then more time on Zoroamandani. So it's just fascinating that 25 years after 9-11. If you'd ask a New Yorker on 9-12, this will be the image of your leadership in New York.

I think minds would have been blown. But I don't even know if that does it for me more than like if Alexander Hamilton or John Adams just came waltzing in, you know, teletransported in. And they're like, what the hell is going on here? Can I ask a naive question? Did they know about Islam as much back then? Thomas Jefferson fought against it. The Barbary Pirates were a big issue. Certainly did.

Capturing people. You ever seen Christopher Hitchens talk about this? Have you ever heard Christopher Hitchens talk about this? It's really great. He talks about Thomas Jefferson and his, I think, I don't know if his Jefferson directly or his ambassador, went to the Barbary ambassador, whatever, what was the name of the, Barbary nation state back then, you know, Tripoli and so forth, and said to him, they had taken like thousands of American sailors. It was literally in the thousands, hostage, and turned them into slaves. And he approached him. It was like, why are you doing this? We have never attacked you.

We've never been at war with you. We've never done it. And the response was because the Quran says that we can, because you're infidels. And the Quran says we are right to take. take infidels as slaves. And Jefferson's like, all right then, that's how it is. War. And he went to war with the Barbary Pirates. Wow. Yeah, Libya.

So, yeah, they knew Morocco, Algeria. They knew Islam. But they weren't called that back then, right? Were they called those? Tunis was Tunisia. Morocco, Tripoli was Libya. Alger's modern Algeria. The Magrub.

But I'm saying those were the names of the countries then. They had countries with those names. So I was red. Hmm. I feel like Tripoli was sort of like its own little city-state. Yeah. But I'll take you and AI at their word. That's Google, but yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a stark, stark image. And the point on church and state is made totally clear, because if this had been like a Christian celebration, Christian gathering, Christian prayer, and so forth, I think in the city halls of New York, I think the left would have had a real problem with it. And they would have cried about church and state. Which makes you wonder, like, is the church and state thing just about Christianity? Right.

The 9-11 thing is fascinating. I mean, I know it's 25 years. It's just, I don't know, especially the young people that they were doing these TikTok videos. about how 9-11 was justified now. The kids who didn't live through it, kids who weren't there, kids who weren't born yet. You know, and just to hear that. Oh, I've seen the stuff about Gen Z.

Yeah, I've seen the stuff online about Gen Z not concerned at all about Islam, political Islam, radical Islam, didn't grow up with knowing about, I mean, living through it in any way, 9-11 or anything like that. And they're just, it's not on their high list.

of concerns. These young, apparently, according to, like you said, TikTok and social media. If you haven't seen those images of what happened yesterday at New York City Hall, you really should check it out.

It's just, it's something to take in. You play the video if you want. Really interesting. Okay. Well, I don't want to. I want to take a quick break and I want to come back because what I want to do is

I want to talk about how much money Pete Hegseth has spent on steak and lobster. The Brooklyn brunch crew is really up in arms about it, as is all of the left. And according to CNN's, Paul Bagala. Pete ate it all himself. A ton of lobster. And we come back on Will Cain Country.

So much money on steak and lobster, all eaten by the Secretary of War, according to CNN's Paul Bagala. And I guess we now know how he benched 315. It is Wilcane Country, the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, Wilcane Facebook page. Let's go over to Willishtia for a minute. I'll start with on YouTube. Big Caesar says, the First Amendment is as good as it is. it can also be used against us by alien entities, i.e. Islam. This is a current conversation. I mean, again, Gad's sad as a guy that's talked about this a lot. Is it a suicide pact, the First Amendment? Make no mistake. Make no mistake. Should Islam ever gain strong cultural and political hold, these protections of the Constitution of the United States will not exist? So is it a suicide pact?

You do not have an Islamic nation that has these types of freedoms, has these types of protections. Simply do not. First Round by says, does Brandon believe in freedom of religion in the USA? I've noticed First Round By here as a regular listener and viewer who disagrees a lot. And I first want to say this. Well, I appreciate their presence. I totally do. I love that we have an audience that doesn't all.

agree. I think it makes the conversation richer. We have a few in there. I appreciate first round by being here on a consistent basis and contributing. My sense is that Congressman Gill does believe in the freedom of religion, but you have to start having this conversation beyond that. That can't be the end of the conversation. It really cannot. You're going to have to start having a conversation about what is compatible with those values, culturally and politically. We do have the Begall. Jesse. by the way.

Okay, cool. I'm glad. I'm glad you told me that on air because I've been grilling Dan about it. I really want that Begala clip. And we're going to get to that in a minute. But a few more people here in the comments. Jeff Trux says, this is my favorite guy in Congress talking about Brandon Gill. I agree. He's great. James Marr said Talarico said God was non-binary. Can we talk about this one for just a minute? Okay. Go ahead, Dan. Go ahead. Does this one speak to you?

Does this one speak to you? Not particularly. I mean, but if we're talking about logistics or semantics, like he's not, he, I said, God is not male nor female. He's all knowing. You just excommunicated yourself, bud. You're out of here. God is a man. What do you mean, Patrick?

Well, I'm just saying. Does Catholicism say he's a man? Father, yeah, the father. It's not masculine tendencies. What are you going to do with that, Dan? don't say he's the father or the mother. They say he's the father. Boom. Now back to you, right. Does he have male

genitalia? You know, what are we getting at here? You know, God is God's God. Yeah. And if you're a Christian, but is God man or is God? I mean, is Jesus man? Jesus being one of the three persons of the

Godhead, technically was 100% man and 100% God. Right. Which is a mystery to in itself. I'm just saying. It's But God is neither man nor woman. God is God. I'm going to get ripped. I'm going to get ripped in the comments, by the way, by Tiggie. I think you both will.

I think this is a no-win proposition. It's no-win. Here's why I think this is interesting, though. Okay. I've heard Tala Rico make the whole argument. You know, God is above gender. God is above any of our mortal conceptions of male and female. God supersedes these things.

And so, therefore, is the, is the, logic as it goes, God is non-binary. So I think you can accept the first premise. Yeah, sure. Right? I think you can accept the setup that God is above mortal conditions of male and female. God is above our human understanding. And then the leap to non-binary sounds like a small step when in fact it's a giant leap across the Grand Canyon. And therefore, what you've used is a term that has literally been invented non-binary within the last five years. As a way, you're a way. way to suggest that people, humans, not gods, can switch their gender. But I think this is interesting. I think this is actually deeper at a subconscious philosophical level. When I hear someone like

Talarico say, God was non-binary, therefore he's giving justifications to humans being non-binary as well, right? And what I think, this is what I think. I think a lot of this project is to put humans on the level of gods, to put us equal to God. And that if God is this, then we can be this. And it's this entire thing of what's the difference between humans and gods. And if you look at deep, deep, I think, philosophical drivings, this whole thing, in the end, makes us all gods. That's sort of the goal. We are gods. I mean, we're dirty, little, you know, petty.

That doesn't make you God. I know, I'm kidding. Don't you know you're like gods? Do you get what I'm getting at, Patrick? I think this whole thing is to put people on the same level as a, God. Yes. Like all the lefty stuff?

God had a septum ring. God had blue hair. God has no hair. God hated his dad. Who's God's dad? Well, I guess the father is... Again, we're going to get in this. The father...

We can keep going back. So the father is Jesus' dad. But God just is. But God just is. But he's also God. Like Jesus says, I am. That's why it's a mystery. This is good. Good job, fellas.

Yeah, you're welcome. Over on Facebook, Charlie Pointer says, Pointon says, easier to keep them out than get them, easier to keep them out than get them out. I believe the deport boat has sailed. Address the free shit, maybe they will leave. Well, first of all, even the people that believe in remigration, which is something as we talked about yesterday that is now being considered in Austria, employed in Hungary, employed in Sweden, considered in Germany, considered in Germany, considered in Germany. considered in Germany, understand that the sequence of events goes like this. You first have to cut off, certainly for illegals, the welfare boat. Because if the welfare boat's incentives outweigh the remigration incentive, you'll never get anybody to remigrate. They're not leave.

I mean, why? If I've got all this, have you seen the videos of like these Somali, there's some videos of these Somalis going to work for me, work for me? You know? No. Meaning like I get all of these services. You work for me. I own you. It's a couple of videos out there.

Wow. But there's a lot of incentive on the welfare side of things that will keep someone from ever wanting to leave. Why leave? I don't think the deport boat has sailed. I don't think it has. I mean, there are reports out there that the Trump administration has suggested stop using the terms mass deportation, stop considering mass deportation, which would be incredibly disappointing. But I think you're going to have to get super creative about this process,

which I think Europe might be looking at some creative ways to consider this process, because clearly sending ICE agents out to gather up even violent criminal illegal aliens, has, I don't know, we'll find out if it's paid a political cost. I still want to pay. Tom's just don't want to be mean. Just don't want mean. It seems mean. Yeah, I don't think illegal should be here, but that seems mean.

Like, well, yeah, the law is mean sometimes. That's why I want to pay Eric Prince. Justice is mean. To deport everybody. Like, he offered, what, $25 billion? He's busy in Haiti right now. Get everybody out? I'm like, let's do it.

Do it now. Come on. Get him out in four years. All right. I don't know if you guys have seen this story, but, um, If you're on the left, you certainly have. Reports are that at the end of the fiscal year, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, and the Pentagon spent, what was the total? Is it $93 billion?

$93 billion? Yeah. Now, now, the stated rationale for this happening was in Washington, in Washington, D.C., if you come in under budget, your budget gets cut. So this is not unique to the Pentagon. on it's every, this is how your government works. Spend it so you can get it next year and ask for more. If you don't spend it, you have a hard time asking for your budget to be re-uped, much less getting more.

So every, every, this is the truth. This is how your government works. Everybody's working their hardest to spend as much money as possible so they can continue to get more budget. Now, it turns out that some of that $93 billion was spent on things like steak and lobster. And it sounds like some really big numbers. big millions of dollars in steak and lobster. And this is how this has begun to be reported and consumed and regurgitated on CNN.

Here's Paul Begala, who was James Carvel's running buddy partner who used to work for Bill Clinton, talking about this on CNN. He has spent $15 million in one month for ribby steak, $6.9 million for lobster tail, $225 million for furniture. He spent more in the month of September than most countries on earth spend in their defense. Do you believe it? All for himself? Lobster tails?

Do you believe? Are troops eating MRI? No, no, no. Do you believe the Secretary of Defense is personally eating all the lobster? Wait, he can't eat the troops. Oh, really? The troops are getting lobster. Frequently in theater.

Oh, my God. Troops who are going to work. Oh, my God. You know that. You know that. You know that. You are so full of this. You are so full of this.

You are so full of this. Internet. Do something. So, Vagala says, he says it in there. Yeah. Seth is eating this lobster, right? No, and then he acts like it's absurd that it's going to the truth. So you're so full of it.

He says, he says, oh, I don't think his blood pressure is high at all. I don't think so at all. From all that steak? I think he's a gleeful misinformationist. Oh, I thought you're talking about Bagallah. Oh, no, Pete. I thought you're talking about Bagala. He works it all out.

Begala is a gleeful misinformationist. So did you guys do the numbers, Patrick? Did you do this? Yes. I have the numbers right here. If Pete were to be eating, well, I want to know this. If Pete was eating $7 million worth of lobster in one month and $15 million of ribby steak, how much lobster and steak is Pete eating? So $15 million worth of ribby steak is 16,700 pounds of steak per day.

So he's putting on a lot. He's consuming a lot of protein. lobster tail $7 million of lobster tail is 4,600 pounds of lobster per day So I think it's Oh my lot of lobster

It's a lot of lobster So he's eating 20 It said something like it would take him like He's eating 20,000 pounds He's eating 20,000 pounds of steak And lobster every day Which is impressive To be honest

That should be leading the news that man takes down 20,000 pounds of steak and lobster in one day. I'm not even mad. Imagine his bowel movement. Imagine his bowel movement. Let's take a quick break, but we'll be right back on Will Kane Country. 200-pound man takes down 20,000 pounds of steak and lobster in one day. I mean.

So I do two pounds of Taco Bell in a night and it's hard, you know. You do two pounds of Taco Bell in a night? It's a joke now. I don't know. There's always some seriousness to a joke. I believed it though. I did too. I believed it. I know.

I did. Patrick, what's your Taco Bell order? Right now I'm really into the street chalupas. So a street chalupa, a crispy canteenat taco, and then maybe like a waffle. Can you spend $7 million at Taco Bell? No, I don't go every day. I don't have to do it. W button?

Probably once a week, yeah. You're going to Taco Bell once a week? Okay, hold on. How many times a week do you go to McDonald's? Last week I went twice because I was doing, I was trying to do a one of those videos. Taste test. Yeah, you did a taste test for us. That's great.

Didn't get good well. Okay. And then I had a flay of fish. How many times a week? I don't normally go to McDonald's. Okay. So we'll give you one. once a week on McDonald's. How

how many times a week are you going to Burger King? Zero. Okay, you're not a Burger King guy. How many times a week do you go to Chick-fil-A? It's gotten a bit about once a month. So not often. Yeah. How many times a week are you going to Long John Silver's? We don't have those. We have Captain D's, and after the last time,

it's never going to happen any time soon. Everyone got ill. How many times a week are you eating fast food? Just a Taco Bell once a week. Oh, you're just Taco Bell guy. That's your main thing. You're a Taco Bell guy. Yeah.

Interesting. I don't know many Taco Bell devotees. And I can handle it, too. Taco Bell was a thing when you were like in your 20s, I feel like, you know, because it soaks up. It's open late and it soaks up a lot of alcohol. Yeah, Uber through the drive-thru. At Taco Bell 2 in the morning.

But I live in Texas, and so your opportunities for Mexican food, good Mexican food, are through the roof. I eat Mexican food probably once a week, but that doesn't count Taco Bell. Meaning Taco Bell doesn't. It's like, it's been years and years since I've had Taco Bell. Are you missing out? I can't remember the last time I did, probably 10 years ago. It's one of the premier fast foods. It's kind of like Popeyes.

But Popeyes has terrible service. but like, you know, people, there are people, even like foodies who are like obsessed with Taco Bell and Popeyes. Oh, I don't know about that. I'm telling you. It's a thing. So a few, about a month ago, Pete, and we talked about this with Pete, he was on the show because he did this years ago as well, right? And I was really set back by it when he first did it. Do you remember that, Patrick?

Because before Dan came on the show, I think. that Pete benched three, at that time it was 300, I know. It may have been 315. And it blew, it blew my mind. Because Pete's strong. And, but Pete's like, I think I'm going to say Pete weighs around 200. I'm going to put it between 190 and 205, like in that range. And to think a guy that size can bench that is a little hard to wrap your mind around.

And I remember saying, come on, man, you really did that. And I doubted it. And then I shamed myself that I had to get after it. We did a whole bench press thing. Like, what could we bench? And by the way, for the record, I think I could do 225. Like, I think I could max out about 225. For one?

He do, yeah, yeah, that's a max out. One, yeah. So benching 315 is like, you. It's jumping, I think it could be jumping two to three levels. Like, you're, you know, you're going to plateau and you've got to do something else. And to get to that is kind of insane. And I saw, so he did it recently when he was training with some soldiers. I think he did it in two different settings.

And I saw online a controversy erupt about whether or not he really did it or whether not it was fake, whether or not it was fake ways. Did you guys see that? Yeah. It hit my algorithm. Like some musselhead. muscle head guys. Yeah.

Yeah. That's what people were saying. Yes. And I saw some muscle head guys going, I lift. I'm a muscle head guy. You can't weigh what he weighs and bench what he benches, saying impossible. And these guys are all jacks. It's not true.

You know, big guys. Yeah, it's 100% not true. I don't know where they get off, like, even saying that. That's insane. Now, I will say it's extremely rare. I think it's extremely rare for somebody that size to be able to do. do it, but you, you can come up with guys that can. And he happens to be one of those guys.

And I guess we know the answer now. It's 20,000, it's 16,000 pounds of steak a day. That's how you get there. I don't know how he maintains his weight at 195. Eat all that protein. He's got, yeah. Yeah. We need his weight loss.

How are you eating all that, how are you eating all that steak and lobster and holding your weight at 195? Less carbs. Paul Bagallo, Paul Bagallo wants to know. We also have this, just in case you're curious, and you shared this with the Brooklyn brunch crew because they're all into this story. Heg-Seth, September 2025, $6.9 million on lobster tales. Biden, one year earlier, September 2024, $6.1 million on lobster tales. rib eye

Hegseth September 2025 $15 million Biden $2024 $16.6 million on ribeyes spent more on

ribbys in the same vicinity on lobster tails Biden can't eat that much Does this By the way does this sum up Does this sum up Trump versus Biden

Trump and Hague said less than $1 million on salmon. Biden, $6.4 million on salmon. The left loves fish. They all spent about the same on donuts

and furniture, by the way. You heard Begala bring up furniture. The piano is roughly in the same. $220 million. For the Air Force. What's the piano needing? I saw that. Yeah. I don't know, but look at the price.

You know, musical instruments. $1.8 million under Heggseth, $1.2 million under Biden. So what government does. But, I mean, the big thing is it just sounds like a hell of a brunch, and apparently Pete was at brunch. So we just want to be invited to Pete's brunch because we love brunch so much. I mean, bottomless mimosis for $1.2 million sounds pretty good. That would be fun, wouldn't it?

Pete and your Brooklyn brunch crew together over some lobsters. Not salmon. No. Not salmon. Maybe a little locks. Yeah, locks. Big old locks Oh yeah man

Salmon's a breakfast food I don't eat breakfast By the way I love me some salmon I'm not above it Yeah Didn't used to like salmon Now I really like it Do you know else like salmon

But then I code left You do Who I would assume Max Crosby Healing from his injury Oh is that a transition I keep forgetting to talk about Max Crosby Do you want to talk about Max Crosby

Real quick Hell yeah I do The biggest story on the internet Look at this guy producing. I know. It is insane. Let's do it really quickly. Max Crosby, Oakland, Las Vegas, Raider, traded from the Raiders to the Baltimore Ravens for two first round picks on Friday night. By, when was it, Monday morning or Sunday?

No, it was Monday night. Trade nixed. Ravens back out. Next morning, Tuesday morning, they signed Trey Hendrickson, same position from the Bengals for roughly the same exact money. Pretty much everybody's trying to figure out what the hell just happened. The Ravens say his physical came back bad, his knees no good. The rest of the league seems to think the Ravens got cold feet, second thoughts, backed out of the Max Crosby trade.

And now is the question, can you deal with the Ravens? Can you ever trust a deal with the Ravens? What I'm fascinated to be is like, at first I thought, well, man, look what this does to everybody. because the Raiders went ahead and spent a bunch of money in free agency. So they're going to have to not honor their free agent deals. And people are saying, no, they actually have the cap room to keep all the guys they signed and Max Crosby. Of course, as a cowboy fan, Cowboys apparently came in second in this bid for Max Crosby to the Ravens. So did the Cowboys jump back in?

They're saying no, they're not interested. Now the league's really wondering, is his knees super bad? Is it not worth the trade, not worth the contract? But it was insane. This way this unfolded. And I believe Will Compton of the boys said that this isn't the first time the Ravens have done this,

where they had a player who failed a physical, and then they ended up signing somebody else, fail the physical, when they had Crabtree open up as an option. So you're saying it's a tactic? I'm just saying... Yeah, they signed Ryan Grant, as wide receiver.

They failed him on the physical and then went and got Crabtree when he was available. So yeah, is this their MO? Anybody can fail physical. Anybody can pass a physical. These physicals are totally subjective.

But the truth will be if anybody else is interested in Max Crosby. That will be the truth. Is he tradable now? And it may play out over the next month. And what can the Raiders get for him now? It's way less than two first-round picks. I was talking to David Pollock before the show yesterday,

and he's saying they're not going to get anything for him now. It's not possible. In which case, you just keep him. Yeah. The Cowboys just got, what, Gary, defensive tackle from the Packers? Yeah. And, you know, they got him for a fourth. Defense of end.

Church defensive end. So what does it Crosby going to get? I mean, he's going to get, you know, if he's worried about injuries, it's like you might get a second or a third now. You're not getting a first. I don't know if you're going to get it first. If you're the Raiders, do you accept that? If somebody says, okay, now with this new information, we'll give you a second round pick for Max Crosby.

Do you think the Raiders would even do that? I would consider it. I think they would offload him just because you want to kind of, not that he's a cancer in the clubhouse, but if somebody doesn't want to be in your organization, which I don't think he does, I don't think you want to bring him back. Yeah. I think he was a little miffed about it anyways. Yeah. By the way, can we talk about your...

I mean, I hope the Cowboys... I am hoping the Cowboys get a hell of a deal on Max Crosby. I really am hoping... That's my hope over the next month. I don't know what a hell of a deal is. Is it second round? Is it third round? Is it a first round pick? Like one first round pick.

I don't know what a hell of a deal is right now. Because I don't know how bad his knee is. That's the whole question. How bad is his knee? Go ahead, two days. Speaking of Cowboys, just last thing, can we talk about what's going on with Dak Prescott? Is he okay?

You got too close to a ring, they say. Calling off the wedding. Two weeks before the wedding. Yeah. He just can't seal the deal. I haven't read in... On the field or off the field. It's infidelity stuff.

The reports are it's infidelity. First I read it was pre-nup. And then I read it was infidelity. Yeah, that's tough. Right before the wedding is tough. It's brutal. It was during like a bachelor or bachelor party or something like that. Yeah, but how does that work?

Who's infidelity, by the way? is it? Is it hers or his? I think they're saying it's his, right? Yeah. But so she would go on the Bachelorette party and what, all these girls pull her aside and say, you know, you know, this is all going on? Apparently. And she comes home from the Bachelorette party and calls it off?

Yeah, it could be like Luca Dodger. Or maybe while she's away at the Bachelorette party, something went down. Yeah, or like Luca just following OnlyFans models, but yeah. Lucas' marriage just broke up too. I know. It's your boys. What's going on?

Hey, that story's not over. James Tala Rico and Honky Tonk Angel, that story's not over, okay? There needs to be some investigative reporting on that to be done. Because I'm seeing more and more. The fact that Tala Rico, okay, the fact that Tala Rico did what he did with us, right, where he recut it and reframed it in a dishonest way. And then the way that he did the Colbert thing, which was obviously totally calculated and a fraud.

I mean, it was fake. It was a hoax. Now makes me think what is a hoax and what is not? Because you know there are people out there saying that the honky-tonged-tong angel stuff was a hoax. You guys know what I'm saying, right? Yes. Yeah.

So make it look like he likes girls when he does. Interesting. Oh, like a beard. I thought it was just for name recognition. Like a purity thing? Yeah. No. Like a, like, oh, look at him.

One of the boys. likes girls on Instagram. I thought he said a beardy thing. So I thought like a beardy thing. Yeah. I'm just telling you, there's more investigative reporting to be done on Hunky Tunk Angel. And we'll be all over here. I'll get back to it.

I'll get back to it. Will King Country. All right. All right, that's going to do it for us today. Thanks for hanging out with this again. We'll be back again tomorrow for a more even loose and messy episode of Will Kane Country. So make sure you follow us on Spotify app. We'll see you next time.

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