Will Cain Country - Karmelo Anthony's Defense Just Hit a Major Problem (ft. Asra Nomani & Rep. Kristin Robbins)

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

New grisly details in the murder trial of Karmelo Anthony have come to light, including eyewitness testimony of what led up to the incident and photos of a wound that a medical examiner ruled “unsurvivable.” Will and The Crew unpack the latest developments in the case before being joined by FOX Digital’s Senior Editor of Investigations, Asra Nomani, to share the results of her investigation into a Signal chatroom helping coordinate anti-ICE riots across the country and in fighting between radical Leftist groups and Hasan Piker.Plus, Chair of Minnesota’s Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight Policy Committee, Rep. Kristin Robbins (R-MN) joins Will to follow up on Minnesota's high risk Medicaid fraud, as 61% of providers failed to meet the requirements as well as the House Oversight Committee's bombshell report claiming that Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) and his administration were aware of the fraud. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews)Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and the murder of Austin Metcalf, witness after witness now, has taken the stand to suggest Carmelo Anthony provoked what ended up being murder. Spencer Pratt has fallen to third in L.A. as ballots just keep trickling in. Another couple weeks, and they'll assure that no Republican is in the runoff of the mayor of Los Angeles. And Governor Tim Walts and Attorney General Keith Ellison, Now, implicated in fraud in Minnesota. There's Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. Always here for you to follow at Spotify or on Apple. So 104 Pat, two days, Dan, we are in, oh, day four.

I think we're in day four of the trial. Why are you upside down? What's happening, right? What's happening, right? What's going on? I've been trying to mess with my background. I couldn't get it right. And then it just went back.

Have you Zoom before? This is disorienting. You are upside down. I'm going to figure it out. Well, don't let it distract you, Will. This isn't on, every day you've been shown up with a different background. Are you telling me this is not on purpose? No, no, no.

This is, I couldn't get the background to work. I assure you it's not. I disappeared. And then I was trying to get the background to work, and then it flipped me upside down. This is incredibly disorienting. I apologize to everyone on Facebook or on YouTube. If you're listening on Spotify, Apple, or radio, congratulations. Because this is not easy.

It's a new low for us. Just look at somebody on your screen who is upside down. Yeah, that's a new low. Oh, there we go. I fixed it. Okay, we're good. That was cool. You did that on purpose.

Are you doing a bit? I didn't even know. What bit are you doing? So we didn't have it right before and then we fixed it and then I told him to have it be a bit. So yeah, a little bit. Okay. It was a thing, though. It's not as funny.

No, it's a bit. Maybe it's a good metaphor. Maybe. Day four of the trial of Carmelo Anthony and the murder of Austin Metcalf. It began last week. It continued over the weekend. They conducted trial on Saturday. The prosecution rested its case over the,

the weekend. I think they called something like 17 witnesses, I believe, not 100% sure on that number. It included the medical examiner. So when the medical examiner was brought in to testify, anyone who didn't want to hear this was invited to leave. Austin Metcalf's family left, Carmelo Anthony's mother left. It was apparently incredibly gruesome. It was not easy to watch, not easy to hear, not easy to see. Medical examiner described a stab wound to Austin Metcalf's chest that went through his sternum and pierced his heart. A two-inch gap, a two-inch gap, a two-inch gaping wound. Every witness you'll hear that is testified has talked about how quickly, like, blood was, and I don't mean to, you know,

indulge in the gory details, but to some extent, if you avoid it, you're not doing a service to coming to a rational and just decision. That's for the jurors in the room who were shown these images. Apparently, they were shown them up close so that the gallery didn't see it. I don't know if it was on an iPad or what it was, but they were handed something to see it. They all had to lean in and see this stuff. One of the jurors apparently covered their mouth. And you heard testimony, tons of testimony from kids about how quickly, I mean, blood was everywhere and how quickly Austin Metcalfe went down

and how quickly he was out. Yeah, one of the coaches got to him pretty quick, took off his sweatshirt, tried to stop the bleeding with that sweatshirt. But the medical examiner testified it was an unsurvivable wound that you can't be stabbed in the heart like that and recover. kind of did make me wonder

I haven't seen an image of the pocket knife It's described as A folding knife you usually think of as a pocket knife I mean I haven't seen a photo of how big this blade was But I'd be very curious Even if it's a folding blade How big this thing was Yeah see if that's out there Dan

I'd be real curious to see how big that blade is Yeah I'm looking at it now It looks like one of those kind of switch type blades Like a four inch maybe I'm seeing it throw it up Can you throw it up I'll find it yeah yeah It says 3.5 inch blade.

I'll find it one second. A 3.5 inch blade? That's pretty big, you know, for a pocket knife. I mean, that's not a pocket knife, really. What's that? Nothing. Like, you think of a folding knife, pocket knife, and you really think about, I guess maybe three and a half inches

is what it folds itself into. Yeah, I'm not sure. but they called, I don't know how many students that were in the tent and around the situation that day, and they almost all testified. Mary Ann Martinez is in the courtroom. She is reporting for the Daily Mail. She's based out of El Paso. She gives incredible updates. And she has, the names of the students testifying are not being released because they're minors. but here's the tweet that said it today we've heard this was on Saturday today we've heard from an additional five kids six yesterday five today so that's 11 kids that have testified they're all telling the same story carmello was not known or wanted underneath the memorial high school tent multiple kids asked him to leave and he refused austin metcalf took the lead something the kids say was normal for austin to do Currently, a kid is on the stand testifying that Carmelo challenged Austin to a fist fight. That's the first we've heard of this claim.

According to this student, Austin responded, I'm not going to fight you at the track meet, bro. So almost everyone has testified. The defense has now begun their case, and they may rest it today. Almost everyone, all but one, I think, has testified that a tent at a track meet is the equivalent of a locker room in another sport. and that it is understood, you don't go sit under another team's tent. It's like entering another team's locker room. Carmelo did know somebody on the Memorial High School team. That's the team that Austin belonged to.

And apparently went up to that that kid testified as well, the one that Carmelo knew came over and sat next to. According to that kid's testimony, this is an image of the knife. That doesn't do a lot to help me actually. Yeah, that's really all we have. off scale. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's like a courtroom drawing of a knife on a TV in the courtroom.

It's hard to get the scale. Yeah, I don't want to get it wrong, so that's all we have for now. Okay. Yeah, so the kid that knew Carmelo invites him into the tent, but he says Carmelo was essentially the instigator. Said kind of on loop, you know how you repeat things over and over in an aggressive manner. touch me and see what happens, touch me and see what happens, touch me and see what happens, something like five times. Asked to leave by 15 different, or 15 different times by multiple different kids, wouldn't leave.

And then when Austin approaches him and does touch him, does put his hands on him, immediately responds with the knife. You know, and now the defense is putting on testimony, and they've got a guy on the stand today, saying apparently this witness said that Carmelo was surrounded so it would make it seem like he was being ganged up on and threatened with his life the prosecutor showed that kid the tape and said do you think you got it right and he said no maybe he's not surrounded so the defense at the end of the prosecution's case move for a directed verdict a directed verdict means the state didn't meet its burden you can go ahead and rule judge right now the judge said no

declined, proceed, put on your case, defense. So there's suggestions the defense could rest today and it would go to the jury. The jury would first deliberate on guilt, then the jury would deliberate on punishment, which is five to 99 years for Carmelo Anthony. Everything that I have seen, and I've kept up with the reports from inside the courtroom on the testimony, this is not a difficult case. There is in no way a credible argument for self-defense in this case. there is no way that even a shove, no words could predicate him responding with deadly force in the way that he did. What is he doing at a track meet with a knife? What is he doing under another team's tent?

What is he doing not leaving when asked? What is he doing when suggesting touch me and see what happens as though he knew exactly what would happen and he had his knife ready to go? What is he doing after the fact when he runs away, throws the knife away, and says to the officer, I'm not alleged I did it. Everyone thinks that's important. What's actually important is there's no discrepancy on who did it. It's only a matter of whether or not it's self-defense. He says to the officer multiple people, he touched me. I told him not to touch me.

He touched me. That's not I was so scared. I was about to be what, I don't know, beat up within an inch of my life. None of that. He touched me. He touched me. Touching someone is not provocation for self-defense. Not a violent threat, not reasonable to consider that your life is in danger in any way and asking for it. Touch me and see what happens. Touch me and see what happens. This case should be open and shut. This case should be black and white in the legal sense, not black and white. white in the racial sense. This case should be deliberated and decided quickly. But based upon

what's going on outside that courtroom, we're going to have to hold our breath to see if justice is more sane inside the courtroom than the racial melodrama playing on outside the courtroom. Go ahead, Dan. Don't you think either way of the verdict that there will be outside kind of protests, I think either way. So no matter what... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what the response will be.

I really don't. If Carmelo Anthony is found not guilty by reason of self-defense, I mean, look, what do you mean? Like, who's going to riot? I mean, the most we've ever seen of that is what's going down in the UK right now when injustice like that.

When the racial dynamics are as they are, you very rarely have seen that type of injustice met with riots. You are right now in protest in the UK over the murder of, Henry Noak and the horrible response of the police. If Carmelo Anthony is found guilty, what will be the question is, do those people outside the courtroom, and are those people online representative of anything larger?

Can we hold faith in humanity, regardless of race out there, that people actually see things sanely? Or is this racial instigation going on online? And in person outside the courtroom, representative of something larger. And that will be horrific. Not just, that will be horrific on multiple levels about the revelations of our fellow man. That's the main thing. That will be horrific.

Besides the injustice of finding him not guilty by reason of self-defense. Azern Omani is a senior editor of investigations of Fox News Digital. She's the author of Woke Army, the Red Green Alliance, to destroying America's freedom. She also has several new investigative pieces up at Fox News Digital right now on what's going on outside Delaney Hall in New Jersey and how spontaneous and organic these protests are versus what we've talked about and seen in the past, Osra, how funded, organized, and astro-turfed these riots are in New Jersey. Tell us a little bit of what you've learned. All right. It's just like you said, it's a network. But, you know,

I didn't focus on it, but just because it's your passion right now, I wanted to look up who is funding the protests outside the Carmelo, Anthony, protests. And it's one organization. Yeah. Next Generation Action Network. And I see them on in the, you see them right? So they're based in Texas. Dominique Alexander. Grand Prairie.

They haven't filed their 990s, well, in a few years, as they should. and they have very few little revenue in, you know, comparison to a lot of organizations, just 171,000. But as you know, you can do a lot with that kind of money. What becomes interesting, of course, is their funders. It's not like a lot of big money, $200,000, this place called Child Poverty Action Lab in Dallas. So again, promoting, like charity work, child poverty, you know, like not race baiting and race wars, right? That's what we're really, why do we care about these nonprofits that we're examining? Because they are doing much more than a charitable mission.

Like to your point, you are anticipating, it's threat assessment, that they could, if the verdict doesn't go their way, they could take it to the streets and do a repeat of 2020. I don't know if you've ever heard of this group called BVM Capacity, but I know them from far left funding. And then, guess what? Number three is the Tides Foundation. They gave them a grant, just 25,000, you know, but 25 of a budget of 200 is sizable. So again, wait, wait, so Tides Foundation is George Soros, right?

So George Soros, Tides Foundation, gave $25,000 to the Next Generation Action Network, who is Dominique Alexander, and he, by the way, has been the front face of a lot of this Carmelo Anthony stuff. He's an absolutely horrific individual who... traffic's in obvious, obvious and blatant lies that is racialized to this trial. Okay, good. You see, you know, because you're in the trenches, he made last report of compensation. It was not much. But again, you're like, how does he have the time? It's $17,000 in 2020. So like I said, they're late. So that's already wrong. Like, that's already messed up. Like, I don't know if they filed their 990s, but really all of the databases are very current.

But yeah, Dominique Alexander, and then I'm sure a lot of these names you're going to know, Alison Grinter, they've got a lawyer, Kim Cole lawyer, Lakeisha Smith, like about 10 people on their directors. He's the only one that got money. But, yeah, so this is a perfect example. Like, you care both as your national global figure, but this is at home for you. You know, this is very real. And that's what I always want to motivate everybody to think about, like, the protests going on down the street from them. Just start looking it up, following the money.

And I just did this while you were talking. But I will, I'll dial in whatever they matter. I failed an AP test, Will, as a journalist out of college, because as an immigrant, I don't know my American colloquialism as well. So I'm going to dial something in order to get the details on this. Let's take quick break, but continue this conversation with Fox News Digital Investigative reporter, Azar Namani on Will Kane Country. Twizzlers keep the fun going. Yeah, I know.

I just stopped whatever you were listening to to tell you that Twizzlers keep the fun going. Well, irony isn't my forte, but twisty, chewy, yummy Twizzler sure is. So think of Twizzlers as a little palate cleanser for whatever's queued up, which, by the way, should be coming very soon. Like any second now. Okay, Twizzlers. time to keep the fun going. Dive in, dive in, dial it in.

You know, it's understandable. There you go. Well, that's great. I want to learn more about it. That's great. So the Tides Foundation is connected to the next generation action network. We need to find, if something happens here,

if the verdict goes the way of justice, and then when that's responded to with injustice, then we're going to need to know who is funding that injustice. And already, we know right there. Once again, raising the question of what is it to George Soros, wants. What nefarious organization is he not involved in? Which ones are he, is he not funding? Tell us about New Jersey a little bit. And Delaney Hall, which you have dove into. I'm really happy to talk to you about that because this is again another example where the far

left socialist, Marxist, communists are taking advantage of a difficult issue. They're not trying to actually find solutions. They're trying to. just cause chaos. And we have one of the great documents, Love My Show and Tell. This is literally one of their communications documents that they've been sharing in their signals chats. What's happening at Delaney Hall? Why we need you and what you can do. And this is their calm strategy. And I love the part that I really thought was fascinating is Delaney Hall is another, for those that don't know this story yet, it's an immigration detention facility. It was reopened as a facility last year, and this organization called Geo Group is running a lot of the detention facilities, kind of the government outsourcing.

So these, this network of far-left groups, immigration groups, and now, of course you're going to expect the anti-Israel groups, right? Well, they're all coming together. I call it the Delaney Hall 100 because I've identified 100 groups. And this is just crazy. In New Jersey, they have combined annual revenues of $845 million. I looked up the annual budget for the city of Newark, and it is about that amount. So it's no wonder that the Newark Police Department and agency resources are overwhelmed. But what they are also facing is the narrative warfare.

And this document chronicles exactly how this far-left group wants their supporters to message. Tips for content. Focus on their demand for freedom and human rights abuses. And then these are the words that everybody is going to be hearing. Call it a concentration camp, not a detention center. Don't call them detainees. Instead, use people or captives. And this one, say that they were kidnapped, abducted, and taken.

And what happens every day is a call goes out on social media. Oftentimes, Instagram is their preference of a platform. And then they spread the word in these signal chats. And I've watched those messages and chronicle it in the story that we wrote about how they activated last week. Wow. And they're using that signal chat, as you pointed out, to organize and get out there when the curfew was ended, that a message went out almost immediately. Curfews over. Get out there. Talk to me about now. So you have also documented and seen how this coordinated message that you're talking about has connections to the same groups that are funded by Neverroy Singham. And then there's, and by the way, you know what's interesting to me, Osra, really quickly. One more on Delaney Hall.

Whoever these people are, right? We saw the video last week of streamer Hassan Piker show up and get much less than a warm welcome, right? Right. Like he was heckled and chased off. And then I was reading in your report as well, a lot of these politicians like Corey Booker and Andy Kim and Mikey Cheryl, the governor of New Jersey, have showed up. But then the crowd has turned on them in some degree as well. Yeah. So this is a, what is this?

Am I to internalize that? This is a group that is radical to the extent of not even accepting the modern day radical Democrat. Yeah, it's so fascinating. And so we have these two great reporters out of the New York Bureau, Preston, Mazzel, and Michael Dorgan. And they've been going on the streets for us in Newark. As Michael got the footage of Hussein Piker, he knew him from our coverage. Hussein Piker is in trouble because of this trip he did in March to Cuba. So everything connects.

Like if people sort of get their minds, their brains blow up, like just know it all connects. It's not a conspiracy because it's all like connected either through people or money. And in this instance, what this is is this network. they're so far left that they, I don't know, have you ever heard of the word tankie? Tankie. You've told me about the tankies. Okay. You've told me about them, but I forgot what they are.

Yeah, I'll remind you because we're going to get all this stuff into muscle memory so that we know when we see these wedges. The tankies are the ones that are far left, but they get in bed with the actual tyrants like the Soviet Union, Russia, you know, through history, and now China. So interestingly, those that are in Delaney Hall, some of them, any of them, think that Piker is a sellout because Hussin Piker is connected to the Singham Network and Singham Network is obviously supported by the, and supports the Chinese Communist Party. So they believe that even the Chinese Communist Party has failed socialism and communism. as an experiment. So they were, they were harassing him. They were going after him. I got a picture of

Kaya, Hussein Piker's dog that is a celebrity now because there were allegations earlier this year that he used a shock collar on her. And so one of the, yeah, I heard that's what they're yelling at him. Yeah, that's, that's why then. They were yelling, dog abuser. And so, and it was a black man and Hussein Piker just kept on walking and his people were behind him, you know, catching video and creating their own propaganda. So then they're left of Hussein Piker, who is Democratic Socialists of America. And then the Democrats show up and Hussein Piker has already branded them. I don't know if you've heard this term, but he's, they're now calling them Blue Maga. So they are putting the Democrat. Yeah, I have heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So what, so it's

so important for everybody to see these divides because it's in these divides that perhaps these networks will be dismantled, you know, in their own infighting and in their own ratting each other out because what Husson Piker immediately did when we reported that the Treasury Department was investigating him is he said, hey, don't look at me. I think they're really looking at Neville Roy Singham. And so a lot of people said that he threw Neville Roy them under the bus. But that's the politics. And it's only because you will and we and everybody else is studying these guys so intentionally and so clearly that we can then see these divides and hopefully protect America. So you bring up Hassan Piker. He was part of this trip to Cuba.

And you just reported this. Secretary of State Marco Rubio sanctions Cuban groups with ties to U.S. nonprofit network funded by communist donor Neville Roy Singham. So this is why Hassan Piker, for example, got a, what did he get a subpoena? Yeah, it's called an administrative subpoena. And so it's definitely less than a criminal subpoena. And Medea Benjamin and Code Pink got one also. And they got it as an email. She said it was a series of a trusive question.

about who, you know, where they spent their money, where they spent their time. But those are all the legitimate questions that the Treasury Department can ask because Cuba is on a sanctions list. And it's run by the Communist Party of Cuba and that has been declared a terrorist organization by the United States because of decades of conflict. And, you know, A lot of people, I have ignored Cuba. I'll say, I'll be honest. I went to Guantanamo for some reporting some years ago, went to the tip. Of course, that's not run by the Communist Party. It's run by America. But, you know, Will, what is really I have been able to learn also. And what I report out is for six decades, there is this organization that has this acronym called ICAP. And it's a friendship

committee. And Fidel Castro himself created this organization. And for six decades, it has basically put its propaganda out into the United States. And even our intelligence agencies have identified it as an operation of the Cuban intelligence agency, which many people may not realize is considered one of the most sophisticated in the world. And remember, again, 90 miles off, the shores of America. So ICAP has had a relationship with the students for Democratic Society, which was called SDS, in the 60s. And then some of the graduates of that operation became the Weather Underground, which was the 1970s terrorist organization in the United States. We thought we had all left that back in the past, but Medea Benjamin from Code Pink, this guy

named Brian Becker from the Answer Coalition, they're all relics of that era and they are the ones that now bring this next generation, which is Hussin Piker, to Cuba. He becomes part of the propaganda operation. And what Marco Rubio has really done powerfully is added I-cap to the sanctions list. So what that means is that this entire network that is Code Pink, People's Forum, Party for Socialism and Liberation, Answer Coalition. coalition, all supporting communism can no longer do business with this group called ICAP. So he's cut off that relationship. And you know what he's going to, you know, I don't know if you've heard the saying, but I heard

it from an FBI agent that you just hope that the alleged criminals make one more mistake, sorry, than you make. And that's what, you know, they're going to be watching now. Is people's forum going to continue to send money to ICAP and create tourism? of delegations to Cuba, is Code Pink going to continue to send money for solar panels, you know, and all this fundraising that they do? So it's really, again, that Al Capone strategy of money. Really quickly. So we have freedom of speech in the United States, but that freedom of speech is limited, like, meaning, you know, the Chinese Communist Party can't come to America

and do whatever they want, say whatever they want. I don't know what, I can't. I can't, off the top of my head, it's like registering as a foreign agent, that kind of stuff. And so can all of these nonprofits, whether or not they're connected to Neverroycingham, is that the connections can become so diffuse at this point that it doesn't matter. So it goes from the CCP to Never Roycing them, Neveroycing them to the Answer Coalition, answer coalition down to the streets in Delaney Hall. Icap to People's Forum, People's Forum. The point is you are doing the work of a foreign power, be it Cuba or China.

You've run it through several nonprofits. Where is the ability to shut down basically what is amounted to a foreign propaganda network on the soils of America? Yeah, so well put. And there's this other concept that I really love that explains what you just described. And it's called narrative laundering, you know, because a lot of people have heard of money laundering. And ultimately, Will, what I'm learning, talking to people familiar with the investigations that are ongoing, is that they are going to approach this will, much like the investigation that has happened now, that includes serious grand jury indictments against the Southern Poverty Law Center. Because as you have seen in those indictments, it is wire fraud and bank fraud. And so that's why I mentioned the Al Capone strategy because Al Capone was notoriously an alleged murderer.

And I have to say alleged murderer because the convictions were for tax fraud. And that put him away in jail. And so, well, that's what I'm hearing is a strategy. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, because to your point, to your point, I was just going to say that, you know, it's soft power that ends up we hear, we see on the streets. how do you go after soft power, but you have to go a high up to the money. Before you go, Azra, first round by, who called into the show one time, I think first round by

describes himself as a Democratic socialist, by the way, viewer of Will King Country, which we appreciate. He said, I would love to get Azra and Will's take on what's happening at 60 minutes. So I give it to you, Azra, first. Yeah, you know, I grew up watching old school 60 minutes, and it's really, interesting because what has become really well liked by those who appreciate their work, Nick Shirley and others, is old school 60 minutes. You go with your microphone and you go into the parking lot and you're like, hey, what's up with this and that? We've lost that. I've seen it over decades now. You know, well, back in the day, CNN used to actually go in the field and not just

have a bunch of talking heads. And so I know that Barry Weiss has politics that many of those journalists in that newsroom do not appreciate. And unfortunately, I've come from that even at the Wall Street Journal. Well, I didn't realize the biases towards the left that existed. But I think that what I hope is that, you know, we will maintain something that a friend of mine calls agnostic journalism. No matter what your party, you will investigate. Let's take quick break. but continue this conversation with Fox News Digital Investigative reporter,

Azar Nomani, on Wilcane Country. It's all connected the money to organization behind the protests, the streamers, Cuba, China. Azernamani, Fox News Digital Investigative Reporter, joins us here on Wilcane Country. Yeah, my take on this really quickly is this. Look, I have worked inside CNN, I've worked inside ESPN, I've worked inside brands, that at the time I was at CNN had acquired the perception of objectivity. Even though when I was at CNN, people did presume it's on the left. It wasn't like it is today.

It was biased. So my point is, having been inside, and you've been at the Wall Street Journalizer, having been inside those institutions, their own bias is seen as objectivity. Okay, it's like, no, you know, we may be tilted in this way, but that's the way the truth is tilted. That's what they firmly believe. And then they have blinders on for any other point of view. And that creep has increased. Like, obviously, you've seen what's happened with CNN over the last 15 years.

And I think the same argument definitely could be made for 60 minutes, right? So, Barry Weiss, who, by the way, I think I have some disagreement with Barry Weiss on a whole host of political issues. Certainly in no way what I described Barry Weiss is somebody who's like, I don't know. Is she on the right? She's centrist, I would say pretty much. That doesn't mean she's, that doesn't mean she's objective. There's a difference between being centrist and objective, right? Objective is, I think, a real dedication to the pursuit of the truth, regardless of whether, where it goes. centrist is someone who constantly positions themselves between what the two perceived polls are at any given time. The problem is those polls change, shift, and move, and so you as a centrist move as well. I do think it's probably fair to describe Bari mostly as a centrist. That doesn't, in my mind, make it fair journalism.

It could help. But the bigger point I'm making is the reaction towards Bari Weiss is one, towards centricism. It's like, we're not going to tolerate even this. And so she comes in and she's going to make these changes. I definitely don't think she's making an organization that tilts to the right. I definitely don't think that. And to that small repositioning, it's the same thing I saw happened to Chris Licked at CNN. There's an essence of mutiny. And Scott Pelly thought he was the leader of that mutiny. And honestly, because he is so pompous and full of himself, he thought it would go a different way. He thought if he took his glasses off one more

time, it would persuade the American people. He's oblivious to his own bias, right? The interview that was given is, the interview that was given, he gave an interview and he said, Weiss or one of her deputies said, why do you think the American people think you're biased? And they rejected the idea that they're biased. Like, what, what poll do you have? What evidence do you have that the people think were biased? I mean, come on at this point. Yeah. So I think I think ultimately Pelley is a victim of his own ego. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, it's really fascinating watching CNN.

You know, Jim Acosta had that arrogance. Yeah. I would argue Cuomo did too. And of course, Don Lemon did. And they got so arrogant. There was no humility in their pursuit of truth. And that's really shocking to me. It's really not what journalism.

is supposed to be about, you know, we're always supposed to course correct if wherever the reporting takes us. And I will say that, you know, on this reporting that you and I do about this far left, it is untouched by these mainstream media outlets, you know, and we hardly have any competition from them until it becomes criminal and very serious. But boy, they don't even bring it up. And that's a failure, I believe, of the newsroom because I see one justice reporter after the next being assigned and I see great investigative reporter sidelined as you probably have also knowing them personally but that's ego and and I completely agree with you that you know there's no place really for ego when you're trying to pursue the truth

well as you know Moni's a senior editor for investigations of Fox News Digital you can read her newest pieces on this secretary of state sanctioned this Cuban organization and the secret signal chats that have organized what's going on outside Delaney Hall. I always love talking to her. Azana Amani, thanks for being with us today. Oh, thank you. I'm going to figure out what's going on on the ground in Texas next. In Dallas.

Yeah. I would love to know more about that. Oh, by the way, you know, since, thank you, Osra. Oh, thank you. Since first round by is here today and watching and listening, you know, I remember when he called in, he was not just apologetic, but very into Graham Platner. We've got to talk a little bit more about Grand Platner here. But in the weeks since, a lot has come out about Platner.

And it's pretty interesting to me how much is willing to be overlooked for Graham Platner. I'm going to get to that in just a moment. But who helps America go further, fly higher, dream even bigger? People do. Since 1879, our people have been more than a source of energy. They've been a source of progress. Today, that same progress is helping deliver record U.S. energy production, fueling the workers, the makers, the boundary pushers, and the risk takers who spark the breakthrough

that move America forward. Learn more about what our people do at chevron.com slash USA 250. By the way, one of the WNBA players has suggested they do not wear an America 250 logo or badge on their WNBA All-Star uniforms in celebration of our 205th anniversary. Why? I'm going to tell you about in just a moment. But if you'll remember a few weeks ago, we had Representative Kristen Robbins-on. She's a Republican member of the Minnesota House of Representatives. And she was talking about the vetting process of all of the Medicare Medicaid providers in the state of Minnesota, that after the revelation of Kristen, I don't know what we think.

$9 billion in fraud is the estimation in Minnesota that every provider had to go through a process of being re-verified. And at the end of our conversation, I said, I would love to know what you come up with. And since that time, I believe you guys have some numbers on what percentage of the providers were able to survive verification. Yes, only 37% were revalidated. It was a stunning number. And I know some are going through the appeals process, but fully 63% did not get revalidated. And so if that am I.

has been going on without proper ownership or registration or whatever the metrics are, it shows how the fraud could have happened. And I think $9 billion is conservative. But now that appeals process is going on. So we only had 37 percent get revalidated. And many people are appealing, but many more did not go through the appeals process. So those numbers, they now have 60 days for the appeal. We'll see what happens. But I've spoken to whistleblowers. from people involved in the revalidation, and they said it was not robust. So what they did is they basically filled out a form,

and the site visit people went to verify the location existed, and then they asked them to go through the form again, but they didn't get access to client records to prove the clients existed. They weren't allowed, they were not allowed to talk to employees or anyone besides the owner. So they only had to again rely on attestation, take their word for it.

rather than going through the billing records, going through the attendance records, they didn't get to look at any of it. So it's very disappointing. And that wiped out 61%. And that level of scrutiny wiped out 63%. Yeah. So and for the people that were not revalidated, to my knowledge, based on the whistleblower testimony, there's no ongoing look at them to say, well, since they didn't get revalidated, were they committing fraud? Like they're not looking at the billing. They're not looking at the attendance records.

It was just check the box. They exist. They don't exist. So it's good to see that that piece of this has happened, but we have a lot more to do to really understand what's going on in these programs. Yeah. In a way, they just raised their hand. Look into me for fraud. You know, right?

If 63% didn't survive. Yeah. somebody's got to do it. And you told us before, some great percentage of those didn't even try. So I don't know how many failed that minimum level of scrutiny, but a lot of them didn't even try, didn't even apply to be re-verified. And those are the ones I'd really be like, whoa, take a look at those. They don't want to reapply for their free checks they've been getting. That might have been fraud. Yes, no. And I do think, especially in the assisted living space, that is ongoing. And that's where we saw so few try to apply.

for this provisional licensure. It was shocking. But other big news today out of the House Oversight Committee, they have a bombshell report out today, verifying a lot of what our committee talked about. So glad to see the pressure is still on Tim Walts and Keith Ellison. We need to keep the pressure on. The House Oversight Committee put out a 200-page report today showing that Tim Walton and Keith Ellison knew about this fraud. We're told, we're warned. There's some indications as far back as 2019, definitely then by 2020 that they had heard about it. But the payments kept going for another two years. Nothing happened. I was on TV this morning talking about this, Kristen, and the report suggests that so many people involved were afraid of being called racist, that if you did

anything, you'd be called a racist. I think that's even probably a light explanation. If you let it keep going like that. I'm now concerned about quid pro quo. I'm now concerned about, you know, defrauding the American government, defrauding the taxpayers. And were you a participant? Oh, I agree. But I think the report clearly establishes, as our majority report did a few weeks ago, that they clearly knew that they not only turned a blind eye, but they covered it up. And their report and my report uses the word covered it up, suppressed, whistleblower. information and and we have very credible evidence on that. And so they knowingly covered up the fraud and allowed it to continue, allowed theft of taxpayer money to continue. And I feel like

this is really a breakthrough for national attention on this issue. They absolutely knew from 2019. There were two Office of Legislative Auditor reports on the child care fraud in March and April of 2019, Tim Wall's first year. And it was very big news at the time. So there's no way they didn't know. And instead of doubling down, they closed the criminal investigation unit on child care fraud. That's a perfect example of how they tried to cover it up. They closed down the investigation, the criminal unit.

The criminal investigation unit. Then they only allowed overpayment investigations. So no one was getting charged. So there was no more deterrent. Wow. And, you know, for their own accountability, if there's a criminal, if there's conspiracy to defraud the American government or aiding abetting a federal crime in that way, it would require quid pro quo, right? It would require not just that they overlooked or were negligent or, I mean, it would probably require they got something out of it too. And then this is where the voting mechanism and voting stuff comes in.

Is that a fair assessment? Mike, if there's going to be any more accountability beyond political, that's the next step it has to go. Yes. I definitely think there's plenty of whistleblower evidence saying that they suppressed or retaliated against whistleblowers because they were afraid of litigation and because they were afraid of media attention or be called racist. So the whistleblowers individually were afraid of being called racist and at ruining their careers. The administration was afraid of lawsuits and negative media attention, and they were protecting their political base. So all along, they clamped down on it because they were protecting a very strong element of their political base and a large donor group. Okay. All right.

That's good information. Thank you, Representative Christopher Robbins, for jumping back on with us today. We asked you to give us an update on that re-verification process. And we appreciate you bringing those new numbers to us. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Have a great day. All right.

There she is. A member of the Minnesota House of Representatives, Representative Kristen Robbins. Let's take a quick break, but continue this conversation on Will Kane Country. Welcome back to Will Kane Country, Tinfoil Pat, Two a Days, Dan, and myself working through a few stories. Let me go over here to your comments now. Budhaff or Buddha F says Carmelo's supporters will cuss you out and threaten you for saying that there's no reason

for anyone to have a knife at a school track meet but I mean it's against public it's against school policy you can't I mean you can't have a knife out of track me I don't know you can cuss me out you can threaten me all you want but it is what it is you can't have a knife like imagine that

like imagine one of your son's soccer teammates or another team had a knife had a soccer game. Crazy. Yeah, right. I was just thinking how many parents do in their pocket. I mean, a pocket knife isn't a normal thing to carry around. But this is a student. We're talking about a player. Right, true. Having one. Yeah. In their backpack. Over on Facebook, Antonio Terry says, racist people understand self-defense when it comes to Mr. Chow and George Zimmerman, although they were the aggressors, but in the same breath, defying their own logic when it comes to this Carmelo Anthony case. Okay.

All right. Self defense and crime itself, Antonio, is like every other thing in life. It is fact-intensive. You understand? And it may be hard to think rigorously and look at circumstances, because it's a lot easier to paint by numbers with a broad brush. Self defense, self-defense. Oh, must be the same, right?

Must be the same. But, you know, this is why, for example, we developed the judicial system, you know, a jury, a prosecution, a defense. Why do we do all this? To go through the facts one by one and see how something adds up, that's what we do. Like, I'm just going to read through this again. racist people understand, first of all, first two words. F-O-H, man. This is over.

This is over. It's over. Sorry, Antonio or anybody, it's over. You had your party. It's over. Calling people racist as a winning thing, it's done. People are tired of it. Fatigued.

We don't want to do it. We got nothing for it anymore. You call me racist. You call somebody racist as though it's a punctuation mark. it's not. It's an eraser. It erases anything you have to say. Done. Had power. Got drunk on that power six years ago. Not anymore. Racist people understand self-defense when it comes to Mr. Chow. Who's Mr. Chow? I don't know. Hold on. Am I forgetting that case? What is Mr. Chow? That's a restaurant, isn't it? Isn't that a restaurant in L.A? Yeah, Tribeca. Well, there's one, Tribeca.

I don't know the Mr. Chow case. They understand self-defense when it comes to George Zimmerman, although they were the aggressors. Okay. Is this a trans thing with the pronouns? They were the aggressors? George Zimmerman and Mr. Chow. I don't know the details of Rick Chow.

So I can't comment on that one because the facts are what matters. What's important here? George Zimmerman, I remember very specifically. So the implication here, according to Antonio, is George Zimmerman was the aggressor, but in the same breath defy their own logic when it comes to the Carmelo-Anthney case. No, logic is looking at the facts and circumstances and seeing what it lads up to in the conclusion. George Zimmerman did claim self-defense. The way that case went, according to the facts that we understood them, is George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin encounter each other in this subdivision. one approaches the other, I think it's Zimmerman, who says, what are you doing here?

There's a 911 call, remember? In the course of the 911 call, we don't know what we have it, and then I'll remember this specifically, 90 seconds we're missing. Inside that 90 seconds, we don't know what happened. So I want you to picture this, okay? You have a gap. You don't know what happens in that 90 seconds. In that 90 seconds, anything could happen. By the way, there's no witnesses.

It's just the two people. Two people, dark of night, no one knows. The popular narrative, as I'm assuming forwarded by Antonio, is that George Zimmerman attacked Trayvon Martin and killed him. Cold-blooded, murder for having a bag of Skittles. The other potentiality, and this is where logic comes in, because you don't know, so you have to think about the potentialities, right? We're going to get there. Is the George Zimmerman confronts Trayvon Martin. Maybe Trayvon Martin says, you don't know.

me, don't stop me, don't, what are you talking about? And Trayvon Martin then becomes the aggressor on George Zimmerman, wherein George Sherman then draws his gun after there's a fight and shoots, and Trayvon Martin dies. Now, is that a course of events that could have happened? The problem is we don't know because of the gap and the timeline and the lack of witnesses. Now take that into a courtroom. That we don't know is reasonable doubt. That is this burden of proof. Now go to Carmelo Anthony. In this case, we have video something like 15 to 20 witnesses.

We have the common sense that every human being you would think maintains of if somebody shoves you is it self-defense to kill them. Right? I mean, to me, that's the end of the case, by the way.

Shove, kill. Not purportedly. not self-defense. So this, what I'm doing, what I'm walking through, the specific facts of each case, by the way, has nothing to do with race. Race has not been a factor in any of the facts as laid out. And if you think, for example, I'm racist, there were any number of cases, by the way, because what people do is they like to paint by numbers when it was a black athlete with a woman who got suspended by the NFL or convicted in the court of popular opinion without sufficient evidence where I defended the black athlete on the same exact rationale.

That's rationale. That's logic. That is an open and shut case for Carmelo Anthony. Done. It's so obvious that I would genuinely hope that any black juror sitting on that jury would see the same thing. would they? By the way, now's what you said.

There is no black juror. Mr. Chow was the gas station owner who shot the black teen ageer and was acquitted of that in self-defense. Do you remember that story? I don't remember that case. What year?

I think it wasn't that long ago. I mean, I remember so many of these cases. Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown. Oh, it was like days ago. Brianna Taylor. Jacob Blake. Oh, it was just days ago? Yeah, I don't know that case.

The verdict came days ago. It was from 2023. The verdict came out days ago. I don't know the case. The facts are what matters. I don't know the case. But still similar. Fannie Mae on YouTube says,

using skin tone is no excuse for criminal behavior, let alone murder. Of course. Of course. Narcissistic Nihilis says, there's no defense. This is just a formality. We all know that kid walked in there,

knowing what would happen, armed. He done it, period. He sure seemed to be asking for it. He sure seemed to be asking for the confrontation. He sure seemed to be asking for the potential to stab somebody. Here's a thought exercise. Okay, back to Antonio over on Facebook. If Austin Metcalf were black and Carmelo Anthony were black, how would your opinion change on this?

That's interesting. Mine would. Mine would be the same. I think the people outside the courthouse would change. Mine would be the same. They wouldn't be there. Right. They wouldn't be there.

Doesn't that tell you something? Doesn't that tell you something? The provocative thing to say is reverse the racial rules, right? How would that be? If a white kid had stabbed a black kid. We know the same scenario. By the way, my opinion wouldn't change. My opinion wouldn't change.

Would yours? The Internet would. Would you be defending the white kid? would you be defending the white kid on the basis of self-defense? My opinion wouldn't change. Because the facts don't change. The race of the characters involved don't change the facts. But if that's all too inflammatory and send your brain into haywire, just make them both black.

Just make them both black. Or both white? Whatever. Whatever. Try it that way and see how logic works. First round by is a big fan of Grand Platner. I don't know if that's changed over time. My suspicion is no.

Let's ask him. My suspicion is no. Bill Marr and, and then Kurt Schlichter has on this show quite a bit have talked about. Here Democrats have embraced another, what do they call it? Sex creep. Is that what Bill Maher called it? A sex creep? Correct.

Pest? Was that the word? So people, Kurtzlitz is writing about this. Like, Democrats, first of all, having such trouble with men in general, but white men in particular, have really, really picked themselves some gyms going forward. James Tallerico, Grand Platner. But there's another one, guys, that people aren't talking about.

I got a better one. Do you guys know who Scott Wiener is? Scott Wiener is the California congressman who, who he's been a state, he's been a state congressman. And he's been one of the guys that like forwards, he's forwarded the law to like clawback. Is it wealth taxes from anybody that leaves? He's really forwarded some crazy laws in California.

And you can kind of dismiss it like, oh, it's California, you know, whatever. Well, he's now won the Democrat primary for, for U.S. Congress, Nancy Pelosi's seat. and I got to imagine he's going to win like he's going to win the general election this is Scott Weiner I've got him up in studio right here yeah

shredded yeah for those listening black jeans no shirt black backpack black tie so no shirt but a tie I believe this was during a pride

pride parade so would you call this pride formal Yes. So it is the Pride formal? No, semi-formal because he doesn't have to ball gag. Yeah.

No shirt. Semi-formal. Yeah. I love that you have these in your phone. I just saved him for the show. This one's a little fuzzy. He's standing here with a dude. He's got some, I don't know, tight jorts on.

It's a look. Who might have judged on jorts? And what do you call that thing they wear around their chest? What is that thing? a brace? Like a leather harness? Yeah. A harness.

A harness. Right? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, like a horse. Like, you know, that a horse would pull a... There's a latch on the back. A buggy with.

Yeah. It's from what I've heard. Yeah, Democrats are picking some real gems in their effort to... This is actually why. Scott Weiner and James Tallerico are why Graham Platner is popular. Yes. Don't you think, Dan? Yes.

Actually, yes. Isn't that the point of view of the Brooklyn Brunch crew? Absolutely. You're right. They could overlook a Nazi tattoo, but they can't overlook that stuff. Meaning they want somebody that reads a little more masculine, a little more. Is the word normal? Because Plattner's not normal.

I mean, he comes off normal. It doesn't have a normal background. But if you were to look at him and listen to him, he could seem normal. So that thing that I've said before, it's 80% how you look, 15% how you sound. 5% what you say. You tell me, Platner has the 95%. How you look, Nazi tattoo and all. 15% you know, how you sound.

He's got that deep voice like you, Dan. And it's only 5% that he jerks off in porta-potties because he's turned on by the blue liquid. That should be a bigger percentage, I'd say. But yeah, close. Honestly, of all the things that's the deal killer, I'm the one that keeps saying that one on TV more. Everybody else is talking about, oh, you know, he's a toxic boyfriend,

and he's, you know, got the Nazi tattoo. To me, to me, if the Nazi tattoo didn't kill it, the jerking off in porta-potties shoulda. Like, that was the one that tips the boulder over the top. Like, he goes into porta-potties and he gets turned on. That ought to be enough. Okay, folks, we're done here. It is like, Reddit.

He's probably just joking around. What group that decided to bring him on as a candidate was like, that's fine. We know about this. It's okay. People will look past this. Patrick, you think he's not really masturbating in Port-a-Potties? There's probably a treason of truth, a seat of truth to it. But like, I think he also was embellishing slightly on that.

Like he did it once and then. Yeah. Like in the army. Like in the army or wherever he was in. Was he a Marine? What was he? Yeah, Marine. that's where he would have gone

that's where they would have gone for a little bit of privacy yes well they're probably I used to work on few places of privacy and so he went in there for privacy and he's saying

to this day the smell he's this is what he wrote the smell of that blue water turns him on yeah yeah I mean whatever whatever gets you going there bud no

no not whatever gets you know that's not what No. Not whatever gets you going. Yeah. Okay. You don't even believe that because that's why you like Platner over Scott Weiner. Where are all the normal ones?

Let's where are all the regular guys? That's exactly my point. Yeah. That's exactly my point. Are you saying there are none? Yeah. I think there are none. We have to be some sort of crazy to run for office anyway.

That's a shame. We could fix that with term limits. Yeah. I think we can fix that with term limits. Take the ego out of it. Get more normal people. Well, I think the problem is that it's like if you're a successful normal person, what's the upside? None.

And running for office. Zero. Now, okay, you say, well, it should be service, but it doesn't become service, right? It becomes a career. So what's the upside? and if you said, look, you're only going to be able to serve for four to eight years, whatever we set the term limits at, then I think more people who had been successful in life could see themselves sacrificing the time in their life, the career, stepping away from their careers for that period of time. That would be a big sacrifice for anyone. But I think you would get higher quality people with term limits.

Yeah. That's my belief. I don't think it matters. First round by, just saying he said more police. political parties. He wants a Democratic Socialist of America and all that stuff. I think you just get a lot of narcissists as politicians anyway. I'm not unconvinced I don't know him, by the way.

So you know him? First time by? Yeah. You think you know him? It might be one of my friends that's just pretending that he's not one of my friends. No, I'm kidding. Well, he called in. Did you recognize his voice?

It sounded a little familiar. You guys all sound the same. Hey, what? Patrick, what's this WNBA star's name? Is she the biggest star in the WM? No, she's not. I don't. You can't ask me a freaking WNBA question like I know.

Don't get them started. Come on. Nobody watches that. Brianna Turner. Brianna Turner. It's close to that lady, the famous case in Kentucky, right? That was Brianna Taylor. This is Breonna Turner, Las Vegas Aces Ford.

By the way, who's the- killing? Who's the best player in the WNBA? It's not Caitlin Clark. I mean, in terms of what everybody says? You know what I mean? Like, I've seen, like, Instagram videos. This girl just dropped 30 on her.

Hold on. Let me see if I can guess it. Let me see if I can guess it. The person plays for the Las Vegas Aces as well, right? The perceived best player in the WMBA. And I think her name starts with an A. Ah, yeah. I got it.

Asia? Ajja Hawkins. Oja Hawkins? Nope. First name I'm correct. Oh. Aja? Yep.

Woodrow. Oja Woodrow. Woodrow. What's his last name? Wilson? Aja Wilson? That's right. And then Brianna...

Salute to me was Woodrow Wilson. Yeah. And then Brianna Stewart's second New York Liberty. She was a UCon player. She's great. If I say the last name, Wilson, is Woodrow the first place you go or Russell?

Oh, damn, I didn't think of Russell. It's not Russell. Yeah, but Woodrow's so obvious that you would know. If I said Russell. Wade Wilson? Tim Allen's neighbor. That's what I would think. No.

Woodrow is so obvious, though. The volleyball? The volleyball in Castaway? Yeah. Castaway, pal. So Brianna Turner says that she doesn't think the WMBA should wear the USA 250 commemorative uniform patches honoring the 250 birthday of America. Why? Because she said 250 years ago the women of the WNBA would not be citizens.

I think she said they would have been used for breeding and for manual labor. Yikes. So, therefore, we can't celebrate America's 250th anniversary. The WMBA shouldn't be celebrating it. They're real on a real PR campaign to make everybody like them. It's crazy. First of Kail and Clark thing. The WMBA, if you put together a PR campaign to, like, ensure you do not grow your audience

and you have the smallest audience possible, you would come up with what they do in the WMBA. They literally could not. They probably could not be worse in terms of, hey, what could we do to make sure everybody doesn't like us? They're doing it. Fantastically, too. I mean, they are nailing it. If you don't want people to watch, go for it. Think about it.

The entire league is based off of being bailed out by the NBA and being handed this thing that they don't actually do anything to earn. So like nobody's watching this thing. Nobody's watched this thing for 30 years. Sports Center plays a lot of highlights. Because they have the rights to it. I know. That's it. I watch Sports Center on the weekend.

There's a lot of WMBA I learned. But do you really? And this is why no one's watching ESPN. Like who wants to watch WMBA highlights? Even women don't watch this thing. And so like they have this, I don't know, this. I watched some women's softball last week. I did too.

I watched Texas. Enjoyed it too. Yeah. I watched Texas be Texas Tech in the Women's College World Series. I was watching college baseball, too. But at least women's softball. I watched college baseball last night. It's different than men's baseball.

It's like they have the windmill pitch. It's a little different. It's a different game. You should go up against the women of basketball from WMBA. Who me? Yeah. I would get my butt hana to me. Of course.

I know. Yeah. I'm saying like it's like 16th tier. The softball is more interesting. I don't know what it is. They do play on a very small field. I think this is part of it. I do think this is part of it.

Like, it's just not, I mean, the WNBA, you don't hang around with somebody that constantly says, I don't like you. You know, why would you hang around with that person? So that's kind of what the WNBA's constant message is to most of America. So, yeah, I'm not that interested. Wasn't that good of a product to start with. Don't celebrate 250. Finally, I mentioned this at the very start of the show. and we got a hit on this. So Spencer Pratt's now falling out. He's not in the top two in the race for Los Angeles mayor.

Look, here's what I will say about this so far. There's a lot of people talking about the integrity of this election, okay, and in drawing questions. Well, what I would first of all say is those are not irrational. Those are not irrational conspiracy theory concerns. When you drag an election out like this, now we're going on a week. It's going to keep going, so it's going to be multiple weeks. you will breed mistrust in your elections. Don't believe me. Listen to the governor of California, Gavin Newsom. He has said the exact same thing. It breeds mistrust to have election results and then go, oh, we got to wait for another

couple of weeks while the ballots continue to trickle in. As the ballots continue to trickle in, everyone's like, well, these mail-in ballots, which they have in California, and they have really, really lax rules on voter ID. Have you guys seen that? You can use your gym membership card to prove up who you are. I got mail-wis. To vote in California. It overwhelmingly indexes a Democrat.

But the weird thing about what's going on in LA is there's two Democrats, Karen Bass and Nithia Rahman. And the votes seem to be advantaging, largely, Nithia Rahman right now, catching Spencer Pratt. So it's not the number one Democrat racking up a ton more vote. She's got more. It's the third-place Democrat that's, racking up tons and tons and tons more, catching Spencer Pratt. And that's pretty weird.

That's pretty suspect. And I just think the whole thing is embarrassing for California, beyond embarrassing. And I mean, if you're, you know, I hear from people who are in California who are conservative or Republican or want something different for their state, how disincentivized would you have to get at some point? How demoralized would you have to get? Not just with the continuation of the policies that have led to the ruin of L.A., but in the way you conduct elections in your belief in your ability to make a change. I think we know the answer. The answer on how demoralized they are are how many of them are living here in Texas.

But the ones that state are still so liberal. I'm pointing to one right now. There's still a lot of liberals there. That's the crazy part. That's why it's hard for anyone like Spencer Pratt to win because of that. Well, and it'll be a death spiral. It'll be a death spiral. as more and more of them leave.

I think we got some friends coming in from California this coming weekend to look at houses. I'm dead serious. This weekend. Coming from California to look at houses in Texas. Hopefully in Frisco, right? All right, that's going to...

Getting cheaper there. No, that's what they're going to look at. All right, that's going to do it for us today. Thanks for hanging out. We appreciate Azer and Amani representative of Christopher Robbins as well. We hope you will follow us on Spotify or Apple. We'll see you again tomorrow.

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