Will Cain Country - Kamala's Border Failure! PLUS, The Truth About Fentanyl Getting In

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Featuring Guest Host - FOX News National Correspondent, Griff Jenkins Story #1: Griff opens up about covering the border and just how brutal the crisis has gotten. Does Vice President Kamala Harris bare the brunt of the responsibility? Story #2: Did former President Donald Trump hurt his chances at the NABJ conference? Was he treated unfairly by the "journalists" in attendance? What does "gentle parenting" have to do with politics? Featuring FOX News and OutKick contributor, host of Getting Hammered podcast, Mary Katherine Ham. Story #3: The crew discusses the Zyn movement and Griff shares what made Gabriel Medina's Olympic surfing moment so special.  Tell Will what you thought about this podcast by emailing [e-mail] Subscribe to The Will Cain Show on YouTube here: Watch The Will Cain Show! Follow Will on Twitter: @WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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filling in for my great friend Will Kane, honored to be in this studio while Will is out on vacation in Hawaii. I highly suspect he will be doing something that I care most about in life. There is work, family, all the other responsibilities of life, and then they're surfing. And he and I got to be good friends because of surfing. He being an accomplished surfer along with his brother, who I understand is an even better surfer. And, of course, me and on Fox and Friends weekend working with him some, and we talk a lot about surfing. And we're going to get to talk about the Olympics and that amazing photo of three-time world champion,

Gabriel Medina, suspended in the air over chopes or Teahapu, as it's known, the Olympic site for surfing this year. But here we are starting off the Will Kane show, and I'm happy to be here because, you know, I started, for anyone that doesn't know, and you probably don't because you're not as old as I am, I started in radio. In the 90s, I started Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North's radio show, Common Sense Radio with Ali along the way. The late Roger Ailes asked me to help out with Fox Radio, and so I helped launch Fox Radio in the Tony Snow Show, the great late mentor of mine. former White House press secretary for George W. Bush, former host of Fox News Sunday, Tony Snow, who wanted to do a radio show. And the studio I'm sitting in now in D.C., a great penly portrait of Tony Snow here hanging over the Tony Snow radio show. It's a very special honor to be here,

not only because my friend Will Kane asked me to sit in for you for today, but also to be in the same studio on microphones held by some of the people that I admire. the greatest, but one thing has changed since I did radio. And I was a little nervous about what I would come and talk to you guys about because Will, what makes this show so special is his unique perspective and his sort of thought-provoking interviews, long-form style with his guest to go beneath the fold, not a reporter that only gets 90 seconds, two minutes to do it, but really engage the topics that we're all talking about. But what we did some of that back in the Tony Snow and All the North Days, what's changed and what really got me excited is right

before we started this show, I spit out my Zen. And Dan popped in my ear and said, no, Will has a Zen in every show. So this is the first radio show I have ever done now officially declared just a minute into it as my favorite radio show on planet because I have a Zen in and I'm going to leave it for the entire show. Here we go. This one. Is that true, guys, that Will has Zen in during this?

Yeah. He's talked about it. You know, sometimes he has that, you know, has that it. He's got a scratch to put it in. And it soothes you when you're doing interviews and doing monologues and things like that. Hey, listen, it is a stimulant, if you will, it really gives you energy more than anything. And, you know, I am a full confession. I am, I think, like maybe Will, once a child that dipped skull in Copenhagen and long since forgot it.

And then along came Zen. My eldest daughter, graduated at University of Georgia, her boyfriend, had a can of her. I was like, what's that? He's like, oh, I was like, dip. I'm like, that's not dip, son. Let me tell you. I tell you what dip is about and why I had to give it up 20 years ago. I was tearing my mouth up.

Now Zen gets me through it. And here's a full confession. Hopefully none of my TV bosses are watching. But, you know, when I was covering last week, the anti-Israel protest, it turned violent while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyahu was in that joint session of Congress. I was in the middle of getting peppers sprayed and shoved around and cursed at on live television. And, you know, in between the hits, I would occasionally throw in his end, kind of keep alert, keep my energy going. And they came to me suddenly because all of a sudden a spasm of violence broke out and we're flagging the control room.

And I did like a three-minute hit getting yelled at, had a Zen in? whole time. Forget to spit it out. Com as a cucumber. Broadcasting live from Zimbabwe. Who knew that radio would evolve and become even better because of Zen? And I applaud Will for having one in. I hope he never takes it out.

I know I'm not going to. But let me tell you a little bit about what I came to talk about in this first section. And that is the border. I got back late last night. I was out in Nogales, Arizona yesterday, interviewing the CBP Commissioner Troy Miller for an upcoming special that will premiere on August 14th on Fox Nation. And by the way, you can catch the Will Cain Show on Fox News.com, on Fox News, YouTube, on Fox News, Facebook, and everywhere else in between. But on Fox Nation, I'm going to have this special on fentanyl. Because fentanyl is

different than any other drug. The DEA says it's the biggest drug threat the country's ever faced. The commissioner, Miller, told me it's the biggest challenge CBP has ever faced. Because you've got a synthetic opioid being created. But it didn't start yesterday. The opioid crisis was three decades in the making, and the game changer was when China started sending the precursor materials to Mexican cartels, who turned it into pills and powder form and brought it across. You talk about two milligrams, just two milligrams of fentanyl,

about the weight of a mosquito is enough for a fatal dose. Hundreds of thousands of Americans are dying in every city and every state in this country. And so the border crisis now, when they say the border crisis is in every state, it is when you look at fentanyl. And so I was in Nagales, Arizona interviewing Commissioner Miller. I'm going to interview, hopefully, the DEA administrator as well for this piece, and we're going to lay out why it's such an important topic. And it doesn't get as much attention as it should, because it's one of the United States. those crises that really transcends politics, and it's not Democrat or Republican, or, you know, it affects everyone.

It doesn't, fentanyl doesn't discriminate by class or race. It strikes everyone from the rich and poor to black, white, Asian. It doesn't matter. And until we get a handle on it, and the deck is stacked against us, we are in serious peril in this nation. fentanyl is the number one leading cause of death for Americans between the age of 18 to 45. And if that doesn't sober you up and make you think that it belongs at the top of a newspaper headline every single day, then I don't know what is. And it was fascinating because we've talked so much about security and the assassination attempt on former President Trump. But when Commissioner Miller showed up at the border, there was all kinds of security.

looked even more than what a presidential would have 15 guys, some of them armed to the tilt because we were doing an interview right there in Nagales, Arizona, at the border where just on the other side, there's not even a river, you're just right into Mexico. And the security guys told me, they say, you look right there just on those rooftops, on those hills along that fence line. There are cartel guys, Senaloa cartel guys looking at them, and what they were so concerned about was the recent arrest of El Mio, one of the co-founders with El Chapo of the Sinaloa cartel.

El Mio's point guy for fentanyl from four or five years ago when they first started to really capitalize on the vulnerability of this nation being addicted to opioids and producing in mass that fentanyl and bringing it across. The guy, Sergio Valenzuela Valenzuela, known as Gio, is the plaza boss in Nogales, Mexico, the sister city across the border. So in the wake of Elmio's capture, you've got the guy still in charge that is the head of the fentanyl crisis just on the other side. It's a little bit of a frightening thought interviewing the commissioner, knowing that perhaps some of the Sinaloa guys were watching that interview and the security risk that comes with that. But when I was there, it really made me think, what an opportunity to have more than that.

the 90 seconds or two minutes to talk to this audience and tell what I can't tell so often in such a tight TV spot, and that is the story of the border as I know it. I started almost 15 years ago in Arizona, in Nogales, and in Douglas, Arizona, in the Tucson sector in 2010, because then Republican Governor Jam Brewer was trying to pass a law called SB 1070 that was going to deputize her state and local law enforcement to check an immigration status for potential removal because they were seeing an increase in migrants. Now, in 2010, the entire number of apprehensions borderwide was just over 500,000. It was like 516, 517,000. We have had more than 2 million for the past three fiscal years under this administration. We've had,

under the Biden-Harris administration more than 1.6 million known gotaways. So we apprehended a half a million in 2010 when I first started this. And yet we've got two million that we apprehended in another 1.6 million over three years that came into the country. We don't know who they are, where they're from, what their intention is, and worst, where they are today, posing not only a public safety. threat and you only need to look at Lake and Riley or Rachel Moran or Jocelyn Nungare, the 12-year-old raped and murdered in Houston by an individual from El Salvador.

That's one of the root cause countries that Borders-R. Harris was tapped with dealing with. But back in those days, when I was with the Border Patrol, we'd go out and we'd apprehend a group and they would say, guys, we got 18 here, 18 illegal aliens crossing right now. I look back now at my coverage, Bill Malusia and I and others, when we're seeing a thousand a day on our cameras, on our drone cameras, streaming across in places like Del Rio Eagle Pass. We're recently out in Hacomba, California. and you think 18 back in those days now you see a thousand and you think about what the borders come and in the course of my coverage you know back during those early days in Arizona it was obviously a much more manageable situation that's why j johnson under obama the dHS secretary

said a thousand a day was a crisis now of course at the height you've got three four 4,000. But when you look back and I think about when I was covering the border during the Obama years, you had the unaccompanied crisis. And back in those days, I first met Alejandro Mayorkas. He was the director of the USCIS. And he wanted to do an interview with me. We had met in Washington at actually a pickup flag football game on Thanksgiving morning at all things. He said, do you do? I was like, I'm a reporter for Fox. He said, oh, gosh, I'm the director of USCIS. You should come and do a tough interview with me. Sit down. Let's talk about immigration. I said, okay, let's do it. And he, we did a story, a package about how immigrants come through the process of becoming

legally citizens, legal American citizens. And it always stuck with me. The back, I believe it was about 2019 or so we did that no no no 2008 2009 we did this he he at the end of the package the last shoot we did was the swearing in of brand new american citizens at the library of congress just a few blocks from where we're sitting right here in the dc studio and he said to me he said griff you should ask this is all on camera we got to dig the tape up i don't know where it is he said you should ask these new citizens well they feel about those that cut the line. Those were his words that break the law and cross illegally. So it's a great idea. Let's do it. I started asking them right away. They said, it's unfair. It's outrageous. We spent all this

money, all this time waiting, doing it the right way. It's not fair. The others. Now look at what's been replaced. Policies under this administration that told those migrants, our goal is simply to come to America, get a better job, do whatever they're going to do, but get released. So why would you do it the hard way when you can now do it the easy way? And that's the fundamental message that's driving this crisis is that all of those migrants know they can just go the easy way rather than the hard way. And simply put, aside from the national security, which we're going to get into in public safety threats, you have to realize if you were in an impoverished country or you're

facing the threat of a gang and your country's fallen apart, or you're from China or you're from the Middle East, why wouldn't you take the free ticket? They can go on social media. There's TikToks everywhere about where to go and cross in Hacomba, California. We saw those holes in the wall that Bill Molluz and I have been showing migrants streaming through. That's on social media. They saw that before. They paid the smuggler, $10,000, $30,000 to come. In the course of my coverage, I think I've got a perspective unique to others, because not only did I start when it was a drop in the bucket in Arizona back in those early days in 2010 or under the Obama administration when it was really the unaccompanied children that became a crisis, which by the way became a

crisis because they were releasing the children. The single adult males, they went back. They don't now. Now they all get released and stay. But under the Trump years, we had caravans. And when the caravan, the mother of all caravans was popping up in Honduras, all the media it was saying, and I was sitting in for Fox and Friends weekend, and they said, Fox is blowing this up as, you know, this is fake. This isn't real. There's no caravan crisis. And so I said, let's call their bluff. Let's go. So I got with a producer and a cameraman, we flew to San Pedro Sotomay, Honduras, waited at four in the morning, and sure enough, 5,000, 6,000 showed up, 7,000 miles away through all of Honduras, through Guatemala,

across the Suchate River, into the southern part of Mexico and the state of Chiapas, all the way up to the first one went to Tijuana. I did it not once. I did it twice. The second time we ended up in Piedres Negress across from Eagle Pass. I rode trains on top of trains with migrants. And then we get to this administration where I have spent countless amount of months, weeks and months in places like Eagle Pass del Rio in the RGV sector, the Rio Grande sector, McAllen all the way in Arizona and out to, of course, California and Acumba, part of that San Diego sector. But I've also spent time in migrant camps, in Matamoros, in Horace, in Tijuana, in Pieroz

Negress. I've interviewed a Gulf cartel smuggler who told us on camera that they didn't see any threat from the U.S. They were worried about the corruption of Mexican police and immigration on the Mexican side. That was their only concern. and you know you get a perspective of that and you realize how bad it's become and you wonder why and I can't answer that question why did the officials why did my orcas back in the early days tell me he was against them letting him come illegally now the point man the face of the crisis

and we've got to get into it because you know when you look at the number of the people on the terrorist screening list that are coming across, you know, 169 in fiscal year 2023 compared to only 26 in the previous five years. We have got a crisis right now. And as we look at this election, I hope the border and immigration will remain at the top. But I could go on for a very long time. I promised Dan and Patrick, I wouldn't talk for two hours, only about 15 minutes. We're on the Will Kane Show.

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Crime.com Welcome back to the Will Cain Show. This is your humble reporter in D.C. Griff Jenkins filling in and fortunately, glad to be joined and saved. I was on a 18-minute rant about the border Mary Catherine Ham. You've got to help me out and put into perspective the election and now the record of Vice President Harris, who denies being a border czar. But before we start, I hope you have a Zen in. This is now a mandatory requirement of being on the Will Kane show is you've got

to have a Zen in your mouth, which I was spitting out before we started the show. And they're like, no, Will has a Zen in every show. I was like, well, give me mine. Hold on. Here we go. Buckle up. How you doing, Catherine? I'm good. I had only one cup of coffee and no Zen. Although I have heard good things about it and it's basically a performance enhancing drug and I should be on it. We can fix that and performance enhancing it is although the jury's still out on that first segment

I did but I was going Mary Catherine into like and you know this we've full disclosure Mary Catherine and I have been friends or gosh more than probably 20 years now looking back on it and you've been aware of all the coverage I did from the caravans to gone through the daring gap

but now here we are and the administrate the White House and Democrats are trying to spin Harris's record on the border as a positive and saying she was never the border czar. And, you know, I did last week some reporting. We crunch the numbers. And if you, their line is, well, she was never the borders czar despite everyone calling it that and the media calling it and not having any problem for three years. Now all of a sudden we have to be very specific. It was not border czar. She was just, just responsible for determining the root causes and stemming the flow from Mexico and the

Northern Triangle countries, which are Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. And what we found in the numbers is that there was a 140% increase under the Biden-Harris three years in just those four countries over Trump's years and actually a 34% increase over the entirety of the eight years of the Obama-Biden years. There was 4.3 million so far under the Biden-Harris from those four countries and only 1.8 under Trump. And so what do you say when you're watching this basically great rebranding of Harris's role on the border?

Yeah, first of all, don't apologize for your rants on the border because your longtime experience down there is very helpful for having perspective on it, which is something that most journalists are unable to cobble together from even the last three years when they were calling her borders are. And now they've decided it's very controversial to call her border czar, which is just straight nonsense. Now, it is true that she was dealing with root causes in addition to the border because the root causes are part of what causes everyone coming in addition to the Biden administration telling them like doors open, we'll give you free health care and hotels and visa gift cards.

So, like, I understand she was dealing with that. You make the very good point that on that front, she has also failed, right? Yeah. She was in charge of these things. Biden put her in charge of these things because he didn't want to be in charge of them. And she failed. And she fails to speak about it responsibly. I don't think she knows the facts on the ground very well because it's easier to ignore them.

She cannot answer questions in interviews about it, which is why she's not getting interviews because much of the press is happy to allow that. And I also want to say, like, when you deal with these numbers, and this is why it's helpful for you to have all this experience and knowledge, when you deal with these gigantic numbers, it's hard if you're not watching all the time to even take in how much that means, right? It is, it's hard until you see it in your community and you can't get a hotel downtown. Or you see it in your community and resources are being used in a city like Denver,

taking huge chunks out of the city budget that were devoted to American citizens before. And now cannot be because they have declared themselves a city that is a sanctuary to all these people. And because of the crisis at the border caused by the Biden administration and Harris, they're hurting very badly and their citizens are hurting. But let me bring it home to some specific examples, too. In Texas just this week, allegedly, a Venezuelan illegal immigrant shot a cop who is, I believe, still recovering in the hospital. He was apprehended once before and let go, given a second shot to stay in this country. intended because that would be a bad pun, but he was given a second chance to stick around. Number two, two Jordanian nationals who tried to breach Quantico, one of our more important Intel military

FBI facilities. One came over the border, was released in April. He met up with a buddy who had overstayed a visa. They took a box truck onto Quantico, said they were Amazon drivers. The Marines there smartly said, I don't think you are, told them to stop, and they tried to drive through anyway and were stopped by vehicle like bollards now those guys were arrested and they have been let go they were given bail and let go into the interior of the country i cannot think of anything that justifies this type of behavior it is so irresponsible it's so wrong for american citizens to eventually have to pay the price for this and then they're going to act all shocked like oh my gosh how could we have known that two guys from jordan driving with a box truck onto a military

were a problem. Who would have thunk it? And it's such a great point. You know, I covered for Fox that story of the Jordanians breaching it. And, you know, to try and put perspective, again, the stuff that you don't hear on TV, the people don't understand. And because I've got a long trajectory of having covered this for almost 15 years, you know, you look at the, I looked back to the data. There was only about 400,000 total migrant encounters in fiscal year 27. Right? That's the first kind of full year under the Trump administration.

$4007,000, I don't know, 20,000 roughly. But of that, there were only roughly 1,000 from countries that are considered special interest, like Jordan, like Egypt, and like China. So it was 0.3%, right? you look at when I was just recently out in Hacumba, California, where my colleague Bill Malusian has covered as well. This fiscal year alone, there have been more than 33,000 Chinese nationals alone. And in the case of the Jordanians, in the San Diego sector, and that's where one of the individuals crossed,

I confirmed that detail myself, they have these special interest aliens. They can only hold them for about 72 hours, to come up with what's known as derogatory information for which they would do further detainment. But you cannot, these countries of special interests, whether it's Venezuela to China to Jordan or else. They don't have, we don't have data sharing information. We can't determine who they are. So we are releasing people that we simply have no idea who they are or their intentions.

And in that case, the worst one. And by the way, just one more point on Harris's lack of leadership to be polite about it. You know, I talk regularly, weekly if not sometimes daily, to the three Border Patrol chiefs, the current and two past. Rodney Scott, who was the chief of the Border Patrol when Harris was tapped as czar, Raul Ortiz, who was in the height of it under Title 42 and all of that, and Jason Owens, who is the current chief. And I asked directly all three, did you ever get a phone call or a meeting from Harris herself or their staff inquiring about the root causes of those countries or anything else related to the evolution of the border crisis? And they all said no. And that's just stunning to me on a multiple level basis, Mary Catherine, because on the one hand, you would think, my goodness,

for just the political optics of making it look like you're doing something leadership, have a photo op with the Border Patrol chief, we're going to tackle these root causes. But also more importantly, as I laid out in that monologue, the fact that we have gone from having a lot of Mexicans in Northern Triangle countries to having the whole world coming, many of them from countries that are special interests and some that are designated sponsors of terror. And you would have thought somewhere along the way, if you were going to participate in the leadership on the immigration front, you would say, hey, guys, by the way, you put me in charge of the root causes, but it has evolved into a much more threatening problem with greater national security risks. I think we should be tackling this.

Never came. Well, this is actually a hallmark of Kamala Harris's career throughout her career, which is that she's ruthless and pretty cutting and calculating getting to a position. And then as soon as she has the position she wanted, she's very quick to absolve herself of most of the responsibility of the job that she has just gotten. This happened when she was a prosecutor when there was all sorts of mistreatment of evidence in San Francisco. And she had to let go a bunch of offenders because she was like, oh, no, this was never brought to my attention in my lab, even though, of course, it was. This happens over and over. Then she got the VP job. And when she got the VP job, she turns out, it turns out some of that involves really tough issues.

And when she was given a really tough issue, her move as usual is to sort of disavow knowledge of this, not do the hard work. And then when something comes to pass and bad things happen, pretend that it's not on her. But it is on her. It was her literal job. Yeah. And it's going to be fascinating to see if we get a debate how former president. President Trump will try and hold her to that record because there is so much real estate to cover in terms of pointing it out to include, as I was talking in the beginning of the

show, about fentanyl. I just got back from the Border Nagales interview and the CBP Commissioner about the crisis of fentanyl in the fact that because of that crisis, hundreds of thousands of Americans have died and the border literally is hitting every single state as a result. But I digress and I will go on forever. I want to turn, this is a little bit of a hard term, but it's what everybody's talking about, and that is the debacle disaster, whatever adjective fits here, to Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists yesterday, and everyone, of course, Trump is under fire

now for questioning Harris's racial identity, saying that he didn't know whether she was Asian or black. But I think you got to roll the tape back because he met a buzzsaw of hostility. There was no, hey, thanks for being here. Oh, by the way, glad you're still alive. And good morning. How are you? It was right into it. But even the part that you're not seeing in the media, the part that nobody's playing, that Dan, our producer, did such a great job in finding it. I was tasked with this story this morning. So I rolled back the raw tape because I was on a I didn't see it. I wanted to watch it. I had an hour where I could actually see it for myself before I started to talk about it. Novel idea. I actually know what you're talking about

as best you can. And I'm listening to the setup, Mary Catherine, Ann, and you hear, it's not super clear, but you hear in that auditorium with, I don't know, 100 or however many, you know, people were there, that voice of God over the intercom system, advising everyone there to be professional and polite, knowing that it might be a hostile environment to treat the former president with respect. Listen here. We are about to begin a conversation with former president Donald Trump. We ask that the professionalism that we all bring to our newsrooms and workplaces every day is the same professionalism that is maintained in this arena. But apparently, That was lost on the actual moderator from ABC who began the entire event this way.

Listen. You have told four congresswoman women of color who were American citizens to go back to where they came from. You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists calling them a loser saying the questions that they ask are, quote, stupid and racist. You've had dinner with a white supremacist at your Mar-a-Logahru. resort. So my question, sir, now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that? Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question. So, in such a horrible

manner, first question. You don't even say, hello, how are you? Are you with ABC? Because I think they're a fake news network, a terrible network. And I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit. I love the black population of this country. I've done so much for the black population of this country. I mean, was she not listening to the voice of God? What was that? Yeah, look, I think, hello, thanks for being here, Mr. President.

We appreciate it. It would have been a good way to open. However, I want to say, when you're going to say, when you're going into the lion's den anticipate lions right that's what you know you're in there for and you know that it's not going to be kind treatment and i think some of the questions were perfectly good throughout this and some of his answers were perfectly good i think he would have been better off in that situation by the way just joking like you guys know i make fun of all journalists it's very equal opportunity across races and ethnicities uh something along those lines right

I think that would serve him better than getting in high dudgeon about being asked these questions. Two, I'd like to say that I appreciate the National Association of Black Journalists and Trump for getting together and making this happen because journalists asking tough questions of people running for president is a thing that we should push for. Now, none of them are pushing for it for Kamala Harris, who did not show up at this event and has yet to take a press conference or many questions in general. And I would love to see her do that. I know the National Association of Black Journalists got a ton of of blowback from its own members and from other people outside of it saying you shouldn't have this guy on the stage. But I think that's nonsense. He's running for president. Ask the questions.

So the thing about Trump, though, is you have to anticipate that this is what is coming. And he has a job to do right now because the media will not define Kamala Harris as anything other than Queen Kamala, K-W-E-E-N. He has to talk about her record. He has to talk about how she's tied to the Biden administration. He has to talk about how those kinds of policies were bad for black voters during this administration and that life was better for black voters under his administration. Now, he made some of those points, but he needs to be on that 24-7 and getting off on other topics that I think are frankly very online and sort of offensive.

and when you're adjudicating people's identities in this way, does not help you, does not help you get out of the lion's den unscathed, and it doesn't make the point to the voters you're trying to reach that you need to make. Yeah, it's a great point, particularly when we're seeing recent trends of the GOP with making gains and gaining a lot of ground in Trump's numbers as well in the black community. I think, you know, you hit something that made me think. of the Wall Street Journal op-ed today writes, literally the first sentence is something along lines of half of politics is simply showing up, particularly when it's to a room full of

critics. And to Trump's credit, he gets that. Now, about, by the way, Harris's lack of appearance because she wasn't on that stage, she cited a scheduling conflict. But our DC team looked back at her actual schedule as it was given to the White House pool. And she had only one event on her schedule before 3 p.m., meaning she should have been able to make time. And the only thing that was on her schedule, in quotes, was lunch with President Biden. So I don't know if she, you know, is going to ultimately appear, because I know this thing goes on for a couple of days. But I think that, you know, obviously, you know, questioning her identity, a bad look, and it's going to take criticism.

I mean, look, this is a woman whose father is black. He's Jamaican, her mother's Indian. And so, you know, you really... It just is biracial. Like, she's too big. She went to Howard University. She's a, I remember the top black sorority, you know, and spoke to them recently. But I think that, you know, even in his Trumpian way of making these very

controversial statements that are water cooler talk and everyone's like, oh, I don't know if he should have said that, it still isn't lost that here was an opportunity for that moderator to really dig in. And by the way, I think our own Harris Fogner did a great job, the best job, of trying to get to some substance in it. They had an opportunity off the top to not only get into substance, but also address some of these sensitive racial issues with a decorum that would have given us a little more insight into Trump's thinking on these things. I don't know. At the end of the day...

Some of this, too, is that journalism circles are so uniformly liberal and progressive, and there's a lot of social pressure that's sitting on that stage, every single journalist up there knows that unless like Rachel Scott, unless she delivers that punch and she does it in a very mean way, I mean a very cutting way, they're going to call her

soft on him. They're going to say you're not going to be at the cool kids journalism table anymore if you don't treat him that way when I think it would be a more effective both for him and for journalists to just ask civil questions and get

information out of him. Nonetheless, I think we got information out of him as he was sitting there. But here's the thing. Do you think, honest truth, do you think Rachel Scott, that ABC moderator would have with President Biden? And President Biden was scheduled to appear there. That was when it was originally lined up and he was obviously still the candidate. And I think he might have even been on the schedule to appear before Trump. Do you think Rachel Scott's first question would have been, no hello, Mr. President, know how you doing, would have just gone right into you said if you don't vote for Biden, you ain't black. What'd you mean?

No, I don't think he would have been treated the same. And the argument from journalists, again, who are almost uniformly left of center or very liberal, is that Trump is just different because we don't have to treat him the same because he's worse. And Biden's better. And that's just the end of that story. But their lack of curiosity about Biden and their overweening respect for like the liberal line on things and their conformity left them. with a situation where we had a president and a candidate who was not capable of doing the job, and they were not addressing that at all. I wonder what kind of questions he would have gotten about his health state had he stayed in the race and ended up at this event, right? They have been

very not confrontational about that. And I know I'm like, like yelling into the wind, asking them to ask Kamala Harris tough questions. But if she's going to try to be the president, we should get some answers from her just as you got them from Trump. I'd also like to point on another double standard, which is that Rachel Scott, who did ask some tough questions of Nancy Pelosi in the halls of the House about two or three weeks ago before Biden was out of the race, she kept pressing her about it. And Pelosi got annoyed with her, and she gives her the hand motion and says, am I speaking English to you? Now, I just want to posit that an 80-something-year-old white Republican, if they made a hand motion rudely to a young black woman reporter and asked,

am I speaking English to you? That might be considered a bit of a, not even a microaggression, like a medium aggression, at least. Yeah. But there's no price to be paid for that when it comes to Nancy Pelosi. Look, I think, you know, one of the, one of the, I guess, victories, if you will, in this, if you're the Trump campaign, the Trump campaign came out and blasted this, calling it liberal media malpractice and that's that's one of their standard you know weapons of choice

that's one of their arrows in the quiver and this did nothing but reinforce that in every way and so there I think you're probably going to hear more about this in the next Trump rally whenever that is all right listen we have got to get to surfing at the Olympics because of course myself and Will Kane, who also is a surf. We're probably surfing right now as you and are working and talking in Hawaii. And we've also got to talk about Mrs. Frazzled, because your reaction to Mrs. Frazzled was gold. We're on the Will Kane show.

We'll be right back, Griff Jenkins and Mary Catherine Ham. Stay tuned. Put his in in. It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes. We ask people on the streets of New York City to play along. Let's see how you do. Take the quiz every day at the quiz. then come back here to see how you did thank you for taking the quiz

welcome back to the quiz welcome back to the will cane show this is your humble dc reporter griff jenkins sitting in for the amazing will cane out surfing hopefully somewhere in i joined by mary catherine ham mary catherine ham i promised to let you go but i had to keep you because when they were, when Dan and Patrick were showing me everything about, you know, we get about this, talk about that. They're like, did you see that TikToker, the white women for Harris, given the gentle parenting? I was like, oh, my gosh, it's unbelievable. It's a video if you haven't seen it.

Go and torture yourself on TikTok. She's basically blasting her uncle Norm about, you know, being upset about transgender and some various other things. But I want to play for us quickly, you had a response to Mrs. Frum. brazzled, here it is. Uh-oh, Spaghetti-o, it seems like we've had a little misunderstanding. Sounds like some of you have some silly goose thoughts about race-segregated political meetings. Catch a bubble. We do have special meetings for white women and white men.

These people are gathering because they don't want to. Does anybody know because they don't want to be around people of other races? A bubble. Oh my gosh. Masterclass, Mary Catherine Aham. What prompted you to post that, which is an awesome response. And what is with this? I mean, I'm just so annoyed by the fact that Democrats are like, no, we're definitely just going to have white people meetings.

And that is good. It's good. It's racism for the right. reasons. And this particular Instagram influencer, Mrs. Frazzled, who I get served on the reg because I am a mom. So my demographic means that I must deal with this insufferable person. She speaks as if she's speaking to children in such a way as to address conservative concerns or just like normal American concerns about vaccine mandates and all sorts of policies. And she very condescendingly tells you as if she's your preschool teacher, why all of your thoughts are bad and mean.

and you shouldn't have any concerns. And this type of figure, I know comes off sort of like the gentle voice and the weird vocal Friday. She is a teacher, apparently. Right. It's, oh, yeah, she is. And the thing is that that can cover up something that's pretty sinister, which is that this person is very invested in telling you your thoughts and what you're seeing with your

eyes in this economy or in this, this environment are not real. She's invested in having a lot of control over your. your kids, over your family, uh, having only her views sort of pushed on to everyone else, but it's couched in this very gentle voice. And I find it so very off-putting. And I do not want to be gentle-parented at all. And I think that white women for Harris call sort of showed, it was like this pseudotherapy vibe where like, I don't want politics to be therapy for me. I don't want politicians to be therapists for me. That is not their job. job. You shouldn't want them to do that either. But this is a demo that Democrats are reaching. And I would

suggest that for both campaigns, the issue is sort of charging up your base that might be full of weirdos like this without putting off normal people is the challenge of every campaign. Right. And that lady is not welcoming to the normies. It's creepy. Catch a bubble. I love it. That just means shut up. That's what she's telling you. She's telling you to shut up. You're a child. You can't think for yourself.

Another one I saw, mac and cheese freeze. Look, if I've learned anything from being in radio and in television, is you should never be condescending to your audience. You should never assume as she's making the offensive point that the people she's talking to are stupid. Because the American people are not stupid. And I don't think it's a... As I say in the video,

only Democrats can join together safely in white affinity groups with matching hats. There's no history there. You have got it down. Well, listen, speaking of being that mom and having an actual real important life, thank you for taking time. I know we got to let you go, but catch a bubble. Have a good one. And thanks for being here on the Will Cain Show.

Sure. Talk to you soon. All right. See you. Mary Catherine Ham, everybody. One of the best, a good friend. And she nailed that Mrs. Frazzled. Now, in the remaining time, and at least taking a moment before we run out of time, I have to talk about surfing.

Will Kane would want me to talk about surfing. I don't know if you have seen the amazing image. It's going to be the iconic image, I think, of the Olympics, is three-time world champion, Gabriel Medina, who's going to be surfing later as the heats continue. I think they're getting to the quarterfinals now. he's finished a giant wave at chopes or teahapu which is a wave in tahiti one of the most dangerous in the world it's 10 15 20 foot waves breaking on three foot reef people die there tragically every year but this photo of literally gabriel medina suspended walking almost on air pointing to the sky his board over here it's a shot that really is once in a lifetime for a

kid that's been surfing for 30 plus years, I'm so blown away. Dan, Patrick, let me get your thoughts on this. Are you guys watching the surfing? And by the way, this is only the second time that surfing's been in the Olympics. And what a great idea to put it at Chopes in Tahiti because they were going to know at that point they were going to get the waves that would really show off the skill of the surfers. But that kickout with that Medina image, iconic image suspended in the air, is really something that even if you're not a surfer, you can look at it and say, wow. I feel like that'll be the image of the Olympics for a little while. I mean, it's pretty crazy.

And people don't understand surfing, kind of like I do, just can't understand what's happening in that. And I've been loving it. What is, to you, knowing surfing, what's the difficulty level out there what it could have been? You know, like in terms of what the difficulty level should be for the Olympics compared to what's actually happening in terms of the waves. That's a great question. And to answer it, the difficulty level on a scale of 1 to 10 is a full 10. No way.

Really? It is. Look, it goes to 11. And, you know, I think the reason why is because it's such a technical wave that sort of wraps around this reef. And most of the time, the amazing videos you see, they actually, a lot of times the servers are towed into it because that gives them the ability to catch the way without having to be. paddle into it because if you can't paddle fast enough on a wave, you go over the falls. And you go over the falls on a 15-foot wave on three-foot of reef, you're likely to get injured egregiously or possibly die.

And in the couple of weeks leading up to the start of the Olympics, there were several individuals, including one photographer in the water and then one competitor that had to then not participate that got hurt warming up and getting comfortable with that water. And, you know, this is a wave that is, you don't see the aerials and the quick turns and that. It is a barreling wave. It is the most challenging skill level of any. And it's one that I would certainly never attempt after surfing for more than 30 years. I'm pretty sure Will Kane would never attempt at surfing it because, look, when you go out, I remember I'm 53.

The biggest wave I ever rode was, I don't know, 15, 16 feet in Nosara, Costa Rica. And I was with a bunch of guys down there, and they had this huge swell. And it was for my 40th birthday that we were there. And it was my last day, December 14th, where I turned 40 on the 15th, last day in my 40s. And the waves were so big. People were coming in with broken boards. One guy was bleeding from his leg. And one of the guys we were with lives in Costa Rica.

He's an American ex-pad married, a Costa Rican girl. and makes money taking surf photos and wedding photos and the like. And he was going to take photos that day. And none of my buddies were going to go out on just a sand beach. You know, this is a difficulty level, skill level of like, you know, five or six. You need to know what you're doing because you've got to paddle out through 15 foot waves to get out there. And it holds you under. So there is a reality of possibly drowning or getting hurt out there.

They said, just get the shot. Just get this shot. So I'm like, okay. So I go out of paddle. for like 30 minutes, just taking it on the head. There's a guy out there that's like a local Costa Rican. I think he's even a potential, you know, professional, quasi-professional guy. He's like, you know, just stick with me.

We're working the channel. We're going to get out there. And when the wave goes, when the wave crashes, and this isn't chopoo on reef. This is a much smaller wave of only like 15 feet on sand. Just a crushing sound of a million pounds of water, collapsing and it's very intimidating but I finally realized I got to get this one shot then I can get the heck out of the water so a wave comes up I closed my eyes terrified for dear life and went and fortunately made the wave came down got the shot and at that point I had the adrenaline rush

of my life I'm like oh that was good I need another hit of that let's get some more so I've paddle back out line up with my Costa Rican surfing guru and take off on another wave, and I got absolutely mauled. I felt like, you know, the running of the bulls in Pamplona, if every bull hit you at the same time, that's what hit me. I fortunately didn't drown, got washed up, and I got out of the water because I realized how danger it is. And I tell that story to illustrate just how death-defying this Olympic wave is.

You know, every accomplishment is to be heralded. story right now is our own D.C. local, amazing hero, Katie Ledecki, winning these gold medals in the swimming pool. That is the stuff of goosebumps. And a kid that grew up the same age as my eldest daughter. I remember her growing up in Georgetown. She lived not far from us. And, you know, the amount of early mornings in sacrifice she made to get there. And that's a story to be held up. But it's worth at least noting that she doesn't stand to possibly get serious. injured or killed every time she gets in that pool. And that's what all those surfers at Chaopu are facing when they paddle out today.

And it's a remarkable thing. No, it's scary. I've been watching it and been fascinated by it. Because I've watched a couple of surfing competitions before, but this seemed a little extra crazy. I've always been terrified of the undertow. I tried to go out once and just failed miserably. It's a lot harder than it looks. I'll be honest with you.

I think this begs for a episode for Griff Jenkins and Will Kane to go out and surf, not in Chopoo, but somewhere. Do you do like something in the water? Maybe we can do the Will Kane show from sitting in the lineup and catching waves. I think this is possible. I've just suggested it a terrible idea. Everybody's like, oh, my gosh, what's he's talking about? But we can probably probably get it done. It's a Fox Nation thing we definitely need to do.

And, you know, it's honestly. When you look at surfing, I mean, I grew up a kid of the 80s. And back then, you know, all I could get was Surfer Magazine. And Kelly Slater, who's the same age, is now the, you know, Michael Jordan of surfing. You know, there's been a couple of magazine covers, one in particular that argued that Kelly Slater was the greatest athlete to live, even more than, say, Michael Jordan, or you name Tom Brady, who has. ever, simply because in those competitions, in the world championships, 11 world championships that Kelly Slater's got, compared to the Brady Super Bowl rings, to the Jordan Championships. In all of those cases, the skill level of the surfing that became more mainstream is we could

begin to watch the videos and see the live streams. And you saw the young kids, like John John Florence, who's in the Olympics now, John John was 12 years old catching his first wave in the pipeline when Kelly Slater won his first pipeline master. Now, he is, you know, a 30-something-year-old man competing in the Olympics. If he even 30, maybe he's like a late 20s. But Slater continued to elevate his skill level to be better than the young ones coming up in a sport that was advancing in such an enormous way. Nobody even knew where Tahiti was to surf in the 80s or 90s. It wasn't until later they began to find these ways.

in the skill level change. So that's my rant on surfing. And it's been fantastic being on the Will Kane show today. Thanks for having me. And I'll go back to sort of where I started. I was excited to come here to talk about the border. And I want you, as we go forward, if you remember nothing other than what Griff Jenkins talked about, remember to pay attention during the next nearly 100 days of this

election cycle to what's talked about on the border. because every border patrol official I've talked to, including the three heads of the border patrol, two previous, one current, all say one thing. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when the national security risk on our border, let alone the rapes of murders, become a greater problem. And that's a sobering thought. I hate to leave that with you. So go watch some surfing on the Olympics today. Tune into the Will Kane Show, put us in in, and have a great day. I'm Griff Jenkins.

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