Will Cain Country - Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson Claims Criticisms Of Judges Are An 'Attack On Democracy'

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Story #1: Quick Takes: Why playoff hockey is the best, Senator John Fetterman's disturbance on an airplane, the Justice Department opens an investigation on a Minnesota DA over racial discrimination, and Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson claims criticizing judges is an ‘attack on democracy.’   Story #2: How are the First 100 Days of the second Trump Administration going? Will breaks down the 'All In' Podcast's grades so far and shares his conversation with University of Dallas college students as he gathers the opinions of Gen Z. Story #3: As President Donald Trump looks to open the Alcatraz super-prison back up, Will and The Crew take a quiz with five things you likely didn't know about the infamous island. Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to 'The Will Cain Show' on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One, Donald Trump to put troops into Mexico to fight the drug cartels. A hit piece green light on John Fetterman. And the Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, says we're going after prosecutors who want to use race to make plea deals. after a call for that from the Will Cain Show. Two, listening to the experts and the students directly after the first 100 days of Donald Trump. Three, Alcatraz app opened as a new federal prison. Trivia, quiz. What did you know about Alcatraz?

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voting for Donald Trump. All the students interviewed were voters of Donald Trump. But 1004 or five days later, how do they feel? What would they do if they had a do-over? We're going to share that interview with you a little bit later here on the Will Cane Show. Plus, with Trump saying he might open, reopen Alcatraz as a federal prison. Well, let's see how much we actually know about the infamous Alcatraz. Today, at 4 p.m. Eastern 3 o'clock Central and 1 o'clock Pacific, we will be debuting a brand new studio for the Will Cain show in Dallas, Texas. When they called me in December and offered me my own show. The most glorious thing that I heard that day was from Dallas.

It meant I got to stay home with my family. I got to live in my culture, with my people, in my state. But for the past three months, I've been hosting that show in a less than ideal environment. Fine. You get a show off the ground, and I'm grateful that the audience has awarded us with record ratings over the first three months. But I've had a grand vision for what I want that show to be. And as everything in life, it's always a work in progress. There's never a finish line. There's only a journey. But today's a big step forward in that journey because the way I envision a show

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and we can do a lot of things, including hopefully grab that vibe, that authentic vibe that we want for the Will. Cain Show. So tune in today at 3 o'clock Central and 4 o'clock Eastern for the brand new studios in Dallas, Texas. But let's get to it today. We've got quick takes. So let's get to that, starting with story number one. All right, to take us through, we've got the most electric man in television to take us through some of the four biggest stories today. We are paying attention to here with a version of quick takes. Take it away, tinfoil pat. We got a big one, Will.

investigation. Now, you may have heard this story because we covered it on this show and on the TV show. Hennepin County, Minnesota prosecutor Mary Moriarty called for race in plea dealings. And so here's a clip, well, a full screen of that, right? She said, here's what she wrote. Yeah. Here's what she said in an internal memo to the county attorneys under her jurisdiction. She said, while racial identity and age are not appropriate grounds for departures from the Minnesota sentencing guidelines, proposed resolution should consider the person charged as a whole person, including their racial identity and age. While these factors should not be controlling, they should be part of the overall analysis. Racial disparities harm our community, lead to distrust, and have a negative impact on community safety.

Suggesting to our prosecutors, when making a plea deal, take a look at the time. the whole person. Don't let it be controlling, but take a look and and factor in their skin color on what kind of deal they get from Hennepin County. That's right. And so it turns out that the DOJ is now going to be investigating her and looking into this call. And it couldn't have come at a better time because someone on 430 on the TV side said, called for this exact thing. So here go play the clip i'm concerned however the past five to seven years we've adopted openly racialist policies allowing small police departments allowing prosecutors allowing colleges to take race into account it's what we fought for over 150 years to do away with and with a matter

of five years we openly adopted it across this country and it's a question for leo terrell it's a question for harmeet dylan a question for pam bondie what at the office of civil rights at the DOJ will be done. It's a question for you right now, May. What will be done to do away with these openly, I think, racist and unconstitutional policies? DEI is racial preferencing. It is racial discrimination. And you can't just change the name and try and escape what this is. So the civil rights team, but also the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services. These departments all have civil rights teams there. Those civil rights teams are supposed to enforce civil rights law in any entity that

touches the federal government. That's May Mailman spokesperson for the White House. It's encouraging to hear now after that call a week ago on the Will Cane show that the DOJ and Harmeet Dillon at the Civil Rights Division is going to look into Hennepin County specifically. I think what Hennepin County is doing, taking race into account when it comes to plea bargains, is absolutely unconstitutional, also irreconceptible, and morally, absolutely absurd. This is what we fought, as I said, for 150 years to do away with. To all of a sudden embrace it over a five-year period is something that has to be actively sought out, rooted out, and prosecuted. I'm happy to see the civil rights division of the DOJ beginning this process of an investigation in

Hennepin County, don't stop. Because over five years, we have implemented this type of racist unconstitutional policies at every level of almost every institution. Go after them. Pursue them. Because if you don't, you don't, William Barrett, Travis, draw a line in the sand. This is our alamo. You give up where you started, what you fought for to create in this country. Meanwhile, by the way, speaking of the justices and the justice system, Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson has talked about anybody who criticizes the judiciary is also now, guess what, an attack on our democracy. She said the following, the threats and harassments are attacks on our democracy on our system of government, and they ultimately risk undermining our constitution and the rule of law. you know i i actually love the justice system i love the law i went to law school i have great reverence for it i think it's the enshrinement the ideals of our founding fathers but it isn't the pope

it isn't the high mount the supreme court of the united states is wise sometimes but it is not it should not be sanctified and untouchable you can criticize the judiciary you can criticize Supreme Court justices. You can criticize all branches of government. And it's so cliched at this point for anyone who is withering criticism to say, you attacking me is an attack on democracy.

It's absurd that somehow the judiciary is above the public debate. And the fact the judiciary in many levels, mostly lower court levels, is having it out with the executive as we speak, that's part of a messy

republic. because we are not a democracy. We are a republic. Take it away, Tinfoil, Pat. What could be more exciting than this segment right here with me? NHL playoff hockey will. The Dallas Stars, a couple nights ago, they beat the Avalanche in Game 7 to go on to the second round.

Last night, double overtime win for the Jets over the Blues. It looks like your Dallas Stars are going to be playing the Winnipeg Jets, the President's trophy-winning Winnipeg Jets in the next round. How do you feel? I feel like this. I saw a tweet this morning. It was from 2014 and somebody bumped it up. Why watch playoff hockey?

You could just snort a pile of cocaine and ride a motorcycle out of a helicopter. It's a pretty apt description of it. It's amazing. Playoff hockey is amazing. Exilarating. I've never snored a pile of cocaine and driven a motorcycle out of a helicopter. But, I mean, if it's like playoff hockey, it's amazing. And I don't want to do this thing like, you know, oh, NBA sucks.

But here's the thing. It's hard not to compare the two because they happen at the same time. And you do make active choices about what to watch. And I did have a Saturday night was incredible. I was actually at a charity event. So I was having to watch it on, watching on my phone. And this guy that I'd met that night was sitting. next to me and he's the only person that really seemed to show a lot of interest sitting next

me about like hey it was like a big game going on right now game seven yeah so we got watch and when they scored the third goal the stars were down two o going into the third period with 12 minutes left they were still down two oh and then miko rantan was unleashed one of the greatest players in the hockey in hockey who dallas traded for this year and who at the beginning of the year was a colorado avalanche and he was traded away from them and so you have to understand in 12 minutes he destroys his former team. He gets a hat trick and an assist. Two nights in a row.

He sets the record for most points in a single playoff period with four points. It was three before him. He did it in game six. He did it again in game seven. He put the stars on his back. It was incredible. And when they hit that third goal to go ahead, I mean, I grabbed that dude sitting next to me who I just met that night's knee

and like stared him deep in the eye. You know, it was. And he's like, what? Did we just become best friends? Yep. It was incredible, man. But then I had to make a choice on Sunday. And I was interested in who the stars would play, the Jets or the Blues.

They were in a game seven. But it was also what, Cavs, Pacers, there was also Warriors Rockets game seven, right? And here's Warriors Rockets, a complete blowout game seven. The Warriors destroy the Rockets. Meanwhile, the Jets down three to one with two. Two minutes left scored two goals to tie the game. The last one with 1.6 seconds left on the clock. And then it sends it to double overtime and the Jets win in double overtime.

I mean, it's insane what playoff hockey is. It's the best. I mean, it's not the best. I know college football and NFL is incredible. It's so good playoff hockey. Go ahead, 10-4-O-Pat. Oh, sorry, real quick. the last President's Trophy

winning team to also win the Stanley Cup the 2012-2013 Chicago Blackhawks so things are looking up for the stars just saying all right all right so moving on we have

one of our favorite senators Senator John Federman of Pennsylvania he was caught on video in a flight to Pittsburgh arguing with the flight attendant we're going to show you the video right now Is your seatbelt on? Okay, it needs to be visible for the crew at all times.

That's not on that. That's not an us thing. That's a federal regulation. So it's okay. I, it's okay. Okay, it's okay, but it just has to be visible to the crew at all times. Sounds like a bit of a minute and a half long video. Yeah, minimum half.

half-long video, Federman arguing with the pilot, I don't know what they're arguing about, by the way, like, because it's like, hey, your seatbelt's not visible. I don't know if Federman refused to put on his seatbelt or he wouldn't take it out from underneath his hoodie. I don't know, but they're arguing, like, you got to see the seatbelt. And you can't hear Federman very well in this video because he's facing away from the person taking the shot. But the flight to Pittsburgh, apparently, was held up for quite some time over this.

So there's something going on with John Federman. There was a New York Magazine piece late last week from, like the primary source is a long-time aide to John Federman, Aiden, Aiden Gentilson, long-time aide. And he wrote a 1,600-word email to a doctor for Federman laying out like this case of all the concerns he have. It's weird because a lot of the stuff he lays out in this email, it's like, why would you be telling the doctor this stuff? But it's like Fetterman eats fast food several times a day. They say he's not taking his meds. He mumbles to himself in long sermons, monologues to himself. He's extremely moody, on and on and on and on.

And they talk about his spiral going into depression when, I believe it was in 2023. He went in for six weeks into the hospital for depression. And this has all been bumped up and they're talking about what bad shape John Federman's in. now that may be true i mean i don't think any of us look at john federman go that right there looks like the picture of rock solid stability no one thinks that but i will say this he looks a lot better than he does did when he was elected and protected by democrats in 2020 literally had a stroke on the campaign right could not speak and was lionized and protected by the press now undoubtedly Federman is doing better, is in better shape, can communicate, maybe he has mood issues.

I'm not actually going to argue with some of the facts of this, but what I would say is he's better than he was, but now there's a green light on John Federman. Why? Well, he's anti-illegal immigration. Why? Well, he's pro-Israel. Why? He's more moderate on a host of issues than the Democratic Party requires.

Why? Because he was one of the first to go meet after his election. Donald Trump. Why? Because he considered voting for Pete Heggseth and did vote for Pam Bondi as Donald Trump's cabinet, the only Democrat to do so. I believe what's really going on here is the reason you're hearing the stuff about Fetterman is he's now no longer in the protected bubble. He's been too independent. He's been too much outside the Democratic establishment's requirements. And now you can Greenlight a huge piece in New York Magazine detailing his declines, which may or may not be true, The point is would not have been told three years ago and was not told five years ago, four years ago.

This is more a story of what happens when you step out of line than any obvious decline of John Federman to a day. Which is how it should not be at all. I mean, if you don't tow the exact party line of what the Democrats want, and then all of a sudden you're this pariah to them, because he's willing to cross party lines, because he's willing to do these things. we need more people like that to get actual things done and it just won't change and I do believe that's what this is about not his moodiness or how much McDonald's he eats and I don't even mean I don't even mean to diminish it

maybe he is he is really like not solid I don't know I haven't been with him but I do know he had a car accident after going on real time with Bill Maher he re-ended a lady totaled two cars that's part of this piece I talked about how reckless of a driver he is. Again, I don't know what that has to do. That could be independent of his mental issues. But what is completely clear is there's a green light on John Federman. Go ahead, tinfoil. Thanks, Will. Troops in Mexico? Well, President Trump says that he did offer Mexico. Here, listen to this.

Mexico is saying that I offered to send U.S. troops into Mexico to take care of the cartel. She wants to know, is that true? Do you think I'm going to answer that question? That's why I'm asking. We'll see. I will answer it. It's true. If Mexico wanted help with the cartels, we would be honored to go in and do it. I told her that I would be honored to go in and do it.

The cartels are trying to destroy our country. They're evil. I love that. That's such a great answer. Do you think I'm going to answer that question? I will answer it. It's true. He literally.

He had to be president, a billionaire. He could have been a comedian. He could have been, like, one of the world's greatest comedians. Wow. And he just passed it up. I've met him, and I came away, obviously, I've talked about it. I came away from it. He's in on his own joke, right?

You can see it in his eyes. But, like, that's the kind of clip where I don't know if he's in on it. Like, is that a comedian intends a joke? Did he intend the roller coaster of that answer? Do you think I'm going to answer that question? I will answer it. We should watch it again. Real quick.

Okay. All right. are saying that I offered to send U.S. troops into Mexico to take care of the cartel. She wants to know, is that true? Do you think I'm going to answer that question? That's why I'm asking. We'll see. I will answer it.

It's true. He definitely set himself up. He set himself up for that. You could see it on his face. He's like, watch this. He puts her on her heels, right? He puts her on her heels. Like, how dare you ask, what kind of idiot would answer that question?

That's national security. You think I'm going to answer that question? Yeah. I will answer that question. That's some weird logic in talking to a reporter. As for the actual substance of this, wow. You know, he says he's offered up troops, American military forces to battle the cartels on Mexico. He says Claudia Shinedbum, who's a lovely woman.

She's a lovely woman, but she's scared. She can't walk. She's scared to walk. Scared of the cartels in Mexico. She doesn't want it right now. It's pretty fascinating. Well, a couple of things I would say. Did you guys see the interview with CNN on a cartel member?

CNN sat down with a member of the Sinaloa cartel. And it is pretty wild. It's pretty wild how sympathetic it sounds. It's like Donald Trump has, you know, designated the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. What would your message be to Donald Trump? And she asks him, it's like, uh, Not how do you feel about being designated, but I can't, what's your, it's a weird, I can't decide if the reporter's just kind of not good at this, like forming questions and asking

questions, but there is no doubt it sounds sympathetic. Like, what's your message to Donald Trump calling you a terrorist? How do you feel about being called a terrorist to these drug cartels? It was all, you know, masked up, got his shades on. He's actually wearing, like, blue surgical gloves as well. I guess maybe he's got tats on his hands. It's probably why he's doing that. Who knows?

Maybe he has a marijuana leaf and smiley face and all of those. It's photoshopped. It's photoshopped. It's photoshopped. It's photoshopped. That's what you believe that she told us. That's what she believed. The question is if we put troops into Mexico, does this become our Vietnam?

I mean, green berets, making raids, I mean, Kulia Khan. What does that mean, you know, six months down the road, two years down the road, five years down the road? It's easy to see how you get sucked in. We have had direct interviews with cartel members where they have told me, no, it won't be Vietnam. Because why? They don't work together. You take one out, the guy that replaces him doesn't avenge him.

There's no like death spiral because they're all mercenaries looking for their own advancement. And when you cut the head off the snake, a new head grows, that's all there is to it. But you can't imagine, like, the minute a Green Beret dies on that raid and cool you can, then what's the response? got to be then what's the escalatory effect from america not so much like oh my gosh how formidable are the cartels because i'm sure he's right they'll never work together but what's the escalatory spiral of losing americans in the drug war in mexico i think that's pretty concerning even though i'm all for taking out the drug cartels that's why we have drones all right let's leave it there that's quick takes for today at the end of the hundred

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It is the Will Kane show streaming live at Fox News.com on the Fox News YouTube channel and Fox News Facebook. Hit subscribe at Spotify or Apple and join us every Monday through Thursday. I was listening this weekend. I had multiple soccer games across the DFW area, so 30, 40 minute drives back and forth. And I was listening to the All-In podcast. I don't know if any of you guys ever listened to the All-N podcast. Chmoth, Paula Petitia, David Sacks, Jason Calcanus, and more.

Tech entrepreneurs, tech investors, tech billionaires, at least 100 millionaires, discussing politics, the economy, and tech. David Sacks is now the AI and Crypto czar for the president's administration. And they invited on in this particular episode a couple of guys sort of from the left and libertarian to discuss the first 100 days. I just want to tell you, we did our grades here. I talked about what I thought. But it was interesting in this discussion to listen to a couple of issues I hadn't thought about and to revisit the issue that everyone is thinking about. First, I do think it's true.

And this isn't just coming from David Sachs who works for the administration, but a guy like Chamath Paula Patia, who's a tech entrepreneur, some of the areas where there is definitely a high grade. for the administration. And these are big. These aren't small areas. So first of all, the investment in the United States for the first 200 days announced by foreign corporations and domestic corporations to build manufacturing, next generation, artificial intelligence, and the future economy right here in America. That's been an absolute A plus. We've seen trillions committed to building the future economy right here in America. We've seen the announcement, by the way, in places like

Texas and Louisiana of AI infrastructure being built. The AI race is going to determine a lot of who owns the next century, which country dominates economically and through national security the next century. And it is essential that we prioritize artificial intelligence. And the Trump administration has keeping it open source, deregulating, and providing carrot incentives of companies to invest in America. If you don't, and China gets to dominate that, you can find yourself in the same kind of situation that we are in with rare earth minerals, which is a bad news place.

We have rare earth minerals here in the United States. What we don't have is processing power to turn that into usable products like magnets. China dominates 90% of that market. So, and that's happened over a period of years, that now the Trump has. Trump administration is focused on recapturing. But here's the scenario. Say China were to invade Taiwan, and we would have to choose a side. We have pledged to defend Taiwan, or say China and India got into a war, and we would

have to choose aside. If we were anti-China, not just with rare earth minerals, but the manufacturing base to support not T-shirts and tennis shoes, that's not the Chinese economy anymore, but advanced manufacturing that goes into our ability to manage. manufacturer. So like the stuff that goes into our factories. And then also pharmaceuticals, it would set us back some to just 50 years if we were cut off there from China. So this entire thing, including the tariffs, is to recapture that part of our future economy, which has already begun with the foreign investments, A plus. Then there's the tariffs. And this is where the biggest

side of the debate was on. On one side you have the critics who call it chaotic. that we're on the verge now of an inventory crunch, stuff stuck at the docks, stuff stuck in bonded warehouses, stuff not entering the supply chain, and if it is, it's paying massive tariffs. That will in turn lead to layoffs in the next couple of months. This is what people say,

specifically at small businesses. On the flip side, the argument is we were on an unsustainable path and nobody had anything to say about it. Like it was a clearly unsustainable path to let China dominate so much of our economy. But now everybody's an expert on how you do it. And there is no drought that communications has been chaotic.

And there have been pivots and repivots and drawbacks. But, you know, the other way to do it. So Donald Trump comes out with across the board Liberation Day tariffs. And then he starts to make exceptions for auto tariffs and this and that and this and that and pokes holes in it as he sees the way it affects the economy. And you can say that's haphazard. That's terrible. And that's chaos and uncertainty.

or you say the other way to do it is to sit around in a congressional committee like Rand Paul would propose writing papers for the next five to ten years that ultimately absolutely go nowhere. So the question is how will it all play out over, let's call it a six to 12 month period. As trade deals begin to come in and markets adjust and positive news, presuming this all happens, comes in, there may be some. short-term rise in unemployment. There may be some short-term rise in inflation, although we should point out that hasn't happened yet. That's all projection. The month of April was great. The stock

market is higher than it was on Liberation Day. And the labor force participation rate is higher today than when Doge started while government jobs are down. So Doge cuts government jobs and yet labor force participation goes up. That means we have private economy employment, less necessity to pinned upon the government. So the tariffs are an incomplete. And when I had a guess last night, we said they could go towards a D. But you know what else they could do? Absolutely stick the landing over the next, and I think you have to give them a year. But the next year for an A plus, foreign policy, this was brought up on the all-in podcast. Okay, we don't know. How's it going to go with Putin? How's it going to go with Zelensky? But here's what we do know. We were on a glide path of escalation

toward something that could be World War III, continued investment, continued bombastic rhetoric, continued belligerence, and continue not talking to, in other words, no diplomacy with Vladimir Putin. And that changed on a dime with Trump's presidency. Will he pull it off? We'll see. But we are off that glide path to escalation. We're off that glide path to war.

And that's got to be seen as an A-plus. everyone thinks that immigration the border is an absolute a plus there are people that disagree on deportations i actually happen to think there's the concern overdue process for illegal immigrants is overblown i think the public polling suggests people like this and want to see it and i'm going to tell you a story really quickly i have friends i know people who are illegal immigrants and we talk openly. And I know some from El Salvador. And I asked one, hey, what do you think about all this? And he goes, it's good. I'm like, you're not worried about being deported? And he goes, well, they're focused on bad people. And bad people should be deported. People that come here,

and look, and he's already broken the law. This guy's broken the law, right? But by illegal immigrating, but nothing more. What I mean by that is, he's like, you come here and you keep your nose down and you work and you do a good job be a good person and you'll probably be safe it's the guys that don't that are getting deported there was something interesting about that because that's not the story whether not you agree or disagree you're like oh you should go or should not go i get that whatever but that's not the story you're told that's not the image you're given of this entire thing of people hiding in the shadows and scared and it's actually the opposite and it's endorsement got to get rid of bad people that's the that's i asked about the prisons in el salvador as well he said

bad people i said how much like 75 percent he goes no 95 percent and i go what's that other five percent mistakes he goes yeah mistakes like you're hanging out around the bad people but you're not a bad person that's who ends up in president el salvador loves bukely by the way loves what he's done in El Salvador. I found that conversation fascinating. Last, vibes and wokeness, it's dead. I mean, wokeness is virtually dead. David Sacks brought this up, and that's a big pivot.

It's easy to sound like a small thing, but think about how big it was in our lives a few years ago. How many people were terrified to talk, the cancellations, the way it affected your workplace, the way it affected pop culture. It's dying. An absolute A-plus. That's from the experts at the podcast All In.

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and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at Foxx. newspodcast.com. Welcome back to the Wilcane show. But I also want to talk to some students, some young people, on the ground. So I went to the University of Dallas and met with students who ranged from freshmen to seniors about how they felt about this first 100 days of the presidency of Donald Trump. Thank you guys for being with me here today.

Let's start with a little bit of a poll. If you voted for President Trump in 2024, would you raise your hand? all right here we are 100 days into his second term i'm curious if you had a do-over today how many of you would again vote for president trump that took a minute justin tell me what was in your thought process everyone else's hand went up pretty quickly reaffirming what they chose in the fall you thought about it for a minute well for me um the most important issue to me my conviction is that you know, for the baby in the womb, I think we have an obligation to protect them. So that's the first thing. It's like you have two candidates. One is, you know, if not pro-life,

at least just wants to keep the status quo on abortion, whereas the other one wants to expand it, highly expand it. At the same time, though, all the other things that Trump has done, I'm personally not too big a fan of. I personally think that if Kamala was pro-life, I would have voted for her. Emily, what do you like the most, or what has validated your vote for President Trump? Just Doge in general, I think it's well done. I think it's very much needed. If you look at the money, we were spending tens of millions of dollars for hotel rooms for illegal aliens in New York City, millions of dollars to promote LGBT in other countries, and over $15 million in social security payments for individuals above the age of 109.

So, I mean, those are just a few things. I think Doge is very necessary to kind of go in there and see what the government has been doing with our money and how we can better spend it. As a competitive dancer, I also really appreciate the fact that he has cracked down on men and women's sports because they have greater lung capacity, they have greater bone density, their hearts are bigger and can beat blood more easily. It's just patently unfair and also unsafe for the women, frankly. And so I really appreciate what he's done with that. Kim, you're an athlete here at the University of Dallas. You play golf. Is that a big issue, as just laid out by Emily, is trans men in women's sports?

Was that a big issue for you and your vote? It certainly played a part in my vote. It wasn't, I would say, the main reason I voted for Trump. But what he has done with the trans issue has been exceptionally helpful for college sports, having the NCAA make very clear rules that protect athletes. of both genders, as well as, I think, honestly, help trans people by removing a point of controversy for sports that really sports doesn't need right now. I'm curious with the rest of you.

When you look at Elon Musk, when you look at Doge, do you see this as a net positive for the United States? Marianne? I consider Doge to be a really innovative idea. I think it is important to have transparency between the people and the government as to where our taxpayer dollars are going. However, because it is such a new idea, as you just mentioned in your earlier statement, there's always going to be ups and downs when you bring innovation into the game.

And so I think that's just a part of the process of figuring out how to make it more efficiently, how to make it more efficient, how to make government run more efficiently. Like, there's always going to be some trial and error with that just because it's such a new idea. But I think it's good that they're doing that for the long term. I think there's been super helpful for the United States government, especially, you know, eliminating things like USAID, and you saw the contracts they were pulling out. They're very transparent about what it is they're cutting, especially at the beginning. And we've hit, you know, road bumps recently.

And it seems, you know, they keep on scaling back their promises about what they're intending to do, but the fact that the government does need to be made much more efficient is evident, and not something that's unique to Republicans either. The philosophy has been move, fast and often. So do you like that not just with Doge, but the entirety of the Trump administration? I would say certain things. I think our system's set up to make things move slowly for a reason.

You don't necessarily... I do not like that they've been trying to do everything through executive order. Ideally, Congress would be backing some of those things. up. But I think things like immigration are necessary to, you know, it's necessary to be done through executive order and do that quickly. Marian? I'm also going to say that what he's done with immigration has been probably one of my

favorite things because as a daughter of like two legal immigrants who came to the United States and someone whose parents are still trying to get my family to, from the Philippines to come to the United States. I appreciate that they're trying to prioritize that and making sure that people can come here legally as opposed to illegally. In terms of my least favorite thing, it's probably going to be, I wish I could see more action from the administration regarding the pro-life movement, because while Dobbs, the overturning of Roe v. Wade and everything, was a significant win for the pro-life movement, there are still some issues that are going on, such as with the abortion pills and those getting transferred across state lines, even if it's illegal, in a particular. state. So I would like to see more action from the administration about that. Justin? I'm going to be honest. I spent that entire time trying to come up with something I liked about what Trump has done. So I'll just start with something I've disliked. Just as

foreign policy, foreign affairs policies in general, how he's handled, you know, the wars in the Middle East and in Ukraine, the tariffs, those things, just the general foreign policy things that I'm not too big a fan of. As for a favorite thing, I guess when it comes to ensuring equality within, like, sports or something like that, or, you know, ensuring that women's sports are protected, women are protected, you know, because, I mean, transgenderism is a whole other issue, but I think at the very least, it's important to protect women in sports in the competitive field. You guys are young, you know, you may change.

your points of view. And that's great. You shouldn't be expected to be the same 10 years from now that you are today. But what do you think will be the same for you? What will still be important? So the most important thing is always going to be the welfare of American citizens, whether that's education and the broken education system, whether that's illegal aliens, and you feel like you're losing your country in a sense, and national security issues. And so I think that's always just getting the most important thing is economic freedom, you know, religious freedom, the education system, and just the national security issues. Yeah, I like your question because I know my opinions on certain things have been changing,

especially during this time in college, you're learning a lot of new things. I know the one thing that won't change is my opinion on life, though. I think, you know, we're seeing a lot of attacks on life with abortion and euthanasia. And so I think, you know, 10 years down the line, 15 years down the line, wherever I am, unfortunately, Trump hasn't been that president, so we've had to focus on other things. things, but I hope future presidents can really take a strong stance on, look, if this is a life and we believe it's murder, then it's got to be stopped at a national level. I really do appreciate Trump standing up to China, putting tariffs on China, because, I mean,

the FBI estimates that it costs us up to $600 billion a year with them stealing our intellectual property. Xi Jinping wants China to be the most powerful nation in the world, and they do not share our ideals. We have to be vigilant about that. So vigilance with our foreign adversaries, vigilance with the border, and even just making sure our allies don't take advantage of us. All right. Emily, Aden, Kim, Jude, Marianne, Justin.

Awesome conversation. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. 18 to 22 years old, freshman to senior, incredibly thoughtful and impressive young people, know what they believe in, also with the humility to know they may change their mind. at some point, and seven out of eight, or actually his eight out of eight, would recommit their vote to Donald Trump, only one hesitant, and that's because basically he was on the left, except he's

extremely pro-life, but all very, very thoughtful there at the University of Dallas. All right, when we come back, President Trump has suggested he wants to reopen Alcatraz as a federal prison. So what do you really know about Alcatraz? Our quiz, when we come back on The Will Kane Show. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Hey there, it's me. Kennedy, make sure to check out my podcast. Kennedy saves the world.

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what i i get that and i get i literally get that from view or something times like why do you have these people on you know it makes me so mad i change a channel what i mean by i get that is when you're not a participant when you're a viewer you feel a little out of control and what you're hearing and so you outsource it to me to sort of cathartically do or say what you want to be said or that kind of thing but as a participant i don't get mad i mean i would probably liken it to you ever hear the like we were talking about playoff hockey The tension that we feel as fans is higher than the tension they feel on the ice, you know, any game for that matter,

because you're competitively engaged and you're not as, like, nervous and tense. And I don't feel that way when I'm debating somebody. You know, there are times when I get mad, make no mistake, and I think it's pretty evident. My mom says she doesn't like it when I do these because I look so mean and mad, but I'm not mad. I'm just intense. But I have gotten mad.

But, no, I mean, I wasn't mad when Carville is. I'm listening, I'm listening, and then, you know, prepared to respond. But I get it. I get how you feel, Chris. All right. Ten full pat, two days, Dan, Alcatraz. Donald Trump has said he wants to reopen the federal prison for some of the worst of the worst. He tweeted, rebuild and open Alcatraz.

For too long, America has been plagued by vicious, violent, and repeat criminal offenders, the dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than me. misery and suffering when we were by the way misery capitalized suffering capitalized when we were more serious nation in times past we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous criminals and keep them far away from anyone they could harm that's why that's the way it's supposed to be no longer we tolerate these serial offenders also capitalized who spread filth bloodshed and mayhem on our streets that's why today i'm directing the bureau of prisons together with the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security to reopen and substantially enlarge and

rebuild Alcatraz to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders. Again, offenders capitalized. We'll no longer be held hostage to criminals, thugs, and judges that are afraid to do their job and allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally. Country capitalized. And reopening Alcatraz will serve as a symbol of law, order, and justice. And we will make America a great again. Why does he pick certain words to capitalize? I mean, at least bold, like, capitalize the whole word. He does

that. Yeah. He did that on Alcatraz and a few others. But then this, the first letter of the word, like, offenders and country. Is that emphasis? Like, what's he going for? Emphasis there? Like, pronoun thing? I don't know what that is. Just saying. With misery and suffering, I thought

he was doing it, and it was kind of a code and it was going to be MS. And I was looking for how to get 13. out of that. No. Like it's like a word code within his truth social post. I wouldn't put a piece. All right.

This is one of those issues that it kind of is cool on the surface, but I mean, it's not realistic. You know, the cost to house inmates at Alcatraz, from what I've read, is three times what it costs to put him at, say, Leavenworth, you know, in Kansas. So it costs more. Also, have you guys been to Alcatraz ever? I've been to Alcatraz Which is awesome by the way

You gotta go That tour There's something about it Obviously that captures public imagination But it is decrepit and old man Like I don't It's one of those deals

Like I think you'd have to knock it down And then rebuild it from scratch To meet modern prison Standards Like there's no refurbishing this thing You know It's in bad shape So it would be expensive

From start to finish for what for a cool symbol like you're going to alcatraz it's a pretty cool symbol as a museum though i mean that's another thing i we don't get to go anymore if it's full of prisoners you know i bet people i've always said i want to do the the escape from alcatraz swim it's triathlon i don't want to do the biking and running on the hills of san francisco but i would like to swim from alcatraz the san francisco we had to get nicholas cage sean conry out there you know this is it to open This is what we know of Alcatraz. This is it right here.

I'm pretty good here. It's a fantastic movie, but. I don't think Sean Conner is a great movie. All right. So what do we know besides The Rock? Two days, you have a quiz for us on Alcatraz. I do. Doing the same music as before, because why not?

All right. So I have five questions that are based on knowledge of Alcatraz. The first question was, what was the original purpose of Alcatraz? Alcatraz Island before it became a federal prison? Was it A, a lighthouse station, B, a military fortification, C, a quarantine hospital, or A, or D, a trading post? I got it. Do you have it, Patrick? Do you want to go against me here? Sure. Bring it. You can go first if you want or whatever. All right, but don't just ride my weight through this. I'm not. It was B. It was a military base. What do you think, Patrick? I was going C, so. It is B, a military. It is B, a military.

military fortification. Alcatraz was initially developed in the mid-1800s as a military base equipped with the West Coast First Lighthouse. It later served as a military prison before its conversion into a federal penitentiary in 1934. To be fair, you've been on the tour, so. Yeah, that's fair. That's not fair. All right. Question two. Which notorious gangster played the banjo in Alcatraz's inmate band called the Rock Islanders? Was it A, Al Capone, B, George Machine Gun Kelly?

Was it C, Robert Birdman Stroud, or D, Mickey Cohen? Oh, I don't know this. It's a good one. The Rock Islanders, inmate band, played banjo. Well, I've never heard a single thing about Al Capone being a musician at all, so not Al Capone. It could be Birdman because we really only know that one part of his story that he, he, he tried to escape that way. What was D?

D is Mickey Cohen. Gangster? Mickey Cohen? Yep. Yeah, I don't know much about Mickey Cohen. By the way, you want to know what my Wikipedia rabbit hole was this weekend? Always a good weekend. I've fallen down this rabbit hole numerous times in my life, but I did deep gangster work

this weekend. Like five families of New York. I watched a terrible movie that I don't want to recommend to anybody starring Robert De Niro called Alto Knights. He plays both Frank Costello and Vito Genovese, and it's terrible. But it did send me on the, let me, I want to dive deep on the Italian Mafia again. Fascinating. So I, and so what was B? Machine Gun. B was George Machine Gun Kelly.

Not to be confused with the rapper. What do you got, Patrick? I'm going to see. I'm going C again because the mafia guys don't really sound like they would be into it. Well, you're probably right. Both of you are wrong. It's A Al Capone. played the banjo. Really? Yeah, during his incarceration,

Al Capone played the banjo in the prison band, the rock Islanders, showcasing a different side of the infamous mobster. So apparently, a banjo is a southern instrument. Like, I can't see him.

He's from Chicago. There's a lot of time on your hands. Can you imagine Al Capone not being the lead singer? He's like, yeah, I'll play banjo. You guys take the lead. I don't see that. Al Capone's brain was

rotted out from syphilis or something, so I don't know. how he was able to learn to play the banjo during that time. Da-da-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding. All right, question three. What was the average daily cost per inmate at Alcatraz

compared to the national average at the same time of its operation? So other... I just said this. Yes. Unfortunately, A, $3 at Alcatraz versus $1 nationally.

$5 at Alcatraz versus $2 nationally. $13 at Alcatraz versus $5 nationally or $20 at Alcatraz versus $10 nationally. A, B, C, or D? A, 3 to 1.

What do you think, Patrick? I'm going to go with that. I'm not going to be stupid. It is C, $13 at Alcatraz versus $5 nationally. That just exposed me for fake news in my setup. I read this morning it was 3 to 1. I'm getting 13.

I just got GPT. Wow. You just got GPT, dude. Okay, question four. Moving on. How many escape attempts were made from Alcatraz and how many inmates were never found? So there's two numbers to each answer.

A, 14 attempts, five inmates never found. B, 10 attempts, three inmates never found. C, 20 attempts, seven inmates never found. D, five attempts, two inmates never found. never found um b was 14 and 5 is that what it was 10 and 3 a was 14 of what was okay i'm going 10 and 3 b that's rough okay so yeah it's either between b or d i think um but i want to go with b probably right in my wake now it could have been a hold on the it could have been a i know there was the four guys that made the raft and then they're the

guys that made the the the heads in their bed so that the guards would think they're still sleeping in the morning and i thought there was four of them and i couldn't remember if all four of them disappeared this is why i went with so i thought maybe just three of them disappeared and one was found what's the answer the answer is a 14 attempts five inmates never found So I have between 1934 and 1963, there are 14 escape attempts, including 36 inmates. While most were captured or perished, five inmates were never found and are presumed drowned. Okay. Yep.

All right. Question number five. What unique feature did Alcatraz offer to prevent inmates from becoming acclimated to a cold water, thus deterring escape attempts? A, cold water showers, B, heated cells, C, warm water showers, D, daily swimming exercises. Wait, so this was provided to them or deprived of them? What unique feature did Alcatraz offer to prevent inmates from becoming acclimated to cold water? So they deterred them. It's got to be hot showers.

It's got to be hot showers. Patrick? Whatever that was. Yeah. Yeah, what was D? D was daily swimming exercises. Well, that's not it. I'm going to go with, what was C?

Warm water showers. What was B? Great radio. Heated cells. I'm going to go with B, just not to copy. It was C, warm water showers. Alcatraz provided warm water showers to inmates, a rarity in prisons at the time,

to prevent them from acclimating to cold bay waters, thereby discouraging escape attempts. on the tour they said it was super cold at alcatraz by way wasn't going to be heated cells it's insane yeah it was super cold it's cold in san francisco people forget that and then it's out there in the middle of the bay and it has super drafty i would love to do it i'd love to do a poll to see how many people know where alcatraz is in this country i bet most people would be interesting yeah i don't i bet most people wouldn't know there you have it what you didn't know about alcatraz I got a trivia question for you guys on Alcatraz

After it was a federal prison But after it was shut down Who took over Alcatraz Much like in the movie The Rock U.S. Navy Hostile takeover of Alcatraz Hostile takeover of Alcatraz Pirates

I believe I don't you search this while I do this It was I like a Native American separatist movement rode out there, took over Alcatraz, made it their, you know, last stand. And I think it had to be invaded.

I can't remember if they negotiated a piece at the end of it. But I think I have the details roughly right on that two days. After Alcatraz Prison closed in 1963, the island was taken over by a group of Native American activists in 1969. The occupation was led by a group called Indians of all tribes who claimed the island under the terms of the 1868 treaty of Fort Laramie. Oh, maybe they abandoned it because it's like, I think they ended up abandoning it.

After 19 months. 19 months that they lasted there. It's because it's like impossible. You had the, you know, that's the thing about having prisoners there. You've got to, everything has to be imported, obviously, everything, like all the food, everything. I don't know if they did laundry on site. It's like ships going in and out all the time to, support that place, but it is awesome. And it would, to your, yes, tinfoil, it would be an

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