Will Cain Country - Justice Barrett Torches Justice Jackson in Supreme Court Showdown (ft. Karol Markowicz)

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Story #1: Will breaks down the mean, biting language coming out of the Supreme Court between Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Kentanji Brown Jackson during last week’s Supreme Court wins for President Donald Trump. It's not the kind of thing you'd usually hear from the highest court in the land!  Story #2: The Host of the ‘Karol Markowicz Show,' Karol Markowicz, joins Will to dissect the rise in radical rhetoric from the Left with Democratic New York City Mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani and singer Bob Vylan, former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's struggle with the black vote, and Joy Reid's claim that neither Vice President J.D. Vance nor Secretary Marco Rubio will inherit the MAGA mantle.  Story #3: What are the Top 100 movies of the 21st Century? Will and The Crew debate which movie gets the top spot. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to 'Will Cain Country' on YouTube here: Watch Will Cain Country! Follow Will on X: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One mean, just biting language coming from the United States Supreme Court between the justices. Amy Coney Barrett versus Cantanji Brown Jackson. Not the kind of thing you normally hear from a Supreme Court justice, not in writing, not in words. The end result is a huge. win for President Donald Trump. Two, Pete Buttigieg polls at about 0% with black voters. But Joy Reid says Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance won't inherit the mantle of MAGA. With the New York Posts, Carol Markowitz, three, top 100 movies of the 21st century.

What is at the top of your list? In this country, streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and the Fox News Facebook page, terrestrial radio, three dozen markets across the great United States of America, but always on demand by subscribing at Apple or on Spotify. Jump into the comment section on Facebook. Jump into the comment section on YouTube. end of the show, we'll also call you a member of the Wallitia. Fellows, Tinfoil, two a day, we do have some certified members, growing members of the Wallitia that we discovered last week. I think it's fair to say that, and I don't think I'm betraying confidences to reveal that

among the members of the Wallitia, we can count those that ride Air Force. one. Wow. We can count the president of the United States. That's pretty crazy. Last week on the Will Cane show I was talking about the Alcatraz

Island migrant facility, illegal immigrant detention facility in Florida. Middle of the Everglades, guards, fences, and in 30 miles of swamp and alligators. President Donald Trump is scheduled to visit this week

what they're calling alligator alcatraz and talking about it last week on the Will Kinchot, I said, reminds me of a scene from a movie. I just can't remember the movie. Something in the scene was to the effect of if you can get past the guards, if you can get past the walls, then you only have to contend with the miles and miles of jungle and deadly animals between you and freedom.

And I couldn't remember the name of the name of the world. movie. By the end of the Will Kane show, I looked at my phone and I had a text message that read as following. Will, the movie you're thinking of is Papillon, starring Steve McQueen. Great movie. Your favorite president, Donald J. Trump. I didn't believe it at first. I didn't. Not only is he watching, but he's leaving a comment. He's interacting with the show. I think that makes him. He's in the chat. I think that makes him. He's in the chat. I think that that makes him a member of the Willisha. He's right, by the way. The movie that was in my head was Papillon. I'm going to admit something to you that I would not admit to the presence of the United States. I've never seen it with Steve McQueen. But I did see the remake recently with Charlie Hunnan, the star of Sons of Anarchy. He redid the movie. It's a really good movie. Even in the remake, I'm sure anybody that's a big fan of Steve McQueen will tell me it's a horrible remake of Papillon. But since I don't have any context of the first version from the 1970s. This one I thought was pretty good. It's a French guy that gets sent to prison

on an island off the coast of Guyana, French Guiana, and it's about the escape attempts. And I do believe it's also based upon a true story. It's based upon the real life of a guy from Paris who had multiple escape attempts, whose nickname because of a butterfly tattoo was Papillon. And I would encourage everyone to watch that movie. I think as would member of the Willisha your favorite president, Donald J. Trump, POTUS, watching, jumping into the chat from Air Force One. I spent the weekend, fellas, in Seattle, youth soccer tournament this weekend. I only got to make it for one game.

I have my duties. I have my job. Tournament that lasted well over like five, six, seven days. My wife and son were up there. I joined them over the weekend. I have two quick observations. Seattle and the surrounding area. liberal land like there's a reason this was the chop autonomous zone famous from 2020 it is

worn on its sleeve the politics of the northwest everywhere you go in seattle my second observation is it's absolutely beautiful and can be in places really cool went to pike's place place you know seafood fish market that was really fun to see walked around a little bit but even more so than that you know the soccer tournament was in some of the suburbs of Seattle Redmond Washington and you're playing soccer with like fields and fields some massive tournament 64 teams in the tournament

in the valley of mountains you know you surround it on both sides by mountains it's green huge pine trees perfect temperature 70 degrees. I mean, it's really nice up there in the Northwest, which I'd only ever been to once before, in and out, really. And this trip is somewhat in and out,

only there for what it was, a day and a half, less than two days. But they got something going up there. Unfortunately, part of what they've got going is the people and the politics. It's the only problem. Of Seattle. They do have some beautiful

areas in some of these liberal areas. I submit to you, Colorado, New Mexico, Washington, California. But they do their best. They do their best to make it ugly. They do their best to make unlivable. That's why you move to someplace. It's 100 degrees for about 100 days in the summer with flat topography. That's why they move to Texas. All right, let's get to it now with story number one. On Friday, the Supreme Court of the United States released opinions, one of which represented a huge victory for President Donald Trump. That was limiting the scope of nationwide injunctions handed down by federal district judges.

There are something like 385 federal district judges across this great United States of America. And through Donald Trump's first 100 days, had issued dozens of universal nationwide injunctions, much more than Joe Biden, much more than Barack Obama, much more than George W. Bush. Historical, really, in their subversion of the agenda of President Donald J. Trump. But according to the Supreme Court of the United States, they have overstepped their bounds. Injunctions will be limited to the parties before the court.

They will not apply to the nation at large. Of course, you can have class action lawsuits that apply to a larger body of parties. But as would be expected, the parties to a case should be the ones affected by an injunction in the case. Not everybody in the country, putting the judicial on the same level as the executive. Justice Amy Coney-Barratt wrote the majority opinion for this case. and in it she took on not just the idea of district judges limiting the president of the United States, but other justices on the Supreme Court who wrote in the dissent that this represented tyranny by the executive. Justice Andy Coney-Barrant, wrote this instead represents, should it go the way of the dissent, tyranny by the judicial.

The dissent was written by Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson, and ACB wrote, the following when it comes to that dissent. We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. She's writing she doesn't need to take the time to even give the dissent much of an argument based upon the merits that on its face, it flies in the face of two centuries worth of precedent and the Constitution. Justice Jackson skips over the part because analysis, analyzing the governing statutes

involve boring legalese, imputing Jackson's ability to actually do the job of United States Supreme Court justice. Jackson writes on and on in colloquial language, never engaging really on the merits of constitutional law, precedent, statutory law, or as ACB writes, boring, Legalees. Instead, Jackson's dissent brings in, well, modern catchphrases, like the following. Take a look at what she wrote here. I quote from the dissent. Instead, to the majority, the power-hungry actors are, ellipses, parentheses, wait for it, ellipses, the district court. She weaves in, like a 14-year-old girl. Wait, for it into a Supreme Court

opinion. Also she writes actually for that to happen the courts must have the power to order everyone including the executive to follow the law dash full stop everyone must follow the law

full stop. Again writing as though she is Gen Z on TikTok not a justice of the Supreme Court of the United States engaging in arguments on the merits, because, as ACB describes, that would be boring legalese. This is actually pretty stunning writing on both behalf.

You know, I went to law school back in the late 90s, and law school really is three years of reading Supreme Court opinions. That's what you do. You learn statutory law. You memorize certain elements of the Constitution and statutes, but really what you're doing is reading the opinions of Supreme Court justices who are interpreting the Constitution, interpreting those statutes.

You get used to seeing who is a lucid writer and who is not a lucid writer, whose opinions are coherent. What I mean by that is the quality of their rationale, their thoughts, and whose are not. Whose brain is tangled in a web of contradictions.

And I mean that. You can read an opinion, but that doesn't make sense compared to the first part. And that doesn't reconcile with another opinion I wrote. And that doesn't even make any sense. I don't understand how he's connecting these sentences together, much less these thoughts. I'm telling you, you can read this.

It's one of the most instructive things in learning about the United States Supreme Court, less, left, right, more, honestly, logical, illogical. It's a reverse engineer, honestly, how I ended up where I am, basically, in my politics. I didn't read Supreme Court justices as a conservative. I became a conservative by reading Supreme Court justices and understanding the Constitution. It honestly really is as simple as understanding who can see that 2 plus 2 equals 4

or who can twist themselves into arguments that 2 plus 2 can actually equal 5 in some instances. And I mean that. That is basically what this boils down to when you're reading these opinions. And you'll see complete, coherent, rational thought from justices

like Justice Clarence Thomas and then you can take those with complete rational thought who can actually also be entertaining writers like the best of all time Justice Antonin Scalia and then you can look and read justices like Stephen Breyer and come away going I don't know what I think

or David Souter going I don't even know what he thinks or Ruth Bader Ginsburg I know she had an outcome, and she wanted a right to get to that outcome. Treating the job like everyone else in politics, like politics. But you rarely see something as juvenile as what you see here by Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson. You'll see a chart, by the way, of justices who have spoken during oral arguments, their first eight cases at the Supreme Court. The least is like Clarence Thomas.

He spoke 96 words in oral arguments. The most is, by a long shot, Contagy Brown Jackson, with something like over 3,000 words. She's followed by Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. And again, I saw the comments when I saw this posted on social media, and people point to this as like, Justice Thomas mailing it in, or you don't have to speak when your decision's already bought.

And it just represents a place that we are in society. it's like he speaks little but writes very lucid he has a coherent philosophy but doesn't feel the need to peacock it from the stand during oral arguments he famously doesn't see the value in oral arguments where the opposite is a justice like contadji brown jackson who speaks a lot and writes incoherently this is shocking not just from her behalf but also amy connie Barrett, who's just absolutely saying everything I'm saying, just a little more esteemed. A little more hidden, but still very obvious with how little she thinks of her fellow justice on Supreme Court of the United States. The end result, though, is a massive win for

President Donald Trump. No more nationwide injunctions. How does that apply, for example, to one of the biggest cases, potentially before the Supreme Court, birthright citizenship? Well, they avoided that on its merits. They didn't decide whether or not it's constitutional. but they will have to soon. It'll come back. And with no nationwide injunction, we're going to find out if you are born in the United States, but subject to the jurisdiction of another country,

are you born with the citizenship to the United States? For now, huge win for President Donald Trump. All right, let's get to whether or not Pete Buttigieg can win black voters, whether Zoran Mamdani can win mayor of New York City, and whether or not he can condemn Globalize the Intifada. Next on Wilcane Country.

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Chuck Todd has diagnosed what is left for the Democrat Party. Who's left? Who is this odd collection of Bernie Sanders and AOC, of Chuck Schumer and Rahm Emanuel, of Gavin Newsom and Zohram-Mam Dhani? What is it that ties these people together? Democrats. Here's Chuck Todd. Is the Democratic Party a left-of-center party? I think you've just hit the, I think this is the identity crisis that they have.

I think it's just a collection of people that don't like Trump right now, right? And that's, that's served them well in 20. But imagine trying to create a big tent that had AOC and John Kasich in it, right? You know, or how about, or Liz Cheney and AOC? You're sort of going to rip a hole in the middle, right, as you're trying to stretch that tent. He's right. Even if he's late, a doctor that comes in after a patient is dead and everybody looks at the table and he goes, I think this patient has died.

Thank you, Dr. Todd. You're right. You're just a little late to the diagnosis. It's a collection of people that hate Donald Trump. Carol Markowitz doesn't hate Donald Trump. She is the host of the Carol Markowitz show and co-host of Norfolk. normally two podcasts you should get and subscribe. She's also the co-author of Stolen Youth, how radicals are erasing innocence and indoctrinating a generation. She's also a columnist book at Fox News

and at The New York Post. Hey, Carol. Hi, Will. Thanks for having me. Chuck Todd is right, don't you think? There's no way to explain any ideological cohesion for the left. There's nothing left for the party that we call Democrats. It really is only defined by a collection of people that hate Donald Trump. That's right. It's been like this for a while. I mean, at least since 2016, since he came down the escalator, they united around that message. But the problem is, while most of the party has been focused on that, the left wing of the party has been pushing it further and further to the left and trying to implement actual socialist policies. We see it with the excitement over Zoran Mamdani

in New York City. Other Democrats are saying, how can we manufacture this ourselves? What can we do? And the answer seems to be adopt his really far-left policies. So they're in a bit of a jam if Americans come to understand what they really stand for. The concern, of course, is if you get very charismatic people, they might move Americans to the left. Let's talk for a moment then about Zoran Mamdani. The man who has won the Democratic primary for mayor of New York City. He still has some race left to run when it comes, when it comes to becoming the mayor of New York. He's going to have to run again against Andrew Cuomo, Eric Adams, and we'll see if New York City is ready to adopt this kind of rhetoric,

these kind of policies, this level of socialism. But it's important that everybody listening and watching also know who we're talking about when it comes to Zoranamandani. So he is a self-avowed Democrat Socialist. And as an example of his, how far left he actually is. Here he is saying, really, he doesn't believe there should be such a thing as billionaires. Watch. You are a self-described democratic socialist.

Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist? I don't think that we should have billionaires, because frankly, it is so much money in a moment of such inequality, and ultimately, what we need more of is equality across our city and across our state and across our country, and I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires,

to make a city that is fairer for all of them. It'll be interesting to see Carol what he does or proposes to get rid of the concept of billionaire. So he's talked about taxing people. He's talked about different levels of taxation for rich white people. He's even invoked race into how he would treat people differently

as mayor of New York City. But he's not just Bernie Sanders. Maybe he's a little more akin to AOC because he's a mix of, of socialism and racialism, identity politics in a way that wasn't done by Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders is more of an old school communist, like just on class lines. And he's doing something interesting that is maybe more of a TikTok socialist, where he's doing both race and economics, all mixed together into one message.

Look, the thing about billionaires is nobody has more power of movement than they do. Why would any billionaire stay in New York City while this guy says that he wants to get rid of them. And, you know, my favorite billionaire, Cliff Asness, he's on X. He posts really funny stuff. He posted Mullen Labay, like, come and get me, basically. The idea of getting rid of billionaires, you're going to just move them to other states. It's not going to be a case where these people are just going to take it from this guy that they're going to live in New York and just have to get rid of most of their money because he says so. The issue of equality, he's not trying to raise anybody up. He's trying to pull people down. And that's ultimately what happens with

communism. These people never get to rise. The quality that they talk about, everybody being equal and equity and all of that, it always means dragging people down. I hope New Yorkers will say no to this. If they don't, they will lose another tax base. They've already lost over the last five years, billions and billions of dollars. I imagine that they're going to just continue to lose the very, very wealthy. Let's try to make sense of this guy for just one moment, because there's a sense that he is, if not the future for Democrats, he represents a wing of the future for Democrats to embrace this kind of far-left socialism. But there's also a conversation about how authentic he is, Carol, like, you know, what is his story? He's a Muslim. He's a Democrat socialist. He's an immigrant. He's a lot of things.

but we only know these things because that's also who he presents to us and he at different times presents different people to us and that came up I think to his face about him like changing accents depending on who he's talking to we've had this conversation right when it comes to Kamala Harris even Joe Biden code talking code switching you know to different audiences

but here's what mom downy had to say about his variety of accents on the subject of trust you've adopted different speaking accents in different scenarios but they go to their local bodega is there one that's real and one that's affected what i would say is as any immigrant knows having been born in compala uganda and then raised in south africa and moving here when i'm seven years old is there different parts of my life world wide toy is a world white toy is a world wide toy is a world wide all right he's got several he does like carroll that was an indian accent style you heard there from him on a couple of those or Pakistani type of accent.

He also does an African accent at some stops. He's done an African-American versus African accent. And you could hear in that interview, he just does kind of a generic American accent as well. And he kind of open to, I guess, you know, he kind of says, yeah, that's what I do, depending on who I'm talking to. That's ridiculous.

It's so inauthentic. Look, I also, I'm an immigrant. I also grew up in Brooklyn. I could also copy a variety of different dialects. You don't do it because it's not real. I'm sure you could do a variety of different accents. You lived in New York City. You live in Texas.

You can manage any of those. But how come you don't switch between them? How can you, you know, how come you don't just adapt them whenever you need to? It's just, it's fake. And that's the thing is that all of these people, AOC, pretending to be from the Bronx, and she's really from Westchester, it's always the most privileged people that end up being this fake socialist thing and they push other people into it. I think people fall for the act. And that's what it is. It's an act. He's able to act in different ways to appeal to different

audiences, but it's still just an act. I'm going to make a counterargument. Do you remember the scene in the big short when Steve Carell and his team are being pitched a series of credit default swaps to short the American housing market? And they don't know why this is being pitched. It's so counterintuitive, but the guy pitching it to him is Ryan Gosling. and he is a very much like finance bro but acts like he's above finance bros he's got fashion friends he's really he's pretty funny he's actually the comedic relief character of the movie and they're all supposed to be these big cynics and they step out and they go why are you listening to this guy he's everything we hate and Steve Corel goes yeah but he's so

blatant in his self-interest that it almost makes him endearing and I I wonder, to your point, could I do an accent? Yeah, poorly. I've tried to do accents here on the show. I'm not good at it. And we should challenge you to some of your accents you can do growing up in Brooklyn. But the point is everybody does accents, everybody, you know, whether or not it's with your friends or by yourself, everyone driving in the car. You have an accent you can do.

I don't care which one it is. You can do Jamaican you have fun with. You have an Indian one you do if you want to. Maybe you have fun with that one. but every single person listening, I am confident, does an accident. And then you're like, am I supposed to do it? Am I not supposed to do it? Is that cultural appropriation?

Am I mocking it? What am I doing? You know, do I do it in public? This is an entire exercise that everyone does that when we hear comedians do it, we feel cathartically released. And that's why we laugh. I'm going to argue to you that Moam Zoron Mamdani doing this and owning it in that way could almost become appealing in it.

it's so inauthentic that it becomes authentic. There's something to this where I'm like, if there were a politician willing to go in front of different audiences and do accents like this, not in a Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, faky style, but in a, yeah, I'm doing it because that's how we all talk here together. I don't know. There's a chance it could come off as endearing.

I hear you, but the thing is that we have Donald Trump as president right now, and the thing that makes him so endearing, I think, is that he's never anything but himself. He is always Donald Trump. He's never putting on an act. He's never putting on some sort of face. He's like, I like my gold toilets, and I don't care what you think about that. He's very much real.

And I think we're in a moment where that kind of authenticity really appeals to people. Can people buy an act? Of course. Of course they can. But I don't know. I see it as we're in a very real moment because of Donald Trump, and I just don't see this kind of thing, people falling for this kind of thing. that's the thing i don't think you're falling for it if it's willingly going along with it yeah yeah i think you're willingly going along with the blatant inauthentity i don't know i think

there's a there's a trick in here a psychological trick that could be pulled off um mom donnie has declined on a more serious note to um to condemn i think was the word that that was asked uh the slogan globalized the antifada um i want to ask you about that. And I also want to ask you about this. This was from Glastonbury over the weekend, which is a music festival. And it is a singer that goes by the name Bob Villain. And he was on stage. It was aired by the BBC. And here's what he chanted. Free, free, free, free! All right, but have you heard this one, though? Death, death, death to the IDF, death, death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF.

All right. I think these two are actually connected, Carol. It's pretty shocking. Let's take a moment, though, and just go, wow. It's pretty shocking that that's at a music festival that's aired by the BBC. By the way, for those that don't know, IDF stands for Israeli Defense Forces. So, first, let me just ask you what you think about both. Both, Mamdani, not condemning globalized the antifada and hearing this from Bob Villain on the stage aired by the BBC. I know people think that this is about Jews, and I want everybody to understand that Globalize the Intifada is not about Jews. It is about bringing the struggle to American streets. It's about making sure that Americans feel pain, and that's really the overall goal. When they're driving a car into a crowd, into a Christmas market, it's not about, oh, which one of these people is Jewish. It's about hurting Westerners, it's about bringing down Western culture. That's globalizing the Intifada.

The, you know, kill the IDF. It's the only reason that he's using IDF is because if he said kill the Jews, it wouldn't be quite as probably getting some trouble in Britain. He might still get into trouble for even saying kill the IDF because Britain has pretty strict speech laws. It's scary that this is being normalized and that Mamdani, who wants to lead, you know, America's top. City, I would say, is fully on board with this, and there's barely any pushback from any

Democrats. And they're all lining up to support him. The Chuck Schumers of the world and the Bill Clintons are all saying he's our guy because they're on the same team. This is someone who wants to bring down our country. And that's what, you know, globalized intifada means. I want people to really understand that. We'll be right back on Will Cain Country. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America. discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding. It's only a three-hour show.

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Welcome back to Will Kane Country. I actually totally agree. I didn't know where you were going at first with that. Well, for what it's worth, we should all, we should mention, Carol, you're Jewish. You come at it from this perspective. Yeah, I think this conversation is being made too simplistic when sometimes it's more complicated. And then, but the end of that complication, it's simplistic in a different direction. And it doesn't, so, okay, the way this conversation happens, I feel like publicly, Carol, is it's shocking examples of anti-Semitism.

That's the way this conversation is largely conducted publicly. And that's not wrong, but it's not all right either, right? I guess that's how I feel. It's like, it's, okay, let's take them one at a time. Bob Villain, death to the IDF. Okay, well, IDF. Yeah, villain. That's what I said, villain, yeah.

Death to the IDF. Okay, I hear you. He didn't say, you know, death to Jews because, that would probably actually cause some kind of crime in Britain. Also, it doesn't rhyme, by the way. But I think this one's harder for me, Carol, because the IDF is a military. It's not an ethnic group, right?

So am I supposed to carry that over to what he says this, but he really means this? And I think that I do think there has been an over on, people have carried criticism of Israel into hatred of Jews. And I don't think that's fair. I think there is criticism of Israel out there that people believe, right, that has no connection to how they feel about Jews. Now, I can't speak to Bob Villain. Now, this is where it gets complicated. There are some people who criticize Israel who do hate Jews. And there are some people who would chant death, the IDF, who do mean Jews. He may mean it, like, I hate this military. I don't know

Bob Villain, but I'm saying a person could say that without meaning I hate Jewish people, right? And so that's where, like, I think this gets messy and it's not clean enough on that part of the conversation, sticking with this before I go back to the Globalized Intifada. The hard thing is, if you told me, if you told me Will, I've heard other stuff by Bob Villain and no, he definitely hates Jewish people. I'd be like, I believe you. Like, let me hear that. It wouldn't shock me.

Yeah. You know what's interesting is that, yes, you could, you can absolutely. criticize Israel, hate the Israeli government, and not hate Jews. I find that that doesn't happen that often, but okay, when you hear somebody say, kill the U.S. military, kill the Royal Air Force, do you think to yourself, oh, but they don't hate all Americans, they just hate just our military? Or do they mean that they hate the military that protects the rights and the people of this country? Because when you say, you know, kill U.S. Marines, to me, that means kill Americans.

I don't see them as something separate from the rest of us. I see them as part of us. But Carol, do you think there's not a gradation that also deserves at least some weight in this conversation as well? I hear you. I hate the IDF. Well, then you're saying, if somebody says, I hate the United States military, they're saying I hate the Americans, right?

I hate the IDF. I hate Israelis. But there's still another step between Israelis and Jews, even though whatever percentage of Israelis are. Jews, it's a political body versus a religious body. Yeah, it's sort of tough because we are people also where, you know, when I'm an American first, but when Israelis are harmed, I understand that they're being harmed kind of in my name. They're being harmed because I'm not there and I'm not part of it, but they're being harmed because of who they are. They're being harmed

because they exist in the Middle East. Like, it's not that people hate Israel and they'll be fine with a lot of Jews living in the Middle East, not in a country called Israel. They would not be fine with that. And they weren't fine with that before Israel existed. There were frequent murders and terrorist attacks on Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine. So it's not like they're like, oh, we just don't want the country of Israel to exist.

No, they don't want Jews to exist in Israel at all, in the Middle East at all. And, you know, the IDF is there to say, that's too bad. That's your problem. And we're not going to let, you know, anything happen to these people. All right. So on that part of this, you know, I may be being too, I appreciate precision of language. And I interpret things as precision of language. There can be people that hide things in semantics.

But I do think that the only way we can truly communicate is to listen to one another's words and then do our best. I mean, the whole world is in this game of like, let me peer into your real motivations here. And I think that that's more dangerous than listening to someone's words. But I could also be giving him too much grace, you know. You are, but that's okay. That's, you know, I like that about you. I'm not. But no, Carol, but I'm not actually because I don't care about Bob Villain.

I don't even know Bob Villain, right? And I'm not, I have no grace for this person. I just have grace for precision of language on the conversation. do I think it like I said if you told me he actually means this will and I can prove it to you I wouldn't be shocked right the question is no the follow-up thing is is that I don't know anything about Bob villain either but I would not be surprised that someone who hates Israel for example also hates America they often go hand in hand it is a an attack on Western culture it's an attack that's where I want to go that's all these things that's where I loved what you had to say

always that's what I love and agree 100% with what you had to say is that's what I love and agree 100% with what you had to say. Not just America, by the way, Western civilization, right? So, because here's Bob Villan in a separate part of that concert. Watch this. Heard you on your country back. Shut the fuck up. Heard you on your country back. Uh-uh, you can't have that. The only place I know stolen right under my nose by ignorance stop. Trying to lay claim to a line that ain't there's anyway. Wait, what did you say? All right, so the lyrics there are, so you want your country back.

Wow, you can't have it. But shut the F up. I think at one point he says standing on stolen ground or something like that, that kind of thing. It's the trite, it's the trite, anti-colonial, oppressor oppressed, I'm taking your country from you right now. I hate Western civilization. I'm taking it away. That's clearly who this guy is, right? And I think that is the revealing truth under all of this. Yeah. I went to Glastonbury in the 90s. The talent was a little bit better than this. This is like really rock bottom. What is it? Is it like Woodstock? It is. I also went to Woodstock 94. I like that kind of thing when I was young and free.

But, you know, that's the thing is that these people, it's the leftism. I say this a lot because, look, Jews are very worried in America, and I'm not going to lie to you. It is a concerning time for us. But every time that anybody says, oh, America is bad for Jews or America is doing this for, you know, doing bad things to Jews, I'm always very quick to be like, it's not America. It's the leftist hellholes of America. It's these little leftist enclaves that are causing these problems. for Jews. It's leftism in action. And the same thing with this Bob Villain guy. It's all

around leftism. Does he hate Jews? I don't know. All I know is that he hates civilization as we have it. And it's sort of tough to watch people defend this kind of thing. But this is where we are. And we do need to defend our civilization. It's important. It's the best one that's ever been. So we want to take this full circle now because who is Bob villain? Even though there's like thousands of people there with him chanting what he's saying. Zoran Mamdani is the Democratic primary candidate for mayor of New York City, and he's the one that refuses to condemn globalize the intifada. And he says in his answers, by the way, when pressed on that, I've heard from my Jewish friends or something like that, my Jewish constituents,

how hurtful that can be. But he goes on to not condemn it. Okay. So maybe he's, we can't say whether or not he's an anti-Semite or not, but I think what he's given us plenty of evidence of right there is, combined with all of his other opinions, like Bob Villain, he hates Western civilization and what it has built. And while his vision may not be, I don't know, it could be Islamism, but he openly says it's socialism, right, which is a weird combo, like which one is it? You know, I go to a pride event or I'm an Islamist, you know, what is that? They don't exactly go hand in hand.

But my point is, the globalized the intifada is dangerous to all of America, to your original point, not just or necessarily Jews, it is, and people are going to have debates about what that mean, globalized the antifada, and they're going to be those very firm believers, it always means anti-Semitism, and maybe it does. I don't know. But one thing I can be sure of is it means what you just laid out, anti-Western civilization. Exactly. And they say it. Mamdani is not hiding it. He's asked on a Sunday show whether he approves capitalism, and he says no. Again, he's, he's an immigrant here? How do you come to a capitalist country and say, I want to bring down the system? I want to get rid of this system. It's really telling that they have no problem

admitting this kind of thing, that they want to change our civilization. Again, the best country that's ever been not even close, and they want to change the way that we live and the way that we've succeeded here. It's wild and telling to me. Okay, now let's take this truly full circle back to where we began when we talked about Chuck Todd and what is left for Democrats now. So I wanted to show you this polling that came out and I believe, let's put this up on the screen two a days because I can't remember the polling company that put

this out, but it showed Democrat candidates for president. Buda Judge leads overall, take a look to a days while we're talking so I can tell the audience who put this poll out. You are tinfoil, see if you can find that. Buda Judge is at 16%, Carol. Kamala Harris is at 13%, Gavin Newsom at 12%, AOC at 7%.

But then it breaks it down by white, black, and Hispanic, which is pretty fascinating. This is according to Emerson, the polling. Buttigieg, 0% among black voters. Zero percent. Harris, 30%, right? By the way, AOC, not real high with black voters either, at only 4%. She is higher with Latino voters, as is Gavin Newsom, by the way, which may be showing what

he's doing in California, this grandstanding against ICE. I don't know if that's working or not. I don't know what that is. But it's pretty fascinating that Buddha, judge is a big fat zero with black voters. Yeah, I think you or I could do better with black voters in the Democratic primary than he's doing. It's really pretty interesting that he is seen as just this square white guy. And I think that that is an image he's trying to challenge. I saw that he followed the UFC today and that, you know, he's trying to be more of a bro and that kind of thing.

but ultimately he's been a really ineffective transportation secretary he was the mayor of a small you know south bend indiana and he's not really a national figure he's trying to change that obviously i think Gavin Newsom and aOC are going to be kind of the ones to watch in the next round just because they do have already this base of support and Gavin Newsom while i see him as you know i think Dave Rubin coined him like a lizard person i really do see that he's going to take off that mask in any moment, there's going to be a lizard underneath. He's still very popular and he is able to deliver a message and he goes into conservative bases and he makes the arguments and he's really going to be a tougher nut to crack, I think, for the right than they think right now.

But I think there's another element to this Buttigieg thing, okay? And that's the fact that he's gay. Right. Right. That black voters have not shown an openness on that issue and that has been reflected on various election cycles on various opportunities and issues. For example, in California, when they were voting on propositions to legalize or to do away with gay marriage before the Supreme Court took this off the electoral table, you could see voting black voters did not support gay marriage. And now you have an openly gay man with, you know, paternity leave and taking those pictures from Zbed.

And I'm not sitting here telling you what you should believe, whoever's listening or watching. I'm telling you what the evidence suggests black voters. think or believe about this issue, and that's pretty indicting right there, a 0% for Buttigieg. Yeah, absolutely. The average black voter is fairly conservative. That they remain tied to the Democratic Party is something of a mystery, and they really do fit in a lot of ways better with Republicans, but they've traditionally voted for Democrats, and it's very hard to break through on that.

I think that there's a lot of, like, if you get off of that reservation, you're, you know, you're kind of shun. I've heard this from black friends who are conservative that they get a lot of abuse from the black community because of that. And it's tough, but eventually you have to do what's best for yourself. And I would hope that the average black voter who is more conservative would look at Republicans

as a possible destination when Democrats inevitably force them out. All right. Then finally, Joy Reid was talking about the opposite sides which we're talking about the future. Rubio and Vance. And here's her prediction on whether or not they will step into the role of Donald Trump after Donald Trump. Listen to Joy Reid.

Marker Rubio believes in nothing. He's been a Catholic. He's been a Mormon. He's been an evangelical. He's whatever religion works for him in the moment. And he's also whatever ideology works for him in the moment. He's been a Bush-style Republican. He's been a supposed Tea Partyer, which is the opposite of a Bush-style Republican.

He's been for Ukraine. He doesn't give a crap about Ukraine. He's been hard on Russia. He doesn't care if Russia is dominating the earth. He doesn't believe in anything. thought Donald Trump was a small penis weakling and now he thinks Donald Trump is God.

Marker Rubio believes in nothing but he doesn't even have the intellectual heft of a Ted Cruz who's barely got any. He's got less so he couldn't even be president. Oh man that's super indicting and she was uglier about

Donald Trump saying when he goes off to hell to meet the devil that it won't be Vance either was her prediction but that was pretty scathing about Marco Rubio. I mean, Joy Reid doesn't like him. Oh, okay. Like, you know, so suddenly I feel a lot better about him. I think that to be fair, that's what I actually think what you just heard from Joy Reed, let's say it was Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance up on stage against each other running for President of the United States. Yeah. That what you just heard would be an argument made by J.D.

Vance. Well, and then Marco Rubio would say that J.D. Vance, you know, basically called Donald Trump Hitler in 2016. And they could just go on like that for a. while. I think you're also forgetting somebody else in the administration who could possibly be running for president. Your buddy Pete Hexeth, I think, would be a fantastic candidate. I am not just saying that. He has been stellar. I have never felt better about supporting him during the difficult times in the beginning. I think he's been just unbelievable. And look, I think if those three guys are three of the candidates in the next election, then the Republicans will finally have an embarrassment of riches to choose from.

Those are really strong candidates. Will they tear into each other? Of course they will. So what? John Adams and Thomas Jefferson basically called each other's child molesters, and then they were writing them to each other letters on their deathbeds, talking about the amazing friendship that they had. It's politics.

If you get into this game, you have to understand that there's going to be some tough hits. Got to learn to live with it. Sorry, Joy. All right. What a great conversation, Carol. I think everybody should expect if you go listen to the Carol Markowitz show you're going to continue to get great insight and conversations

like that or the show Sheho co-host normally as well check them both out. Apple, Spotify. Where else, Carol? Everywhere. Anywhere you get your podcasts. Thank you, Will. Okay. Thank you, Carol. We'll see you next time. Again, make sure you check out Carol's shows there.

Oh, I meant to ask Carol this. Last week, New York Times came out with their top 100 movies of the 21st century. that's since the year 2000. I'll tell you who number one is. When we come back from the break, I want you to think about your number one. I'll give you mine.

We'll see if or where it ranks in the top 100. Coming up on Will King Country. This is Jason Chaffetz from the Jason in the House podcast. Join me every Monday to dive deeper into the latest political headlines and chat with remarkable guests listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts i'm janestine join me every sunday as i focus on stories of hope and people who are truly rays of sunshine in their community and across the world listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com

21st century, I want to be clear, 21st century. I feel like everybody jumps in and goes, Will, what about Tombstone? Not post-2000. It is Will. It is Will Kane Country streaming live at foxnews.com on the Fox News YouTube page. All right, top 100 movies, according to the New York Times, in the 21st century. Tenfoil Pat, two days, Dan. This will be interesting. This will be interesting to see what you guys select.

So if I asked you guys your favorite movie, oh, this is good. one guy who's a total hipster who will pick something like i don't even know probably actually closer to some of my taste in movies you don't know me like you're probably a west anderson fan you know that's insulting i'm a west anderson fan so um and then you got another guy who i don't even know where he'll go what would you say then like tinful pat i think he likes to go so like something that's not up there you know what I mean like it wouldn't be on even the top hundred list no not at all really yeah I like West Anderson I like you know independent movies I'm really into independent movies movies that are a little bit

different you know but you're also a Marvel kind of guy too no I hate Marvel no I hate franchises like end game is number one I hate franchises I'm anti franchise how dare you you're anti-franchise wow i hate franchise this except for like look lord of the rings is great but it's those are three movies about you know the book series so like can i tell you guys something i talked about this last week in buck sexton nominate one of the lord of the rings i'm gonna tell everybody this i'm get lord of the rings i'm not that into it at all so i don't like fantasy not that kind of fantasy

I don't like you know elves and magic and wizards that's why when I liked Game of Thrones it was a testament in my mind to how good it was because it takes a lot

to get me over a dragon like you put a dragon in there and I'm like out you don't know they weren't real but if I'm in if I'm in and you've got a dragon now you've got something really good going on so i love game of thrones and lord of the rings is in that silly fantasy like when i say silly like it takes itself so seriously about its hobbits and its elves and i have to match it seriousness yeah i don't match it and so therefore but here's what

i'm saying enough people think it's great that maybe i need to go back also they're so long the movies are so long and the battles go on forever like just forever these battles not long enough some some might say that was my critique and it's super it's super dark is my memory too like literally like somebody lighten up the screen I can't tell what's going on so do I need to give it another shot do is it a trilogy don't need to go back and watch all then there's the habit movies there's three habit movies and see like the only It's a Power series. Don't do that.

I don't think if you're out on fantasy like that, I don't think watching it again will bring you back. I don't think there's any chance. But I like Game of Thrones. Yeah, that's a way different. Maybe I missed it. Game of Thrones, besides some of the magic element, it's more about, like, people and human interaction. And it could be seen as medieval. You know what I mean?

Like, it could be real. Yes. Take away the dragons. Take away some of the magic and all that stuff. It's about human nature. essentially so it's not as much fantasy and he made it more that's right dan grimy than it than lord of the rings he kind of took what lord of rings did and made it more like geopolitical and you know took all these weird historical events that that kind of did happen in real life

and transformed them in his world um and he also had and that's what i liked about it so right you know that's what i like that doesn't have um okay I'm still intrigued because you guys all put it up there so high. But that would not make mine. It did make this list of New York Times top 100 movies. I can't remember where it came down. I'm scrolling in, down. But here is your, I'll give you your top five.

How about that? According to New York Times. Of movies since the year 2000. Tell me if you've seen this. Any of these. Moonlight. See it? Pretty good.

It's a very heart-wrenching story. know about it can i tell you i know about it sure like all i know is gay black dude is that what it's about sure if you want to boil it down to just that yeah whatever gay black kid i'm not i'm just telling you that's all i know that's all i know is a very powerful movie about the human experience for that oh wow that's a different way that's a different way to say it um number four in the mood for love never even heard of it it's a is it in english i don't even know it's asian

that's a that's a oh sophia coppola directed it yeah i've never even heard of this movie i think she just said something nice about it oh oh you're right there are a lot of um

movies like asian movies korean movies chinese movies that are very very good that people overlook because of the language barrier. That's true. You remember that movie Everything Everywhere All At Once? Love it. Was that in, that wasn't in English, right?

It was. I saw it. It was mixed. It was? Yeah, yeah. Okay, mixed. Yep. All right.

All right. Then number three, there will be blood, which was great. Top five for me. That fits right there. It's a top fiver? Absolutely. Dude, I will watch that movie over and over again for the rest of my life. what year did that come out that came out

oh seven in oh seven i just want to see because this isn't my top movie but number six on the list came in uh 2007 as well no country for old men and i liked it better than there will be blood and i watched it over and over

yeah so it was a little overshadowed for me number two mulhollen drive i don't think i ever saw it i have a problem with this one so you do Yeah, I liked it a lot, the first time I saw it, but there's a huge twist in the movie. And once you see it once and know the twist,

it's not rewatchable, really. So to be in the top five, you have to be rewatchable. So I don't think it deserves to be there. Okay. So like the sixth sense, you can't watch that again. You can't watch it again. It's great when you watch it the first time, and it's fantastic. But once that's ruined for you, you don't rewatch it,

so that doesn't constitute as a great movie for me. right well i could do it because i never saw it um and then number one is parasite and by the way that that is an asian movie that's not in english i saw it that transcended that one best picture it transcended everything like because of the language i don't think it's the best i mean it was it was good i don't remember it being like this like number one I thought it was fantastic. Did you feel that way? Yeah.

Okay. So a couple of my favorites are on here. Like I said, no country for old men's up there. I love the Royal Ten and Bombs. Speaking of Wes Anderson, it came in number 21. It's the best Wes Anderson movie in my mind by far. Absolutely loved it. I think Gene Hackman should have gotten an Oscar for that movie.

He was so good. Royal Ten Bombs came out I believe in 2001 my dad died that year and I have to tell you in a lot of ways Gene Hackman reminded me in my dad

so it was like super emotional emotional for me in some ways my favorite line for that movie my brothers and I and my sister and my wife

all laugh is the part like the two things remind me and my dad is like what he wanted on his tombstone right

died at sea saving his family from whatever right I could see my dad one but also my favorite line is they're walking in the park

he and his ex-wife and they're talking about how messed up all their kids are and he's like she's like I messed up and he goes no no it's not your fault it's my fault or anyways

it's nobody's fault he accepted responsibility for all of about a second and a half or anyways it's nobody's fault that's a good line okay but my number one

I'll tell you guys ahead of time isn't in the even the top 100, didn't make it. Hips, and I find that incredibly disappointing. So let's go around the horn. I'll go last. Tinfoil, what's the best movie of the 21st century?

I have to say no country for old men is up there for me as number one. Like, I just really enjoy it. I can rewatch it. You know, I just love the Kwon brothers in general. I agreed. Yep. A big Lobowski, I had to double check,

came out in the 90s. So I couldn't put the Big Lobosky in there. Okay. Dan. My number one is Interstellar. Without a doubt. I've seen it a hundred times

and I will watch it a hundred more times. I think it is the best movie. I think that came in like in the 80s or 90s on this list, right? Yep. It is my... It made the top 100, but... Absolute favorite. Has everything.

Gladiator was way too low in this list. I like Interstellar, Dan. but and I have re-watched it it's so complicated I feel like that's the best part like this you could learn new things every time we watch it

that's why that's true like about physics and everything and space time continuums and black holes and all that it's a torrid love story between you know

kids and their and their parent it's crazy yeah well mine's not that I love science but not that complicated I'm not a fan

I love well I love westerns, and the thing that's great about No Country for Old Men is it is a Western, but it's a modern-day Western, and I really like that idea. I love that concept of making modern-day Westerns. Oh, I know yours. You know, from the, what would you say, from like the 1950s through the 1970s, it was really the number one genre, Westerns. Yes. Clint Eastwood and John Wade made their careers. on westerns and you wonder i thought about this like the old west at the point at which they

were making those movies was about 80 to 100 years in the past and it's crazy that it it held that romanticized vision for so long and why and why it doesn't today like westerns do not dominate today right and if i i guess world war two movies are pretty fertile ground for people to make movies now and that's about 80 years in our past by the same token um I mean, there are modern-day westerns that have done well. Django is a version of a modern-day Western, Django and Chain. I don't know what else besides that in no country.

Wind River, really good. Really good movie. I think it's a bit of a modern-day Western. So good. Meena Deadwood. For me, it was a TV show. Yes, but yes, that's not a modern-day Western. I'm modern in its making, but,

not in its setting. What I know is like taking the Western themes, taking the Western themes, the lifestyle, and everything. Like Yellowstone did. Yellowstone's a modern day Western of sorts, right? But as much as we like it, it's not on the level of the things we're talking about here. Landman count? Yeah, I'd call that a modern day Western pretty much.

I mean, certainly any Taylor Sheridan show. No, but Sheridan had a movie. This came out. This is Taylor Sheridan's genre. Yeah. Yeah. He's brought back to modern Western. well you're jumping the gun here patrick oh no okay sorry that is my number one it is hell or high water just ruined it i love it i love it it is a modern-day western it's thematically

first of all i love jeff bridges if jeff bridges is in something i pretty much love it like no matter what also i'll tell you what i've learned that an actor that i really like obviously not enough to remember his full oh it's ben foster Ben Foster plays the crazy brother in Heller Highwater. And every time he's in a movie, I end up liking his character. You've seen Alpha Dog? I think he's a... With him?

No. The best. No. That's his best character, Ben Foster. Watch Alpha Dog. You think it's... I love his character in this movie in Heller High Water. You think it's better than that?

He's great, but it's a smaller role, but in Alpha Dog, he's a psycho, and he's so good at it. It's unbelievable to watch. that like this character in hell or high water yeah you believe this character will do anything right i'll tell you who's pretty good at this same kind of role is jeremy uh renner like he plays this kind of guy in the town right ben afflex buddy it's like hey we got to go do something i can't tell you who can't tell you where and i can't tell you why all i can tell you is we're going to hurt some people and you can't ask me questions yeah and his he goes well i have one question he's like what, whose car are we taken?

Yeah. Like, that is, that is a badass and you believe this guy is that kind of guy. It's hard to do. Yeah, with a Boston accent, yes. That's Ben Foster in this movie. And this guy, you actually know, I know these guys in real life. I have friends of these guys. I'm down fiercely loyal, right?

Fiercely unpredictable, but the predictable thing that you know is they're going to be there for you, you know, if you're in their circle of whatever it is. and um but also the themes like there's a scene in that movie with jeff bridges and his his deputy who's american indian they're talking about the banks taking over these towns and you know like he's like you don't get it you're the indians now uh the the deputy says that to jeff bridges and the sheriff they're taking this from you um i don't know i i think it's it's incredible thematically action also is chris pine yes he he was always he was always was like a rom-com actor and he did great in that he kind of stepped over into that role i mean he's done other dramatic things but he really surprised me in that isn't his big thing star track

star trek yeah he was kirk yep but he's goofy and you know whatever there's some seriousness but he really played that role well in hell or high water yeah i agree it's an awesome awesome movie that scene where they go to the restaurant that was the the the mean is a snake wait Oh, unbelievable. It's great. The stand. I won't give it away, but. Anyway, that's my, I think that's my favorite movie of the last 25 years,

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