Will Cain Country - Kamala & Friends' 'Weird' Narrative For GOP! PLUS, Dr. Drew On Mob Mentality

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

Featuring Guest Host - Comedian Tom Shillue Story #1: Who is really weirder? Is it the liberals or conservatives? A conversation with the host of The Guy Benson Show on FOX News Radio, Guy Benson.  Story #2: Tom is joined by the Host of 'Ask Dr. Drew', Dr. Drew Pinsky to discuss the psychology of why people vote the way they do. Mob mentality is not a concept of the past. Story #3: The crew discusses whether or not a viral video is making fun of or advocating for Democratic policies.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Well, there it is. There it is, once again. This is Tom Shilu, the second day, filling in for Will Kane on the Will Kane show. And I'm, I mean, I had all the kinks worked out yesterday. Look at me. I'm like looking at the camera today. I looked at a little bit of yesterday's broadcast. And I looked like a little bit of a psycho because I was like, you know, kind of just.

staring off camera a little bit. And so, you know, this is how you get back into the swing of broadcasting. Tom Shull, in for Will Kane on the Will Kane show, and we have a great show today. Let's do a little, you know, teasing of the palate. Is that the correct word? I'm going to tease your... That's good. It's a little weird.

But we got Guy Benson coming up, and we have Dr. Drew. That's right. I don't even have to say his last name. Dr. Drew Pinsky. You say Drew, and you know who. But Guy will be with us right after I kind of set up what I want to talk about with Guy, and that is the weird meme. Democrats are trying to paint Republicans as weird, specifically J.D. Vance. They think J.D. Vance being weird and or creepy or whatever their word is, but usually it's weird, maybe followed by creepy or something like that. But the marching orders went out, and Democrats were on it. They were all saying weird. Kamala Harris said it. A top Democrat said it.

And we're going to play a clip here. And I want you to, it's funny because younger people are, they're more savvy on social media. And when they get their marching orders, they just do their, they do what they're supposed to do. And they call J.D. Vance weird. They call Republican white dudes weird. And then they get on with it. But then the older people, like Chuck Schumer, they don't want to say what they've been told to say because he's Chuck Schumer. So he has his own messaging.

So he says things like dangerous. I forget the word he uses it, but he doesn't want to say weird. He says his word, and then he says weird afterwards because he's been told to say weird. But you can tell he didn't want to say it. Okay, let's run the weird compilation. Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird. That's funny. These guys are just weird.

That's where they are. As weird and creepy as J.D. Vance. Super weird idea from J.D. Vance. Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's quite weird. They're just plain weird. Just plain weird. Just plain weird. That stuff is weird.

They come across weird, and then they start being weird. Yeah, they're weird. Being a really weird. He's such a weird of it. Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate. They're weird. Deeply and profoundly weird. They are weird.

These Republicans just being weird, it's just weird. It's really weird. Publican weirdness goes even deeper. He said a lot of things that are weird, a weird style that he brings. Okay, so that's the, did, was. Chuck Schumer in there? I couldn't tell if he was... He wasn't in that part. He had to cut it down for time. Yeah, I'm glad you cut it down because the other one was a little bit too long.

I was going to have to cut it off, but that was just enough. But just suffice to say, the old man had, he had a tough time saying the word weird, but then he did say it. And some of them improvised, and they kind of made it their own. I saw a weirdo, and then there was Republican weirdness. Okay, bringing sharp, non-weird analysis to this will be Guy Benson of the Guy Benson show. Welcome, Guy. You look good. Thank you, Tom. Hey. Yeah. You look, a little bit, kind of a little bit business casual. I'm a little, I feel like I might have made a mistake here, and I went too casual, but it's a warm day today.

And I had to walk to the train station because my wife was at exercise class, so she couldn't ride me to the train. And because it's warm, I put on a linen shirt, which I love. But you might know, Gwen Martyr, the Grand Dam of Fox News wardrobe, she's no longer here, but she was, she hated linen. And I always used to want to wear linen. She'd say, no linen. I don't like it. I don't like the way it looks on camera. And now that I'm seeing it, I feel like I know what she was talking about. Do you know what she was talking about? I'm unable to see you, so I will just take into consideration her professional opinion and agree with her, even though she no longer works at Fox. She's retired. She generally had a pretty good eye, pretty good taste. So I tended to just

go her way on such matters. But thank you for all the insights. I mean, we got the whole day of your routine all the way up to this very moment. I hope the exercise class went well for your wife. Yes. Well, she, they moved it to 930, which she likes 8.30 because she likes to really exercise early and then get to her day. But anyway, Guy, I know you're following this weirdness thing. And I find it actually a little weird to see them all kind of on script like that. What do you think? Well, another word that was used was creepy, and this is what's actually creepy, right? It's clear that someone maybe through a focus group or polling or whatever or just, you know, a lightning strike moment they decided, I know, let's cast the Republicans as weird. Let's go after J.D. Vance

that way. And then the hive mind just goes to work, where the word gets sentencing. out into the bloodstream or the ether and everyone just picks up on it. And that montage could have gone even longer. That was just a small sampling of what they've been doing leaning into this. And I mean, some of it I think is just projection, right? I mean, a lot of them fell for this completely fabricated nonsense story about J.D. Vance and the couch. And they're all just like still giddy like schoolchildren about this total lie that they either believed or fell for and fact checkers have confirmed that it's totally untrue, but at least we're talking about it. And that was, I think, one of the things.

Can you explain to people who, people like myself, who, uh, yeah, just to give you a guy, I don't know about the couch thing because it was so weird. I didn't want to search for it and find out whether it was true. Because there's something about, you know, having sex on a couch, I think, right? But, uh, it wasn't true. Oh, with a couch. Yeah. So someone does.

doctored up a fake page, my understanding is, doctored up a fake page of hillbilly elegy, in which J.D. Vance admitted that he, like, had sex with the couch. It's just, it's completely made up, but it made the rounds. It went viral. Yeah. And the left all started sharing it. And then they all kind of realized, well, actually, this is fake and not real, but it just kind of fits, right? It's fake, but it fits. And we, you know, we want to say he's weird, so let's go with weird and ha ha, look at this. And so I don't know what the rules are exactly, Tom, I guess when Kamala Harris picks her running mate, which we've been assured will be a white man. Now, we know nothing about picks in advance except for their sex and skin color. That's how it's been the last couple of years,

which strikes me as weird, quite frankly, actually. It's like, well, we're not going to reveal who we're picking for this very important position, whether it's VP or Supreme Court Justice, but we will let you know what their skin and genitalia are going to look like. That's a totally normal thing on the left right now as they point the finger and scream weird. But when she picks her white male of choice and rolls that person out, like, how does this work, Tom? Can you create like a burner Twitter account, tweet some completely made up rumor about this person? Let's say that he had sex with a traffic cone. Let's go with a traffic cone. That seems weird. And just put it on Twitter, then all right about it, debunking it in a fact check, but put a bunch of

bunch of traffic cone emojis in it. We can all make a bunch of memes and be like, ha ha, Mark Kelly or Josh Shapiro loves having sex with traffic cones. And that's not weird because that's their template here. It's bizarre. Yeah. So now I get the meme that, you know, and I've seen other things too. There were, now that you explained it, I have seen stuff on, on X, little excerpts from hillbilly elegy that are strange. You know, they start off with mountain do and then they go into something that's, you know, very illicit. And I thought, oh, that's fake, you know. So I guess this is, you know, because of the couch thing, they've done all sorts of reinterpretations of hillbilly elegy online, and that's where it all came from. So the thing

about it is. Yeah, they're just like doctoring up, doctoring up literal misinformation for giggles and fuzzies. And like even you had United States senators sitting on a couch, wink, making fun of J.D. Vance, because we're on a couch. Get it. Like, these are senators who are leaning into it. So that's, that's the play that they're making, a made-up couch sex story. And we're the weird ones. Yeah. We must understand. It's funny. So what do you think it comes from? Because I, I find J.D. Vance to be pretty mainstream in my life. I was very glad when Trump picked him. But you have a lot of people, like you said, they're senators. These are accomplished people in government. And they are saying things like, oh, you know, Trump made a mistake. Oh, I'm sure he's regretting. I think I just heard

Chuck Schumer say, I'm sure he regrets his mistake in picking J.D. Vance. But I don't understand the logic of that because from what I understand, Trump is the worst thing that's ever happened in U.S. politics. So how could picking someone who is actually a sitting senator who just won election in Ohio, how could that pick reflect badly on Trump? Because I thought Trump was the ultimate nightmare. It's all a little incoherent. J.D. Vance was not my top choice if I had to wave a wand, and I made clear why. I wrote about it. I talked about it. I want to hear it. Because I'm sorry. I should admit I didn't, I didn't see any of your articles on this, but there were a lot of people that on the right who didn't like J.D. Vance. Why didn't you like him? Well, it's not a matter

of liking or disliking him. And I also don't know how productive it is for us to talk about leading up to the choice why I made a few points because he's the choice and the way that he's being attacked, I think is really grotesque and absurd in some way. So I'd rather talk about that. I can send you my piece that I wrote about it, Tom, if you want. I just think that other people might have brought more to the table. Of course, everything changed because the Democrats changed their ticket in the middle of the race. Yeah. So there's that as well. But I just want to say this, because I saw earlier today, MSNBC was having one of their totally normal, not at all weird meltdowns that they have basically 24-7 on that channel, and they had one of their contributors

talking about how J.D. Vance just wants nothing but white children in America because of the great replacement racial theory, and they're a bunch of white supremacist, racist, and J.D. Vance is, he has a vision for just only white kids. And I'm like, he has biracial children. His own kids aren't white. What the hell is wrong with you? And yet, like, the party that's saying things like that, and there was, I didn't see any pushback to the point that was being made, like a really horrifically insulting, horrible thing to say, which is clearly just false in his own life, his own experience. And there was, like, no self-awareness. She spattered off and said it anyway. This is the party, and I'm sure you've seen this, Tom, holding these racial affinity segregation groups for Kamala Harris. Like, oh, it's going to, we can't define women, but it's so.

women for Kamala event, and it's whites only. But it's for progress, so that's the good kind of racial segregation. And that's the exact, the person who is showing up at a whites only Harris event is the exact same person who, at the drop of a hat, calls everyone else in their life a racist and decides that J.D. Vance is weird. Yeah, it's so true. I mean, J.D. Vance, essentially, he married someone who's kind of similar. you know, in background to Kamala Harris, isn't he? She has, is his wife of East Asian descent? Yeah, she's Indian American.

She's the daughter of immigrants. She's an accomplished attorney. She clerked for Brett Kavanaugh and John Roberts. She's extremely impressive in her own right. Clearly, they love each other. They have a beautiful family with three young kids, very commendable. I know, sadly, though, Mrs. Van, Even if she were in favor of Kamala Harris, which she's not.

But if she were, she wouldn't be eligible to show up at the white women for Kamala Harris' White's only event. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a shame from the people who shout weird at others. Again, it's like it's mind-blowing. So there was a, I think, white dudes or white men for Trump. Yes. You know, alternately titled those two things.

They had a big meeting online. and, you know, it attracted... For Harris. Yeah, what I say? Yeah, not Trump. White dudes, that's where my head goes. That's not allowed for Trump. Definitely not allowed for Trump.

So, you know, it's... Right, the only whites-only, racially segregated meetings have to be for the progressives. Yeah. Well, it's interesting you say that. You're like, these people who have all been into the identity politics and everything, they're all of a sudden hopping on this kind of white women and white men bandwagon. And I think it may be, because they're, They think that people like white males and MAGA supporters, Trump supporters, Red State people, identify with their whiteness in the same way that they do with whatever their group is.

You know, they think that appealing to whites by saying, hey, whites, you know, this is a group of whites, white males, is going to really charge people up. But my sense, you know, being a right-wing white male is that we never, when we get together, we don't talk about how white we are. Or any of that stuff. You know why? Why? Because that would be weird, Tom. That would be weird and racist, the thing that they call us. Yeah.

So we have a clip from the white dudes for Trump, I think, right? And some of the more prominent American citizens, aka Celebritize, are talking on it. Let's take a look at it. I'm not sure if you guys can recall that feeling you had on the night of Tuesday, November 8, 2000. 2016. I stood over my kids' bed and I wept. I wept because I felt like I let them down. I wept because they had the chance and we have the chance to have a female president for the first time in our lives and in the history of this nation. And instead, we put a man in office. who not only disdains women, but whose own wife can't look him in the eye. That was Josh Gad. He seemed to be sitting outside, and there was some palm fronds menacing him in the background.

But he talked about crying on election night. I think it sounded like a sad story. For some reason, he thought he was responsible, so he apologized to his. children. But there was a lot of this guy going on in this Zoom call, guys like Josh Gadd, guys like the Bradley Whitford, the actor from the West Wing. And it was a lot of, you know, I don't know if I can say this word. I don't want to say the P word. There were, there was a lot of wussies on there, I thought. Now, like a lot of guys talking about crying and being really, is wuss? Is that an offensive word guy? But I felt.

they were being wussies. Probably, but it doesn't, it doesn't bother me. No, it's, it's just like, get a grip. I saw some of these clips. I'm like, get a grip, gentlemen. What are you doing? Like, if you want to have, if you need to work through your feels, you can pay privately for therapy. You don't need to advertise it to all these other people, but I'm sure they were all just bobbleheading along, like, oh, yeah, I also did a lot of weeping. And even if I didn't, I should say that I did a lot of weeping. And I think what they had over on the ladies side of this thing, white women only, obviously, the whites only event, it was a lot of self-policing and condescending sort of like guilt trip stuff where this is a big thing on the left, where white women are demonized

by other progressives because they are seen as way too conservative adjacent. And so white women feel like they are, or at least liberal white women, progressive white women or felt like, or told to feel like they are, as a group of people, their identity classification are betraying the, sort of the idol of intersectionality, and they have extra work to do to atone for their whiteness and their sins. And so they have to zip it and listen only to women of color in particular. And it's your time to both shut up, but also put in the the work and convince other people around you. It's like, it's all this self-flagellation stuff as well. So it's like big, weird, racist group therapy sessions being totally treated as like,

look at this cool campaign outreach thing that we're doing. Look at all the excitement that we've got. I say play some of these clips for average people and I wonder if the weirdness meter starts to ping a little bit. I would say definitely. It's sufferable. That's what I really want to ask you in all of this is that is any of this obviously we've had an unprecedented information uh overload i mean really warfare since joe biden stepped down because they democrats were pretty demoralized and there wasn't much messaging at all coming out of uh the democrats except denial about the condition of joe now the second he stepped down the the kamala love and you know the kamalot or whatever that new york times cover was there's something about her and coconuts i don't really understand but

But the messaging went into overdrive. And my daughters, I have two teen daughters, 14 and 18, and they said to me last night, Dad, I think this stuff is working. If you look on TikTok, Kamala all of a sudden seems pretty cool. I think for, and they were saying, for their generation, now the 14-year-old is not, you know, a voting age, but the 18-year-old is. So they said, she is now cool on TikTok. Up until this time, my daughters were only aware of Kamala being. the woman who said, oh, I really love buses, and can you believe the moon is so, you know, close to us and all this other stuff.

So she was kind of a national joke. They say, because of this media onslaught, they said, Dad, you've got to look at TikTok. She's cool all of a sudden, and I think young people are going to fall for this. What do you think? Well, that's obviously what they're trying to do, right? What the news media is trying to do is ignore all of her flagrant vulnerabilities. She's a radical. She's not terribly talented.

She got absolutely crushed when she ran for president the first time for good reason. Her own party rejected her before she even got to the calendar year in which she was trying to become president. Didn't get a single vote. She didn't get to Iowa for a single vote. So she has the reputation as kind of this cringe factory lightweight. It's very well earned over the course of her political career. and she's been a career politician. And what they're now trying to do is say, like, ignore all of that.

Let's pretend like the many things that she said on camera didn't really happen or don't apply anymore. And let's just drag her across the finish line. We only have three months to do it. Let's make it a three-month honeymoon and not really delve in. We've got the reprieve. Joe was probably going to lose. We did everything we needed to to get rid of him.

And now mission two is to pull her across. That's what the news media is going to do. And then what the sort of social media activist crowd for young people is they're leaning into her cringe and like remixing it into these cool seeming things. Like when she talks about people falling out of the coconut tree and then bursts into her weird laughter when no one else seems to be amused, they're just taking that and like sticking it into popular songs and like making it part of why suddenly she's cool. They can just take a reality and try to change that reality. And I think for some people, maybe it'll work. For some people, maybe it won't. But I think the job for a Trump campaign and for Republicans and for conservatives and opponents of Kamala Harris for president, her own words, I think, really make the case against her in terms of being someone worthy of being president, someone up for the job.

And also someone who believes things that are kind of within the American mainstream, she fails both tests. and it's not us having to make assertions about her. It's us just like hitting the play button and letting her words play and speak for themselves. Yeah. Well, let's be prepared for the unprecedented four-month-long media information war, unlike anything we've ever seen. And we'll be turning to people like you, Guy, as we approach the election. Thanks for joining us. And I know you have to get off to your meeting because you've got your own show to do.

That's true. And I will not be wearing linen, even on the radio today. If you're watching Gwen. Exactly. I know. I feel guilty over the whole thing. All right, Guy Benson, thanks so much. The Guy Benson show, tune in, and we will see you soon. We're going to take a break, and we're going to be back with Dr. Drew Pinsky. This is Jimmy Phala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. just kidding it's only a three-hour show listen live at noon eastern or get the podcast at fox across america dot com from the fox news podcasts network hey there it's me kennedy make sure to check

out my podcast kennedy saves the world it is five days a week every week download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast Tom Shiloh, back with the Will Kane show. I am filling in for Will Kane, and we're having a great day. During the break, I was hearing ads for the quiz on the quiz. Fox. I think it was. Let me, I want to get that website, right. Quiz.com. Yeah, the Quiz.com. I just recorded one of those episodes. We have Rotate. I used to have my own quiz show on Fox Nation.

I think everybody remembers it, and they adored tuning in to that show every day. But now they've got this, thequiz.com, and you can do trivia every day. And I just recorded one myself. So I'm kind of part of that whole scene. All right. So I want to get to – we're still talking about weirdness in the Democrats. We've got Dr. Drew coming up, and I want to ask him about that. And also about the – essentially, you know, we talk a lot about psychology

and, you know, the – what gets people motivated to vote the way they do. and I want to talk about what the Democrats are doing, what their strategy is, and whether this whole thing is going to work. I ask Guy Benson, I don't know. To me, I look at this stuff, and it seems all quite silly to me. Seeing Democrats over and over say that, you know, Republicans are weird, especially when we've just come out of, you know, it's been for the past half decade, all we hear is about Trump and democracy, and it's like they change their messaging on a dime.

Are we still afraid, afraid of Donald Trump and the fact that he's going to be a dictator for life? Or are we afraid of people who are being weird and creepy? I don't know. Let's play another thing before we bring in, Dr. Do we have another one of those celebrities talking about their feelings. Maybe we have Brad Whitford. Go ahead. I keep saying over the last eight years, you know, if there is a god, she's a terrible writer. I mean, I have not been able to, if I walked into the West Wing Writers' Room and said, okay, this is going to be our Republican candidate, you know, a felon, an adjudicated rapist.

Wow. He had to put that word adjudicated in there. But let's get some thoughts from Dr. Drew Pinsky. He is on the line here, and we are, he's looking good in black, behind the microphone. Dr. Drew. Thank you, sir. It's good to have you here. Tom, good to see you. And I was just thinking to myself, man, they missed the whitest man in America.

It should have invited you. But I suppose that would have been, if they were going to have a gathering of translucent men, then you would be at the head of the class. Yeah. I mean, who, like, if we had a, I mean, they wouldn't invite me to their Zoom meeting anyway, but if they did. If they really want white men, you can't leave out Tom Shaloo, because the, the whitest man in America needs to be represented. That's all I'm saying. It's so true. And so we had Brad Whitford there, and there was one from the Hobbit there, Sean Aston.

He was talking about feelings. He said, you know, I think men have to learn to get in touch with their feelings. things. Is this, I mean, we're in 2024, Dr. Drew. You're from kind of my generation. We remember when there was kind of like a few prominent male feminists like Alan Alda, and they talked about how important it was to get in touch with our feelings and have close female relationships and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, these guys were few and far between. And I think that whole thing, to me, that ship has sailed. I think most guys, they know how to talk about their feelings. I mean, we all saw Jerry McGuire, you know, those two guys, you know, hugging after the

football game and just, I love you, man, and all that kind of stuff. So your average guy is in touch with his feelings. Am I wrong? Do we still need to, you know, get more in touch with our feelings? No, no, we, we, I was one of those guys with Alan Alda. I was, I was saying the female brain needed to be more represented and using both hemispheres is important. I was guilty. I was guilty of a lot of stuff, including using fear tactics that Dr. Fauci encouraged me to use during the AIDS pandemic. I have some apologies to make for some of the stuff I did. But some of it was, let's put it this way. It worked. It all was just too much and too far. And the point was well taken, but now the pendulum has swung too far. And the, that white gathering of, gathering of white men

is pushing me so far into the middle. Because guys, I love. Like, I love. Like, I love. love Josh Gadd. He's been a friend for many years. And to hear them waxing this way, I'm like, I don't, I don't want to be, I don't want to be a part of any camps anymore. I'm just going right into the middle. And I, and I thought I was a libertarian until I met Kat Timp. And I realized, oh, no, you have to not have a heart to be a libertarian like her. So, so I have a heart. So I'm not really a libertarian, but I'm just tired of the camps. I'm tired of the propaganda. I'm tired of the BS. I really am. And you were asking, what is this, what are these, these talking points to keep going around it's propaganda and propaganda works this is the problem tom is that in spite

of seeing it in spite of knowing what it is it still works this is the human condition and it's been used forever and with these new media outlets it can be used with great power and great persuasion and you might even say it's weird that we are so persuaded by all this stuff and i want to say something you might if i say something about the weird topic that you were you were just talking about with guy no i know i want to talk about it yeah so weird is think about it and this is uh la scott adams let's give him credit for this he brought this up last couple of days weird is a term that mean girls use in high school we react to it viscerally men when they walk up to a young lady i want to make contact and ask her out or share a drink and she turns him and goes oh you're weird

that is that is that is that it does not get deeper than that in terms of the wound it gives us but the problem with them using weird is you have to be attractive. We have to want to approach you for weird to work. And if we if you're weird and you're calling we are weird, it's just it's a sort of astonishing and you kind of hate that person for being weird and then calling you weird just for trying to be a human being and be nice and approach somebody. So I think this weird thing is not going to work. They will get off it quick. But you're absolutely right that they have coronated Queen Kamala and they have turned her from somebody that was not like to somebody that is literally the Messiah. And I just wonder how long that's going to go before somebody starts

questioning things like policy and what her actual political beliefs are. Or are we so dumb and are we so prone to that weird thing we call propaganda persuasion that we can't even talk about those things anymore. And if that's true, I blame the media and I blame social media also. Yeah. You know, it's interesting because part of that Scott Adams thing really is it's a feminine thing. The idea of calling something weird, when you get a bunch of guys together, they're not talking about someone that's weird. And if they are, sometimes they do it with admiration because someone who's weird is outside of the pack. They think unlike anyone else. And so women kind of you know, to generalize, they kind of, they gaggle together and they, you need to be part of the

flock, whereas guys, it's not that important for guys to be part of the crowd, is it? Well, there are two words that women use constantly that men never use. One is weird, we talked about. And the other is annoying. Somebody is annoying. And men, people aren't annoying to men. We either like him or don't like him or say, whatever. It makes me angry. whatever but annoying and annoying is a very significant sort of experience for for women and when men are annoying they are they are relegated to the trash pile they are not to be around they are to be ostracized and let's remind ourselves ostracision ostracizing i beg your pardon is something that humans use through our evolutionary heritage as the main means of shaping culture and exerting power and

influence. Because if you're out in the Savannah and you're part of a tribe and that tribe ostracizes you, you and your offspring, particularly for women, this is very powerful, are going to die. You're not going to survive. So becoming part of the group and consensus and getting along and, you know, power dynamics within the group and all are very important to avoiding being ostracized, which our brains are highly attuned to. You know, we have all kinds of primitive aspects of our mind left over from our evolutionary heritage we do not have to give into them this is something i've been chanting for 20 years you have to acknowledge they're there like the differences between males and female you know human males and human females yeah uh that those biological differences

have effects on the brain not all brains not all the same but in general ways there are differences amongst the brains and you do you have to you have to understand acknowledge embrace and then shape and change them as you may but to pretend they don't exist they will come out in not so great ways and as my friend adam corolla says who's calling me right now thank you adam for calling in the middle of a broadcast um we're going to end up with safe spaces and octagons that's going to be the world we live in is it good people either going to florida or california and you're going to end up hiding in safe spaces or going towards octagons and expressing this thing that has been repressed yeah it's so true because you know something

like, you remember Dr. John Gray, men are from Mars, women are from Venus. This was a massive bestseller, and people used to go to his, you know, seminars and things like that. And then he became kind of a joke, like, oh, Dr. John Gray, like, you know, men are from Mars, women are from Venus. But the thing is, he was not a macho man. Like, oh, you know, men are, you know, men are warriors and you have to, you have to respect that. He was like, no, no, no, no. Yeah, he said men. He was just, he was pointing out the, the thinking differences, the motivational priorities. Listen, I, I actually shared a podium with that guy in several occasions. And I was on a daytime TV show called men are from ours, women are from Venus.

And it was a very hot topic in the, in the, throughout the 90s, frankly, as people were trying to understand each other and come to terms with some things. And, and by the way, you know, a lot of that was around empowering women to have choice in the day. situation and to be able to be empowered in the workplace and not be feel you know less than in some way and and again good it good really important all these things are so important all everything DEI all these things are really important provided they don't go too far and even if they go too far they will have done something good but let's let's acknowledge when maybe things are being over deployed that's that's all I'm I'm worried about like we get back towards a rational, pragmatic world.

And I actually become a little bit optimistic lately. I don't even know why. I've been feeling bad for, well, certainly through COVID and since. And like I brought Kat up a minute ago, I'm like her, I can't get over what the government was able to do to us during COVID. I can't get over it. Yeah. But even so, I feel.

And by the way, the full impact of COVID has not yet even been spelled out. We don't, we, it's affecting us to this day. I promise you. Not just the illness and the vaccines, but the, the isolation and all it went with it um but i i became optimistic recently and maybe it's because i'm seeing it's i'm getting forced deeper and deeper into the center and so i'm looking at things on all sides and it it's it's it's making me be more pragmatic and the more pragmatic i get the more i see a little pragmatism leaking into the conversations here and there and

that makes me very optimistic yeah you know the thing for me in covid you know obviously there's you can get into there's in so many different things from medical freedom to the way that people were, you know, ostracized, you know, forcing children to be home, you know, the lack of human interaction. You know, I even think face coverings are immoral because you need to see faces in order to have a, you know, humanity. How about especially for little kids? Especially. Yeah. So even putting aside all of those details, one of the lingering things that has stayed with me is the fact that I was just let down, my vision of a you know, if you had asked me, I remember traveling to China years ago, you know, not that late

2007. You heard it here first guys, Tom Schlu, Chinese operative. Yeah, exactly. I just went over there, you know, twice, two trips over there. But people were wearing masks and the, you know, the entire, you know, Chinese society, it's very regimented and people follow the rules and they, you know, they, so I remember saying to the guy that I was traveling with, I said, you know, that would never happen in the United States. You know, thank God we would never have a society where people walked around with masks on their face all the time, you know. I just thought it would never happen. The idea that people would be, they would shut down business. That was another thing that happened to China. You know, there was a whole block, city block, and the government

was taking control of all these businesses, and they shut them all down to make way for some other, you know, state project. And I said, that could never happen in the U.S. You know, we have businesses are allowed to stay open. We have something called freedom, economic freedom. Well, it all went away. And so I didn't live in the society I thought I lived in. I thought that United States and countries like England and Australia were freedom-loving countries. And, you know, Australia was worse than the United States, but I was amazed that it was more than 50% of the country, well north of 50% of the country, was willing to do whatever. ever the government told them. Did that surprise you?

It's back to our original conversation. It's the power of propaganda. If one isn't safe, nobody is safe. Remember them chanting that one? And look, and they couldn't, no one could be rational about anything. You try, when I got crushed for trying to get people to be rational, just appealing to their rationality, to try to put thing in a measured response, much like the Great Barrington Declaration, which now looks like a genius document, those people were all to be crushed and their careers ruined and their reputation. ruined this was an insanity and people that engaged in that in those behaviors need to really look at

themselves and they're not they're still see they're often feeling self-righteous about what they did and they need to re-examine themselves and understand they were a victim of propaganda and panic and delusion and hysteria and hysteria is when they grip big populations end in very bad places we have safeguards in places against that they failed they failed and we never And it came through public health and the power of public health in an emergency. And we need to, we need to remedy that somehow. So it never happens again. And the reality is it is time for everybody.

And I tell you yourself, excuse me, it's more, my morning cough. Here we go. It's incumbent upon everybody. I never thought I'd be, I never dreamed I'd be in this situation at this stage of my life. But we must fight for our right to speak. It is the numeral uno priority for in every should be on everyone's priority list right now. Defend your right to have an opinion no matter how crazy it is and to speak it out loud. I don't, I will defend everyone's right to say anything.

And if we don't do that, we will lose that right. And it's super clear now that it was more fragile than we realized, especially in the day of social media. Social media encourages mobs and mobs are dangerous. particularly when narcissism takes hold in a population. And I'm here to tell you that we all have now narcissistic features, and this is something measured worldwide. And as such, we are prone to projection, envy, and empathic failure. And in a mob, we will feel righteous and gratified.

And we must examine ourselves when we behave like that. And I would encourage, I'm apologizing everywhere I can. Every mistake I've made, I want to apologize for. And I make a, I apologize directly to the people that I like, Naomi Wolf, I got some of her stuff wrong. So I brought her on to my, by the way, I do a streaming show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday at 3 o'clock. Please be there. Ask Dr. Drew, subscribe at Rumble. It's a great show me if I didn't bring that up. It's one of the great, it's one of the great new media shows that are out there.

Thank you. It has been, it started us being just the French underground, giving information about COVID. And at that time, it was in the darkest hours of the lockdowns. I was just calling it like I saw it. And pretty soon we were realizing that we were a source of information that you couldn't get anywhere else. And we were correct. And I thought, wow, I wonder who else has been silenced that has some interesting information. I started interviewing all the silenced doctors and professionals and scientists.

Naomi, of course, is one of them. And I was very dismissive of her talk about the impact of the vaccine on menstrual function and women. I was like, I literally, this is how sexist I was. I was like, Naomi, the wind blows, women's periods change. Come on now. Come on, I'm a doctor. I see it all the time. And I was so pathetically dismissive and sexist.

I had to call her back in and go, Naomi, I am so sincerely, this is ridiculous. I have to fall on my sword. Not only did I not contemplate that you might be on to something, but I was dismissive and sexist about something that has massive impact on young women in ways I'd not even thought about and that she was promoting. And you know how she is now also one of the silent, one of the canceled people. And I told her, I said, you know, Naomi, I feel like you've, what have you come on to here? What are you doing?

She goes, I'm doing what I've always done. I'm fighting for women's freedom. Yeah. And I thought, oh, we're all just doing what we've always done. It's just a brand new context. And so maybe we're doing a little louder, a little more clearly. But it's in, I really encourage everybody. It's really important.

Study your history. Study revolutionary French. Study early 1930s Germany. You will be shocked at how familiar it all looks. to you at a time when that seemed like a fairy tale to me throughout my entire life now it's like oh now i understand how they became prison guards now i understand how the jacobins did their thing now i understand it now robespier's committee that perpetrated the the terror on the humans you saw marian ternet with her head off singing at the olympic ceremony opening yeah well she and many

thousands of her compatriots had their heads cut off because of the the committee for public health was the Salue Publique, the public health committee who decided you were not healthy for the public, we need to take your head off. So worry about when public health becomes the centerpiece in a government's overreach. Worry. It's happened before. That's remarkable. Public health. And now, you know, public health was, it did actually have a head respectability. But I think, you know, in these, in the post-pandemic period, I think so few people believe in anything these people say now. Good. Good. That's good. That's a good thing. That's progress. Yes. It's progress. That has become a political instrument, not a medical instrument. I don't, I listen, the fact that my profession, I'm so shocked. I'm so shocked by my profession at what has been going on. It's been incredible. And some of the behavior is reemerging right now. I think something about the presidential race is creating people to sort of double down again to some of their old camps. I'm seeing that on social media. And I'm hoping that blows past. as we begin to have real conversation about real issues

and get more honest about these ad hominem ridiculous attacks that people have been so prone to. They should, it's disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. And by the way, disgust is a word you should cultivate everybody. Only when you feel it. But just think about some of the things that's going on these days and you should be disgusted. And disgust is a very powerful emotion and you should use it.

I love that. Well, do you think, you know, we're talking, about the medical disinformation and everything that happened, and people are now less trustful of, you know, all sorts of authorities. Yeah, it's unfortunate. But, hey, it's our fault. We've got to earn it back. But as a result of that, do you think we're coming into this campaign season, and I was talking to Guy Benson about the unprecedented, the next four months are going to be an information warfare like no one has ever seen? Do you think that that's going to rub off in other areas? We're just talking about the campaign now. That's what I just told you. I just told you, it's getting people are doubling down

some of their old stuff, their old behaviors and stuff. But you know what? We see it now. We see you. We see the hot girl technique. We see the propaganda. Now, the problem is, even when you see it, it still works. But you can at least call it out. And in addition to feeling disgust, the other really important thing to do that does fight propaganda, mockery. You must mock it. Okay, hot girls. You would think we're weird. Okay. Really? Now you're a hot girl in high school really yeah so okay great technique everybody and it's like it's just to call it out mock it mocking is the order of the day it's the only it's the only antidote to this stuff and it'll be it'll be whack them all it'll move over to something else and you'll have to mock that and just but get used

to it and get good at it and do it frequently and often and on social media wherever you can speak your mind i think that's the power of gutfeld he spends his whole life mocking and so the whole team here. Well, it actually is. You're right. That's exactly correct. And that's why people are sort of drawn to it. And that's why it has effect. And it's a little bit, that's why we're all sort of like to go on the show. He goes, and I'll be honest, he says stuff. Sometimes I'm sitting there as a guest on, you know, in one of those four chairs. And sometimes I think, oh, my God, he's going too far. I don't, I'm not comfortable being here. And then we move on. And we talk more, we end up, we all get an opinion and we talk about things. Yeah. And you can make, that's it. So you make

mistakes. And you, you say, So you were a little bit sexist, and then... It was a lot sexist. I was ridiculous. It was pathetic. Yeah. It was disgusting. Okay.

And I corrected course by calling the person in that I was dismissive to and apologized probably too much. I was probably disgusting in my apology. But that's the thing is that you were allowed to do it. If you were canceled by everybody and removed from social media, then you wouldn't have a chance to have the mea culpa. Right. That's why you have to let people...

Well, that's, that's the power of public, isn't that the power of free speech? It's a, it's a course correcting instrument. Yeah. And there is, there's madness of crowds, which we are prone to, and there's wisdom of crowds. Possible to have both. Yeah. And we need to lean into the wisdom, and we need to mock and address the madness. Before I let you go, I want to ask you this.

This is, when you were talking about, you know, the French Revolution, it made me think that people are having trouble now. a friend of mine posted on Instagram the other day, she said, is anyone like me having trouble reading a book? She starts a book and she can't finish it. And then all these people were chiming in. I haven't been able to, I used to read, you know, one book a week. Now I read one a year. Is, are we, you know, in real time, are we seeing us become a illiterate society because of these devices? What do you think? Well, the answer is yes, right? I mean, the, the, the, the people are telling you that it is so and like everything it is then incumbent upon us to recognize that and then adjust course to push against it uh anybody who is six is successful in this world

i've noticed and you'll you go check me on this the one habit of successful people other than sort of working out and getting enough sleep and getting proper nutrition all the usual stuff number one reading reading reading reading and i personally go through like spasms of reading where i read a ton of stuff and then i and then i go and this is the this is the seductive part then i'll sort of come off that and go more towards podcasting and audio learning and things like that because i can because i can dual task when i do that so maybe dual tasking is a problem i should be just focusing but right now i'm reading a whole bunch of eric larsen books about guess what early 1930s Germany about early civil war south and get and I had been in a very deep reading binge about

the French Revolution because I noticed I my French is pretty good and I was listening to French history Lex on on audio I was listening to in French by French historians and I noticed they started going towards this topic of now all this stuff we have canceled they've canceled everybody in their past maybe this maybe they're not well maybe it wasn't as simple as we thought it was Maybe there's more to this story. And by the way, they're all part of what it is to be French. I thought, oh, you guys are reconsidering what it is it is to be French because you're about to, you feel like you're losing it. And then, then came Marie Le Pen's party, who made that explicit.

And a lot of French people are resonating with that. And I, again, just read your history, buddy. It just, you got to get a grip on where we are. We have not taught history. We particularly have not taught American history. If you don't want to read American history, read a little revolutionary history, read a little, you know, read Eric Larson's books. He gets deep into these stories, and you'll see how things go. One of the things I was shocked about the 1930s Germany book was the word hysteria was used several times.

And I never thought about the Nazi movement being at hysteria. And of course, it was. And it's always hysteria that people are whipped into that cause these insane group actions. Yeah. And Eric Larson, he's the one who wrote Thunderstruck. and the devil in the white city right yeah great author i love his his use of you know he has a very cinematic way of presenting it's not just cinematic you're you're coming you're coming it's extraordinary historical detail yeah but coming at it through one group little little family or

person's experience yeah you know this thing like the devil in the white city this this this mass murderer is moving along and you're following him as the chicago fair comes into chicago yeah it's It's brilliant, brilliantly done. Yeah. Great. Okay. Dr. Drew, I love it. Thanks for joining us here. Lots of wisdom, as always. Hopefully, I will see you. We get to see each other when we do gut-felt together. Speaking of which, they never did the Parkinson's. I was testing you for Parkinson's as, as President Biden. Did they ever air that? They never aired it. I gave them all the footage. That was so explicit. It was so specific to the Parkinsonism. That's what I was doing.

I know. We're showing how Parkinsonism was manifest, bringing out how. he has all these Parkinsonian features. And we did that like four months ago. Yes. We did it. And then I handed off the footage to them. And the thing is, if we said, let's do it while, while Drew is in town, we'll do a pre-tape, you know.

But if you don't do it for that night, Greg forgets about it. And then he, you know, that's, that's a trouble. We should do it. I'm going to be in town about them three or four weeks again. And we'll do it. Maybe we should do it as sort of a historic look back. You know, like, look how, look how, they were, sharp as attack, no problem. not seeing a Parkinsonian doctor,

and yet you brought out how ridiculous that was through me doing a basic neuro exam around Parkinsonian features. Well, he's still president. That's the thing. People text me and they say, oh, I guess you're not going to be doing Biden anymore on Gutfeld.

I'm like, well, I should be doing it more. He's the president. I know. It's hysterical. It's so weird. We are so weird. We are so weird, right? We are.

But it is wrong about what kind of weird we are. The weird we are is that we are, that what they're manifesting and that they get swept into propaganda. That's weird that we are so prone to propaganda. You know what? They're right. You know what? That's the other way to deal with BS like this is to lean into it. You know what? You're right. We are weird. Humans believe propaganda. That's weird. And you guys are with us on that. All right. Dr. Drew, thanks so much for joining us. Say hi to your wife. I'll let you get back to Adam Crolla. He's texting you. He's calling me. Okay. This is Tom Schult. in for Will Kane on the Will Kane Show,

and we'll be back with final thoughts after this. Hey, I'm Trey Gowdy, host of the Trey Gowdy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now at foxnewspodcast.com. Thank you, checking his phone as he fills in for Will Kane on the Will Kane Show.

Why am I checking my phone? Not because I'm addicted to social media. I wanted to get the name of this social media influencer because for our final segment here today, I want to pose a question. Is this real? Is this woman the real deal in that her name is Angela Belcomino? She is a bold lib. It says it on her, you know, her bio right here. She's a bold lib, and she says, join the bold lib army, and she's selling merchandise.

You can buy bold lib t-shirts for $26 a pop. But when you look at her videos, you think to yourself, these are so dead on. I don't know if they're a parody. So let's play a little of a bold lib. Being child free threatens the patriarchy. We don't need no more. man, we can do everything he can. Busted.

I'm a bold lift. Taylor's on my side. I'm a bold lift. Magna starts to cry. What? I'm a bold lift. And Taylor's on my side. Yeah, she is.

I'm a bold lift. Maga starts to cry. Okay. Now, as I'm playing this, I'm almost thinking like, You know, should I be embarrassed here? Is it not like, is the audience saying, Shaloo, what are you kidding me? Of course it's a parody. Because as I play it right there, it almost is like, there are so many signals that she's

not really a bold lib, that she's a red state Republican doing a character. You've found out she's an actress. Is that right, guys? You know, what have you found out about her and you're just doing some searches? So I was doing some research because I don't like to fall for these things. Yeah. If it's parody. I found out she's actually an actress

and she's been in some roles so I feel like this is kind of like a character she's playing which makes a lot of sense but she's spot on with what she's playing but you know I'm an actor I've been on I was on law and order

true you know I was in the film mystery team with Donald Glover so you can look up I got an IMDB page it's pretty impressive and I did you know I sung in a barbershop quartet with Jimmy Fallon

So you could look and you'd be like, well, that guy, he's given his right-wing opinions. It's got to be a character. Are you trying to tell us something? Are you just playing a character, Mr. Tom Shaloo? I mean, it could. So just being an actor or an actress doesn't mean that your opinions are false. Because you got someone like Gina Carrano, right? Or Gia or Gina, whichever her.

The gal that was on the Mandalorian and she's suing Disney because they fired her for having, I mean, they weren't even right-wing opinions. She was just being, you know, a freedom-loving American, and they fired her from the show. So she's got opinions. She's not a parody account. And, of course, she's definitely an actress. But the thing is, this gal, if she is a parody, what's it doing? It's not like she's, I think she's actually creating liberal voters.

So if it's a parody, I don't think she's a right-wing activist. Like, Libs of TikTok, for instance. Lips of TikTok is a kind of parody account. At this point, it's not really. She's like your, you know, she's your basic conservative thinker at this point. But she started off featuring, you know, just, you know, liberals, you know, spouting their own thing.

So it was kind of like making fun of liberals by showing exactly what they say, right? Is this girl like that? Or is she a combination? of the both. So that's the thing is, I think she has to be one of three things. One, she's a sincere liberal who makes, you know, videos trying to get other liberals turned on. And, you know, bold lib, I think that has 30 million views, that bold lib video. Why? Because people are trying to figure out if it's real or not, you know? It's obviously not, they're not tuning in for the

musical talent, right? I think most people are tuning in to kind of laugh at it. And, and and say, look at this pathetic catwoman or something like that, right? She has another one that's got 40 million views where she's just dancing at a nightclub, and she's saying, I'm 42, I'm childless, I'm living my best life, and people are like, you know, saying to her, you know, this is saying the opposite of what you think it says. So I don't know which one it is. You know, we've got, if we can get some feedback, what do you think our viewers are going to say about? this. People are saying cringe. That was cringy and weird. Yeah. Bad rap. It's bad. Definitely

bad. It's so bad, in fact, though. It's great. It draws eyeballs. That, yes, it's so bad that that's what makes me think it's a parody. It reminds me of like a lonely island. S&L's bit. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's good. The production quality is funny. I don't know even where you would get that beat. Because if you, if you open up, you know, final cut pro and you take, you know, your basic, you know, beats, they're not going to be that stupid beat from 1989. No, it's like from a Casio keyboard. You hit that one button, it's like, do, do, do, do, do, do.

Yeah. So, I don't know. I don't know if we'll ever figure this out or what her, what her angle is. Because I would, so, do you think that Camilla Harris would want her to show up at one of her events? That shit.

Oh, my God. But that'd be great. But, like, it really isn't for real. and she shows up and does it, that would be weird. Yes. So what do we think? I'm going to say a combination of the two. I don't think that she is a, like, that she votes Republican.

I'm assuming she doesn't vote Republican. If she's an actress, politics probably are not her first love. Most people who are actors, they would just like politics to go away so they could, you know, do their movies and have their career. but she may be just an actress who is obviously she's in her 40s maybe her career is not going the way that she wanted she's not getting the roles she wanted so she's created this role herself and she's using it to gain fame so maybe she's apolitical so she's not really a bold lib but then again she's not a right-wing Republican who's making fun of bold lips what do you think of my theory yeah i was i was going to go with she's maybe a little left of

center, but probably heavily disinvolved with the day-to-day of politics. And I think the number one goal here is to drum up as many views and get as much notoriety as possible. Yeah. Patrick, what do you think? I think it's strictly straight trolling. So like, there are some accounts out there. I'm not going to say which ones because I don't want to, you know, say. But, you know, they like they troll people they get they get people riled up and she probably leans to the left and she knows like what will get people riled up on the right and we'll get people on the left to kind of like support her yeah and that's what she does she's she's doing it just for the clicks i don't think she like i don't think she's political at all i think she's doing this for fun entertainment yeah

i just think it's like a goofy fun thing i think for instance there's i think it happens more on the left than on the right because these uh these these krasenstein brothers who were on X, right? They are, I think they really are liberals. And from what I understand, Elon Musk pays them because they're creators for him. So he wants them to give a liberal viewpoint because Elon knows there's a lot of right-wing people on Twitter. And he definitely wants to have, you know, liberals doing their thing. But they don't strike me as being anything but trolls. They post things just to get engagement, not to create real talk and things like that, you know. So money. When you're, when you're paid by the view, too, on Twitter or TikTok, it definitely sort of incentivizes some of that

behavior. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. Somehow I don't have, I'm not, you know, I'm not geared for all this kind of stuff. I don't know any posts of mine that have ever gone viral in that way because I just don't have that kind of like sensational gene, you know. I just kind of do my thing and then, well, I guess, you know, I do the Joe Biden. So those things take off pretty well. That's good. and, you know, I'll do the Joe Biden bit for Gutfeld, and then I post it on my own account, and, you know, they'll get, to me, it's pretty respectable when something gets 28,000 views. Come on. For, you know, a guy's shooting a dumb video in his, in his bathrobe? I think that's not bad. So, guys, how do we do? I think this is my second day of filling in, but is Will Kane coming back tomorrow? No, he's back Monday. We have Kennedy filling in tomorrow. Oh, Kennedy. She kind of rules the world. She does.

She saves it, too. Yeah. Now, that's it. She saves the world. Fantastic. She would have been a good guest for me. That's true. We'll have to think of that.

Next time. Okay. Next time we're on there. And all the fans, thanks for tuning in. And hopefully, we'll be back in good shape soon on the Will Cain show with the real Wilcane. But we got Kennedy coming up, and I'm going to go change by linen shirt. We'll see you later. Listen ad-free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple Podcast, and Amazon Prime members, you can listen to this show, ad-free on the Amazon music app.

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