Will Cain Country - Journalism or Political Propaganda? Jim Acosta Sparks Outrage Over AI "Interview" (ft. David Marcus)

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

Story #1: Will and The Crew open with a round of Quick Takes as the Department Of Justice launches a grand jury into the origins of Russiagate, more fallout erupts as Texas Democrats flee the state to block a GOP redistricting plan, an arrest is made in the bizarre WNBA “marital aid” saga, and the "King of Late Night" Greg Gutfeld is set to appear on 'The Tonight Show,' prompting a meltdown from the Left.  Story #2: FOX News Columnist, David Marcus joins Will to discuss Jim Acosta’s AI-generated interview with a Parkland school shooting victim. Is this journalism or grotesque exploitation? Marcus also breaks down the growing crisis of homelessness in American cities and argues that it’s time to reconsider involuntary commitment for the mentally ill, and makes the case for restoring everything canceled in 2020, letting Americans decide what stays and what goes. Story #3: Micah Parsons wants out of Dallas. Will and The Crew debate what one of the league’s best pass rushers is actually worth. Should the Cowboys trade him and what could they get in return?  Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Russia Gate Grand Jury. Texas Democrats flee to Illinois. Arrest has been made in the great caper of a marital aid thrown on the court at the WNBA. Quick takes. Two, Jim Acosta interviews an AI, long time gone, victim of a mass school shooting. Break that, abhorrence, down with David Marcus. And three, what would you give for Micah Parsons? What's he worth in a trade away from the Dallas Cowboys?

It is Will Kane Country streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern Time. Always available if you're listening on Terrestrial Radio or streaming it live on your phone or computer by heading over to Apple or Spotify and subscribing so that you can get this. One hour of entertainment on demand. Tinfoil Pat, two a days, Dan, joining me here today in the country. We've asked you about Jim Acosta, former CNN reporter. Now, on Substack, did something that no one has yet done.

With a serious face in some level of urgency, he interviewed a young man who died many years ago in a mass shooting in Florida. How did he do so? He did so through the technology of artificial intelligence. He asked him sincere questions. He got this AI image to answer questions about gun control. And he did this all, again, with the costume and cape of a journalist. We've asked you what you think about this from Jim Acosta, and this is what you have said over on YouTube.

Lady Echo says perhaps if he could find a real news story and report it, he wouldn't be, in my opinion, such a loser. And then Dave McCauley says 100% agree with you. Virginia Jane says there should always be a notation, always a copyright sort of indication for an AI product. and then Anna Espinoza says he's playing with fire and he's going to get burnt. Keep your comments in, keep firing away, keep contributing as a member of the Willis. We're going to break this down in a little bit with Fox News Digital columnist David Marcus. I'll give you my opinion and some of my history and understanding of exactly the kind of creature you're dealing with when it comes to Jim Acosta. But we want to get started today with some of the biggest stories in the news,

and that means we get started today with quick takes. This is going to be great, Will. I'll tell you, we already have some big news coming out of after yesterday on the Will Kane show. It was announced that the DOJ under Pam Bondi, Attorney General Pam Bondi, is launching a grand jury into the origins of Rushagate, which we covered yesterday with Miranda divine. And this comes after D&I, Tulsi Gabbard, had made a criminal referral. Jonathan Turley was on The Will Keene Show yesterday, and he says that this is the first real step toward accountability. Listen. And I don't think this is an excuse for cynicism, but I do believe

it's a reason for continued skepticism. But there is still hope here. This is the first necessary step to finding out about the real Russian conspiracy. There never was a Russian collusion conspiracy. That was hatched by the Clinton campaign. They secretly funded the Steele dossier. They denied that to the media. And they laid out this very successful political hit job using the media, using the government. You've been very critical of the fact that maybe this isn't, this is a nothing burger again, but I don't know, I'm starting to feel like maybe there's a little hope that somebody's going to be held accountable. What do you think? I think there's a good and fair amount of skepticism, maybe even cynicism from everybody

watching and listening that we've been led down various rabbit holes from various congressional oversight committees to different ways we could costume up something. in the mask of an investigation, all of which usually leads to nowhere and ends up with nothing. And it's tempting to once again say, there is just no way, even with an order. For the impanlement of a grand jury, that we're ever going to see accountability, much less an arrest, of Hillary Clinton. But it does seem to be that we're further along on this path than we have been in almost every other instance. a grand jury can come back with an indictment, leading us to four questions. Who, what, when, where?

Who? The names currently being suggested are names like John Brennan and James Comey, Jim Clapper, and maybe Hillary Rodham Clinton. By all accounts, Barack Obama for his participation in the Russia conspiracy hoax, the attempt to tie Donald Trump and the two. 2016 election back to Russia would enjoy presidential immunity, something that we saw play out and established within the past year when it comes to Donald Trump. But the rest of those names, I do think we should be paying attention.

Can we see accountability for Hillary Clinton? What? What potential charges could we see? Well, as I talked about with Buck Sexton yesterday, my friend and former CIA analyst and current host of the Clayton, Travis and Buck Sexton show, the federal criminal code is literally unquantifiable. If I stacked the federal criminal code on this desk, it would cover up my face and head from the cameras. It would spill out over the edge of the desk. It's literally unquantifiable. They've been paneled congressional committees to try to quantify and maybe even edit down

the number of laws in the federal criminal code. So surely somewhere inside those, volumes they can find a charge for the people that conspired against the United States of America. And it's inspired many people to use words like a soft coup and treason. It looks like that could be perjury, lying to a federal law enforcement officer. But many other potential charges. When this could take months. A grand jury could play out over the next one, two months. And then for anything beyond the grand jury, including arrest and trial, you're talking about.

years. Where? According to this letter, this order from Attorney General Pambandi, she has required a yet unnamed special prosecutor, federal prosecutor, in a yet unnamed district of that prosecutor's choice to pursue this grand jury. One would certainly hope that doesn't happen in, say, Washington, D.C. That that doesn't happen in New York City. Jurisdiction, a grand jury pool, a jury pool will be incredibly important to any potential accountability in these kinds of cases because they are by their very nature political. So we would hope that when this is all said and done, we can see the where, somewhere much

more sane and with a similar definition as us to justice than Washington, D.C. or New York. Take it away, Tinfoil Pat. Thanks, Will. So there's still more updates in the Texas redistricting showdown. The 50 Democrats who skipped town to avoid the vote are still, I believe, in Illinois. We actually had, you had Ken Paxton on the Will Kane show yesterday. And, you know, civil arrest warrants were issued by the governor to retrieve the lawmakers. And there's also talk of removing them from office.

and this is what Kim Paxson had to say about the plan, they already drafted up. This was an opinion we put together just as an idea a couple of years ago when the Democrats did the same thing during redistricting. It's never been tried. It was a new idea that we came up with

and we'd have to take each Democrat and file likely in their county. So we're talking about 51 different causes of action and we just have to see how the courts would rule. But eventually, I'm guessing this would go to the Texas Supreme Court. And they also, ultimately would make the ruling. And they're obviously a Republican court, all Republican

court. Now, Republicans have traditionally kind of been toothless. These first two stories, are they starting to get a little bit of a backbone? You know, it looks like they might be trying to hold people accountable for their actions. Well, we're going to have to see. I mean, let's put a little bit of a pin in what will happen. And let's just revisit for a moment what has happened. I never want to take for granted that everyone starts a new story on third base. We have to revisit how we got there.

Was it a triple? Was it several walks? Was it an error? How did we go through first and second base? How did we get out of the batters box? Redistricting is a very boring concept that causes your brain to create a white noise sound

and tune out to everyday normal politics. But the United States House of Congress, the members of Congress, of which right now, Republicans maintain a very slim majority, a three-member majority, and it looks like we have a retirement on the way creating potentially just a two-member majority, which matters when you're talking about, for example, can they pass the big, beautiful bill? Well, those districts that make up those congressmen and congresswomen are defined by state

legislators. And in the state of Texas, the state legislators are currently looking at the at redistricting because they control the districts that eventually elect members to the federal government that would create five new Republicans in the United States Congress. President Donald Trump is incredibly excited about this coming out of Texas, plus five if this new map is drawn. What Democrats, in the other hand, are crying authoritarianism. They are crying partisan politics. of course Texas Democrats in order to keep this from going to a vote and this new redistricting from being approved have fled they left Texas they went to Illinois they went to New York depriving the legislature of a quorum the required number of legislators present to take a vote there's something like 150 Texas legislators you got to have a hundred for a quorum more than 50 Democrats fled the state avoiding the ability of what you just are heard from Ken Paxton and Governor Greg Abbott of being arrested. Can't arrest somebody in Illinois with only Texas state troopers.

So how long will they be gone? They did it in 2021. They were gone like 35 days. Who's paying for it? That's a great question. They flew private up to Illinois. How long will they stay? Who's going to pay for their trip? And what's going to happen when they inevitably come back? In 2021, the law that they were trying to deprive a court. Quorum of was eventually passed. It's a lot of pomp and circumstance in theater before that was done. But to the idea that this is somehow partisan politics and authoritarianism, well, it's not unique. The state of California is incredibly gerrymandered, incredibly politically and partisanly drawn up.

Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hochle and New York are suggesting Gavin Newsom in California, Kathy Hockel and New York, are suggesting, well, if Texas does this, we're going to launch the nukes. Wait till you see the map that we draw. But there are already some of the worst states when it comes to gerrymandering. So Texas making itself, let's say, the fourth or fifth most gerrymandered state, somehow gives license to the first and second worst gerrymandered state to go, what do you see what we do now? I mean, you sort of opened Pandora's box,

and now you're mad that everything is flying out. You went to the French laundry restaurant. Now you're mad that everybody else is going to Kudoba? The rules apply to you, but not to everybody else. We've learned that lesson from Gavin Newsom. We'll see what will happen. I don't think we're going to see any arrests, Patrick. I don't know if that makes Republicans toothless, but I'll tell you this.

I do think in due time, you will see Texas plus five in the United States Congress. The Brooklyn brunch crew is losing their mind on this one. This is like a perfect brunch crew talking point. topic, you know what I'm saying? Oh, fascinating to see. Oh, yeah. Well, my guess is

this, along with Jeffrey Epstein, is the primary content driver of CNN and MSNBC at your given moment. So they're going to be very plugged in on those stories. On both of those, I would ask them when you're sitting around having a mimosa, hey, did you care when California drew up a line that's worse

than Texas? 40% of Republicans, 40% of voters in California are Republicans. I believe only about 10 to 15% of their U.S. Congressmen are Republican. So is that not gerrymandered? They didn't care when it was being done in California. And ask them where they were for the past half decade on Jeffrey Epstein. And why now all of a sudden, that's their favorite story. Every lib cares about Jeffrey Epstein. But they didn't in 2019 and 20. Weird. I'll bring it up after the ex Benedict. Looking for that smoking gun. Looking for that smoking gun on Donald Trump.

Well, speaking of accountability, Will, there has been accountability for For the fan who threw the sex toy onto a WMBA court, the first one in Atlanta. He was arrested and charged with his orderly conduct, trespassing, and a decent exposure. And the worst part is, he faces over a year-long ban from watching the WMBA. Oh, no. Worst parts. Terrible. A year-long ban from the Valkyries.

They're going to say year-long in jail. You know, yesterday on the Wilcane show, we came out of the gates with the breaking news that the DOJ had filed for a grand jury on President Trump. That story was owned by David Spunt. David Spunt was probably all over the network from show to show, breaking down the drop on this grand jury investigation from the DOJ. Bill Himmer today is in Israel reporting on some of the aid efforts in Gaza. What's real? What's not? Who's starving? What was fake news reported by the New York Times?

Today, that story is owned by Bill Himmer. I don't yet think this story has received the appropriate amount of coverage it deserves on the Fox News Channel, but might I make a suggestion to the executives that I know enjoy Wilcane country? Nobody's been on top of the travails of the WNBA and the sex toys and marital aides firing and raining down upon their courts more so than tinfoil Patrick. So when you break in to America's newsroom today, you might see what his schedule's like. He's got his lime green shirt on to match the color of the dildo. And he could report on the latest developments when it comes to WNBA sex toys. You've absolutely owned this story, tinfoil. Thank you.

I'm expecting a call from Outkicks soon for an article. They are throwing the book at this kid. What were the charges again? disorderly conduct, indecency exposure, and criminal trespass for allegedly throwing a neon green, also lime green described, sex toy onto the court during a recent WNBA game. I mean, it's hefty. It's like a weapon.

So reports. You know what I'm saying? It's dangerous. Okay. Yeah. It's super dangerous. It's very dangerous. When fired from afar.

Yeah. It's fit. Yeah, I have so many things I want to say about Don't have a lot of jokes channel this particular item the proximity the appropriate distance the perfect analogy of its tactile nature and whether or not it presents I think I'll leave it there. I don't think you need to throw the book at this kid, even though he's been throwing dildos on the court.

But I do think maybe you should do something to stop it, so it's not constantly raining sex toys while girls are trying to play basketball. But we'll see. We'll see if this does it. Is this the end of the tyranny of the lime green marital aids? Tinfoil pat. Is that it, Dan, or do you want to do one more? You're throwing one more quick.

David's ready. All right. David's ready, but we'll be quick. Quick takes, Will. So this is one of the great king of late night, Greg Gutfeld, is going to be joining Jimmy Fallon over at the Tonight Show. And what is likely to be an amazing crossover, crossover like no other. Media critics are already on the left are already blasted. Fallon for platforming Gutfeld.

And if you if you recall, Fallon started the whole Trump derangement syndrome on late night after platforming Donald Trump back in 2016 and tussling his hair. So you know, what do you think about you know, Gutfeld going mainstream?

Yeah, I don't know what I think. I don't know. Here's the question. What is mainstream? Gutfeld already outrates all of these late-night shows. He outrates Colbert, he outrates Kimmel, he outrates Fallon. And yet, these outlets maintain sort of a monopoly on the acceptable definition of mainstream. It's a great opportunity for Greg Gutfeld, and I definitely think that he should do it. But it's a real question of who's doing whom a favor.

I recently had a friend in town. She's on the left. she lives in New York City and she asked me the following question she said to me what comes on after your show and I said the five and she goes no but what's like the name of the show what's it about and I'm like

no that's the name of the show the five it's the highest rated show in cable news and she is on the left and lives in her information bubble and doesn't even know of the five and it just kind of highlights to me the bubbles that people can live in

I would suggest to you right now that if I took a cross section of rural or urban Texas, I think Greg Gutfeld is every bit as well known as Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert. I truly think his star power probably is equal. Jimmy Fallon has a little bit more appeal because he was on Saturday Night Live. And I think that by the way, he is probably also the most appealing of the three. He's got a happiness to him. you know he's got um originally the show that he did before colbert led the charge into partisan comedy was pretty fun they were doing like bits where they were smashing eggs on each other's head and getting celebrities doing there it was a lot like sabado gigante for late night america

it was getting fun but he was getting trounced in the ratings the minute that colbert went fully anti-trump so off runs kimmel off runs fallon it'll be really interesting because it breaks Greg into whatever that other bubble is that keeps the horse blinders on on the highest rated show in late night comedy. Good for Greg. I'd be interesting to see how they interact and how Greg acts

and the reaction of the audience. Not just online, but in studio. What will be the general thought? What will be the mainstream acceptable opinion of seeing Greg Gutfeld? on NBC. All right, that's going to do it for us on quick takes. Let's take a quick break, but when we come back, let's talk about Jim Acosta interviewing an AI, long-gone victim of a mass school shooting, and should we bring back the Washington Redskins? David Marcus next on

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I'm good. Good to see you here today. Rocking your Nottingham Forest Jersey. Not many Fox News hosts are going to be able to spot that. It's well done. You found the one that can spot a Nottingham Forest jersey. Yeah, it's a good job. And it doesn't have the two stars because this is the

1977 jersey, so they hadn't won the two European Cups yet. They were about to. Now, why are you a fan of Nottingham? Brian Clough. He was their coach. He's known as the greatest coach England never had. It's a great movie called the Damned

United about him. And he's just a great character. My favorite Brian Clef quote, he said, I wouldn't say that I'm the best manager in football, but I'm in the top one. And I just think that's a good attitude for life, you know. It reminds me of Senator John Kennedy the other day saying, I'm not going to say he's the dumbest man in the world, but he better hope the dumbest man in the world doesn't die. We can do math. Either way, I saw a damn job. I saw a damn job. United. It's a damn good movie. Isn't it? Yeah. Cool me. He's great in it. I think of Brian,

I think of him as leads. I forgot that he was nodding him, but I like that you have, I mean, I'm a glory hound, I'm a big six kind of guy. I'm a Manchester City fan, so good on you for going as a deep cut. That's how I read you anyway, David. Like, you would never be

the guy that likes, you know, top 40 pop music. You're the guy that's got some garage band in Brooklyn you've been listening to since 1978. Several. You don't want to hear about Green Day. You're like, I liked Green Day before they were Green Day.

Right. No, I'll tell you a soccer jersey story, though. I was in Tel Aviv. And to your point, when I travel abroad, I like to buy a soccer jersey from the place that I'm at. I wanted to get the Israel jersey, but they didn't have one. So I'm at the Adidas store, and I knew Maccabee Haifa as like the Yankees. And so I didn't want that.

So I'm going through. I find this jersey. It's a Tel Aviv team. It's red. I'm like, okay, this is cool. Get back to the hotel, put it on. I'm walking down the beach. People are staring at me, like, really giving me these nasty looks.

And I'm like, what's going on? So I take my phone out. I Google the team. It's Hopal-L Tel Aviv, which is the pro-Hamas, pro-antifa communist soccer team. And I'm just walking around. I just got back, I took it off. I had no idea. I wear it in West Virginia.

Nobody knows. But, yeah, man. it was weird you should have you should have googled that before the purchase now i know i do find that fascinating i do find that fascinating about soccer we've talked about it with the guys here on the show how they're not just teams it's not like being a fan of the dallas cowboys or the denver broncos you're signing up for history and in many cases you're signing up for politics like you like lazio in rome that means something versus you liking roma and it means something about your politics same thing with rial madrid and barcelona

you know, those are more popular globally franchises that you can get the casual fan that just likes, you know, Messi versus Ronaldo. But it means something in Spain about your politics. And I think that's fascinating to research and understand. And even though I don't want the world to be political, and I think sports is a great outlet for a non-political angle to culture, there's part of me that also kind of just likes deeper meaning to fandom. Yeah. Although I think we maybe dodged a bullet with our sports teams, not having those kinds of political affiliations probably just because of the way that the leagues grew up. And I think you might even say the bottom line in American sports leagues was always money, right?

Like for the league itself. And for the fan, it was allegiance to place. Right. So, and even though we have New York where you might have two teams, right? And even Philly had two baseball teams back in the day, right? The A's were there. We didn't have situations like London or Buenos Aires where there's nine teams. And I think that fed into it as well where, you know, who you supported out of nine teams would more likely have a political meaning to it.

But I'm glad we don't have it. You know, I have plenty of reasons to hate the Cowboys without, you know, politics being involved. That's a good story, though, about you buying the pro Hamas jersey and walking down a beach in Israel. All right. A little more, but only slightly more, socially acceptable, might be what Jim Acosta has just done at his new substack. He has interviewed Joaquin Oliver, who died in the Parkland school

shooting. How did he do so? He did so with AI. Watch. I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence. Great question. I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health

support, and community engagement. We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard. It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea, Joaquin. All right. Let's start here, David, before we dive in. Man, it's getting really good. It is really incredible what AI is doing and can do and will do.

And still so far, still so much in its infancy. And, you know, you could see it in that clip. I think you can tell that as AI, but you have to really kind of look like it's in the eyes. There's something in the face is honestly not quite alive. You can see it on Instagram if you ever go to your search. And for some reason, I don't know why, but you'd be getting pictures of Instagram models. You can see which ones are AI and which ones are real. But we're getting there fast, David. Yeah, I'm deeply troubled by a lot of things.

lot of aspects of AI, even though I don't believe it's real or possible. I don't think the concept of a machine that thinks in the way that a human being thinks is possible at all. It reminds me very much of the biblical story of the Library of Babel. And in both cases, I think that a lot of the results could be, you know, kind of negative. My big fear regarding AI in this stuff is that the big tech guys are going to try to convince us that they've, created reality or they've created actual thinking, not by raising machines to the level of human thought, but by lowering what we think human thought is

to the level of what machines are capable of doing. And this was, you know, when Pope Leo got, was elected, the very first column I wrote about him, I said his biggest challenge is going to be AI. Because in a kind of epistemological way, it challenges our deepest connection to what you say reality, right, the unalive nature of these things that we're interacting with, almost like golems, right? So that's, that's scary stuff.

But I think even just on a more basic journalistic level, this makes no sense to me. I mean, my first thought when I saw this was like, oh, this is great, let's make an AI of JFK and ask him if you saw anything on the grassy knoll. Right? I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't even, it brings nothing but emotional manipulation. So I can't understand why this would be. remotely purposeful or useful for any journalist other than to try to, again, emotionally manipulate people. Totally agree.

I mean, we should say Jim Acosta wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. I mean, this was something that he did, acknowledging to his audience that this is what he is doing. But what is the point, as you, as you highlight, what is the point? What is journalistic about interviewing an AI, not just character, but an AI victim of a mass shooting who then is going to forward opinions that that kid did not have, or if he did have, is most likely unknown to us. Maybe his parents said, these are the kind of thoughts that Joaquin was saying before he was lost. But it's not real. People change.

People evolve. People think. People experience. and you've created this falsehood. And I just, I think it's incredibly gross, incredibly gross from Jim McCoss. It's frightening. No surprise, by the way, David, no surprise. You know.

No, and it's everywhere. I'll tell you this. Teenagers having relationships with chat GPT, man. It's creepy. Well, okay, I want to come to that in a second. What I was going to say is, I've heard through the media lunchroom counter gossip. Jim Acosta will do whatever he needs to do for relevance and fame. So in a way, he's AI. In a way, he's not a real person. He'll be the most anti-Trump guy if the climate

from 2015 to 2024 is that the most anti-Trump guy gets the most airtime on CNN, gets the most fame. But if the climate changes, and he needs to be someone else, in order to maintain airtime and relevance, he'll be that. And here today, now that he's on his own, he's got to find the most radical or innovative or grotesque thing to do to maintain that airtime and that relevance. I guess I kind of sit here and think, you know, in the end, and he is, Jim Acosta is AI. I take your point because AI, when you think about AI, it's like, okay, you're going to put an input in and you're going to have no control over what happens in the black box and what comes out is going to be what comes out. And that is how a lot of the leftist media operates.

My current favorite one is like everything that's happening in the world, from Russiagate to Sidney-Sweeney to, you know, whatever it is, the leftist media has convinced themselves this is all just to distract from Epstein, right? Like, you know, the Phillies game is to distract from Epstein. And they just made this up in their head. And now they say it as if it's an established fact. It's very, very strange. Yeah, I think the prompt on Jim Acosta is, the AI prompt is, keep me in the conversation, what should I put on my substack?

That is the AI prompt. And by the way, you know, we've had this conversation on several occasions. I wouldn't be surprised. Watch. I wouldn't be surprised if, for example, Acosta becomes someone who is willing to be more open to Donald Trump. If the culture and the conversation continues to move in that direction and the line of CNN late night and MSNBC continues to fractionalize itself into a small minority, that won't be the path to relevance. So watch a guy like Acosta move in the direction of saying something, you're like, wow. And then we'll be tempted on Fox to play it like we've done with Bill Marr, go, wow, even Jim Acosta.

But I'm pretty skeptical, David. I always want to be somebody who's open to people changing their mind. But, you know, we've seen a host of characters lose their position on mainstream outlets like Chris Cuomo, who now all of a sudden is willing to admit, I was wrong. I was wrong about everything. That's a clip that's going around right now. and it's an interesting admission from Quist Cromo. But it's hard to separate that from what a lot of people are doing once they no longer work for the corporation.

Is it because they no longer have to appease their bosses? Or more cynically, they're sitting there going, what plays and what keeps me relevant? I mean, I look at it a little less cynically, I think, than you do. Maybe it's just my rosy optimistic nature. But, so for example, like, it's Terry Moran, right? Like, he's, he's one of these guys who's sort of exiled from ABC and now he's doing his thing. And he, I don't know if it was a substract. It was something I saw Mark Halperin shared yesterday the day before where he is doing some soul searching, right?

And he's writing in his thing like, you know, there's ideas out in this country that aren't being represented because those voices aren't in the newsroom. And for me, and in particular for the style of journalism that I do, you know, there's. do, that is something that I like to hear, right? And I'm glad, you know, whether they're going to change or not, I'm glad that that's at least a part of the conversation because it's true. And it's actually a little worse because the people from the rest of the country who end up in the newsrooms in New York and D.C., they are the people who left because they don't particularly like where they came from. So it's almost a double wham. It's like it's not just you're not being represented. It's your being represented by the people who go to brunch in Brooklyn and tell

horror stories about their horrible hometown in Oklahoma. That's exactly right. And how backwards and racist. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, you have the people that grew up in the bubble and really only have exposure to that New York, D.C., Los Angeles world, or you have the people that have come from my world, come from your world, who for some reason feel jilted by it or hate it in some way, and then move off to New York or D.C. and then report on it in a negative fashion. What you're talking about is Terry Moran recently said that the newsrooms, he said something that we all know.

The newsrooms have no viewpoint diversity whatsoever. And when they try to get newspoint diversity and go out into the world like you do, David Marcus, they do it almost anthropologically, like going to the zoo. And he said something like, you can see a tiger in a zoo, but it's not the same thing. It's a version of a tiger. And that's exactly what they do. They'll go back to Oklahoma and then treat everyone there as though, you know, they're talking about their roof being blown off by the tornado in every occasion. You know, it's that same sort of leering, almost mocking, but more condescending view of America.

Yeah, and not understanding what makes those places tick. You know, I put an interesting poll up on X recently where I asked people how often in a given month, do you bump into someone at the grocery store who you knew when you were in high school? And I mean, basically everyone said zero, right? But there were a few people who were like two or three times, right? Because when you live in a town that's 20, 30, 40,000 people, you do see that. And there is this level of connection that I think the urban newsrooms don't have a real sense of, especially since like, and I hadn't really thought of this before, but like,

cities don't have them the way they used to when i was growing up in philly our neighborhoods were very distinct and you knew what they meant and that you represented them and even that in cities like philly and new york like those are all in flux and changing and and that sense of of being rooted to land is not something that people in in new york newsrooms have a good understanding of all right one more thing on this ai i hear how skeptical you are of it and and i appreciate that because like you said this interview that was done by Acosta really is of no value other than emotional manipulation. But the guys on the show were talking with me on the phone this morning and they were like, Will, think about how many thousands of hours of content you have publicly available and digitized.

And with the furtherance of AI, like my sons or my grandchildren could theoretically have full access to that, not to watch, but had it synthesized and rebroadcast back. to them in a tailored fashion. So in other words, I wonder what my dad would say to this. And there will be some AI version that analyzes all my opinions that I've put out for decades and be able to synthesize some type of perhaps likely opinion that I would have given to them in any given situation. And that's kind of interesting, David.

And I said in return, you know what, though, it won't only be a public figure like me with all of this content. Because as we have like meta glasses and everything else recording our every thought our every vision, social media, you'd kind of be able to do that with anybody. You'd be able to go back and say, I wonder what my grandfather would have done in this situation. And you'll get some AI kickback,

perhaps a hologram, perhaps some humanoid version of it that's going to tell you. And I think that's one of the things that occurs to me in looking at this interview with Acosta. Yeah, I find that, I find that entire idea absolutely horrifying. I just, to me, again,

like, it is replacing something that is real and that is true with something that feels real and feels true but isn't. And the more that we let ourselves do that, I mean, look, man, I mean, that's like literally what Satan does, right? This is why we say the prayer to St. Michael to defend us from these things that appear real, but actually aren't. With regard to what you're talking about, though, about this mass of, you know, all of our lives, there's all this data, there's all this stuff.

It always reminds me. There's a wonderful short story by Jorge Luis Borges called the Library of Babel. And in it, he imagines a library, there's a language, 25 letters, two exclamation or two punctuation marks. And in this library is every possible combination of these letters that could ever exist. So there is a book with the true account of your death. There's also a book, there's also infinite books almost of false accounts, right? Everything that could be expressed is in this library. The question is, how do you get to it? The question is, how do you find it?

And you can't destroy anything, because if you destroy one book, there's an exact copy of it that's only different by one letter. And Borges, it's worth reading. It's short. Borges sort of explores this. And ultimately, it still has to come down to human beings making choices. We'll be right back on Will Kane Country. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy host of the Trey Gatty podcast.

I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com from the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world. It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at Fox Newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. Welcome back to Will Kane Country. It is going to be absolutely fascinating. I don't think it just feels true. The only thing we're going to have to count for is there is some probability that it is also true because it is, algorithmically based on things that you have said in the past.

And so it would have some, while it cannot be absolutely true, it would have some measure of probability that the real person would have given that similar advice or feedback. And that's going to be very, very complicated. David Marcus has two columns up at foxnews.com that have caught my attention, one of which we spoke about last week on the Will Cain Show. David wrote about the homeless situation on the streets across America, cities like Austin or Seattle, but not just those.

New York. Everywhere across America, you've seen this rising tide of homelessness, and it's really awful. And David, you and I spoke about the fact that very, very few of this rising population of homeless are what exists in our mind about homelessness. I think what exists in our mind, what exists in a child's mind, is someone who's fallen on hard times, a mom and her kids, or a guy without work, who has fallen on hard times. And very few people actually fit that profile. The vast majority of make up one of other two categories, and that is drug addicts and people who have mental illness, who in a prior generation or in prior decades, might have been institutionalized, might have had lived in, in short, what we used to call an insane

asylum. But instead, today, they're all living on our streets. And David has been to these streets. He's talked to these people. And you've brought back the idea, maybe we need to consider, right, David, these are outdoor insane asylums. And maybe it's more humane to go back to what we had in the 1950s. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the point that I really tried to make in the column and that I think Trump's executive order hits is that the status quo is so incredibly awful that we need to change what we're doing. And we can't just leave these people on the streets. You know, I described a little on the show, like, when you physically go to these places, it's just so, it's horrifying. And what we're doing now isn't working, and Will, it's not because we're not spending money on it, right?

Gavin Newsom spent $20 billion to not fix the homeless problem in California. Bill de Blasio, when he was mayor of New York, gave, put his wife in charge of something called Thrive, NYC that got a billion dollars, 200 million of which are just gone, right? nobody knows where it went. And clearly, the problem has not been significantly helped in spite of that billion dollars. So we need buy-in from the entire industry that exists to help the homeless to move this out, again, of these open-air institutions into a place where people can get much more guided treatment. Now, the challenge, though, David, and I do have some personal experience with this in my life is that the people that would need to be in these types of institutions don't want to be in these types of institutions. So what you'd be in talking about is involuntary commitment.

And we did away with that largely in most states across this country some half a century ago. And there's horror stories to be told about why that happened. It's husbands having wives committed. It's homosexuals against their will being committed. It was whatever manner at the time that medical doctors were willing to diagnose as a mental illness could get someone involuntary committed to one of these facilities and they made movies about it like Jack Nicholson and one flew over the cuckoo's nest and then in many cases they talked about the horrible things that happen inside these institutions so I don't think any freedom-loving American loves the idea of someone in their family

or someone who has the power over them to take away their freedom and then commit them to an institution But we can simply look at the stats, and they're quite obvious. The correlation is almost spot on. Decline of the institutions, the rise in homelessness. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I mean, we can't be paralyzed by the past, right? This happens to us on sort of like issue after issue. It's not 1950, right?

We're not going to send people to insane asylums for being gay. And we can't be handcuffed by the foolishness and bigotry of 75 or 100 years ago when we're implementing policies to help people today. We do this around questions of race as well, where like we just sort of pretend that nothing has changed since Jim Crow when it's obviously abject nonsense, right? And so I think we need to sort of disabuse ourselves of the idea that the institution can only look like one flew over the cuckoo's nest, which is probably an outlier, like even at its own time. This is a basic function of government, right? Like, I'm reading a history of London right now. And in like 1137, when it's starting to really become a big city,

they created a mental asylum because they had to because you can't have crazy people roaming the streets. I mean, they understood this in the Middle Ages. And as you say, up until about 50 years ago, we made the wrong choice and we should go back. Yeah, I think that's fair. And I'm sure there is some policy. I'd like to think there is some policy where we would be able to craft protections for some people's freedom while saving some people from these situations they have on the streets. I mentioned that David has two columns up. The other one that caught my attention is more recent, and that is that David makes the argument that we should not only bring back the Washington Redskins, something that President Trump has suggested and pushed towards, but that we should revisit everything that we canceled in 2020. And the line, as you talked about in your column, of bringing back Confederate monuments, and so forth, including the monument of Abraham Lincoln,

freeing the slaves that stood in Boston. The line that caught my attention, David, was bring them back and then we can have an open and honest debate about what should and should not be celebrated, embraced, or remembered. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, just on the record, I've always been against taking down the Confederate statues from the very beginning. I wouldn't say Trump was against it,

but go back to 2018, and there were really two arguments. One was Trump and one was the argument that I had. In 2018, when they started taking down the Confederate statues, Donald Trump said, well, I can kind of understand this, but Jefferson owned slaves. So are we going to start taking down statues of Thomas Jefferson? And MSNBC and everybody said, that's ridiculous.

Of course, that would never happen. It took two years, well. And in 2020, they took down a statue of Thomas Jefferson in New York City Hall. So that's all it took was two years. So that's a slippery slope argument. To me, the more compelling argument is 75 years ago, these people who came before us created a piece of public art because this is what they decided to be remembered for. In the case of that statue in Boston, it was literally freed slaves who paid for it, but a bunch of wokesters in 2020 were like, eh, we don't like the design.

We're going to take down the statue that was paid for by the freed slaves, right? So like the Taliban, we're making this decision, not just for ourselves, but for the rest of human history, nobody gets to see this. the Teddy Roosevelt statue in New York City. Nobody gets to see the Lincoln statue in Boston. To me, that is intergalactic hubris and not something we should ever get involved in. What do you think that debate looks like, though? There's that conversation that you suggest we could have about what we do or do not. And there's even a conversation about what is the purpose of a statue or anything. Is it to remember? Is it to honor? Is it to celebrate? I just can't imagine what that public conversation would be like on every single one of these statutes or team

names or flags? Yeah, I mean, look, I would be open to the cons. In fact, years ago, I wrote when this was all going on in 2020, I wrote a column in the Post in regard to New York Post in regard to the Teddy Roosevelt statute where I said, have a referendum, right? If this statute is such a big problem and everybody's offended and they don't want to see it, put it on the ballot, right? They won't do that because that's not who's making these decisions. These decisions are being made by little city council appointed committees of far left academics. And so it's not reflective of what the average person thinks. Polling never supported taking down the Confederate statues. Polling never supported changing the name of the Washington Redskins. It was just a bunch of, you know,

cultural elites who decided that they didn't like it. That's a good point. I would love to see a popular vote on. Honestly, I'd like to see a popular vote on each and every one of these controversial statutes. Good news, but good news today will. Just if I can say, there was reporting today that the National Park Service is restoring the statute of Confederate General Albert Pike in D.C., which was torn down by vandals. So that's a win, right? I mean, the stuff that got torn down by vandals, that should be a no-brainer. That has to go back up. So this is a win. This is a really positive thing to see. The story of America. All right, before we go, let's go over to the Willisians.

has the following to say here. Marlene says Will's face looks much more natural on YouTube than the Fox clip. Too much makeup there. Well, thank you, Marlene. It's true I'm not wearing any makeup here on Will Kane country. I don't think I wear a lot over on the TV show. I would tell you, everyone that accuses me of dyeing my hair or whatever it may be with my face or makeup, I will tell you, never, never underestimate the power of lighting. I'm telling you I've learned this lighting changes everything Remember that by the way when you're taking a selfie

Basic Bob says Strange hand movements are distracting Yes I know basic Bob I know And in Sunshine Motto says if they can bring the victim back with AI Then bring back the founding fathers To explain the Second Amendment

Shall not be infringed Well that's pretty interesting Although I wouldn't trust it David I wouldn't trust the AI version Yeah I wouldn't trust an AI version of James Madison or Alexander Hamilton or any of the authors of the Federalist papers because, remember, it's only a synthesis of the consensus. So whoever's putting together the AI could really manipulate those founding fathers to make it say whatever they want. They would start singing numbers from the musical.

That's right. The next thing you know, it would be Lynn Manuel Miranda's version of Alexander Hamilton that gets you your opinion. on the real Hamilton. Check out David Marcus' columns at foxnews.com. We've covered two of them here today because they are excellent, and I don't think you should miss them over at foxnews.com. Thank you, David.

Thanks, well, and Michael Parsons going to look great and green. It's really going to bring his eyes out. He was always an Eagles fan. Tell you what, we're going to talk about that. Let's keep that going. We are going to talk about Michael Parsons. Where could he be traded? What is he worth?

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I know, and it's not just theoretical for you, Louise, and I'm sorry for your loss. It's theoretical for me and it's hard to put myself in that position. Losing a child has got to be the most devastating thing to happen. And I do believe, I don't know. And I think, you know, I give you all the credit in the world. You have to be an absolute rock. I don't know how strong I'd be. I don't know how much it would crush me.

My suspicion is to the core. And I don't know what weakness I would give into. I truly don't. That's just me trying to be as self-aware and as honest as possible. And if I had the option, I don't know, man. I don't know. It reminds me of that show we've been talking about from time to time, severance. And I feel like I saw another movie or show recently about losing.

a child and this idea that you can stay in that place, but then you never move forward. I'd be so tempted to stay in that place, and AI is going to make it so easy to never move forward. And then Judy in Arizona says, maybe you should create an AI photo of Jim Acosta leaving his job. Well, that's easy. I think you can do that with chat GPT premium, which I don't pay for, but everyone else seems to be turning out those images on a moment's notice. What's the most hipster thing you do. Two days Dan says liking soccer is the most left-coded thing, the most hipster thing in my life. And I do love me some soccer. Love me some soccer. But I also said, you know, Dan, I do wear vans. And on top of that, I've even got some slip-on vans. And that's

sort of my, you know, neighborhood shoe. You know, when you're taking a dog for a walk, it's just so easy to slip on. And they're not expensive. And I don't care if it's dog steps on them with muddy paws and all those things. So, like, that's, that's been my, you catch me in the neighborhood, I'm probably wearing some slip-on vans. So which is more lefty, soccer or the slip-on vans? See, the problem with vans is now they've gone very mainstream, so it's not as hipster of you these days.

You know what I'm saying? Back of the day, yeah. But now they're a little more mainstream, so you're within the zeitgeist and not technically hipster. So soccer, I would say, is more hipster. You think, you think vans are. more mainstream than soccer. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I think you could be, you could be right. Yeah. What's the most left-coded thing that you do, tinfoil? I know. I know what it is. I collect vials. It's what kind of vinyl it is as your hipster.

We'll see. He likes punk music. That's hipster. Yeah. That's very left-coded. So that's, uh, I think you're right. Band. Streetlight Manifesto?

Yeah. Yep. Love them. Never heard of this. Hold on. This is definitely, this is definitely, uh... I would have said his tight haircut back in the day. Death Cap for Cutie, dude, now you're going to Emo.

Now you're in my world, buddy. I got Big Steve. I would have guessed music. Yeah. He's going to go through his whole collection, by the way. I've heard of Death Cap for Q'd be. duty. I've heard of that one. Last one, tinfoil. What we got here? You want one more? No, we're good. I knew it was your music. I know. I'm trying to think of

mine besides. No, that's not the question for you. I know. The question for you is what is the most right-coated thing that you're doing your life? Probably owning cowboy boots. Everything about you is left-coated hipster. Owning cowboy boots is probably no cowboy boots. Married. I don't think so. You guys have culturally appropriated the cowboy boots up in Brooklyn. I think that that's not going to count. What did you say, Timfoil? It's getting married. Getting married is the most right-coded thing that he's done. Man, how liberal of me to get married. Ugh. Just one. No, right-coded. Right. Conservative. Sorry. All right. We'd love to hear from you, by the way. Drop into the comments. And by the way, I know

many of you watching and listening are on the left. So just be honest, be self-aware. What's the most right-coded thing that you do? For many of you who are consolators, I'd be very interested. Just step back, self-aware. You like it. You put it in your earbuds. You put it on your fashion.

Maybe it's in your diet. You know, the kind of food you choose to eat. Be honest. I like to shoot guns once in a while. In your world, the most hipster. There you go. That's good, two days. All right, Micah Parsons has demanded a trade from the Dowell

Dallas Cowboys. Michael Parsons, by most rational and fair individuals, a top three. I think that's very fair. Top three pass rusher in the NFL. Demands a trade in a three-page notes app post last Friday from the Dallas Cowboys. He's super mad. He's very upset with the way that Jerry Jones handles the Jones family has handled his contract negotiations, and he says he no longer wants to be a Dallas Cowboy. Now, before we get into our question of the day, is what is he worth? What's he worth in a trade? What's he worth in a contract? Let me just say, he's not going to look good in green. Sorry, David Marcus. He's going to be a Dallas Cowboy, at least for the foreseeable future, which means at least one year, most likely two years and potentially three

years. Why? He's scheduled to make $24 million this year. He's not sitting out. Nobody gives up on checks worth $24 million. Nobody. Then he could be franchised. by the Dallas Cowboys, once again making him a ton of money, essentially keeping him against his will with the Cowboys, and he can be franchised a second time. Then he would be really expensive, but the Cowboys could keep him under control for those three years. And this is par for the course.

I don't think Jerry Jones lost a minute of sleep over that Micah Parsons post. Not a minute. By the way, I'm not simply pro-ownership and pro-management on this. I think you should be treating your talent and he is a very unique and high quality talent you should be treating them in a way that makes them feel wanted and Jerry Jones does weird stuff

like denigrating him in some ways he did it to Dak Prescott he even did it with C.D. Lamb and now he's doing it with Michael Parsons and he does it. It's what he does. And there is zero doubt that Jerry believes there is no such thing as bad publicity. Keep Stephen A. talking about the California. on first take. Keep it going. Keep it on every sports show. The longer it goes, the better.

And the deal will go down at some point. And I'm not even going to tell you it's going to work in the Jones favor. I'm not sure all the deals that they hold out on end up. In fact, I'm pretty sure they don't end up that great for the cowboys. But Micah Parsons will be a cowboy. Go ahead, tinfoil. So I agree with you that you should take care of your talent and make them feel appreciated. But at what point do owners need to step in and go, why am I paying $45 million a year for an edge rusher? Like, they just keep ratcheting up the costs of different positions. Like, I mean, just a few years ago, it was crazy that somebody was making $30 million a year playing quarterback. And now we're paying those guys $50, $60 million a year.

Yep. And receivers are getting $30 million. and pass rushers are getting into 40 million range. You're absolutely right. But the NFL salary cap does continue to go up. I mean, it is the most valuable, what? Franchise and entertainment? Yeah, the most valuable franchise and entertainment.

Like all of our eyeballs, millions and millions of eyeballs throughout the season, it's a cash cow, and those salaries are going to continue to go up. Ratings justify it. Attention justifies it. Profits justify it. There is a salary cap. I don't even know where we are right now, Patrick, on the salary cap. But that money's going to go to about, really you're looking at three main positions

with a fourth that is clearly in fourth place. That money is going to go to quarterbacks, defensive ends, wide receivers, and then corner and offensive tackle, those two, are going to get big money. But outside of that, you know, I think if you're running, NFL team, I do think you invest in those premium positions. I do. And then you have to ask yourself some real hard questions about where everywhere else you spend the money. And Micah is a difference maker. Now, I'd be the first tell you, there have been playoff games. You're like, where is my guy? Where is my top three pass rusher? You know? But if the quarterback is the most valuable position

on the field, you need the guy who negates that the best of his capabilities. And that's a pass rusher. And one of the three best is Micah Parsons. Go ahead, Tinfoil. The current salary cap is $279.5 million for this season. So just shy of $300 million. So you're looking at 15% of your cap, roughly, going to a guy who's a top three pass rusher in the league. You know, I mean, 15% is a lot for one player. And the quarterback, by the way, is probably eating up at this point. What is it?

25 to 30% of the cap on many of these teams so you're going to get it eaten up here's my question let's just say the Cowboys and Jay Jones decided what you decided well 45 is too much for one player is not a quarterback no matter who he is what do you think you could get

like if you offered Michael Parsons up in a trade right your team two a days the Green Bay Packers never really gets involved in the these kind of things. So it would be totally unprecedented. And your team, Patrick, is just not good enough, like not knocking on the door enough to say to themselves that you're a player like this away. But if the Packers, if the Packers of the Jaguars were in on it, how about this? What would you be willing to give up? And I'm going to say you, as a Cowboys

fan, this is where I start. Two first round picks and then something else. Whatever that's something else is, like a player on the roster that is equivalent to maybe a third round pick. I think two ones and a three roughly is the asking price. And that might be low. I'm actually sitting there going, I don't even know then if that's enough. You take those picks and that $40 million, you invest it back into your team. Is that better than what you get from Michael Parsons? Would you do that deal two days? I think I would. I mean, if you're, Michael Parsons, like you said, is special. I'm doing the deal. I would bring it back, yeah.

I have to say so. Would you do it for the Jags, Patrick? I was actually going to say, like, you know, it would be two firsts and maybe that third or fourth round. I would definitely do it. I mean, at that rate, I think, yeah, it'd be crazy to not get more than that. And then you have to pay him that money, by the way.

You've got to pay him that $45 million. We don't have much else, so. I would Yeah So I need to up the asking price But that's why I said That's a starting point I don't think you're going to get three ones

I don't know who There's not many players Like you're starting quarterback stuff then But that's the whole point This is probably possibly The after quarterback You're talking about And by the way

Who are we talking about TJ Watt Michael Parsons Who am I missing on the defensive end? I know I'm missing some guys, but who's even in the running for the best defense of end? Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. Yeah, Miles Garrett, yeah.

Miles Garrett Miles. You know, the other guy. It is two first names. It is two first names. Miles Garrett. T.J. Watt, and then I think that he's in the top three. I mean, you could probably interchange him with Watt. Yeah.

It depends on which list you're looking at. I think that's right. Joey Bosa? He'll be a cowboy. No. Nick Bosa? Not. Too injured.

I think both of them haven't been, Nick is, where is, where is Nick now? Isn't he no longer a charger? He's in Buffalo. Aiden Hutchinson. He's like yesterday he was in, but he's coming off a catastrophic injury, right? and yeah but I mean he's up there Nick Bosa by the way it seems like yesterday he was in the conversation for Best Defensive Inn

and now he's a Buffalo Bill I mean just all of a sudden No fratting Michael Parsons will be a cowboy All right How do you code what is the thing you do eat Listen to in your life that is most coded left Drop into the comments section let's see if we can get some good ones And maybe bring that back tomorrow right here on Wilkins

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