Will Cain Country - Karoline Leavitt OUT as Press Secretary! Who Replaces Her? (ft. Vince August & Pops Houston)

Episode Date: August 13, 2026

Karoline Leavitt has officially stepped down from the position of White House Press Secretary. Who’s stepping in to replace her? Comedian and Former Judge Vince August joins the show to help break down what the best options for her replacement could be, and react to a new study that ranks Idaho of all places as the number one place to live in the U.S., with the former "armpit of America," New Jersey, in second and Texas in 36th place. Plus, Evangel Eagles Quarterback Pops Houston stops by to take Will, Vince, and The Crew inside the new season of FOX Nation’s ‘God. Family. Football.’ as well as explain his decision to commit to LSU and what makes Evangel Christian Academy so special. Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠⁠@WillCainNews) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A representative from the highly ranked armpit of America. Today, here on Wilcane Country. Wilcane Country streaming live at the Wilcane Country YouTube channel, the Wilcane Facebook page. Hit follow at Spotify or on Apple. Here today, tinfoil pat and comedian, lawyer, judge. Representative of the armpit of America. You're literally going to say that to an Italian from Jersey. New Jersey.

Do you know, we know all the spots to bury the bodies. What do you weigh? A buck 60? That hole's going to be shallow. I don't even have to bring a shovel for that one. I could dig that one with my hands. Are you kidding me? That you're going to talk smack?

I weigh 183. I would like to get down. That's, that's, I would like to get down to about 177. That's going to require discipline. The 177 is the weight. You know, I've never cared about weight. I really haven't. Like in my life, like weight hasn't been a focus at scale.

But lately, you just get wise over time. You learn things about yourself. It's amazing how it could take half a century to learn things about yourself. I interviewed the vice president of the United States this morning, NBD. Sorry, I will brag. Go ahead. Name drop. And, you know, I realized something about myself.

I didn't realize. I reaffirmed something about myself. Yes. My brain, if you said to me, when is your brain the sharpest? When are you putting in the least effort for the absolute maximum outcome? It's 10 a.m. The interview was scheduled for 1030, 930, 10 in that range. And I was prepared.

I knew what I wanted to talk to him about. But there are times when you're doing something and whatever. The next word comes easy. The next thought is right there in your palm. So what you're saying is... And there are other times. There are other times when you're like, oh, oh, grab, grab, oh, I tripped on that word. But you know what I'm saying?

Right. And honestly, 3 p.m. Central, 4 p.m. Eastern time is not my sharpest time a day. Right, which is a great time to give you a Fox TV show. That's a, yeah. 100%. Yeah. That was perfect programming for you. So let me ask you.

So between the earring, between the loafers, and wanting to get down to 177, how hard does your wife laugh at you every day when she sees you? That's the question I wanted. I mean, what, you, Tala Rico, you're going to make fun of Jersey. Everybody in Texas is turning into a metrosexual. What is this? And you're going to make fun of my state? is all, man, I've hunted enough to know what it looks like when an animal is cornered. And you are so flailing.

All you got to do is call Jersey the armpit of America. And it's like, see, the thing is when you know that an animal is flailing, it uses its teeth, it uses its fingernails. It swings wildly. You're hitting earrings and you're hitting, you're hitting weight. You're just trying to land in. You are on the tower with your bow and arrow. But you don't see your target. All you know is you're under attack.

Because it's trying to lose weight like a teenage girl. Let me see what I can get it. I don't see my target because it's trying to lose weight like a teenage girl. Listen to you, 177. Just. Okay. Let me ask you a question. This is back to like I'm smartest at this time of day. I'm 51 years old.

You learn things about yourself. You know things. You accumulate this knowledge over time. I've never cared about the scale. Okay. I've been privileged. in that way. I've never really dealt with like, you know, obvious.

And not because I'm super disciplined. Not because I've turned down the donut. Like, you know, oh, you've put on 15, 20 pounds. You've got to get a different size of clothes. I haven't ever had to deal. But I know now, you know, okay, but if you look the way you want to look, like in a swimsuit, in the summer or whatever. 182, 183 doesn't cut it.

That's not where you want to be. I have now targeted. I know what it is. It used to be just lift a little harder will or do something. It's one, it's roughly 177 is my way in for the fight of life. That's where, and don't act like you don't know what your number is. Most dudes out there, no. They know what.

I think that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you're feminizing some. Vince. No. I know you have a target weight. I don't. I have no target weight. I literally, I eat, I work out, I train. As long as my clothes still fit right.

As long as when I get out of the shower, I don't want to jump into a box of razor blades. Then I know. That's what I don't need a scale to tell me this is your right weight. No, I don't either. The mirror does the job. The mirror does the job. You pulled 177 out of your ass to start the show.

Are you kidding me? But I'm saying I'm saying I have correlated the mirror to a number now. And now I know. That's what I'm saying. Yes. That's what I know. Congratulations. That's great.

What size dress are you? Oh, my God. All of this. All of this. What's the first topic? Look at this guy. He's killing me. Check your phone.

All of this because we dared to. What do you check? You're not even, how many calories you had today? I'm trying to. find this, here it is, all this because I dared to quote the New York Post. I didn't call New Jersey the armpit of America. I simply quoted the New York Post, Vince, and here's what the headline reads. Once known as the armpit of the nation, that is rough when you say it out loud like that,

the armpit of the nation. What would be worse? The butt crack of America. We could get to that in a minute. But known as the armpit of the nation. Right. New Jersey is now ranked as the second best state to live in. What's one? Here's who's first.

Yeah. All right. Meaning, New Jersey came in second, right? Who do we have to take out? As the best state to live in. Yeah, who are you going to bury in that shallow? Who are we got to take out? Who are we got to whack?

Take out weight stats. We got to whack. One of the program. Yeah. It's our other fellow frequent guests that you got to take out. Number one. Right. Idaho.

Oh. They are no threat to us at all. No threat to us at all. Are you kidding me? We've got beaches, the best beaches. Maybe some of the best beaches in the country. I'll throw it out there. We have food.

We have culture. We have proximity to New York City. We have sports teams. Yeah. Come on. What are you kidding me? We're centrally located on the East Coast where you could get to anywhere within a couple hours of a plane ride. Are you kidding me?

What are you doing in Idaho? good luck I'll take Jersey over Idaho I need that yeah come on I can hear my neighbors from my living room

Idaho you have to drive 18 miles to find another person come on let's do it number one baby Patrick Patrick Florida came in at number 10 okay

we all have we all have our rooting interest here we all treat this like our sports teams where's Texas so my me point And just, just, we need him. Somebody to mute him. Well, it is the butt crack of America.

Where is taxes on that? Hold on. We're going to get to the butt crack of America. It's sitting in the Will Kane Show studios right now, I feel like, in New York. Patrick, Florida came in at number 10. I'm not sure that gives you an objective place from which to judge, because you're probably pretty proud of being a top tenor. I don't care.

This is my opinion. This list is an absolute joke. This is garbage. Listen to wallet hub, bow your head in shame. Texas came in, your answer, at 36. By the way, that's where all the South is. Louisiana 49, Arkansas 46, Mississippi 48, Alabama 39, Georgia 27, South Carolina 38, North Carolina 26, Tennessee 40. whatever this list is, it is totally prejudiced against the South.

It's the humidity. Look who's getting mad now. I'm just saying. And by the way, totally contrary. California is coming in above all of those southern states, by the way, just about, comes in at 31. totally contrary to the choices of actual Americans. Like if you did a ranking, how about you just look at U-Haul? Why don't you see where people are choosing to move and to live?

And let's see. I believe, and this is off the top of my head, the top states people are moving two, two. Your top four, I'm betting I'm right on this, Patrick, are Texas, Florida, South Carolina, and Tennessee. All right. Getting serious. Yeah.

That's why we're so low is because we have all this mass immigration into our state. People need to leave. Please leave. And then look, New York comes in at 12. Right. People are fleeing New York. How are they not getting your message, Wallet Hub? But let's get serious for a second.

I think the key question is with regards to that, at what age? And where are you in your life? And it's because really if you're looking for work, and you're just out of college and you want to live near a major city where you're more likely to get jobs, things like that. Or are you at the tail end of your life where you're looking to retire and you can't afford the taxes of New Jersey? I think it really matters what stage of your life you're in when you start picking these places that you're going to live and retire and where you can live and retire. If I were giving a young person advice, I might tell them, hey, sure, go spend a year or, or two in New York. But don't build your career in New York. So, you know, this, Dallas, Atlanta,

Nashville, like, these are places that I would be saying. So I don't, I don't think I buy your your premise. Like, you want to start your life, start it in the Northeast. No, I'm not saying it depends on what your career is. If you're going to get into areas of finance, if you're going to get into areas of media and, things like that. There were certain cities you're going to move to, certain places that obviously are a better fit. If none of that matters, if you're getting into medicine, if you're getting into elder care, where are you going to move? You're going to move to Florida. Depending on what area, and obviously New York has more opportunity for employment just because of where business is looking.

Now, that could change in the next four or five years, but in terms of where you're going to work, where you're going to find work, where you're going to, you know, then there's also what, you know, what type of lifestyle do you want to have? If you live in the northeast, you have close proximity. Do you know what? In the winter, I want to go skiing. In the summer, I want to go to the beach. I want to be near a major city.

There are certain areas. It depends on lifestyle needs. And I think certain areas are more conducive to that. And listen, also, New York City still right now, if you want to go back to the Roman Empire, where are you going to live as close to Rome as possible. It's still New York City. Rome is fallen. Right.

Rome has fallen. Well, hey, listen. Rome has fallen. Exactly. So it's New York. It's falling. I don't know. It's like AM radio.

It's like people say it's fallen, but I mean, it's still got a lot of pull. Right. We're on AM radio right now. Let's take a quick break, but we'll continue this with comedian, lawyer, judge, Vince August. When we come back on Will King Country. Get your tickets now for the dog stars. It's no surprise how fast. civilization can disappear.

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If I were showing you my top three, Justin, take that full screen. I don't know if I can point. I'm going to show you my my three circles can i reach it's hard to reach and stay on the microphone circle number one right here texas okay wow circle number two i actually agree it's this little area right here montana idaho wyoming this corner right here that's good america that's good america and then circle number three you ready right here tennessee north carolina south carolina right over in here

Boom. This corner right here where you get Knoxville, what is that? That's Columbia, South Carolina. That's, you know, Asheville, North Carolina. That's the three circles of America that you want to target right there. I agree with your second and third. I think your first is a little biased. And also, if you think of a butt crack where a butt crack is located, bottom center. So pretty close. That says Texas. Pretty close. Yeah. Pretty close. I mean, yeah, look at that thing. Looks like a hemorrhoid hanging. I mean, that's as close as it gets. You get to me? He's so upset.

He's so upset with the rankings. I'm just, look at him. I'm trying to visualize the country in a different, I'm like, well, the butt crack, what if he's looking down and his butts up in the air? Then the butt crack would be right up there, you know, Minnesota. No, you know, you know it's there. Because if, listen, Florida is clearly the phallic symbol.

So what's between Florida? and the taint, and then it's Texas. I mean, it's right there for you. Florida, taint, Texas, crack. What does that make California and all that? The back? What's that made, California and all that? The back?

Yeah. California is the herniated disc that brings you pain all day long. And you're the head. Is that up there in the northeast? You're like the head of America? That's that, baby. The brains, right there. Gross.

Our beautiful, bold head right there. Forget about it. it. Well, fine. We'll just keep America running down here in the butt crack. Everybody's moving to the butt crack somehow. The news of the week is Caroline Levitt, White House Press Secretary, is leaving the White House shortly after she's returned from maternity leave, setting off a flurry of brainstorming sessions about who is going to replace Caroline Levitt. Now, there's already been quite a suggestions on who that could be. Of course, everybody's favorite. Do everything. The administration

figure is Marco Rubio, finding out he's the new White House press secretary. Looking good. This joke, he got Marco in a red, what do you call it, like a pencil, pencil skirt, suit, pants, not pants. It's like a power dress. What do you call that with a lady? Is that a blouse and a skirt? No, that's a dress. matching blouse and skirt? It's not a dress. It's not one piece. It's two. Oh, it is a dress. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like a power. It's like a power dress. What if it's separated? What if it's a skirt and then a top, but they match in the same? Would you call that a blouse on top? What do you call that? It'll be a skirt and a blouse. But this would appear to be more than a blouse. I don't like that word. Almost like a sweater material. I don't like the word blouse. I'm not a fan. He's got blonde, blonde hair. So there have been some suggestions.

We all know President Trump. Patrick has suggested. Patrick took to social media. He suggested Michael Malice. Did you screenshot your own tweet, Patrick? I'm sure you did. Yep. I might have.

Here he goes. He has suggested Michael Malice for White House Press Secretary. Some others, David Marcus, has suggested Shane Gilli. for press secretary, that would be pretty phenomenal. That would be great. President Trump loves the visual medium of television. Whoever this is is going to be attractive. That's, can we, right?

Like, if you're placing your odds, start there, somewhat attractive. Well, if we're going to go attractive and tough, not the actress. I think her name is Kelly Riley, but the character that she plays. plays on Yellowstone. Beth from Yellowstone. She would be probably an amazing press secretary, right? What is that? Dutton Ranch, Beth?

Oh, are you kidding me? I'm watching press conferences all day. Yeah. She has to do the character, though. Yeah, no, in character. Not the, yeah. And even better, sidekick. The actress is English. Is she English, Irish? Yeah, but her as Beth. And here's an even one, better one. Sidekick right next to her.

Sophie Cunningham calling on people with the point, doing the point from the WNVA game. That's how you know it's your turn. And then Beth just runs rough shot right all over you. Are you kidding me? That's entertainment at his best right there. Done. Honestly, one of my least favorite characters.

Who, Beth? In all TV shows. Are you serious? Yes. Oh, yes. What is happening with this? Yes. And I actually am going to start this movement.

Oh, my God. I think that Hollywood has done women dirty. All of these main women characters in these series, let's be real, they're awful. They're awful. Beth is awful. Dude, if I watch... She is unpleasant. Oh, you're out of your mind.

I don't know why anyone would want to spend more than five minutes around Beth. She's not funny. She always has a caustic line. Get out of here. Let me tell you something. If I watch Yellowstone. Okay, go ahead. Skylar White?

Scholar White? Terrible. Terrible in Breaking Bad. Carmelo Soprano, please. Why is every woman character have to be such a wet blanket? You can keep going. Laura Linney's character from Ozark?

Oh my God, I can't wait for the next scene. I'll tell you one, but I'm watching right now. House of Dragons. Ray Nira, the main character. Yeah, terrible. done. Right. And it wasn't, by the way, it wasn't in season one or two. Season three, terrible character. She has, I am, like, I want her to lose the throne so bad. I'm so tired of her. I spent the first two seasons rooting for her to get to the throne and now she's there. I hate her.

She sucks. I want anybody else. I'm with you on that one. Beth from Yellowstone. If I'm watching Doughton Ranch and Yellowstone and mixed companies, she comes on, I need to cover my lap with a pillow because let me tell you that is the hottest there is something sexy and that toughness maybe it's because I'm a Jersey guy and I like tough. There is something about her. Oh no.

I want to see the thread. I want to see people tell me that they're not dying for a woman like Beth. Are you kidding me? Dude, are you out of your mind? I think there's a chance that I will

I think there's a chance I'll lose this debate in a public sphere. I think there's a chance. I haven't really workshopped this one with a focus group of dudes. I do think that's interesting that maybe that's Jersey. Like I feel like yeah, there's a lot of tough women in Jersey. Do you guys have a secret fetish

to be like masochistic? Maybe just emotionally masochistic. You want to be like pushed around, bossed around, beat up. You want to slink into your house and worry about getting in trouble? I'm not intimidated. We want toughness. We want toughness. That's part of, let me tell you

something. Growing up Sicilian in New Jersey, foreplay is literally yelling at each other for five minutes over dinner. That is foreplay for us. That's how we turn each other on. That's terrible man. That's terrible. You've never watched the Sopranos. Yeah. Are you kidding

me? I have more padding in my bedroom than I do. In this walls right here that's trying to absorb the sound. Okay. What is that psych? What is that like a like deeps that's interesting like I'm

I'm gonna be honest with you I think I this is we're way way coloring outside the lines now I think Italian women are very attractive I think that Latinas are very attractive

but I'm gonna be real I'm not attracted to what you just described from a like interpersonal relationship standpoint right like you're making me tired I don't want to bicker over whatever you're bickering over. I'm bickering and, um, hairpin trigger. That's exhausting. I'm out. Like you, you, this is no. I want, I want, I want Marissa Tomei from my cousin Vinny.

I want somebody with attitude. She's beautiful. I want, yeah. I agree. I want attitude. I don't want all the extra. No, the extras of fun. What do you want? Some demure little, no, dude, are you out of your mind? I want a threat of being stabbed in my relationship. I want to know that someone is going to keep me in line. I want to, yes, yes, I need that. I need that threat of if I'm going to get out of line, someone's going to put me in line. Yes.

This is why Rome is like the capital of the romantic. Exactly. And romance. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. This is deep. This is the kind of stuff we're not allowed to talk about.

Like, what am I? We're talking about it. Like, if you go back, no, man, I'm like, I'm Scots-Irish. You know, I'm like Scottish Protestants who moved to Ireland for a while, and then they went to the South of America, everybody else. And that's not a trait, what you're describing. That is not a way that relationships are conducted. That is not behavior between men and women.

And it's so interesting that, yeah, Italy to Jersey, to Staten Island. Like, what is it? you keep using that word because it's the range you want the range and the range is could be tough if there's a brawl

in a bar you know she's got your back you got her back and at the same time you know what there is an emotional mess as every woman you will ever meet in your life and it's good too

because then you could be that guy we want the range I don't want somebody in here I want somebody that I knew can lose their shit at a drop of a dime with me. And I got to be like, listen, dude, no, listen, I don't want to fight you, but she's going to kick your ass. That's what I want. That's the best.

You're not really very good at this show. Usually your answers and all that kind of thing. That's the best answer that you've ever given. The range thing really speaks to me. It does. That speaks to me now. I want the range. I've always said, I'm not a suburbs guy.

I'll never live in the suburbs. I will live in the city or in the sticks. I like extremes. Generally, I do like extremes. I don't like lukewarm. And the way you just now turn that into like I get the variety, I get, that spoke to me a little more. I'm going to be honest. That spoke to me.

Now, I just don't like pointless bickering. That is, I hate pointless bickering. That's not pointless. It's not pointless. It's, you know, it's just, it's the emotion. See, you think it's bickering. And I tell people, anyone that's ever come over at my house for a holiday, it's like, listen, it sounds like we hate each other. You're going to hear yelling and screaming.

This isn't, you're walking into an opera house. This is going to be loud. There's going to be, we play poker. You think we're playing for birth rights. See, my family's a little like this too, Vin. So I don't, there's no Italian in my 23 and me that I'm aware of. We do fight. Now, my wife, if she were here, she'd be like, Will, you are described.

your family. I'm like, you know what? You're right. We bicker. We fight pointlessly. We do have tempers a little bit. So I maybe, I don't know. I'm going to be the stir. If you invited me that Thanksgiving or whatever that was, San Gennaro Festival, I would walk through the front door being like, all right, where's the tension? Let's get after it. Yeah. And it's great too, because you know what? We always know what each other's feeling. Like if Thanksgiving dinner, if something doesn't taste good, literally someone will say, no, this isn't your best. Yeah, what happened? What happened with the stuffing this year? Oh, we let each other know. The worst thing you could do is ask in Italian, so how do I look? Oh, you're getting it. You're going to

find out. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. You're really starting to speak to me. This is the most persuasive Vince August has ever been. Honesty. Like, I don't like the English way of living. I don't want everything to be subtext. No. Who wants that? Some Canadian always apologizing. No. No.

Yeah. Right. But never meaning it truthfully. Like I saw you last week in that ridiculous white shirt. I called you out immediately. That's what my house is at Thanksgiving. Which one? That awful white shirt that you wore.

Which one? The same. As you walked on. Yeah. The one with the tan. Yeah. That linen thing that you came on. Like you were still at club med or something like that.

You came out. Was it the Searsucker shirt? See, the fact that you know what kind of shirt it is, it is even more embarrassing. See, today, nice, it's black, it's sleek, it is with it, regular polo. That's it, nice. It's in a subconscious. Yeah, I didn't wait. This is very Italian.

Look at what I'm wearing. It's a little fitted too much throughout, you know, it's a little Italian. You saw that list, and you saw Jersey number two, and you said, you know what, I'm going to start assimilating today, just in case. Just in case I want to move from 36 to two. We still have to get you some chains. Yeah, I just need a chain, Patrick. Then I'd be a little more Italian today.

I'm tanner and Vince. I look more Italian than Vince right now. Well, it's just the studio lighting. He's very tan. No. Let's take a quick break, but we'll continue this with comedian, lawyer, judge, Vince August, when we come back on Will King Country. Patrick, you said that if you got famous, you would behave like Howard Stern.

Yes. Well, would you do this? Apparently, there is an insane. That's the quote. Again, I don't want Vince to think like I called New Jersey the armpit of America. I'm calling this insane because I'm just reading the headline. Howard Stern Show, insane women-only dress code revealed. Okay.

It's like they got the Pentagon papers. Revealed, colon, report. Oh, good. Here we go. There is a rule that doesn't matter what kind of footwear men wore. But women are not allowed to wear sneakers at work. An insider, told the outlet. Times have changed, but also maybe don't have different rules for men and women, said the insider.

That's insane. According to the insider, Stern would say stuff like, some people around here look like zombies from the walking dead. We look like a college radio station. We look like we have homeless people working here. It's off-putting and scary. work on your appearance. I'm not saying we're a suit and tie organization, but you need to upgrade your appearance,

stop being slubby and embracing homeless looks. All right, Patrick, are we with Howard Stern? I think so. I mean, like, when you go in an office, well, no, I don't know. I say F it, just wear whatever you want. Wear whatever you want. No, I think I'm with Stern. Now, I don't know about the men,

versus women thing. I don't know how you can differentiate sneakers. Quit being, quit being, you are such a gender studies guy, Vince. Quit pointing at me. I don't know. No, you're right. You're right. I'm agreeing with you. The men versus, I know, but I don't like it. The minute you started agreeing with me, I started to question myself because you're gender studies, you know, trans activist kind of guy. You know what it is right now. And so what I'm saying is the fact that we're agreeing is what's killing you because you realize you are more like me than you want to believe that you are. Where's my Italian lady?

Where is it? Go ahead. I want to hear this take because I'm with you so far. Let's see if you lose me. Let's see where you lose me. Go ahead. I think we have lost all dress standards. It's true.

And I'm not telling you that I'm like the best at it and I do the best. We're headed downhill fast and it's not good. And so I'm with Stern on this. little bit. And it just keeps getting worse. And I think it's one of those things that's going to hit terminal velocity. It's just going to keep getting worse. The way people dress at airports, kids' style, it's not that good. You know, it's really not that good. I have teenagers. I think I cared more about style as a high schooler than either of my sons ever have. And I wonder why that is sometimes. And, and, you know, my kids go to a private school and, like, I see them,

they're starting to wear my older son khakis and a what do you call it like a golf shirt and part of me is like oh you're getting kind of fancy like oh you're looking like a little like you're getting ready to go golf but the other part of me is like no wait a minute you should be getting to start to dress like to dress and I just am afraid all this generation is they keep coming into the workplace we're just going to keep going down and we're going to be wearing pajama pants at the workplace so when when I do when I do Zoom court and the entire time we were doing Zoom court going back to COVID. If I'm on Zoom court, I am full suit. And the reason I'm full suit is because I think there's a mentality, at least for me, that that is the uniform, that is the respect you show

the court. It's the respect you show your client. That business up top, party down below the thing. I never did that because I think also mentally for me, the preparation for court and getting ready, I find that you have to have that, even on Zoom. I think you have to know where you are and you fit the decorum of where you are. And I agree with Stern. The only thing he loses me with is the men and women thing. It's got to be straight across the board

and it's just got to be an office atmosphere and an office environment of, look, this is a professional place. Okay, I don't want you coming here feeling too casual because then maybe you're going to take your job a little, too casual. So I'm, I got to tell you, I'm with them on that. Yeah. And I, so the men, women thing, before you jump in, Patrick, the men, women thing. Okay, here's my thing. I don't think men and women have to have the same standards. We dress differently. And therefore, when we dress differently, we're going to, the standards won't always look the same. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So, like I said it the other day, I'm out on shorts in the workplace. I'm out on that. I saw some story they're starting to embrace shorts in the workplace. No, no shorts in the workplace. No, no shorts the workplace. But I can't see a scenario where dudes should be able to wear sneakers, but women should not. I can't see that. Like sneakers are sneakers. And we did this thing where we started wearing sneakers with, I also hate myself for saying sneakers. I should be saying tennis shoes. This is either me becoming Italian in New Jersey again, or this is the monoculture. We don't call them sneakers in the South. They're tennis shoes.

We did this thing. We did this thing where we... It's all rubber sold. It's like Coca-Cola. Sneakers are becoming the word. You know what I mean? Like chapstick or Kleenex. Although it's not a brand, actually.

So it's not like those things. But we did the tennis shoes with the suit thing. And I think we can look back on it as a guy who even did it when he was at ESPN, assimilating, probably. it wasn't right. It's not a good look. It's not a good look. So I think, yeah, I don't see a world where dudes should be able to wear sneakers, but women cannot. But there's also different level of sneakers, too. There's, you know, you're wearing, what is it, the Chuck Taylor's versus, you know, you're wearing Balenciaga or something high in. There's different levels of that

stuff. And even what you guys were doing at ESPN, I mean, there were like Bruno Malley, you know, type of tennis shoes. It wasn't like you guys are going there and, you know, Mizuno's like you're getting ready to run a marathon, you know, or Brooks or whatever. It's, you know, it was, they were higher end. It wasn't like it looked like they were literally sneakers, you know, that you go to the gym in. That didn't offend me, but I, you know, I agree. There should be, and listen, there were women that were, what is it, like the long dresses and the sneakers and that's a look. And I'm not offended by that at all. I think that looks great. Right. Yeah, I've seen that. And it looks great. Being rough for a look. Yeah, I think it'd just be

straight across the board. A certain, again, just look presentable for work. You know, I know I have the image in my head of what he's talking about, which is just you're there in like, ugg slippers, a hoodie. You know, it's kind of like Federman. When Federman shows up, looking the way he does, I'm like, I'm sorry, that's disrespectful to the job. It doesn't look like you're taking the job serious. I agree. The sneakers thing, you know what I bet one of the problems was? It's young men and young women, but the whole beat-up white sneaker look became the trend like you don't ever clean them.

They look awful. They look totally beat to hell. The laces are torn up. It's a terrible look. I can just picture all these 19, 20-year-olds wearing some. Air Force One's low tops that were once white and are now look like they got drugged through the subway. Yeah. No, I think, listen, we're on the same page with this one. I can't believe he's more jersey than he thinks this is great.

Are you kidding me? We're going to have to come up with a nice Italian nickname for him. What would that be? I know. We got to think of something really good, Texas for, like, Will you? All right. So, so really the, the, is the Democrat Socialist of America the whitest political party since what? The Democrats of the 1950s in the South? Like, it's the Democratic Socialist of America is overwhelmingly white. That's pretty wild. The voters. The voters.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the voters. The voters. Yeah. I mean, that's what all the numbers are saying. It's pretty much America since the 80s, any party since the 80s. Yeah.

I mean, it's the 80s? I was joking around about Democrats in the 50s in the South. Are you saying, like, Republicans in the 80s are super white? Demographic-wise, everyone was white. So now that America has become significantly more diverse, it is definitely the most. white since that time when we became more diverse. And educated and downwardly mobile. So I mentioned I interviewed the vice president this morning.

I'm really trying to get him to Austin for Ohio State versus Texas September 12th. He wants to come. He doesn't know if he can make it. But I did ask him this. Still 300,000 people voted for Francesca Hong in Wisconsin for governor. And it's easy. to just laugh at them and to make fun of them. But I said, what would you say to young people?

Are you going to be proud of me for this, Patrick? I said, what would you say to young people who say I did everything America told me to do? I got my education. I went and got a job. I tried to buy a house, and I can't afford the life of my parents. And I asked him his answer to that, Patrick. Now, he gave me an answer, and his answer was, we can't do the thing the Republicans have done for the past half century.

We can't just talk about the ideology of the free market. We're going to, and I don't know. I don't know how much economic populism he is prepared to embrace. But he definitely said, we're going to have to meet them on this. But I started thinking about this half of the interview. And the issue is this. It's that downwardly mobile, highly educated white group that we're largely talking about, not exclusively, but largely.

Can we agree that very few people in America? fit any traditional definition of poverty? Wait, say that again. Can we agree on what? Very few people in America fit any traditional definition of poverty. I don't know. I need to see the numbers on that. I don't know that we can...

Caloric intake, caloric intake, access to technology, housing, available, health. By any historical metric, including America, dating back, decades, but also comparing itself to the rest of the globe. The poorest, on average, the poorest among us are some of the richest to ever be here. Not compared to the rest of America, I'm saying by any traditional definition of poverty. I disagree on health immediately, because I think we're one of the more unhealthier countries in terms of obesity and all of that. I think the numbers bear that out. If somebody wants to correct me and tell me I'm wrong by all means. But doesn't that, Vince, in and of itself, defeat the poverty line? If obesity is your problem?

The cheapest food is the worst food. So these people, unfortunately, are buying. But, dude. Yeah. Poverty throughout human history has been defined by a caloric deficit. Incapability of getting the food you need, the calories you need to survive. And now it's, oh, the high calorie stuff, maybe nutrient poor, but high calorie stuff is accessible. Right.

Is the most affordable. The other thing here, will, though, is how many people. are living in debt. How many people are living in credit card debt? So, you know, that's the big problem. How many people are living in student loan debt? So, you know, to tell me, well, they're spending money and they're having access to think, well, a lot of people spend money they don't have. You know, how many people are, that's the other thing, are spending money they just don't have. But what I'm saying is, so Gerard Baker wrote this in the Wall Street Journal the other day. Socialism is the wrong answer, but it doesn't negate the question. The question is real.

with capitalism and wealth growth, you get, as a byproduct, inequality. So inequality is real. What I'm saying is poverty is not as real. And that doesn't mean poverty doesn't exist. It does exist. But inequality is the thing that causes a lack of social cohesion. So when one group, for example, a downwardly mobile, highly educated white voter is turning to socialism, they're not turning to it because of poverty. They're turning to it because of

inequality. And inequality is a byproduct of capitalism. And I don't mean that this sounds like I'm making it pejorative. You're really talking about the difference between envy and survival. And I'm not dismissing envy is a thing that affects human beings. Inequality affects human beings and you have to learn how to address it. But when I asked the vice president that and we deal with that, there are real problems. There are real problems. But that's the one that is driving voters to socialism. All right. And here's my problem maybe with Vance's answer or maybe with the rights answer to this. I think the argument should be more about that our country, what's our federal budget spent, 50, 55 percent on social programs.

and all types of things that would be deemed socialism. I think the problem with the argument is, the money is already going there. And what the Democrats say and the DSA people say is, look, you don't want people to have health care, what you don't want free education, what you want, and all of those things morally sound right and sound great, and they're good things.

Here's the problem. The money, 55% of the money has been going there anyway, the problem isn't wanting those things or those things aren't good. The problem is you don't know how to do those things because you haven't been able to do it in any of the states that you've had a monopoly over for years. California, New Jersey, New York. So show me that you know how to do it. Oh, the second ranked state. Oh, the second ranked state. Number two, baby. That, but you know what I'm saying, Will, the problem isn't selling me on it as a good idea. The problem is, the problem is, is you don't know how to pull off the idea. So when everyone says, look, the post of... And at some point, by the way, Vince, that reveals it's a bad idea. If nobody can pull off the idea, right? And it keeps failing either because of incompetence or because of the nature of humanity, which is, yes.

The corruption builds into the government. And they end up helping themselves. Right. So whether or not it's the U.K. or the USSR, whether it's Cuba or Venezuela, whether it's Cuba or Venezuela, at some point, you've got to stop saying, it's just never been done right. Maybe it's the idea itself that's bad. It's not the idea that's bad. It's getting the idea done.

And listen, for all of the people that are yelling about this, Bernie Sanders, AOC, why have you never brought Medicare for all to a floor vote? Because you don't have the courage of your convictions to point out the people that aren't going to vote for it and are going to vote for it. And I think a part of you knows that you can't. accomplish it because it is a pie in the sky thing that can't be done because of all of the other problems with these things and when they say oh look at the post office yeah and look at what's happening with the post office FedEx UPS do it better look at Social Security yeah that's right

that's why Vanguard Black Rock State Street all do it so again is it's not that the program is in a good program it's not that the programs aren't good ideas it's if you don't have government officials that know how to spend the money the right way and actually put the money into programs and make them work, well, what good is it? How much more money do you need? Fifty-five percent of the budget? So when it's 70 percent, what are you telling me? Well, that'll make it work. So if we tax the billionaires more, well, now we have enough money to make it work. No, you don't know how to pull it off. Never. Right. You don't know how to pull it. You've shown me you don't know how to do it. So I think that's what the Republicans should point to is, look, all of these places where you do have these programs, show me you're doing it right, and I'll show you, you know, what is it? Minnesota with the fraud, New York with the fraud, California with the fraud. There's your problem. Right.

Coming up, Peyton Pops, Houston is the quarterback for Evangelical Christian Academy, an LSU commit and the star of God Family Football in Fox Nation. He's next on Will King Country. And honestly, back to this can bring us full circle, back to the state rankings, if you did that. Okay, we agree. We all want these outcomes. Here's some outcomes that we want. Yes. You keep telling me that the way to get to these outcomes is by me giving you more money and power, right? And you keep getting your chance.

And this is probably, if it's not number one, this is a top three thing about America. the idea that the states were little laboratories of democracy. And you keep telling me. And so you've got your examples, whatever you just, you rattled off, Vince, New Jersey, New York, California. And you failed. You keep failing and you keep saying, why, just need more. Right.

More money, more taxes, more power. Versus the little laboratories of democracy that went the other way, like Texas. And what are the outcomes there as comparative, right? What is the lifestyle? What is the, even the social services? And if it is so bad, ultimately, then why do people keep moving from your place to my place? Right. And the problem. Why does that keep happening? And the problem, by the way, I'll give you this. It ain't the weather in Texas. It ain't the weather.

It's not the weather in Florida either. And see, but this is the problem that the Republicans get into is they try to have these moral arguments with these things. And don't get into the moral aspects of it because that's how the DSA is getting paid. See, they don't want you to have a free education. and they don't want you to have health care. They don't want you to have all of these great things. And it's like, no, no, no, no. We don't have a problem with the things that you're saying that are good for people and they should have access to. That's not the problem with it.

The problem is the way you allocated, the way you haven't solved homelessness and you keep getting money for it and it's getting worse. It's getting worse. So what are you doing with the money you are getting? That's what I want to see. I want to see this accounting and I want to see what you're doing. But no one ever calls them on that. Instead, it becomes, oh, you want to give everybody free stuff.

Stop doing the free stuff argument on the right because you're going to, morally you lose that battle. Say, show me the money you've gotten and where it's gone. That's the argument that people on the right should be having. I like it. He's really doing well today. Oh, man. This is a better show. Crushing this show.

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I happen to be one of those Americans. I like sunsets closer to 8 p.m. than 4 p.m. And now President Donald Trump is encouraging the United States Senate to move to a permanent daylight savings time. That is getting pushback from one corner that happens to be a friend of the program. That's Brownstone Institute's Jeffrey Tucker. Jeffrey Tucker has responded to the president and said this is exactly wrong. Time is not random. And the closest thing to true sun time, in other words, the sundial.

You set up a sundial, you see high noon, is standard time. That's what we should be moving to is permanent standard time. He makes the argument that daylight savings time is an invention, a bit. a gimmick brought in in America, and it's been tried and failed. So we're going to open that up as well to Vince August. And our next guest, who is Peyton Pops Houston. Pops is the quarterback for Evangelist Christian Academy, the school that has been featured for several seasons now,

on Fox Nation's God, Family, and Football. The new season of God Family Football is available now on Fox Nation. And, by the way, Pops is one of the top high school quarterbacks in the country, a top 100 national prospect, four stars. And he's announced this. We're sad to say here at Wilcane Country, he's going to be an LSU tiger. And I guess that's forgivable, Pops, because you're a Louisiana boy. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. Glad to have you.

Let's get this out of way right away, okay? because Will is heartbroken. Other than having a legit chance at winning a national championship, what other reason did you pick LSU over Texas? LSU has the VR system. Yeah, LSU has the VR system. So even if I don't go in and start my first year, I'll have a chance to develop off the field.

That's already two reasons, Will. Go ahead. Wait, wait, wait, Pops. What's the VR system? The VR system is like, It's really you just put on like a VR, and it gives you a real gameist like defense. You can adjust the height of the people, the speed of the game. So being able to develop your brain to process things a little bit faster,

being able to process things faster, of course, and then get used to different stadiums. They put different play calls. You get play calls in, and you pretty much get the whole offense and different defenses you see to help. Wow. Wait, wait. So you're talking about virtual.

reality pops. Yeah. They're going to put you, hold on, Vince, I'm super curious about this. So have you already done this? Do you have that, is that a real rare thing that LSU has it? The other colleges not have it? Yeah, I think only one college has it, and that's Penn State. Others are trying to get it, but right now, LSU's and Penn State it only wants to have it.

Wow. Well, this is actually something that Jayden Daniels did. Like, it was very important to his development. Yeah. I've seen the story of Jaden Daniels. And it's not just football. I've seen other sports do this as well. It makes a ton of sense.

Like, why are we not training with this all the time? Because one of the things I was going to ask you, Pops, is, you look, you're a top 100 high school football prospect. Any more, I am a Longhorn fan, for the record. Vince is right. And the thing that Arch Manning has done, which he waited two years, really, until he got his shot, is becoming more and more rare. Guys don't want to wait. they enter the portal if they're not on track to be starting really honestly by their second year so do you do you see your commitment to lSU is something you can say well because of this system

or because i'm here and i want to be developed over a longer period of time at baton Rouge uh yeah um partially because a lot of reason i chose lsu is through prayer um it took a lot of praying to make this decision. And then the school itself, the brand that LSU brings is huge. And then I'm a hometown kid, so you got those plus sides. And then the VR system, my goal, since I was a kid, was to be in the Hall of Fame. And then college is just the next step that I got to make. So perform at college being able to be prepared there to go to the NFL, and then it takes off from there. So the VR system had a huge help, just knowing that things change. Things may not go. my way just making sure I having a way to make my crap better as long as I'm not playing on

Saturday nights or not getting as many reps at practice I can go back and go to the VR room and get my reps that way. Yeah, wow. That's awesome, man. Not to mention, let's be honest. You also get to wear those amazing purple and gold uniforms as opposed to that Texas pumpkin spice latte brown thing that they wear, right? Whatever that is. Come on, how much bag it is that uniform compared to that Texas thing. It's nice. It's nice. Oh, God.

What is going on here? Pops, you're an impressive kid. I can tell within four or five minutes of talking to you. I've talked to your coach on several occasions, Denny Duran. What is this going on there, Evangelist Christian, that is special? Something's clearly special, and it's highlighted in God family football. What is it that is helping to create such good young men? The faith aspect. So our first block is Bible. We got to be up to school at seven and we start

our mornings off with the word of God. We praise and worship and then we hear a message from Uncle Irva, our youth advisor. And then from that point, since I've been in Evangelion, Pasadena has taught us that it's bigger than football. And we've got to build our faith to become better men. Eventually football has to come to an end. It's how you carry yourself off the field that lead people to Christ. luckily for me I have the opportunity to continue to play football so I use football as my form of worship and glorify him and then off the field uh plan on continuing doing the same thing serious question how did you if I can go ahead Vince how do you balance and I know it's hard expectation as an athlete versus gratitude as a Christian is there like a balance that you have

to draw with yourself in terms of when you're playing and you know what to know this is what I have to achieve and at the same time being grateful and where you are at that moment like is that a balance thing for you that's hard the human ego is hard just knowing that the talents God has blessed you with it is really not yours but at the same time you go out there on Friday night and I'm still struggling with it because at times it's like all right I'm this gut I'm like that and then it's it's not you um everything that I do right now is not because of the things that I've done. It's because God has implanted them in me, and he trusts me with those talents. So I'm still trying to figure out that balance, and working

hard to get it right. Wow. How did you get the name Pops? So my parents told me I have an old soul when I was younger, so they started calling me POP. I think there's a little bit more to it, but they haven't really told me, so I got to dig deeper into that, but it's because I have an old soul, apparently. Well, how do you exhibit an old soul? I get it. I get it. I mean, obviously, honestly, we see some wisdom on display right here.

How old are you? 17 or 18? 17. Yeah, a little bit of, what do you call it, preternatural wisdom here at 17. But what were you doing that told them you have an old soul? Probably the songs that I would listen to, the things I would do. I don't think I have an old soul. I think I have a very young story.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, what songs? What songs? A little bit of Michael Jackson, some of the radio songs that they used to play back then. 80s music, baby. I love this kid. Are you kidding me? I was thinking when he said that, Vince, my mind was going further back. I was like, oh, no, no, further.

And then he said Michael Jackson. I'm like, oh, yeah, that is old. That is old. It's 80s. I love this kid. You kidding me? What's the best Michael Jackson song, Pops? A song I used to pregame was Rock with You.

Wow. So that's my own way back. Really? That's my favorite one. What's that off the wall, I think? Right? Off the off the wall album? Is that off the wall?

I think so. Yeah, it is. That is early Michael Jackson. Yeah. That's before, yeah, it's before thrill of all of that, yeah. Wow. Impressive. And his beautiful family is right outside the studio.

Billy Jean holds up. Yeah. Billy Jean is a top fiver and stays a top fiver. I just love that. It's 80s music. Are you kidding of me? I love it. You can't get better than this kid right now.

Man, Texas is just... In this season, Pop's God Family Football. Pat, check that wool thing. I think Texas just dropped down to 40 on that chart that we had. That's right. Wait, what was Louisiana? Let's double check. What was Louisiana?

Louisiana. Louisiana came in at number 49, unfortunately. Not after this young man goes up there. This is going to be, yeah, top 10. By the way, who's 50th? Who's last if Louisiana's 49? I can't find 50 on the map.

Oh, it looks like New Mexico. Yeah. Oh, yeah, New Mexico came in at 50. I'm telling you. Check that number again tomorrow. Watch Louisiana stock go way up. I'm buying in. I like both of the.

I like both. States. I like them both. Pops, God Family Football, this new season, one of the episodes, I believe it's episode two, focuses on the choice that you made and you just shared with us to go to LSU. What else is in this season? What happened? It's a reflection of last year's football team. What were the storylines that carried you guys through last season? I think one of them is being able to finish strong, so we did a lot of conditioning, a lot of extra work outside of practice to get better. And the brotherhood, we had. had, I think throughout the season you can see, or the episodes, you can see how much we jailed

together. I used to take some of the guys out each position group to a place called Hopdottie to go eat after or before games. And that happened almost every week. The receiver group came no matter what, even if they weren't the part of the position groups. But just seeing the bond we had, it was different for sure. Hopdottie, the burger place? Yes, yes, sir. Yeah, I know it. I know All right, look at this. I think this is last season. So, Peyton, you threw in one game for 817 yards and eight touchdowns. How in the world do you throw for 817 yards in one game?

How many pass attempts is that? I think we threw the ball 68 times that game. Yeah. How many completions? 53 completions. Wow. 53 completions. Hold on, somebody do the math for me.

53 completions, 800 yards. What is that averaging out per completion? About 18 yards of pass, right? Something like that. It was a lot. Yeah. Wow. What happened?

Be honest, were they really bad? Or was the, were you see in the field? Like when Jordan said that the hoop looked like a swimming pool, you just couldn't miss? Like, what was going on? Yeah, it was more so what Jordan said about the swimming pool. But that whole week of practice. we were just focused on the next play. So every time we score, we can go back to the sideline, watch film,

get details about how the defense was playing and detect that defense. So I think every drive either was four plays or less. We were going at them. And it was completely focused on our end, just going back and fixing the minor things every time we scored and perfecting it that way. Now, were you guys undefeated? No, we had, I think we won a game so far.

We were like one in four, one and five. And we actually needed to win this game to have at least a for sure shot to make it to the playoffs. And we ended up losing 77 to 76. All right. Now as a young person. In that game. Yeah, in that game. Now, as a young person.

Yeah, overtime loss. Explain this to other people that are out there, especially young people watching, in terms of what you learn from a win versus what you learn from a loss. Honestly, there's not much you can learn. from a win. You're on such a high that you were like, yeah, we played a good game. Of course, if the wind's a sloppy win, you got the mental things to fix, the self-inflicted wounds. But you learn a lot more from losses. You figure out what you're weak at, what team seeing you, and what you don't see in yourself that the team's brought out in the light. So you get to

go back and fix those on the drawing board. Yeah. All right. Well, you can get all these storylines, including the 800-yard game and his commitment to LSU, on the new season of God family football. It's available right now on Fox Nation. Before we go, I will get pops in on this, too, Vince. I set it up before we begin this conversation. Daylight savings time. President Trump wants the Senate to pass it and make it permanent. Others are saying no, standard time should be permanent. Or do we keep it the way it is and switch it up during the year? I feel like the floor everything has been pretty good. I don't know if the timing really affects much that I got going on.

But everything's pretty, pretty smooth right now. But you want to play on the lights. Yeah, I want to play under lights. You want it dark early. You want to play on the lights. No doubt. You want those lights shining on the field. No doubt.

Yeah. But you don't want to practice in the dark. So you want daylight, you know, until a little later. You don't be, you games in the dark practice in the light. So did you know this, Vince? I didn't know this. You're so old, Vince. You may remember this. I probably do.

In 1974, they actually tried this, making daylight savings time permanent. Richard Nixon tried it. And it only lasted like 18 months. It was bad news. They said... It threw off my cicadian rhythm that year. I remember that. It actually threw off my circadian rhythms.

Yeah. I had a rough kindergarten because of that. Are you serious? Yeah. threw off my old kin there, my color. my coloring was off, everything was off that year. I remember, blocks were not fun for me. That daylight savings time threw me.

Yeah. In northern cities like Detroit, Indianapolis, Minneapolis, and Seattle, the sun didn't rise until around 9 a.m. Everybody was getting up in the dark and going to work and to school in the dark. So, this is probably you, commuter trains in New Jersey were delayed. School children were missing their free breakfast. Some workers walk to the subways in fear because of the darkness. It felt strange, they said.

So there you are, you northerners, the head of the country, had to ruin it for everybody. We just want a later sunset, and you guys got all bent out of shape because you had to walk to the subway in the dark. Very stressful for a kid going to kindergarten. My espresso time was off in the morning. I had a knockback that espresso before I got there. Dinner time is all thrown off, especially for an Italian. We start dinner on a Sunday at two of. o'clock. If the sun isn't right and that sauce doesn't cook right way, well, you don't understand

the struggles I went through that got me here. Yeah, yeah, that's daylight savings morning. Daylight saving times morning. All right, let us know what you think. Head into the comments section at YouTube and Facebook. We'll listen to we'd love to hear from you. Daylight savings time year-round, standard time year-round. Let's not even give it an option of keep it. Yeah, give that an option, Patrick. Keep it how it is. Peyton Pops Henderson. He is on the new season of God. Family Football. It's up at Fox Nation. Pops, thanks for hanging out with us here today. It's been good to get to know you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Vince August, thanks for hanging out, as always. We appreciate his presence,

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