Will Cain Country - Is Trump About to Start a War With Venezuela? (ft. Sen. John Kennedy)

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

Story 1: The DEI and "#MeToo" movements might have had good intentions, but their implementation ended up alienating an entire generation of white men entering the professional field. Will and The Crew break down an article from Jacob Savage describing his experience being denied a lucrative job in a TV writers’ room for being a white Millennial man, and share their experiences of how these movements effected their careers and personal lives. Story 2: Senator John Kennedy (R-LA) joins Will to discuss America’s economic challenges, why the Senate hasn’t pursued another reconciliation bill, and his frustrations with government dysfunction. He also weighs in on the Robert E. Lee statue replacement, the FBI’s lack of probable cause in the Mar-a-Lago raid, and the U.S. military's involvement with Venezuela. Story 3: Will and The Crew debate if the NBA's mid-season tournament is a dud, before reacting to FOX News' Senior Medical Analyst Dr. Marc Siegel explaining his objections to reclassifying cannabis from Schedule I to Schedule III.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, the disappearing, millennial white male, a lost generation. Two, the FBI did not feel like it had probable cause, but the DOJ said, go ahead anyway. Raid Mar-a-Lago with Senator John Kennedy. Three. Robert E. Lee has disappeared. But he was once described as one of the four great Americans by President Dwight D. Eisenhower. It is Wilcane Country streaming live on a Wednesday, just a few days, a little more than a week away from Christmas right here at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel and the Wilcane Facebook page. We hope you are ready.

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The one day you don't wear it is shipping day. Go get your Buffalo Jackson. You know, it feels like everything is coming to a head. Everything is hitting 100 miles an hour just when you think that the country and corporate America, the economy and the United States shifts into down gear for Christmas. There's no sense of relief when it comes to the news cycle and there's no sense of relief on the to-do list. And amidst that, one of the most viral and important stories of perhaps the last couple of years drops at Compact Magazine, one of the most important stories about an entire generation lost, the generation of white millennial males. Let's get into that with story number one. Jacob Savage is a Los Angeles-based writer, and writing in Compact Magazine under a headline that reads The Lost Generation, the disappearance of the white male writer, he points out that the world is not rooting for you.

In fact, it's deliberately rooting against you with several quotes in this. From various industries like academia, television, journalism, he quotes. Quote, the white men shut out of cultural industries didn't surge into other high-status fields. Quote, the demographic shift reshaped not only who told the stories, but which stories got told. In this article, The Lost Generation Jacob Savage, a self-described liberal, talks about what has happened starting with the year 2014. and what has going to leave, in its wake, a generation of disillusioned, unemployed, and radicalized young men. He writes in this article that this isn't a story at all about white men. It's a story about white male millennials in professional America, about those who stayed and those who mostly stayed,

quiet, the same identity, a decade apart, meant entirely different professional fates. If you were 40 in 2014, born in 1974, beginning your career in the late 90s, you are already established. If you were 30 in 2014, you hit the wall. Because the mandates to diversify didn't fall on older white men, who in many cases still wield enormous power. They landed on us, the millennial white men. And in this article, Savage shares with the reader some incredible stats. I'm going to share some of these stats with you right now as they span across several industries. How about TV writing?

In TV writing, which many of you listening are sitting there going, well, I'm not in TV writing. No, but you consume, presumably, television shows and movie. In 2011, 48% of the lower level writers were white men. By 2024, that number had dropped to 11.9%. From 48% to 11.9%. Think about the decisions and think about the discrimination. Think about the cancellation. Think about the discouragement.

Think about the lack of hiring that would be required to reduce a stat from 48% to 11%. And it wasn't just in television writing. It was also in academia. here's the Harvard Humanities tenure track for professors. Can professors get tenure? Can they become full-time? Can they set themselves up for retirement? In 2014, 39% of those professors at Harvard were white men. By 2023, less than a decade letter, 18% were white men. From 39% to 18%. These stats are echoed. across industries and across companies. In media, brands like the Atlantic, Vice, BuzzFeed, and Vox, all move from majority male, majority white staffed, to a far more diverse, far less representative when it comes to white males,

staff. Two of a day's Dan and Tenfo, Pat, are both millennial white males. I happen to be Gen X. But I was in media. I was at ESPN about when this timeline started. And this timeline, as Savage points out, begins in 2014. It begins essentially with Ferguson, with the after effects, perhaps, of Trayvon Martin. The after effects of Barack Obama's, if I had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon Martin.

Of Michael Brown hands up, don't shoot. And then, quickly on its heels, me, And what it resulted in was not just a more diverse workplace that more represents the United States of America, but the boxing out of really honestly one of the largest constituencies in the United States of America, white men. And it fell specifically on those men that hadn't yet climbed the latter. Those who didn't yet have the power, those who could be passed over for a young, black woman, for a young white woman, for anyone who happened to be gay.

He points down this article, every single identity characteristic meant an increased chance of promotion, an increased chance of representation, except for the, in many cases, overt discrimination against white men in this age cohort who hit the employment world at this time. And it's a pretty shocking, not just statistical case study, but real world stories from men, because I think it's easy to go, oh, the poor white man is statistically now underrepresented. Wasn't he overrepresented for decades? That only works when you think of people as a stat. That only works when you think of people as a member of a group. but it doesn't work when you think of people as a human being.

Because Savage Rights in here, this was it. The moment our careers were supposed to take off, we'd put in our time. I've been tutoring SATs and reselling tickets to make Innsmeet while I wrote. And five years seemed par for the course, waiting five years to get into a writer's room, to get hired, to have the real job based on slightly older guys who'd followed the same kind of timeline. But, of course, by 2016, we were already too late. the showrunner in this case savage being a tv writer emailed us back apologetically i initially thought i might be able to bring you guys on he wrote but in the end it wasn't possible

we met with the executive anyway he was a gen x white guy who told us how he loved our pilot but the writer's room was small he explained apologetically and the higher level writers were all white men they couldn't have an all white male room maybe if the show got another season they'd be to bring us on. They never did. In two a days, Dan and tinfoil, Pat, you guys are this demo. You are this guy. You are the white male millennial. I told you that I feel like I experienced it to some extent because those basically overlap the years that I worked for Disney, that I worked for ESPN. I didn't see this so much in the years that, for example, I worked at CNN, 2010 through 2014 into 2015, but in the years 2015 to 2020 when I worked for Disney, you definitely began to see

the rise of not just this term that loses all personality, identity politics, but you begin to see the rise of identity currency. You will be preferred. You will be benefited if you check certain box and you will be punished and you will be discriminated if you check other boxes. What we now know is clear is you. Dan, you, Pat, in some ways before I ask you guys your own personal experience or what you saw, I will tell you this, I've always felt like a late bloomer.

I don't think my career has matched my age. Were you short when you were? I wasn't the first guy in middle school, maybe early high school, to hit puberty. I was always a late bloomer. I think that's a fair characterization. debuting at number 43 on Mediite's most influential list of 2025. Let it go. An up-and-comer, as described by Mediite at the age of 50.

But in many ways, I think my career is that of a dude who's about 45. Let's hope that it has that similar path. An overnight success, an up-and-comer at age 50. Now, I had felt at times. And part of it's because, Dan, like you mentioned this morning, I started this career when I was about, what, in my 30s, in my mid-30s, quite honestly. So it's almost like starting over in your mid-30s when I really started in, well, in broadcast media. Before that, I'd been an entrepreneur in print media at a very small scale.

But that's kind of when I started this career. So I feel like my timeline does overlap, breaking in, getting on, rising up through the time of discrimination of the lost generation, which is exactly what the career path is for you guys. and what I'm getting at is I feel lucky I do I feel lucky for the opportunities that I had I feel like I earned them but I also feel lucky because you can get swept up everybody can get swept up in a wave in a movement and there is no doubt what Savage writes about here in compact was a wave was a movement and it definitely ignored merit is that not what you have seen? Is that not part of your personal experience? Are you not the lost generation?

I would say, I mean, I graduated college in 2010, and I started to see it then. Work-wise, I didn't really see it. But 2014 was my peak dating era. And what I noticed in that, there was a lot of skepticism as me as like just a white dude date. I don't know. I saw, I definitely saw a shift. So more in the dating world in my personal life and kind of just saying, like, you know what, take a backseat a little bit. You know, it's not your time. Jacob Savage has written the article on the effects of the lost generation in employment coming soon to Playgirl. The analysis of the lost generation on your dating life by Two at A's Dan, how the white millennial male was boxed out of the sexual marketplace that he had his family building creation.

I didn't say on the back burner. You write this, Dan. You write this, Dan, and it will go viral. You're right. It wasn't just our careers. We were boxed out of the sexual marketplace. The dating wasteland that was there left for the white male millennial. I mean, in some degree, yes. It was fine. It worked out okay. But yeah, no, it was definitely noticeable in that arena. Yeah, I think that the interesting question that's asked by Savage in this article of Lost Generation is, also asks, okay, so if you don't care, if the Jamel Hillian responds to this is, oh, tearshed for the white male, why don't you ask yourself one more question? Has it gotten better? Meaning, for all of this de-emphasis of merit and re-emphasis on diversity, is television writing better? Are movies better? Are television shows better? Is journalism better? Is academia better? Or does it

this also mirror the rise of, for example, this story brought to us by tinfoil patent. Does it not directly correlate to stories like this out of the New York Post? Teachers Union pushes neo-pronouns but claims America is a problem. Does it not mirror exactly the rise in the push of the anti-meritocracy, the rise in insanity in journalism, in television, and in academia. Tinfoil, Pat, what is a neo-pronown? So that's a great question. Glad you asked.

So a neo-pronown is something like, sorry, I thought we were doing this the last segment. Something like... I just told you. I forgot. You know, I used to do Fox and Friends Weekend, and Pete and I used to talk about the different guys that would come in and,

Doofox and Friends Weekend and the weather. And one of the things I would always say about Rick Reichmeath is, I mean, he is a junkball hitter. He'd stand at the plate, and no matter what you threw him, no matter a curveball, knuckleball, any type of toss. You could talk, you know, the television writers write, you know, a quote-unquote toss. Now you go to Rick, and now I'll go to Rick with the weather. But Pete and I would throw different things at Rick randomly and see how quickly and easily he would both not avoid the topic, address it, and position into his actual job, which is to share with everyone the weather. And we used to joke about, like, there's nothing you could throw it, Rick.

You couldn't throw the curve, you couldn't throw the sinker, you couldn't throw the slider. You could throw anything, and he would hit the ball. He'd hit the ball. Patrick, you are batting zero. I don't know that you've ever hit it, even if I'm throwing a meatball down the middle. If I throw a meatball down the middle to set you up. On a tee, I place the ball on a tee, and you somehow hit nothing. but air sure I mean like a lot of it is I just got a lot going on in my head I

mean there's a lot of planning that goes into this a lot it goes into it anyway but I do have an answer for you it is a conceptual identity something like cat cat or cat self so like we're going Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Z-Zer yeah things like that weird instead of your basic he he he she pronouns, you're going into something different. So these I've gone from not just the source of comedy on the internet, but they have risen

to the levels of teachers' unions pushing for neo-pronouns. I presume to be taught in leafy Northeastern colleges. Hey, I take a function of that. They're the smartest amongst of. like two a days Dan are educated in the important issues of tomorrow like whether or not you identify as a furry or a cat or your latest sexual kink that you're going to mainstream onto the floors of not just academia but Congress. If you want to see how this happened, if you want to see the direct correlation, if you want to see the loss of quality in America that represents the real decline of meritocracy, you need to know nothing.

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And we are joined by Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana. Senator, by the way, do I say it right? How are you? Yeah, I'm good. Let's do a little Louisiana talk, a little, Louisiana pronunciation. Say the name of your state, please. Louisiana. I don't say Louisiana. Some people do, and I don't correct them. This is America, but I say Louisiana. Okay, so I'm saying it pretty close to right when I say Louisiana.

You're doing fine. For a Texas boy, you're doing fine. You know, Texas, I probably told you. I told you this for Will. I'm proud of Texas. Texas is five and a half times bigger than Louisiana, but Louisiana is 10 and a half times more interesting than Texas. I just feel like, I feel like of all one time I went to Hollywood, Senator, and I sat in an office, you know, I was looking for jobs at one point. It was like, you know, this was this was not me being an actor. This is not something like this was like, you know, to probably to host some type of, you know, fear factor types. Who knows what it was? And I remember this executive saying to me, the most insulting compliments you can ever get

is to describe something as interesting. It means they don't really like it at all. It's generic. I understand. And if somebody says, that's interesting, it means it's not interesting. So, sorry, Louisiana. Well, you told me you were going to throw me a meatball right down the middle.

I thought that's what it was. I'm confident you can hit whatever pitch I throw. One more. I think it's still the biggest city. After Katrina, I feel like it could have gone below Baton Rouge, but I still think it's the biggest city. So how do you pronounce the name of the city down there all the way down there with the biggest French influence?

How do you pronounce that city? I say New Orleans. Now, some people say, particularly folks visiting, I say New Orleans. But I say New Orleans. What about Nalins? That'll work. Look, I can teach it round or flat. It doesn't bother me one bit when somebody mispronounces the name.

Louisiana, I just tell them to come here, visit, and while you're here, spend money. Because it's interesting. And he can hit any pitch no matter what that pitch is. Well, no, no, it's New Orleans, Louisiana. It is Senator John Kennedy, which, by the way, we have a lot to talk about today, and I'd love to talk about some of the things you have mentioned. Let's start serious, Senator. Let's start with the idea of a new reconciliation bill. Let's talk about affordability politics.

Let's talk about the economy. You gave an interesting speech recently when you distinguished between what's going on now, which is, as you described it, disinflation. That's the slowing down of Biden-era inflation from 9% to the current 2 to 3%. But distinguishing that from deflation, very different and in your description, very dangerous. Well, let me say first. I want to give credit to the president, to the Republicans in Congress, and to the Federal Reserve for getting inflation down. It wasn't that many years ago, well, that we had 9% inflation. And that inflation didn't originate in a bat.

that inflation was man-made, and that man's name is President Joe Biden. So we started at 9%. We've got it down to 3%. That's the good news. The bad news is that 3% inflation still means prices are going up. Now, what do we do about? First, we acknowledge the problem. And it is a fact that when many moms and dads lie down to sleep at night and can't,

one of the things they're worried about is cost of living. And you can say, well, you shouldn't be worried about it because things are better. Well, they're still worried about it. And my job is to address what people are worried about. What should we do about it? The president can't do everything, okay? Congress needs to do its part. Without depending on a single Democratic vote, we can start passing bills tomorrow to reduce

the cost of housing, the legislation's ready, to lessen the cost of health care. We have over 200 tax changes that if we made, they would stimulate the economy and increase wages. We do it through what's called reconciliation. That's how we pass the one big beautiful bill. And the one big beautiful bill, by the way, is going to help once it kicks in this year. But since we passed it back in July, we hadn't done anything. And I have been, Senator Thune is our majority leader. I can't just draft a reconciliation bill and bring it to the floor under the rules. Only the majority leader can bring a bill to the floor. And I have begged Senator Thune and I'm going to continue to do it. He's my friend. He's a good man. But he needs to do another reconciliation

bill. Let's stick with the economics for just one moment, Senator. You give great voice in making the complicated simple to making the complicated understandable. You do a great service in describing for us disinflation. That's the slowing down of the rate of inflation. So you're right, and I don't take for granted that many people watching and listening necessarily, intuitively know what you're talking about. When under Biden, inflation is at 9%. Prices are going up 9% annualized.

And when it's at 3% we're down from the 9% and that's to be described as disinflation. However, that didn't mean prices went down. That meant the rate of increase went down. We were just going up by 3% now, not going up by 9%. Well, some people, a lot of people, as you point out, feel rough about the economy. me. So what would they like? They would like prices to actually come down, which we would call

deflation. Now, one of my producers, for example, Patrick, yesterday said to me, I love deflation. I said, I don't think you do love deflation. It's incredibly dangerous. And it's as hard as inflation is to control. Historically, deflation is uncontrollable. So talk to me about the dangers then of deflation. And if we can't do that, how do we make prices something that doesn't. doesn't feel so bad to Americans? Well, look, you made excellent point. You've got to be careful what you ask for. Deflation can be dangerous.

Deflation generally occurs, for example, in a recession. We can reduce prices, not just slow the rate of increase, but we can reduce prices tomorrow. You know how we do it? Go into a recession. what's the consequence of that 10 or 12% unemployment so the cure is worse than disease in China right now China's economy sucks they have a lot of problems they're experiencing deflation the people of China are they're mad as a murder hornet I mean

they're the Communist Party of China is working overtime to keep their people in control So deflation can be very hurtful, but there is a way to selectively lower prices and reduce that 3% inflation to down to 1% or a half a percent. By, for example, we spend $3 trillion a year, we, the business community does, on goods and services. We over-regulate business. Those costs are passed on. That's one of the reasons goods and services cost so much. You want to lower the cost of goods and services, cut regulation by 30%. Those costs will be passed on in lower prices to consumers.

But you can't do that. A president can't do that on his own. You've got to pass a bill in Congress. And we can't pass a bill doing that in the Senate because of my Democratic colleagues who aren't going to vote for it. So that leaves one option, reconciliation, and I have absolutely no idea why we haven't been working on a second reconciliation bill now since we passed the first one. It just makes no sense to me. If I went to Chuck Schumer tomorrow, Will, and said, Chuck, here's your Christmas gift.

You can pass any bill you want to, subject to the Budget Control Act, and you don't need a single Republican vote. All you need are Democratic votes. what do you think he'd do he'd jump on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich he'd be all over so why aren't we doing and i don't understand why well the other the other economic principle which would make this much better for the average american is to increase real wages that you can handle a certain amount of price increases maybe even one to three percent if everyone's wages are rising commiserately and able to handle those price increases but that's just not what we've had it's not we've had for the law for a vast percentage of Americans. I don't know in front of me, but my guess is it's in the 60 to 80%

range of Americans haven't seen real wages increase for really, honestly, quite some time. So inflation hurts even more when your revenue's not coming in as a family. And I don't know what you guys can do in Congress. I think deregulation can help in that as well because you would hope it would result in job creation and wage growth. But I would love for you to answer your rhetorical question as well. I think we've talked about in the past, and you've met me with, I don't know, which may be your honest answer, but, you know, why won't the Republican Senate work towards another reconciliation bill? I mean, honestly, I don't know. And I want to say, again, Senator Thune is my friend, and I like him. But when I talk to John Strait, and the majority

leader, let me say it again, only the majority leader can bring a bill to the floor. If I could change one rule in the Senate, that's the one I'd change. I think other senators should be able to bring a bill to the floor. But be that as it may, that's the way the rules are now. I've asked John a number of times, and he keeps saying all options are open. And I respect that. All options have been open for five months. Might it be, Senator? might it be, and I've had this conversation, as recently as early this week with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, about his position on the filibuster moving forward, something that you and I have discussed as well. I've heard your reluctance to do away with the filibuster. Senator Mullen

told me that his position has changed, that he is now open to nuking the filibuster, or at least in limited application doing away with the filibuster. But I've seen the rebuttal some have said about this in that, even if you did away with the filibuster, or how about this, even if you put forward a reconciliation bill, could you get 51 Republicans? Could you get Susan Collins? Could you get Lisa Murkowski? Could you actually get 51 Republicans? Yeah, we could. We got it on the one big, beautiful bill. Now, we had to bring JD Vance in to break the tie. But just because something's hard or we may fail is no reason not to do it. And look, all the reconciliation bill is it's a mechanism through which we temporarily get rid of the filibuster, but whatever we pass

has to be within the contours of the Budget Control Act. What does that mean in English? That means we can't do anything we want to under reconciliation with just 51 votes. But we could still do a whole lot. For example, we could implement those 200 tax changes that I talked about that will stimulate the economy that will cause wages to go up. And I think wages are going to go up once the one big beautiful bill, the first reconciliation bill that we passed kicks in on January 1. But, well, I talked about this in my book. Okay. One of the points of I made was these archaic rules in the United States Senate, for example, that only one person, one person can bring a bill to the United States Senate. Okay? That just makes no sense to me.

The other thing I talked about in the book, and this is an example of it, one of the criticisms of Congress, the Senate, is that it takes us, sometimes it takes us, sometimes it takes us weeks, months, years to get nothing done. Now, we've been sitting here for five months. I'm not saying we've been doing nothing. We've been working on a budget and confirming the president's nominees, but we haven't been passing bills to lower the cost of living for the American people. And whether you agree with them or not, that's what people are worried about. the cost of housing, the cost of health care. They're tired of having a cell plasma to go to the grocery store.

And we may think they're wrong. Things are better than they think. But they still think it. And if you want to win an election and you want to serve your people, you have to respond to people's concerns. American people aren't stupid. If they tell me cost of living is a problem, I believe them. And we can do something about it.

instead of saying, well, the president needs to fix this and issue another executive order. There's only so much he can do by executive board. Don't go anywhere because we're not done with the great senator from Louisiana. Senator John Kennedy here on Wilcane Country. Canada can be a global leader in reducing the harm caused by smoking, but it requires actionable steps. Now is the time to modernize Canadian laws so that adult smokers have information and access to better alternatives.

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of the American people. I want to talk to about a couple of other items here today as well, Senator Kinney. Some of which I'm not sure there are meatballs across the center of the plate, but I do find them incredibly interesting. This stumbled across all of our attention. This is from, I'm going to guess, roughly 70 years ago. This is President Dwight Eisenhower talking about Robert E. Lee. Watch. I just want to take a word about this for it. I think there are good many of you

people here, both photographers and representatives of press, have been going into my office for the past four and a half years, occasionally. No doubt you've noticed that on the walls are the prints of four men. Men that I consider in my book are about the four top Americans of the past. They are Franklin, Washington, Lincoln, and Lee. And anybody, whoever tries to put me in any other relationship, with respect to General Lee is mistaken. Wow. He's talking about Robert E. Lee, Senator, as one of the four-grossed Americans in his estimation in the history of this country. Now, why is that something to discuss today?

Well, the Robert E. Lee statue has been taken out of the halls of Congress. It's now been replaced. That's what's new today. It's been replaced by someone else to sit in a place of honor. You've seen it. You live in Louisiana. I live in Texas. one of the most famous high schools and high school football programs in the state of Texas has

been Midland Lee, renamed Midland Legacy. They're going back to Midland Lee. How do you think we as a country should handle the historical figures of the South? Well, first, to give some context, and I know you know this, every state is allowed to show one statute, to bring one statute to represent your state in the capital. And Virginia for years has had Robert and Lee. And now they're replacing it with someone else. A young lady, I shouldn't say because I don't remember the details. I just glanced at the article. That is Virginia's right. And I'm not going to criticize Virginia for doing that. My question, though, is what are they going to do with the statue of Robert E. Lee? Are they going to go back and display?

it in Virginia, or are they going to put it in a warehouse somewhere? And if so, are they going to put it in a warehouse somewhere because General Lee was the commander of forces for the army and the war between the states? And I get really tired of this implication that somehow today people, both black and black and white in America are somehow responsible for what somebody did a hundred years ago. I don't think that anyone, black or white, living today is responsible for what somebody, anyone, did black or white, a hundred years ago. I don't. History changes or times change. History doesn't. And I don't believe in judging, I don't believe in judging history and people in history based on the morality or

ethics or political correctness of today. I just don't. Robert E. Lee, as President Eisenhower, General Eisenhower talked about, was an important, is an important historical figure. and he was a great general. And I just don't know why anybody should be ashamed of that. I'm not saying that's why Virginia replaced him. But we'll be able to tell a lot by asking, okay, they wanted to change statutes, but what are they going to do with General Lee's statute? You cannot judge, to your point, historical figures by the modern day morality and ethics,

every single person in history would fail. Barack Obama would fail the modern morality test of the modern-day Democrat Party. And you and I, and everybody watching and listening, will fail the modern-day morality test of tomorrow, of 10 years, of 20 years ago. And that does not amount to erasing someone from their presence in history. I know you have a bit of a tight schedule, so I do want to ask you just about two important items. The FBI reports are that the FBI said they don't. did not have probable cause to raid Mar-a-Lago and President Trump's residence under Joe Biden,

to which the DOJ said, go anyway, go anyway, ignore the lack of probable cause as highlighted by the FBI. Your thought, Senator? Ask me the sick bucket. I mean, look, I want to find out what happened, and I want to find out who made the decision to go forward when the FBI said, you don't have probable cause. You know, I mean, my Democratic friends, I don't put all of them in this bucket, will, but they talk about the rule of law, and we've got to follow the rule of all. Well, and I believe in the rule of all.

How come it doesn't apply to the Biden Justice Department? And how come when we bring it up, they say, well, whoa, you're just vengeance, retribution. No, it's not. If the FBI told, whether it's President Trump or anybody, if the FBI said, look, listen, me, Ed, you don't have probable cause to conduct a rate and the DOJ did it anyway, I want to know who made that decision and why they did it anyway. And by the way, they're subject to lawsuit under Section 1983. And that's just common sense. That's what I mean about getting rid of the jackaloons at the Department of Justice, firing them and lifting up the goods.

And I want to know more. I just, if that's true, it's just one more, one more bit of evidence that Judge Garland was out of control. Well, I can imagine President Trump is also someone that wants to know who. and based upon his past, he might be ready to sue. Just ask the BBC. Last, because it's important, Senator, this is what President Trump posted last night. Regarding Venezuela, he wrote on Truth Social. Venezuela is now surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America.

It will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before. What, Senator, as far as you can tell, and as far as you know, are we doing? What is the plan in Venezuela? Well, the first part of the plan, I don't know if it's all of the plan will, but the first part of the plan is we're actually doing something in the war on drugs. We went to a hearing yesterday, a briefing, a classified briefing with Marco Rubio, Secretary Head Seth, General Kane. I came away from that hearing understanding that the boat strikes are legal the boat strikes are effective

we know we're killing drug dealers the intelligence is impeccable but that's only and I think a lot of people were saying you know for years we've talked about the war on drugs now somebody's doing something about it and cocaine shipments by sea to the United States are way, way down.

You know why? Because the drug cartels can't find anybody to drive the boats. They won't drive the boat. I mean, they don't want to die. Number two, Venezuela and Maduro, who runs Venezuela,

they're not just dictatorships. They're criminal organizations. They make their money off drugs and selling illicit oil. And the president has decided to enforce those sanctions and sees their tanker. He's not doing it unless he has a warrant from a federal judge. I am so happy that they're actually doing that. Is the president going to go further?

I don't know, Will. But if I were President Maduro, who was everybody voted against him, He used the army, which is helped by Cuba, to maintain power. He ignored democracy. He's a head of a drug cartel. If I were he, I would seriously think about negotiating a surrender. We can do this the easy way or the hard way. And I'm not going to lose any sleep if we restore Venezuela to a democracy. and I've listened to my colleagues and go, you know, your nation building, this is not right, we shouldn't use our military this way.

This guy, Maduro, is a thug, and he's selling drugs that are killing our children, and he's denying the people, the good people have been his way on, which should be one of the most prosperous countries in the world, a democracy. and I say knock him into a new zip code unless he leaves first. You can still get it in time. It's shipping day. If you wanted in your stocking, get How to Test Negative or Stupid, it is by the man you're listening to right now. It is by Senator John Kennedy. We always appreciate the time. Senator, love hanging out, love talking.

Thank you so much. Thank you, Will. You're a rock star, man. Thank you so much. Senator John Kennedy, how to test negative for stupid. It's a laudable and honorable goal to win, to win, not just fight, to win the war on drugs. And I hope that is something the United States pursues with gusto. My humble estimation would be, if you are serious, I don't know that you start, but you don't end with Venezuela.

Every single one of us knows that if you want to fight the war on drugs, you're talking about Colombia. talking about Mexico. So what is an armada doing off the coast of Venezuela? Like the senator, I'm not opposed. I'm not opposed. I'm not an isolationist. I'm not even an anti-interventionist. I only care about the answer to one question, and one question only. How does it serve America? I'm not suggesting there's not an answer to that question. It does deserve a follow-up. well, what is the cost-benefit analysis? But it does need to be explained. The president is set to address the nation tonight.

Many suspicions are that it will be about the affordability crisis, that it will be about economics. But I think soon we do need to understand exactly why the largest armada in the history of South America is now marshaled off the coast of Venezuela. Dr. Mark Siegel says, whoa, whoa, whoa, President Trump. I don't know about this move that we're making. it comes to marijuana, taking it possibly from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3. It ain't the marijuana of the hippies from the 60s. That and more when we come back on Will Cain Country.

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years on ESPN, I argued for a mid-season tournament in the NBA. Why? I'm a soccer fan. I'm a soccer fan. Never underestimate the influential power of man who's number 43 in politics, according to media. Dan, never underestimate the power of 43. Yes, it's my fault that you have the NBA Cup. Last night, the Knicks beat the Spurs in the NBA Cup. Champions champions the New York Knicks. Now my question is does anybody care?

Does anybody care? See, I'm a soccer fan and I got conditioned to this. I got conditioned to multiple trophies, you know? You know, in England, you win the Premier League, you can win the F.A. Cup. You can win the Carabao Cup. You can win the Champions League over in Europe. And it's fun because it gives you these little, you know, pops in a 10-month athletic schedule, it gives you these little pops. Like, ooh, we've got the FAA Cups in my finals. Let's see. You know, especially when there's not

in the Premier League, nor in the Lilliga or any of the European leagues, they don't have a playoff in a championship game. They just play the season. I figure you like that, Patrick. Just play a season, and whoever has the best record is the champion. But then you have these other things that are tournaments like the FAA Cup or the Champions League. And it gives you a a little variety, and it doesn't water down any of the trophies. You don't sit there and go, oh, well, you know, you won this trophy, somebody else won that trophy, or you won three trophies. It doesn't water it down.

It doesn't make it less than in soccer. But the guys that told me I was wrong about the NBA Cup would tell me, A, who cares? B, it could water it down. And right now, I don't think it's watering anything down, but I definitely think it's trending towards who cares? who cares that the Knicks last night beat the Spurs for the NBA I'm a Knicks fan I don't care

I don't care at all I mean so Well you watched You were texting us I did You watch I like watching Wemadiyama I watched the Spurs whenever they're on it's insane I literally had no idea until this morning

That it happened He just he talked about Wemiana I didn't know that was not a regular season game I just assumed It's weird It makes no sense for NBA So the thing is I was looking it up Like why is it

work in soccer, right? There's soccer is much more high stakes. You know, there's less scoring. You know, it's more important. With the NBA, it's just another game with tons of scoring. You see these players, it doesn't, there's not much of a difference or a need for it. Soccer is a different animal completely. So it makes a lot more sense for in-season tournaments.

I think it's because it's like in-season tournaments are baked into what soccer is. Soccer developed organically, and you had all of those. these different offshoots. There's more prestige, obviously. It kind of like grew, it was like a tree, two trees growing together and it kind of grew and molded together. Whereas like this is, you're taking something that already exists and you're trying to like shove something in the middle of it. I think that's fair. The knock on the NBA is it nobody cares including the players until the playoffs. Nobody tries. Last night, the Knicks for winning the NBA Cup, each player got a half a million dollar bonus and every coach as well. A half a million dollar bonus.

I did not watch. Dan, were they playing hard? Were they trying to win the NBA Cup? They were. It was getting chippy at the end. They were playing defense, which was surprising. They were really trying. Wemby played longer than they should have because he's been hurt.

He's been hurt. Well, that's good. Yep, Patrick, that's the thing. He's an alien. He's a space alien. He reinvents the game. He's unstoppable. You've never seen anything like him.

Can he stay healthy at seven? Is he 7-6? Is he 7-6? Is he 7-6? If my wife was like, how does he play like that? It's incredible. It's truly, truly, as a sports fan, things that you see, it is, to your point, Dan, it's something you have to watch. You have to see this guy play basketball.

But I think I might have been wrong. I think you've got to give it some time to develop. I think your points well taken, Patrick, it is manufactured. It's not organic. And that makes it less interesting. But you do have to give it a little time. And I don't know, is there a time down the road within the next five years where people begin to care about the NBA Cup? Right now, count me as I doubt it.

NBA fanciating. And Will might have got it wrong. See, I'm developing a sports league of my own where it's actually built into it. So that's what you have to do. You have to develop your own organic league. It's just all in-game tournaments the entire season. Patrick's got all these projects. Have you ever noticed that?

Yeah. Writing a script, starting a comedy show. having a podcast, starting a new sports league, commissioner of high lie. Like, are you playing the volume game? One of these things are going to pop? You realize that you're a white male millennial. Yeah, so you can't do anything of these. Yeah, it's been very detrimental to me.

And like when my scripted and get picked up, they said, this is extremely disturbing for a comedy. So we're going to pass. But I like to think it's because I'm a white male. Yeah. Well, you should. That's what everybody else does. It's not because it wasn't good.

It's not because you drive like an asshole. It's because everybody hates you for your identity. It's because you're a white male millennial. Embrace the victimhood, Patrick. You already have, I'm sure. Embrace the victimhood. If not for that fact, you could probably be commissioner of the fifth biggest sports league in America. High lie.

Bring back High Lie. You could be the commissioner of Highlight, Tinfoil Pat. All right. President Trump is. any moment now, it seems, set to readdress marijuana and move it from a Schedule 1, possibly to a Schedule 3 drug, opening it up for more testing, medicinal use. This is something that Dr. Mark Segal of Fox says, no, no, no, no, this is not good, not good with marijuana. Here's Dr. Siegel. The key here is what is a medical use? Because if you're going to go to Schedule 3,

you're saying there's proven medical uses, like testosterone replacement is in Schedule three, and everybody agrees that that has medical uses for replacement. The problem is that a huge study just came out of UCLA, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, looking at 15 years of research, 2,500 studies, and they concluded that there is no absolute evidence that it is useful for pain. It's possible that it's useful for pain, but it's not a proven first-line treatment. It makes anxiety worse most of the time because of the high levels of THC content, which I've written about, and it interrupts sleep, so you can use it to help you get to sleep, but then it also wakes you up in the middle of the night. So without proven

medical usage, it really doesn't fit Schedule 3. So that's, so this is fasting on, on several levels. So the, the idea you're shaking your head, Dan, you don't like what it was just said by Dr. Siegel? I completely disagree. It's, it's all based on personal experience. Based upon so based upon your own personal tests it helps you sleep not me I just mean others personal experiences others personal experiences right

well the I'm sure the comment section right now on YouTube and Facebook there is a significant number of people conservative self-describes conservative as well who totally disagree with Dr. Siegel there are because there are a lot of people who say it helps with various

maladies, including pain. The issue is, I don't doubt what he says about this study. Like, I do think setting aside your own personal experience, which is not to be invalidated, but I do think the line that medicinal marijuana is a valid or good pain coping mechanism has been accepted without much critical thought. It has moved from taboo to edgy. to a statement uttered as though it's irrefutable, to now, hopefully, a little bit of critical thought. Because I'm not sure, you know, I'm not sure that, you know, when you're talking about true medicine, like, does it, how does it work with pain inhibitors, how does it work with neurological, you know, connections, is it backed up by science?

And I know how we all are feel about the word science, capital S, science. But I think it does deserve its own studies because here's the thing like anything else in life, marijuana does come with a cost-benefit analysis. So what I'm talking about on the medicinal side that he's talking about is the benefit. Let's measure the benefit. Is it real? Is it backed up? It's not a drug. Has it received all of its proper studies?

It's literally just a plant. Why do you say it's not a drug? It's literally just a plant. It should never have been classified even as a drug. I mean, there's a lot of drugs that are plants, Dan, a lot. Sure. You know, I do a lot. Cocaine is a plant.

You got to do a lot of stuff to it to make it get there. But yeah. All you got to do is spark it up on it. Ibogaine. Ibogaine is a plant. Not a drug. And I've talked a lot about ibucane and advocated for ibupon. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be regulated.

Sure. It doesn't mean it. But the war of weed. I mean, even the proponents of Ibogaine say it should be regulated, that it's not recreational. That is freaking serious. and it should have serious application. You know, it's not complete banishment we're talking about. It's like what level of regulation and understanding of this.

Because, okay, we're measuring the benefit side of it. And that's all I feel like right there that he's advocating for. Then there is the next part, which is the cost side of it. And Colorado has been an experiment. And I don't think many are looking at Colorado's successful experiment right now in legalizing marijuana, full on. recreational, everything. And part of that, part of that has to be something he drops in there, which he says, THC ain't what it used to be. THC is much higher, much, and it does have negative effects, you know, nothing is a wonder drug. I refuse to accept, not alcohol, not nicotine, not nothing

comes without its cost side, right? Even coffee, whatever. Everything has a cost side of it. And the higher the THC content goes up, we see the different costs manifest. He talked about anxiety. Alex Berenston has been big on this. He's talked about it in our show, the rise of, you know, or contributing to other issues like, if you have bipolar, is this a good thing to be feeding your bipolar? If you have depression, it's a good thing to be feeding your depression, all of these things. So now back to your point, it's really not all natural as you continue to manipulate it into higher THC contents, right?

I mean, if you say, well, you know, cocaine got processed or whatever from different seeds. Making a higher THC content is just propagating different seeds. You're not adding, like, poison to it. Genetic modification? Yeah, exactly. The thing that we talk about with food supplies that we're concerned about? Right, but I'm just saying. But we're not concerned about it when it comes to marijuana?

I'm just saying you light it up and it is what it is. You don't have to do extra things to it once it grows and it's done. Like other drugs that do stem from plants. now talking about adding fentanyl and things to it that does happen and that is a problem big time fentanyl has fentinol has true medicinal use fentanyl is a thing they use in hospitals that's what that's where it started it's what's used for i don't know but i think this whole conversation and i imagine i imagine that the comment section yeah i mean i think dr segal talked about ketamine is i think ketamine schedule too and i mean talk about the rise that's a story everybody should be

talking about is the rise of ketamine So many, yeah, I've heard so many stories. Yes. Anecdotally in your life, you will hear a lot of people talking about the usage of ketamine. Yep. Same thing. I'm not sitting here being nanny state. I'm saying critical thought, analysis, how do we treat this stuff?

I'm also no longer a libertarian. Like, oh, everything and anything you want to do, there's no external effects. You don't hurt other people. Nonsense. Nonsense. And also, I think there's just something like what you endorse in society. Like, even if you're a hypocrite. hypocrisy is not the worst sin it's not you know hypocrisy is not the worst sin it's worse to be

consistently wrong you know like it's worse it is i see you making a face patrick it's just you don't want to tell patten oswald that's all what he thinks it's the hypocrisy is the worst sin i don't no i don't turn to patten oswald for my moral guidance it's the norm macdonald joke about uh his friend patten oswald who thinks to bill cosby the worst thing about the bill Cosby rapes were the hypocrisy. And the norm says, I think it's something else. I think it's the rapes. It's not the hypocrisy.

I think it might be the rapes. It's such a good point because we all hate hypocrisy, of course. But it, same thing with marijuana. Like we talk about marijuana and we've elevated it into this thing that, oh, yeah, it's all good. Hypocrisy. Oh, it's all horrible. Like, you know, if we're rank, maybe we should do that. Let's come up with a sin ranking, right?

Let's rank the sins. And we'll lean on the Bible in our own common sense and we'll rank the sins. Because right now, you know, the way America has evolved, number one, use of the N-word. The worst thing that could ever happen in society, use of the N-word. And then racism underneath that, by the way. Because it isn't racism above the N-word. It's not racism above the N-word. Because if a 14-year-old wraps the lyrics to a rap, a song with the N-Ward, no way's

concerned about whether or not he's really racist. They just care that he used the N-word. So that's capital punishment straight to death row on the N-word, you know, with America. So, you know, you go from that and then there's racism somewhere in there, but hypocrisy is really high. Murder, come on. I mean, 15, 15 to 20 years for murder, you know, and let's consider the circumstances. How was the murderer raised? Was it hardship in his life? What happened to them? You know? yes uh illegal immigration not a crime virtue not nope not a sin virtue just ask the oklon methodist church down here in dallas right now where they have a nativity scene set up you know with jesus behind a chainling fence because i mean i don't know i guess he was an illegal

immigrant in egypt when herod was trying to kill him i don't know but you know we'll rank the sins according to modern day america how it is and how it should be that would be a great top 10 list. Don't you think? I don't know. Get on it. Popular American culture. Get on it. Rank the sins. I will suggest that hypocrisy doesn't make the top

10. I can come up with 10 sins bigger than hypocrisy. You ever see those viral videos where it's like, you ever see those viral videos with these guys and it'll be like, I can name one quarterback better than Dak Prescott. And the other guy will go,

I can name three. And they go around the horn. A guy goes, I can name five. And another guy goes, I can name 11. And then somebody will call his bluff and be like, name 11. And then he has to name 11 quarterbacks better than Dak Prescott. Let's do that with sins. I can name X amount of sins worse than hypocrisy, you know, and see and see how low we actually get it.

Social sins, right? Yeah, I'm talking about in popular culture, the way we treat them, you know, in the news. Backyard Barberians. Plagiarism. Where's that rank? By the way, whatever Louis C.K. did, clearly a top five sin. He's out, baby, and you don't get to come back. You know, Louis C.K., capital punishment, whatever he, pleasured himself. Death penalty, death penalty. Louis C.K., done. So I also, while we're also producing, I hope you're writing this stuff down, Pat, because I'm spending pearls here. Me, too. We are recording. Let's revisit Me Too.

That doesn't mean anything. Just because we're recording, I'll ask you guys to get clips of it, and it doesn't mean anything. This is basically me speaking into the void, into nothingness. You guys won't remember it. That hurts so much. It's just a two of us. I want to revisit Me Too. Okay.

I want to revisit Me Too. Let's revisit Me Too. I want a list of everybody that was canceled and whether or not they've been able to come back. Assault is still bad, by the way. I would also like to do this on race cancellations. Like, I want to know, the ESPN dude that described Venus Williams tennis techniques as guerrilla warfare, has he been able to come back? I do have that written down already. Or is he?

I have that written down. I'm working on that. Dan? Dan, let's just take a moment real quick. Oh, I thought you had it right now. I thought you're about to tell us where he is. Oh, God, no. That tennis player.

You think so? That tennis announcer. I was about to say, Dan, let's take a moment because I just threw high heat, like a four-seamer, and I thought that he hit it. But he didn't. He's like, I've seen this pitch before, and in the future, when you throw that high heat, I'm going to hit it. Hit him right in the shoulder. Wow, he was prepared. So, yeah, I want to do those things in the future.

I don't think I hit you with the pitch. I think you stepped out on the batter box. going to lean in there. That's what we try to do, Patrick. We try to lean in to your electric broadcasting. We like to lean in with you as well out there in Alicia. Make sure you jump in. I'm sure you are in marijuana.

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