Will Cain Country - Is The Left A Cult? (ft. Wade Stotts)

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Story #1: Will asks which characteristics should be placed in "protected classes" following the Supreme Court's major ruling on trans-related medical care for minors, with the Liberals siding against the ban. Story #2: Wade Stotts, Host of 'The Wade Show With Wade,’ joins Will to break down which political group is actually a cult: MAGA or the Left? Plus, Will and Wade discuss New York mayoral candidate Brad Landers' shock that he was arrested by immigrants and what the future of Iran look like if there is regime change? Story #3: Following news of the sale of the Los Angeles Lakers, Will & The Crew try to find an historical comparison to see if we can predict how new ownership will impact the culture built by the Buss family?  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to Will Cain Country on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Black, Gay, Women should protected classes include transgender persons. That is the question for the United States Supreme Court. Two, is the modern left fit the definition of a cult with Wade Stott's, the host of the Wade Show? Three, the L.A. Lakers sell for $10 billion. What's that make the Dallas Cowboys work? And what happens when you lose a Steinbrenner, a Jones, a bus to your marquee franchise, the Los Angeles Lakers? It is Will Cain Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page.

Terrestrial radio, three dozen markets across this great United States of America, but always on demand by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. We got tin foil pat, we've got two of days, Dan. We've got a duck tape patched together studio here for Will. can't country. I've got iPods. Look at this. Running my graphics with the face popping off the top. I've got adapters that don't fit multitudes of iPads. I got a computer that doesn't hold a battery charge. This thing right here is spit and straw, boys. This is how we're running this booming operation here. You like that? Yeah. Look at this. 19.

Is that the first... Is that the first iPhone? Is that the first iPhone? Yeah, I think that's the first one. It might be the very first iPhone. It's got a home button. You know, you remember the home button at the bottom? It's got a home button.

But the home button won't take me anywhere. This runs... This, by the way, is the brains of the operation right here. This is Wilcane Country. This is the brains of the operation. And it runs my background. It runs this whole thing. But look, it's unglued, and your home button can't...

So if I stick my finger in here, maybe, oh, no. Oh, it came on. Look, I had to stick my finger under the glass, and it came on. Yeah. You know, we're just firing out all cylinders here. Without its help, we're going to use my personal phone as the brains of the operation day. We'll run the risk that I accidentally swipe right. Oh, now you are live inside the veterinary office is Saint.

my 73 pound train wreck of a doberman goes in today for stitches on his face i don't know if you can see this uh let's zoom out here in wilcane country yeah and you know he's torn the side of his face off what and i don't know how my suspicion is it's a dog fight my suspicion is this is the work of violet and it's got a suspiciously deep and tooth-shaped gash on the right side of his sheet and i have mentioned the countryside of will the ranch hand in montana side of will says he'll be all right and then the city side of will is like does he need stitches and so no the country side of will the countryside of will the country side of will has been winning okay he'll be all right but as the gash grew

I decided to play home doctor, so I've been wound washing it, putting a little, I got some of that new skin stuff that you can buy, you know, I don't even know what that stuff does. It's like instead of a Band-Aid, because a Band-Aid's not going to sit on dog fur. Trust me, I tried. I bought a bunch of Butterfly Band-Aids to try to close this thing, and it worked for a little bit. But then he takes it off. He shakes it off. He scratches it off.

And so then I got myself some of this gauze, but you can get the fan of it. fancy pet gauze that tastes like crap is supposed to be super bitter so they won't mess with it and i wrap his whole head in it so he can't get the the bandage off and then he acts like he's paralyzed like with this bandage on his head he literally cannot move he won't walk he just stands there depressed not unlike that photo and the minute you take your eyes off of him not only has he removed the entire head wrap he is eating the bitter wrap that is supposed to i guess Pomeranians from messing with a wound, but not this train wreck of a Doberman with no spatial awareness.

I think I bought a Doberman off Craigslist that has, he, I put a cone on his head, too. I've tried that for about 15 minutes. Do you know what he did then? He ran into every piece of furniture in the house with the cone. He has, you know, that's a thing. Like, there are people who don't have a sense of space. Have you ever seen that? But, like, I once did an interview when I was ESPN with a guy who was a wrestler at Michigan, and he told me he had this.

Like, he doesn't understand space well. Like, maybe this explains close talkers, you know, or people that are always up in your grill. But that's my dog. He does not understand space. He bumps into things. He bumps into you. And he's currently bumping into PVC pipe on the street or another dog's sense of people. He's in calm, and he's now torn half his face off, and he's going today.

City side wins. No more country. He's going to get stitches. God bless Saint. Now, for a bit of Zen to get us started today, I want to give you whoopey Goldberg talking about the suffrage movement in Iran, but be careful before you talk about throwing gaze off high towers, before you talk about women that can't show their race. wrists, no exposed skin. Just remember it's basically the same for black people in America.

I give you the height of television intellect, the view. Let's just remember, too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. They don't adhere to basic human rights. Listen, here's the thing. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Because if we start with that, we have been known in this country to tie gay folks to the car. I'm calling it, but where the Iranian regime is two days, I'm sorry. They're just paying in black people. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran.

Not if you're black. Not for everybody. Not if you're black. Incredible. Not if you're black in 2025. I mean, is this taking the lesson, the biblical lesson of don't look at the log in your neighbor's eye for the spec in your own? It's the opposite. Don't look at the spec in your neighbors are for the log and your own.

Is that taking it to a pathological level? Or is it severe, severe, like life-threatening withdrawals, addiction to victimhood status? I don't even know if we can call that the left. What we need to begin to call that is mental delay, mental inability. What we need to begin to discuss is whether or not you should get cancer. paid millions of dollars to be essentially the live-action version of Beavis and Butthead. What is the difference? What is the difference between the view and Beavis and Butthead?

Like, I'll tell you the difference. I'll tell you. Self-awareness and intentionality. Mike Judge knew what he was doing with Beavis and Butthead. It was laughing at the two's teenage stupidity. That was the joke. Now, here's an interesting conversation. There's obviously no self-awareness in the world of Whoopi Goldberg or Sonny Hosten or Joy Behar.

Is there with ABC executives? Do they know what they're putting on television? Not doing it out of cynic weakness to a particular point of view that has been in vogue for the greater part of the 21st century. But are they putting it on TV because they're actually like my... Mike Judge. These are the lambs let out to slaughter for us to all laugh at. I don't know, but I think it has to be considered. I think it has to be considered because it literally, probably could not be more stupid than the view. I hope you've enjoyed your moment of Zen. Let's get to some serious subjects like whether or not transgender person should exist.

In a protected class, not unlike, well, African Americans. Story number one. United States versus Scermetti case decided yesterday by the United States Supreme Court. Can the state of Tennessee ban, quote, gender affirming care, sex changes, hormone replacement for children, which has now been outlawed in the state of Tennessee? The United States Supreme Court heard the case, heard oral arguments, and issued yesterday their opinion in a case styled United States versus Scermetti. majority opinion six to three said yes it is constitutional for tennessee to ban sex changes hormone therapy for minors interestingly the supreme court did not answer the imperative question are trans people a protected class let me explain the way this decision came down is chief justice john roberts writing for the majority said this is a ban on gender surgeries and

and firming care, hormone replacement, for everyone who is a minor, there is no target in this law. There's no protected class. There's no minority. There's no person nor a grieved class to be discriminated against. It's all minors are being prohibited from this type of medical procedure. And because there is no protected class, because there is no minority, the state only need to satisfy what is called in Supreme Court jurisprudence a rational basis test for the constitutionality of a law. Let's back up and talk a minute about what I mean by rational basis test and protected classes. On its face, the 14th Amendment of the United States constitution the equal protection clause requires that laws treat all individuals equally of course

that is not true in application we have all sorts of discriminatory laws we have laws that say for example you know discriminate for example when it comes to who can be a firefighter or historically who could vote the question is are those laws constitutional now any law on its face that says it's going to treat black people one way and white people another way is clearly a discriminatory law and most of those have been struck down but not all i'll explain why in just one moment but some years ago the supreme court of the united states developed another test for whether or not a law is discriminatory and that is it doesn't have to just be discriminatory on its face but it can also be discriminatory in application the words you may have become familiar with is disparate impact

Does the law have a disparate impact on one group of people versus another? So let's give you some examples of how law can be discriminatory, not on its face, but in application. Here are two. The most famous example is literacy tests in voting, and that is, in order to vote first, a person had to pass a literacy test. Back in the day, that had a big impact on black Americans who were not educated coming out of the South, coming out of the slavery and civil rights era. The impact of that law was such that it had a disparate impact on black voters. Now, here's another example.

A city fire department says in order to become a fireman, you have to be able to haul a hundred pound hose up a ladder, run through this obstacle course in this amount of time, and show you have the physical capabilities to be a firefighter. That law also, obviously, not discriminatory on its face. but in application had a disparate impact on women trying to become firefighters. That's just the beginning of the analysis. What we've established is those two laws through disparate impact are discriminatory

and therefore need to be analyzed as whether or not they're constitutional under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. But as I said, we have all sorts of discriminatory laws. And not all of them are unconstitutional because sometimes perhaps even often there's good reason for discrimination i know it's i know that offends our shallow sense of cliched thinking but look we discriminate all day long discrimination is not a vice in fact most of the time i think most of the time discrimination is a virtue what i mean by that is you discriminate am i going to eat this or not eat that is this smell bad or is this smell

good. Do I like this person's character or do I not? Do I like this person's personality or do I not? All day long, hundreds of times a day, thousands of times a day, you are discriminating. So does the state. That does not make it even a vice, much less unconstitutional. It just begins the process of analysis. Then you say, well, who is it discriminating against? This is important. Who is it discriminated against we will then get to why is it discriminating but who well you have to being discriminatory on what you eat or how you feel about an individual is nothing to do with the constitution but when you do it broadly to a class of people under the law then you start going is this right for the state to do so who are we discriminating against well historically in the

United States, we have certain classes of people who have been discriminated against that we look at very carefully when there's a law. Those are race and sex, primarily. We can also apply age and other classes, but the ones that have received the most scrutiny are race and sex. Is this discriminatory towards black people? Is this discriminatory towards women. If the answer to that is yes, then we will apply what's called strict scrutiny. We will ask the state passing a law that is discriminatory, you better have a very, very valid reason under strict scrutiny to discriminate against this protected class. There are other classes I mentioned, like age. There are laws that are discriminatory when it comes

to age. But we don't have a history of discrimination in the same way, and you apply a lower standard of analysis. There's several, the lowest being, rational basis review. And that means does the state have a reason, a rational reason, to employ this discriminatory law? Okay. Now we get to the why in satisfying this test. Why?

Even though you have discriminatory law, even against a protected class like African Americans, it can still be constitutional if you have a very good reason, the state. Now, let's go back. Not just race. I said sex is a protected class under strict scrutiny, men, women, so forth. So a fire department that has a not on its face discriminatory law, but one that in disparate impact affects women, is going to be asked to satisfy the test now that we have a protected class, we have a discriminatory law, a protected class in women, is it going to have a very, very good reason to satisfy the test?

of strict scrutiny for why a firefighter should have to be able to carry a hundred pound hose up a ladder, run through an obstacle course, and under a certain amount of time. And the answer for that, for example, is yes, it has a very good reason. It needs to save people's lives and put out fires. And so therefore, we don't care that it's discriminatory towards women. Law, constitutional. You see how that works? well now with the united states versus scrimetti there has been an attempt to push transgender

persons into the realm of a protected class and a high high level of scrutiny when you have a law that discriminates against transgender persons this is all coming this is less to do with what the supreme court decided yesterday as i'll explain in the moment but this is all coming well how do we define protected classes well historically we have relied upon things like immutable characteristics what you're born with your lady parts your man parts your skin color your race immutable characteristics you don't get to choose you're part of that class you're born that way it's easily identifiable you are grouped together with others and then capable of being discriminated against well transgender blows that entire thing out of the water by its own

rationale it's not immutable what's the difference between sex and gender identity shrug throw your hands up in the air we rely on the american psychological association to help us out through that lack of common sense what more by its own very rationale it's fluid you can move you're in you're out you're a woman you're a man whatever how then are you in a group when are you in a group who else is in your group what are the characteristics of the group how do we know if you're being discriminated against can you stop being discriminated against none of it makes any sense whatsoever and thankfully although chief justice john roberts punted that question for another day are transgender persons a protected class under the 14th amendment instead he said this isn't

discriminated against anybody it's all minors can't have these trans medical procedures luckily several justices of very sound mind Clarence Tommy, Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett explicitly said they do not believe transgender people are a suspect class which would require heightened scrutiny for laws that affect them. But there are some of not such high intellect who are ready to go that way.

The dissent in this opinion written by Justice Sotomayor joined by Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson and Justice Elena Kagan criticized the majority opinion John Roberts halfway majority opinion and saying it clearly discriminates on the basis of sex I don't even know what they mean by sex anymore

neither do you or I none of us understand what they mean when they talk about sex versus identity but they also seem ready to extend the concept of protected class to transgender peoples. This was written on X by someone I thought it was fascinating. We have never set out a hard and fast test

that can be used to identify such classes historically. Suspect, quasi-suspect classes. Transgender status is not immutable. As a result, persons can and do move into and out of the class. Members of the class differ widely among themselves and is often difficult for others to determine whether a person is a member of the class.

and transgender individuals have not been subjected to a history of discrimination that is comparable to past discrimination against the groups that we have classified as suspect or quasi-suspect classes. What I'm here to tell you is while Justice John Roberts punted this question for another day, today decided that Tennessee can ban these medical procedures for minors, they will soon have to answer the question. He will soon have to answer the question. we already seem to know what alito and thomas and connie barrett will say but when we get cases about whether or not boys can play girls sports and we're going to get that case they're soon going to have to answer whether or not trans is a protected class and if they come back and any justice who does brown jackson sort of mayor or kagan they are going to have to decide whether or not they are for the law or ideology whether or not therefore consistency or the popularity of a very small minority, but in-group crowd.

Because you cannot reconcile that trans is anywhere akin to being black. And if you do, you have blown up the idea of protected class. Anyone can be anything at any time. They can be aggrieved. They can be a victim. They can be a protected class. And no law, no law can be discriminatory. if trans is also a protected class

because it defies definition in and of itself and that means we no longer have definitions so maybe in the end that's the end of the 14th Amendment has the left on that note become an amoeba like mob adhering to no particular principle

but a cult that simply follows the rules and severely imposes restrictions and punishment if you do not on following the rules. Does the left meet the definition of a cult with Wade's thoughts coming up on Will King Country? all your Brett Bear favorites, like his All-Star panel and much more. Available now at Fox News Podcasts.com or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas.

Just kidding. It's only a three-hour show. Listen live at noon Eastern or get the podcast at foxacrossamerica.com. Five characteristics of a cult. One, charismatic authoritarian leadership. Two, intense conformity and control. Three, isolation from outsiders. Four, manipulative and mind-altering practices. Five, elitist worldview.

Does that fit, the modern left? It's Will Cain Country Streaming Live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page. Hey, hit subscribe to Apple or Spotify. I already see your comments there on YouTube and Facebook. I'm going to bring you in here, the Willisha. in just moments. But first, I'm going to bring in Wade Stott's, the host of the Wade show with Wade, joining us now. What's up, man? It's a pleasure to be here. First time on Will Kane Country.

I'm very excited. Yeah, welcome into the country. Glad to have you, Wade. This is what got me thinking about this. So the other day, J.D. Vance, for whatever reason, and a reason I would love to explore, decides he's going to join Blue Sky. Blue Sky, the separatist online group, of people who decided that X is entirely too diverse. So they go over to this thing called Blue Sky, which I'm not on, I'm curious, by the way. Maybe you can stand in place of J.D. Vance if you've joined Blue Sky. They go over and they create this thing called Blue Sky,

where they're all going to do their X thing, right? But together, without all the vitriol and ugliness of varying opinions. And it only took 12 hours for J.D. Vance to get censored and banned from Blue Sky. Now, as it turns out, what Blue Sky has said is they've reinstated his account. It's been a lot of J.D. Vance fakers. They didn't know if it was real at first. And so now he's free to use again over at Blue Sky. But I don't think that undercuts my larger point, which is here you've got this,

is it too kind to say, Galtz Gulch of X, a separatist group within the larger community, Blue Sky of like-minded people who don't want to hear any sense of disagreement. uh in blue sky and i got to thinking man what's the definition of a cult and has the left really become a cult yeah my favorite part of the jd vance thing is that he got banned after posting some clarence thomas legal opinion it was the most banal like boring thing but it was just too much for blue sky um yeah the i think the you listed out the five characteristics uh earlier i think the only one that doesn't fit is the leadership thing so i mean you you've focused plenty on the lack of leadership of the Democratic Party right now. It's kind of insane how little

like direction they have because they don't have anybody leading them. But they do have this sort of animating force, this kind of, it's almost, you know, I don't want to sound too crazy, but it's almost like this spirit that all binds them together that makes them act in the same way. It's almost this inertia as if they had a leader. I don't know. We could, we could speculate about their spiritual leaders. But yeah, it is a fascinating thing that, yes, the, the, like, like strong in-group, out-group. I think you could probably say that about most political thinkers right now.

Politics is way more polarized than it's been in a long time. But you may have seen this, the graphic that showed there was more intellectual diversity on the right than on the left. It's this fascinating little picture where there's these wide points

on the red section of the graph and then the blue is kind of all gathered into almost a sort of a singularity dot. And yeah, I think that's just the nature of the case. a Twitter mutual of mine, seed oil disrespector, posted that with the Plato's cave analogy. So like in the cave, the ideology is going to be pretty narrow. But outside of the cave in the real world where you're able to see real birds and real trees,

there's going to be more interpretations of that thing. So it's just that on the right a lot of times, there's more diversity because there's more awareness of reality. And again, I'm speaking in a very biased way, of course. but you don't see a lot of factions within a cult. So people call MAGA a cult, but there are plenty of groups. You don't go into the Jim Jones cult and then say, like, well, these are the people over here who joined because of this reason, and these are the people who joined because of this reason, and they have their priorities. Within MAGA, you have people like the sort of the tech right, which is kind of on the outs right now.

You've got the Maha people, which I love, and they have their own set of priorities, and they have differing opinions there. You've got the sort of Christian right. You've got what might be called the old religious right that's renewed. I think there are plenty of factions and groups all sort of working together with key core commonalities. And that's, yeah, that's not what you see in a cult, but what you do see in a cult is, again, much more like what's going on in the left. Yeah, it would be too much to say that they don't have a leader because their leader is Satan. I would never say that, but maybe others might. Well, there. Okay, that might be the first thing you said, I thought, satisfied your own

self-analysis of bias. I thought everything else was just pure, cold, reason, and analysis. And I think we can look at current events as an example. On the right, the biggest conversation taking place, quite honestly, at least online, and in some elements out there in the broader political landscape, is basically illustrated by a conversation between Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson over the United States involvement in Iran. And meanwhile, on the left, they're trying to get everybody out of blue sky that are already in the cult.

So I don't think it's inaccurate to say, I know the graph, and we talked about it here on Wilcane Country that you're talking about where there's a great amount of intellectual and ideological diversity on the right and very little on the left. But interestingly, on the left,

so let's look back here together. I'm going to go through those five things again. Okay, elitist worldview, I don't even think we have to explore that. That's pretty clear on the left. Manipulative or mind-altering practices, this is what AI offers me up as a definition. Techniques such as sleep deprivation, chanting, emotional manipulation, that's the key one. Used to try to reinforce loyalty and suppress doubt. Emotional manipulation, empathy, you know, fear.

These are definitely tools being employed readily on the left. isolation from outsiders clearly we just talked about that with blue sky and intense conformity and control members are expected to strictly follow group rules often dictated in detail by that charismatic leader with questioning or dissent discouraged or punished i'm just going to leave out the charismatic leader to your point because i agree that's missing but otherwise it's four of five that are pretty easy boxes to check on the left and and if people when people do call maga a cult That's typically the only thing they point to is the charismatic leadership. They don't have anything else going on.

So just because some people are personally loyal to Trump, I think that's actually fine. I think that's normal in politics as well as in any kind of social thing. Having a charismatic leader, especially one who's gone through plenty of stuff in public and has at least placed himself as a, one of the truest things that Trump ever said was that they're not after you, me, they're after you. I'm just in the way. that's something that just kind of lives on and and it's true there's there's plenty of people who hate Trump but they the person behind Trump is just the normal American person who wants a job I saw a graph this morning I think Scott Benson posted it but it was that real wage growth for blue-collar Americans has only ever grown in the last 50 years grew in Nixon's administration

and then not again until Trump's first administration and then down and by and then up in Trump's first six months. So there's real loyalty that people have. And again, to your point about the elitist mindset, MAGA does not have the same kind of elitist mindset that a lot of the left does. And most of the time, people will criticize MAGA because they think of it as being,

they'll criticize it as low class. And they'll just try to belong ideologically to the thing that they feel is high class. So a lot of times, there are people who don't make a lot of money or people who are not in the high classes, who will join themselves to this progressive movement, mainly because they think that it allies them to people who are high class, smart. I'm one of those people. And Trump himself and MAGA generally is not ashamed in the same way of associating with lower class people, lower class normal Americans. And again,

they're okay with associating with criminals, but that's a different sort of thing. it is a different and interesting sort of thing to your point a moment ago we talked about it yesterday on the will cane show 1.7% real wage growth for blue collar workers is the highest since 1968 since 68 and that's in the face of people suggesting tariffs are going to crush the u.s economy and deporting illegal immigrants will also crush the workforce instead what we see is in the face of those two things 50 years, half a century, the biggest growth in real wages for blue-collar workers. To the point of the charismatic leader, so I did ask, I did ask AI, and I'm starting to question my choice of AI brand, but I am still out there shopping for the perfect AI. I did ask it, hey, are there any cults without the charismatic leader? And it said, you can have that. You can have cults without a charismatic leader.

It references something called the Bight model. Bight stands for behavior, information, thought, and emotional control. Often used to identify cult-like groups, but does not strictly require a charismatic leader, but emphasizes systems of control and manipulation. I said, give me an example. It talked about some religious fundamentalist movements that don't have one single leader, some online communities. But then it referenced, and I know very little about this, Wade,

so I don't profess whether or not this is true or not, but Jehovah's Witnesses, it says leadership is exercised collectively by the Watchtower Society rather than a single figure, yet group maintains high control over members' beliefs and behaviors. Again, I don't know much about Jehovah's Witnesses, but I found that pretty fascinating. Whatever the Watchtower Society is, I mean, we could probably come up with the elite group of people on the left that somehow are minding the store, the Watchtower, when it comes to acceptable beliefs.

Yeah, there's a certain kind of ideology that comes from bureaucracy. so that this sort of hurting mentality all is just trying to preserve itself. So it's not necessarily about the ideology that it takes on. Sometimes the ideology can be window dressing to self-preservation. So this kind of, you mentioned amoeba earlier. I think that's a really good way of thinking about it, because it doesn't matter what ideas the amoeba has. It just is going to try to save itself.

I think that's the kind of, there are a lot of different kinds of dystopian novels that have been written. And I think, and dystopian movies and stuff, one of my favorites is Terry Gilliams, Brazil, which is this sort of cold bureaucracy where normal people are just trying to get normal things done. And horrible things happen. The bureaucracy just sort of makes one mistake way up the chain. And then this normal guy, this is how it opens, one mistake up the chain, and then this normal guy gets taken away, killed, taken away from his family. It is a comedy, by the way. But the whole thing, just sort of, this bureaucracy did something. And so when somebody says, hey, who, same with the Joe Biden thing. So when people say, who was the person who was really the president, I think it's much harder to answer because it's this sort of blob.

It's this sort of everybody in it for themselves. And that kind of creates this sort of central draw, this kind of force that draws everybody together. And when everybody's protecting their job, then you get the kind of leadership that we've had for a few decades now. But that's not, I think we're in a different kind of era now, and I'm really pleased about that. But that bureaucracy, that herd, is pretty resilient. It's a difficult thing to puncture, metaphorically, of course, but it's a difficult thing to kind of break apart because that hurting mentality has just kind of solidified so much that what's, you know, when the bureaucracy is there, the results are going to be pretty predictable and predictably horrible.

Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation with the host of the Wade Show with Wade. It's Wade Stott's on Will Cain Country. On July 18th, get excited. This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry.

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conversation with MSNBC astounding. So New York City comptroller and mayoral candidate. Bradlander is the latest in the line of Democrats to be performatively arrested in defense of an illegal immigrant. He played Red Rover, crossed arms, linked arms with a suspect. That suspected illegal immigrant was being arrested by ICE agents. Well, it blows Bradlander's mind, as it turns out, that some of the men, the stormtroopers and masks, who are ICE agents in enforcing the law, are themselves immigrants. Watch Bradlanders. Two ice agents who detained me.

One is a Pakistan Muslim immigrant who lives in Brighton Beach. And the other is an Indo-Gaians gentleman who lives in South Ozone Park. This is what New York City is. It is the greatest immigrant city. All right, so he's talking about that one of them was, I believe, a Pakistani immigrant. And the other one, I don't know if he was a Latino. They're immigrants. He mentions they lived in Brighton Beach.

And he's like, how, how could they be a part of this? And it plays in Wade to this new ad that the left thinks is going to work going after MAGA for enforcing the law when it comes to illegal immigration. Watch this. I had a really good time today. Yeah, me too. I really like. What are you doing? She's coming with us.

What are you talking about? Who are you? I'm your Republican congressman. Now that we're in charge, we're rounding up illegals. She was born here. She's a citizen. I don't care. She looks like one of them.

But don't worry. When she's in prison in El Salvador, she'll have lots of company. Oh my gosh. At the end of the ad, There's a line of the homegrowns are next, Donald Trump. They have real trouble. They have real trouble remembering the word illegal in illegal immigrant.

Yeah. I have a feeling that this is the sort of ad that was already playing 24-7 in the left's head. It's like they're just, the crazy thing also is that the left has to like make little sketches to make their ads. They have to do little, imagine if this were to happen. Whereas the right, typically, when you get excited about the stuff Trump's doing, the deportations and stuff, it's just footage of people getting onto planes. Like, if you want to call what the right, what MAGA is doing propaganda, their propaganda is just filming the cool stuff they're doing. And then they have to, again, make up a little story where this man stares into the camera and says, she looks like one of them. Yeah, this is the level of reality with which they're dealing.

And when they, when they watch, like, there's a reason that when those, what was the, goodness, the song that they played like closing time when they were sending a bunch of MAGA played closing time. So the White House posted a video where it was like, I know that I want to take you home. You know, like, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. They were playing that line over a bunch of people getting onto planes with handcuffs on, which I thought was very funny. But the reason they can't like even understand what's going on there is because that does,

compute at all with what they're picturing. Again, what they're picturing is a Hispanic woman on a date and then a bunch of ICE agents just grab her because she's Hispanic. It's actually insane and it ties in well with the previous point. These ICE agents and or these Secret Service guys, whoever's grabbing the mayoral candidate, they're immigrants too or they're not they're not you know wasps. And yeah, so yeah, they're there they're they're picture of reality is a very fragile thing and they have to make their little sketches to at least give it some semblance of reality. No one is more opposed to illegal immigration than legal

immigrants that had to go through the process. I mean, that's, of course, everyone knows that and I hate saying things that everyone knows, but it's just true. I mean, and so I don't know where this Brad Landers gets off being surprised that an immigrant is different than an illegal immigrant. In fact, incredibly insulting to an immigrant to constantly conflate him with an illegal immigrant, incredibly insulting. And yet that's the theater that is supposed to be the appeal to, I assume, what they think will be the voting population. I mean, I don't think they think the illegal is going to be voting.

So they've got to span that group to be, okay, just immigrants. Then we're going to get their votes. And then minorities, because what's the difference between an immigrant and a minority? Like, they're blurring all these lines, right? I'll just keep going here until everyone's offended that you enforce the law against an illegal immigrant. Yeah, I mean, imagine you're like a guy who just got here from Columbia, or you've been here for 10 years from Columbia. And then for some reason, your country starts looking more and more like Columbia. I don't think you're going to be too pleased because you obviously left for a reason.

And you, again, went through all the legal loopholes, all the legal barriers. Yeah, it is, and yeah, the blurring distinction of things is huge, because, Because we talked, you talked earlier, your first segment, I thought was great about the, the sort of protected class thing. So what happens with this protected class label is that once it's invented, once that thing starts, then everybody wants to get in that bucket. And so essentially what happens is a sort of rush to the victim class because, oh, those are the people who are getting treated well. And that's that eventually somebody's going to get left out. Somebody has to be on the outside so that then that bucket can still be full of all the victimized people. And the people who are mostly just normal Americans, again, who just want to do their jobs, make enough money to, you know, buy a house, make enough money to take care of their families. Those are the people who get left out. And Jeremy Carl, obviously, wrote a great book called The Unprotected Class, talking about anti-white racism, which is much more real than plenty of these other kind of fake discrimination things, laws that were made specifically to try to, not just based on disparate impact.

but rules that are going on that are definitely more unfair than the others. Go ahead. So on that note, Wade, Wesley Yang writing something on X really caught my attention. He said the trans rights movement in itself illustrates that we have reached the end of the age of emancipation. The giant apparatus we constructed to launch new civil crusades had no one left to liberate and thus set about manufacturing a new subpopulation of the marginalized by, chemically castrating children at the crucial stage of physical, emotional, and cognitive development. This was an overt experiment, self-conscious, institutionally directed. It was a reconstruction of

social reality. In the process, we reached the limit of how far reaching such projects can go in society that remain pluralistic, liberal, democratic, and free. I thought he wrote it really well. It's true. It's the end of the age of emancipation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and these, there are people at the time who were saying, hey, if you carry this logic forward, when the original Civil Rights Act was being made, if you carry this logic forward, then it's going to erase a lot of distinctions that are fine and normal. You mentioned the firefighters. You know, nobody's, nobody, people who may be fighting for female firefighters, they're not fighting for, you know, 70-year-old firefighters. But, but at some level, there's no, there's no inconsistency in the logic. And the case you mentioned earlier, it is fascinating to me that you have to kind of still step around the civil rights element of this whole thing in order to get the normal result. You can't castrate children.

You can't chemically castrate children. Okay, well, in order to do that, you've got to maneuver around this protected class thing, which again just becomes a really ugly thing, rather than have. having, again, laws that apply it to everybody in the same way, real actual equality before the law, a law that is rigid, a law that is set in stone. Yeah, I hate that normal lawmakers in order to get a regular normal result, don't castrate children, don't chemically castiary children, are going to have to avoid stepping on these sort of landmines that have been set up in their path. all right before we go with wade here the host of the wade show with wade's thoughts um um it's such a big one

it's a bear and i've wrestled despair for a couple of days here but i find you an interesting voice on this so i don't want to avoid it i think if you and i were sitting together over a bourbon we would bring it up and we would talk about it and that is the u.s involvement in iran Now, I've had a multi-day wrestle with this bear weighed on whether or not it is America first. And I think that remains an open question. And for me, the answer to that largely is not ideological, it's practical, it's strategic, and I trust that in the hands of Donald Trump.

But I do think there's an interesting conversation to be had, and it was touched on. And for what it's worth, if you're watching or listening out there and you've only seen viral clips of Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson, I don't think you've seen it, so I don't think that's enough. I mean, I think you've seen some, wow, some interesting moments because it was very contentious. But I don't think you've really seen the conversation, so I'd encourage you to do that. But there's a point made here kind of about humility, and humility's big, but, okay, we failed in Iraq and we failed in Afghanistan, and we failed for similar reasons, and that is not understanding the local population. And we can apply the same logic to Syria or Libya as well.

And once you rip the top off something, even if it's a malevolent something, what exists underneath the top? What's inside the bottle? And I am increasingly interested in the answer to that question, not just as a thought exercise and humility, but an actual answer to the question in Iran, right? I mean, the famous clip is, what's the population of Iran? But the point really isn't necessarily one of humility. in the end, I don't think. It's like, hey, if we remove, and I'm not arguing against it. I'm just arguing against it, it's time to understand the answers.

If you remove the Ayatollahs, if you do the itatollah, if you do pursue regime change, do you have sectarian violence? Is there a big ethnic divide in Iran? Do you have people that hate each other? Do you have tribal societies that had a farcical nation state superimposed upon them by Western powers that is now reverting to its tribalist staff? of murdering each other and you could answer who cares and honestly I wouldn't necessarily have much to say about your lack of caring until it creates a massive refugee problem

a flood of people into Europe and I would still say if your answer is who cares you're right it's Europe well what about when it's a breeding ground for terrorism and it spills back on to the shores of America so my point is I think we begin to answer those questions arriving at, what do we unleash? What is under here? It's also possible it's better, right, Wade? It is. You have to always consider that possibility.

You just don't want to presume it's the certainty. Yeah, I think that one of the problems with Iraq and Afghanistan was this persistent belief that people had that democracy, liberal democracy, is the natural state of humanity. That if you take away a strong leader, that people will just naturally rise up as sort of, they're all. be a army of Thomas Jefferson's there, just ready to establish basically the Constitution. And I think that has been proven false experientially, but it sounds insane. It sounds insane when you can argue with an idea when it's kind of in seed form, but once it shows itself to be insane, that's not good. So if there's any semblance of that, any kind of vestige of that kind of idea

hanging out in foreign policy circles, then that's a bad thing. And so you're not going to ask the obvious question, like you said. You're not going to ask what's underneath that because the only answer to that question in the sort of make the world safe for democracy eyes is liberal democracy. That's the thing that will just sort of naturally happen. And so what you do have to think about is how did the Iranian government, how does the Iranian government justify their power? And from what I understand, a big part of how they justify their power is that we will protect you from the great Satan, right? So if we are the great Satan and we try our best to knock out, if there are any civilian casualties, if there are any kind of ugly things happening in Iran, if we make the

population of Iran miserable, then we have to think, okay, well, does that in the population's mind justify the power of the people who are still there? And if somebody comes along, and for decades, this will protect you from the great Satan thing has been going on. and then somebody says, well, actually, I love the Great Satan. The Great Satan is amazing. Then that's going to be really tough to justify that person's power. So, again, all these little factions and things like that, it's a huge country. Meaning a new leader afterwards that is sort of put in place by Western powers of the United States,

who is overtly now aligned with the Great Satan in the people's minds is not going to be a very strong or long-lived leader. Right. And you can do a certain amount of leadership. just by pure force. You can hold people, you can put people in place and say, this is how it's going to be, and then justify your power over a certain amount of time. So if somebody comes to power that is friendly to America, and then a bunch of people, they just kind of hold the people down for a long time, justifying the power by saying, hey, if we don't do this, then you're going to be in this state. I don't know how the Iranian people see their government. I don't really

understand it. And again, the Iranian people, that's 90 million people, as we all looked up after the conversation between Tucker and Ted Cruz. But that's a ton of people. And I, Sean Davis made this point. If you, you can look at our own country and see how difficult it is to even understand it. And then to say a country that I don't have any experience in have not been following for a long time. Many people are experts from afar, and that's good. But I don't trust myself to make those judgments. The good thing, though, one huge improvement on any of these previous conflicts that we can make analogies to is that all of the points that you and I are making are being made in the room. So there are people who are thinking through these topics, wrestling with these topics,

and trying to make the best case they can for different perspectives in the room. And that just wasn't the case and hasn't been the case for a very long time. But I trust, again, the guys who are there more than I trust myself, really, to evaluate it. So I mean, I am basically what you would call a plan truster, which you can call me whatever name you want. But when it comes to dealing with Iran, Trump has been remarkably consistent about saying, the only thing I want from them is for them not to have a nuclear weapon. Okay, well, we'll see how far that kind of thing takes us. what that justifies, what kind of action it justifies. I think that the people around Trump right now

are way better than the people who are around Trump the first time around, and way better than the people who would have been around Kamala Harris administration, so we can at least be thankful for that. All right, the host of the Wade show with Wade, always enlightening, always thoughtful. Love talking to you, Wade.

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We call you, Alicia. Hey, two days, you've been talking about the last couple of days are numbers on Facebook, but you're doing really, really good numbers on Facebook, but you were also saying the community is growing on Facebook. So we see a lot of this from YouTube, but we're seeing a lot from Facebook as well, right? Yeah, we built a community over on the Facebook page. If you go to the community, it's called the Wallitia. You could join there.

You can get updates on the show, podcasts, when the show's live, updates on the new name, things like that. Yeah, so it's building, and we're over, you know, 10.5 million views on our Facebook page from things in the last 90 days. Nice. So we've got a big community over there. Nice. There we go. All right. Speaking of that, here we go.

Shell says, if they cross the border without leaving. permission, you are automatically a criminal. All of them must go, and if they want, come back legally. I do feel a little bit of semantical word games. We always say criminal, illegal alien. Illegal alien is implied criminality. And I don't want to hear about civil violations. You broke the law, and you're breaking a host of laws to simply be in this country illegally, regardless of whether not you're guilty of rape or murder or a property crime. In and of itself, you are breaking laws being in the country illegally. Mary Urban says, all of you have a hard time remembering the constitutional right to due process.

They are not illegal until they are given due process. If illegal, deport. Left is all about that. Well, first of all, there is not a crackerjack box issued. One size fits all concept of due process. And a illegal immigrant, a resident, not a U.S. citizen, and every other variation in between, you understand the variations I'm talking about, illegal immigrant, permanent, permanent resident, citizen of the United States, all have different levels of Supreme Court decided, constitutionally protected levels of process. Despite that ad, suspected illegal immigrants are not being nabbed up by masked men and immediately deported to El Salvador. They are through the judicial process, an immigration

judge, being afforded the concept of due process, which is, by the way, overseen by the Secretary of State, ultimately. So, at least when it comes to the visa processes of permanent residents. You are getting due process. Your handmade tales vision of the United States is not what's playing out on the streets of Los Angeles. And your crackerjack box version of due process is not the moral high ground and legal foundation you seem to think it is, Mary. Fritz Volz says child transition is child abuse. Parents and doctors need to be prosecuted. And A.Y.I says, remember, there's no such thing as trans children. Stop the abuse. A little bit earlier in our conversation, we were talking about a variety of things, including Beavis and Butthead and the View and my Doberman.

So on Facebook, Joanne Lorry says, hey, Will Kane, you are the best. I learned to walk, grabbing the ear or mouth of our Doberman and pulling myself up. And she walked me around the house. They are the best. They are the best. I have a lot of opinions. I've had a lot of them. I will tell you, I have a lot of opinions on Dobermans, meaning American, European, male, female, pros, cons, I've had them all. She read a Doberman book. Black, fawn, red, blue. I got opinions on them all. I love them all, but I have opinions on them all.

Jay Dant Mata says Beavs and Butthead were better entertainment than Whoopi or Sunny combined. Agreed. little lakito says no woman can wear what she wants much less publicly speak against males in iran totally true finally glinda over on facebook writes the view is a pathological liberal hot mess propaganda machine destructive and stupid media yes but do they know it how about my rhetorical question do you think that a bc let me tell you something I don't know them. I don't know.

Is it Bob Iger is running Disney, which owns ABC, which runs The View? Not a stupid man. Liberal man, but not a stupid man, right? And when I say liberal, I am doubtful, highly doubtful. You know, an Elon Omar crazy, Sunny Hosten whoopey type liberal. Probably more like a, I don't know. I really don't know. but my guess is a Bill Clinton-type liberal who probably is given in to some of the wokeness

of the current day rage, you know, but I'm doubtful. He looks up at whatever time on ABC and sees what's happening on The View and goes, man, I'm proud. I would imagine. That's some damn good programming. I would have, and by the way, the ratings, the ratings, I mean, I beat it. I beat the View. Yeah.

Will Keynesho beats The View, and they're on broadcast, and we're on cable. What is that, Patrick? He clapped, and you gave me a... Anybody can beat the View. Come on. Who can't beat the View? Wow, low bar. Damn.

It's not, that's not true. So you put the bar this low. It's not a low bar. I hopped up. It's not a low bar in the ratings. Okay, I beat CNN and MSNBC. That's a low bar. Combined.

What's the difference between broadcast and cable? What are you talking about? Are you for real? No. Broadcast gets way more views. You know the difference? Are you just asking me to clarify for the audience? Clarify for the audience, yes.

Oh. Okay. Well, that's broadcasting. Cable, well, first of all, broadcast is what we historically know of as television. Four main networks, ABC, CBS, and NBC. Then along in the 90s came Fox. You got it through rabbit ears over the air. However many hundreds of millions of homes got broadcast television, greater exposure.

For example, how that plays out is the Today Show is on at 8 a.m. in the East and 8 a.m. in the West. How's that? Because tape delayed in the West, right? But cable doesn't live in the same universe like that. Cable is one constant stream over literally cable. Cable, of course, took over television, and now that's being taken over by streaming. But when that happened, the broadcast channels, you began to consume not over the air, but through cable. So you're like, what's the difference now? Well, the difference is they still time delay their stuff. That's one. And two, complete coverage. So those broadcast networks are going to have 100% penetration on cable. Do you know what I mean by that? Like you buy a cable package and just because you have that doesn't mean you have the tier that has HBO or the tier that has whatever else. I don't even know what the packages are anymore. But your basic level tier, the cheapest, the cheapest got you broadcast networks, right? Which means which always meant they were in the most homes it's that's you can only get a number you know based on how many homes you're in channel two channel three channel four that's another

thing even even being on those numbers historically was incredibly powerful over say i don't know on your cable system if fox is channel 43 you know and the answer is people just people don't hit page down that much you know so tons of advantages to being broadcast by the way a lot of that's going away. I don't, you know, not, I, I do YouTube TV. There's no numbers. I don't know what you guys do. Like, there's no channel numbers anymore. I don't, I don't do that at all. Yeah. Plus, it just corrals everything you watch and it knows what you watch and puts it together. It's great. Yeah, pretty much. There's, there's very little discovery anymore. You know, like on YouTube TV, you have your home and then there's a live. But even when you go to live,

it has that thing that shows the things you most often watch and what's on. So you really do that. Think about what home base used to be. Home base was that cable screen, right? With the horizontal lines and you just page down, page down, page down as you're looking at what's on. That's kind of over. It exists, but it's kind of over. You memorize channels. Now it's just I used to know what Disney was on. Oh, yeah, you can't memorize numbers. ESPN was on. It was on the same number every time. I'd memorize the numbers. Yeah. That's all over pretty much. But watch the Wilcane show at 4 p.m. on Fox News channels. So that's the lesson in the end to a days.

Yes. Watch that. Yes. But anyway, the view has a lot of built-in advantages. Their ratings are fine. So you could argue that the ratings, Bob Iger could go, I'm not too proud of this, but at least it's rating. But I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, so that brings you back to my initial question. Do you think he says at some point, you know what? this is so bad it's good this is so stupid it's funny I don't know is it is there an argument is there a meta argument

that at the high levels of Disney they're like we got our own Beavis and Butthead like some parts of me thinks like we're playing into Bob Eager's plan by playing their clips you know what I'm saying and talking about it like that's what he realized it is now you know

yeah I'm not convinced of virality no ratings and you don't monetize virality. Now, I will say media executives are just as manipulatable as the common

man of thinking if something's going viral or getting played, then therefore it's relevant. Because it's still relevant in a small little pond of social media, right? That doesn't mean because we're all playing whoopey, a bunch of people go, you know what? Tomorrow?

I'm watching the view. I don't think that's... I don't think that's happening a ton. But it could. I want to meet the people who watch it. Like, who is it? Call us up. Leave a comment.

I know a lot of people. I know who you are. I really want to know who you are. I know a couple people who watch the view. Like seriously watch it? Like for, like, they like it? No, yeah, a little. I think like it's the kind of thing that they are sitting around the house,

folding laundry, I think it's a strong female audience, you know, because it's usually mid-morning. No, it's mid-morning. I mean, there's data on this. I know. I will bet you the views audience is at least 70% female. At least. It's geared to female. That's what it is. Isn't it supposed to be the view from that side? That's the whole point of it is. Yeah, that's how it started. Yeah,

back in the day. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, 70, 75% female. And I think it's one of those things it just sort of feels like there's some energy you know it's not guiding light it's not the price is right it's not a game show at that time of day it's it's the sort of thing that when tv washed over you was probably a different energy to wash over you but i you know curiously i would imagine some of those ladies who would have watched that at what 11 a m 10 a m on a tuesday could easily stream you know uh whatever you know osama bin laden do documentary on Netflix if they wanted, you know. I don't know. Anyway, is it Beavis and Butthead?

All right, let's move to this. The Los Angeles Lakers are going to sell Jeannie Bus, the bus family. Let's sell Los Angeles Lakers for $10 billion. Tintfoil, do you have it in front of you? Who's the man that's buying Los Angeles Lakers? Is his name Walton? What's his name? He's muted. His name is... Don't ever, ever, ever throw a curveball or an unexpected pitch at tinfoil. Just don't.

Will? I've been doing this long time. Why would you do that? He had panic face. He did not unmute himself and he did not have the answer. I did have the answer. I mean...

It was Mark Walter. We couldn't hear it. Mark Walter. I'm a shame. Why do you keep yourself muted? Are you doing things in the background? Are you gas- Well, I do, I do, why are you in, like, you never meeting?

You never know, like, sometimes, you know, get a little hiccup or burp or whatever, or, you know, I don't want. He's actually talking trash about you during the show on his microphone. He doesn't want to be here. Well, well, on text, because I can see his, I'd be able to see his lips moving, but if he's doing it on text, you can still unmute yourself. You can still text. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what you're saving. here the rest of us from by muting yourself.

Anyway, the Buss family is synonymous with the Los Angeles Lakers in the same way that the Jones family is synonymous with the Dallas Cowboys. For that matter, the Steinbrenners are synonymous with the Yankees. And it got me wondering and you could argue this is a little bit of wishful thinking because I did see a

tinfoil hat conspiracy in my sports feed of maybe this means Luca's not going to resign with the Lakers. and we could get him back in Dallas. But I started to think when you have an ownership group

that's synonymous with a major franchise and that ownership exit stage left, what is that, it introduces at least some vulnerability for that franchise. Like, the best example I can probably come up with is Manchester United,

who is basically the Yankees of the English Premier League, and man, have they fallen on hard times. And there's been a change in ownership group. And you wonder, like, the Lakers are the cowboys of the NBA. And with a new ownership group, can you presume it's always going to be the case? Now, you still have the beach, you still have the palm trees, you still have the city of Los Angeles, you still have the purple and gold,

and you still have the history. You have magic. You have Kareem. So you have all of that, Kobe and Shaq. But it is a moment, like, the ground is shifting, as it does in California, underneath your feet. And maybe everything's fine. at the end of the tremors.

But I do wonder, hey, has it happened? So two of days, we did look it up. And you think the best example besides English soccer of this is in the NFL. Yeah. Dan Snyder with the Washington football team, formerly the Washington Redskins, bought in 99. Before that, they had three Super Bowl wins. I mean, they just went downhill since he bought the team.

They changed the name. He's just been siphoning off money. um the fans can't stand them just overpaid players that kind of thing so i think it's the closest to ruining a franchise after having a lot of success famously owned by jack kent cook the washington redskins now you can't put changing the name on dan snider no in fact dan snider he didn't want to withstood public pressure for a long time and didn't want to that was a mob driven effort that he fought against until ultimately he basically didn't the washington redskins die basically during the george floyd riots like isn't that when he finally folded yes during the

great national awakening yep exactly like he wasstood years of it he just couldn't it's just the same way aunt jemima went down at the same time can we revisit everything that had to go down during the great national awakening i think a lot of us coming back aunt jama uncle ben The Washington Redskins. Yeah. And some of it coming back. Oh, my God. Well, like, there is a little bit of a put.

The Redskins. There's a push to bring back the Redskins. Right. What about all those statues they took down? Christopher Columbus were taken down that summer. Everywhere. I want to revisit of every brand and every mascot that had to die in 2020 and 2021. I want to complete and exact.

exhaustive list. We're going to do that. We're going to do that maybe on the Canaan Sports Edition of the Wilcane Country tomorrow. But, yeah, I think the commanders, the Redskins is a pretty good example, nothing to do with the name change, but Snyder certainly correlates to a time where that franchise went downhill. And it's probably hard for a young person to know what a marquee franchise that was at one point. I mean, that was a marquee franchise of the NFL. Top five? Definitely top ten. Yeah, yeah.

Right? I'd say like Cowboys, I mean, Redskins is up there. I mean, who else is up there? Packers were always up there. Yeah, but they had like their down period in the knees and, you know. The Packers, for sure. Franchises have their down period, but you could have argued that there's a handful of franchises

whose brand recognition and esteem survived their down times, right, spanned a level of decades that you would have called them marquee franchise. For example, I would still say the Chicago Bears are a marquee franchise, even though they have not been very relevant for a very long time. That's based upon their history, brand recognition, and so forth. Packers are, Steelers are, cowboys are, giants are, but I would have put the Redskins franchise above the Giants and certainly above the Eagles at that time.

and the Raiders were up there, but now no one would put the commanders in that boat, right? I don't think anybody would put them in a top five, probably not a top ten. Now the Patriots are ahead of them and the Niners, so forth. So that's a good example. And I'm not saying that's going to happen with the Lakers. That is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying one of the foundational pillars of who you have been

for the better part of, what is it, 45 years is now going away and you enter the age of the unknown. The Lakers. Their brand's too big. And for what it's worth. Go ahead, two days. Their brand's too big. I mean, people who aren't even Lakers fans wear Laker gear.

I just don't see it happening ever. I mean, they are beyond any sort of downfall. to me. They better resign Luca. The better. I mean, that might be the most important thing to happen to that franchise because LeBron will be done at some point in the next couple of years. They got to have a star.

They better resign Luca or trade for Cooper flag. All right. If the Lakers are worth $10 billion, Cowboys, $20 billion, Yankees. Let's do that as well tomorrow. Canon Sports, the most valuable sports franchises in the world. We've got already some topics ready. For Friday's edition of Canaan Sports of Will Kane Country, we hope you will subscribe at Apple or Spotify.

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